1 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My name is Sean Coleman. Hope, 2 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: wherever you are and wherever you were listening, you were 3 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: having a great start to your Tuesday evening. You know, 4 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna try and excuse me Thursday evening. 5 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: I don't even know what day it is. Welcome to 6 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: the Hammer Territory Podcast. My name is Sean Coleman, as 7 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: always here with Steven Tolbert and Steven I'm just going 8 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: to be honest with you. I know that we're doing 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: a podcast, but I'm at a loss for words. The 10 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: Braves lost tonight three to two loss and extra innings 11 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: against the New York Mets was just one of the 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: most disappointing and just embarrassing losses that I have seen 13 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: this Braves team have in years. And I never thought 14 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: that we get to this point this season, and especially 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: with how good we were last year for much of 16 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: the season. Steven, We're to the point now to where 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: this Braves team is creating new ways to lose and 18 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: it's just it's not fun to watch. But with all 19 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: that being said, good evening to you, sir. 20 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: What's up Sean? Yeah, I don't I don't really, I 21 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: don't really know what to say. I was watching that game. 22 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: I was actually doing the recap for a battery power, 23 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: So you know, when you do the recap, obviously you 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: have to pay attention to every detail. And you know, 25 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: it just looked like it was gonna be another one 26 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: of these games where the Braves just could scored the 27 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: runs and you know, the Mets were gonna squeak one 28 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: across late and win a kind of a boring game 29 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: three to two, and honestly, that would have been better, 30 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: Like I kind of wish they had just hit a 31 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: walk off home running the ninth and sent us home 32 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: with that feeling, because honestly, the game was miserable to watch, 33 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: and then when he got to it somehow got worse. Yeah, 34 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about it. We're gonna talk about sale 35 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: and all the stuff he did. But yeah, that that 36 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: was one for I mean, somebody's somebody tweeted at me 37 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: like surely this is like rock bottom, right, like like 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: surely this tonight is rock bottom. And my response to him, 39 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: and I mean this was is you know, maybe, I mean, 40 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: we'll see what tomorrow brings, but like, you know, the 41 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: way this team is playing tomorrow, might be right, I mean, yeah, 42 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I don't know what to say. Sean, 43 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about it. We're gonna talk about Sale 44 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: and how good he was tonight, but and talk about 45 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: the rest. But yeah, I don't, I'm kind of at 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: a loss for words. 47 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: Well, I'll I'll just brought into The big thing that 48 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: stuck out to me tonight is that it wasn't just 49 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, the the comedy of errors at the end 50 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: of the game, Steven. It's what led to those errors, 51 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: and to me, it's been the biggest thing. You could 52 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: probably put it on the same level, you know, the 53 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: struggles of Matt Olsen and Austin Riley for different stretches 54 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: of the season. But a huge reason why this offense 55 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: cannot find any consistency is they just do not make 56 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: enough contact when runners are in scoring position. One of 57 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: the absolute worst teams. They have one of the highest 58 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: strikeout rates in the majors when runners are in scoring position, 59 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: and I think tonight, you know they've struck out five times. 60 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: I haven't found how to see the statistic yet, but 61 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if the Braves lead the 62 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: League in back to in you know, number of times 63 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: they've struck out multiple times in a row with runners 64 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: in scoring position. They did it twice tonight. So you 65 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: wind up not being able to get the job done 66 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: in that situation. And then the Braves try something new 67 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: they have with Merrifield and then fold. Now he steals 68 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: a base. They you know, add that element to things, 69 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: something they're missing badly without Ronald o'cunya Junior. But then 70 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: you get over aggressive. You have players trying to bunt 71 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: when they're not supposed to bunt. The team not being 72 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: able to execute now seems to be impacting this team's 73 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: confidence in staying true to form. That they're trying new 74 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: things and that's what leads to this play that makes 75 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: them seem incompetent like that. That's what stands out to me. 76 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: It's it's just it's a cause and effect because of 77 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: what Because of you not being able to do what 78 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: you normally should be able to do that should lead 79 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: to its success. You're now to the point of trying 80 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: new things that you don't know how to do, and 81 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: it leads to a worse than expected loss. That's what 82 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,559 Speaker 1: stands out to me from this game. 83 