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Speaker 1: rating and comment, where's adding? And what's appening? What's happening?

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Speaker 1: It's another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast tonight. Man,

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Speaker 1: I got a special co host. I ain't gonna say it,

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Speaker 1: guess because he a co host night. We about to

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Speaker 1: chop up a whole bunch of shit, my boy, king crook.

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Speaker 1: What's happening, Thoug going on with it?

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Speaker 2: What's going on with Against the Chronicles?

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Speaker 1: Man? You know eight doing me so bad? Man? He

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Speaker 1: always got something going on. Last minute? What are you

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Speaker 1: in the booth right now? What? Man? I ain't no

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Speaker 1: telling what a got going on? Man, But we're gonna

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Speaker 1: keep the show going on the road. Man, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: keep the show going. Man. What's up with your president? Man?

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Speaker 2: Which one the dead one's in the bank account?

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Speaker 1: Or what what you talking? About. Man. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about? Man, the Orange man are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: You're talking about Donnie Yo Donald Man. Donald's a gangster man,

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Speaker 1: My boy, Man, he went over the Venezuela. Man, it's

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Speaker 1: next stay president and his wife about they up about

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Speaker 1: they up about the office?

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Speaker 3: Man, hey dog? And you know what's so cold? That

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Speaker 3: man was rocking a Nike Tech sweatshuit.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: He came out of there and then he came out

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Speaker 3: of there dripping with Nike from head to toe. They

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Speaker 3: had they had the boy himed up. I felt bad

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Speaker 3: for the boy. I don't know the politics on that.

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Speaker 3: You know, whenever I see somebody, you know, something like

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Speaker 3: this happened. The first thing I started thinking about is

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Speaker 3: Iraq and the weapons of mass destruction that they were

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Speaker 3: supposed to have, and uh, you know, going over there

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Speaker 3: for resources in oil and things of that nature. You know,

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Speaker 3: I feel like we in the era of conquest.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what it is. Man, this is for sure

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Speaker 1: all about the oil man. He has a I guess

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Speaker 1: he's been making this big picture all the oil companies man,

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Speaker 1: the Exxon chef run and all of them to go

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Speaker 1: over there. And rebuild their infrastructure. And also, dude, that's

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Speaker 1: been laying threat.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's been threatening, not ringing in Greenland, he said,

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Speaker 3: he said, you say he's going to get Greenland.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I saw that.

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Speaker 3: I really feel like I feel like Donnie is one

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Speaker 3: of them dudes, man that understands how to go down

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Speaker 3: into history books. And I think that's a big desire

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Speaker 3: when it's all over.

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Speaker 1: And because if you notice dog.

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Speaker 3: When you when you go back and you look in

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Speaker 3: the books, a lot of the people who stood out

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Speaker 3: were either you know, they stood out for being very

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Speaker 3: proud that I've been changing the world impact in the world,

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Speaker 3: that they stood out for being very negative, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: But when you look at the pictures and the old

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Speaker 3: documentaries of all these different iconic figures, you can see

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Speaker 3: a pattern of how Trump carries itself. He will get

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Speaker 3: like when he wanted to have that big military parade

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Speaker 3: that was a show of power, but at the same time,

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Speaker 3: he knew that if he captured that moment on video

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Speaker 3: you show the whole.

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Speaker 1: Huh, without a doubt, he does understand how to put

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Speaker 3: Put on that show, capture a moment in time, and

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Speaker 3: I feel like he wants to be immortalized, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think he's.

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Speaker 1: Looking a century into the future. I hope not, man,

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Speaker 1: I hope he's not doing that at our expense, because

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this, Venezuela does have allies. Yeah, well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean shit, everybody that he bombing has a

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Speaker 1: It's real talk, man. So what the other end, you

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Speaker 1: other end, you have to have to think about China, man.

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Speaker 1: I heard that China was occupied. You know, they had

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Speaker 1: or it could just be just good old fashioned gangsterism.

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Speaker 3: It could be gangsterism. But I think I think you're right.

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Speaker 3: Like they got the bricks thing going on, you know,

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Speaker 3: everything threatens the US dollars, US dollar going down. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: we know, man, they playing, they playing game. They playing

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Speaker 3: gangster games on a global on a global scale. That's

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Speaker 3: take over their block. That's all you do, you feel me,

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Speaker 3: that's all he's doing. But what happens when somebody hit

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Speaker 1: And that's the whole thing. You know.

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Speaker 3: I hate to say a rest the peace to everybody,

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Speaker 3: and we could say that. You know, they say it's

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Speaker 3: a conspiracy, and they you know, they have a lot

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Speaker 3: of conspiracy theories surrounding this particular event. But let's just

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Speaker 3: say it was just good old fashioned get back the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot going on, man, It's a whole

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Speaker 1: lot going on. Man, I'm gonna bring it back to

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Speaker 1: the home front.

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Speaker 3: Huh.

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Speaker 1: Last week the homie Glasses had all this stuff going

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Speaker 1: on with Aidan Ross. Did you see that. I saw

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Speaker 1: some of it. Now, he was pretty much going in

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Speaker 1: on eight man for the district. You know, I guess

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Speaker 1: Aidan Ross was disrespecting DOCI and glasses. Didn't like the

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Speaker 1: idea of a little white guy calling them system out

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Speaker 1: her name. You feel me, I feel you, and I

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Speaker 1: feel all that man. I definitely feel all that man.

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Speaker 1: But this is what I will say about all that. Man.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I love hip hop, man. I love music,

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Speaker 1: and what I'm about to say, I don't want nobody

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Speaker 1: to be offended by it. But before we start checking

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Speaker 1: other people, man about how they treat our women, we

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Speaker 1: When you talk about hip hop music, man, hip hop

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Speaker 1: music has historically man referred to his sisters as bitches, hoes, tramps, sluts,

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Speaker 1: to be hypocritical at this juncture. Man. Let's junction the game.

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Speaker 3: But before I tap in on that, let me ask

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Speaker 3: you a question. Can this your house, just the house

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Speaker 3: against the chronicles? Can I smoke it there or no?

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Speaker 1: Now do your thing?

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Speaker 3: What being hee sayd We could smoke in here, throw

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Speaker 3: some choke in the air, you know, do your thing, man,

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Speaker 3: because I know you, I know you the light up

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Speaker 3: a church here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Man. Now I'm I'm gonna go to row. You

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna just hit a little with a little bit

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Speaker 3: of tou ro. Shout out to my dude, Eddie man Zilla.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He got his own cigar brand.

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Speaker 3: It's called Murder. I'm gonna post about it tomorrow on

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Speaker 3: my on my on my thing, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, now, now, I haven't gotten smoking cigars yet. Man.

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Speaker 1: I tried it one time and got dizzy as hell. Man,

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Speaker 1: Come on in. I smoked the church you at the

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Speaker 3: Man. You probably need to start off with something mild

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Speaker 3: instead of just going straight into the full body cigar.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: But okay, so let's talk to some hip hop because

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Speaker 3: that's what you brought me here for. I'm here with

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Speaker 1: Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: What we're talking about, hey, accountability.

