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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Jacomute. Welcome to The Philly Show. Ruben Tomorrow, Junior,

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Speaker 1: Jim Salisbury, Todd's a lucky ay. It's the Philly Show.

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Speaker 1: It's Monday, November third, twenty twenty five. Hope everybody had

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Speaker 1: a great week weekend. Friday was Halloween, Game six and

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Speaker 1: then Game seven was Saturday night, and man, that was

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Speaker 1: a good one. That was a great Game seven in

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Speaker 1: so many different ways. Feel terrible for the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 1: Fans feel bad for the Blue Jays. But great world series,

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Speaker 1: great world series, fantastic fantasy.

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Speaker 2: Once they got that bottom of the eighth, they get

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Speaker 2: that lead guy on second base, bottom of the eighth,

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Speaker 2: no als Man on second and they didn't even advance

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Speaker 2: that runner. You got to get that runner home and

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Speaker 2: give Hoffman a two run cushion. I kind of had

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Speaker 2: a bad feeling right when they didn't get that run home,

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Speaker 2: and the bad feeling proved to be true. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: was kind of pulling for Blue Jays. I like the underdogs.

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Speaker 2: Me too, but you know, they made a few base

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Speaker 2: running blunders in that series. And much like when the

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Speaker 2: Phillies were eliminated on fundamental mistakes, the little things matter.

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Speaker 2: They don't kill you on May tenth. They don't kill

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Speaker 2: you on June twenty ninth. They kill you in October.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, that play at the plate, Isaiah Kiner, FILEFFA didn't

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Speaker 1: get that good secondary lead.

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Speaker 2: And then you can double off in game six.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: So a little means a lot, Charlie Man, you used

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Speaker 3: to talk about that a lot. And you can go

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Speaker 3: with that, Todd, because it's gonna be our first pitch.

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Speaker 1: That's reight, let's go that. Let's let's go first pitch.

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Speaker 1: Series is over, and that means free agency begins. Free

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Speaker 1: agency begins. Teams have a few more days to negotiate

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Speaker 1: and sign their own players. It almost never happens, but

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Speaker 1: the Phillies of course came out and said, we want

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Speaker 1: to bring back Kyleis shwarbur jt Rio Monto, we would

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Speaker 1: love to sign Ranger Suarez. They've said, although nobody really

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Speaker 1: expects that to happen, they've said, we'd like to bring

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Speaker 1: back Harrison Bader, we'll see about that. So today's show,

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Speaker 1: we're going to go over some of the names on

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Speaker 1: the free agent market, and we're gonna give our opinions

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Speaker 1: on are they are these guys fits for the Phillies?

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Speaker 1: Are they not fits for the Phillies, And just give

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Speaker 1: people an idea of what's out there, because while they

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Speaker 1: think and hope to resign Kyleigh Warbur and JT. Realmuto,

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Speaker 1: it's free agency, so nothing is guarantee, gentlemen, nothing is guaranteed.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: I've had a lot of people say to me the

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Speaker 1: last few days, are they going to sign Swarbi? I

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Speaker 1: And I said, I know they really really want to

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Speaker 1: sign them, but who knows, So they have to have

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Speaker 1: backup options. So tell us what you think if you're

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Speaker 1: watching us, throw some comments on YouTube. Let us know

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Speaker 1: who we missed. What you think of some of our

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Speaker 1: free agent guys. Same thing on all of our social

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Speaker 1: media channels. So guys, let's start at Catcher. They want

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Speaker 1: to bring back j T. Let's say somebody offers him

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Speaker 1: and the Phillies go, oh my gosh, we've got no catcher.

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Speaker 1: If you looked at the list of free agent catchers,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to trade. We're gonna do a trade

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Speaker 1: episode later this week, so we're not going to talk

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Speaker 1: about trade options today. We're gonna stick to free agency.

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Speaker 1: The free agent catching options are not that great. Salvador

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Speaker 1: Prez is at the top of the list, but he's

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Speaker 1: two best guys in the list, Victor Carrattini Danny Janssen.

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Speaker 1: Either those guys give you any flow.