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: Well, if we're honest, like the Braves weren't like this 84 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: version of the Braves team have never been great with 85 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: like runners in scoring position, moving runners over, getting runners in, 86 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: Like even last year they just hit so many home 87 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: runs last year that it just didn't matter. Like when 88 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: you're scoring seven eight runs a game, Like if you 89 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: have a couple opportunities during the night where you had 90 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: a runner at third with one out and you didn't 91 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: get them in, nobody remembers it because you scored seven 92 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: or eight runs. But when you're scoring two runs a night, 93 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 2: which is what the Braids have been doing lately, every 94 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: single time you have that situation, and the Braves have 95 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: had it a bunch where they have a runner on third, 96 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: first and third whatever, second, you know, runner out of second, 97 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: nobody out, and you don't score that run. It's just 98 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: magnified because you just can't you can't afford it. And 99 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: that's there between last year and this year. This you know, 100 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: last year they really weren't very good at it, but 101 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: they just covered it up with so many homers and 102 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 2: so many other runs that it didn't matter. And this 103 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 2: year they're not. I mean, they're they're one that they're 104 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: in the bottom third of the league and home runs. 105 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: They've been one of the worst five worst offensive teams 106 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: in baseball since about the middle of April. Yeah, I 107 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 2: mean a lot of it is a talent deficiency at 108 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: this point, if we're being honest. You know, tonight, the 109 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: bottom of the lineup had a bunch of chances with runners, 110 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: you know, sprinkled around a couple of guys the top 111 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: had hits tonight, and they just couldn't get a hit, 112 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: and they couldn't get a big hit, and they couldn't 113 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 2: get a rally going. 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Chris Sale was once again looking 159 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: like a pure sy young candidate, just absolutely spectacular and 160 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: he was outstanding. But that's what makes tonight even more 161 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: frustrating when it comes to the offense, is that you 162 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: waste such a great performance in a big game from 163 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: Chris Sale. But you know, hey, we could talk about 164 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: the offense all night. I do agree the one positive 165 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: tonight was Chris Sale. And it's good to see that 166 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: with you know the fact that he's getting more rest 167 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: and he's you know, getting some days in between he 168 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: came off this long rest looking fresher than ever, and 169 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: he delivered. He did his job. It's just unfortunate the 170 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: Bradys can't take advantage of it. 171 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was curious to see what he looked like tonight, honestly, 172 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: because he hasn't pitched like ten days. Uh, he pitched 173 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: the last game before they all start breaking, and obviously 174 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: had the four days of the All Star Break, and 175 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: then he didn't pitch it all in the homestand he 176 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 2: didn't pitch against the Cardinals with the Reds just because 177 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: they pushed him back for extra rest, and then there 178 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: was all the rain, and so this is his first 179 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 2: start since the All Star break, and you know, he 180 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: just looked as good as ever. I mean, nine strikeouts, 181 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: you know, worked into the eighth inning. He could have 182 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: probably finished the eighth you know, his last batter was 183 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: a ground out, and he probably could have gotten the 184 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: last two guys if he wanted to snit. I think 185 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: just went with some matchups, which is fine, but yeah, 186 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: nine strikeouts, Slider looked good. You know, lind Door got 187 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: him for a two run homer, and Lindor might be 188 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: the hottest hitter on the planet, right now and that 189 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 2: was you know, that was it. That's all the Mets got. 190 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: Mets had two hits, you know before before we got 191 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: to extras. And then you know that last play where 192 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: Loreano over ended the ball is you know, it's hilariously 193 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: called a hit. So I guess technically they had three hits. 194 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: But but yeah, Sale was unbelievable. And like you said, 195 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: it really really stings to lose these games with Sale 196 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: because especially without Max, like you just can't afford it. 197 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: You can't afford to lose these games. You can't afford 198 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: to lose it. When Sale goes, you know, into the 199 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: eighth inning, only gives up two runs, like the other 200 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: team only has two hits, Like, you gotta win that game. 201 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: And you know, now now it's another four or five days, 202 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: depending on how much rest they given before Sale pitches again, 203 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: and you gotta squeak out some wins with you know, 204 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 2: without your very best starters with Max out. So great 205 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: game from Sales, good to see after the long layoff. 