1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:01,639 Speaker 1: It's up on game. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 2: Let me pick out, let me pinch out the game. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: You want NFL experience, and this is the show for you. 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 3: Third Law with LaVar ary Ten as a defensive guy. TJ. 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: Houshman Zana. 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: I'm just bringing the viewers into how grown men in 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: the locker room, like I don't play with some dude 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: that you disrespect them anyway, didn't matter who it was 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: they was putting hands on you. 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 4: And Blaxico Burress, they are the same person, the same 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 4: exact quarterback. 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: It's a show with three. I'm the best to ever 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: do it on and off the field, and not live 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Here's pro bowlers LeVar 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: earing Ten, TJ. Hushman Zanna, and Silver Bowl champion Blaxicoe fs. 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: All Right, all right, all right, all right, welcome in 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: to up on games. Yeah uh well, we are in 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 3: the Fox Sports Radio studios. And you know what Draft covers, Yep, 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: it was on Fox Sports Radio. It was brought to 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 3: you by sip ship station and it colms the chaos 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: with the shipping software that delivers. You can use code 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: Sports for a free trial at shipstation dot com. That's 23 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: shipstation dot com. Code Sports. There's a lot to get 24 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 3: to and clearly, clearly, clearly with all the things that 25 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: I could tease as the teasers, I'm just gonna let 26 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 3: it breathe on the teasers because well, this Shador Sanders 27 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: conversation has obviously been positioned as the story of the 28 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: draft and possibly what the story of the year. So 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna keep it open for us to have 30 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: the conversation if so needed. And before we get into that, 31 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: before we ump into that and this year's NFL draft, 32 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: I gotta ask, like, you know, obviously, start this thing 33 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 3: off the right way every time, you know, you know, 34 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: how ya, how y'all feeling man, How you feeling, Blacks, 35 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: how y'all feeling? 36 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: Hey man, feeling great? 37 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 4: Man. It's a beautiful weather here finally on the East coast. 38 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 4: It kind of seems like the weather's breaking over here. 39 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 4: So man, everything is looking up, you know, in the 40 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 4: eighty degree range, and you know what, sun is out clear, 41 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 4: skuys man, better, can you ask. 42 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: For it's not raining where you're at? 43 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 4: No, No, it's not raining here? 44 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: Okay? 45 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: Nice? All lovely, all lovely. 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: I think we're still waiting on TJ to get on 47 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 3: so we'll we'll catch up with him if he makes 48 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: it on. But let's let's jump right in, let's jump 49 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: right into this. So obviously, uh, the draft has taken place. 50 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: Some positive things have happened are in the draft. Dreams 51 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: have come true, dreams have been made. But obviously the 52 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: biggest storyline that is a part of this this draft 53 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 3: is Schador Sanders still not being drafted. We go through 54 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: round one, the conversation takes place, We get into round two. 55 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: Now the conversation has continued on you know, mel kiper 56 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: Joel Klattu, the Marcus? 57 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 4: Uh? 58 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 3: What the Marcus? Why am I blanking on his name? 59 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: Works for you? 60 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: Not? Is it? 61 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: Where is the markets where big Boy. 62 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: Big Dog went to I'm not sure I'm messing up, 63 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: isn't it? Market spears? 64 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: Market spears, market spears? Why am I missing Marcus Spears? 65 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: Uh? 66 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 3: You know, Uh, stephen A, there's a lot of people 67 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: chiming in. Stephen A went as far as to even 68 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: compare Shador Sanders to Colin and Kaepernick. There has been 69 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: crazy words used discussed. This is just you know, crazy, 70 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: the way that this has been covered and the amount 71 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: of outrage connected to it. So I wanted us to 72 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: have the conversation. Obviously, I wanted to have it here. 73 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: What's your first what's what's your first reactions to the 74 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: idea of this being you know, so you know, blown 75 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: up and propped up as the biggest storyline of the 76 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 3: draft so far. What's your take on it? 77 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, how can that not be the 78 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 4: biggest storyline of this year's draft? You know, just so 79 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: you know, a couple of months ago, we were talking 80 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 4: about you know, your door saying this is possible to 81 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 4: be in the number one player taking off the board 82 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 4: and going to Tennessee. If not that, then you know 83 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 4: maybe Cleveland Browns or that definitely give them at three 84 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 4: for the New York Giants. And uh, none of this 85 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 4: has happened. And now you know, we're on day three, 86 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 4: and you know, you look at all the quarterbacks that 87 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 4: have been taken before them, and you look at their 88 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 4: college careers, and you look at what your door has 89 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 4: been able to do playing the quarterback was in college football, 90 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 4: and then you begin to evaluate the players. You start 91 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: comparing what they have with combers in college versus what 92 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 4: your door has been able to do. And from an 93 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 4: evaluation standpoint, there are few guys that have been drafted 94 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 4: before him that. 95 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: I don't believe that they are his caliber of talent. 