1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: What's up everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. DJ. Buck 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: back with you. Buck. First of all, I need a 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: score update. Granada Hills Charter. We had week one head 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: coach Bucky Brooks. Are we on the W side of 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 2: the L side right now? 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 3: Well, we somehow found our way to the W side, 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 3: so that was good. We won twenty two to seven. 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 3: Had a bunch of kids play really really well, play hard, 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 3: so we're able. 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: To get into the wing. 12 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: Colin and I love that. Yeah, it was great seeing 13 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: a bunch of good kids playing hard and kind of 14 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: doing the right things, and they were rewarded for all 15 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 3: the work they put in. But it doesn't get easier 16 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 3: because the schedule is hard, and so we just kind 17 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: of see what it looks like. But at least for 18 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 3: the opener, like man, it was great just to see 19 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 3: kind of the good guys quote unquote win. 20 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 2: So I'm curious on this one. We've seen the transfer 21 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: portal kind of transform college football over the last couple 22 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: of years, massive, massive movement. I know that. You know, obviously, 23 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: transferring in high school is nothing new. It's been going 24 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: on long before the Prince reportal came around. But in 25 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: this where the transferportal is kind of and everybody's conscious 26 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: or subconscious, maybe have you seen more high school movement 27 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: now or is it the same as it's been. 28 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: No, I mean the last ten years has been kind 29 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: of crazy, like people are leaving, Like you know, they 30 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: used to change the rules to make it where you 31 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 3: couldn't leave for athletic purposes and valid reason change of 32 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: address you move or whatever. 33 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: But and people were kind of working. 34 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: Away around the rules by moving to the location so 35 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: they could transfer to kids to play certain things. And 36 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: it is worrisome that you have so many people that 37 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: transfer and bounce around, and guys go to four different 38 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 3: high schools or people start at a good spot, they 39 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: kind of build their brand and their name up at 40 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: a spot, and then their senior year they leave to 41 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 3: go to the powerhouse high school in the area. And 42 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean, I look, I think we 43 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: all grow up kind of like the Friday Night Likes experience, right, 44 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: So it's about your neighborhood, the team, your buddies, the band, 45 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: all that other stuff. And it's changed. And I don't 46 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: begrudge people for taking advantage of the opportunities. I would 47 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: just say that it changes that dynamic and the way 48 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: that we evaluate like high school coaches and those things like, Man, 49 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: it's a lot different when you're coaching, I would say 50 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: the loaded roster with the kids who've played since they 51 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: were seven, who are at the five stars or whatever, 52 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: as opposed to, hey, man, we just are at this 53 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 3: high school and whoever shows up, we're gonna find a 54 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 3: way to figure it out. It's just a different thing, 55 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: and you just hope that you can level the playing 56 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 3: field where you're playing against. I would say like composed 57 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: teams as opposed to like some of the all star 58 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: teams that are out there. 59 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: But this is a different time. 60 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: I love high school football though regardless of how it 61 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 3: was composed. The games were all on over the course 62 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: of the weekend. Watch them all. I love the experience 63 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: because that's gonna be the last time that a lot 64 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 3: of kids kind of suit up and play this game. 65 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: Because football is different where you can't play beyond high school, 66 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: even reckball, you can't really play coco football recreationally after 67 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: high school. But it's different sometimes looking at like those 68 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 3: those football factories and looking at like the Johnny high 69 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: school teams that are kind of bad land and kind 70 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: of playing against their other neighborhood schools. 71 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm more of a fan of that. There's something about, 72 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: you know, I've gone to school this kid since kindergarten. 73 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: I've been to his house, he's been to my house, 74 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: you know, and we go out there and compete against 75 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: other kids. I think that that's something that's pure about 76 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: that that I do. I do mess is that's kind 77 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: of changed a lot around the high school landscape. Today 78 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: on the show, we are going to We're going to 79 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: get to some of these teams in the NFL that 80 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: have decisions to make at quarterback. We're going to really 81 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: kind of focus in on those rookies, not only you know, 82 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: when we see him, but it is at the right 83 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: time now or would some of these teams be be 84 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: wise to be a little bit patient here? And is 85 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: winning the job? Is being the best player at the position? 86 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: Should that be the only requirement for being named the starter? 