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Speaker 3: Oh now, Jansen gives me a little bit of a

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Speaker 3: defensive flow and carr Teeny a little offensive flow. But

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Speaker 3: as far as an everyday catcher, I mean, you're basically

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Speaker 3: feel about that. I'd rather go with Marshawn, and I

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Speaker 4: He's an option.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's how you get a little bit younger on

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Speaker 3: in this young man because he just really I mean,

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Speaker 3: while he stayed healthy pretty much all year this year,

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Speaker 4: I like Marshawn.

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Speaker 3: He's grown, He's grown up a little bit, and I

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Speaker 3: think that he's done. He did a good job in

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I feel like JT's coming back. I think there's probably

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Speaker 2: huge mutual interest. I know, we we know there's a

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Speaker 2: have to explore a trade. But you know, march On

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Speaker 2: could be the guy. But I still think come opening

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Speaker 2: day JT is back here. That's the way I feel

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Speaker 2: like it's going to go to.

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Speaker 5: What you think about whether, say JT has offered a

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Speaker 5: Phillies and a four year deal at thirteen million dollars

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Speaker 5: a year by some other club, Where's he going to go?

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Speaker 1: I think he would come back to Philly. I do,

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Speaker 1: I do think he I do. I do think he

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Speaker 1: likes it here. But you know, I was thinking about

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Speaker 1: this the other day. You know, nowadays, players are signed

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Speaker 1: But I feel like the Phillies might have to kind

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Speaker 1: even though his offensive numbers are down, because of everything

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Speaker 1: he means to his team and kind of what he

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Speaker 1: I said, they don't pay for the past. They pay

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Speaker 1: But I think in a case like JT, you might

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Speaker 1: I think he wants to say I agree with Jim,

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Speaker 1: I think he wants to stay.

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Speaker 4: I think he wants to stay too.

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Speaker 3: Here's my thing, though, and I lived it as a

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Speaker 4: Detrimental.

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Speaker 3: And when you try to make that transition, so you

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Speaker 4: I love JT, love.

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Speaker 3: Them, but you always want to try to I mean,

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Speaker 3: just from my own experience, you'd rather start breaking things

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Speaker 2: And I hear you on that, but it's tough when

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I love j Don't get me wrong. I

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Speaker 3: I know what he means to this team. But these

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Speaker 1: going back to the outfield for Carlos Santana. No disrespect

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Speaker 4: So it's gotta be.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. Oh Jim, now you mention it. The number one

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Speaker 2: Completely agree. This is the guy that gives me big flow.

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Speaker 1: I remember in March of twenty twenty two of the

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Speaker 4: Effort was a team effort.

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Speaker 2: You know, membership has its privileges, and Kyle Schwarber has

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Speaker 1: His his influence on that clubhouse is just tremendous. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can't say Pete can't do that or other guys

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm right, I'm right with you, And I know

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Speaker 2: He had a really good year. He had a really

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Speaker 3: I know that in New York he handled it just okay,

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Speaker 4: But I just see him in a different uniform.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of a long shot, but I wanted to

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Speaker 8: I'm not sure whether it be teams knocking down the door.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, if you don't sign uh Schwarber and you

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Speaker 2: hit under two hundred. I again, the threat, the power,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's high strikeout, he's streaky. He gets on

434
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Speaker 2: these strikeout streaks, but he also gets on these home

435
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Speaker 2: run binges. A I don't know if it's he's gonna

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Speaker 2: cost less than Bragman. I'd rather have Bragman if it

437
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Speaker 2: came down to it at third base again so much

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Speaker 2: who just hinges on what's gonna happen with Schwarmer because

439
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Speaker 2: I just don't know if they can do another payday

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Speaker 2: that these guys are going to be looking for. But

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Speaker 2: if I knew I could get to the Suarez that

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Speaker 2: he was this year in Arizona, yeah, i'd have. I

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Speaker 2: think that would look good behind Bryce Harper, right.

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Speaker 3: I guess to me it's whether or not k Long

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Speaker 3: can convince the front office that they can make him

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Speaker 3: a little bit more complete a hitter, because if you don't,

447
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Speaker 3: then you're looking at about the same swort of guy.