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Speaker 1: Accountability, bro. And that's what I'm saying. You know what,

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Speaker 1: Everything has its time and place, and I'm not going

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Speaker 1: sit up here and say I haven't called I haven't

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Speaker 1: used that word before, right, I think we all have, man,

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Speaker 1: but me being the age I am. Now, it's been

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what they always say that a real

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Speaker 3: gangster rapper evolves into the best conscious rapper as he ages.

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Speaker 3: So people evolved, and I think we gotta give people.

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Speaker 1: Time to do that. So I don't just sit down when.

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Speaker 2: I listen to a rapper. If that rapper is in

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Speaker 1: Well, a lot of far rappers out here, man in

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Speaker 1: You know some of these cats knocking on fitties door.

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Speaker 1: And I think when you get turned to certain age, man,

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. I'm not talking about censoring nobody,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not talking about everybody turning into goodie two

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Speaker 2: Okay, So then this is what I gotta say too.

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Speaker 2: What is hip hop still?

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Speaker 3: Because for lack of a better term, the purest they're

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Speaker 3: gonna say, Oh, that's not hip hop. They gonna say

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Speaker 1: That's not hip hop.

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Speaker 3: They gonna say, don't blame hip hop for talking bad

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Speaker 1: It's not the rappers, rapper rap, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So is it is?

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Speaker 1: Can we I'm asking you?

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Speaker 3: Can we say that's hip hop and hip hop needs

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Speaker 3: to take accountability when these peuris is gonna be like, nah, dog,

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Speaker 3: that ain't hip hop, that's rats.

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Speaker 1: Certainly not. You're right, Brook, you know you're right. Let

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Speaker 1: me clarify my stance, change their direction before week go

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Speaker 1: out there trying to put the check down everybody else. Man,

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Speaker 1: we got to make sure our own house is clean,

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Speaker 1: you feel me. We all got fathers, we all got sisters,

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Speaker 1: we all got spouses, we got you know, we have

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Speaker 1: black women. If you are black man, you got black

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Speaker 1: women that you love. I don't care if you dating

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Speaker 1: somebody outside of your race. You have black women that

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Speaker 1: you love. Yeah, you do, absolutely so.

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Speaker 3: Like when we make songs like Tupac, I want you

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Speaker 3: wonder why they call you a bitch?

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Speaker 1: See that that word, that that bitch word. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What's my favorite word? Too short?

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Speaker 2: What's my favorite word, bitch? Why you gotta say it?

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Speaker 2: Life short?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And then you got a bitch is a bitch ice cube?

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Speaker 2: You're showing me shit I don't want to see because

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Speaker 3: I'm not one that really believes when you know, the

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Speaker 1: Ain't no switching up for me.

436
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:53,719
Speaker 3: So when we dig into the art for him, are

437
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 3: theyt supposed to reflect the times me? And you know,

438
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 3: right now, we could go somewhere on the east side

439
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 3: Long Beach where it's gonna be some young homies out

440
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,719
Speaker 3: there talking exactly how these rap records talk and they

441
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 3: don't rap and they don't rap. So so is there

442
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 3: ever supposed to be a song that reflects that part

443
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 3: of our community?

444
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: Because I feel like I feel like it'll be.

445
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 3: It's not painting the whole entire picture if every song

446
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 3: that came out of it, came out of our community

447
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 3: was positive, just like it ain't painting the whole picture

448
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 3: if every song if we say that our community is

449
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 3: negative because ten songs on the billboard, you know, I

450
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 3: mean a ratchet or toxic or something like that.

451
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I just think the

452
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: whole picture needs to be painted man.

453
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 3: And and uh, you take you gotta show the good

454
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 3: to bad and ugly if you're dealing with art, in

455
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 3: my opinion, you got to show the good.

456
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: To bad and ugly.

457
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: And it's on us and different people to critique that

458
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 3: art because that's what happens. You make the art and

459
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 3: somebody critiques it. You know what, man, And I'll tell

460
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 3: you this, bro. I think when you especially in hip

461
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: hop and rap, man, when you're an artist, you showing

462
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: all fastests of life. Right, You're showing all fastest of life.

463
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 3: Like you got songs about people robbing people crooked, but

464
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 3: it's always in story mode.

465
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: Right.

466
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: It's a level of skill to it. It's a really

467
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: high level of skill.

468
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 3: Right.

469
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying, man, shout out to anybody who

470
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 1: has changed their life man with hip hop, whether they're

471
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: doing gangster rap, hip hop, whatever it is. Right, it's

472
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing, right, because it's all positive at the

473
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: end of the day. Right. I think people are doing

474
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,719
Speaker 1: a lot of what they think people want to hear.

475
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: I think people assume that in order to be popular,

476
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: you have to do a bunch of nonsense, right, yeah,

477
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: because that's what people see right now. I think you know,

478
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: I hear this word algorithm, man, about ninety times a day,

479
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: and I don't think a lot of people really even

480
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: know what the algorithm is is right. You know, an

481
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: algorithm may nothing but a list of prompts and demands. Right.

482
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, I want you to I'm a create

483
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: an algorithm. I can create an algorithm that go out

484
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: and friend twenty new people every fifteen minutes. Right, I

485
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: can you know, I can create an algorithm to go

486
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: and follow Okay, if this page hasn't if this person

487
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: hasn't commented on my page like in the last thirty days,

488
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: I want to delete them after a while. Right, so

489
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: you can create a set of demands. Let's look at

490
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: who who is creating a set of demands behind these

491
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,479
Speaker 1: you know, behind Instagram, behind YouTube. Because I'm not gonna lie.

492
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: It's like you see when you pick up your phone.

493
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm always getting force fed a bunch of bs man stuff.

494
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in seeing. I'm not interested in our

495
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: kids disrespecting their mama. I'm not interested in the people

496
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: robbing places. I'm not interested in seeing brothers and sisters

497
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: getting beat up. I'm not interested in none of that.

498
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: But they assume that that's what we had White Americas

499
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: pretty much programming these things to show that to us.

500
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: They think that's what people want to see us depicted.

501
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: That like us being depicted as fools.

502
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: Well, and that's the whole reason why I can kind

503
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 3: of understand when you know some one of our helder says, well, hey,

504
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: they already think we fools.

505
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: Y'all got to prove them right with the music you

506
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: make it. You know what I'm saying.

507
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,239
Speaker 3: So I get that, But you know, again, on an

508
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 3: individual level, I can't be held accountable for the actions

509
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: of the many.

510
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: True. You know what I'm saying. You know what I mean.

511
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, I believe we come from

512
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 3: a different cloth because we were older than than most

513
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 3: of today's mainstream stars. Even though the older general, the

514
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 3: legacy artists are killing it. Legacy artists are getting there.

515
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: NAS is killing it.

516
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: Nas is like the president of hip hop right now.

517
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: Is like fifty one to fifty two. He liked the

518
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 2: president of hip hop what.

519
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: He did with Mass Appeal in that label and he

520
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 3: released all those legacy acts one after another, Slick Rick Mob,

521
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: Deep Day La Soul, him and DJ Premier dropped one.