87 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: So we're going to get into that conversation in just 88 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: a little bit. But we did have meaningful games on 89 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: the college side, including an interesting matchup and upset with 90 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: Georgia Tech taking down Florida State. Just your first impressions. 91 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: Nice to have the college football season back. But what 92 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 2: you thought from that game? 93 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: Okay, first thing that stood out? Why are Florida State 94 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: and Georgia Tech playing in Ireland? Like the one thing 95 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: I couldn't understand. I was like, well, what's the connection? 96 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: What's the thing? 97 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: DJ? 98 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 3: You know this because like we're doing a podcast back then, 99 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: I think twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, you're. 100 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: Going to Georgia O'Leary, is that where you're going back to? No. 101 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 3: I was coaching at Notre Dame High School in Sherman 102 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: Oaks and we were part of the Shamrock series where 103 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 3: Notre Dame played Navy in Ireland. 104 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, And there were. 105 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: A series of teams, high school teams that played over 106 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: in Ireland. We played Hamilton from Arizona over there and 107 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 3: played and so the connection was like, hey, you have 108 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: these all these athletic schools playing. 109 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: Notre Dame is playing Navy. 110 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: I couldn't understand the connections between Florida State and Georgia 111 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: Tech and what was the driving force behind those two 112 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: universities going over the water to play in Ireland. But 113 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: it was great to watch. I would say I was 114 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: surprised in terms of watching Georgia Tech. Came away really 115 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: impressed with Brent Key's team and just the physicality and 116 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: the toughness and what they did. But DJ, I do 117 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: wonder because Florida State was so good, taking so many 118 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: transfers and kind of lumping them together and having kind 119 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: of like an instant title contender. I wanted that's a 120 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: sustainable model because looking at this team, they didn't overwhelm 121 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: Georgia Tech. Like a number ten team in the country 122 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: is expected to overwhelm a team that is unranked. 123 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, you look at Florida State, the talent they have, 124 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: the defensive line that they have. At the end of 125 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: the day, if your quarterback's not playing well, it's a 126 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: great equalizer. And Georgia Tech. The quarterback came over from 127 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: A and M he was like a five star kid. 128 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: Wasn't like a four or five star kid. Heyes, King, 129 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 130 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: I did not know that. I didn't know he was 131 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: a four or five star kid. 132 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he was a good player, like talented player, 133 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: and he played his butt off. He ran made plays. 134 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: They just clearly he kind of just clearly outplayed DJ 135 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: you in that one. So I think that's one thing 136 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: to keep an eye on with the you know, with 137 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: the transfer portal, that's great you can have, you can 138 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 2: stack your roster, but at the end of the day, 139 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: quarterbacks to silk the side a lot of these ball games, man, 140 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: And that was a decided edge I thought in that 141 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: one at Georgia Tech. Yeah. 142 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: No, it's so it's funny because that that game was 143 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: on and you talked about like Florida State and they 144 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: have an opportunity to kind of get back in because 145 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: the saving graces now that you have the twelve team playoff, 146 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: you can work your way back into a situation to 147 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: do it. And so that game was on. But then 148 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: I had an opportunity to look at some of the 149 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: other games. Montana State took on University of New Mexico. I mean, 150 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 3: I forgot that Bronco Minnenhall was back his team up 151 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: and they were rolling, and they were up by like 152 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: two three tesdowns and lost because Montana State came back 153 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: and snatched them up in the fourth quarter. So I 154 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: had a chance to watch that game. I watched McNee 155 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: State take on Tarlington State, and so. 156 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: What I've always played Baylor next week. So my son 157 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: is at Baylor in the recruiting part. He was scouting. 158 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: He was watching that game. 159 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: But DJ so they have a twenty four team playoff. 160 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: When you think about the FCS schools and so, that 161 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: is always fun. It's always been fun for me to 162 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: watch that. But I will say this, I would never 163 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: skelt you one of those teams. I would not schedules 164 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: one team because it's a lose lose proposition for you. 165 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 3: If you're the big team, if you beat them, everyone 166 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: says you're supposed to beat them, you get no credit 167 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: for it. But if you play one of those good 168 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: teams like a Montana State that's always been in it, 169 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: like Prime is about to play North Dakota State. 170 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: Hey, that idea, don't play those it's a it's just 171 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: a bad idea to take on those squads because they're 172 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: good enough to beat you, but not good enough for 173 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: you to get credit for beating them. 174 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: There's not a lot in it for you when you 175 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: take on those teams. 