Speaker 1: R and B money, Honey, we are than take the child.
Speaker 1: We are the authority on R and B. Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: My name is Tank, I'm Jay Allentown, and this is
Speaker 1: the r Andy.
Speaker 2: Bundy Podcast, the authority, yeah, on all things R and B.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, you know I've been on this West coast about
Speaker 2: twenty four years.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like I'm from here. Yeah. Huh
Speaker 1: have you ever saved an entire label? Now? Many have?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 1: Have you ever mixed R and B with the funk
Speaker 1: and called it?
Speaker 2: How you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've never done it, but the man here has.
Speaker 1: It's a nice mister Warren, the lady himself. Yeah, ship.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. How you feeling, man, I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2: Do you do you like because this is this is
Speaker 2: a flowers pod. This is where you get an opportunity
Speaker 2: to really say it how you feel it. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Beaches, you understand I'm saying, like like
Speaker 2: own it?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Have have you like ever.
Speaker 2: Just looked around and and.
Speaker 1: And thought about the things that you've actually done?
Speaker 3: Nah? I just uh, I feel like if I if
Speaker 3: I think about all the stuff back in the past,
Speaker 3: I started feeling like I'm super old night.
Speaker 4: I'm still young.
Speaker 3: I still I mean, I ain't super young, but I'm
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm writing them in the mix with
Speaker 3: everything musical, uh everything, you know.
Speaker 4: My kids was even trying to clown me talking about dad.
Speaker 3: You can't do a card wo, I said, ship.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 3: I'm good, but you know it just you know, just
Speaker 3: if I think about that stuff, uh, like I said,
Speaker 3: it may make me feel like I'm just super old.
Speaker 1: But then.
Speaker 3: I just try to keep moving. I don't. I just
Speaker 3: like to do stuff and just keep moving. Like if Okay,
Speaker 3: that's a hit record, boom, I'm trying to get another
Speaker 3: one of those. So I just keep driving and driving
Speaker 3: and driving, trying to create you know, uh, just straight
Speaker 3: hit records, you know what I mean. I try to do.
Speaker 4: I know it's not possible, but.
Speaker 3: I try to do every record that I produce, I
Speaker 3: try to make it a single, you know.
Speaker 4: So, and that's how people get good good albums.
Speaker 3: When when you're doing a full album, you try to
Speaker 3: make every record a good a single. And that's when
Speaker 3: people be like, damn, the whole record just as a
Speaker 3: whole sound good from top to bottom, you know.
Speaker 1: So I mean.
Speaker 3: That's that's uh, that's just how I am. And I mean,
Speaker 3: like I said, I just I love everything I did.
Speaker 3: But I'm you know, I'm I'm I'm just moving just
Speaker 3: I don't I don't want to stop.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I asked that because in this age of everything moving
Speaker 2: so fast and everybody's scrolling so fast, and and we're
Speaker 2: in an age where people people love to have amnesia. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: they love too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They can't wait to y'all.
Speaker 1: I must have forgotten.
Speaker 2: They can't wait to discredit without actually knowing the credits
Speaker 2: and the importance in terms of the things that you've
Speaker 2: done which have contributed to the foundation and the fabric
Speaker 2: of certain things. It's important to be part of a
Speaker 2: constant conversation, not that you have to say because I mean,
Speaker 2: that's if you don't, somebody has to say it. And
Speaker 2: and I'm thankful that you're here so that so that
Speaker 2: we can fucking say it.
Speaker 1: This is this is you know, you.
Speaker 2: Can however you want to do your other interviews, you
Speaker 2: can be light and easy on them, but today I
Speaker 2: want to hear a whole lot of yeah, you fucking right,
Speaker 2: I did that.
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 3: I want to straight up, I ain't gonna I ain't
Speaker 3: gonna sugar coat nothing.
Speaker 2: I'm straight up. Yeah, I'm so so so treat me.
Speaker 2: Treat me like I'm new to the West Coast. Where
Speaker 2: does this start? Brother Warrens, Like, where does this journey begin?
Speaker 3: It was we uh well, musically for my For myself,
Speaker 3: it started with my dad going to his house. He
Speaker 3: would scoop me up on the weekends and we would
Speaker 3: listening to jazz just all day. You know, he'd be blazing,
Speaker 3: you know, have his friends, his lady friends and stuff
Speaker 3: come through. Sometimes some of his homies come through. But
Speaker 3: I always had to just chill right there or play
Speaker 3: with the guy that lived next door named Tommy.
Speaker 4: We used to play Star Wars and ship.
Speaker 3: But other than that, I'd be laying on the ground
Speaker 3: listening to jazz with him. And then from there, you know,
Speaker 3: my my father and Werner got married and that brought
Speaker 3: me around Drake. That's when I was but from my
Speaker 3: pup I probably was like seven years old maybe, so
Speaker 3: we lived together because my mom made me move with
Speaker 3: my father, you know, and my father and Vernon was
Speaker 3: married and they lived in compics, so they made me move,
Speaker 3: moved the coptain and no, I wasn't I wasn't bad.
Speaker 3: She didn't want to she didn't want me to get
Speaker 3: caught up in what was going on around where we
Speaker 3: lived at in Loan Beach. But Ship, I was already
Speaker 3: in the mix anywhere, because I was still going. I
Speaker 3: catched the bus right back down down to the East Side.
Speaker 3: And uh, just you know, living with my dad and
Speaker 3: being with with Andre and Tyree, Uh they groomed me,
Speaker 3: you know, so being around them and just all all
Speaker 3: my life, you know, I wanted to be like Dre.
Speaker 3: You know, he was doing DJing and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and you know, me and Tyree, we just we both
Speaker 3: was in the sports a lot. And but I kind
Speaker 3: of like Dre used to do mixtapes all the time
Speaker 3: that it was just bumping, Like Ship just was bumping.
Speaker 3: So I was like, man, can you show me how
Speaker 3: to do that? So he showed me one day in
Speaker 3: the room because we slept in the same room. We
Speaker 3: slept in the same beds together all that. You know,
Speaker 3: how you got two beds and his three boys and
Speaker 3: was sleeping this bed and that bed, and and he
Speaker 3: had some turntables set up by the clause that he
Speaker 3: had it all set up right there, and he showed
Speaker 3: me and I can remember the first record it was.
Speaker 4: It was uh uh it's time.
Speaker 3: He showed me how to mix that and uh so
Speaker 3: I just started practicing practicing from there, and uh that
Speaker 3: was another thing that made me fall in love with
Speaker 3: music as well. And just you know, looking up to him,
Speaker 3: him and Tyree, they both was was both you know.
Speaker 3: It was great for me to have big brothers. I
Speaker 3: was like dangn but and and they used to make
Speaker 3: me fight the little dudes in the hood. They called
Speaker 3: me kibbles and bits then and uh but uh, I
Speaker 3: graduated from kibbles and business to uh circul pull up.
Speaker 1: A problem with your little niggas. Yeah, we used to.
Speaker 4: We used to have battle of the blocks, uh boxing
Speaker 4: and the gloves.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: One of my homeboys stink.
Speaker 4: He was vicious. I ain't gonna live, but me and
Speaker 4: him used to lock up. Yeah, we were locking up.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: That was my only competition other than that.
Speaker 3: I was putting hands on everybody except for bb BB
Speaker 3: was He was younger than me, but he was one
Speaker 3: of those who was just vicious. He was one of
Speaker 3: the fi I'm talking about like thirteen years old, knocking out,
Speaker 3: knocking out, twenty five year old or thirty years like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like that, so that all this is in Compton though,
Speaker 3: that was in Compton, but I was I was still
Speaker 3: tracking back and forth. But you living in Compton, but
Speaker 3: you're from Long Beach, so yeah, it's also that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: when you moved to that neighborhood, they're like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: was a bitch from Long Beach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so you had to go through that whole thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean all of that stuff just groomed me,
Speaker 4: uh into the music.
Speaker 3: And then later on as I.
Speaker 1: Grew up.
Speaker 3: I'm not ain't gonna say as I grew up before that,
Speaker 3: I was around you know that ain't even before that.
Speaker 3: That was all around the same time.
Speaker 4: We used to.
Speaker 3: I would go back and I'd be at my house
Speaker 3: with my mother and we had we had had this
Speaker 3: crew called the Voultron Crew. That's what I talk about
Speaker 3: on this DJ. I said, the Vaultron Crew, which we
Speaker 3: worked for this dude named Steve who we used to
Speaker 3: sell candy for. And so we used to go to
Speaker 3: all the neighborhoods all from Long Beach to Santa Ana
Speaker 3: to up by U c l A selling candy and
Speaker 3: and uh when we were finished selling candy, what we
Speaker 3: would do was we rap.
Speaker 4: So it was me Snoop, the twins.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: It was a gang of us, Steve uh t Needy,
Speaker 4: it was Priscilla uh Uh, it was a bunch of us.
Speaker 4: Uh fave uh tig.
Speaker 1: We was deep.
Speaker 4: All of us was in this one van.
Speaker 3: We was like the uh fat album now and after
Speaker 3: after we finished selling candy, we would we would flip
Speaker 3: quarters and we would just freestyle. So that's where I
Speaker 3: really learned how to how to you know, just like
Speaker 3: really just learn how to freestyle because you had to.
Speaker 3: But I started cheating, uh because I was I was
Speaker 3: you know, like I said. At that time, Dre was
Speaker 3: in uh the world class wrecking crew. So I used
Speaker 3: to get all the music before anybody anything. So I
Speaker 3: had the tapes everything.
Speaker 4: So we in there one day and I'm just I
Speaker 4: just started rapping.
Speaker 1: Uh they hate.
Speaker 3: He had a song called Cabbage Patch and I started
Speaker 3: rapping that motherfucking there uh in the in the van
Speaker 3: with everybody after word will. I was rolling down the
Speaker 3: street with my mind at ease. I had my top
Speaker 3: pulled back to Canfield. They looking like damn this nigga
Speaker 3: and gun hor.
Speaker 1: Where you get that?
Speaker 3: What happened? I never said ship and uh until later
Speaker 3: and you know, just doing that the Vaultron crew. But
Speaker 3: you're going back and forth, yeah, going back. You're going
Speaker 3: back and forth Compton.
Speaker 1: So do they not I'm not even just Long Beach
Speaker 1: and Compton from.
Speaker 5: Your Voultron crew to your household with your big brothers,
Speaker 5: poor world class wrecking crew.
Speaker 1: Does the home? Do the homies in Long Beach know this?
Speaker 2: Or no?
Speaker 3: Yeah they knew it?
Speaker 4: Well snooping, Yeah they knew it.
Speaker 1: They knew it. They knew it because by this time
Speaker 1: they got turned off the lights and all that out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah they knew it. They knew it.
Speaker 4: Ship.
Speaker 3: Everybody knew it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Dre used to be in Long Wish too, you know
Speaker 3: on the east side. Well he went to staying out
Speaker 3: on the east side here and there, and he went
Speaker 3: to Jordan for I think for maybe a few semesters
Speaker 3: or something, and then he he got kicked out, I think,
Speaker 3: uh for not going I think, but let me see.
Speaker 3: But I mean all of that, so every everybody, you know,
Speaker 3: everybody from Loanbies knew that Dre was related to us.
Speaker 3: Every you know, everybody knew it. And then later on, uh,
Speaker 3: like I said, we was with the Vultron crew. We
Speaker 3: used to go to Cayle State. I talk about that
Speaker 3: in this DJ that King Park was the the epicenter
Speaker 3: for for all our relationships for the twins. Who was
Speaker 3: who was the artist with us? Me and Snoop Dirty Left,
Speaker 3: which is Snoopers oldest brother. That was that was my
Speaker 3: best friend before Snoop was my best friend because we
Speaker 3: all went to C I S. That was across the
Speaker 3: street from King Park. And I'm kind of speeding a
Speaker 3: little it, uh through the whole through the whole thing.