206 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: And and like you said, it's just a it's a kick, 207 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: it's a kick to the nuts that they didn't win 208 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: this game. Because you gotta win. You gotta win this 209 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 2: game against the A team right behind you in the standings, 210 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: your ace goes out and down. You know, pitch is 211 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 2: a really really really good game against a hot offense 212 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 2: on the road, like, you gotta win that game, and 213 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: they didn't, and so now they're now they're in some. 214 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: Trouble absolutely end. The thing that stands out to me, 215 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: Steven is that again, you're just seeing things happen right 216 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: now with the Braves. I know that it's a ton 217 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: of reasons, injuries to major players, other major contributors that 218 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: just are not playing anywhere that you would expect them to, 219 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: and now the players that you're having to play just 220 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: being less talented. But the Braves before tonight went nine 221 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: straight games in which the other team scored the run. 222 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: In two straight games, we've seen a big hit Spencer 223 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: Steers two run hit on Sunday when the Reds played 224 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: the Braves, the one in right field that Adam Devall 225 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: couldn't get, and then Tonight's game winner. Both of those 226 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: balls in play were under one hundred XBA. That means 227 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: that basically the way that those balls were hit, they 228 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: had less than a ten percent chance of actually being 229 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: a hit when they were in play, and yet they 230 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: were round up, leading to three runs and huge results 231 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: for the other team. You're seeing things happen to this 232 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: Braves team that you've not seen in years. Typically see 233 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: the Braves stay pretty consistent, doesn't really seem to affect him, 234 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: but we're now starting to see it affect him a 235 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: little bit. You know, a team meeting players only meeting. 236 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: We never really heard of that or for years when 237 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: it comes to the Brase. And then tonight one thing 238 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: that I may have happened once or twice but very 239 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: rarely happens. There was some disconnect between Brian Snicker and 240 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: his players in the post game comments. I'll let you 241 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: give the details, but the big point that I'm getting 242 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: at is is that these things happening that are just 243 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: so uncharacteristic for this Braves team. It does seem like 244 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: it's impacting them, and it's leading, you know, to some 245 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: you know kind of you know, eyebrow raising moments right 246 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: now for the team, even off the field. 247 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you didn't see it, first of all, 248 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: country blessings, if you weren't actually watching this live, because 249 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 2: this this was this was this was tough to watch. 250 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: So it's extra endings obviously the you know, it's man 251 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: foot ball, so you get a runner at second to 252 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: start the to start the tenth inning. Loriano was on 253 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: second because he ended the ninth and Orlando Arcia starts 254 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: the top of the tenth. He bunts Lorean over the third, 255 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: which you know, I have my problems with playing for 256 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: one run when you're the road team and you're talking 257 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: about Manford ball, because one run is almost kind of 258 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: like the given, Like I don't really like playing for 259 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: one Like I get it. Or Lando Arcia is up, He's, 260 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: you know, arguably the worst hit are in baseball this year, 261 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: So you can justify it a little bit, and you 262 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: maybe be able to justify that. You know, Pierce Johnson 263 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: can come in and shut guys down and strike guys 264 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: out and get out of the bottom of the tenth 265 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: without giving up a run, which he should have done 266 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: if Loreano catches that ball. But I don't love playing 267 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: for one run. But anyways, that's what they did. Arcia 268 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: bunts Loreano goes to third. Okay, all well and good. 269 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: The first pitch and then Jared Kelnick is up. The 270 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: first pitch of Kelni's at bat, the Mets pitch out 271 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: and as the pitch is being thrown, Jared Kelnick is 272 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: squaring to bunt and Loreano takes off, and so obviously 273 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: it looks to the everybody watching that some sort of 274 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: squeeze plays on and to the Mets, obviously the Mets 275 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: thought something wouldn't like that, like that might be on, 276 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: So they pitch out. Kellenick pulls the bat back because 277 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: he sees the balls so far outside Loreano. You can 278 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: see the panic in his eye like that, they immediately 279 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: like pain into him. He's he's got like his eyes 280 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: or as wide as they've ever been. He's panic because 281 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: now he's just in no man's land. He gets picked off. 282 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: They throw back behind him. He gets picked off third, 283 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: and of course the Braves don't score anything that any 284 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: so obviously disaster. You know, you can't have that an 285 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: extra innings. You have to at least score one. So 286 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: after the game, they asked, you know, of course that's 287 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: gonna be the number one question. The first question they 288 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: asked Snicker was what the hell just happened on that play? 289 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: What was called? Snit said that nothing was called. He 290 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: didn't have any sort of play on, He didn't have 291 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: any sort of squeeze on or bunt or suicide squeeze anything. 