96 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 4: So when you look at it like that, there have 97 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 4: to be something more than football, more than performance base. 98 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: What is that? 99 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 4: We don't know because you know, we've been hearing conflicting 100 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 4: reports of uh, you know how we're meeting went, or 101 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 4: you know how it's pro day was. He wasn't delivering 102 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 4: the ball on time. Man, he couldn't throw them, fit 103 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 4: the ball in the different windows and things of that nature. 104 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 4: But it's crazy how I'm hearing people saying that, you know, 105 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 4: he's going to be a bust. And what what I 106 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 4: would say to that is there are a lot there 107 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: have been a lot of quarterbacks taken in this NFL 108 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: draft who have went a lot higher than he has been. 109 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 4: First pick, second pick, third picks, and a lot of 110 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 4: those players, I'm not going to name them because that's 111 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 4: not that's not what I'm here for, but they were busted. 112 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 4: So if you're considering your door Sanders to already be 113 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 4: a bust, if he goes out and have any success, 114 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 4: then you already have got the return in your investment. 115 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: You're saying that you know, oh he's a sixth round 116 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 4: pick and he's that. Well, there are there are a 117 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 4: few teams out there in the NFL that really have 118 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: not solidified their quarterback position. You look at the New 119 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 4: England Patriots, you look at the Minnesota Vikings, you look 120 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 4: at the Carolina Panthers, you look at the Seattle Seahawks. 121 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: And can you confirm and and and honestly say that 122 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 4: these starting quarterbacks that are in these organizations say that 123 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 4: they are better quarterbacks than Shador Sanders. 124 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: I think it's for debate. 125 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: This is one thing I. 126 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 4: Do know, based off of, you know, comparing college careers. 127 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 4: I believe that shud Door Sanders is a better quarterback 128 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 4: than Daniel Jones. 129 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: I really do believe that. 130 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 4: And also you look down and and Jacksonville, jackson Dark. 131 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 4: If you say Jacksonville, what has what has he been 132 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 4: able to do as the first pick in the drafts. 133 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: Hasn't done much? He hasn't done much. He's he's got 134 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: to the playoffs. He has gotten to the playoffs. 135 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 4: He's gotten to the playoffs. But I can't sit here 136 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 4: say that Trevor Lawrens and David Jones are better quarterbacks 137 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 4: than let your door Sanders based off of what college 138 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 4: career Trevior Treviy lawnce, you want a couple of world championship, 139 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: college national championships. I'm looking at a Daniel Jones if 140 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: he gets the opportunity to be to work the sixth 141 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 4: pick in the draft, and what he has done up 142 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 4: to this point, I can almost guarantee you that your 143 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 4: Doors Sanders will have a better professional football career at 144 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 4: quarterback than of Daniel Jones. 145 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: All Right, we got TJ on TJ your initial take, 146 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: and we're we're at nine to nine. We got to 147 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: get out at twelve. But we're gonna obviously clearly take 148 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: this into as many segments as we need to. So 149 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 3: but if I got to cut you off, I'm gonna 150 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: cut you off by I'm letting you know that right now. 151 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 3: So but let's let's let's get your shull thought on it. 152 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: Obviously, I'm like everybody else. It's shocked when you have 153 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: a kid that is supposed to be a first round 154 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: pick and they don't get drafted in the first round. 155 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: You say, okay, wow, I was very surprising to be 156 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: picked earlier in the second round. 157 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: M hmm. 158 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: You don't get picked in the second round. Now it's 159 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: a problem. Now they're they're they're sending a message. This 160 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: is a message being sent that nobody is bigger than 161 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: the program. The program is the NFL, bigger than the 162 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: shield nobody. And you say, like, why does he have 163 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: to be you know, the the example, the NFL is 164 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: a machine, man, it's a machine. It doesn't matter who's 165 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: playing the NFL. It's going Tom Brady retire, it's going, 166 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: they're gonna find a new star. We were done playing. 167 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: It's going they're gonna it. Don't it doesn't matter who's playing. 168 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: You either gonna go with the program or you ain't playing. 