522
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like what Naz is doing

523
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 3: with Mass Appeal and what he's doing with the grand

524
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 3: Master's Awards awarding the pioneers of hip hop like grand

525
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 3: Master Cast Rock, Sanshante Rock.

526
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: Kim Kumo d what he's doing that.

527
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 3: Dude is like straight up on some presidential president of

528
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 3: hip hop shit.

529
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: And he's cutting him brothers checks. He's cutting him brothers

530
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 1: and sisters checks. He's cutting checks. Bro.

531
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: I mean, so that's a beautiful thing, man.

532
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: And my point was Nas, if you listen to this,

533
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: so if you watched it or whatever, Man, Homie Crook

534
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: Man going stroke, Homie Crooked one of them chicks.

535
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 3: Man said yeah, give me going, hey, yo, Na's here.

536
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, wavy hair, chipped teeth, we

537
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 3: in this bitch deep.

538
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

539
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: Y'all got to excuse me.

540
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 2: Man. You know I live and breed this hip hop stuff,

541
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 2: so you know it'll come out of me at any time.

542
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: But uh what, man, Let's talk about Nas for a minute. Man,

543
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: h I think Nas man has went through the coldest

544
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: reinvention evert of just doing what he does. It's almost

545
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: like Nas doubled down on his hip hop instead of him,

546
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: because I remember he went through a phase man, was

547
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: you know the whole Shorty owe me for ice phase. Right,

548
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: He's dude trying to figure it out like everybody else.

549
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: But it seemed like Nas doubled down on his hip

550
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 1: hop bro, and he's ducking you right. He doubled all

551
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: the way down. Dog.

552
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: He got a song on this new album with DJ

553
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: Premier called the album is called light Year. He got

554
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 3: a song dedicated to the ground. As far as the

555
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: graffiti artist, Bro.

556
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: When do they get they love as being one of

557
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: the elements of hip hop?

558
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

559
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 3: On a level to where a Hall of Fame MC

560
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 3: is creating music about them and giving them their props.

561
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: That's how hip hop he is. You right, He doubles down.

562
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: He doubles down on it, man.

563
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: You know what.

564
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: I was listening to one of my favorite albums, man.

565
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: One of my favorite NAS albums is the is Stealmatic, right.

566
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: And the song the Rewind song Rewind Yeah, yeah, yeah.

567
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: He is just super creative. Man. I don't think he

568
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: ever get enough. I don't think Nas ever get enough.

569
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: You know, he gets his flowers right, But nobody ever

570
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: talks about how ill Nis he was. Man.

571
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: To me, NAS is probably one of the greatest of

572
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: all time, bro, one of the goats man, and he's

573
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: carrying it in a way that can make us all proud.

574
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: For sure. And I don't care where you're from. I

575
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: don't care if you're in the south east, west coast whatever. Right,

576
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: nas Man is just one of those guys, man, and

577
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: it's like he's really doubled down.

578
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: Man.

579
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: And him being the elder statesman, I would look at

580
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: this dude, he probably I think he a vaned probably

581
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: sometimes man, because he don't look like he in his fifties.

582
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: Man.

583
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, dog, hey, he doing good. But I love it.

584
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: I love it, man, you know.

585
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: And I was at I was at one of the

586
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 3: Grand Master Awards ceremonies in Vegas, and uh, dog, I'm

587
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: sitting there watching Dougie, Fresh.

588
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: Rock, Kim and kum O d get a cipher.

589
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: That's a doe. I'm sitting there.

590
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: Me and Scarface went went for a walk in the

591
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: casino and said, man, let's go find us some cigars.

592
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: Scarface one of the goats. Man, you know what I'm saying.

593
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: And we just distrust from hip hop. Man, hip hop,

594
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 3: that's the thing.

595
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: We do.

596
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 3: Need to clean up our own house, whatever that mess

597
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 3: may be. We do, but we can't make light of

598
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: the beauty of hip hop. It's a beautiful thing how

599
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: hip hop brings people together. Bro, I'm walking with Star

600
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: Bro to go get some cigars. He from fucking Houston, Texas.

601
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I'm from Long Beach and

602
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: hip hop put us in the same place, in the

603
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: same moment in time, and we just kicked it and

604
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: talked about this culture we love.

605
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: Bro. Let's do you know Scarface a real hip hop here?

606
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: You know, I want to then go back to that slash.

607
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: Ryan gonna let you just slide with that. You said,

608
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: Rod Kim, who else was in the cipher? They were

609
00:31:52,400 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: just having fun. It was Dougie Fresh Rock, Kim, Kumo D. Man.

610
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: They were just having fun. It wasn't it wasn't even

611
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: part of the show d busting, hey Mankumo D knows

612
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: how to rap until it's over, Bro, he Seekumo D

613
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 3: is one of the pioneers of words Smith Ory. Yes,

614
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: it's way back way, you know what I mean. Like

615
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 3: a lot of the a lot of the rappers that

616
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: we would consider lyricists come from the school of Grand

617
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: Master Cast.

618
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and and and and cool

619
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: and and Kumo D.

620
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: It's right inside that inside that that space.

621
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: Man, Like.

622
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: Sometimes we get hung up on Big Daddy came and

623
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: because because he's so hard. Big Daddy came so hard.

624
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: It's crazy cool g raps so hard. It's credit Carris,

625
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: what's so hard? That's what I mean, Thog. Back then,

626
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: there was so many to pick from that was spitting,

627
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: dracking flames.

628
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, And and and and the culture.

629
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: And the craft. The craft. Let me let me back up.

630
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: The craft meant so much.

631
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: We wouldn't have this conversation if everybody loved the craft.

632
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: That's the only thing.

633
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: I always say this, that's the only thing missing, bro,

634
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: It's more love. If you have more love for the

635
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: craft as an artist, we wouldn't even be having this

636
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: conversation about accountability because you would have already taken accountability

637
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: in your song.

638
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: Right. Well, kru, here's the problem, just like in anything else, right,

639
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: whenever something starts to get monetized, it starts to lose

640
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: its eggs, right, because you get people to come in

641
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: just for the for the financial aspect of it. All right.

642
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: You have to remember when we first started rhyming, there

643
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: was really no financial reward behind it. We didn't. I know,

644
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: when I was a kid in Ohiwar, when I first

645
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: picked up a pin and tried to write a rap

646
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: man or tried to shave man, messing up my mama's records. Yeah,

647
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know. It was no industry to it. I didn't.

648
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: I didn't picture in my head. Oh man, one day

649
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be able to get paid from this. I'm

650
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: an be able to go, you know, do a show

651
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: and make this much money. I'm ana be able to

652
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: do this, do that. Right, we didn't have that. That

653
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: wasn't there for us. Right, But now you gotta remember

654
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: the last thirty years of hip hop that's grown up

655
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: watching like the opulence of hip hop. You feel what

656
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. The gold changed man, the jewelry, the big

657
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: booty women, the the cars, the rims. You feel what

658
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, the whole flash of it. All Right. So

659
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: when some of these kids pick up a microphone, it's

660
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: to say, you know what, I want to get paid.