292 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: He said, it was nothing called. 293 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: That. 294 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: It was you know that, it's just something the players did. 295 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: And he called it unacceptable. He was he I mean, 296 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: you know, Bowman used the word livid. I watched the 297 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: postgame press conference. He was livid. I mean, that's that's 298 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: an accurate description. He was very, very mad. And then 299 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: they went to Loreano and asked him, you know what 300 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: did what did you think there was a squeeze play on? 301 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: And Larry Loreano said, yeah, there was a squeeze on 302 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: and that's why I took off. And so now everyone's 303 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: confused because the manager in the right field or just 304 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: gave two different answers. So the Beat writers go over 305 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: to kell Nick because you know, if kel Nick confirms 306 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: that there was a squeeze on and then we really 307 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: got a problem. But then kel Nick takes blame for 308 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: the whole thing. He says, there was nothing called. He 309 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: squared to bunt on his own, and it appears as 310 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: the Loreano took the fact that he was squaring the 311 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: bunt as a sign that he needed to take off, 312 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: and he was too aggressive with taking off. It was 313 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: a pitch out, there was no way to get the 314 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: bunt down, and Lorianna gets thrown out. So yeah, just 315 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: a massive miscommunication. 316 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: I guess. 317 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: You know, Kelnick has been in a really really bad 318 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: funk for a while now, he's his numbers have cratered. 319 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: He was zero for five tonight. I guess he just thought, 320 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: you know, maybe I can get a cheap hit in 321 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: the cheap RBI by scoring the bunt. Loriano, I guess, 322 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: still being relatively new to the team, didn't know what 323 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: was happening, so he took off the Mets pitched out, 324 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: and and that's all she wrote. So I mean, just 325 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: a just a disaster, like just an embarrassing like triple A, 326 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: not even triple A. This is like high school level 327 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: stuff that just shouldn't be happening. And yeah, it literally 328 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: cost probably cost the brade of the game obviously. You know, 329 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: the next inning they had a just an incredibly dumb 330 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: error that that ended up actually costing in the game. 331 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: But just just painful, I mean, just brutal, brutal baseball 332 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: to watch. And it's going to be very in to 333 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: see the fallout the next couple of days, you know, 334 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: after what has been easily the worst stretch of the 335 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 2: season for the Braves. 336 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 1: Agreed, and you know, of course, you know that if 337 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: there's one silver lining, you know this, you know, I 338 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: don't know how much this is going to really impact, 339 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, the decisions that Alexanthopolis makes at the trade deadline. 340 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: We've talked in depth about many, many different perspectives that 341 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, possibly could be considered. But one interesting tidbit 342 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: that did happen off the field, and it's not the 343 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 1: first time that we've seen the Braves connected to this player, 344 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: but Zach Eflin, who pitches for the Tampa Bay Rays, 345 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: a pitcher who is you know, on the over the 346 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: past few years, been the latest example of how good 347 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: the Rays can be, you know, taking a picture who 348 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: you really wasn't all that successful before he arrived in 349 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: Tampa and then now he's become a pretty successful pitcher, 350 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: a pitcher who has very good control, has very low 351 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: walk totals. The Braves or for the second you know 352 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: time that I've seen this season, appear to be one 353 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: of a few teams are interested in e Flin when 354 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: it comes to, you know, one to target at the 355 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: trade deadline. But Steve and I'll get your thoughts on this. 356 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: To me, I like the idea of the targeting flyin, 357 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: but I don't necessarily like doing it right now because 358 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: pitching is you know, I know that a starting pitcher 359 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: would be nice to get, but he seems to be 360 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: more of an off season target with the level of 361 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: pitcher that he is, so I wouldn't mind getting him. 362 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: But after tonight, and especially with the fielding and offense 363 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: both position players, especially in the outfield, is where we 364 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: need to focus. But what are your thoughts on the 365 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: potential interest the Braves having Zach Eflin, And you know, 366 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't really make sense to you to go after 367 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: that level of a starter right now. 368 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: I've always liked Efln, you know, I thought he's been 369 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: underrated in Tampa. You know, he's always been a high strikeout, 370 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: low walk guy, which are my favorite types of pictures regardless. 