448
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Speaker 3: What their problems have been over the years with the strikeouts.

449
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Speaker 3: You've been trying to get guys who make a little contact.

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Speaker 4: Put the ball in play, who are not too streaky.

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Speaker 4: But this is one of those streaky guys.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to try to pound the baseball out

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Speaker 3: of the ballpark against teams and try to beat him

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Speaker 3: to submission in that way, or do you want to

455
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Speaker 3: more complete hitter and a Bregman or someone like that.

456
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Speaker 4: Who's who's good? Who's good?

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Speaker 3: To do more things offensively as far as changing up

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Speaker 3: the look of the lineup. Uh, this might be a

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Speaker 3: little bit more of the same. But is he an option, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: if you don't get some other things done. I think

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Speaker 3: he's a little bit further down the line.

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Speaker 2: If you don't get some other things done, you know.

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Speaker 2: In other words, Schwarber is Boba Schett an option at

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Speaker 2: third base?

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Speaker 4: I know he really has for me.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't played there, but I'm sure he could play there.

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Speaker 2: If you can play shortstop, you can play anywhere in

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Speaker 2: the infield. Maybe that's a little bit of creative, creative

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Speaker 2: option they could ponder. He's much younger than Suarez, and.

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Speaker 1: He'll be twenty eight next season, so.

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Speaker 2: It's a few years younger than those guys.

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Speaker 4: I love the chet swagger.

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Speaker 3: I like the fact that, I mean, this is a

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Speaker 3: guy who before he was hurt this year and struggled

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Speaker 3: some with his health.

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Speaker 4: That's a concern. Before he struggled with his health.

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Speaker 3: This guy's at what two hundred hits a year. He

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Speaker 3: ain't gonna walk a lot, but he'll put it that

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Speaker 3: sucker in play and he let the ball the other way.

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Speaker 3: He's a baseball player. He's got great pedigree. Uh, he

481
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Speaker 3: was almost a world champion this year. I know it

482
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Speaker 3: was like one play away from being a world champion, but.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I really like this guy. Man.

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Speaker 9: I like him, so he would give me some flow

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Speaker 9: to play third base or second he could or second

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Speaker 9: base or second base.

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Speaker 2: Two positions. He could play three positions, no question, But

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Speaker 2: you're not going to probably move his best thing.

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Speaker 10: He's better off staying out of short stop because he's

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Speaker 10: he's not doesn't quite fit the pedigree of being a

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Speaker 10: short I know he played it and did a pretty

492
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Speaker 10: good job of it, but I mean the metrics play

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Speaker 10: out on him and the eye test as far as

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Speaker 10: shortstop is concerned, I'd rather have Turner short with the

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Speaker 10: way Turner played, and I'd probably go with with the

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Speaker 10: set at third base. I think he's a really really

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Speaker 10: interesting option there.

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Speaker 1: I love that idea. I mean, you talk about a

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Speaker 1: guy a team that needs to put the ball in playmore.

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Speaker 1: A guy hit three eleven this year, so and you said,

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Speaker 1: like two hundred hits the season that changes the dynamic

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Speaker 1: of Atlantup. One last third baseman I want to mention

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Speaker 1: is Munny Taka for Ekami from Japan. He's the big

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Speaker 1: triple crown winner over in Japan. And for what it's worth,

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Speaker 1: I just want to mention this Nikan sports report of

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Speaker 1: this this week or last week that the Yankees, Mets, Phillies,

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Speaker 1: and Mariners are among the teams that can make a

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Speaker 1: big push for him. Which take that for what it is.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but all the big money teams, all

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Speaker 1: the big money teams figure right, imagine, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: got big time power supposedly, you know, based off his

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Speaker 1: production in Japan, but he also has been striking out

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Speaker 1: a lot more and walking a lot less.

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Speaker 4: See is he a left handed hitter?

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Speaker 2: I've seen left handed.

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Speaker 4: I think he's left handed. I'm sorry for not knowing this.

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Speaker 4: I should probably be on top of it.