176 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it was Matt Ruhle right who said 177 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: when he first got there, he talked to the athletic 178 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: tractor and said, I don't want to play any Dakota. 179 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: I don't care if they got Dakota in their name, 180 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: take them off. I don't want to play them. I 181 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: thought that was kind of funny. Again, I always felt 182 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: that way, like App State, Like, trust me, I've already 183 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: looked ahead to the schedule with app and fuck, I mean, 184 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna lay low because I got we're better when 185 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: we sneak up on people. But you realize that Clemson 186 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: plays Georgia week one and then they played app like 187 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: you could not like from the App side of things, 188 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 2: you could not script it any better than that, Like sitting. 189 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 3: There waiting, Oh yeah, you're waiting because no matter what 190 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: happens in that game, if Clemson knocks off Georgia, the emotional. 191 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: It's a dream. Yeah. 192 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: When they show up against like they like, it's gonna 193 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 3: be tough, and if they get whooped by Georgia, just like, 194 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: hey man, we got to get up. 195 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: How are we gonna focus? Like, yes, right, Georgia beats 196 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 2: you up? 197 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 3: So Apple State can not your That is not Please 198 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 3: tell me it's not an app. 199 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: Please tell me they're not coming up. We'll go down 200 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 2: the hill. We'll go down the hill of coorse. 201 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 4: You mean they're not coming to here like the Tarrio's 202 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 4: came up to Hill. I thought you told me no, no, 203 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 4: I know, I know we did a home with the targets. 204 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 4: You guys were you guys were gems on that. You 205 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 4: guys were sports. We want to Hey come up there 206 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 4: and they had the epic games. They're great games. Didn 207 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 4: Miami come up there? Did Miami come up with somebody? 208 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: Miami came up there? That was the first one we 209 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: got to come up there. That didn't end as well. Yeah, 210 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: but that's that's awesome. But again though, I think that 211 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: I think when they come up there, that juices them 212 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: up a little bit, like because it kind of tilts 213 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: towards app you know, like you got that's you're going 214 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: into their territory like we no, no, no, Now, we'd 215 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 2: like to be on the road. Come in there, sneak 216 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 2: in the back door and grab our win and get 217 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: out of there before anybody knows what happened. H But 218 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: I was talking to some buddies that have been on 219 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: some school visits, and so I was curious about some 220 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: of the you know, college teams they were looking at. 221 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: So one of which was Michigan and they said, look, dude, 222 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: these two d tackles are both first round picks. The 223 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: corner is the first round pick, the tight end is 224 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: really good. So I thought that was interesting, Like from 225 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: the perceived drop off, that's there. And I got they 226 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: got some offensive line, you know stuff They've got to 227 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: get figured out, replacing a lot of guys, but they 228 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: are still a big, physical, rugged team, especially on the 229 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball. And then then Penn State. 230 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 2: I feel like I hear the same thing every year, 231 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: like they got they got athletes all over the place. 232 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: They got dudes. 233 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: Man, yes, I mean they they do have those people. 234 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: And with this week being kind of like the official 235 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: kickoff to the weekend, with all the good games that 236 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: we're going to see and how everyone is loaded up, 237 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: I am excited to see some of these top dudes, 238 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: the names that you hear about, I'm excited to see 239 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: them in action. So it should be a lot of 240 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 3: It should be a lot of fun to watch to 241 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 3: watch those squads get down. We talked about Georgia and Clemson, 242 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: to see them get down to see you know, it's funny, DJ. 243 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: I know people talk about Georgia, but it's almost like 244 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 3: out of sight, out of mind because they weren't in 245 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: the playoff and they're like a point away from deserving 246 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: to be in the playoff, and some would say they 247 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: should have been in the playoff. 248 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 2: Yeh oh, Kirby smart. I know Kirby has got them. 249 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: I know everybody's everybody's talking about Ohio State because all 250 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: the money that they spent and this is going to be, 251 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 2: you know, record number of draft picks, and they're stacked. 252 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: I talked to a buddy who went through Georgia and said, 253 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: they have This is not an exaggeration. This is going 254 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: to sound stupid. He said, they have thirteen offensive linemen 255 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 2: that could start anywhere in the SEC. I said, excuse me, 256 00:11:52,480 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: the thirteen thirteen of them, Like holy moly. So like, well, 257 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: they're gonna be okay, don't don't worry about old Georgia, 258 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: Good old Georgia. They're gonna be just fine. Yeah, Georgia, 259 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 2: and I know there's gade was brutal, but I was 260 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: kind of looking at that. I saw it. I think 261 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: they were talking about on game day. Uh, you know, 262 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: they've got to go here, They've got to go there. 