169 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: And I don't know what he's done to not be 170 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: with the program. That's the thing. And when when you look, 171 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:37,599 Speaker 2: all you can think of is, damn, they really disliked 172 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: Dion that much that they're gonna take it out on 173 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: his kids? Did they dislike Prime so much that they 174 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: taking it out on his kids? Because we can say, oh, 175 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 2: Shuder can't do this, he can't do that. But when 176 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: you're supposed to be a first round pick and you 177 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: don't get drafted in the top three rounds, it's personal. 178 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: It's personal. This has nothing to do with fo what 179 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: has to be personal, but what you're gonna do about it, 180 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: because this is what happens. And you guys know this 181 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: because you guys were both first round picks. When you're 182 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 2: a first round pick, you have plenty of rope. You 183 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: get plenty of opportunity. You can fail and fail and fail, 184 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: and you still don't get opportunity. You go on the 185 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: fourth round. I mean you may get one or two chances. 186 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: You don't get as much leeway. And so now he's 187 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: gonna be putting a situation wherever he gets drafted, how 188 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: much opportunity in lee wan rope will he get? Very little? 189 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 2: You guys don't know that because you guys are first 190 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: round picks, and y'all may have come in and bald 191 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: right away, But when you are a late round pick, 192 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: it didn't matter. You were gonna start. They they already 193 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 2: knew Leavar Arrington is starting. It's just a matter of when, 194 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: not if anybody that's not a first round pick. Maybe, man, 195 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: you got a scratching claw. So now he has to 196 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: be perfect. You don't have room for error. And I 197 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: feel so bad for him in his family because when 198 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: you were he's a kid you he couldn't sleep last night. Man, 199 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: he's a young kid, bro, he couldn't he couldn't sleep 200 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: last night. He couldn't sleep last night. How hard it 201 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 2: was for him to sleep. And they they're they're saying 202 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: and they're doing the right thing. You know, you know 203 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: how stradden like. It's something you know when you're trying 204 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: to eat and you can't eat, you can't keep it down, 205 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: you're just forcing yourself to eat. You chewing and you 206 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 2: can't really swallow like that nervous energy. But you're in 207 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: this situation in a fighter, You're not gonna stand in 208 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 2: the corner. I'm fighting my way out that corner. And 209 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: that's what he's gonna have to do, because this is 210 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: a situation that he's in. The question everybody wants to 211 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: know is and what we ever get the answer is why? 212 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: M hmm. I think it's definitely a reality check. We 213 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 3: gotta we gotta take a break. We're gonna take a break, 214 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: but we're gonna keep the conversation going on. We're gonna 215 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: come back and we're gonna continue to to talk through this. Uh, 216 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 3: there was a draft outside of Shador Sanders, obviously, because 217 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 3: he hasn't even been drafted yet, so he hasn't even 218 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 3: really been a part of the draft, but yet he's 219 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: the biggest storyline out of the draft. We're gonna continue 220 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 3: to have that conversation. That's t J. Hutchman's Plexico burst. 221 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 3: I'm LeVar Arrington. This is up on Game and this 222 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 3: is Fox Sports Radio. We'll be right back listening. 223 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: To Fox Sports Radio. 224 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back into the show. This is up 225 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: on Game, Plexico burds, t J. Hushman's out of LeVar Arrington. Yeah, 226 00:13:54,760 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: we're gonna continue this conversation surrounding uh Chud Sanders and 227 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 3: not being drafted. It's like, I don't know, I you know, guys, 228 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: coming into it, I'm kind of a little conflicted on 229 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 3: us having such an in depth conversation about it because 230 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: I feel like the media has is partly to blame 231 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 3: for all of this, and and there's so much to 232 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: be discussed. But I ultimately feel like, and let me 233 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: throw this one out at you guys, because I have 234 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: I have my thoughts on this, but I'm gonna let 235 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: y'all kind of, you know, get it out of y'all's 236 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: y'all system as well. But let me throw this one 237 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: out at you. I know, we talked about he was 238 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: Shador Sanders, a highly rated guy that you know, being 239 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: projected to go, you know, in the first round. And 240 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 3: you know, the ultimate question I kept coming back to 241 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: is from who I think you got to answer that? 242 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: Like that to me is a question that it's like, Okay, 243 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: the media has said that the media has anointed Shador 244 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: Sanders as a top draft pick. Can we think of 245 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 3: like in general, when you hear of top guys and 246 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: when they're going to go in the draft and how 247 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: they're being projected, a lot of times you will hear 248 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: things that kind of confirm from teams that this is 249 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: how you know, the GMS or the scouts feel about 250 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: this prospect. I can't say I heard that about Shador. 