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Speaker 2: But and I hear his defense is only so. So

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Speaker 2: he's more of a fresh baseman. Don't you got enough

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Speaker 2: of that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Right, you got a DH maybe in his future. So

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Speaker 1: I wanted to mention him. All right, So coming up

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Speaker 1: I that outfield could look really different. I mean this

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Speaker 1: is you know, Nick Castians could get traded or released.

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Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't sound like he's going to be back.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect him to be back. You know, Harrison

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Speaker 1: Vader might not return. Sounds like Justin Crawford is I

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, sure sounds like he's gonna

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Speaker 1: Max Kepler's not coming back, but we've got Justin Crawford ready.

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Speaker 1: So take that for what. I scorre you. Brandon marsh

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Speaker 1: obviously as well. So there are some outfielders out there, everybody.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where we want to start. Guys can

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Speaker 1: just jump in wherever. Some of the names that come

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Speaker 1: to mind. Cody Bellinger, well, let's start. Kyle Tucker is

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Speaker 1: the big the big fish. You've got Cody Bellinger. You know,

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Speaker 1: they got Ramon La Ramon and Loreano. He's got a

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Speaker 1: six and a half million dollar club option. I think

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Speaker 1: the Potters are going to pick that up. You know,

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Speaker 1: jim Is Jimmy liked him at the trade deadline. But

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Speaker 1: any outfields out there, Tucker Bellinger that would fit if

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Speaker 1: Sarber doesn't come back, or would fit otherwise, and you

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Speaker 1: kind of like.

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Speaker 4: Maybe some under the radar guys.

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Speaker 3: I need they need a right handed bat, especially if

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Speaker 3: they're going to have both Marsh and Crawford on this

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Speaker 3: ball club. Now I'm talking Marsh probably right field, Crawford

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Speaker 3: and left or Crawford in center. You know, we talked

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Speaker 3: a little bit about Harrison Bader. I think we really

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Speaker 3: need a right handed bat, and I think there's a

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Speaker 3: couple of, you know, maybe under the radar type right

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Speaker 3: handed bats. I think the Loreano one is a big one.

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Speaker 4: Bader obviously would be helpful.

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Speaker 3: But there's some other right handed bats that that could

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Speaker 3: be of interest as well, would.

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Speaker 2: You Jared Durant, No, he's a trade possibility.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What about Rob Rethschneider. If you're talking about an under

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Speaker 1: the radar platoon type guy, he crushes Anders.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he sure does. Interesting name. I mean, listen that

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Speaker 4: that protects him.

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Speaker 3: That protects the guy like Crawford, because against a tough

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Speaker 3: left hander, if you don't want to get him, you know,

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Speaker 3: leave him out there hanging against the tough lefties and

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Speaker 3: sort of ease him into an everyday position, you know,

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Speaker 3: Refsnider I think did Refsider play with Dave Nebrawski at

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Speaker 3: the Boston I don't think so, but I know he's

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Speaker 3: aware of him.

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Speaker 4: Just an interesting guy.

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Speaker 3: He's been around a while. But you know, again, right

607
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Speaker 3: handed bats are sort of tough to find. Somebody who

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Speaker 3: can do and has been that platoon person. It's a

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Speaker 3: it's an interesting skill set and also probably.

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Speaker 2: Something they need, definitely something they need. Yeah, and they

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Speaker 2: might have more success right handed bat if it's not batter.

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Speaker 2: They might have more success with some trade guys, which

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Speaker 2: we're going to get into later in the week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean West and Wilson. Don't don't reel out

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Speaker 4: West and Wilson. I know, you know, he's he's a young.

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Speaker 3: Major league player, but he's got some you know, age

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Speaker 3: on him. He's sort of done that job now a

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Speaker 3: little bit. He's athletic, he can play a couple of

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Speaker 3: different places. I think he needs to shore up his

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Speaker 3: outfield play.

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Speaker 4: Just in general. He's athletic.

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Speaker 3: But I mean he's still an option, and they may

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Speaker 3: think that he is the option.

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Speaker 4: So just you know, somebody to kick in as well.