371 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: You know, if you just only if I can only 372 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: look at one number, you know, I would look out 373 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: strike out. The walk ratio is kind of the one 374 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 2: number that I I care about most in terms of pitching, 375 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: and e Flyn's always been, you know, strong in that category. 376 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 2: So I've always liked Devlin. If you look at him 377 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 2: this year. He's got a low fours era, but he's 378 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: got a PHIP like he's got like a three six FIP, 379 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: a three seven x FIP. His expected era is in 380 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: like in the three threes. So he's a good pitcher. 381 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 2: I mean, he's a good you know, the velocity has 382 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: definitely come down as he's gotten a little bit older. 383 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: He's still not I think he's only thirty weld On, 384 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: I've got it right here. Yeah, he's thirty. I think 385 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: contractually he's got two years left. 386 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 3: Uh. 387 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: There, they are somewhat expensive years. 388 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: Uh. 389 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 2: He signed a three year, forty million dollar contract with 390 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: Tampa in before the twenty three season, so he's got 391 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: twenty four and twenty five left under contract. I think 392 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 2: it's like thirteen million and eighteen million or something like 393 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: that for the next two years. Obviously this year's halfway over, 394 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: so it wouldn't be that much. But so yeah, he's 395 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: a he's a guy that's got multiple years of control 396 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: that would help you next year. Of course, if Max 397 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 2: doesn't come back, if Morton doesn't come back, you still 398 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 2: don't know really what you're gonna get with Strider. You 399 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: still got a bunch of young guys, so. 400 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: I could see it. 401 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 2: I mean, you can't have too much pitching. You know, 402 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: the Braves are a razor thin right now with Strider 403 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 2: and Max freed out, so I understand it. If they 404 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: did it, I'm with you. I do think offense is 405 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: probably a bigger need. But you know the way this 406 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: team scores runs. You know, Alex might be like, you 407 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 2: know what, we just gotta we gotta, we got to 408 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: give up less runs because this all offense is so broken. 409 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll see what they do. You know, 410 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: rumors in the Braves are that's usually an indication that 411 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 2: it's not going to happen. Like if you hear the 412 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: guy's name and a rumor, that usually means it's not 413 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 2: gonna happen. With the Braves, that's just how Alex moves. 414 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: He has always moved pretty silently, So we'll see if 415 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: this means anything. But I've always liked Deflin, so if 416 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 2: they went and got him, I certainly wouldn't be upset 417 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: about it. Obviously, it's relative to the cost. It's an 418 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 2: interesting rumor. We'll see if anything comes of it. We 419 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 2: also don't know if Tampas is gonna sell. They're kind 420 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: of right on the edge of could probably do either. 421 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: So that's another factor. But I like Efflyn, so if 422 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 2: they wouldn't got him, I'd come on here and tell 423 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: you it was a great move. 424 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: And to me, the other thing that stands out, and 425 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: I agree with you, it's one of those things where 426 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: if we got Efflin, I wouldn't necessarily, you know, have 427 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: negative thoughts about it. But again, I just I just 428 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: feel like, if we're going to use assets right now, 429 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: it makes sense to go get that offensive player. And 430 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: we could talk about it being an outfielder, we could 431 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 1: talk about it being wherever. But I'm starting to really 432 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: tonight just kind of, you know, really put back into 433 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: the focus for me of just if we could get 434 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: someone who consistently had productive at bats at the top 435 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: of the order. Jared Kellnick had about a month long 436 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: stretch where he was great, but he's a very streaky 437 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: hitter when he's not going good like he has over 438 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: the past three weeks. You know, we see the offense, 439 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, I know that he wasn't that good before. 