661
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: I don't give a damn about no legsy. I don't

662
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: give a damn about no cool herk or no no

663
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: chuck chill out or nothing nothing else, none of that stuff.

664
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: I Am trying to get paid, you feel me. And

665
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: but the thing is they could get paid at the

666
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: same time, though, still. We never been we never been

667
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: anti getting paid. We just wanted the love for the

668
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: culture and the craft to be present. That's it. I've

669
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: always I've done everything, man, I've done I'm gonna tell

670
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,479
Speaker 1: you right now, Man, I don't do nothing for money.

671
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: I don't start when I first started doing this podcast,

672
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: I didn't do it for money. I don't do music

673
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: for money. I don't do beats for money, you know.

674
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: The homie man shout out to the homie geeperiico, Man.

675
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: He hit me one day, mans, I sent him a

676
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: beat just see what you know. I'm always sending y'all

677
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: beats to see what y'all think about him, right, And

678
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: he said, man, I like that? How much is it?

679
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: And I told him I don't sell beats, yeah, And

680
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: I think it kind of threw them off because he

681
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: hit me back with one hundred question. Mark's right, I said, bro,

682
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't sell beats. And that's the whole nothing. You know,

683
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: that's for business reasons, you know, on topic, just like

684
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: if we gonna work, let's just work, bro, and let's

685
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: make something shape. You feel what I'm saying, right, right,

686
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: I mean I steal something together. I don't do nothing

687
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: because I feel like this, if you all working on

688
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: your craft, man, me, I'm of my fifties crook, and

689
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: I've been producing the records, man, since I was seventeen.

690
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm talking about really just getting a grasp on knowing

691
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: how to use the equipment and stuff like that. I

692
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: really started when I was fourteen, but I was making

693
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: more pause tapes and stuff then. Right. I don't know

694
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: if you remember those, right, because you were a little

695
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: bit younger than me. That Nove just did a song

696
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: on that too. I got really listening to that. NOAs

697
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: up and I gotta listen to that. But I started

698
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: off doing pause tapes, right, started off doing pause tapes.

699
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: Then I learned how to I found a groove of

700
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: the record and learn how to bring the beat back.

701
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. I found the groove of that.

702
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: Then my homie man, I had a homeboy, man had insnic.

703
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: Then I got introduced to the SB twelve hundred, and

704
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: that's when it was over for me, you feel what

705
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's when it was over. Right. I learned

706
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: how to use that SB twelve hundred, and then the

707
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: mother load came out. They came out with the NPC

708
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: and it's been on it since then. I've been an

709
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: MPC guy ever since then. Yeah, Bro, it was always

710
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: anti software. Always liked the big machine, right. I always

711
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: like the feel of the pass hitting the past like

712
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: this now if you can see my room, Bro, I

713
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: got the many keyboard. All my stuff is inside the computer.

714
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: You feel me, yeah, for the little my stuff. But

715
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: I've never done a beat, Dog, I've never started doing

716
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: none of that to get paid, Dog. And I've made

717
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: I've been able to make it. I've been able to

718
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: make I'm not gonna sit up here and pretend like

719
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: by any stretch of the magination now made whose money

720
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: or any of these other guys' money. But I've made

721
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: a nice living from hip hop.

722
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: Dog.

723
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. And I'm not even I'm not even

724
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: the household name.

725
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 3: But I've always done I've always just really stuck to

726
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: my morals with the craft, Dog, and I've always been

727
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 3: able to get stuff off here and there.

728
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: You feel me, well, you know what I did it for,

729
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, for the love.

730
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: I think you gotta love it because once you enter

731
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 3: the business, there's gonna be a lot of ups and downs.

732
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 3: They could twist your your dream into a pretzel. So

733
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, you gotta love it to

734
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: stick with it. That's one reason why I think everybody

735
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: should love it, just so you can stick with it.

736
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: But you know, I started, I started thinking about this

737
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: being something that could improve my financial situation when I

738
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 3: heard paid in full, you know what I'm saying, And

739
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: when rock Yemp said, I don't like to dream about

740
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: getting paid, so I dig into the books or the

741
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 3: rhymes that I made. You know what I'm saying, it's Suttestically,

742
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: if I got full hit the studio, now I'm paid

743
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: in full. I said, wait a minute, he getting paid

744
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: in full from going in the studio. I'm going in

745
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: for free. But if I can get paid in full,

746
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: I'm there, you know what I'm saying. Even more, And

747
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: that came with a lot of bumps and bruises, but

748
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 3: it kind of it kind of made me shift my

749
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 3: focus to it's okay to get paid for.

750
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: Your craft in your heart. You know what I'm saying.

751
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's it's it's it's good man. But

752
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 3: but if you coming in here and money is your master,

753
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: you're not the master of money. A lot of them

754
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: dudes crash out at the end, you know what I mean,

755
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: because they never had the love in the first place.

756
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: It was just all about money.

757
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: It ain't all about money with me when I'm up

758
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 3: at three in the morning, jump out of bed because

759
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 3: I had an idea and I don't want that idea

760
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 3: to escape me. I'm not getting paid to get up

761
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: at three in the morning and go write all this stuff.

762
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: A lot of it ain't never coming out to be monetized,

763
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

764
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: It's real so funny.

765
00:39:59,680 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: Man.

766
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: Not to cut you off, bro, but let's go back,

767
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna rewind a little bit. You know what

768
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about, right, hip hop? Different groups

769
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: have showed us throughout time what the money was like

770
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: in hip hop, right, Like I remember EPMD said on

771
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: you Guys the Chill, I Get a thousand show. Been

772
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: many places deal with New Jackson, the one on one base.

773
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: He said, I get a thousand the show. Yeah, a thousand,

774
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: that's what he was, and that was something to brag

775
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: about back then. Yeah, you can't get nobody, man, you

776
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: can't get the average. You can't get a nigga. F

777
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: that's from the East Side, Long Beach right now, that's

778
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: over there talk. I'll give him. That's just a not

779
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: even a household name yet, Man, I got a thousand

780
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: fig Man, you tripping? I need more than that, you

781
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: feel me? And then Biggie said, five Jesus showed Gate

782
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: and this is when he was at his prime on

783
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: going back to Kelly. Five Jesus Showgate. Yeah, you know

784
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, And I thought about it, man,

785
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: hip hop has came a long way because you got dudes. No,

786
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: I know Dot out there probably getting two fifty three

787
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: hundred the show, if not more, I think more. That's

788
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Hip hop has came a long way, bro, Yeah,

789
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: it came a long way. It's funny. You can't even

790
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: way EPM d Legens. They said they was getting a

791
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: thousand of show. Now you've got Dot getting eight or

792
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: four hundred, five hundred times that. You feel what I'm saying.

793
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dog, it's funny you say EPMD because I you know,

794
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: I got into meditation because you know, I wanted to.

795
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 3: It's some self development. It's very important to me. So

796
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 3: I got into meditation, visualization and all that. And I

797
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: had to call Eric Simon one day and I said, yo,

798
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 3: yo e, it just occurred to me that you might

799
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: have one of the most powerful opening bars in hip

800
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: hop history.

