WEBVTT - Chris and Tammy "I've never said this publicly!"

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get in here today, and eyes up here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an eyes up here YouTube of extra. It's eyes

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<v Speaker 1>up here on the Creedive controlment, working audio form, it's

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<v Speaker 1>eyes up here everywhere, but eyes up here directly between

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<v Speaker 1>me and the Chad sir, of course, and you, the

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<v Speaker 1>Queen of Extreme Franzine, as we stettle in to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>topic that we've been building up for the last two

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<v Speaker 1>or three weeks, Dark Side of the Ring, Season four,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about somebody you know very very well, somebody near

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<v Speaker 1>and dear to your heart. I'm dying to get your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on the episode one and only, Chris Candida. But

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<v Speaker 1>before we get involved, how are you.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing this morning? I mean, I've been better. I have

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<v Speaker 2>been crying this morning. I was hoping to go into

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<v Speaker 2>this episode like like, oh, it's this celebration of his.

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<v Speaker 3>Life and and all this stuff, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>A positive thing, which I thought they showed him in

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<v Speaker 2>a very good light. But it was hard to like

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<v Speaker 2>relive a lot of those moments because for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of them, I was there and I saw a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things happened to him and to her, So it

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<v Speaker 2>was difficult for me to sit through that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>without feeling some kind of emotion, and it's it's it

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<v Speaker 2>just makes me so upset because like he again and

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<v Speaker 2>and it'll lead to this in the discussion, but he

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<v Speaker 2>was so young and so full of life. And what

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<v Speaker 2>was so heartbreaking was not only like his brother's take

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<v Speaker 2>on it, but his mother. A parent should never have to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, bury their child, and it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>just so hard to watch for me. It's just really

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<v Speaker 2>really difficult to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>As somebody who you can say was universally loved. And

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<v Speaker 1>we saw the emotion from everyone that they spoke with

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<v Speaker 1>about Chris and what he left legacy wise in the

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<v Speaker 1>business and just the impact he had on people and

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<v Speaker 1>just from being around you and Shane over the last

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<v Speaker 1>six years, I've felt it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I saw him at shows.

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<v Speaker 1>That from Afar, I saw my conventions from Afar, But

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<v Speaker 1>just to see the impact he made on you guys

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<v Speaker 1>has been fascinating and piecing it all together, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but feel your emotion come through that screen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>We you know, we had a lot of good times,

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<v Speaker 2>but I looked back and I was reliving, like some

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that I saw him do that in

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<v Speaker 2>that moment I thought he had control and so I didn't,

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<v Speaker 2>like I think it was that big of a deal,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was. And there's a lot of things I've

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<v Speaker 2>never discussed before because I, you know, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be that one person who breaks k fabe and

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<v Speaker 2>talks about people's drug addictions or alcohol problems.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's out there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's out there and it's known, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen Chris do a lot of things, you know, like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been a drug person. I've said this before,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I've taken like a pill here and there. I

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<v Speaker 2>was on Delauded when I broke my hip, so I

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<v Speaker 2>know the feeling that you get from these pills, but

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<v Speaker 2>thank the Lord above, I've never got to the point

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<v Speaker 2>where I was addicted. You know. The delaud it was

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<v Speaker 2>the first, I think and only time I was ever

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<v Speaker 2>prescribed any type of medication like that. And uh, at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, I needed it because the pain was excruciating.

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<v Speaker 3>With these guys go through and girls, with what they

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<v Speaker 3>go through every.

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<v Speaker 2>Night, you can't imagine the feeling that your body goes

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<v Speaker 2>through because.

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<v Speaker 3>It is not I don't care what anybody's it is

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<v Speaker 3>not normal. Even though you're training. It is not normal

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<v Speaker 3>to put.

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<v Speaker 2>Your body through that pain and through that uh you know,

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<v Speaker 2>process of bumping each and every single night.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, it's not normal. It creates trauma to the body.

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<v Speaker 3>It's damage. So I understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of these guys got like addicted to the pills,

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<v Speaker 2>the drugs. However, the you know, there was not only

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<v Speaker 2>the Soma's, but like there was cocaine use.

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<v Speaker 3>I like, I remember one time we were going.

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<v Speaker 2>To the one of the shows and I got out

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<v Speaker 2>of the car and I knocked on Chris's door and

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<v Speaker 2>he was he had something in his hand and he

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<v Speaker 2>was rubbing in against his gum vigorously rubbing it. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you doing. I didn't know what that was,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was it was a rock of cocaine and

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<v Speaker 2>apparently you get high when you rub it against your

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<v Speaker 2>gum line. Like I didn't know any of that stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And at the time, I was just like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I was young, I was naive.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know what it did to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't try it, you know, it wasn't my deal,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just went about my way. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>he performs every single night, solid is there anything to

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<v Speaker 2>worry about with him. I don't think so that was

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<v Speaker 2>my mind set. You know, one night he took horse tranquilizer.

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<v Speaker 2>He was on the roof of the building and we

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<v Speaker 2>thought he was going to jump off the roof.

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<v Speaker 3>I so many things that I look back and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just like Jesus, like all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he dies, like Cornette said, he breaks his

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<v Speaker 2>ankle and it's a blood clot.

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<v Speaker 3>And why the hell did he get on that plane.