263 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: They've got to go to Bama. I think they have 264 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: to go to Texas, they have to go to Old 265 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: miss And I'm like, yeah, but when you're Georgia, I 266 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: don't think it's It's like, you know, it's the the show, 267 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: what was the show Breaking Bad or whatever when the 268 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: white I'm worried. I'm worried somebody's gonna come and knock 269 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 2: on the door. And he's like, I am the one 270 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,599 Speaker 2: who knocks. I'm like, yeah, that ain't that. Ain't like 271 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: Georgia's tripping and having to go and tell you those teams. 272 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 2: So I don't think they're worried about that. They'll be okay, 273 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: it's not losing any sleep on now. Yeah, yeah, we don't. 274 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: We ain't worried about him knocking on outdoor. 275 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: Knocking. That's exactly the truth. Man. All right, let's take 276 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: a quick break. We'll come back. Well, we'll switch gears. 277 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: We'll get over the NFL and and some of these 278 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: quarterback decisions and what we think of him right after this, 279 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,239 Speaker 2: All right, Buck, I was looking at these ricky quarterbacks. 280 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: If we look at it right now, Caleb Williams starter, 281 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels named the starter. JJ McCarthy is out for 282 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 2: the year. Bo Nicks named the starter. So those are 283 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: some of the things that we know now. Michael Pennix, 284 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: you know, not planning right now to be the starter 285 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: with Kirk Cousins, and you've got Drake may with a 286 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: decision to be made. Which was it? I want to 287 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: start there because Coach Mayo made the comments that I 288 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: believe this were attributed to him, that you know, hey, 289 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: he's played better, But there's more that goes into the 290 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: calculus of making this decision. They would have a decision 291 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 2: that sounded like by the end of the week of 292 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: what they're going to do there with him and Jacoby Brissette. 293 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: So I'll just ask you plainly, Buck, you're in charge, 294 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: you're Girod Mayo. Who are you trotting out there? Week one? 295 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: It's funny, DJ, because you know how we feel about this. 296 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: We feel about young guys sitting down and doing it, 297 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 3: particularly with Jay's lack of experience in terms of college starts. 298 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 3: I would normally say, hey, man, Jacoby Ssett put him 299 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 3: out there, But DJ, Jacoby Rissett has left the door 300 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 3: so wide opened that I just have a hard time 301 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 3: standing in front of the team and saying, hey, guys, 302 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: Jacoby verse gives us the best chance to win right now, 303 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 3: Like he just hasn't played well enough for me to 304 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: stand there and keep my credibility with the team. And 305 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: so normally if it's closed, he goes to the young guy, 306 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: And so we would have to sit down and figure 307 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: out how can we put Drake May in and protect 308 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: them in these circumstances where he's not fully prepared to 309 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: play in the pros. I think you have to play him. 310 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it's no different than playing Anthony 311 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: Brigson a season ago when you're the Indianapolis Goals. But 312 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: right now, if I'm the Patriots, I think you have 313 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: to handle ball to Drake May and just kind of. 314 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: Figure out a way to win with it. Yeah, I 315 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: don't know that I've I might have just totally flip 316 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: flopped on this because I've said it multiple times, which 317 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: is you got to keep the long term view in mind. 318 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: Here is an organizational decision. It's not a head coach. 319 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: Head coach is worried about yesterday today. Uh, and not 320 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: only you know, like how do we respond what happened yesterday? 321 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: And we got to get through today and tomorrow's and 322 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: next week's and next month and next year is usually 323 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: more of a front office viewpoint, and that's why it's 324 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: a lot of these decisions can be organizational because you 325 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: got to keep the short term the long term in mind. 326 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: But there's a risk involved of losing Drake by putting 327 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: him out there too early, and you could do some 328 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: damage to him. There's also a risk of losing the 329 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: entire locker room when you throw out somebody that they 330 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: know is not the best player at the position. So 331 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: I think it, Uh was it like the uh that 332 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: viral clip that went around forever ago or Bill O'Reilly 333 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: lost his mind and was like, you know, I need this, 334 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: I need that. Screw it, you know, paraphrasing, we'll do 335 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: it live. Like that's kind of what I think it was. Like, No, 336 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: we're going with percent per st. We're going with percent 337 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: percent's not ready, what Percet's not ready? Screw it. We're 338 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: going with May. Get May out there, let's go Like. 339 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: That's not that. I don't think that's what anybody in 340 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: the building really wanted. Uh. I think they wanted Jacoby 341 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: Brissett to just be a steady Eddy And maybe you 342 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: see some of the flashes with Drake but like, hey, 343 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: let's still we can be patient. Let's bite our time. 344 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: But Bucky, I mean, you've been in the locker room, 345 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: so you'd be more equipped to answer this. But I 346 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: think when you're when you're you know, thinking about building 347 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: a team and a culture. Even though it's someone who's 348 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: been there in Girod Mayo, it's still his first time 349 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: as a head coach and trying to establish things. And hey, 350 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: we're a competitive environment. Best player wins, doesn't matter, the 351 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: money doesn't matter, the draft pick doesn't matter, the age. 352 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: We are going to put our best guys out there 353 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: to go win football games because that's what we're about. 