251 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 3: In fact, it was the opposite. I've heard. I've heard 252 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: a lot of things surface from the teams and from 253 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: the franchises that were negatively speaking on Shador, whether it 254 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: be because of his dad, whether it be because of 255 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: the way they feel he played. But I didn't hear 256 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: the confirmation. Then I did the Draft show this past Thursday, 257 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: and I was with Jay Glazer and Jay said, listen, 258 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: I hit Shador in the family up and told them, 259 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: you know, don't don't have any cameras there because you're 260 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: not on any team's first first day ticker, which means 261 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: that people already knew that were really really close to it, 262 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 3: They already knew he wasn't going to go in the 263 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: first round. So I would ask you, guys, you know, 264 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 3: is that a legit? Is that a fair question to have? 265 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: Is there a chance that the media created an expectation 266 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: that is connected to Shador Sanders and that was an 267 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: undoing in terms of why things were, you know, possibly 268 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: panning out the way that they were panning out. 269 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 4: Listen, I don't think that the media created any expectations 270 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 4: about Shador and and where he was supposed to be drafted. 271 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: Can you not. 272 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: Agree that the college seasons or career that he had 273 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 4: confirmed that he was one of the best quarterbacks in 274 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 4: college football? 275 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: Can we not say that? 276 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: I say, I'll say this, I don't know that that's 277 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: a fair accurate readout in terms of so. 278 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 4: So so, what do we be seen getting picked that 279 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 4: If we're not judging or evaluating the performance of a player, 280 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 4: then how. 281 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: Do you where do you get drafted? 282 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 3: How do you get drafts based off well, I do 283 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: think it's based off of that. But you can have 284 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 3: guys that have won like, for instance, I give you 285 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: a great example. Who was the quarterback at hold On 286 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 3: hold On You asked. 287 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 2: Me, answer you, Yeah. 288 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: If you take the quarterback from Ohio State that won 289 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: the Heisman, wasn't that Troy was it Troy? I'm Smith. 290 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 3: Troy Smith wasn't a highly rated guy coming into the draft, 291 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 3: but he was certainly looked at as one of the 292 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 3: top players and in college football he won the Heisman, 293 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 3: he won the most coveted award. 294 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: We know how that goes. 295 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 4: Every hero that goes to the neation level is not 296 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 4: a great a professional football player. 297 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: So and so correct. So to answer your question, when 298 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 3: you're looking at these players and you're ranking these players, 299 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 3: and if it's by you know, what their success has 300 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: been at the college level, that doesn't necessarily translate to 301 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: the scouts that this is going to be a guy 302 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 3: that we want to spend the first round draft people. 303 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: Oh oh, that would just be my response to that question. 304 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 4: What I'm trying to say is, if you take all 305 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 4: of these quarterbacks that are coming out this year in 306 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 4: the NFL draft, can you not say that he is 307 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 4: one of the top two or three quarterbacks in this draft. 308 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: I would say that you can say that. 309 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 4: So if it's not based on him being able to 310 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 4: play the game of football, then what is it? Just 311 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 4: like TJ said, I believe it's personal. If you're getting 312 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 4: to this point day three, I. 313 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: Believe it's getting personal. 314 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 4: And what they're basically saying is what they're basically saying, 315 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 4: is that that telling him personally, if you don't want 316 00:18:54,640 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 4: to humble yourself, we will. That's what I believe they're 317 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 4: saying that if you don't want to humble yourself, Okay, 318 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 4: we don't believe that you are that good of a 319 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 4: player in all thirty two teams that we have to 320 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 4: put us your door Sanders on our roster. We don't 321 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 4: have to hapish your door Sanders on our team. So 322 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 4: now I believe that it's personal, and now it's becoming 323 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 4: a distraction. So now when he does get drafted to 324 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 4: that team, the whole talk about Shador Sanders being drafted 325 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 4: now is why did you take them? And I want 326 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 4: to see what the response is going to be from 327 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 4: that head coach or organization if he does. 328 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: Get drafted that they don't have to pick him. 329 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 4: But when he does gets drafted, the question is going 330 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 4: to be, why did you draft Shador Sanders? 331 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 3: I mean, does he get drafted, does he get drafted? 332 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: Does he get drafted? He does get drafted, he'll be drafted. 