440 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 1: They also break but we were still good. But this 441 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: Braves team, I think it would do them so much 442 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: good if they could just have someone who consistently had 443 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: productive at bats, taking walks, working the count, what have 444 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: you in front of Riley Ozuna and Matt Olson. And 445 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: I know that that may not necessarily be a player 446 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: who's underperforming his expected statistics and has good, you know, 447 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: power potential, But that type of player really seems to 448 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: be something that would help this team out. If you remember, 449 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: we know we talk about how this year compares to 450 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. If you remember we've talked about it. 451 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: Steven Jorge Celaire was excellent with his power out of 452 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: the leadoff spot, but the big reason why he was 453 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: such a big benefit to the offense without Ronald Accoonney 454 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: Junior was because of how good he was at getting 455 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: on base. So you'd love to have someone who can 456 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: get on base and get the power. But I just 457 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: need someone top of you the order who can consistently 458 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: give productive at bats. That trait seems to me to 459 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: take on a bit more significance as we get closer 460 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: to the deadline. After watching like tonight. 461 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest, man, I'll take anything 462 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: at this point, like I'll I sent out a tweet. 463 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: I can't remember if it was yesterday or earlier today, honestly, 464 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 2: but basically, the Braves have the three of the five 465 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: worst offensive players in baseball in their lineup. If you 466 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 2: look at WRC plus, you know, there's been like two 467 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: hundred and seventeen players that have had over two hundred 468 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: and fifty played appearances this year. And if you look 469 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: at the bottom five of those two hundred and seventeen players, 470 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: three of the five are r Cio, Rosario and Duval 471 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 2: And obviously all three of those players played for the 472 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: Braves pretty regularly. And I mean, that's just this is brutal. 473 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: And you know, right now you've got a rookie who 474 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: it's been called up to take Ozzie's place, who looks 475 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: a little overmatched. If we're being honest, you know, Kelnick 476 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 2: has just been in a nose dive for about a month. 477 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: You know, Matt Olsen the one bright spot other than 478 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 2: sales at matt Olsen did have a couple of hits 479 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: to night. I think that's two games in a row 480 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: where he's had multiple hits. So maybe maybe you know, 481 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: there is a small glimmer of life there. But I'll 482 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 2: take anything. I'll take any sort of offense. I mean literally, 483 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 2: the Bredges have three of the five worst offensive players 484 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 2: in baseball and all of baseball in their lineup on 485 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: an everyday basis. 486 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's. 487 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 2: There's that's just cre like, there's just not a lot 488 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: you can do with that. Like there's just a severe 489 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: talent deficiency in the lineup right now. And I can 490 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: get excited about a lot of players at this point 491 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: just because of how low the bar is to clear. 492 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I listen, I'll take what you're 493 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 2: talking about. I'll take a high OBP, high power guy 494 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: at the top. That'd be fantastic. I'll take it. I'll 495 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: take it right now. But I'll take I mean, honestly, 496 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 2: I just take anything. Any sort of upgrade to what 497 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: they have would be tremendous. It would. I think you 498 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: would help boost the confidence. I think you would get 499 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: the vibes going. I think the vibes are as bad 500 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 2: as they've been in the Braves Clubhouse in a long 501 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: time right now. And you know, Alex, sometimes you make 502 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 2: a move just to get the vibes back, right It's 503 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 2: not just about the on the field stuff, but like 504 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: to get the energy back, to get the confidence back. 505 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: Like I think the Braves need to move, they need something, 506 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: They need some sort of jolt of energy. And you know, 507 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if I was cann afford to wait 508 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: till Tuesday, because at that point, I mean, you know, 509 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: the Braves could have lost their ninth game in a 510 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,479 Speaker 2: row or eighth game in row. I mean, that's how 511 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 2: bad this is. Like the Braves are that they are 512 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: collapsing right in front of our eyes, and they need something, 513 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: They need some sort of jolt. Chrysale's not going to 514 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: pitch again for another four or five days, like they 515 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: need something big to happen, and it's gonna be to 516 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 2: see what it is. 517 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely and it's so unfortunate. But how well they ended 518 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: the first the the the end of the first half 519 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: with you know, going through the series that they did 520 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: against potential playoff team is going six and four. All 521 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: that good vibes is washed away. The offense, you know 522 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: again is back to you know, struggling all this different stuff. 