801
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 1: And he said, what's that? And I said, relax your mind,

802
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: Let your conscience be free. Free, I said, you know

803
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: what I said.

804
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: I was sitting there meditating and I had a whole

805
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: lot on my mind, my business, my personal I just

806
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: had a lot on my mind and that rap line

807
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: kept coming to me, Relax your mind, let your conscience

808
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 3: be free.

809
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: And it helped me too. I said, it's crazy, you

810
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: copd that'll say what you told him that? Yeah, hey, dog,

811
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 1: I swear I had to call him on that because

812
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: he helped me.

813
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 3: And I wanted him to know that what you sat

814
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: down and wrote in the eighties still has meaning in

815
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five.

816
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: It was last year when I called him. You know

817
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that's crazy.

818
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: Rap is powerful and it goes it goes back to

819
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: your point. Rap is powerful. So we got to handle

820
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 3: with care sometimes.

821
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. And we always have to go man,

822
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: And that's what I think about sometimes. You gotta remember, Crook,

823
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm a dude man from Cleveland, Ohio. Dog that never

824
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: thought that some of the people who I'm friends with them.

825
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm talking about people I got really tight relationships with, right,

826
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: Like I think about it. Sometimes the men Too Short

827
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: be texting back and forth. I think about it like

828
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: I remember when I was banging Too Short when I

829
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: was a little kid. Dog could have never told me

830
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: that me and sure to be partners. You feel what

831
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Or when I talk to dub C or

832
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: when I talk to Mac Dog, and it's like, man,

833
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: like these is the homies of DJ Bobcat. I remember

834
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: when DJJ Bobcat had the Raccoon had on Home Man

835
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: DJ and for Bob for Lo Cool Jay. You feel me,

836
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: and I'm like, these are the homies now, man, So

837
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: dreams do come true. Bro, You he's gotta stay consistent

838
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: and persistent in which you do. Man. I think if

839
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: it's there for you, man, if it's what it's meant

840
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: for you, Dog, it's gonna be for you.

841
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 3: Dog. Those people you named are straight up legends. Straight

842
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 3: every time straight legends in the game.

843
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

844
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: Look, every time I hollered at them, you the go

845
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 3: dog like you're the greatest of all time. Yeah, Dog,

846
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 3: you know it's it's a blessing, bro, and that's the

847
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 3: beauty of hip hop. So I do want us to

848
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 3: learn how to focus on the beauty of hip hop.

849
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: There's something that I used to say all the time,

850
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: and a lot of other rappers said, But I don't

851
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 3: hear the younger generation saying it that much.

852
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: And I'm not judging them because I'm the one who.

853
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: Is gonna always be on the side of the youth.

854
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: But I don't hear them saying hip hop saved my life. No,

855
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: I hear we heard that?

856
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: Still, how many rappers you heard say that? I'm talking

857
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: about rappers with plaques, platinum plaques, Oh, a.

858
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: Whole lot of man. You know what, anybody man that

859
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: came out in that era? Man that Now, I've heard

860
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: a few people a day say it, like a few

861
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 1: people today, but not that many.

862
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: Man.

863
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: Again, it's a it's a case of what can I

864
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 1: get from this? You feel me? And it's a sense

865
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: of entitlement almost, man, because I've see some guys. Man,

866
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: I've seen guys and man, Man, don't get me wrong.

867
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 1: I love the young rappers, man, I'm all about encouraging

868
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: the up and coming talent. Man, the youngsters, I like

869
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: what it is they do, and everything is supposed to change, man,

870
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: everything is supposed to change. I did all these young

871
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: cats doing what they do, like, I love the Coast

872
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: Contray cats. Man. I think your brothers. I think the

873
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: Horseshoe Gang is dope.

874
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 3: Man.

875
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: I see a whole lot of men like really dope

876
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: young people. Man. I think hip hop is in good hand. Man.

877
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: When the future comes, we gotta have young talent coming out.

878
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: We gotta have young lions coming out. What's gonna happen? Man?

879
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: You can you crook? You can't try to help. You

880
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: can't still be trying to hold it down in your eighties.

881
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 2: Man, Hey man, you know what I'm saying. I'm I'm

882
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: gonna jump off the golf cart.

883
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

884
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna jump off the golf cart with some white

885
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 2: corn rolls.

886
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: You feel me like a real OKG and be like,

887
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 3: hey nah, but you're right though, Like it's real. It's

888
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 3: you know, the new generation many I think I think.

889
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: All too often.

890
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 3: My legacy brothers and they they they they talk at

891
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 3: the youth instead of talking.

892
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: To the youth. You know what I'm saying. You can't

893
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: do that, man, because everybody has their place right and

894
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: the thing is crooked. I'm gonna tell you, man, my

895
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: son has sent me this dude man he played ball

896
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: with man at sc He has sent me his olt

897
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: man kidd named Greg Man. He hard like he's a

898
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: he's a spinner man. And I can appreciate because I

899
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: hear his music.

900
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 3: And I hear that little young bop to it. The

901
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 3: way they be having they look yeah yeah, I mean

902
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 3: you know, but the high hats doing some crazy ship

903
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: in the background. Hey, the ways and stuff. But I

904
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: appreciate it cause that's they bop. That's what he's supposed

905
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 3: to be on.

906
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: You feel me. Still, he gotta be on that. That's

907
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't I don't expect him to

908
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: come with the sonics that that's my sonics. You feel

909
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I just don't expect that man. And

910
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: I think that what he's doing he can rhyme like

911
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: like I listened to his stuff and I said, he

912
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: can rhyme me tell. He's telling stories. He's talking about

913
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: his neighborhood. He's getting me familiar to where he at,

914
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: Like he got a him and his brother had a

915
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: c he called called the Roger, called straight from the Roger,

916
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: and I was like, what is the roger? I asked him.

917
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: He said, that's the garage. That's what me and my

918
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: brother used to call the garage, since that's we recorded at.

919
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: I said, that's hip hop right there, that's hip hop,

920
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: brother fire, you know what I'm saying.

921
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 3: He wanted this sound like the current times because when

922
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 3: I go listen to Stevie Wonder, I could.

923
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: Tell this song was made in the seventies exactly.

924
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 3: I want to be able to tell that this song

925
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: was made by some young cats in twenty twenty six.

926
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: I want to be able to tell that now.

927
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: I'm not mad and I'm journeying into the old nineties

928
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 3: sound because it's retro. Now we wear retro Jordan's retro shot.

929
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: I'm not mad at them going retro every now and then,

930
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But I'm not gonna judge

931
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 3: them for a new sound that I didn't come up on.

932
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 3: You feel me, man, You know what you just had

933
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 3: me thinking about?

934
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: Right? I remember, man, the first time, do you remember

935
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: the first show you ever did? And I'm not talking

936
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: about No Big, I'm not talking about she was a

937
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: crooked eye or king crook Nick. I'm talking about like

938
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: when you was like a nobody. Yeah, do you remember

939
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: where I.

940
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: Was at I did a talent show. I did a

941
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: talent show at my elementary school and I rapped rappers delight?