333 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: This is the thing, man, All the experts, everybody that's 334 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: been doing this or before we played, all the experts, 335 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: the Male Kuipers of the world, the t j a 336 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: to the world, the Todd Mishades of the world, the 337 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah's of the world. They all hashiaw Derrick Sanders 338 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 2: the first round pick, every last one of them. 339 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: But they've been wrong before. 340 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 2: Listen, listen, levard listen. You can be wrong with a 341 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 2: guy going in the top ten. When you have somebody 342 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: as a first round pick, you may not go where 343 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 2: they have you, but you're gonna go in the first round. 344 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: The majority of it. These dudes have been doing this 345 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: before we were playing, and they're still doing it. 346 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 3: I get it. So to me, but you know the 347 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 3: pre draft reports. 348 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 2: Did you hear the pre draft for you never hear 349 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: anything come. 350 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 3: You've never heard anything come from the from the organizations. 351 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 3: That's you think about it, because la. 352 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 2: Far you never do far, you never do Yes, you 353 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 2: do where? 354 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: What do you mean where? You will hear it from 355 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 3: a GM. You will hear it from a GM. This 356 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 3: is a generational talent. We're we're going to do all 357 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: we can to get a hold of that place. It does. 358 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: That happens every year, That happens all the time, TJ. 359 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: You heard him coaches pretty much said. You heard the 360 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 2: coach say pretty much same thing. Sheder Sanders is a 361 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: good quarterback. He's thissy. They're never going to say a guy, oh, 362 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: he's a first round pick. This is all I'm saying. 363 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: Is this. The reports that came out prior to the 364 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 2: draft of his meetings at the Combine, his interactions at 365 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: the Combine, they didn't like him. They were some of 366 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 2: the worst meetings they had been involved. He he was 367 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 2: overly confident, borderline cocky, and we had discussions about that. 368 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: You know, if my confidence makes you feel a certain way, 369 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: you insecure. Well, obviously those meetings rubbed a lot of 370 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: people the wrong way. Those meetings, his interactions, those interactions 371 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: rubbed people the wrong way because it's very very rare 372 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: that a guy is supposed to be a first round 373 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: pick and here we are in Round four, pick oneh 374 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: eight and he still hasn't been picked. 375 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 3: At best. 376 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: We've never seen anything like this unless a kid has 377 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: had some issues prior to the draft. Oh you guys 378 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: recall when somebody it was years ago, who was it 379 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 2: was a possible murder suspect. Unless it's something like that, 380 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 2: you're not getting drafted. We sud is. Could it be 381 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: there that they don't want all the cameras around, They 382 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 2: don't want the circus that comes with it, all the cameras, 383 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: all of this, And are they sending a message. That's 384 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: the only thing I can think of because on the field, 385 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: on the field, on the field, his play said I 386 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: should be drafted in the first round on the field, 387 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: right off the field. 388 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take it a step further. The Carolina Panthers, 389 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 4: I will say, the Minnesota Vikings and the New England Patriots. 390 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 4: If you were to add Shador Sanders to one of 391 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 4: those teams, he might be the best quarterback on your roster. 392 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 3: Might be it might be. All Here's what I'm gonna say. 393 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 3: Bottom line, talent talks, BS runs marathons, fellas Hey talent marathons, TJ. 394 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 4: Have you seen JJ McCarthy piss down in the NFL 395 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 4: never Okay, So how can you say that JJ McCarthy's 396 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 4: a better quarterback than Shu Door centers because we don't 397 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 4: keeps draft in the fir We don't know, but we 398 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 4: don't know if you ain't never seen him play, and 399 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 4: we ain't seen Shador Sanders play. 400 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 2: No, all I. 401 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: Would say is Deon Sanders if y'all want to talk 402 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 3: about all of the confidence and this, that and the other, 403 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: and this might be why they don't want the circus 404 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: and Deon Sanders is probably considered to be the most 405 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 3: flamboyant player that has ever played this game ever, ever, 406 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: and that man still went fifth overall. You know what 407 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 3: he did, He ran his forty at his at his 408 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: pro day and rolled out to go play baseball. Rolled 409 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: out to go play baseball. If by, if by, if 410 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 3: by the way you guys standard of what you guys 411 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 3: are putting out there, Deon Sanders should have been in 412 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 3: the same situation that Shador is in right now. But 413 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: he's not because because talent, talent is the bottom line. 414 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: Talent talks and BS runs marathons. If Shad Door Sanders, 415 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 3: let me. 416 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: Let me, let me let me your point is wrong. 