523 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: And you also have to think to yourself, Steven and 524 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: all end on this note. The other thing that I'll 525 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: say is that you also just have to think, I 526 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: don't know why it's taken this long, but now that 527 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: we're seeing there clearly be disconnect between Snicker and the players, 528 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: you know it giving out the media about the players 529 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: only meeting. Now. I'm fine with the players on the meeting, 530 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: But my point is is that you're just seeing uncharacteristic 531 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: aspects of this team on and off the field now, 532 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: and you're seeing it happen pretty frequently over the past, 533 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: you know, a week or so. You just have to 534 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: wonder if this team is just kind of like, Okay, 535 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: enough is enough. I know that a lot of stuff 536 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: isn't working, but that does not need to shake our 537 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: confidence to where we're just missing out on every opportunity. 538 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: You just have to hope at some point that it 539 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: snaps in place to where enough is enough. We need 540 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: to continue to go through the motion even if the 541 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: results are not there, and eventually something's gonna break our way. 542 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: Now that's much easier said than done for this team. 543 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: But that's kind of where it's kind of where I'm 544 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: at right now. 545 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, in some ways, you know, Scott 546 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: said this the other night. It's good that it's happening 547 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: before the deadline because you can go make some moves. 548 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 2: But like we've known for a while, now that the 549 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 2: Braves need more talent, Like I mean, ever since Akunya 550 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: and Strider went down, you know, Harris no Ozzi, no Max, Like, 551 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: it's very very clear this team needs more talent, like 552 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: I you know, obviously it's not easy to make trades 553 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: and you can't force teams to to sell if they're 554 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: not ready to sell. But like we're in trade like that. 555 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: You know, Uh, Miami just traded away a reliever to 556 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 2: Arizona tonight in the middle of the game, Like it's 557 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 2: officially like trade season, like Alex, if you're gonna do something, 558 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: you know, the technically the team is still the top 559 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: wild card for at least one more day. If you're 560 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: gonna do something, you know, there is a sense of 561 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: urgency to this thing now, like it we it is. 562 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: It is very real, weird. We are in the middle 563 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: of the fire, and if he's going to make a move, 564 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 2: it would be really nice if it happened very soon, 565 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,479 Speaker 2: because this team needs they need something. 566 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: We call them emergency podcast for a reason. Well right now, 567 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: with this Braves team, it may not happen often, but 568 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: those emergency sirens are are going off like crazy right now, 569 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: So I would I agree with you. I would love 570 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: for the US to give a bonus podcast over the 571 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: next twenty four to forty eight hours with an emergency 572 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: podcast about a move that we could see really helping 573 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 1: to jump start this offense. But Steven, I know that 574 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: you know we've had the same conversation time and time again. 575 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: It's always fun having it with you. I'm just hoping 576 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: here soon that that something breaks to where more positive 577 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: discussions can occur. But for this edition of the Hammer 578 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: Territory Podcast, do you have anything else as we wrap up? 579 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: No, I I really didn't want to do this podcast, 580 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: if I'm being one hundred percent honest. And then this 581 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: was as battle loss as I've sat through in a 582 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: long time. I mean I would really at the my 583 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: brain to come up with a worse loss with what's 584 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: on the line and how bad they've been playing before 585 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: this loss and the team meeting and all that stuff, 586 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: like all that at it together. This was brutal, and 587 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: I just need them to I need tonight to be 588 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 2: rock bottom and I need tomorrow to like turn the page, 589 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: you know, start climbing out of this thing, because that 590 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: was brutal. 591 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna be here with you every step of 592 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: the way. I agree with Stevens sometimes you know, hey, 593 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, we always love, you know, being able to 594 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: talk about the braves, but there definitely are times where 595 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: it's much tougher than others, so that tonight would be 596 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: one of those nights. But for Steven told where you 597 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: can find him at b Underscore Outliers, just a wealth 598 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: of great perspective when it comes to the Braves. My 599 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: name Sean Coleman. You can find me at Stat's sac 600 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: on Twitter, Hammer Territory across all forms of social media 601 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: at Hammer Territory, part of the Foul Territory Podcasts, our 602 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: family of podcasts, and also, of course you can find 603 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: it wherever your podcasts are available. Just download and and 604 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: that's where we'll be for free. For Steven Toller, my 605 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 1: name's Sean Coleman. I'm gonna say it this way I 606 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: usually say, go Braves. I'm gonna end it with this. 607 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: I hope that better days are ahead, and better days 608 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: are ahead soon for the Atlanta Braves. We'll talk to 609 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: you again soon here on the Hammer Territory podcast