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Speaker 1: And he and West and Wilson will get every opportunity

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Speaker 1: because he is also out of options and cheap season

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Speaker 1: and cheap so you know they're gonna give him a

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Speaker 1: shot there. I'm just gonna mention him because he said

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Speaker 1: under the radar kind of like so I think of

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Speaker 1: one year deal guy. Austin Hayes is a free agent

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Speaker 1: again if they wanted to go back to that, he crushes.

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Speaker 4: I love, I love, I love when they got him.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was a great move.

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Speaker 3: Didn't turn out well because he got hurt, didn't play

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Speaker 3: a lot, got sick. I mean, like almost deathly sick

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Speaker 3: at one point in Toronto.

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Speaker 4: When we went up there a couple of years back.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, this guy, he he showed the world

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Speaker 3: why that was a pretty good move with the work

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Speaker 3: did he did with Cincinnati this year.

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Speaker 4: Veteran guy likes to play hard nose. I like him.

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Speaker 2: I was speaking with Francona when they were in here,

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Speaker 2: and he loved him. How hard he played, how he

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Speaker 2: posted leadership clubhouse. All of the above sounded like he

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Speaker 2: was a real character player for that team. He just

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Speaker 2: never got off the ground in Philadelphia because of the

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00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: injury and the ildness.

650
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, he betted three to nineteen this season with an

651
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: nine oh ps against lefties. So I mean good that.

652
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: That's pretty good if you if if that's the type

653
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: of guy you can get and you think that's the

654
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: type of guy you need to maybe help out round

655
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: out that outfield situation. So okay, so let's move on

656
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: to starting. Let's move on to the pitching staff. Starting pitchers.

657
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: There's I mean, there's some good guys out there, but

658
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: if they're not going to bring back, have you guys

659
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: changed your opinion on Rangers' chances of resigning with the

660
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: Phillies or do you still think that that's a long shot.

661
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: Did still think that's a long shot?

662
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's impossible.

663
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: Thirty I think it's I think it's probably less than

664
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: thirty percent. Uh, you know, unless you know, yeah, less

665
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: something crazy happens. I just I just I just don't

666
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: see him coming back. I think Scott Morris is his agent,

667
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: and he's gonna he's gonna pitch him as one of

668
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: the best, if not the best free agent pitcher on

669
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: the market, and he's gonna say, listen, you know, yeah, okay,

670
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: he has he hasn't pitched thirty three, made thirty three.

671
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: He starts in the season, but when he's healthy and

672
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: if he manages innings like the Dodgers did it with

673
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: all their guys, you know, this guy is literally one

674
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: of the greatest postseason performers in baseball history by based

675
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: off of era. Do you want that guy? He's going

676
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: to say to those teams, do you want to win

677
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: a World Series? Then you want Ranger Suarez at one

678
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty innings in twenty twenty six and pitching

679
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: his you know, butt off in the postseason. So I

680
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: think he took us just took us off. It took

681
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: us off.

682
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: The only way I see it is we've talked about

683
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 2: this is a pillow contract, and we won't know that

684
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: until you know, early February, and then the Phillies would

685
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: have to have a meeting to decide if they want

686
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 2: to push their payroll up, because at that point they're

687
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: already going to have, you know, their big free agent

688
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: move on, be it schwar or somebody else, be a

689
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 2: Schwarver in real mudo and somebody else.

690
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: So here's the thing I think, and this sort of

691
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 3: sounds counter intuitive, but the fact that you have pretty

692
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: good news or what we feel is going to be

693
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: pretty good news on Zach Wheeler sort of hurts the

694
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: chances of having of having Ranger back because now you're

695
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: looking at five pitchers, basically six pictures. I know you

696
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 3: want to have more depth, but you're looking at Wheeler, Lozardo, Sanchez, Nola,

697
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 3: you still have Taiwan Walker, and you got mister Andrew Painter.

698
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 3: So that's six guys right there.

699
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: Still would love a little more veteran depth.

700
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: No doubt, would love to have a veteran dev or

701
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: swing guy or someone like that. Certainly one of the

702
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 3: reasons why they did what they did with Joe Ross.

703
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: But you know, a Joe Ross plus someone who's going

704
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 3: to you know, be able to help them have a

705
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 3: little depth there.