354 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: How do you how do you look at the locker 355 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: room if you're not putting the best guy out there 356 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: at the most important position. 357 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, DJ, I don't know. I don't know how you can. 358 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: I don't legitimately do it. And it changes everything. It 359 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 3: changes the short and long term plans of the pages 360 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: if you put Drake may. 361 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: On the field. But you have to. 362 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 3: I mean, Jacoby Risset not only didn't play well, but 363 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 3: now he's banged up and beat up. So we're going 364 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 3: to go into Week one and we're gonna say we're 365 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: gonna play the beat up guy who didn't play well. 366 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 3: You have to play the young fresh guy, and you 367 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: have to like go in. You have to have a 368 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: meeting with Als Vampel, the offensive coordinator, and you know 369 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: Elliott dry Mayo. 370 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: How are we gonna do this? 371 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 3: How are we going to put it together to do it? 372 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: And even if you're like, we're gonna put them on 373 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 3: a pitch count, I don't like twenty five to thirty 374 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 3: passes game, Like, let's figure it out, Like we've got 375 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: to be able to run the football and do some 376 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 3: of those other things to protect them. But I think 377 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: you lose credibility if you're stand in front of the 378 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 3: team and say, hey, guys, Jacob Brier says, is gonna 379 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 3: be the start for Week one? I think everyone walks 380 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 3: out of the room. I think everyone will, yeah, I 381 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 3: think out of the I think they roll their eyes 382 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: and go. And I'm gonna say this because everyone talks 383 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 3: about the lack of talent on the pages. I think 384 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 3: defensively they're good enough to win some games. I think 385 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 3: their defense can keep them in games and do that. 386 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if they have a punchish chance on offense, 387 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 3: like they just don't have any explosive players on the 388 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: offense that you worry about. 389 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: Defensively, they can stay in games. 390 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 3: And so it's gonna be on drive Mayo and Alex 391 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 3: Van Pelt and everyone to come up with a plan 392 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: to play complimentary football. 393 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: But I think Drake may has to be a part 394 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 2: of that plan. Yeah, And I think the some of 395 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: the message to Drake has to be any drive that 396 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 2: ends in a kick, whether it's a punt or a 397 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 2: field goal, is fined by us. Don't need you to 398 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: be Superman. You're going to feel like it because of 399 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 2: what you're with on your side of the ball. But 400 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,479 Speaker 2: the other side of the ball is going to keep 401 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 2: scores down. We're going to play really good special teams 402 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 2: and you know we're gonna have We're gonna have a 403 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: play sheet for you. It's going to be, you know, 404 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: with a mixture of some movement to keep get you 405 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 2: out of harm's way behind this offensive line that scares 406 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: me half to death. Some movements for you. We've got some. 407 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: We're gonna protect you. Take a couple of shots, or 408 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: we're gonna protect you on that stuff. We're not going 409 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 2: to ask you to sit in there. We're not going 410 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 2: to go four or five out and ask you to 411 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: sit back there and play traditional quarterback thirty five forty 412 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 2: times a game. We're not going to do that to you. 413 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: So that that has to be part of the calculus 414 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: here of how they craft this thing. But man, I'll 415 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: tell you what. The other thing I do is team meeting. 416 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: I'm announced, you announced Drake as a starter in the 417 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: team meeting, and then I think I would say, all right, offense, 418 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: you're dismissed. Defense, you can stay in here. It's on 419 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: you guys to make this work. You guys have got 420 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 2: to help us get this kid up and running. I 421 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: can't have you going out there and giving up twenty 422 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: eight to thirty five points and putting this kid in 423 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: that position. We can't do that. You guys have got 424 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 2: to lead the way here. 425 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: I think it's a legitimate conversation. I think that's a 426 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: real conversation that you can have with the team and 427 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: is one that is needed. The need to understand exactly 428 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: what is going to be asked of them. You guys 429 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 3: have to keep scoring down if I think you have 430 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 3: to be honest with them. I flavored teams. We talked 431 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 3: about the magic number seventeen. We can't give up more 432 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 3: than seventeen points. We don't have a chance to win it. 433 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 3: So everyone knows it. We know what it is. Seventeen 434 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 3: is the magic number. If we canna win the game, 435 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 3: we need to get to it. Yeah, no, one hundred percent. 