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<v Speaker 2>Why if he didn't do it, he would have been alive,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully because he was straightened in his life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was just so terrible, terrible to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, there's another story I've never I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I've told this publicly. This affected me, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it made him and I a lot closer. I was

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<v Speaker 2>at my hotel one night. I feel like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>doing this to bury him. I'm just I'm just telling

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<v Speaker 2>you my like my experiences with him and her. I

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<v Speaker 2>get a phone call from Paul Hayman and he tells

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<v Speaker 2>me you need to go over to Chris Candido's room.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, what's going on? And he said, I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's a dating I was like, what what?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm thinking where where where Shane? Where's Bambam? Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Why am I getting this phone call? Please go help him?

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<v Speaker 3>I get so I'm like, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had to get on a shuttle because I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't at the same hotel for some reason, but they

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<v Speaker 2>were close by and the I asked the shuttle, can

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<v Speaker 2>you take me? And he took me and I went

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<v Speaker 2>and I walked into the room and I found Chris

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<v Speaker 2>on the bed in the fetal position, just rocking back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth, back and forth, covered.

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<v Speaker 3>In sweat, and I said, what did you take? What

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<v Speaker 3>you know?

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<v Speaker 2>And my heart is pounding. And with that the phone rings.

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<v Speaker 2>His phone rings. I pick it up and it's Tammy

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<v Speaker 2>and she says, you are the only girl that I

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<v Speaker 2>trust to do this. Please help him, Please help him,

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<v Speaker 2>because she wasn't with us at the time, she wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said okay, and she said, Paul's going to

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<v Speaker 3>call back. So all called back. I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 3>to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I was panicking. I was in a panic. I was crying.

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<v Speaker 2>And Paul said, check every drawer, check the room, check

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<v Speaker 2>under the bed, check under the mattress, checking everything. I

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<v Speaker 2>opened one of the drawers and I found a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of needles, and I found these little vials. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know what they were, and I said, Paul, I found, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many, there were a bunch of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, there's these little tiny vials and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of it. And I said, how do I

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of it? And he says, flush it down

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<v Speaker 2>the toilet.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So the vials like they had that rubber that you

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<v Speaker 2>can only put the needle in, like that little cap.

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<v Speaker 3>You couldn't un twist it or anything. They were tiny.

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<v Speaker 3>So I got a needle and I started extracting the jug,

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<v Speaker 3>which I found out was Newbane after I read everything.

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<v Speaker 3>It was Newbane. And I started squirting.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just spin all over the I'm squirting in the toilet,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm scarting in the sink. I don't know how many

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<v Speaker 2>vials I got rid of that evening, but I got

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<v Speaker 2>rid of them.

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember I sat next to Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>I put my arms around him as he just rocked

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth, and he, I mean, he was dripping

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<v Speaker 2>in sweat, dripping in sweat.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said to Paul, what do I do?

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<v Speaker 2>And He's just like, just stay there until he falls

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<v Speaker 2>asleep and then in the morning we'll go over and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get him. And I was like, okay, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I did. I put him to bed.

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<v Speaker 3>I waited, I waited, I waited, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then finally I went back to my room. I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to Tammy and she was thank you, thank you, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And the next day he was fine. He was fine,

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<v Speaker 2>and Bambam came to me and he said, you got

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<v Speaker 2>rid of the stuff that was in the drawer and

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<v Speaker 2>I go, yeah, and he put his head down. He

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<v Speaker 2>shook his head and I said, what's the matter and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, it was mine.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, I didn't know what I said.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul told me to get rid of it, and he said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it was four hundred dollars worth of I said, would

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<v Speaker 2>you like my paycheck? I offered to give him my

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<v Speaker 2>paycheck and he said no, that's okay, and he walked away,

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<v Speaker 2>but his head was down.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said to myself, my god, I was told

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<v Speaker 3>to take care of him, and God, what if he

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<v Speaker 3>would have died?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? Like I didn't, I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't for I'm not familiar with this type of addiction.

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<v Speaker 2>So I literally I panicked. I was panicking, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just I just did what I was supposed to do,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And like Bamban wasn't mad, but he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of was just like but like he looked like he

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<v Speaker 2>was super bummed. And I was like, I'll give you

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<v Speaker 2>my I'll give you part of my paycheck to cover

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<v Speaker 2>the cost.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, you know, Paul told me to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get rid of it, and he's like, no, it's right,

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<v Speaker 2>and he knew it was for the better because if

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<v Speaker 2>I if me or someone else didn't show up that night,

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<v Speaker 2>and Chris continued to take that like God forbid, what.

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<v Speaker 3>Would have happened, right, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when I said to myself, something's wrong, like

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't normal behavior, but it wasn't my place to

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<v Speaker 2>step in. And I just told Chris, I said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>we're here for you, but you scared me. And he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>don't worry about it, I'm fine, and he went and

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<v Speaker 2>I remember we that was one of the only times

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<v Speaker 2>I think we had, like we got on this tiny,

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<v Speaker 2>tiny plane. I don't know if it was chart a

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<v Speaker 2>chartered plane just for us, but it was one of

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<v Speaker 2>those tiny ones that you take because the next down

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<v Speaker 2>isn't like too far over. So it was mostly us

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<v Speaker 2>on the plane, and he sat next to me on

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<v Speaker 2>the plane and he was joking around and he was fine,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just like, how do you bounce back from

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<v Speaker 2>something like that so quickly?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why I said to myself, maybe like is

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<v Speaker 3>this a pro or is this just.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Maybe it just got a little too

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<v Speaker 2>far one time it was an accident.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but apparently there was much more.