706
00:38:59,440 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

707
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: See, I mean a lot of the guys at the

708
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: top the list again, so if you're not gonna get Ranger,

709
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: you're not. You're probably out on Dylan Cees, Franbervaldez. Then

710
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: after that, you know, Freddy Prawl to get traded. We'll

711
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: talk about him later.

712
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 4: In the week.

713
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 1: One maybe swing guy ish uh Nick Martinez from the Reds.

714
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 4: The first guy thought that was Nick Martinez.

715
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: There you go. So he made twenty six starts this

716
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: season for the Reds, forty appearances overall, so fourteen relief appearances.

717
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: He had a four four five ERA overall, but a

718
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: two six to one EARRA as a reliever. He's he's

719
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: very effective pitching out of the bullpen. So that's a

720
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: guy that you know, he maybe assign him and you're

721
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: throwing some incentives, right, you could do that Rubin. You know,

722
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: you make ten starts, you get an extra one hundred

723
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: grand or whatever whatever it probably.

724
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that. I like it. I like the idea.

725
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: It was a chan ho Park sort of thought process.

726
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 3: H And you know, he's got a lot of weapons,

727
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: maybe too many weapons. Sometimes I think he's going to

728
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 3: like six or seven different pitches.

729
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 4: But he's got pretty good stuff. And he's been there

730
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 4: and done it. And you know, you pitch in Cincinnati

731
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 4: and you sort of wonder, you know.

732
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 3: Those numbers elevated because that's a tough, tough place to.

733
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 4: Pitch man the ball. If the ball does.

734
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: Fly there, it's an airport, and uh, you wonder if

735
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: he's pitching somewhere else where his numbers a little bit better.

736
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 3: I know, Citizens Bank Park's a nice place to hit,

737
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 3: but not like Cincinnati.

738
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 4: So interesting name.

739
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some other names out there. I mean, you know,

740
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: I don't know these days to really qualify a swing guys,

741
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: but you start going lower on the list, you have

742
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: the Chris Bassett's, the Zach Efflin's, you know, guys like that.

743
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: With Justin Verlander or Max Sures, is there any pathway

744
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: to them joining this squad next year? Jim, you mentioned

745
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: something I remember last I remember you mentioned something. Was

746
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: it in spring training or was.

747
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: It sure was a close as a closer.

748
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: Or as Yeah, I mean that probably doesn't happen now

749
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: with Deran, but.

750
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 4: It doesn't have the stuff. Now, Yeah, I have predumption.

751
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: I just think this team is just getting so old.

752
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: I can't do that at this point. But sure's are

753
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 2: a year ago, you know, at five million bucks, I

754
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 2: would have looked at him as a closer type.

755
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 3: But anybody else has impressed by Bassett's effort out of

756
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 3: the bullpen as I was.

757
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 4: I mean, he did love. You know, he's a tough guy.

758
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 3: He's I mean, listen, he's a I think he's gonna

759
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: be looking for a starting job somewhere, no doubt, But

760
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 3: the fact that he can do both, I mean, embarrassment

761
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 3: of riches.

762
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 4: Shit, I'd love to have a guy.

763
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 3: I'll take him and do sort of what the Dodgers did,

764
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 3: stockpile all those starters and see who's who can go,

765
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: and you know, sort of ease everybody through the season,

766
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 3: and then in October, let him all fly and the

767
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: bullpen or whatever mix and match.

768
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 4: Help them win a World Series.

769
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we've talked about that name. Todd. I just Chris Passt.

770
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: I just he might be looking for more of a

771
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: prominent role with the team, but certainly, boy, he would

772
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: be a nice piece to get here if he'd be

773
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: open to being a swingman back end type, but I

774
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: think he's gonna look for more of a prominent role

775
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: with the team.

776
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did, but I feel like you're right, guys,

777
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: the Phillies definitely have to look for that Nick Martinez

778
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: chanho parkish type of swing guy.

779
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: Just so about what about e Flin. Do you think

780
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 2: they were seeing it off with the with the injuries

781
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 2: and he's coming off, the health.