942
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 3: Is that right?

943
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: Did you get? Did you get a lot of applause?

944
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: Did you Oh? Yeah?

945
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: Yeah? Have you ever went over a friend how to eat?

946
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 3: And the food was just no good? I mean the

947
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 3: macaronie cheese and peas all mush and the chicken taste

948
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 3: like woods.

949
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna tell you, man, I remember, man,

950
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: we had it was a little spot called the King

951
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: Kennedy Center, right, that was like the little local place man.

952
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: You know, they always had man little things in the city,

953
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: man to try to keep the youth engage right, like

954
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: you might play a quarter to get in right. And

955
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: they had all the lights, the disco lights going on.

956
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: And you know, I got excited, man, because I saw

957
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: somebody man on the turntables right there. You know, people

958
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: start coming out with their turntables and stuff, right, And

959
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 1: I remember, Man, I started, I had me a couple

960
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: of little flimsy wraps, I wrote, man, But I was

961
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: vocally hesitant back at that time. I was like, I

962
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: would save my stuff around the friends, but whatever whole

963
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: bunch of people coming around, I would kind of freeze up.

964
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. And I had a homeboy

965
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: man shot my homeboy tied.

966
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 3: Man.

967
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: He started telling me, Man, get him, don't get him

968
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: like he got you.

969
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: Man. I'm telling you, the homie got you know, he

970
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 3: could do this and do that, and I'll just beat hey. Man,

971
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 3: he was trying to be your greatest hype man. That's

972
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, man. But when it came to life,

973
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: it came to life.

974
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: Man. All it took was one time. I remember I

975
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: did that show at the King Kennedy Center, Man, and

976
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: I saw all the way man, all the little girls

977
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: was looking at me and stuff. I said, Man, this

978
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: ain't that bad home stocking, Like ooh pretty good man.

979
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 3: Well this, man, I want to experience this feeling over

980
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 3: and over and over again. Hey man, that's the beauty

981
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 3: of it, bro. You know, one of the most beautiful

982
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 3: things I ever seen. Man.

983
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 2: I get called in to talk at school sometimes.

984
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: And uh.

985
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 3: There was a music class in la and Nipsey Hood

986
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 3: and they even had a mural of nipsy on the school.

987
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 3: And when I walked inside the classroom, Bro, they had

988
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 3: NPCs at each desk, and they had a booth, a

989
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 3: recording booth in the classroom, and they had they had keyboards,

990
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 3: they had public enemy and ice cube posters on the wall.

991
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: And the school I forget, man.

992
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 3: It's a charter school. It's in La Man, it's a

993
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: charter school. And I think my guy, Sebastian, I think

994
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 3: my guy shout out Sebastian. I think that's who teaches

995
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 3: that class and dog. Them kids cooked up a song

996
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 3: for me right there on the spot.

997
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: While I was in there.

998
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 3: They on the impis they cooked the beat. Somebody had

999
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 3: rowed some rhymes and somebody engineered them. While they was

1000
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: in the booth busting the rhymes. Bro, I said, this

1001
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 3: is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.

1002
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: See that's dope. Man. I wish you remember the name

1003
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: of that school. Man, I'll find out. I'll let you know. Shit. See,

1004
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: we need more stuff like that, man, That's what I'm saying. Man,

1005
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: in order for in order for us to spread man

1006
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: with our feeling a hip hop up for the youth, Man,

1007
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: we gotta stop hating on these little dudes and start

1008
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: embracing them man, like I'm not gonna lie quickly. I

1009
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: try to help people evening. And I don't mean I

1010
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: necessarily got the finance to go out and sign everybody.

1011
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,479
Speaker 1: And it's not about that all the time. It's about

1012
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: sometimes just pointing a little homie in some direction.

1013
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 3: Man.

1014
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's about, man, maybe you know what homies music

1015
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: might not be right. Instead of dissing them, show them

1016
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: how to get his stuff right. You feel what I'm saying,

1017
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: because it don't take a whole bunch of money sometimes sometimes, Man,

1018
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this, man, it don't cost you

1019
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: nothing man to help somebody. Man, it don't cost you

1020
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: nothing man to show somebody, give somebody some game or something.

1021
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: You feel me. So I was just tweeting.

1022
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 3: I was just tweeting earlier this morning. I was a

1023
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 3: head and r at this label. People don't know that.

1024
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: And one of the young rappers I taught him how

1025
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: to count bars. That's crazy, And.

1026
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 3: He became a whole new artist after that day because

1027
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 3: he was making songs and sometimes he'll have a seven

1028
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 3: bar verse and then a hook, and you know that

1029
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 3: sound crazy because it needed to be. You know eight

1030
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 3: sixteen you needed eight twelve sixteen. You know.

1031
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: The structure was just it just felt weird.

1032
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: If this sounded dope, I would have left it alone.

1033
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: But it didn't.

1034
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: And it bothered him too, like, man, why this ain't

1035
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: you need to.

1036
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: Change that part of the beat.

1037
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 3: This part of the beat suposed to come on the

1038
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: hook and all that. And I pulled him outside. I said,

1039
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: it's the beat, don't need to be changed to beat

1040
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 3: the structure correctly. You missing a bar? You know what

1041
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1042
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: You wrote seven bars.

1043
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: So I taught him how D was signed already, and

1044
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: that right there is a test meant to.

1045
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: How you can be signed in this day and age.

1046
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 3: Based on your personality and your social media follow and

1047
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 3: and your music will take the back seat. A lot

1048
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 3: of people are like, we'll try to figure out the music.

1049
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 3: But he got a big following and he got a

1050
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 3: big personality, so we gonna sign this kid.

1051
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: You know, but.

1052
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 3: We had to go through a boot camp before we

1053
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 3: was either considered to be signed or anything like that.

1054
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: You to, you know, you know what, shout out to

1055
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: mister mix Man, mister mix from two Lack who actually

1056
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: taught me how to count bars. He actually taught me

1057
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: how to count bars. I had an idea, but everything

1058
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: I wrote was like super Loan all the time. Like

1059
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: I used to have me in like thirty six bar

1060
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: versus you feel Me? I still do you say? Man?

1061
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: Like somebody wanted to hear that? Just me rapped, he

1062
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: told me, And he told me, said, dude, I already

1063
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: knew how to count bars per se. He gave me

1064
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: song structure. He got me writing more twelves, man, or

1065
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: maybe just have two sixteen's in the song, man, Or

1066
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: have a hook at the beginning of the song, come

1067
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: with a twelve, come back with a hook again, then

1068
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 1: coming back with maybe your eighth bar first in you

1069
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: feel Me? He said. He told me, he said, dude,

1070
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: ain't nobody paying attention to you like that?

1071
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1072
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: That's I mean.

1073
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 3: You gotta have a real following for them to sit there,

1074
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 3: or they gotta just be into into bars like you

1075
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 3: got some it's a.

1076
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: Niche, But you have some fan too.

1077
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 3: They don't want it. Some of them don't even want

1078
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 3: to hook. I've been asked to make albums with no hooks. Bro,

1079
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 3: that sounds crazy to me.

1080
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: I grew up.