Speaker 3: But uh, but that that's where our introduction, our introduction
Speaker 3: to each other as kids started right there at King's Park,
Speaker 3: getting the free lunches. Uh, working for the s Y E.
Speaker 3: T P, Working for Steve with the United teams, just
Speaker 3: trying to trying to survive and trying to try to eat.
Speaker 3: And you know Snoop was always uh uh he was
Speaker 3: like a comedian. He used to always bag and he
Speaker 3: would always freestyle. So we played football together, uh and
Speaker 3: he used to always be rapping. I was I was
Speaker 3: focused on football more heavy, but we always we always
Speaker 3: was doing music. So as we got older and older
Speaker 3: and older, we kept working with me, you know, Snoop
Speaker 3: became my best friend, so we would dip here and there.
Speaker 3: So we kind of got separated at at a certain
Speaker 3: point where I was in Norfolk Beach because I had
Speaker 3: got in trouble coming down alone, which I got in trouble.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: I went to middle school actually in Loan Beach at Hughes.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: So they kicked me out of Hughes and sent me
Speaker 3: to the north side, a long beach, Hamilton.
Speaker 4: Got kicked out of Hamilton.
Speaker 3: They sent me to Lindburg and Lindbergh is where it
Speaker 3: all started. Sub where I got on track and that
Speaker 3: was that was That was like some of the most
Speaker 3: fun I had in my life from that point through
Speaker 3: high school.
Speaker 4: But we still kept in touch with each other.
Speaker 3: I would come down there still hanging with all my
Speaker 3: friends and we would do music and messing around.
Speaker 4: So we got older. Uh been high school.
Speaker 3: One day, I was at lunch, you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 3: out at lunch and I hear somebody howling warm, you know,
Speaker 3: like warm. So I'm looking, I'm looking like Warren. I
Speaker 3: look and it's snoop and I'm like, think, what the
Speaker 3: fuck are you doing up here? You're supposed to be
Speaker 3: a polly.
Speaker 4: He was like they they wouldn't let me go to
Speaker 4: poly no more because we moved up to sixty first Street, so.
Speaker 3: He was he was. He was like, you still doing music,
Speaker 3: ain't you? I was like, yeah, still doing music. So
Speaker 3: we linked up, did a little mixtape. I still had
Speaker 3: my turntables and my mixer and I would hit record
Speaker 3: on the tape deck and we give them a little
Speaker 3: raggedy microphone and he'd start busting. We just we did
Speaker 3: a demo for Eric being rock Camp, well for Karl Lewis,
Speaker 3: but it was we sent it to her to give
Speaker 3: to Eric Being rock Camp and all of them back
Speaker 3: in the day.
Speaker 4: On our mixtape I think I made.
Speaker 3: I probably did like about I mailed off about maybe
Speaker 3: eight to ten of them, motherfuckers, just mailing them to
Speaker 3: different record companies and everything, just off our little demo.
Speaker 3: But we kept doing We started doing mixtapes and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. So once we got out of school is
Speaker 3: when the reality kind of hit us a little bit.
Speaker 1: So we was like all over.
Speaker 3: I stayed on sixty first us an Orange. He stayed
Speaker 3: on sixty first in London. So we ended up getting
Speaker 3: caught up in the hustle game around the neighborhood. But
Speaker 3: we were still doing our music too. But it was
Speaker 3: starting to get hectic as far as like that's I
Speaker 3: talk about that on do U see. It was getting
Speaker 3: hectic for us then, but we still was we we
Speaker 3: had We was just trying to make money so we
Speaker 3: can get new clothes, go to the football games and
Speaker 3: look good, and you know, just try to get cars
Speaker 3: and shit like that. Just looking at the guys that
Speaker 3: was before us. We kept going and going and going
Speaker 3: with you know, we was going in and out of jail.
Speaker 3: We go to the county. One I may be in
Speaker 3: the county. He main't be in the county. Or Nate
Speaker 3: then went to the county. You know, just back and
Speaker 3: forth from getting caught up and where were you know,
Speaker 3: around where we was at, And we finally just said,
Speaker 3: you know what, let's slow down a little bit, get
Speaker 3: it together, because we've seen a lot happen, uh as
Speaker 3: far as on the on the gang tip, the killing tip,
Speaker 3: the shooting tip, all that ship, we've seen a lot
Speaker 3: of shit. So it was like we're gonna We're gonna
Speaker 3: end up being in the in this position, just like
Speaker 3: all the other Homeboys was gone twenty something years, fifteen years,
Speaker 3: thirty years, they was all getting stretched, and uh so
Speaker 3: we was like fuck that shit. Uh So we just
Speaker 3: started working full time. We would go to the VIP
Speaker 3: Calvin would let us in in the do demos. So
Speaker 3: we're going there doing demos. Yeah, and the record store
Speaker 3: right yeah, yeah, so we was doing demos from with Calvin.
Speaker 3: Uh with Snoop was going to other I would get mad.
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie when he would go deal with
Speaker 3: other producers and other people pissed off.
Speaker 4: Like while you going over there with them?
Speaker 3: We were you and Nate.
Speaker 1: So, uh we did a.
Speaker 3: Demo with one of my guys, his name money B.
Speaker 3: Not money Be from Digital Underground, but long Beach money Bee.
Speaker 3: He's a white dude, but he was. He was our niggah.
Speaker 3: But uh so we did a demo with him. We
Speaker 3: did a song called long Beach is a motherfucker. I
Speaker 3: can't remember all our songs right off top, but I
Speaker 3: got him actually in my phone.
Speaker 1: You still got all your original I got the demos
Speaker 1: in my phone. M Do you feel like.
Speaker 5: For y'all, it was more of a reality because you
Speaker 5: had a brother who was already doing it.
Speaker 1: Was that always kind of the back with us.
Speaker 3: At all. Yeah, little family functions that Dre, Snoop and
Speaker 3: rap Man you need to listen. And we got a
Speaker 3: group called two one three check us out. Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, Like damn, he ain't fucking with us. So
Speaker 3: he never was fucking with us.
Speaker 1: He was cool with us.
Speaker 4: Fucking with us like no, y'all, y'all niggas ain't you
Speaker 4: know because some wild niggas.
Speaker 1: No, probably because we was pretty young. We was.
Speaker 4: We was pretty young. Uh when we was trying to
Speaker 4: get at him, we was. We was young like ship uh.
Speaker 1: We we was young. Because this is the n w
Speaker 1: A days for him though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well it was n w A and then
Speaker 3: he went into n w A end I mean ended
Speaker 3: up well wrecking Crew and then he went into n
Speaker 3: w A at the time at that time around that time,
Speaker 3: but before that, he was with the uh I think
Speaker 3: it was called the Stereo Crew. They was deep there.
Speaker 3: DJ Crew. That's why I fell in love with with
Speaker 3: DJ because him and Easy Randy, cat Sheen Donald, they
Speaker 3: was all a crew a speed did the speed Uh,
Speaker 3: they had their crew called I think it was called
Speaker 3: the Stereo Crew, if I'm not mistaken. So that's inspired
Speaker 3: me as well. But god damn, I forgot sometimes.
Speaker 2: With his family when it's family, wasn't when it's family,
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: Too it's too close for you to really see if.
Speaker 3: It's real or not if yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, but we kept we kept working.
Speaker 1: We went for some years. Yeah, we wasn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we was older, like seventeen eighteen, seventeen eighteen.
Speaker 3: Around that time, we was uh, we wasn't even chiming
Speaker 3: in with him no more. So we were just doing
Speaker 3: our thing in the streets. And like I said, we
Speaker 3: formed a group called two one three, which was our
Speaker 3: area code for all of California, like the southern California
Speaker 3: and then but we was inspired by four one five
Speaker 3: from the Bay Richie Rich, Yeah, Richie Rich, which.
Speaker 5: Is crazy because the same thing happened with them, where
Speaker 5: four and five the area coast our area codes split
Speaker 5: up in the Bay. Yeah, four and five only end
Speaker 5: up in San Francisco. And obviously then five one oh
Speaker 5: became Oakland, our yards became Long Beach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, three one three one oh was a round let
Speaker 3: me three one oh. It was before two one three
Speaker 3: was it? It was three to one oh, but it
Speaker 3: was l A was always known, it was all, but
Speaker 3: then it switched to two one three, and uh so
Speaker 3: we we we took on that that whole, like we
Speaker 3: represent for everybody, Comped and Washed Long Beach, La Courson,
Speaker 3: sand Burns wherever the mass circle and uh we just
Speaker 3: started doing demos and just recording them and passing them
Speaker 3: out to everybody, like we would let people.
Speaker 4: They hear like that ship dope, So we dub it.
Speaker 3: You know, you had the double, except we double them boom,
Speaker 3: give them a tape, duble, give them a tape. And
Speaker 3: then Roger Clayton from Uncle Jam's army gave us a
Speaker 3: uh start, giving us a shot to get down in
Speaker 3: his club called the toe Jam. So we kept we
Speaker 3: used to go to the toe Jam and just have
Speaker 3: a have a ball. Just he'd let us get on
Speaker 3: the mic. I'd get up there and start d jamm.
Speaker 3: I'll be up there like.
Speaker 4: You drink whiskey, I drink wine.
Speaker 3: Come on everybody's gangs to the time. Boom boo, boom,
Speaker 3: boom boom, Snoop Star busting. Wama did start busting, and Uh,
Speaker 3: it was it was, it was live. We had so
Speaker 3: much fun.
Speaker 1: Uh, y'all only eighteen years old at this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, seventeen eighteen, right in right around there, and we
Speaker 3: just kept just pushing all of them. And Quick inspired
Speaker 3: us as well, DJ Quick, So we was trying to
Speaker 3: get mixtapes out to push like he was doing. That's
Speaker 3: that's why we had a mixtape or a demo called
Speaker 3: Long Was a Motherfucker. It's pretty much a mixtape. So
Speaker 3: we just gave that everybody. So it started bubbling like everywhere,
Speaker 3: like bubbling, and we just we just wasn't getting a
Speaker 3: chance from nobody, so just on a humbug. I hadn't
Speaker 3: seen dre in it like in a while, like it
Speaker 3: was a long time, so I hit him up.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I was like, cause I used to hang I used
Speaker 3: to kick it with him, you know when in the
Speaker 3: n w A days, I'd go hang out at the
Speaker 3: studio with him and everything and watched them work and
Speaker 3: I'd be right back to doing what I do back
Speaker 3: over here.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Or was that after let Me See No?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: That was that was?
Speaker 4: That was around that time and so I asked him.
Speaker 3: One day. You know, I became tight with with uh
Speaker 3: with uh l A d Well. Actually I called Dre
Speaker 3: and he he was like, hit l A Dre. I'm
Speaker 3: having a bachelor party. So I hit l A Dre
Speaker 3: and he told me how to get there. I think
Speaker 3: it was at the Bonadventure, if I'm not mistaken. So
Speaker 3: I went, me and my homeboy Gangster Ride and uh
Speaker 3: Kenny Mack. We had all we jumped into r X
Speaker 3: seven and I had one person had the ride in
Speaker 3: the hatchback. So we mashed up to the uh to
Speaker 3: the uh the bachelor party. UH in the bachelor party
Speaker 3: every day playing some dope music and it kind of
Speaker 3: like started getting like like they was running out of music.
Speaker 4: So I told Dre.
Speaker 3: I told l A Dre. I said, can I pop
Speaker 3: this stapen? He was like, go ahead, some music, go ahead.