782
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 4: The health on his knees and the health of them

783
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 4: just in general. Maybe a concern. Nothing about the personality.

784
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: And the and the uh oh yeah, and the makeup

785
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 3: is you know, I'm sure they'd love to have that.

786
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 2: But he had back surgery late summer. He's supposed to

787
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: be one hundred percent by spring training.

788
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 4: Back knee interesting. I love the guy, but I just

789
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 4: don't you have to.

790
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 3: You have to hope that your medical people know what

791
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 3: they're doing and it can evaluate him well enough and

792
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 3: if they feel.

793
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: Comfortable with him. That's one thing I will say this.

794
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: I would bank on our medical people to handle it

795
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 3: because they've done a hell of a job this season

796
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: and I think that they really helped their team have

797
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 3: the kind of success that they've had, even though they

798
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,479
Speaker 3: haven't won the World Series, they've done a pre tamned

799
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: good job of.

800
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 4: Keeping it's on the field.

801
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: Martin, think about it. I don't know if they would

802
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: do that because of their medical people. They know, they

803
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 2: know Efflyn well, and they already backed off him once

804
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: when he became a free agent a few years ago

805
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: after twenty two, backed off because of reasons of durability

806
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 2: and health track record. So I'm not sure three years

807
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: later that they would do that. But it's a very

808
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 2: very interesting name that he'd be that type of guy,

809
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: swing man.

810
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: Gotta have that finish up here.

811
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 4: He'd love to be back with the boy. Aaron Nola.

812
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, really good.

813
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: Yes they are. They're very very tight for sure. Okay,

814
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: so let's finish up with the bullpen. So you got

815
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: Joan d Ron as the closer. You have Matt Strom,

816
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: you have Jose Alvarado almost certainly going to be back

817
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: based off of what Dave dem Browski said. You have

818
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: a Ryan Kirkring, you know who I am missing. Tanner

819
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: Banks is back there, but they could probably use another arm.

820
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: You can always use another bullpen, another two, especially when

821
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: you kind of bullpen play out again. You watch the

822
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: bullpen play out this off this postseason again, it was

823
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: kind of like a god, can they go? How did

824
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: they get from the starter straight to Doran right now?

825
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: Or Strong to Deran Strom was pretty decent. But some

826
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: of the relief pitchers that are out there. Robert Suarez,

827
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: he can opt out. He's got two years left on

828
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: a forty six million dollar deal. But I would think

829
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: if Robert Suarez does that, he's going to want to

830
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: close somewhere. You have Ryce Ella, Gladstias had a nice

831
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: season in Atlanta. He's thirty, he'll be thirty six next year.

832
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna throw out a few more names

833
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: that kind of interesting if you like bounce back guys.

834
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: They tried that with Jordan Romano last year and it

835
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: did not work. Ryan Helsley last offseason and be like,

836
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: oh yeah, maybe they traded for Ryan Helsley man. He

837
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: was terrible with the Mets, the seven to zero area

838
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: with the Mets. Devin Williams mister change up. He was

839
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: not good for the Yankees. He had an e array

840
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: of four to seven nine. So you have some of those,

841
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: Any of those guys interest you before we get to

842
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: a couple other names.

843
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: I wanted to mention Helsley would interest me, and.

844
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: Devin Williams would interest me too, just for a different look.

845
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: I mean, you're looking at a different right handed arm

846
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 3: with that change up. Maybe he needs to just get

847
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: out of New York. That might have been part of it.

848
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 3: But I would think that Caleb Coffin would say, I

849
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: can I could probably do something with Devin Williams or

850
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: Ryan Helsley.

851
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 4: Maybe I can straighten help straighten them out.

852
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned a different look, Rubin, and I think

853
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: there's one guy on this list that gives you the

854
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: most different of the different looks, and that is Tyler Rogers.

855
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I.

856
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: Had sign me up for Tyler. Give me some Tyler Rogers,

857
00:46:54,680 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: so I am in. Yes, he was fantastic one ERA

858
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: this season, two seven one ERA the last four seasons.

859
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: And you say different look. Obviously he's a submariner. I

860
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: went on statcast earlier today and I looked this up.