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<v Speaker 2>Like even watching this back now, apparently there was much

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<v Speaker 2>more to.

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<v Speaker 3>It than I even knew existed back then.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, you don't want to be a stooge,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to get your friends in trouble. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>when Paul calls you and tells you to do something,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I you know, whether it would have.

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<v Speaker 2>Been him or somebody else in that locker room, I

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<v Speaker 2>would have did that for any one of them because

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<v Speaker 2>they were my family. It was very difficult just to

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<v Speaker 2>watch and because then all these thoughts came back in

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<v Speaker 2>my head, and you know, I was there for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of this stuff between him and her, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>just it was it was a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wish they gave them more time, But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't wish they gave them more time because I wish

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<v Speaker 1>they could have told more of the story, but only

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<v Speaker 1>more of the story would have had more stories similar

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<v Speaker 1>to what you're describing now.

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<v Speaker 4>And I like where they kept the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, I know it doesn't have a happy ending, but

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<v Speaker 1>they kept it in a focus on Chris's life and

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<v Speaker 1>Chris's passion for wrestling and his love of the business

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<v Speaker 1>and just how the Dark Turn brought stuff down. But

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<v Speaker 1>I wish they gave them more time to tell more

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<v Speaker 1>of the story because they've given them two hours for

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<v Speaker 1>other shows or ninety minutes. I just wish they got

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<v Speaker 1>a little more time. And that's where that was a

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<v Speaker 1>little unfortunate, because I mean it kind of went like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he broke into he was running shows in the backyard,

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<v Speaker 1>then he was in Smoking Mountain. Then one day he's

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<v Speaker 1>in the WWF. Oh that was in ecw Oh, now.

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<v Speaker 4>He's in Tnah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they we did get We did did

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<v Speaker 1>get one glimpse of the triple threat throwing up the

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<v Speaker 1>triple threat symbol. We did get one brief little glimpse

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<v Speaker 1>if you paused it, but they completely missed, uh when

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<v Speaker 1>they were in WCW. Apparently that was not a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just no are with some of the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>You would think they would bring that up because that's

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<v Speaker 2>when they found the newbanees right, Allegedly Kim Page found

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<v Speaker 2>the new bane in the in the bathroom stock.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and that's when it got fired.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would think that would be a huge part

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<v Speaker 1>of the story, whether or not. You know, Tammy's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>part of the story is saying that that wasn't mine,

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't hers.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what she says.

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<v Speaker 1>But still it's a part of the story that carries

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<v Speaker 1>the narrative that they had these continuing problems that would

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<v Speaker 1>follow them. All Right, Francine, we're getting back in here

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, native sunscreen has been great. You know, we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>earlier that it's been kind of chilly, and I use

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<v Speaker 2>sunscreen all year round. I don't just use it in

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<v Speaker 2>from the uvveras So I started using it as soon

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<v Speaker 2>out anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I use it on my face underneath my makeup, and

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I like the unscented option. I don't like to

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<v Speaker 2>So right now, even though it's not a scent, I am.

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<v Speaker 5>Really digging Native's unsented sunscreen.

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<v Speaker 3>I apply it every day. I use it on my face.

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<v Speaker 2>If my upper dec latee area is being exposed, I

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<v Speaker 3>So I use it winter, spring, summer, and fall.

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<v Speaker 1>I do like that they brought up the Puerto Rico

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<v Speaker 1>stuff because again, that's another vital part of the story

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<v Speaker 1>because that's where he decided, no, we got to do

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<v Speaker 1>the turnaround. And when he came back to the States,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember it was like he came back like wildfire.

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<v Speaker 1>Because again I grew up in Jersey and any weekend

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<v Speaker 1>you could find.

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<v Speaker 4>Chris on a show.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find Bam Bam on a show in those

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four two thousand and five year or

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three two thousand and four years, and

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<v Speaker 1>Chris was putting on those same shows that he was

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<v Speaker 1>before he jumped to ww AF for Smoking Mountain or

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<v Speaker 1>wherever he went.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just felt that was my.

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<v Speaker 1>One critique is that they just went boom boom boom

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<v Speaker 1>from each place that he went. And I think they

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<v Speaker 1>could have with that, with time being what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>they could have pinpointed some specifics Innach territory.

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<v Speaker 2>I helped run an all girls show in Texas the

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<v Speaker 2>week before he died, and I booked Tammy on it

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<v Speaker 2>and Chris came. Chris came with her and he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to work, and I said, it's an all girls show,

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, I don't care, and so he put

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was Amy Lee. I think he put

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<v Speaker 2>Primetime Amy Lee over because he just and I said, Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no budget, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to work. He goes, I can't sit

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<v Speaker 3>here and not do something, and he worked and he

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<v Speaker 3>put her over. And that's the kind of guy Chris was.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. The brother said it when when he started,

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<v Speaker 2>and Johnny when he when Chris started, he would just

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<v Speaker 2>drive the shows and even if he wasn't booked, he

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<v Speaker 2>tried to get on them, and there was no payday.