Speaker 3: So I popped it in and he played it when
Speaker 3: he and when he played it, everybody started dancing and
Speaker 3: was bobbing and ship.
Speaker 4: He was like, damn, this ship is dope.
Speaker 3: Who was this? And I was like that's me Snoop
Speaker 3: and my homeboy Knake Dog. He was like, damn this
Speaker 3: ship bang. He said, have you let Dre hear this?
Speaker 3: I was like no, So he called Drey over. It
Speaker 3: was like, Dre, you need to listen and this shit.
Speaker 3: So when he came over and he uh Drake came
Speaker 3: on with listened, He's like, damn that shit hard.
Speaker 4: He was like, that's y'all.
Speaker 1: I was like yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like I was saying to myself, nigga, I've
Speaker 3: been trying to tell you that that were hard with Vicious,
Speaker 3: but you don't want to listen. So so he was like,
Speaker 3: y'all come to the studio.
Speaker 1: Was immediate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, y'all come to the studio on Monday. Actually,
Speaker 3: he said come to the studio on Monday. So at
Speaker 3: that time, I was pissed off of Snoop because he
Speaker 3: would go work with all these off brands instead of
Speaker 3: meet him and Nate work and he'd be doing shit
Speaker 3: on his owner. It was pissing me off. So we
Speaker 3: was kind of at it at that time. So I
Speaker 3: called him anywhere. I was like, Snoop, I just talked
Speaker 3: to Dre and he wants to come to the studio
Speaker 3: on Monday. He was like, nigga, fuck that shit.
Speaker 1: Nigga. Boom.
Speaker 3: He hanged the funnel because he had a Snoop had
Speaker 3: a nasty ass attitude back then. He'll make you want
Speaker 3: to socking and he'll hang up on you like this motherfucker.
Speaker 3: So I called him again and uh he.
Speaker 4: Answered and and uh he was like uh nigga, I said,
Speaker 4: I said, Snoop, just please just chill. Just let me
Speaker 4: call him on the three way.
Speaker 3: So I called him. I called Dray on the three
Speaker 3: way and Dre was like, what's up? I said, Dre,
Speaker 3: would you tell Snoop that you want to succumb to
Speaker 3: the studio on Monday. He was like, yeah, I want
Speaker 3: you to come to the studio on Monday.
Speaker 1: He was like, who was this?
Speaker 3: He he's like this doctor Dre.
Speaker 4: When he said that, this doctor Drake, because you know
Speaker 4: that's it, that's the he was like, oh ship.
Speaker 1: He was like Dre.
Speaker 3: He was like, oh ship. He was like it's like yeah,
Speaker 3: like we'll be there. So that Monday, we uh with
Speaker 3: my homeboy Rump and we jumped in his his bucket.
Speaker 3: You know one of the kid where you get to
Speaker 3: the light and you got to put it in apartment.
Speaker 3: We all there, Yeah, we got to the light. We
Speaker 3: got to the light. So We did that all the
Speaker 3: way to Hollywood. We didn't even get on the freeway
Speaker 3: and uh hell long beach. Yeah, the streets, the streets,
Speaker 3: it was cool, easy, It was easy routes all the
Speaker 3: way up and we actually uh we was also we
Speaker 3: would go to above a Law studio too with and
Speaker 3: we was over there doing we actually did some demo
Speaker 3: ship with them too, with with the whatever the law now.
Speaker 3: And but Dre was like, come up to the studio
Speaker 3: even then Blay Law and then was doing saying the
Speaker 3: same thing, but y'all come get down with us. But
Speaker 3: when the Drake thing came, it was like that was
Speaker 3: like our dream. So we went over there and immediately
Speaker 3: Drake as soon as we got in there, he threw
Speaker 3: a beat on.
Speaker 4: It was more it was snoop more for more for
Speaker 4: it was just straight for snoop.
Speaker 3: So he threw a beat on that had it was
Speaker 3: the big payback mixed uh with a hold on and
Speaker 3: had the big payback in there like in there with
Speaker 3: that ship was hard. It was called this is a
Speaker 3: Gangster's Life. And from that point it's where that's where
Speaker 3: it started for us. Like Dre was like, y'all need
Speaker 3: to come move with me to get up out the hoods.
Speaker 3: So y'all don't get in no trouble, y'all just come
Speaker 3: come up to my house and and come stay with me,
Speaker 3: you know. And that's that's where everything started. We just
Speaker 3: immediately just started doing music. And is he still inn
Speaker 3: He was gone, he was out at that point. They
Speaker 3: haven't decided where they're gonna take the new He didn't like,
Speaker 3: he said yet. I just I've just seen a quote
Speaker 3: that he said, let me, I'm gonna read this ship.
Speaker 4: If I could read it. I locked this in because
Speaker 4: I was like, wow, he said.
Speaker 3: Snow came to me at a very low point in
Speaker 3: my life and I just had separated myself from Ruthless Records.
Speaker 3: I had no money for food. I didn't even have
Speaker 3: furniture in my house at that time. At that at
Speaker 3: that time, then boom, here comes Snoop, a true diamond
Speaker 3: in the rough. I mean, Snoop is just pure raw talent.
Speaker 3: Nobody sounds like Snoop. Then it was a time. Then
Speaker 3: it was time to do my first solo album. The
Speaker 3: chronic Snoop was always there for me, ready to work
Speaker 3: and constantly motivate me, motivating me and pushing me and
Speaker 3: making me believe I can do it. I could always
Speaker 3: hear his voice in my head, come on, Drake, cuz,
Speaker 3: come on, you can do it.
Speaker 4: You got this, keep it, keep it going.
Speaker 1: You know I don't.
Speaker 3: It's still a lot going on there. And I was
Speaker 3: reading that shit like damn because it God, damn, Drake.
Speaker 1: Let that.
Speaker 4: Thank you for that. Hey, hey, your boy, Uh, thank
Speaker 4: thank me for bringing the dog to you.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: No, it's all good, but that that was a trip,
Speaker 3: you know, And my whole thing was at that point.
Speaker 3: That's how I felt that I wanted to come and
Speaker 3: and and and be be with with him because I
Speaker 3: always looked up to him, be with him and help
Speaker 3: him if if that's what he needed or whatever he needed.
Speaker 3: That's what our job was to him, to help him
Speaker 3: get back on his feet. My job was to go
Speaker 3: get all of the records. I went and got all
Speaker 3: the samples for the chronic And what I would do
Speaker 3: is after I got the samples, I would take the motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: Because Dre and one eighty seven, they both showed me
Speaker 3: how to work there n PC sixty. So I started producing,
Speaker 3: like wanting to produce. So that's you know, Drey showed
Speaker 3: me some ship one eighty seven showed me some shit.
Speaker 3: So from there I just started sampling, no drums, nothing,
Speaker 3: just doing the raw sample. Or I would play a
Speaker 3: record for Drake, like, Dray, listen to this, you know,
Speaker 3: like let Me Ride. That was what a record from
Speaker 3: a They used to have these records called dub records,
Speaker 3: and they would have little spout spurts of uh like
Speaker 3: old songs and stuff like that, like that dune boom
Speaker 3: boom boom, Let Me Ride that was on a dub
Speaker 3: record and then uh uh swim I don't want to ride.
Speaker 3: I don't want to you know that part? Oh that
Speaker 3: was just on this one record. And he heard that.
Speaker 3: Shell said listen to Drake, he heard that ship. He
Speaker 3: was like, that ship is hard and he flipped that motherfucker.
Speaker 3: That's when he did. That's when he did the uh
Speaker 3: let Me Ride that was. That was that record and
Speaker 3: just a bunch of stuff, you know. I went to
Speaker 3: As the World Turned. It was on mail Roads. That's
Speaker 3: where I bought every record for the chronic that we
Speaker 3: was using. If the records that Drake didn't get, I
Speaker 3: had brought like all. I brought every black exploitation soundtrack
Speaker 3: that you could find. I bought all of that stuff.
Speaker 3: That's where the skit came from. I was telling you
Speaker 3: about them from the MAC. You really don't understand, do you.
Speaker 3: In order for us to make this thing work, you
Speaker 3: got to get rid of the pimps and the and
Speaker 3: start all of it. Because that's how I felt.
Speaker 1: I felt like like.
Speaker 4: The little brother talking to the big brother.
Speaker 3: That's what that was my whole mentality with that when
Speaker 3: I brought it to him, and then Drake added with niggas,
Speaker 3: you're crazy bubble boom won't boon't and then that he came.
Speaker 3: He did that beat coming in there, and then uh,
Speaker 3: even the boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom,
Speaker 3: break them off something break that came off a little
Speaker 3: bitty strip of a.
Speaker 1: Make the.
Speaker 3: Doom they had that app that album they got. It's
Speaker 3: a little bitty strip all the way down and just
Speaker 3: do that one sound duo.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 3: I was like, listen to this, and he was. He
Speaker 3: took that motherfucker and flipped it and then uh, just
Speaker 3: all like even to these nuts skit. I told Drake
Speaker 3: turned the mic on because we was looking for skits,
Speaker 3: like to do some skits. So I said, let me
Speaker 3: get my homegrow. I'm a caller, and that's when I
Speaker 3: called my homegirl and just and just started chopping it
Speaker 3: up with it and hear it with it. Because that
Speaker 3: was the big thing around that time, getting somebody and
Speaker 3: telling them these nuts, like, hey, nigga, guess what these nuts?
Speaker 1: That was our thing around that time.
Speaker 4: So global, yeah, yeah, So I got her and she
Speaker 4: was all shut up, nigga. But that was that was
Speaker 4: that was cool.
Speaker 3: That was fun doing that type of stuff. Like just
Speaker 3: a lot of the records on there. You know, I
Speaker 3: ain't I'm not taking no credit away from Dre. I
Speaker 3: never do that because he's a dope producer. He showed
Speaker 3: me a lot, you know. But I did bring I
Speaker 3: had a lot of input in that album, a lot
Speaker 3: of input. And that was our job to make Dra
Speaker 3: a superstar. That's what we wanted to do. That that
Speaker 3: was our thing.
Speaker 4: So me and Snoop started out. Then we brought in
Speaker 4: Nate and right.
Speaker 3: After Nate, actually Dads came him and Nate came at
Speaker 3: the same time. RBX came just a little bit later,
Speaker 3: but Corrupt had came right after Dazz and Nate came
Speaker 3: there and came Corrupt, and that that started. I brought
Speaker 3: him to death fro because I met actually, me and
Speaker 3: Snoop we met Corrupt at a battle at the Roxy
Speaker 3: where they was like this nigga Corrupt, like right here,
Speaker 3: he the hardest nigga in California, like da da da.
Speaker 4: So we're like, no, he the hardest nigga in California.
Speaker 3: So it was like, what's up?
Speaker 1: Like, what's up?
Speaker 3: So we formed a little circle. Niggas got down on
Speaker 3: one knee and start busting, and that motherfucking that nigga
Speaker 3: Corrupt said you gotta bring on your pinky finger, and
Speaker 3: that's true, but if you look at mine, I got
Speaker 3: one too. I said, whoah shit, and then Snooper hit
Speaker 3: him back with something. He hit it. It was nobody
Speaker 3: could win. So we was just like, you know what
Speaker 3: we got, we gotta call this one. It's just it's
Speaker 3: pretty much a tie. And uh so I crept over
Speaker 3: to the side. I said, Corrupt, let me get your
Speaker 3: phone number. So I got his number, and we was
Speaker 3: living with Dre at that time, but we was just
Speaker 3: out on the street, just anything hip hop, and we
Speaker 3: was trying to be a part of it. So we
Speaker 3: was out in the street still even though we was
Speaker 3: with with Dre. So I told corrupt, I said, look,
Speaker 3: I called him, I said, man, come up to the studio.