436 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 3: All right, let's get to uh timelines. Michael Pennix, is 437 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 3: this a given? Are you saying, like, for sure, we 438 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 3: do not see him Kirk Cousins is healthy? That like 439 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 3: the leashes obviously, with what. 440 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 2: Kirk's established and done in his career, is this leash 441 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: beyond a one year leash? Like, is there any ways 442 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: feasible that you could see Michael Pennix getting onto the 443 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: field without an injury with a healthy Kirk Cousins. Uh. 444 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 3: I would say it would have to take Kirk just 445 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: being absolutely terrible. It's hard for me to ever envision 446 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: Kirk being that bad where you pull him in favor 447 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: of Michael Pennix. I believe an injury has to open 448 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 3: the door for Michael Pennox to play, even though there's 449 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 3: this buzz about how he played and what Rahiem said 450 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 3: about seeing him in that one game, He's done enough. 451 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins would have to be injured in my mind 452 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: for Michael Pennis to get a shot. But then he 453 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 3: gets a shot, then I think it's joker jokers wow 454 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: like shot and has a three hundred four new yard. 455 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 3: Then it becomes a little dicey. He won't get that 456 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 3: opportunity until Kirk Cousins has to leave with like a 457 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 3: mint of injury that keeps him out. 458 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 2: For me, yeah, I'm with you. I don't anticipate that 459 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 2: we see him. I'm excited for whenever that time comes, 460 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: you know, curious, maybe more so than anything else. But 461 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: I think this team's ready right now, and I think 462 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: Kirk's kind of that established veteran who's been very, very consistent. 463 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: I expect that it's going to be a minute here 464 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 2: before we see Michael Pennix. Last one I want to 465 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: hit on because I think we've talked about Jayden so much, 466 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 2: we talked about Caleb so much. What we expect to 467 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 2: see there o Nick's being named the starter. I was 468 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: talking to some people around the league and they were 469 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: saying that people were trying to pry some pieces out 470 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: of the Broncos and maybe this, you know, in the 471 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 2: off season as well. As maybe even all the way 472 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: into training camp looking to see if hey they're still 473 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 2: you know, rebuilding phase. You know, maybe we could We're 474 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 2: a win now team. We're trying to get somebody off 475 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 2: that roster, and Sean Payton wouldn't do it, they wouldn't budget. 476 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 2: And I think that not only are they, you know, 477 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 2: in on bo Necks, I think they believe within that 478 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 2: organization and that that building, then not only can bo 479 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: next survive, but like, we've got a good enough group 480 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: here to go do something this year year one with 481 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: bo Necks. What do you think? 482 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 3: I agree with you, No, DJ. One of the things 483 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 3: that great coaches have is they have in in arrogance 484 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: about them when it comes to believing that they can 485 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 3: figure out a way to win with whatever they have. 486 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: Chempaygnon certainly has that. And because he has this thing 487 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: when it comes to quarterbacks, he can there's a part 488 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: of him that wants to show the football world that 489 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 3: he knows what he's talking about, he knows what he's doing, 490 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 3: and that bow Knicks is going to be his next 491 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: franchise quarterback. That helps him get back to be titled 492 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: contended in those things. So yeah, I understand where he's 493 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 3: coming from in the moves that they made in terms 494 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 3: of like shedding some of the players that they've get 495 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 3: rid of. I think he's very intentional in that he 496 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: believes in his young players. He believes the guys that 497 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 3: he has around the quarterback. I think he believes that 498 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 3: they are going to be good. And when I mean good, 499 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 3: not just hey, we're going to be five hundred good. 500 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: I believe he thinks that they're going to be a 501 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 3: competitive team that can kind of backdoor into the playoffs 502 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: with this young quarterback make him plays ma. 503 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: I think it's different too, though. I mean I think 504 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 2: when we talk about rookie quarterbacks but next to start 505 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: a bazillion games, you know he's not. He's not a 506 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 2: twenty one year old rookie. You know, this guy's been 507 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: around the block. He's got a lot of experience. He's 508 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: thrown the ball a ton and I think there's a 509 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: lot of similarities with how Sean Payton wants to run 510 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: offense versus how he ran it in college. So I 511 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: think there's you know, look, the debate with bo Knicks 512 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: for me, and it is going to be a ceiling debate, 513 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 2: not a floor debate. I think he comes in. I 514 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 2: think he's ready to go. I think he's you know, 515 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: you're going to see, you know, close to as good 516 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 2: as he's going to be very early in his career. 