Speaker 1: I'm canceling myself. I'm canceling Rewives. So in the beginning,
Speaker 1: the reason I did Rewives was Paul said to me,
Speaker 1: someone's going to do this, and don't they want to
Speaker 1: hear from the Tom Brady of housewives? Wouldn't people want
Speaker 1: to hear your perspective? By no means would I ever
Speaker 1: compare myself to the goat Tom Brady. But Paul was
Speaker 1: being kind, and because I'm a businesswoman, and it seemed
Speaker 1: like a good piece of business, because right, I'd be
Speaker 1: great to do that. I heart loved it. And then
Speaker 1: I thought of having interesting people talk about the Housewives
Speaker 1: episodes because it would just be a vehicle. It would
Speaker 1: just be talking about infidelity or marriage or children or
Speaker 1: arguments or different cities, you know, and I really hadn't
Speaker 1: seen most of the cities years ago. When it first started.
Speaker 1: I watched Atlanta and I used to be entertained by it,
Speaker 1: but I never really watched and I didn't even watch
Speaker 1: New York except for the one episode i'd be sent
Speaker 1: every week before I got it. So when I started
Speaker 1: to do Rewives, it was like a new show to me.
Speaker 1: It was watching something new that I had never really seen.
Speaker 1: And I liked the guests and talking about something different,
Speaker 1: not just interviewing them about themselves, but talking to them
Speaker 1: about these plotlines. But as it went along, I started
Speaker 1: seeing things differently then I used to see them like
Speaker 1: I just I'm a older wiser, I'm a mother, I
Speaker 1: am at a different point in my life. I'm in
Speaker 1: my fifties. I value integrity and health over making it.
Speaker 1: I joined The Housewife so long ago, more than fifteen
Speaker 1: years ago, and it seemed like an adventure. I was
Speaker 1: so broke, and it just seemed like something interesting, and
Speaker 1: it was. I mean, Jill and I were iconic, and
Speaker 1: it was fun. We didn't even know we were doing
Speaker 1: like we were doing our own makeup, we were doing
Speaker 1: our own glam, we were in our own clothes. You know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't what it is now. It wasn't the circus
Speaker 1: it is now. But all and also it's just become
Speaker 1: so toxic now, and it's got such a bad stain
Speaker 1: and reputation on it. Overall, it's gotten embarrassing. And so
Speaker 1: you guys are right when you've said, why are you
Speaker 1: still talking about it? If you left? It's a great question.
Speaker 1: And I never really really felt great about doing it. Jill,
Speaker 1: my publicist, hated that I was doing it. She said,
Speaker 1: We've come so far to separate you from that, and
Speaker 1: now you're walking back into it. And I thought it's
Speaker 1: different because I am talking to different interesting people. She
Speaker 1: never really loved it, to be fair, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if I ever really loved it to be fair. Also,
Speaker 1: I always felt a little cringe, respectfully, and I'm now
Speaker 1: talking about something that I don't even want to talk about,
Speaker 1: just for this show wasn't really a natural interest. And
Speaker 1: as of late there has been so much dirt and
Speaker 1: garbage and crap, like a dark cloud over this space,
Speaker 1: this medium, this vehicle and entertainment. It just feels dirty.
Speaker 1: It always felt somewhat dirty, it got dirtier than it
Speaker 1: got toxic, and now it's the worst version of a
Speaker 1: toxic dumpster fire. And I don't want to be associated
Speaker 1: with it in any way, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about it. And I don't really even want to
Speaker 1: have people on who are currently on it unless we're
Speaker 1: talking about their kids or their motherhood or something else.
Speaker 1: I just don't need to trash it. I just don't
Speaker 1: want to be associated with it, and I want to
Speaker 1: work on shows and projects that my daughter would be
Speaker 1: proud of, that are a good role model for her,
Speaker 1: that are a good example for her and for other women.
Speaker 1: And this is not holier than now. This is not
Speaker 1: being a hater. You know, it's me. I'm the problem.
Speaker 1: It's me. I was dead center in it. I've done
Speaker 1: things on reality television that I'm not proud of, and
Speaker 1: I don't want to promote that. And I just don't
Speaker 1: think it's supportive of other women. I just don't think
Speaker 1: it's I think it's about tearing women down. We can
Speaker 1: wrap it in bows and we can layer it in frosting,
Speaker 1: but no matter what, it's a franchise that has really
Speaker 1: thrived on women tearing women down, and I just don't
Speaker 1: want to do it anymore. And it has devolved and
Speaker 1: it is different than when I started. It was a
Speaker 1: different show then. And also I want to say this,
Speaker 1: it's really important because since meeting many of the women
Speaker 1: on these shows after they've left, they seem like different women.
Speaker 1: I relate to them differently. Yes, we're all a little
Speaker 1: crazy and flawed, and that environment wants people to argue
Speaker 1: and wants the drama, doesn't want the individual to win,
Speaker 1: and whether it's Luanne or Dorried or Kelly or Leah
Speaker 1: or Caroline or Phaedra or Candy or Tamra or anyone,
Speaker 1: I don't want those women to fail. And I've liked
Speaker 1: most of them when i've met them outside of that environment.
Speaker 1: It's only that environment that has pitted any of us
Speaker 1: against each other. Because I could tell you if I
Speaker 1: met Leah Black or Vicky or Cynthia Bailey or Kim
Speaker 1: Zolziak or Nini or anyone at a cocktail party or
Speaker 1: at the gym or in any other environment, I'm sure
Speaker 1: i'd really like them a lot. It's this space that
Speaker 1: has been terrible for women, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: be fraudulent and continuing to perpetuate that. When I left Housewives,
Speaker 1: I was choosing integrity my daughter. I'm being a good
Speaker 1: example over money, and it's the same thing now. I
Speaker 1: can't choose business or money over morality and integrity. And
Speaker 1: I'm going to replace the show with something fun and
Speaker 1: interesting and something that I would be proud to include
Speaker 1: my daughter and I would be proud for her to
Speaker 1: listen to, and that I think is a good example
Speaker 1: for her, and hopefully empowering and inspiring and interesting to women.
Speaker 1: I'm not trashing anyone. I'm not better than anything. This
Speaker 1: show just doesn't reflect where I am in my life
Speaker 1: and what I want to be discussing and promoting. I
Speaker 1: called iHeart today and said I don't want to do
Speaker 1: this anymore. I don't want to do this show anymore,
Speaker 1: and they said, amazing, Let's do one of the other
Speaker 1: shows you've wanted to do. So I really am grateful
Speaker 1: to iHeart for this platform where if I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about it, they don't want to air it.
Speaker 1: If I'm not passionate about it or it's not important
Speaker 1: to me, they don't want to do it. So I'm really,
Speaker 1: really lucky to have such an amazing partner that I
Speaker 1: can call ten minutes ago and say I don't want
Speaker 1: to do this anymore, and they could say, no problem,
Speaker 1: let's do that other good idea you had. So thank
Speaker 1: you to iHeart, iHeart, iHeart. Don't worry. You can still
Speaker 1: listen to my rants and my amazing interviews on Just
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Speaker 1: and you girls, and I'm so grateful for your listenership.
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