Speaker 3: I want to do a demo for you, you know,
Speaker 3: do some songs on you. So I did like four,
Speaker 3: four or five songs on him, did him. And then
Speaker 3: as soon as I got through from doing it. The
Speaker 3: way I used to record was crazy because I would
Speaker 3: just push the record on the on the tape deck
Speaker 3: because it was routed into the board and everything. So
Speaker 3: every record straight to cassette tape because I didn't know
Speaker 3: how to work everything, and but I did learn how
Speaker 3: to splice and everything.
Speaker 4: Drake taught me that ship later on.
Speaker 1: But we recorded it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, the cassette,
Speaker 4: the cassette. Yeh, cassette tape.
Speaker 1: You were going straight in from the board. It was
Speaker 1: routed into the.
Speaker 4: It was routed into the cassette deck.
Speaker 2: It was you will be playing your music and record
Speaker 2: all at the same time from the drum machine right
Speaker 2: into the It was routed to the board into the
Speaker 2: the cassette.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So you couldn't make no mistake wasn't no overdose.
Speaker 1: Know you got you ain't no stopping the start, just
Speaker 1: keep going, just keep going. We we did a few.
Speaker 4: Ship songs like that.
Speaker 3: Me and Snoop did a gang and ship like that
Speaker 3: too up there at the studio, and so uh I
Speaker 3: did the records for Corrupt. It was like five of them.
Speaker 4: And then I let Dre and Sugar hear that ship
Speaker 4: and they immediately wanted to sign him, like we want
Speaker 4: to sign this nigga. So boom there go Corrupt. He
Speaker 4: came so and then after that then Snoop brought rbx
Speaker 4: rbx up and that was like like all like came
Speaker 4: through me, like all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: Came to me.
Speaker 4: And then and then actually even the Bushwick skit, he.
Speaker 3: His eyes is me and all are more than three.
Speaker 3: Cause that week I started fucking with bush Wick. I
Speaker 3: forgot we was on. It was on a humbug, and
Speaker 3: I told him I think he might have been over
Speaker 3: at the Idol Joe's story. He was somewhere where we
Speaker 3: bumped Tess with him, but we was dealing with rap
Speaker 3: a Lot already. He with the convicts and uh Jay Prince.
Speaker 3: Then from uh rap a Lot, they was the convicts
Speaker 3: was supposed to. I guess Sugar and Jay Prince had
Speaker 3: a deal or harry O had to deal Sug Jay
Speaker 3: Harryo had a deal with the con wanted to get
Speaker 3: the convicts signed. So they was coming down and we
Speaker 3: took him in like brothers and worked with them, and
Speaker 3: they became tight with us. And that's how we bumped
Speaker 3: hes with Bushwick and we brought his ass Bushwick up
Speaker 3: into the the studios.
Speaker 1: It was random that he was. He had an intro
Speaker 1: on the crime.
Speaker 3: We brought him. We brought him up in there.
Speaker 4: We brought him up in there and he we had
Speaker 4: him do a skip for us right there. Drake put
Speaker 4: the mic on, gave him the chair.
Speaker 1: So get.
Speaker 3: That was our That was my dog.
Speaker 1: That was our dog.
Speaker 3: Because we became tight, you know, we became real tight.
Speaker 3: Bush Wick was my that was my dog. I took
Speaker 3: him everywhere. You know, warn I'm too short forlong conversations.
Speaker 3: And he got drunk one time. I was like bush Whig,
Speaker 3: come on, man, I'm talking about I was like, you
Speaker 3: drunk too much.
Speaker 5: But so your story honestly feels like Eddie and Charlie
Speaker 5: Murphy because obviously your brother he got there so quick
Speaker 5: he got into a space and most people don't understand
Speaker 5: that with success and with stardom, no matter how close
Speaker 5: you want to be to shit, you just can't. At
Speaker 5: some point you're going to get to a space where
Speaker 5: that's not your everyday living. So somebody connected to you,
Speaker 5: it's kind of living through you, and it's part of
Speaker 5: the lifestyle, you know what I'm saying. So when you
Speaker 5: tell your stories, you having your big brother that's super cracking.
Speaker 5: Everybody know him, and it goes into oh, you know
Speaker 5: that straight little brother. Yeah, and now you everywhere and
Speaker 5: you literally are gathering the people to bring them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to build Yeah. That only people that didn't come
Speaker 3: through me was Rage and Juel and they actually I
Speaker 3: knew Rage already and I mean Jewel, but I didn't
Speaker 3: mean Raged till later.
Speaker 4: And they became tight with us. You know, we became
Speaker 4: a family. We was a tight family.
Speaker 3: And our job was just to get in that studio
Speaker 3: about ten, nine, ten in the morning. We stay in
Speaker 3: there till about five or six the next morning. At
Speaker 3: that time, are you thinking any from a business standpoint,
Speaker 3: like I'm bringing these people in and of course, the
Speaker 3: the goal is the goal is dre whatever, all things
Speaker 3: dre right. But at any point in your mind are
Speaker 3: you thinking, as I'm bringing all this shit in, I
Speaker 3: got to make sure I'm tied into some of this
Speaker 3: ship too, or if for you it was just like,
Speaker 3: I don't care however it gets cracking. I just need
Speaker 3: to get this ship cracked.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking like that. My My mindset was like,
Speaker 3: if I put in all this work and just put
Speaker 3: in a bunch of work, they gonna make sure that
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be all right. You know, they gonna make
Speaker 3: sure I'm gonna be cool. I ain't got to worry
Speaker 3: about it because you know, I'm living with him.
Speaker 4: I used to be.
Speaker 3: We was like best friends, me and Drake pretty much
Speaker 3: around that time because I used to drive him, drive
Speaker 3: him around. I don't want to say, uh, well he
Speaker 3: usould you know, we drive I drive him just to
Speaker 3: you know, when he was he was single, so I
Speaker 3: would drive him to some of his women's places and
Speaker 3: ship and while we're there, I would ask her like, look,
Speaker 3: you got a friend, so but uh.
Speaker 1: We was we was we was tight. You know, we
Speaker 1: was tight.
Speaker 4: But like I said, that was our goal to build
Speaker 4: him up.
Speaker 3: And I wish I did have have a business mind
Speaker 3: set back then and knew about publishing and like everything
Speaker 3: that went on, so I could have got some type
Speaker 3: of conversation for the work that I did put in.
Speaker 4: But I didn't get nothing.
Speaker 1: Did you?
Speaker 2: Did you know that he was having a tough time
Speaker 2: when you guys got up there and we were trying
Speaker 2: to you know, never never.
Speaker 3: Looked at it like that. I never looked at it
Speaker 3: and had it because yeah, that ship was it was
Speaker 3: big flop. It wasn't a lot of furniture number. We
Speaker 3: didn't give a fuck. We was having a ball.
Speaker 1: Pool. Yeah, nineteen years old. You go to your big
Speaker 1: brother's mansion. You don't care what's in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we ain't asked nothing. We was just we were
Speaker 3: just we didn't care. It is what it is, whatever, whatever,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, that's that's just how he was.
Speaker 3: But you know, like I said, though, I wish I
Speaker 3: would have knew about that stuff, you know, because you know,
Speaker 3: he wasn't really the guy behind the business part that part.
Speaker 3: It was sug that was behind that part. And I
Speaker 3: wish I would have knew uh and and had my
Speaker 3: name attached to it, you know, So just sh had
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty million that they sold a little
Speaker 3: piece of it for it. I was like, God, damn,
Speaker 3: I could have got a little piece out of that.
Speaker 3: I ain't asking for a lot, just a taste that
Speaker 3: over there. That's that's a nice piece of change. It's
Speaker 3: a nice one.
Speaker 4: Twenty yeah, take that twenty meal.
Speaker 3: Warn you helped out a lot, and we bet my
Speaker 3: are bad. We didn't. We didn't give you no credit.
Speaker 3: But here you go, thanks because you brought a lot
Speaker 3: to us and you saved this motherfucking Look.
Speaker 1: Now you've got a family tree. That's incredible.
Speaker 3: Your branches, snoop, dass corrupt our x eminem fifty cent.
Speaker 3: All that come off my branch when you had another
Speaker 3: branch before it was above the law. His branch had
Speaker 3: above the law in w A and this that and
Speaker 3: this and and I added my my branch came up,
Speaker 3: came and got on Dre's tree. So that opened up
Speaker 3: for like I said, Eminem fifty snoop, all the artists
Speaker 3: that came after that, that he was part of that
Speaker 3: that that we opened it back up for him to
Speaker 3: be able to bring all that that back to the
Speaker 3: back into the music.
Speaker 1: So how long did it take for the Chronics to
Speaker 1: come out?
Speaker 4: Uh shit, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't.
Speaker 4: It wasn't a long time. It wasn't long at all.
Speaker 4: Because the whole chronic was inspired off of the riots.
Speaker 1: I promise you listen the skits.
Speaker 3: That whole the whole.
Speaker 4: Thing was was and that was dope with Drake did
Speaker 4: that skid?
Speaker 3: Uh uh North, Look this little African I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: a dead motherfucker.
Speaker 4: That ship was dope as fuck. Little ghetto boy brought
Speaker 4: that so deeply listening to.
Speaker 1: This deep cover before the cover, before all of that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so that's the first.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the first because we was we was
Speaker 3: just doing music, just messing around, thinking about what we
Speaker 3: was gonna do. And then shuld came like a soundtrack. Uh,
Speaker 3: we want you to do a something. I want Drey
Speaker 3: to do a song for a soundtrack. So Snoop was like, ship,
Speaker 3: I'll write it, you know, and he wrote it. He
Speaker 3: wrote deep cover, well, he wrote Dre's parts on there.
Speaker 3: They put him and Snoop did a collaboration on there
Speaker 3: and he wrote he wrote Drake parts and that ship blew.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 4: And then after that is when the riots.
Speaker 3: The riots kicked in, and that ship was so fun
Speaker 3: show because it was like how they're trying to do
Speaker 3: right now. I guess the peace treaties they're trying to
Speaker 3: do right now on the streets. It was like that,
Speaker 3: but it was like we it was a party every
Speaker 3: motherfucking day. A party in the nickoson is a party
Speaker 3: on the east side along with your party here. So
Speaker 3: we was partying everywhere like bloods, crips, yeah, everything. It
Speaker 3: was just it was fun, women everywhere and uh like
Speaker 3: a lot of that that's ain't no fun came from that.
Speaker 4: All that ship came came from that.
Speaker 3: Some crazy shit going on too, like as far as
Speaker 3: you know, people getting ribbed and you know, all kinds
Speaker 3: of stuff. So we was seeing and all kinds of ship.
Speaker 3: But it it uh that and all of that inspired
Speaker 3: everything on the.
Speaker 4: Crime on the mm hmm.
Speaker 5: So as you guys are now now, y'all gotta you're
Speaker 5: part of a bona fide hit, bona fide hit, which is,
Speaker 5: in my opinion, the greatest rap album of all time
Speaker 5: to me, that is that's my opinion.
Speaker 1: I think The Chronic is the greatest of all time.
Speaker 5: Thank you, you know, what I mean for your contribution
Speaker 5: to that. And you know, I definitely have yelled these
Speaker 5: nuts to a million girls that at that age, I'm
Speaker 5: probably like eleven, I'm just saying it to them, just
Speaker 5: thinking it's the randomst ship Ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, relaxed, you gotta random. You don't even know what
Speaker 2: this comes from. You got you ain't never heard the chronic.
Speaker 1: So so now it's Snoops turned. So does it is?