417 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: Your point is wrong. Okay, Sanders was a defensive backs 418 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: is a quarterback? It does matter. It's a different ball 419 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: game when you it does matter. Your quarterback has to 420 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 2: be different. And you know it and we all know it. 421 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 3: I know the quarterback position has to be quarterback as differently. 422 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 3: I understand what's different. But you're still we're still talking 423 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 3: about a prospect. We're still talking about a prospect and. 424 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 2: Looking back and a prospect that's a quarterback. 425 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 3: Y'all never said one time. So so you're so you're 426 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 3: picking and choosing when you want to qualify things because 427 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 3: you haven't said quarterback one time until just now. You 428 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: did not say quarterback one time until just now. 429 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 2: Quarterback? 430 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: But how did you say it now? We don't have 431 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 3: to use that as a qualified We don't have to 432 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 3: use it as a qualifier. You said us guys, me 433 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 3: and Plexico, they go day one, we're not quarterbacks either. 434 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 3: We're not quarterbacks either. 435 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 2: You're going to be fund gets, more leeway, more rope. 436 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 3: We are going to be measured and judged off of 437 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 3: the value that you bring to a team and what 438 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 3: their their their work and their homework is and their 439 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 3: information is on that prospect. Doesn't matter what your position is. 440 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 3: If you're a degenerate, if you're if you're someone who's 441 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 3: going to be in trouble, it does not matter what 442 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 3: your position is. You are not going to get drafted. 443 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: They're not going to get drafted. You're not going to 444 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: get drafted. It does matter the quarterbacks position. Not debating 445 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: with you, guys, is not It's not. It is a 446 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 3: more important position. I am not debating that as a prospect. 447 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 3: What you do as a prospect is all the same. 448 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 2: It's all saying quarterback, you're a quarterback. It matters. 449 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 3: The bottom line is if he was a talent, if 450 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 3: he was a talent at the level of his father, 451 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 3: of his dad, We're not having this conversation. We're not 452 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: having how. 453 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 4: Many people and and and and in the whole two 454 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 4: hundred years national football, how many players have been deon Sanders. 455 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 3: All I'm gonna say is Travis Hunter is just as confident, 456 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 3: if not the same, as Shador Sanders. Same amount of attention, 457 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 3: same amount of coverage, same school, same coach. So how 458 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 3: is that. 459 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 2: Travis Hunter is more He's more reserved Thaners. He's part 460 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 2: of that. 461 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 3: Team he's got, he is at he's he is. 462 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: A little more reserved. Come on, man, it's is a 463 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 2: little more reserved. 464 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 3: All I'm gonna say is is y'all y'all tripping right now. 465 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 3: That man is out there. That man is out there 466 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 3: in the social media doing his dances, doing the celebrations, 467 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 3: the way he speaks on his game. It's not a 468 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 3: bad thing. Like it's not that it's a derogatory thing. 469 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:20,239 Speaker 2: It's not. 470 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 3: I don't I don't understand why y'all were watching, Because 471 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 3: we are watching. 472 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 4: We are watching teams draft quarterbacks who are not better 473 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 4: plays correct than. 474 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: Saying hold on, it's gonna matter the team needs. 475 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 3: Cam Ward was not even a top ten. 476 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 4: Rating because he had a phenomenal season last year. He 477 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 4: had a number one at Miami exactly. I don't season. 478 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 4: I guess that's what makes things work. 479 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: Cam going the nurse one ticker. 480 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 4: As a quarterback, you're drafted off of your collegiate performance. 481 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 4: Nothing they're gonna be contributing factors to you being drafted. 482 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 4: But cam Ward and should Door Sanders almost had identical stats. 483 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 4: Cam Ward is drafted off having a phenomenal senior college 484 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 4: season period point blank, Who. 485 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: Was the second best quarterback in the draft. 486 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 4: Should sand us from a performance standpoint, he was the 487 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 4: second best quarterback in college football? 488 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 3: People would debate that period Jackson dark off. 489 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 4: Of performance and statistics, he was the best, second best 490 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 4: quarterback in the draft period point blank. 491 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: All I know is all I know is this all 492 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 3: the screens he went from. 493 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 4: Being possibly the number one quarterback being taken off the board. 494 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 3: Y'all, y'all have yourselves in the position of all these 495 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 3: other media people that are approaching this situation the way 496 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 3: that they're approaching this situation. I'm not void of. 497 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: I went straight from the draft to basketball. 498 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 3: Mean, the perpetuation of why the Shador Sanders has fallen 499 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 3: in the draft is crazy to me. People are crashing 500 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 3: out over it, and they can be upset and disappointed, but. 501 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 2: You're basically you're that's what you're saying. 