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<v Speaker 3>He just wanted to have fun because he loved the

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<v Speaker 3>I'd never met a guy who loved the business as

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<v Speaker 3>much as Chris Candido. Never in my life. Everything was wrestling.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything was wrestling, and he wanted to make it fun

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<v Speaker 3>and make it a good time. And I said it

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<v Speaker 3>a million times. If you look at the Triple Threat,

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<v Speaker 3>Chris was the comedy guy. Even though he could work

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<v Speaker 3>his ass off and he could cut a promo, he

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<v Speaker 3>was the comedy in that you know, trio of men

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<v Speaker 3>and just made it so fun. One thing that stands out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was Cornett or mcfoley who

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<v Speaker 2>said it, but they said the biggest addiction that Chris

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<v Speaker 2>had was Tammy. Yes, okay, And that got me. That

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<v Speaker 2>got me because you know, Tammy has had her share

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<v Speaker 2>of suitors, whether they were broken up or not. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean some people would argue the fact and say they

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<v Speaker 2>were still together.

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<v Speaker 3>She always had said no, we split.

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<v Speaker 2>Up when I was with Sean or you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>the other people that she was with, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris just seemed to let it roll off his back,

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<v Speaker 2>and that makes me sick to my stomach the way

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<v Speaker 2>he just took it that I never understood. I understand

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<v Speaker 2>you want to keep your your spot. I get that,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's your girl, Like I don't. That part to me,

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<v Speaker 2>like blows my mind. That dynamic with those two shit

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<v Speaker 2>when they were good, they were so good and I

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<v Speaker 2>loved them as a couple.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you you.

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<v Speaker 2>Go back and you see all that kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that she did and it's just like God, it was hard.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just hard to digest that part for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't that, I don't the infidelity like that, I don't,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know right under his nose. I've seen it

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<v Speaker 2>where the wives or even the husbands are home and

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<v Speaker 2>girls are and guys are doing their own thing. But god,

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<v Speaker 2>you're on the road together.

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<v Speaker 3>How could you?

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that those stories have been bannied about

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<v Speaker 1>four years a thud when I got the internet in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety seven. That was being talked about on the

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<v Speaker 1>internet in nineteen ninety seven. Okay, and they were still

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<v Speaker 1>very tam you still in the WWF, and Chris was

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<v Speaker 1>still technically under contract to the WWF.

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<v Speaker 3>But in ec.

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<v Speaker 4>Amazing how.

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<v Speaker 1>The narrative changed though, because when Chris was alive, they

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<v Speaker 1>were still together on paper. When Chris passed away, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when it was revealed, Oh no, we were on a break.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't you know, I'm obviously just as an outsider,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to go by what we hear. I just

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe how much of an outward he must have

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<v Speaker 1>had nerves of steel to be able to hear that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>And it wasn't just about Seaw Michaels.

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<v Speaker 1>It was other people that were said and rumored for

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<v Speaker 1>years that And look, I'm sure Chris, good looking dude,

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<v Speaker 1>jack to the gills, he could have had anybody he wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure I've never heard.

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<v Speaker 2>Of infidelities by Chris. I've never heard of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Not one time. He was so in love with her,

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<v Speaker 3>and I remember the guys used to be like, why

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<v Speaker 3>why there's so many pretty girls out there? And that

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<v Speaker 3>was part.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was part of like, you know, before

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<v Speaker 2>she came over to ECW, I said this in other interviews,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was warned about Tammy. You're not gonna like her,

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<v Speaker 2>You're not going to get along, And I'm like, why not. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>she's very difficult to deal with her egos through the roof.

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<v Speaker 3>She's this, she's that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I never had a problem with Tammy never. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even think we've ever really had an argument. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've known her. When did she come to the ECB.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even remember what year she so.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe she technically gets there ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I've known her since nineteen ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 2>And everybody said, watch out, watch out, she's going to

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<v Speaker 2>try to steal your spots. She's going to try to

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<v Speaker 2>do this, she's going to try to bury you.

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<v Speaker 3>Never never did she so in that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've never said a bad word about Tammy

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<v Speaker 2>business wise, and she's been my friend for years, and

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<v Speaker 2>everything that I've said, I've said to her face.

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<v Speaker 3>I've set it to her face.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you guys said that on camera to each other. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a shoot interview where you guys talked about stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you've said to one another.

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<v Speaker 4>You've you've talked about it in person. I want to

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<v Speaker 4>just clarify one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy did make appearances in ninety seven because she was

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<v Speaker 1>there right next.

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<v Speaker 4>To Paul Hayman helping time right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, so that's when I'm at her Okay, okay, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But she was not full time with ECW until ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's I just want to clarify that.

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<v Speaker 4>Just Cambrane, as the timeline goes through my head.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, whenever she came, we clicked from the beginning, and

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<v Speaker 2>I said it before her. Chris, me and Shane would

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<v Speaker 2>would go in like days early, or stay a couple

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 2>of days after and make like if we went to

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Fort Lauderdale, or if we went somewhere sunny with a beach,

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.640
<v Speaker 2>or we would like take it as an opportunity to vacation,

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:53.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, and just hang out and have a good time.