861
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: His release point is one point averages one point three

862
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: feet off the ground. Off the ground. The next closest

863
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: pitcher in Major League Baseball is Tim Hill at just

864
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: over three feet off the ground. So this guy is

865
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Speaker 1: one point seven feet lower than Tim Hill, the lowest

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Speaker 1: Phillies release point. Just to put it, kind of put

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Speaker 1: this number into perspective, is Aaron Nola at five point

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Speaker 1: zero five? Of course, I mean Kyle Rodgers is off

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Speaker 1: the ground. That's the guy I would love to have.

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Speaker 3: The Phillies sort of tent kent to call the Ish

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Speaker 3: and dan Quisonberry.

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Speaker 4: Scool Chad Bradford Chad Bradford esque.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the idea that gives you a whole

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Speaker 3: different sort of look. And they may target a guy

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Speaker 3: like that. They may say that he might get a

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Speaker 3: phone call on the very first day. He might have

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Speaker 3: already gotten a phone call.

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Speaker 4: These guys declared, yet they don't have to.

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Speaker 1: It's automatic now. So the day after the World Series,

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Speaker 1: everybody is eligible to be a free agent, is a

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Speaker 1: free agent, so they may they may.

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Speaker 4: Have already gotten called.

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Speaker 2: And Reuben, come on, come clean. You guys break the

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Speaker 2: rules anywhere you're calling the world.

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Speaker 4: In my life, Jim, I'm a rule follower.

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Speaker 2: They're calling during the World Series. Hey, I know you're

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Speaker 2: gonna be declaring after the World Series. I just wanted

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Speaker 2: to tell you this one whisper some sweet nothings in.

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Speaker 1: Your ear rule follower, My god. But there's Tyler Rogers. Interesting.

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Speaker 1: Kenley Janssen is out there.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know, he had a decent year with the twenty

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Speaker 1: nine saves. He'll be thirty eight eight next year. Too old,

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Speaker 1: too old.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I like veteran bullpen guys, but I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Man, let's m I'll take Rogers over over him, just

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Speaker 4: for just for perception one. But also I'd like to

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Speaker 4: have a guy that the risk of him getting hurt

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Speaker 4: as much lower.

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Speaker 3: And and those submariners they don't get hurt very often

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Speaker 3: because they don't have to work over the axis.

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Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, I like some interesting names out Jim.

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Speaker 2: I like that drop some access on us anatomy one

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Speaker 2: on one.

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Speaker 4: You know you're didn't I think it didn't. I didn't,

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Speaker 4: I do it.

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Speaker 1: I love it. So yeah, then there's I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: think of some other relievers. The rest of the list is.

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Speaker 1: You know, you got your Kirby Yates, your philm main

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Speaker 1: toon Pete Fairbanks. He's got a seven million dollar club option.

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Speaker 1: He could be a trade candidate. Maybe we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: him later this week, and then you know, there's obviously

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Speaker 1: there's like eight thousand relief pictures. So if you're listening

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Speaker 1: and watching, if you had have any thoughts, if there's

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Speaker 1: any guys that you think we missed you want us

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Speaker 1: to discuss, shoot us a note in the comments section

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Speaker 1: on YouTube or on our various social media channels, and guys,

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Speaker 1: we will be back on Wednesday to talk about some

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Speaker 1: trade possibilities that we think that Philly should be interested in.

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Speaker 4: Or.

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Speaker 1: Or hot stoven. We're setting up the off season, the

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Speaker 1: hot stove set up. We're just getting the frying pans

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Speaker 1: out right now, you know, we.

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Speaker 2: Get the free agents you got me pumped up about.

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Speaker 2: I'm pumped up about Peter Alonzo and Bobasht and Ryan Helsley.

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Speaker 2: So just get heavy flow, heavy flow on those guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean Boba Schett, Ryan Helsley, Tyler Rogers. Would that

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be a bad free agent hall.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: Dan's just got to give John Middleton a call and say,

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Speaker 1: just you need a little bit more glue.

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Speaker 11: I can get I can get this, I can push

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Speaker 11: it across the finish line. Anyway, We'll be back on Wednesday.

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