517 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: How good that is, that's be determined. But I think 518 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: he's a high floor. Maybe a little lower ceiling, but 519 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: I think Sean Payton says, hey, give me a high 520 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 2: floor quarterback. With the way I call plays and the 521 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: way I see the game in what position I put 522 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: you in, I'm gonna win a lot of football games 523 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: with that. So I think bow Knicks has a chance 524 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: to get up and running quickly with the Denver Broncos. 525 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: Yes he does. 526 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: And you know the thing about bow Knicks, And here's 527 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 3: what I want to see DJ when it comes to. 528 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: All of these quarterbacks. 529 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: And it's like a captain obvious comment, but it's one 530 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 3: of those things that we're going to have to dress 531 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 3: when we get to the draft class next. 532 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 2: Year at quarterback. 533 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 3: If Jade and Daniels, if bow Knicks, if those guys 534 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 3: have success considering their long and extensive resumes in terms 535 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: of their number games play, it flips again, like the 536 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 3: narrative in terms of what we're looking for at quarterback 537 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 3: and what we value. It used to be almost like 538 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: an albatross around a quarterback's neck if they transferred in 539 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: those things. But I think now people will see the 540 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 3: benefit of dealing with someone who has had some early 541 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 3: struggles but it's kind of bounced out and come on 542 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 3: to the other side of it. And if taking log 543 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 3: significant starts, you just have a guy that is more 544 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 3: ready to play in the NFL. 545 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: I mean, Brock Purdy has proven it. 546 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: I mean like we're beginning to get a sample of 547 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: enough quarterbacks that have come into the league and played 548 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: right away and had success, and there appears to be 549 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 3: a common thing that they've played a ton of games 550 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: in college and that has helped him make a quick 551 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 3: transition to the program. 552 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's gonna be something that we keep in 553 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: mind and talk about as as we get towards the 554 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 2: draft each and every year about the benefit of that. 555 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: And I think there is a little more similarity in 556 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: terms of, you know, how quarterbacks are playing the NFL 557 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: than it used to be in the past to what 558 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 2: they do in college. So I think that has eased 559 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: the transition, so to speak, as the NFL has kind 560 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: of met college where they are a little bit from 561 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: an offensive standpoint, so that gives you an opportunity to 562 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 2: get up and run. And well, last last question on 563 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 2: these rookie quarterbacks, Buck and we'll we'll wrap this one 564 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 2: up again. We've got two more episodes coming this week 565 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 2: as we're kind of in the in between weeks before 566 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 2: things really get cranked up. Uh, Caleb or Jaden? Who's 567 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 2: whose best position not to have the best year, but 568 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 2: whose position who's a well positioned to get off and going? Oh? 569 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: I think I think Caleb. And the only reason is 570 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 3: I think experience matters. In the experience that he has 571 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 3: around him matters more than what Jaden Daniels has around him. 572 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 3: With the Commanders, they traded off to Deshaun john Dotson, 573 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 3: and so you have scary Terry. But when I look 574 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: at the Bears and Keenan Allen and DJ Moore and 575 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 3: Cole Comet and DeAndre Swift, you have experienced players around him. 576 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 3: And the pass catchers in particular Keenan Allen, Dj Moore, 577 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: they played a lot of games. They can make the 578 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 3: game easier for Kayleb Williams by making it right even 579 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 3: when the young quarterback is wrong. To me that is 580 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 3: the difference between what Chicago's trotting out and what Washington 581 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 3: is tried out. 582 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 2: That's why I give the advance of Caleb. Yeah, I'm 583 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: curious to see. I think we'll know after week one 584 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: what the first quarter of the season is going to 585 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: look like. You know, the Bears play Tennessee. That's a 586 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 2: good defensive front there in Tennessee, but that's one that 587 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: the Bears. That's obviously a game that Bears need to 588 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 2: go out there and win, first of all. But I 589 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: think that's that's set up where Caleb should be able 590 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 2: to do some things. And then you look at the 591 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: Commanders they come out to shoot at Tampa Bay on 592 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 2: the road. Man, It's it's gonna be interesting to see 593 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: what it looks like early. I'm gonna take the other 594 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: side of it, just from the standpoint of you pick 595 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 2: the experience around Caleb. I'm just gonna take the experience 596 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: with Jayden and say that I don't you know, I 597 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: think that that'll slow. I think the game will be 598 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 2: a little slower for Jaden initially, and I think maybe 599 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 2: a little sped up for Caleb initially. So I'll say, 600 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: if we're looking at the first quarter, of the season. 