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 2>And I never ever ever gotten any kind of arguments

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:05.520
<v Speaker 2>with her, uh, personally or professionally. She was a pleasure

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:08.119
<v Speaker 2>to work with. And I will say that and stand

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:10.479
<v Speaker 2>by that. I loved working with Tammy.

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:11.479
<v Speaker 3>Loved it.

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 2>So everybody who told me she was a nightmare, I

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 2>was just like, Wow, you know, you hear like I

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:20.240
<v Speaker 2>always hear things about people, But I'm the kind of

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 2>person like I'll be on my toes, but I'm gonna

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:24.639
<v Speaker 2>judge you for how you treat me.

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:27.879
<v Speaker 3>And she never treated me poorly.

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 2>And you know, to this day, I love Tammy, but

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 2>I hate the person that she's become. So before anybody

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:40.879
<v Speaker 2>comes at me for saying, oh, she's a murderer, she's this,

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 2>I know what she did and I hate that about her.

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:47.160
<v Speaker 3>I hate it. And the way.

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Things are looking, I will probably never speak to her again.

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:53.359
<v Speaker 2>And that breaks my heart. And it hurts me to

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:57.960
<v Speaker 2>see a girl who had the world by the balls

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 2>and had everything in the palm of her hand, everything

0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:06.639
<v Speaker 2>that she could want. She had a loyal boyfriend, a

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.199
<v Speaker 2>job where she was on TV and she was the

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 2>focus of attention.

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:13.880
<v Speaker 3>She had the talent, she had, the charisma, she had

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:14.760
<v Speaker 3>the beauty, she.

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Had everything, and she made it all disappear because of

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 2>freaking poor choices.

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:28.200
<v Speaker 3>You know, you correct mistakes. You can't keep making.

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:31.439
<v Speaker 2>This mistake over and over again and expected to you know,

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 2>be Okay, how many times did she do this to herself?

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 2>I can't give her a pass for that just because

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:40.040
<v Speaker 2>she's my friend and.

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:43.479
<v Speaker 3>I love her. I judge her by that now, and

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 3>it infuriates me.

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.919
<v Speaker 2>It makes me so mad because I know the person

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 2>she was before all this stuff happened. And I'm telling

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 2>you right now, as soon as Chris passed away, downward spiral, I've.

0:26:58.440 --> 0:26:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Seen such a change.

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:03.119
<v Speaker 2>And people, you know, like doctor Tom he wasn't fond

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:05.879
<v Speaker 2>of her, you know, when he was working with her,

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 2>And I get that, but I didn't see that that

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 2>side of Tammy. What I saw was a good person

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 2>until Chris died, and she was still good to me.

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 2>But her lifestyle changed her. You know, the men she

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 2>was saying like, some of them were okay, but then

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 2>there were a lot of them who.

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 3>Were just straight up losers. And she started drinking heavily more.

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.439
<v Speaker 2>And it was it got to the point where I

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 2>told her to her face, you have a problem. You

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:42.679
<v Speaker 2>need to get help. No, I'm fine, I can control it.

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a problem.

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:45.879
<v Speaker 3>And when I watched it and.

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:49.360
<v Speaker 2>They played the voice recording of her and she was laughing, Oh,

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 2>seventy uys and she's laughing. I don't care if that's

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 2>a nervous laugh or not. That is infuriating.

0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:58.439
<v Speaker 3>I have kids.

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:01.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm on the road with my kids, taking them somewhere,

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 2>and some asshole drunk driver hits me.

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:10.360
<v Speaker 3>God forbid, No, that's not okay one one time you

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 3>do it.

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's it's not okay once. But she did

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 2>it seven eight times.

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Come on, come on.

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I can't give her a pass for that because she's

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 2>my friend. I love her, but I hate her at

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 2>the same time. I hate I hate the person she's become.

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell her that to her face too, she

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 2>ever sees this, I will tell her that to her face.

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, when she came on with us, I mean she's

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.959
<v Speaker 1>telling us about how she had the best jobs and

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 1>they loved her. Yeah, I mean she essentially never learned

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>from the mistakes no.

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 4>That she made.

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 1>And then after she was on with us, we I

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>think we had the last interview that she had.

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 4>She might have done one.

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 3>First, I know, we had the first one.

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>We had, but then I think we had the last

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>technically before everything happened with the incident with the driver

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 1>that she hit, and she essentially learned nothing from that

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>interview that we were conducting. I mean, it was jokey

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>and it was this, and it was that, and it

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>was amazing. But your your vigor has I mean, it's built.

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>It's built over the years. You could just by knowing you.

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 4>I've seen you. Know you you say the same thing,

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 4>but I've seen it.

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Because like you said, that could be you or I

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 1>in that car that that was struck.

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 2>It's it's disgusting, it's disgusting. She had the money because

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 2>of this only fans thing.

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 3>That she was.

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 4>She was dominated.

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 3>She was making money hand over foot.

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 2>She would text me because I was still talking to

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 2>her this whole time. We were still friends. I was

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 2>still talking to her. We had just done Russell Keid

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 2>together and it was the first time that we ever

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 2>roomed together, believe it or not, because she always roomed with,

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, Chris, she.