1081
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind that.

1082
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 3: Well, I grew up with songs structure, you know what

1083
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like you said, we're gonna come in if

1084
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 3: we're trying to, you know, get straight to it. We're

1085
00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: gonna come in and give him an eight bar hook

1086
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 3: at the top of the song. We're gonna give him

1087
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 3: a sixteen.

1088
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: Another eight bar hook.

1089
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 2: Then we're gonna go into a four bar bridge and

1090
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 2: that's gonna be catchy as fuck.

1091
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna do a twelve.

1092
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 3: Bar after that, go back to an eight bar hook

1093
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 3: and get out of there. Like it's all types of

1094
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 3: different ways. But you know, I figured I always was

1095
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 3: one of the you know, I always say this is

1096
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 3: a quote, you got a master the rules before you

1097
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 3: break them, Oh.

1098
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: For sure, hundred percent. You know what though, man, I'm

1099
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: gonna tell you this, like I'm gonna tell you the

1100
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: great thing about hip hop is some people that you

1101
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: don't expect to have bars and if you really pay

1102
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: attention to they borrowed up. Trade d is Real borrowed up. Yeah,

1103
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: Trady just hit me just a monte Ago. He borrowed up.

1104
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: Tradyd is Real borrowed up. He singing some flow, man,

1105
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: he just got he got flow, he got Caden's, he

1106
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: got lyrics, he got Yeah, he got vocabulary like a mug.

1107
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: I wonder, man, have you ever heard a song from

1108
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 1: him that that wasn't a gangster rep It wouldn't be him.

1109
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: Oh that would be interesting to hear though, just him

1110
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: on some straight MC ship.

1111
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 3: I think, uh, I think his gangster raps is mc ship. Yeah,

1112
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 3: because because he's usually he's.

1113
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: Just keeps coming out of his toolbox. He has a

1114
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 2: technical toolbox that he's working from.

1115
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.

1116
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: He's doing inside runs, he's doing certain patterns, he's doing

1117
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 2: outside runs.

1118
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of technical, technical you know, wordplay

1119
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 3: going on in the raps too. So yeah, Doug, it's

1120
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 3: that's the beautiful thing about it. It's like, whoever could

1121
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 3: tell your story tell your story in an artistic flyway,

1122
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 3: whatever that story is.

1123
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You he stared this one

1124
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: line on glasses song. Man, I'm trying to find it. No, man,

1125
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I can't remember the name of

1126
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: that song, but it's one of my It was called Active, right, Yeah,

1127
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: it was called Active. Did you ever get that song?

1128
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I probably heard it but I

1129
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: quote it. See, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell

1130
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: you what it is, man, because he said something on that,

1131
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to pull it up, so I don't want

1132
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: to butcher the homie's lyrics.

1133
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you where he really got off on

1134
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 2: that song reality on dog food.

1135
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he got busy on that. He got busy

1136
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,919
Speaker 3: on twenty first. It's the worst. It's turf from his surf.

1137
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 3: So I feel I was meant to represent his birth

1138
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 3: till I die. It was going off on that. I said,

1139
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 3: whoa trady cooked that ball? He cooked that one? He

1140
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 3: cooked that one, boy, and that beat was hard. He

1141
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 3: said something he said, and they.

1142
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: Scared to hang Outniggas know who did it because they

1143
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: screamed the scene out when he said it was like

1144
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: it was just so hard man. He said, where them

1145
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: bags get lined up? They talk about body bags? Do

1146
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: what depth? And they you know, they scared to hang

1147
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: out something. You know who did it because they yelled insane.

1148
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: I said, man, this dude is a monster.

1149
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 3: Man.

1150
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: It was just so vifvid I can actually see the

1151
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: gunman popping cats man and getting lined up in the

1152
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: corner come to line and cats up in bags and

1153
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: zipping them up, and he just and they scared, and

1154
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: the people looking out their windows like they're scared to

1155
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: say something.

1156
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, man, that that reality. You know what

1157
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Paint that picture like, Yo, I really seen

1158
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 3: this stuff happen. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you. And I'm

1159
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 3: gonna tell you a secret. Right when I first came

1160
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 3: out here from Ohio, right, I was playing ball at

1161
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: Long Beach City College, right and right, the homie man,

1162
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 3: we used to have these parties, right, and there used

1163
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 3: to be something everybody and we stayed in these apartments

1164
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: off of Molina, right, and I remember, man, everybody kind

1165
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 3: of ran down would have like two apartments going right.

1166
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 3: One upstairs was where the most gangster stuff was going on.

1167
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 3: Niggas in there, shooting dice, spray paint on the wall

1168
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 3: and stuff in the apartment.

1169
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: Right.

1170
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: And if somebody everybody starts running downstairs. Man, if somebody

1171
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: was up there, like man pick trad E upstairs. I

1172
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: didn't get to see him during that time, but I

1173
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: heard his name. It's a whole bunch of dudes ran downstairs. Man.

1174
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: That was one of like who was Big trade E

1175
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: Hey Dog.

1176
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,439
Speaker 3: Me and D came in the game at the same time.

1177
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 3: Bro we was We came in the game at the

1178
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 3: same time. I think one of the first shows he

1179
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 3: rocked when he had got out from doing his first bid,

1180
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 3: was at the Ebell Theater.

1181
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:45,959
Speaker 1: Me and him was on State.

1182
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 3: He had a He had a set, I had a set.

1183
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 3: It was nothing but members in the crowd. It was

1184
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 3: wats La, Compton Long Beach. It was just against the

1185
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 3: function and he came out and rocked that man and

1186
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 3: Homie rest in peace, tad out, you know what I'm saying,

1187
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 3: was there, he was the host and ever since then,

1188
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 3: bro Man D been real. We've been thinking.

1189
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: Thieves, you know what I'm saying.

1190
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 2: But you just made me think of something, man, You

1191
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: made me think of something. Talking about gangst the Rap.

1192
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 3: Do you buy into the theory that the CIA created

1193
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 3: and helped finance Gainst.

1194
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: The Rap for an agenda? I think to a certain

1195
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: degree yes, because even if you look at the day Crook,

1196
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: that's what's being pushed. Right. I remember, man, you know,

1197
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: because I was a and R too, right, and I

1198
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: remember talking to somebody men from Jive Records, and they

1199
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: told me they said, well, men we don't sign stuff

1200
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: this positive. If you know, we've had guys come in

1201
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: there with positive rappers. We had to get into some

1202
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: more age, and you know, people actually encourage casts man

1203
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: to become something that they not, and that right there

1204
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: is fraudulent. You're gonna get somebody killed doing that. Yeah,

1205
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: you know. And that's the thing. Man like me, I've

1206
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: always man wanted to be januine and who I was.

1207
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: I've been in the streets, man, but I'm not no

1208
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: game bank. You feel me, And I've always told people that, well,

1209
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: you know where we come from. You can't just say

1210
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: anything in a rap and you didn't really do it

1211
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: or experience it. You get that, you know what I'm saying,

1212
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: Like like that was a no, no, you'll get a

1213
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: phone call, Yeah for sure. With all the homies I got, man,

1214
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: this Twenties and Insane just because I might have hung

1215
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: out with them cats, don't give me the right to

1216
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: go on on record talk about this big steal.