502 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 3: What I'm saying, if he was, he would get drafted. 503 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: If he was, he would get drafted. Like all this 504 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: compared co conspiracy theories connected to all of this and the. 505 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 4: Media and all these plenty of young men that have 506 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 4: been drafted into. 507 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: This league that we know of that didn't deserve to 508 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 2: be drafted. Oh of our I mean you were drafted 509 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: the two thousand or two thousand, where. 510 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 4: You drafted two thousand and they were they were based 511 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 4: off of things that what performance based. 512 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: Plex What year were you drafted in two thousand, same 513 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: year ninety two thousand. Okay, So you guys having that 514 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: since been involved in the NFL twenty six years. Okay, Now, 515 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: when is another time you can call this situation? When 516 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: when's the last time you call the situation? 517 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 3: Has Deon Sanders as a dad. Here's no time, there's 518 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 3: no time to read to recall it. I don't know. 519 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 3: I've never heard of a prospect. I didn't have to 520 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 3: do it say that as never. I've never heard of 521 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 3: it for anyone, like whether it turned out they went 522 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: number one overall or didn't get drafted at all. I mean, 523 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 3: I know, I know that. I mean in terms of 524 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 3: the coverage of the prospect, because there have been famous 525 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 3: players that have their kids going into the draft, but 526 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: it's never been as publicized as this. Their their daddy 527 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 3: didn't coach them the entire way through through you know, 528 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 3: their entire career. It's never happened. It's not even a 529 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,719 Speaker 3: comp there's no comp to this. 530 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna take it a step further. 531 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 4: So you think that now Deon Sanders may change his 532 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 4: tune of exploring the opportunity of being an NFL. 533 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: Here the NFL. 534 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 3: Here's what we're gonna do. 535 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: We're gonna. 536 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 3: We're gonna continue the conversation because it's not over. It's 537 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 3: not it's the conversation isn't over yet. So let's let's 538 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 3: we'll put a cap on it. But this segment is 539 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 3: and and, but before it is, you know, the person 540 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 3: that gets the mic drop is mister Isaac Longing. Let's 541 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 3: get an update. Let's get a trip trip from I low. 542 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 5: Nine picks into round four of the NFL draft, Shador 543 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 5: Sanders still yet to be selected. Round four began with 544 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 5: the Tennessee Titans drafting Florida receiver Chim Ray dk. Then 545 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 5: the Jacksonville Jaguars selected Virginia Tech running. 546 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 3: Back basevill You drafted a quarterback, allow, I'm sorry, you 547 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 3: said a quarterback? 548 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: Who Florida? Oh, I'm sorry Tennessee. 549 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 5: Yes, Tennessee drafted Florida receiver Chim Ray DKA. 550 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry about that. No quarterbacks so far, right. 551 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: No quarterbacks yet? 552 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 5: In round four, then with the one hundred and fifth 553 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 5: overall pick, the New York Giants drafted Arizona State running 554 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 5: back Cam Skataboo. 555 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 3: He goes to the New York Giants. 556 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 5: The New England Patriots then selected Cal safety Craig Woodson. 557 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 5: The Jacksonville Jaguars then drafted Notre Dame linebacker Jack Kaiser. 558 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 5: And how's this for trivia, It's the first time that 559 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 5: Jacksonville has ever drafted someone named Jack. Then the Las 560 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 5: Vegas Raiders selected Tennessee receiver Dante Thornton Junior. The Buffalo 561 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 5: Bills draft in Kentucky defensive tackle Dion Walker. The Jets 562 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 5: selected Georgia receiver Arian Smith. The Philadelphia Eagles, the defending 563 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 5: Super Bowl champions, drafted Nebraska defensive tackle Ty Robinson, And 564 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 5: moments ago at one hundred and twelve overall, that Saints 565 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 5: selected Oklahoma linebacker Danny Stutzman. Right now, the San Francisco 566 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 5: forty nine ers are on the clock with the one 567 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 5: hundred and thirteenth overall pick in the fourth round. Today's 568 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 5: NBA Playoff action tips off at the top of the 569 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 5: hour Game three from Miami, with the Cleveland Cavaliers leading 570 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 5: the heat two games to none. 571 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 3: Guys back to you. All right, we're gonna take a 572 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 3: quick break. We're gonna come back, and we're gonna button 573 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 3: this up at the you know this this hour. Yeah, 574 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 3: it's a conversation. I can provide my perspective on it 575 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 3: and close it up at the end of this if 576 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 3: y'all want to. But if y'all want to scream at 577 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 3: me and cut me off, I'll just let y'all finish 578 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 3: it off. But we'll see how that goes. On the 579 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 3: other side of this break, I get bullied. I get 580 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 3: bullied by riot receivers. It's racial, y'all. This is Fox 581 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 3: Sports Ring. Yeah, up all game. 582 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: T J. 583 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 3: Hutchman's out of Plexico Burds. I'm getting jumped by the 584 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 3: superheroes today, by the super Friends. 