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Was only always on the road. She always roomed with Chris.

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 3>This was the first time her and I shared a

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 3>hotel room. We had the best weekend, not a drop

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 3>of alcohol.

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 2>I told her, I'm not going to drink in respect

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 2>to you, because I you know, I don't want to,

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, entice anybody that can't control their liquor.

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 3>So I and I don't have to drink when I'm

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 3>on the road.

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, we ordered food, we watched TV, we laughed.

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, she was showing me her only fans page.

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 2>She was showed me the guys that were on there.

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 2>She was making so much freaking money. You mean to

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 2>tell me, if you have to go somewhere, you can't

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 2>call an uber to take you.

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 3>You have to get in the freaking car drunk. No,

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 2>That is inexcusable and it's disgusting and it makes my

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 2>stomach turn.

0:30:58.040 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 3>And I would tell her that.

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 1>If you don't mind, let me ask you a question

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>on the timeline. What do you remember about Chris and

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Tammy's suspension for me?

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Cw I, I see, I don't really remember them not

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 2>being around for that long. I know the part where

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 2>they talked about the credit cards, like Chris always would

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 2>tell me, oh my god, we bought this, we put

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 2>the flates on our card, and now he's not given

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 2>me any money, Like I remember living through that with

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 2>them because we were all going through kind of similar situations.

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much money he was owed.

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 4>It was a lot, they it was a lot.

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 3>It was a lot.

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Tammy gave the numbers on one of her shoot interviews

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>and if that is the true number, and then.

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 3>Over one hundred thousands.

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, it was more. It was Yeah.

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>It was incredible because they ended up losing their their house,

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>their dream house that they had in the around the

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>area where I lived in Jersey, and the mom confirmed

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>that they lost the house because of the credit card.

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Debt, right right, I do remember all of that.

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 2>I remember when I remember being really angry when Tammy

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 2>did the TNN peace. Yes, I feel like Paul exploited

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 2>her and that that it shouldn't have happened. And I

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 2>know it was for ratings, but I feel like he

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 2>took advantage of her. I don't know what the leverage

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 2>was with that, like you know, we'll get your job.

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Was it you'll get your job back if you do

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 2>this for us, so to speak, or something like I

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 2>don't to me, it was that was too much and

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 2>she was so vulnerable and it was that was painful

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 2>to watch. I didn't like seeing her in that light,

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 2>so I think he I think he definitely took advantage

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 2>of her in that situation.

0:32:56.640 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 3>But I don't remember them not being maybe.

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Because I kept in touch with both of them, Like

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I was still talking because we were friends, so I

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 2>was still talking to them. But I don't really know

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 2>how long they were gone for, Like.

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 1>It's more of a road suspension than it was overall

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>because they were working technically in the office because of

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>the flights.

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but like how how long was it? Like I

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 3>don't I don't know, I don't remember, but like I

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 3>do know that like E.

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 2>CW is where Chris shined. It's where he I mean,

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 2>he was talented every run that he had, you know,

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 2>pure talent. But I feel like in E CW. He

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 2>was on top where he rightfully deserved it. I've said

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 2>it a million times. I think that him and Shane

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 2>should have you know, he should have turned heel or

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 2>some I mean we were heels anyway, but he should

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 2>have turned on Shane and had a run for the

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 2>heavyweight belt.

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 3>I think that we could have did so much, the

0:33:57.760 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 3>four of us could.

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Have did so much with an angle like that and

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 2>we teased it for a little bit, but it never really,

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 2>nothing ever happened. So I just man, I just look

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:17.280
<v Speaker 2>back and it's just both of them so talented, so

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:21.280
<v Speaker 2>so talented, and to see him with that impact TNA

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 2>footage and how happy he was and.

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 3>How good he looked, and you know, that morning.

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.320
<v Speaker 2>That he passed away, I was I was just leaving

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 2>my house. I lived in Delaware. I was going to

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 2>the Philly airport. I had a gig in California. I

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:43.319
<v Speaker 2>had a flight in like two hours or something. I

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 2>was just getting ready to get in the car and

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 2>my phone rang and it was Tammy hysterical telling me

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Chris had died.

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 3>And I just froze. I was like, why what? And

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:53.799
<v Speaker 3>She's like, he's gone, He's going.

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 2>She was screaming into the phone, and I don't know

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:57.399
<v Speaker 2>what I'm gonna do.

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 3>I like panicking. Can I come live with you? She

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 3>has to live with me? I said, oh, Tammy, I

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't. I don't know. You know.

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting ready to get on a plane right now.

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 2>And to this day it breaks my heart that I

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 2>did not get to.

0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:14.320
<v Speaker 3>Go to his funeral.

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>That that is a memory with me that I just

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 2>can't like shake it, and.

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 3>But you know I would two hours my flight.

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 2>I had no idea, like if it would have happened before,

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 2>I could have made.

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Plans and stuff.

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 2>But that that always breaks my heart that I didn't

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.839
<v Speaker 2>get to go because I was away. You know, I

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 2>was there for I don't know how long I was

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 2>there for, but I was there when the funeral happened.

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 2>And that was a hard one for me because I

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 2>loved Chris with all my heart still do. I still do,

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 2>and when I pray at night, I always include Chris

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 2>and Louis in my prayers.