Speaker 5: Is it the same attention? Make dreda superstar? Now make
Speaker 5: Snoop the superstar? Is that's kind of the same thing
Speaker 5: that happens within the label and everybody that's the crew
Speaker 5: that's there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely all hands on that. Yeah, everybody go from here,
Speaker 3: like from working with him to go on here. But
Speaker 3: in between that is when.
Speaker 1: My separation came between before Doggy Style.
Speaker 3: Before dogs like right before a Doggy Style, because everybody
Speaker 3: was still surviving off the success of the Chronic. So
Speaker 3: it just it just got to a point where it
Speaker 3: was like people, everybody start getting signed and I you know,
Speaker 3: this might be one of the reasons why things wasn't,
Speaker 3: you know, like it was supposed to be, because I
Speaker 3: was I wasn't smart, uh business minded as in royalties
Speaker 3: and this, that and this. But when it came to
Speaker 3: everybody signing that contract, I told him, I said, look,
Speaker 3: you guys have a lawyer. Look at this shit like
Speaker 3: I know this is my brother and this is Shug
Speaker 3: and all these people. We love these dudes, but still
Speaker 3: have a lawyer. Look at it. It came from Dick
Speaker 3: Griffy to contract. So we was like, you know, we
Speaker 3: need to get a lawyer. And then you know a
Speaker 3: person had when told them that, I told everybody to
Speaker 3: get a lawyer. Contract, so immediately that put you on out.
Speaker 3: He came up, sure came running out that motherfuckering we're
Speaker 3: warning that blood. I took off, but I couldn't get
Speaker 3: down because it was the elevator or something.
Speaker 1: I'm hitting building. Yeah, so on the third floor, so
Speaker 1: you can't get that, you gotta I'm hitting that.
Speaker 3: Motherfucker trying to get down and uh and uh he
Speaker 3: called me, grabbed me, put me up against the wall.
Speaker 4: Like blood, you told him not to sign that contract,
Speaker 4: said she.
Speaker 3: I said, look, better get your hands off me, because
Speaker 3: when you let me go, I'm calling all my homeboys.
Speaker 3: So we used to bump heads. We bompd heirs a
Speaker 3: couple of times just bumping head, so that that probably
Speaker 3: was like but we was cool. But I guess when
Speaker 3: it came down to everybody really being a part of
Speaker 3: this thing, it was like, we ain't got no spot
Speaker 3: for you. So I was I was crushed.
Speaker 4: I went got at Drake like what's up, man, Like
Speaker 4: what's happening?
Speaker 1: Like what's going on?
Speaker 3: It's like, just go be your own man. It just
Speaker 3: don't even get involved in this shit. Just be your
Speaker 3: own man and do your thing. So I'm like you
Speaker 3: just imagine I look up to you, you my dog,
Speaker 3: like my best friend. You are my best friend. Uh,
Speaker 3: everybody else there and Nate and Dads corrupt everybody. I
Speaker 3: can't do nothing. I can't be with these niggas building
Speaker 3: and trying to do this and do that. So I
Speaker 3: was like fuck it, you know, I left, but then
Speaker 3: I was still coming around. And actually me coming around
Speaker 3: is what introduced me to getting my first placement because
Speaker 3: I came to the studio with Snoop and Drake and
Speaker 3: John Singleton and uh, Paul Stewart came in looking.
Speaker 1: For songs for the Poet of Justice sale.
Speaker 3: So I was I got at him like, look, let
Speaker 3: me play this record for you can you know, So
Speaker 3: me and Paul went to the car, popped the cassette
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 1: He was like hold up, you know.
Speaker 3: As soon as he that's probably maybe like fifteen twenty seconds,
Speaker 3: he was like, hold up, can I take this with me?
Speaker 3: I said hell yeah, And I said, just give me
Speaker 3: my ship back, you know, I want it back, and.
Speaker 1: Took it.
Speaker 3: Called me a few days after that, I said, we
Speaker 3: want this to be the first single to h the
Speaker 3: Poet of Justice soundtrack, and that was indo smoke and shit.
Speaker 3: I thought I was rich. So they said we're gonna
Speaker 3: get you a d rich. I think I got maybe
Speaker 3: like twenty some thousand dollars for doing that that song
Speaker 3: it was with mister Griham. I think he got maybe
Speaker 3: like twenty five. I got twenty five. But hey, yeah
Speaker 3: that was perfect.
Speaker 1: Then on the hook and that's and I brought Nate in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I brought Nate in and uh ship that opened
Speaker 3: up the doors and and uh you know that opened
Speaker 3: up the doors. And right after that, John and and
Speaker 3: John and Paul got a call from a bunch of
Speaker 3: companies was calling them. But Paul was was really tight
Speaker 3: with with Death Jam. So Death Jam was chiming in,
Speaker 3: like we want to talk to the guy who did
Speaker 3: end or Smoke. So they was like, because it was
Speaker 3: mister grim already signed, you know, mister Griham wasn't.
Speaker 4: He wasn't signed. So neither one of your we wasn't
Speaker 4: signed with.
Speaker 1: A soundtrack placement. Yeah.
Speaker 5: See people don't, especially back then. Yeah, what that meant
Speaker 5: the first single to a major movie. Yeah, because they
Speaker 5: really was working those yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And both of the artists that are on the song
Speaker 5: are actually two of the artists on the song. I
Speaker 5: signed because Nate was death Bro.
Speaker 1: No, Nate was not with everybody then.
Speaker 3: Oh Ship, so we uh death Jam called and they
Speaker 3: was like, we want we liked, we liked the guys.
Speaker 3: The guy on the h on Endo in those smoke,
Speaker 3: I'm on the call with him. We like the guy
Speaker 3: on the Endose smoke. We want to sign him and this,
Speaker 3: that and this. So I was like, damn, I'm still
Speaker 3: was charged up because I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna get
Speaker 3: the I'm producing this whole album here. They can't tell
Speaker 3: me Ship. They was like the guy that that that
Speaker 3: uh had like the singing melody to his voice while
Speaker 3: he was rapping.
Speaker 4: He that's that's the guy right there.
Speaker 3: We want him at death Jam And I said, you mean,
Speaker 3: you know, hey in hell excel with my flow that guy.
Speaker 4: They was like yeah, I said that's me.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, that's me. He was like, well, we
Speaker 1: want to sign you.
Speaker 4: And I was like, you see, he's like yeah.
Speaker 3: I said, all right, Ship.
Speaker 1: Let's go and yeah to act like it wasn't him
Speaker 1: at first, which one you're talking about? Because I was
Speaker 1: the guy, so he was the guy.
Speaker 3: So I was like, shit, you know, I done graduated.
Speaker 3: I got an artist that's gonna get signed. And when
Speaker 3: he said it was me, I was like, oh, Ship.
Speaker 1: And uh.
Speaker 3: After that they came flew to La Chris Lighty, Tracy
Speaker 3: Wapples and Leo or Cohen flew to La. We went
Speaker 3: went to steakhouse, had some good food.
Speaker 1: Because are you living with dre Still no at this point,
Speaker 1: you know, at this point, at.
Speaker 3: That point, I was back in the hood. I was
Speaker 3: living with my sister on a Cedar street called Cedar
Speaker 3: and Long Beach. I was sleeping on the floor. Now,
Speaker 3: all I had was my crate, which was a bunch
Speaker 3: of the records from the chronic I had used to
Speaker 3: carry that crate everywhere.
Speaker 1: That crate.
Speaker 3: I still got that crate too, that crate, my my
Speaker 3: technique twelve hundred and my NPC sixty. That's all I
Speaker 3: had because I back then was just I was just
Speaker 3: a sampler as far as production wise.
Speaker 4: And that's that set it off. That set it off,
Speaker 4: and uh I did to deal with deaf Jam.
Speaker 3: They get I think my my budget was like three
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand or something like that, and that
Speaker 3: it was like, that was amazing album, a whole album.
Speaker 3: But look what I did that. They was like, well,
Speaker 3: we want to set up the studio time and it's
Speaker 3: I said, no, no, no, I said, I'm gonna get
Speaker 3: my own studio.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get my own equipment. I'm going right. I
Speaker 4: went right to nay Dean's and guess who sold me
Speaker 4: my equipment.
Speaker 3: Todd Dollars.
Speaker 4: Sign's daddy.
Speaker 3: No Tyrone his name, that's that's Ti Dollars Tyrone, his
Speaker 3: dad sold me my first equipment.
Speaker 1: So the whole regulated album is done in your apartment.
Speaker 3: Done in my apartment, right in the right into my
Speaker 3: bedroom and the bathroom was the vocal book. Vocal Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was crazy. But the song Regulate. Actually that came
Speaker 3: from uh I was. I was, I'm a super record digger,
Speaker 3: so I'll go to any record store no matter where
Speaker 3: I see it. I'm oh shit, I'll pull over and
Speaker 3: going that motherfucker just start digging and buy records. So
Speaker 3: I was on my way home one night, getting ready
Speaker 3: to go back to my apartment, and I was in
Speaker 3: Hollywood and I stopped at h Roscos and it was
Speaker 3: a dude out in front of Roscos with incensus shit
Speaker 3: burning and.
Speaker 1: He was just trying to make some money.
Speaker 4: So he was selling shit and he had a credit record,
Speaker 4: credit create record.
Speaker 3: So I said, I said, you selling those? He was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I sell them for two dollars for a record, and this,
Speaker 3: that and this. So I said, nigga, I want to
Speaker 3: buy the whole CRK. So I was laced him poop
Speaker 3: poop poop. I think I gave him like five hundred
Speaker 3: dollars and I took the whole credit records and I
Speaker 3: took that shit home and was digging through the records.
Speaker 3: I knew, uh uh keep forgetting from my parents' point,
Speaker 3: but I was refreshed again when I dug through my
Speaker 3: records and playing them and I was like.
Speaker 4: Damn boom boom boom.
Speaker 3: I said, oh my god, if I flipped this, I
Speaker 3: flipped that motherfucker immediately. I've sampled it in parts, and
Speaker 3: I had it all in parts, and I put it together,
Speaker 3: put the samples together, put the drums together.
Speaker 4: So I pieced it all together, but I didn't have.
Speaker 4: All I had was the beat.
Speaker 1: That was it.
Speaker 3: So around that time, we used to have a saying
Speaker 3: where we were like, we gotta regulate this, but we
Speaker 3: got to regulate the situation. Hey, y'all got to regulate.
Speaker 3: That was our.
Speaker 4: Gotta regulation ship. So I was like, I'm gonna call
Speaker 4: this ship regulate.
Speaker 3: I had the title before Nate even got on the
Speaker 3: record on the record, so I had to think of
Speaker 3: like something that I could put on there as an introduction,
Speaker 3: like how we was doing on the chronic, like we
Speaker 3: would do introductions with the skits or whatever.
Speaker 1: So I had.
Speaker 3: I was watching Young Guns, uh, with Emilio Estevez and
Speaker 3: those guys. I was watching Young Guns and I came
Speaker 3: across the park where the guy said we worked for
Speaker 3: mister Tinsdale's regulators. When he said that ship, I kept listen,
Speaker 3: my shit opened up, like my eyes was like, he said,
Speaker 3: we regulated, and he's still in this he said, we
Speaker 3: worked for mister Tendale's Tensdale's regulators.
Speaker 4: Uh we regulate, uh we regulated it something.
Speaker 3: I can't remember everything, but I took though I chopped
Speaker 3: up each part though it didn't say that. And if
Speaker 3: you listen to the original when he say something, he
Speaker 3: says some other ship before he say, uh, we regulate
Speaker 3: anything that is probably we're damn good. All those were pieces.
Speaker 3: I put that together just yeah, yeah, earn you keep boop.