585 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 2: I'm LeVar. 586 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 3: We'll be right back. 587 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in nation. 588 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio dot com 589 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. 590 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back into the Show's up on games. TJ. 591 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 3: Huschman's Eyes Plexicoburs. It's LeVar Arrington. Be sure to check 592 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 3: out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. 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I don't. 611 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you. The longer it takes, 612 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 3: the longer the further it's going out. There's the chance 613 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 3: that he may go undrafted fellas I I'm just being 614 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 3: on reality. 615 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: Hey man, I was a late round pick. Excuse me. 616 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 2: At this point you almost got to be perfect anyway. 617 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 2: But you almost have to be perfect anyway, so drafted 618 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 2: under it, don't you gotta be perfect your lee way, 619 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 2: and the amount of opportunities you're gonna get will be 620 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 2: very very small. This is what I will say, is 621 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 2: this at this point, should there Sandersy just look in 622 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 2: the mirror and recall all his interactions with these teams 623 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 2: and whatever you felt like? I probably should. They're sending 624 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 2: a message. The meetings we had with you we didn't like. 625 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 2: You thought that report was BS. No, we didn't like 626 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 2: those meetings, and you thought those meetings didn't matter. You 627 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 2: probably didn't take them as serious as you should have. 628 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but a message is 629 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 2: being sent. It's like I said earlier, Man, this the NFL, man, 630 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 2: they don't care who is in it. The show going 631 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 2: on with. 632 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 3: The without you, they don't care final work. 633 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 4: I think that the over line, the overland thing of 634 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 4: the whole matter is everybody's forgetting one thing. They don't 635 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 4: have to draft them. They don't have to do anything. 636 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 4: Just like you say, he may not be drafted. So 637 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 4: what messages that sin to Shador and you know, everybody 638 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,720 Speaker 4: else and all these young men coming out of college 639 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 4: and nobody has to sign them to an NFL team. 640 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 4: They may even take it to that extent. But I hope, 641 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 4: you know, moving forward, for him, he will get an 642 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 4: opportunity to play at the next level. But there's no 643 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 4: guarantee that any team has to draft or sign of 644 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 4: Shador Sanders. 645 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna say this. As much as I 646 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 3: love and respect Prime, I'm just not going to misrepresent 647 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 3: myself in this situation. You know, I believe there is 648 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 3: a deeper reason for Shador still being undrafted. I really do. 649 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 3: But the narrative. But the narrative nonetheless plays out every year, 650 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 3: and that's what happens, and just this time, it happened 651 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 3: to the son of one of the greatest football players 652 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 3: and athletes of all time. I think that's the only 653 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 3: difference there is that it happened to one of the 654 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 3: most high profile, most celebrated players and athletes in the 655 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 3: history of all sport. That's what it is. And I'm 656 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 3: with you TJ on this. We can agree on this. 657 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 3: If you get your opportunity, make it work. Make it work. 658 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 3: You gotta be perfect. I mean, you're more likely to 659 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 3: get struck by lightning than you are to get drafted 660 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 3: or play in the National Football League. That is a 661 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 3: true stat You are more likely to win the lottery 662 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 3: than to make it into the National Football League and 663 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 3: play in the National Football League. That is a true stat. So, 664 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 3: no matter how you get there, if you get an 665 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 3: opportunity to play in the National Football League and make 666 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 3: money and that's your dream and that's what you want 667 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 3: to do, and you get that opportunity to land on 668 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 3: a roster, don't take any malice. Just take take that 669 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 3: pain that you feel when you eat and couldn't sleep 670 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 3: and you felt like they didn't do you right. Take 671 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 3: that and you use that as the ultimate motivation to 672 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 3: be the best that you can possibly be. That's really 673 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 3: the only advice I can offer to Shador And knowing 674 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 3: that this is the situation that he's incause no matter 675 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 3: how outraged people get or whatever it is, the bottom 676 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 3: line remains is that he hasn't been drafted yet, and 677 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 3: whatever his situation is going to be, it's going to 678 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 3: be his situation and he's going to have to get 679 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 3: out of it. This is up on Game. It's TJ. 680 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 3: Huschman Zada, It's Plechko Burst. Hour two is coming up 681 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 3: at you Cuffs. The Legend will be joining the show. 682 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 3: We're gonna talk basketball, hopefully lighten up the mood of 683 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 3: the show. Stay locked in Fox Sports Radio.