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Louis Pecoley.

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:58.919
<v Speaker 4>Always got a small glimpse of him as well.

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:03.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, Brad Bradford mashing on the way to the

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Ring with Skip again just I you know, for if

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 1>you're a YouTube member, you saw our preview of Dark

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Side of the Ring, and you know, Francine has gone

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>a record many times saying not a big fan of

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the series for the negative light that it has shed

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 1>on many, many, many personalities and incidents throughout the history

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 1>of wrestling. I tend to agree, although I have said

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 1>that there are a few episodes I do like this one.

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I have to put at the top of the list,

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 1>and I reached out. I said to Johnny Candido, I said,

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 1>this was a wonderful put together piece, and I hope

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 1>your family got what you guys wanted out of it,

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>because I think it was well done and it was

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>gripping and it was emotional, and I very I as

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.799
<v Speaker 1>a fan of Chris, was happy with how it was done.

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>So I was hoping that they were as well, and

0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 1>it seems like they were. So it was, you know,

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>again just just for I mean who they called. I mean,

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:04.879
<v Speaker 1>they talked to Lance, they talked to Cornett, they talked

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to the doctor. To the way they broke down, I mean,

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 1>that was that was you couldn't you couldn't not be

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 1>a human being and feel that emotion coming off the

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 1>screen from from those guys, I mean, and then the

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>field coming from you.

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:17.879
<v Speaker 4>The impact that he.

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Had on his his canadres and his his coworkers is unbelievable.

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 4>His friends, That's what we'll say it.

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And like watching that.

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 2>To see Cornett break down like that, because you know,

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:37.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not really familiar with Jim Cornett, right, I know,

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 2>like I've seen his work obviously, but like the person

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.919
<v Speaker 2>Jim Cornett and everybody talks about his podcast and how

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 2>he shits on everyone.

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 3>And it was touching to see.

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Him break down like that because I've never seen that

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 2>emotion from him before. So you can tell he generally

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 2>loved Chris, and you know, he's the one that gave

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:03.800
<v Speaker 2>them their break, their start, and he always spoke highly

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 2>of Chris, so that was nice to see. I was

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:11.400
<v Speaker 2>a little shocked that Shane wasn't involved with this project.

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I thought that he would be one of the guys

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 2>that they would call to talk, but he wasn't.

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 3>You know, he wasn't one of them.

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 2>But the people that were selected, you know, knew him

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 2>and loved him.

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 3>And talked about him in positively.

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 2>You're not going to meet I mean, I don't know

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:35.239
<v Speaker 2>if you'll ever meet anyone that talks about Chris in

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 2>a negative way.

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:40.840
<v Speaker 3>You can't professionally. There's no way anybody.

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 2>On this planet could talk about him negatively professionally because

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:49.799
<v Speaker 2>everything that he did was for the business. I mean,

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 2>you saw that room when when his brother walked through

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:55.360
<v Speaker 2>the room, and the drawings and the pictures and the belt,

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:57.959
<v Speaker 2>and God, he loved the sport so much.

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, he just loved it and it killed him.

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 3>It ultimately killed.

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Him if you think about it him.

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 4>It was wrestling, Yeah, very true.

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Johnny told me all about the room and it's he said,

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:17.360
<v Speaker 1>it's kept the way it was left. Yeah, in that

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:20.240
<v Speaker 1>in their house, it is the way it was left,

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and that it's he calls it Chris's office, and it's

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 1>the way it was left back then.

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 4>And it's that what you can't you can't feel the.

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Impact that he left to somebody who knew him, but

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 1>you can feel the impact that he left on an industry.

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>And when something can immortalize it like a piece like that,

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.719
<v Speaker 1>that that'll never go away. And I hope that somebody

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:47.240
<v Speaker 1>last night watching it for the first time discovered Chris

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Candido and it is going to go back and watch matches,

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:52.759
<v Speaker 1>watch the good stuff, not focus on the you know,

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 1>some of these things that weren't so great in life,

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>but look at the stuff that he did.

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 4>And and like Cornett said, he would.

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Still if he was active today, if he was still wrestling,

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:04.879
<v Speaker 1>which I'm sure he would have been because he wasn't

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 1>that old, he would be one of.

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 4>The top guys in the industry.

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:12.399
<v Speaker 2>He would be in the sport in some capacity, whether

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:14.880
<v Speaker 2>it would be as an active wrestler or a coach.

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean he would be He would have been a

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 2>tremendous coach or agent. You know, he'd be somewhere definitely

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 2>probably aew how would.

0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 3>Be my guess.

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:33.440
<v Speaker 2>He had so much knowledge and just been doing it

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 2>for so long.

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 4>But let me tell you.

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you a little context. And I mean, and

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:40.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know parts of the story.

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:46.360
<v Speaker 1>By about two thousand tuish two thousand and three, you know,

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 1>the reputation had preceded him because of the association and

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 1>because of the history with him and Tammy. He was

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to get back in with WWE and the trainer

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:02.239
<v Speaker 1>per you know role, and he was trying and basically

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:06.360
<v Speaker 1>was told like, look, you gotta prove it. You gotta

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:09.879
<v Speaker 1>show us that you're good, and if you're good, we'll

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>bring you back. Because he was training guys. He was

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:15.200
<v Speaker 1>he was in that room when the rock was being

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 1>broken in. You know, he was there early in ninety

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 1>six when he was still an active guy on their roster.