601 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Jaden Daniels gets off to a little 602 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 2: bit better start, even though the supporting cast he has 603 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: is nowhere near what Caleb has done in Chicago. Yeah, 604 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 2: I agree with you on that. 605 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: I mean it is it is different, and you're right 606 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 3: about like the game appears to be in a slow 607 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 3: motion for. 608 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: Jade and Daniels already. 609 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 3: Uh, that is an advantage, but I think by mid 610 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 3: season it quickly and catch up. I just believe the 611 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 3: talent around Caleb if Hell is superior to what Jayden has. 612 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 3: And ultimately it's a game that players decided, and it's 613 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 3: a players game. And just those players are I mean 614 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 3: they're real Keenan Allen more co Co med DeAndre. I 615 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 3: mean they're real players, real high end players. 616 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: Well, the other thing I would have just added last 617 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 2: seas we kind of wrap this up. If you wondered 618 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,239 Speaker 2: about the quarterback being the most important position in all 619 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: of sports, just think about this last year. If I 620 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: told you the Bears and the Commanders were going to 621 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: be playing against each other, would you would you carve 622 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: out time on your schedule to make sure you didn't 623 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 2: miss that game? And now those two teams bluck. I 624 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: mean that's on my Now I'm gonna be you know, 625 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 2: I'll be calling Charger games, You'll be calling Jags games, 626 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna have my eye on those two teams. 627 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 2: I'm fascinated to see those two guys play. I mean, 628 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: that's made them must watch TV with what they bring. 629 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: Not only is as you know, just starting quarterbacks, but 630 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: guys who have who play with uh flair and excitement 631 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: and create energy and buzz and big plays all that stuff. 632 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: Like those teams now are watchable after being an unwatchable product. 633 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: I mean, they have found a way to kind of 634 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 3: kind of do it is. It's really good to see 635 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: those teams never never. I mean it's rare that they 636 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 3: are offensive minded teams where you really get excited by 637 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 3: the offense. But yeah, you're tuning in to watch what 638 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 3: should be really interesting and compelling. 639 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 2: Selfishly, as we finish here, what I'm looking forward to 640 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: most with the start of the season is the ability 641 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: to sort statistics and watch the video. The cut up 642 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: ability now for us is so it's been that way 643 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: for a handful of years, but the ability for us 644 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: to have it on this side is so extraordinary. It's 645 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: so awesome. So to be able to do that and 646 00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: be able to sort and say, Okay, I want to 647 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: see all the rookies this week. Who are the rookies 648 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: who had all the past rush production on the Monkst Rookies. Boom, 649 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: click it, sort it, watch it, bam. I cannot wait. 650 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: I cannot wait for that first Monday after we get 651 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: this thing cranked up, to be able to track all 652 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: these young guys, see what they're doing, see maybe some 653 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: of these new free agents. I want to I'm looking 654 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: forward to watching all Christian Wilkins pass rushes, pointing with 655 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: Max Krosby. How are they going to use those guys. 656 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: There's a million different things. So these episodes now where 657 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: you know, hey, we think this. We think that we'll 658 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: be able to have episodes very shortly where we can say, hey, 659 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: this is what happened, this is why it happened, and 660 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: this is why this is such a fun pod to 661 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: be on. 662 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 3: I get it, man, I've heard you talk about it. 663 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 3: I've heard you talk about like the little plus situation 664 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: on Premium. 665 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome, and so check that out. Yeah, check 666 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 2: it out plus Premium. I probably got the words all 667 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: mixed up. Bill Smith's gonna kill me. But you have 668 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: the ability through next gen stats to be able to 669 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: sort everything and you want to watch matchups. You want 670 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: to see how this players done against this player in 671 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: the past. Bam, we got all the numbers there. You 672 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,719 Speaker 2: can click on it, you can watch the videos. In 673 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: other words, like I've got Chargers Raiders Week one, Rashaan 674 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: Slater versus Max Crosby. I want to go look and 675 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: see how Max Crosby's done in his one on ones 676 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: against Slater. I can not only get the stats, then 677 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: I can pop the the All twenty two and watch 678 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: the snaps of them going against each other. That's just 679 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: like a small example of how ridiculous NFL plus Premium is. 680 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: So I we would encourage you guys to go check 681 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: that out. Is it's pretty freaking awesome. 682 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 3: It is a pretty awesome tool. 683 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna do it for us today. I 684 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: hope you guys enjoyed hanging with us. We will see 685 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: you next time right here on movie sticks.