Speaker 3: I hit this one, took that part boom, sampled that part,
Speaker 3: sampled that part, and I put them together. And what
Speaker 3: I did was I remember the numbers on the VCR,
Speaker 3: and I took the quarter. I went from quarter inch
Speaker 3: out of the VCR into my NPC sixty. I mean
Speaker 3: I went from r C A to quarterings into to
Speaker 3: my NPC sixty. And that's how I sampled everything from
Speaker 3: up off the v OFF and that ship that when
Speaker 3: I played that ship for death Jam, they was like
Speaker 3: damn they they couldn't believe it. But I still think
Speaker 3: they wasn't like they wasn't like into yeah. So I
Speaker 3: made all of that ship up and I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: So I was like, I kept doing music. I had
Speaker 3: into smoke. It was bubbling everywhere. We had the whole
Speaker 3: are you shows?
Speaker 1: Are you? And mister yeah, we was doing shows.
Speaker 4: Actually that was that that uh that that got kind
Speaker 4: of ugly.
Speaker 3: We was doing shows and uh Graham started doing shows
Speaker 3: without us and and doing indoor smoke, you know, doing
Speaker 3: all kinds of shit. So we like, damn, what's up?
Speaker 3: Like that's why west us together? Let you know, let
Speaker 3: us eat too. So me and him started doing gigs
Speaker 3: and then Nate wasn't involved. So Nate got pissed off
Speaker 3: about it, and uh so we Griham was with me.
Speaker 3: I swear to God out of and set him up
Speaker 3: or nothing like that. But he was with me, and
Speaker 3: we pulled up at Snoop. So I'm not thinking that
Speaker 3: that Nate gonna be tripping. So Nate got off the car,
Speaker 3: I mean he got out. He came down from the
Speaker 3: Snoop's apartment, came down to the car and just started
Speaker 3: tripping on mister Griham, like nigga, what's up? So and
Speaker 3: then Joe Cool and they they roughed him up. Oh,
Speaker 3: ship roughed him up, And I felt bad because I'm like,
Speaker 3: but I was like, no, no, you know Trump, you know,
Speaker 3: in the mix of it, like get back man, yo.
Speaker 3: But he was doing some he was doing some things
Speaker 3: that wasn't cool, and I I was crushed about that
Speaker 3: because Graham was Graham was my guy. But I'm like,
Speaker 3: you can't. You can't do that, man, you gotta. We're
Speaker 3: we're a team. We when all these niggas that's around,
Speaker 3: we family, We tight.
Speaker 1: We don't do that.
Speaker 4: We don't cut nobody throat. We just we work together.
Speaker 1: So you can't do that.
Speaker 3: And you know, that's what I talked about on this
Speaker 3: do you see on my on the on the Regulate
Speaker 3: the Gfunk Care album.
Speaker 4: But that was that was a whole nother uh.
Speaker 1: Thing that happened.
Speaker 3: But after that, uh, like I said, you know, death Jam,
Speaker 3: I still kind of felt like because I was from
Speaker 3: the West Coast, it was like, yeah, you know, but
Speaker 3: they knew they wanted to work with me because of
Speaker 3: the style I had, and so I was the type
Speaker 3: and I'm still like that that. I was like, I'm pushed.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna push regardless whether they pushing for me or not.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna push. So I ended up going to the
Speaker 3: studio or with dra You know, I had into smoke cracking.
Speaker 3: I was cool. I wasn't tripping or nothing. So I
Speaker 3: will still go hang out with Drake, hang out with
Speaker 3: snooping them here and there, pop up at the studio.
Speaker 3: When hung out with Dre and uh, Mike Linn was
Speaker 3: one of his guys. Uh, I said, Mike, I just
Speaker 3: did the bomb ass song with Nate. I want you
Speaker 3: to hear.
Speaker 4: So I went to the car, same ship, went to
Speaker 4: the car, put the tape.
Speaker 3: You know it was a CD.
Speaker 4: This time, my step my game up.
Speaker 3: Then that guy was able to get a car from
Speaker 3: the from the budget and uh, so I had a
Speaker 3: CD player and played it and Mike Linn was like, man,
Speaker 3: and that shit is banged. He said, let me play
Speaker 3: this song for Jimmy kennots. I said, hell yeah, play
Speaker 3: it for him. So he played it for Jimmy because
Speaker 3: he was in charge of getting the talent for the soundtrack.
Speaker 4: So he took the ship to Jimmy.
Speaker 3: Jimmy heard it and was like called and and was like,
Speaker 3: we want this to be the first single on the
Speaker 3: Blood of Rim soundtrack. I was like, and it was regulate.
Speaker 3: So that's when sug and rustling all them, that's when
Speaker 3: they had to had had to talk, you know, and
Speaker 3: it kind of became like a pissing contest, I guess
Speaker 3: you could say. But they had to roll with the
Speaker 3: punches wrestling because this is these guys are these are
Speaker 3: my guys, and I want to do this with her,
Speaker 3: you know, So they had to roll with it and
Speaker 3: it became the first single, which it blew. It was
Speaker 3: good for us, It was good for us at death Jam.
Speaker 3: So we did the butter rim came out regular set
Speaker 3: it off the whole thing, so like four million. I
Speaker 3: ain't never got a royalty check from that from above
Speaker 3: and Ram either never got a royalty check, never got
Speaker 3: a royalty check check from above to Ram. I've never
Speaker 3: seen that shit on my ship from above A Ram.
Speaker 3: I get him now, but I don't get him from
Speaker 3: that from that never. So when I get a check
Speaker 3: from death Row, it'll be twenty of some crazy shit.
Speaker 5: So because that's what I was gonna ask too. With
Speaker 5: the sample at that point, I don't think it was
Speaker 5: the thing. At that point, are you guys having to
Speaker 5: clear samples or No?
Speaker 3: Well, with the with the keep forgetting, we had we
Speaker 3: had to clear that with the Doobie Brothers and Michael McDonald.
Speaker 3: So what it What how I got split was I
Speaker 3: had twenty five percent, Nate had Nate and death Row
Speaker 3: Will sure had twenty five percent, of Doobie Brothers twenty
Speaker 3: five percent, and Michael McDonald twenty five percent. But Michael
Speaker 3: McDonald was getting the Doobies in him. So that's how
Speaker 3: that that's how we was all split up.
Speaker 1: So but.
Speaker 4: For some reason, I don't know what what happened, but
Speaker 4: you never I've never gotten over.
Speaker 1: You did have album rights yea, and was able to
Speaker 1: put watch this twist. This is why Star Money podcast
Speaker 1: this business.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is why I started getting brutal because death
Speaker 3: Jam had and Sugar and Russell they outslicked uh uh Sugar.
Speaker 3: Now they was like, Okay, this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 3: They said, Okay, the soundtrack boom set it off boomers.
Speaker 3: That's cracking. We took to regulate single, repackaged everything, and
Speaker 3: then we re released it again as my single, and
Speaker 3: and it was the first single off my single and
Speaker 3: then my ship sold for a million records, so regularly
Speaker 3: helped sell eight million records. Probably move I'm sure I'm
Speaker 3: just saying between two different albums. Yeah, and in the
Speaker 3: process of that is when I on top of that,
Speaker 3: I dropped this DJ Like right right when that was cracking,
Speaker 3: I dropped this on top of it. Boom boom boom
Speaker 3: boom boom boom. They was like wow and New York
Speaker 3: Arms was like they was loving the love to New York. Yeah,
Speaker 3: give me give me the year that.
Speaker 1: So def jam UMG is not sending any royalties from
Speaker 1: the UMG.
Speaker 3: Those These are other companies I wanted all as BMG. Okay,
Speaker 3: in the in the midnight hour was a company called Hajana,
Speaker 3: which was through Red. But the head guy, I guess
Speaker 3: now I don't know if I guess was Sony Red.
Speaker 3: I think it was Sony Red or Red Records or
Speaker 3: something like. It was something like Big Red or Red
Speaker 3: something like that. Now the head guy, uh, his name was.
Speaker 3: He went to the FEDS. So that album got lost
Speaker 3: in the shuffle to. When I looked recently, I'm like,
Speaker 3: who in the fuck is Peppermint? Because I'm owner in
Speaker 3: those masters, that's my masters, So where the fuck is
Speaker 3: my money at with this ship? You know, I've been
Speaker 3: uh not.
Speaker 4: Own it.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean like saying like because I'm
Speaker 3: like this ship ain't nothing but the headache. So I'll
Speaker 3: be like, fuck it, I ain't tripping, but that I
Speaker 3: ain't tripping is I should be?
Speaker 5: Trust Honestly, where most of these major corporations bank on, Yeah,
Speaker 5: they don't want to go through the whole process.
Speaker 2: So that I got caught up in that and the
Speaker 2: costs litigation costs. Yeah, that's how the big bank take
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm my master publishing. All that ship is mine.
Speaker 3: I never that's all. That's my ship. And I got
Speaker 3: offered like back in the day, I got offered publishing
Speaker 3: deals for like a three hundred and fifty thousand, five
Speaker 3: hundred thousand. That was a lot in the back then.
Speaker 4: And I was like, damn, if this motherfucker want to
Speaker 4: give me that ship, what can I make?
Speaker 3: So went on tour. It was me r Kelly uh
Speaker 3: heavy d uh Me R Kelly heavy d Coolio the
Speaker 3: brat Ali was on tour with us. Uh damn.
Speaker 4: Who else was on tour was heavy boys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we was all on. It was an out haming
Speaker 3: tour for great great dude, Like, I mean incredible when
Speaker 3: they when they asked me to be a part of
Speaker 3: the tour. He sent me like ten bottles of chrystal,
Speaker 3: a big ass thing of flowers just in the house
Speaker 3: fruit trays. I mean like it was shipped everywhere, and uh,
Speaker 3: just a cool dude, period. He made it everything laid
Speaker 3: out for me. I was on tour and I had
Speaker 3: an accountant. I had account before that that robbed me.
Speaker 3: I turned with one of my guys, turned me onto
Speaker 3: an accountant to where I gave him a you know,
Speaker 3: authority to sign for me for checks and shit like that.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, Dann, where the fuck is all my
Speaker 3: money going? You know, I was getting a little money
Speaker 3: here and there, but I'm like, damn, where's my shit going?
Speaker 3: And so I left him, got with an accountant. I
Speaker 3: made sure with that account I said, no sign and
Speaker 3: no checks mailed me my shit, And so they mailed
Speaker 3: me checks and stuff to sign because I had a
Speaker 3: little bit of bread from the death jam shit my
Speaker 3: budget and all that stuff. But I had Finally I
Speaker 3: got a royalty check and I was like, what the
Speaker 3: fuck is this? Like, you know, there was a lot
Speaker 3: of money, so I'm like, you mean to tell me
Speaker 3: this is what the fuck I made from doing my
Speaker 3: music and this, that and there. So I was like,
Speaker 3: damn that I really started going with Ham or Ham
Speaker 3: after that that said, oh, I'm in the studio every
Speaker 3: motherfucking day now, ship, So did you.
Speaker 1: Produce every song on that first album?
Speaker 3: Every song? Yeah, every every album you heard from me
Speaker 3: for every song, every song. Yeah, I did a lot.
Speaker 1: For for me.
Speaker 3: Record.
Speaker 1: That's why when he looked at that royal, he said, I.
Speaker 3: Wish I could have seen one of them chrownic royalty checks. Though, God,
Speaker 3: I need you know what I need to produce, man,
Speaker 3: my whole album do it? I need to just do
Speaker 3: I think it's time that. Yeah, but he just never
Speaker 3: does the whole album. He never does the album. Well,
Speaker 3: I mean you get like help as far as like
Speaker 3: if you need guys, like with the drunk, if you
Speaker 3: want some drums, like different.