1217
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 3: From Insane gang or you know from twenties. You feel

1218
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. That's not I'm not from there. I'm

1219
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 3: not from their neighborhood, thog And guess what some people

1220
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 3: did that though a whole lot of people did it,

1221
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 3: and they got and and some of them got boo

1222
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 3: bopped out of park meeting.

1223
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, some some of them got

1224
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 2: some of them.

1225
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 3: Got you know, invited, they threw, they threw a surprise

1226
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 3: party for him, is what I'm trying to say.

1227
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: And I say this, man, I think because I have

1228
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: took that stance, it's why some of the g homies

1229
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: do respect me. If you feel what I'm saying, That's

1230
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: why some of the g homies do respect me, man,

1231
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: because I've always just been who I am. Feel me yeah,

1232
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: me too, Dog, You don't posts don't get me wrong.

1233
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: I don't don't get me wrong. I don't. I don't

1234
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: got it.

1235
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 3: I don't with cats, I don't know, give my everything else.

1236
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 3: But I never was a game banger, Dog, I never

1237
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 3: game bang. You get rewarded for being true to yourself, yeah,

1238
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 3: for sure.

1239
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying. If you asked the

1240
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: homie find me, if he wouldn't have caught that beer,

1241
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: he for sure. He said, I was gonna make sure

1242
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: you was gonna be from the hood. I said, Man,

1243
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: I ain't glad you went to jail. Dog. But I'm

1244
01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: glad that didn't happen. You feel me. Shout out farm man,

1245
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: shout out and found him and shout out Trad D. Man.

1246
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy? Dog? As long as I've been

1247
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: in California, Dog, as long as I've been doing I

1248
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: ain't never met Trady. Dog.

1249
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 3: That's crazy. I've never met Trady bro That is crazy.

1250
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 3: See that's the thing.

1251
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: Listen.

1252
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 3: D be real low key too, though he don't really

1253
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: you know, he go to his shows and go on

1254
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 3: and chill out, and he be on boats and you

1255
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, he's doing his playing thing with

1256
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 3: his white Trady is a grown man, you feel me.

1257
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 3: And he dropping jewels like he's supposed to. When you

1258
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 3: get to a certain level, you're supposed to drop them jewels, man,

1259
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 3: and he be doing it too all the time.

1260
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: But I just think that's an interesting topic.

1261
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 2: Because I think gangster raptors misunderstood.

1262
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: It is. Man. You know what I would like to do.

1263
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: I would like to get him on there just to

1264
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: talk about that one day, because he's definitely man. Wanted to.

1265
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: I would say, I'll put him out there, man, I

1266
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: put I put Trad up there, man as far as

1267
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: gangster rep go with Scarface.

1268
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, dog, Trady is is the truth.

1269
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: I put Trady with like the greats, but Scarface with

1270
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: iced tea. Huh. With cats like that, you feel what

1271
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's he's he's up there. Dog, he's one

1272
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: of them.

1273
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 3: He's one of them giants with that, you know, Man,

1274
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 3: his voice is unique. I remember we was working on

1275
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 3: a joint in ninety five for my solo album, my

1276
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 3: first solo album.

1277
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: I was a kid, and.

1278
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 3: We had this song called putting It Down, and uh,

1279
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 3: Jim Gettle made the beat. We was at Echo Sound

1280
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 3: Studio and he got on there and said, it's going

1281
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 3: down when I say so so, nigga laylo my melodies

1282
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 3: is feeling these like Jayo.

1283
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, man, it's Trady, one of them giants man.

1284
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: For me, I really appreciate you man coming to man

1285
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: at the last minute, man to come and come and

1286
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: sit in with your boy. Man. All right, Man, I'm

1287
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: had to really I had to call my dude to

1288
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: see what's going on with him because he usually don't

1289
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: do me like this. Bro.

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01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: Man, When m c a drive, it's a comptant thing.

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Speaker 2: Boom boom boom, budderdroom.

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Speaker 1: This is for comp that I said, whoa. I don't

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Speaker 1: think the way the way we.

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Speaker 3: The environment we grew up here still is probably why

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Speaker 3: we have such a fondness for that kind of music,

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Speaker 3: because it takes us back to a place that we

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Speaker 3: are really familiar with, you know what I'm saying. And

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Speaker 3: he's another one, but ye had dog. You know, I'm

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Speaker 3: pulling up, man, we're gonna talk some rap. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: talk about what's going on. I'm gonna pull up and

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Speaker 3: and and and before we finish it off.

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Speaker 1: You know, I do think.

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Speaker 3: Certain rappers and certain messages that they're putting out there,

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Speaker 3: they need to have some accountability for what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's deeper than just saying yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: I might shouldn't have said that. I think every human being,

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Speaker 3: every man, every woman, needs to do the inner work

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Speaker 3: on themselves, and then when you express yourself after that,

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Speaker 3: you'll be aligned and on cold with what we need

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Speaker 3: you to be on cold with.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It starts with the inner

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Speaker 1: work right there. That's why I almost know men that

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Speaker 1: there were other outside forces, men that kind of for

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Speaker 1: instrumental men and orchestrating this whole thing, right, because you

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Speaker 1: have people thinking that that's the only way, bro, that

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Speaker 1: they have to do that, in a word, to be successful.

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Speaker 2: Like they can't be the well just like you said,

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Speaker 2: label said, we gotta give them edge.

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Speaker 3: I talked to a label and they asked me if

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Speaker 3: I knew anybody coming up in the game, you know,

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Speaker 3: they was looking to sign, and I.

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Speaker 1: Said, yeah, I know plenty.

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Speaker 3: And one of the things that was mandatory on their

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Speaker 3: list of criteria was that they'd be in the streets

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Speaker 3: and that you know, they wanted live wires, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So when the money says, hey we

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Speaker 3: looking for some young shooters to get on a mic,

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Speaker 3: young shooters are gonna step up, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And uh, we can't take all the accountability without placing

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Speaker 3: some of that on the machines who are financing and

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Speaker 3: pushing that out. But it's like you said, yeah, like

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Speaker 3: you said, they say, hey, that's what people want to hear.

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Speaker 3: You know, I could listen to a song that I

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Speaker 3: think is horrible, but if I'm on a freeway stuck

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Speaker 3: in traffic for two hours and that song come on

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Speaker 3: twenty times while I'm driving, I might find myself repeating

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Speaker 3: those lyrics.

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Speaker 1: It's called programming, my brother, so why not program me

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Speaker 1: with some d one.

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Speaker 3: He talking to positive. I guess you feel me. So

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Speaker 3: it's a lot to be done.

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Speaker 1: We got work to do.

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Speaker 3: We try to build platforms. We try to embrace the youth.

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Speaker 3: We try to guide and offer wisdom. That's all we

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Speaker 3: could do.

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Speaker 1: Bro. That's it, man, And you know what, Man? On

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Speaker 1: that note, Man, we gone well. That concludes another episode

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