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, when he was when he was hurt. You know,

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 1>they basically transitioned him into helping train guys in like

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and two, two thousand and three, he could

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:33.280
<v Speaker 1>have been brought back, but unfortunately, because of the stigma

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 1>there was at the time, he wasn't and that's a shame.

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 4>And he could have been and built a huge, huge

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 4>career out of that.

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 3>His life would have been different because it wouldn't.

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 2>He wouldn't have He would have been wrestling in TNA

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 2>and broke his leg or his ankle. It's just, man,

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:55.839
<v Speaker 2>It's funny how life works.

0:41:54.800 --> 0:42:01.439
<v Speaker 3>I just something like a doctor telling you, okay, don't

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:04.960
<v Speaker 3>get on that plane. Why did he get on the

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Why would why would he risk his life for one

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 3>freaking show? You know what I mean? Like heel up,

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 3>he was in his mind.

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.720
<v Speaker 2>He was probably like, you know, I'm in this angle

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:20.479
<v Speaker 2>and they're gonna push me and I need to be there.

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 3>And god, they would have waited for him.

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, he was mad.

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 3>They would have waited.

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:26.880
<v Speaker 4>He was great.

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>He was helping catapult that team. They became such like

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 1>a great part of that Impact Show or whatever it

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 1>was called at that time. And Tammy said, you know,

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:39.120
<v Speaker 1>he could have stayed at you know, and Shane said

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:41.319
<v Speaker 1>it to They could have stayed at Shane's place. They

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:46.319
<v Speaker 1>had plenty of friends in the Florida Orlando area, just

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, he wanted to get home, Jesus. So, if

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:55.359
<v Speaker 1>you haven't had a chance to check it out, I'm

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 1>sure they're rerunning it.

0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure it's gonna pop up on YouTube. I'm sure

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 4>it's on YouTube now. It is on YouTube.

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:05.439
<v Speaker 2>How many people put the episode up already, the whole episode, So.

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 4>Do yourself a favorite check it out.

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:12.240
<v Speaker 2>It was just really really hard to watch, really really

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 2>difficult to watch for me.

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 3>I loved seeing him again.

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 2>I loved seeing you know, the footage of them in

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 2>the ring because he was so good.

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:24.279
<v Speaker 3>He was so good.

0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 2>Dare I say, hardly anyone better than Chris as an

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 2>overall performer, Like he was just so freaking good.

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:35.800
<v Speaker 3>And just just a waste.

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Just makes me so angry, Like both of them just

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:44.719
<v Speaker 2>make me so freaking angry. It's just and I can't

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 2>imagine what his mom is feeling watching that back, Like

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:48.920
<v Speaker 2>it's just horrible.

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:53.719
<v Speaker 3>It's just it's a horrible thing for a mother to

0:43:53.840 --> 0:44:05.640
<v Speaker 3>lease their child. Sad Kah. I was dreading doing this today, Like, yeah,

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 3>just dreading it. I knew I was gonna lose it.

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 3>But I just I just loved I loved him.

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:27.000
<v Speaker 6>I love him mhm, and I love her, and I

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 6>just I just.

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:32.799
<v Speaker 3>That's our that's from that's our picture, because I know

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:33.920
<v Speaker 3>that background.

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 2>A m.

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 3>Just makes me angry. It's terrible. He had so much

0:44:48.560 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 3>more life to live and so much more to give.

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:57.879
<v Speaker 2>And people were saying he died a long time ago

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 2>from a broken heart, and that.

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 3>That makes me upset as well. I know how much

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 3>he loved Tammy. I know it, and I do think

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 3>that she loved him to an extent. Just god, it's

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 3>just such a messed up story.

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:24.279
<v Speaker 2>I was just happy that I knew him, and you know,

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 2>we had a very very strong bond and a good friendship,

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 2>and I could remember us sitting around laughing, joking. You know,

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 2>it went beyond being colleagues, and he was a dear

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:40.800
<v Speaker 2>friend of mine.

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 3>I just I miss him. I think about him every day.

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:48.319
<v Speaker 3>I miss him.

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:53.320
<v Speaker 2>And when the mother said I wish I could have

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:57.919
<v Speaker 2>been there to help him like that broke my heart

0:45:57.960 --> 0:45:59.759
<v Speaker 2>because there was nothing she could have did. I mean,

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:01.720
<v Speaker 2>the only thing that she could have did was comforted

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:05.239
<v Speaker 2>him and held his hand and said that she loved him.

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 3>But she couldn't fit the situation.

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Heartbreaking, absolutely heartbreaking. Again. Please, if you haven't seen it,

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 1>go check it out and do yourself a favorite. Educate

0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:29.719
<v Speaker 1>yourself on Chris's career and watch a match or two

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 1>and see what he left on the business, because it's

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 1>a very strong impact. So if there's nothing else to add, Francine,

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll wrap it up for you and we'll catch you

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 1>next time on Eyes up here for the Queen of Extreme,

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:48.800
<v Speaker 1>says the Chancellor.

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:50.920
<v Speaker 4>No gimmicks needed,