Speaker 6: No, you know what it is.
Speaker 2: I get inspired differently by other people's you know, other
Speaker 2: people's artistic expression. It sends me into different places. But
Speaker 2: I'm really good at making sure that the collection of
Speaker 2: music all Mary's. You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm
Speaker 2: really good at that. And then it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: when you just started taking on the workload, and then
Speaker 2: you add kids to it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like it's like do
Speaker 1: I have time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, believe me, I know it.
Speaker 2: I know when I was a kid, when you know,
Speaker 2: when I first got my NPC or first got my keyboard,
Speaker 2: first synthesized the Yeah, you know, I felt like in
Speaker 2: the moment I had a ride, I didn't know there
Speaker 2: was all of this stuff. Yeah, after the fact, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I never imagine, like as we
Speaker 2: sit here right now, I never imagine being here because
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what here was. Like when you
Speaker 2: look back on that and say, hey, man, I I
Speaker 2: just want to learn that, Yeah, did you ever imagine
Speaker 2: that you would be here and as influential as you are?
Speaker 1: Never?
Speaker 3: Never, never, never cross my mind like being you know,
Speaker 3: like because like people be like you a legend and this,
Speaker 3: that and this, and I'm like, damn, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't think I was gonna uh, I didn't know
Speaker 3: it was gonna turn out like this. But but my
Speaker 3: my whole thing was and I'm still like that is
Speaker 3: I just want people to hear hear my music and
Speaker 3: be inspired by it and the high I get out
Speaker 3: of it is when we can all be in that
Speaker 3: mother party and having a good time. You know, because
Speaker 3: when I do my shows, I tell them I'm like, shit,
Speaker 3: I ain't just here doing my show. I'm here. We
Speaker 3: were in here having a week. This is everything I'm
Speaker 3: up here because I talk to him at the same
Speaker 3: time while I'm on the stage, and I'm saying, we
Speaker 3: having a conversation with us here even though I'm doing
Speaker 3: this music, and I really just be talking to him
Speaker 3: like about a lot of ship, and then it'll end
Speaker 3: up turning in right to where it's slam right into
Speaker 3: it and may be like.
Speaker 4: Going crazy and I'm like ship.
Speaker 2: Like that that on getting on stage and having people,
Speaker 2: having people share the intent, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: like at the same time where it's like this is
Speaker 2: what I this is what I designed this for. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you're watching people actually look do it. It's like
Speaker 2: it's the coldest magic trick. Like I'm gonna I plan
Speaker 2: for your body to roll, yeah right right a minute
Speaker 2: in fifteen seconds, yeah and your body's rolling.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: What y'all know about my homeboy nd O double G Yeah, yeah, nobody.
Speaker 1: As a singer from the church as a as a
Speaker 1: singer from the church.
Speaker 3: Nate Dog.
Speaker 1: Is a full deacon. Yeah, he's straight out the.
Speaker 2: But but there's a certain there's a certain church. The
Speaker 2: voices are the voices are broken up in the sections, right.
Speaker 2: Nate Dog is definitely the least singer in the men's choir.
Speaker 2: The men was always men's was always the older man
Speaker 2: and it was always one of two guys and sing
Speaker 2: all the solos. There was the only two niggas they
Speaker 2: could sing. That's Nate Dog. Yes, how do you turn
Speaker 2: that voice into?
Speaker 1: When I met how? How does that happen? That's that's
Speaker 1: what you believe that.
Speaker 3: That's because we he came from the church. But then
Speaker 3: the street element, it was all ship though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: I remember when I first came out, when I first
Speaker 5: came to l A. We used to hoop when they dog, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: they dog would pull up in a limo.
Speaker 1: He had like a stretch. He had like a stretch.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't nobody else was limb.
Speaker 4: At the sublimo, so you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: It was like a stretch, like escalator.
Speaker 4: It was a suburban We all that the sublimo bro,
Speaker 4: you thought I was lying?
Speaker 1: Yeah's bob. He would pull up to the l a
Speaker 1: fitness bro in a stretched suburban. Come hold half Yeah
Speaker 1: I mean you feel me with him?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a blimo. Yeah yeah, it might have
Speaker 1: any with it. Yeah. He doing some work and that's
Speaker 1: a blimo.
Speaker 3: I get it, I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is really Nate Dog for y'all to see
Speaker 1: that put that voice in those spaces? Yeah, yeah, yeah, genius. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I took him and out the king of the hood.
Speaker 3: I will take him and and you know, I'll tell him, Nate,
Speaker 3: let's be different from everybody else.
Speaker 4: And he would just even he even sung.
Speaker 3: He I forgot how the song went, but he he
Speaker 3: While he was singing, then singing his verse, he added.
Speaker 4: That I have had the time of my life and girl, and.
Speaker 3: Then he said something true, it's the true. Oh that
Speaker 3: ship was cold. I got all of that stuff. I
Speaker 3: got records with me and him on on a that
Speaker 3: that I gotta. Yeah, I got crates. I got like
Speaker 3: three giant crates of just all the albums I did,
Speaker 3: all of this, all that ship.
Speaker 1: I did just and I just couldn't believe it. I
Speaker 1: think Deacon Nate Dog straight up.
Speaker 3: His mother. She don't mess with no wrap, no nothing,
Speaker 3: nothing but church directly, and she talked them to Tall.
Speaker 3: His whole family, her, his sisters, all his brothers, all
Speaker 3: of them came right out the church.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm that yeah, man, bless brother man. Yeah, an
Speaker 1: original one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got some.
Speaker 1: I got some songs.
Speaker 4: Uh, I got some records that that.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, he got a I got a song with
Speaker 3: him called old Girl.
Speaker 4: Oh, oh my god, if.
Speaker 3: I why not, it's dope. I mean, I'm gonna drop
Speaker 3: I'm gonna drop it. Why God, I'd be liking to
Speaker 3: just listen to the ship.
Speaker 1: You selfish man, to listen to it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put it together. We got another one. We
Speaker 3: got one called Baby Daddy. I know it gave me love,
Speaker 3: gave me sex. You let my friends see your breast.
Speaker 3: I let my friends. I'm stuck with you nonetheless, because I'm.
Speaker 1: Your baby dad.
Speaker 4: It's whole, it's all. I just have to put my
Speaker 4: vocals on it.
Speaker 6: But we did it.
Speaker 4: I actually I did, but I didn't like it. I
Speaker 4: didn't like my vocals.
Speaker 3: But if I redid it, I would change the music.
Speaker 3: I still keep you know, I'm you know, he gonna
Speaker 3: still I'll just figure out what note what what? What?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 3: What notes he's in and then build around Yeah we're
Speaker 3: key in my bad and then build around it.
Speaker 4: But but but Nate, they was a monster.
Speaker 1: You owe what's that? Bro?
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 6: Like that.
Speaker 4: Independent. I'm an independent guy.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: But just even what you're just saying, Yeah, I'm around nigga.
Speaker 1: You heard this new nigga sex it? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna put it together. Man, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna put it together.
Speaker 3: I got it. I got a lot of dope records
Speaker 3: ship that people ain't heard. That's really dope.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: I just love doing it, man, love just just you know,
Speaker 3: that's all just what I love to do. Just get
Speaker 3: in the studio, like the chemistry when I get in
Speaker 3: the studio with me and Snoop and the dog Pound,
Speaker 3: all of us, Rage and Joel, when we all in
Speaker 3: the studio RBX. Our ship is just the idea just
Speaker 3: comes out of like it could be anything, you know,
Speaker 3: somebody could could drop something on the floor or something.
Speaker 3: The idea come out of that, like we got a
Speaker 3: we got a song. Called joystick. We playing the motherfucking
Speaker 3: Xbox Nate till the engineer hold up, turn the mic on,
Speaker 3: because it was the beat was playing and we were
Speaker 3: just listening because we were me and he was working
Speaker 3: on the album at that time and the music playing,
Speaker 3: so he like, he said stop, turn on the microphone.
Speaker 3: So he turned the microphone on. He went right in there,
Speaker 3: put the joystick down, and when it when as soon
Speaker 3: as it started.
Speaker 6: She said, she wants to ride my joystick. She wants
Speaker 6: to ride she wants to ride it. Act like she
Speaker 6: won't and ride my joy stick.
Speaker 1: We was like.
Speaker 3: While we after we stopped the game, he stopped and
Speaker 3: told the engineer turn the mic on and went right
Speaker 3: in there and recorded that ship.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, that's the that's the
Speaker 2: magic of making music. That that I pray that we
Speaker 2: get back to everybody. Just don't forget about men getting
Speaker 2: in those rooms together.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and that's just making that music.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I'll be telling all the artists out there, like they'd
Speaker 3: be like Warring, send me, send me a pack, send
Speaker 3: me this, like nigga, you gotta you gotta come to
Speaker 3: the come to the lab. Let's sit in here and
Speaker 3: vibe about nigga. I'm a barbecue the whole nun. We're
Speaker 3: gonna be in that motherfuckers having a good time and
Speaker 3: vibing and creat some dope ship because it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Of the Orange. Your top five R and B singers,
Speaker 1: h M, I don't say notes to the note.
Speaker 3: I got h Prince, Yeah, I got Michael Jackson, Anita Baker,
Speaker 3: Luther Vanros and Ronald Isley. Yeah yeah, by way a tank.
Speaker 1: By way.
Speaker 2: The Ronald close out is yeah. Yes, people don't remember.
Speaker 2: People don't remember the eras of ron Eisley sixty years.
Speaker 2: People get of People get so caught up in a
Speaker 2: lot of.
Speaker 5: That's not all up temples oh super temposht.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think I had to go to Rediscovered
Speaker 1: for myself. I was like, that's run honestly. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Top five R and B songs Uh.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, I mean it's it's hard. Uh, it's kind
Speaker 3: of hard because I love a lot of songs, Like
Speaker 3: I really love a lot of songs, but I these
Speaker 3: were some of my These are some of my top songs.
Speaker 3: Top this is gonna be my top five. Here is
Speaker 3: a golden time of day Frankie Beverly caught up in
Speaker 3: the Rapture of Love by Anita Baker, closed the door,
Speaker 3: Teddy Pendergrash, Uh playing your game, Baby very White, and
Speaker 3: uh Lady by the Whispers. Yeah, Yeah, I was gonna
Speaker 3: I had lady. I was gonna put lady uh from
Speaker 3: uh uh Michael Jackson's uh Lady, Lady Lady in my life.
Speaker 3: I was getting ready to swap, but I said, no,
Speaker 3: I gotta. I gotta keep the whispers in there. I
Speaker 3: can hear you rapping over golden time of day I
Speaker 3: have before, I just haven't put it out.
Speaker 1: I got it.
Speaker 4: I was hearing that boom boom. I hear you that
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: I gotta get us the music. Yeah, music and barbecue
Speaker 3: we need. That's That's why I got into barbecue. Because
Speaker 3: it's mute, because it all it's married, the barbecue.
Speaker 2: The family reunion, the picnic at the park, like all
Speaker 2: that is. There's a soundtrack to that. Yes, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Let's make a vultron. Let's make your
Speaker 2: super r and B artists where you get different characteristics
Speaker 2: for that artist. We're gonna add some wrinkles for you.
Speaker 2: First of all, where you gonna get the vocal from
Speaker 2: for that artist, the performance style, the styling of the artists,
Speaker 2: the passion of the artists, and who's gonna produce for
Speaker 2: that motherfucker. Let's start with the vocal. What one vocal
Speaker 2: you're gonna get for your super R and B artists?
Speaker 3: Oh way that I'd have to I would have to
Speaker 3: roll with on that one. I'd have to say Michael
Speaker 3: Jackson hm hm hmm first of all times, yeah, why not?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: As far as the performance style, performance style style, Yeah,
Speaker 3: on stage, i'd have to usher m m yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: why not usher mm hmmm. Styling, the drip of the artist,
Speaker 3: the drip. Uh let me see, uh uh let me
Speaker 3: see uh drip. Uh Oh my goodness. I I'm gonna
Speaker 3: have to row oh ship if I.
Speaker 4: Uh they might now the drip, I would have to.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, uh ship, let me see who was
Speaker 3: Who's uh damn mm hmmm Michael Michael style the drip?
Speaker 3: Uh god, damn it?
Speaker 4: Uh mm hmmm, Oh my god, let me see.
Speaker 3: Uh uh.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's gonna come to me.
Speaker 3: Guys, give me gimme uh oh man, uh.
Speaker 4: Uh well, passion, I'm gonna say the passion.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, uh Prince, Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah
Speaker 3: passion Prince and the Drep.
Speaker 4: I would have to say, uh ship uh ship tank.
Speaker 3: You're trying to tell your pretty Oh yeah, nigga ain't
Speaker 3: nothing but Mary gave with jewel.
Speaker 1: Nigga, shut up, you shut up?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, you know you know how to dress.
Speaker 1: Insane? This the ladies telling you I was I was chilling.
Speaker 2: I had a certain easy, you know, decent, regular style
Speaker 2: until he walks into my closet and says, were burning
Speaker 2: all this ship right, burn anything, burn it. So after
Speaker 2: I burned it, it sent me on a mission to
Speaker 2: get to get runways you get fly.
Speaker 1: I want to be early on him. I'll take chances
Speaker 1: on him. Man, Yeah, I want.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be You're gonna be decided on my fit.
Speaker 2: You either would never wear it or you you would,
Speaker 2: you would, you would wear it right now. You ain't
Speaker 2: gonna be in the middle. No gonna make you make
Speaker 2: a decision. That's what fashion is. It's self expression.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 1: You should have never said that we're gonna produce. Man
Speaker 1: who's producing for this artist?
Speaker 3: Uh? Let me see any producer? Uh yeah, Uh, I
Speaker 3: will say myself, but I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he should I produce it album?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it ain't many very small company. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: listen and really produce it. Yeah, really do the word,
Speaker 2: really push those buttons, really look that up into the Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Go from r c A yeah to quarter rich and yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, I mean I get down a little bit throughout
Speaker 3: the years of uh, just being around a lot of
Speaker 3: music and people that sing, kind of like I didn't
Speaker 3: have to go to school for music there, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. It just it just automatically just starts
Speaker 3: sinking in. In the beginning, I knew what I wanted,
Speaker 3: but I couldn't do a lot of it. But it's
Speaker 3: slowly built on me to where I started messing with
Speaker 3: the keyboards and just start damn, okay, this is this
Speaker 3: boom boom, Okay, it's starting to come together to me
Speaker 3: to where now I know, you know songs, I say,
Speaker 3: I want to do this song and see minor and
Speaker 3: I know what the scale to see minor scale, so
Speaker 3: I know where to go with it, and and and
Speaker 3: add like a bunch of stuff add in like the
Speaker 3: horns or the strings or or even the choir. I
Speaker 3: just did it. I just did a record for me
Speaker 3: and Wiz called mad at All to where I I
Speaker 3: brought in the choir towards the end of the song.
Speaker 3: I didn't bring them in during the song. At the
Speaker 3: end of the song, they come in like like damn there,
Speaker 3: like we're in church, and just just I mean, I
Speaker 3: just learned the whole lot, just through my journey.
Speaker 1: You know, you would learn that that that reducing is orchestrated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: The vision of the record. I'm gonna pull Quincy Jones's
Speaker 2: thing sometimes if I have to, and I was. I
Speaker 2: was a huge fan of Quincy. What blew me away
Speaker 2: is Curtis Mayfield reached out to me. This was before
Speaker 2: he had passed, well before he had that No, this
Speaker 2: is why he had after he had that accident.
Speaker 4: He reached out.
Speaker 3: He wrote me a letter. I gotta find that letter.
Speaker 3: I have it somewhere in my all my ship. I
Speaker 3: just don't know where to look. I got so much ship.
Speaker 3: But he wrote me a letter just how he loved
Speaker 3: what I was doing, you know, and that that like
Speaker 3: really you know, made me say, damn, I'm really ordered
Speaker 3: this ship and.
Speaker 1: You are absolutely a part of this question.
Speaker 3: And I was just because I'm like I said, I
Speaker 3: got all of the black exploitation soundtracks and he was
Speaker 3: a part of a lot of them. Yeah yeah, I
Speaker 3: even I even I would go by Leilo shifting uh sound,
Speaker 3: you know, all the movies he was involved in. I
Speaker 3: would dig, even Quincy Jones. I would just dig and
Speaker 3: just study them. And even like the younger producers today
Speaker 3: like Metro Boom, and I study him, but I'll be
Speaker 3: listening like, damn, this nigga sounds he got. He got
Speaker 3: really musical. You know, he ain't just like a beat maker.
Speaker 3: He's really musical. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: That's the West Coast producers that has always it has
Speaker 2: always fascinated me, like the music reality, like like it's
Speaker 2: it's always a guitar, always horn, yes, but then it's
Speaker 2: got this thing under it. It's like how dog and
Speaker 2: that ship jumping?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So we had a very very important part
Speaker 1: of the show.
Speaker 5: Yeah you tell us a story funnyer, fucked up, funny
Speaker 5: and fucked up.
Speaker 4: Well, it's it's funny and fuck.
Speaker 1: The only rule to the game you can't say no name.
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna say it. I won't say it now.
Speaker 3: It was a guy, you know, it was the person
Speaker 3: I was on tour with, and this person had I mean,
Speaker 3: if this dude was like, you know, we became cool
Speaker 3: later on after all, you know, after we had the
Speaker 3: boss up on him to let him know, like, hold up, motherfucker,
Speaker 3: you got you got it, you got it. Fucked up.
Speaker 4: I don't know who you think we are.
Speaker 3: Was was telling us that when we was all on
Speaker 3: the same tour together, but when he come through the hall,
Speaker 3: everybody got to turn towards the wall, like niggas you crazy,
Speaker 3: and we nigga turned against the like y'all gotta turn
Speaker 3: face into.
Speaker 1: So we made it out.
Speaker 3: We made it our point to stand right in the middle,
Speaker 3: like we gonna stand right here, nigga, what you're gonna do?
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: So it became, you know, it got to where it
Speaker 3: almost came the blows. But all the security on the tour,
Speaker 3: uh put us together, put us said, Okay, we gotta
Speaker 3: settle this. So what we did is we had a
Speaker 3: basketball game to settle the differences. The nigga was good.
Speaker 3: He was good, yeah, but look he was good on
Speaker 3: that and that that with that y. What I used
Speaker 3: to do was like, Okay, I ain't gonna I ain't
Speaker 3: gonna bother this motherfucker no more. We ain't gonna get
Speaker 3: into it, get into it no more. So I would
Speaker 3: do my show and then when he come on stage,
Speaker 3: what I would do, I was cracking. I was like
Speaker 3: the young like Drake or you know the ladies love like.
Speaker 3: I was like the young all the ladies. I was
Speaker 3: tank the lady. So I he this nigga perform on stage.
Speaker 3: So I come out on the on the side. And
Speaker 3: when I come out on the side, all the girls
Speaker 3: everybody like they scream, and he would bring his ass.
Speaker 3: He bring his motherfucking ass right over there, right by.
Speaker 1: The speaker, dump.
Speaker 3: Like trying to blow everybody. Yeah, and they still all
Speaker 3: the lady calling my name. I'm like, yeah, nigga, yeah,
Speaker 3: hey yeah yeah. They they won't me. So I had
Speaker 3: to get him back. So I would do that ship
Speaker 3: a lot to funk with him.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: And he was just like this mother fucker, and I
Speaker 4: mean it was it was crazy.
Speaker 3: And then he it's some other stuff. I ain't gonna
Speaker 3: get into that, but this dude was a trip like uh,
Speaker 3: with his with his uh his background singers. All of
Speaker 3: that he told he was telling all themfuckers, y'all bet
Speaker 3: not go around them niggas, none of that ship. I
Speaker 3: was like, damn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah it was crazy. Uh but that that
Speaker 4: was a crazy story.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, that uh to different Other than panties and
Speaker 3: balls and ship flying on the stage, that was normal.
Speaker 1: It was, it was, it was only right, only what.
Speaker 3: I got.
Speaker 1: I got to do my little last bit of tour
Speaker 1: in the nineties.
Speaker 3: You know I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I wasn't the lead artist. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Genuine was the But I was like, is this they say,
Speaker 2: you'd have been the main artist. Yeah, yeah in the
Speaker 2: nineties me in the nineties. Way, Lord, the Lord, save you,
Speaker 2: preserve time. He said, we gotta get him out the nineties.
Speaker 1: You don't come out. You don't come out to you
Speaker 1: don't come out.
Speaker 2: To the two thousand, because if you if you have
Speaker 2: behaving like this as Genuine's valet, ain't no way, ain't
Speaker 2: no way that you sing lead.
Speaker 1: In the nineties.
Speaker 2: He would let me man or wouldn't let me do it,
Speaker 2: because it was it was, It wasn't right as we
Speaker 2: look at it now. And look back on about I'm
Speaker 2: telling you, wow, free for all man. Man the buffet, Yeah,
Speaker 2: all you can eat. What's the what's the rib?
Speaker 3: Call the flanking a flanking, flanking everywhere, everywhere, everywhere, Brother
Speaker 3: Warren g listen, man, I'm I'm I'm I'm very happy.
Speaker 3: First of all, we're very appreciative. But we're coming up
Speaker 3: here man, rocking with us.
Speaker 1: Man. We love what you do. I mean my brother,
Speaker 1: my brother knows lyrics, lyrics, lyrics, all the words like all.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like your your your your culture, man,
Speaker 2: your your your soundtrack to our lives, bro, and that
Speaker 2: and to us, that is important, even even the little things,
Speaker 2: even the things that we don't know that that maybe
Speaker 2: you would have been like, you know, that's cool and
Speaker 2: I'm not tripping on that. Those those are still gems man,
Speaker 2: Those are still uh important pieces and contributions that again
Speaker 2: are the soundtracks to all of this ship and the
Speaker 2: reason why we're able to do what then we do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, those doors Listen. I'm one of those samplers.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It was going from R
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and going from x L
Speaker 2: R going from I'm one of those kids, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So all that I'm listening to y'all,
Speaker 2: how do they where did they grab? I go and
Speaker 2: I buy a record store that is going out of
Speaker 2: business off by four boxes from them. Yeah yeah, so
Speaker 2: that I can do that? Yeah, yeah, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So you know, you you're you're, you're you're
Speaker 2: important to us. Brother, your story, your music, your barbecue.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: And as a and as and as a father of
Speaker 3: an athlete who made the NFL, yes and day, yes,
Speaker 3: there's that.
Speaker 1: Shout you out for that. Man.
Speaker 5: You know, we all got we all fathers, we all
Speaker 5: got kids play sports. Man to have that moment too,
Speaker 5: because everybody knows and music. We all love sports vice versa,
Speaker 5: they all love music. So to be able to have
Speaker 5: a son who played in the NFL and a man.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, you can gratulation that. Thank you man, shout
Speaker 1: out to your son. Thank you. My name is Valentine
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Speaker 3: On all things R and B.
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Speaker 2: I don't know who you, I don't know what you
Speaker 2: want to put it on, but we got the man,
Speaker 2: the myth, the legend man. And and still yes warned, yes,