WEBVTT - Ep. 17 — Stay Mad, Abby

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<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, well, thank you so much for your patience.

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<v Speaker 1>We're really really really really sorry. Well I especially am

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<v Speaker 1>sorry since it's my job to edit the podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>I screwed up.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're back. We're back. I know so many of

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, you guys have hit us up like so

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<v Speaker 2>when is BA coming back?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, we're back. We're really glad that you

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<v Speaker 1>love the show. Bud, Please don't hate us too much

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<v Speaker 1>for putting it up late. Just look at this way.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a nice little Friday treat exactly. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>kick off this show. I saw something crazy today that

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<v Speaker 1>I had to talk. I'm kind of glad that we

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<v Speaker 1>had a couple of days, like we had this delay

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<v Speaker 1>because now we can talk about this craziness. There's this

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<v Speaker 1>article on PopSugar dot com, like this kind of thing

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment blog, and they compare Kylie Jenner, who has not

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<v Speaker 1>one drop of Latin in her to The headline was like,

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<v Speaker 1>Kylie Jenner is basically every a mix of all your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite Latina celebrities, and like there was ay. They basically

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<v Speaker 1>just took like screen like screenshots of her Instagram account

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<v Speaker 1>where she takes pictures of like Here's Kyllie Jenner showing

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<v Speaker 1>off her naked butt. Isn't she like j Lo? Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Kellie Jenner wearing like a throwback eighties outfit? Isn't she

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<v Speaker 1>like Selena? Let me tell you, like you think black

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter is bad? Like Hispanic Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>After them? Yes, as they should. That's so funny. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even know there was Hispanic Twitter. But that's why

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<v Speaker 2>I get them.

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<v Speaker 1>They exist. This is a thing, like, I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is this came the same week? Was it one more?

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<v Speaker 1>The Golden Globes announced? Was that last week or this week?

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<v Speaker 1>I forget, It's been a long week. But during the

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Globes, my my like celebrity crush America for yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>She So she was announcing the nominations on camera, and

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<v Speaker 1>some people, some media outlets, some major ones were tweeting like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh look, it's Gina Rodriguez announcing the Golden Globes. Gina

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<v Speaker 1>Rodriguez is a whole different person, yes, but another Latina,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess they were just mixing them up, which

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<v Speaker 1>is just like embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>It is very that is always very embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even apologize on their behalf because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know like how they just all look alike. There's only

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<v Speaker 1>like one or two, so you got fifty to fift

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<v Speaker 1>chances of getting them right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how they feel. I'm just reading some of the

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<v Speaker 2>tweets right now. I'm like, ooh, they're like, uh, Kylie Jenner.

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<v Speaker 2>Comparing Kylie Jenner to a strong, beautiful, natural Latina is

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<v Speaker 2>a bit insulting thumbs down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's just sort of like some people are saying,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just more about cultural another example of cultural appropriation,

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<v Speaker 1>Like just because she got button plants and she has

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<v Speaker 1>big old' lip injections, and she has like these stereotypical

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<v Speaker 1>Latina or even black features that now now claim but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she's not claiming it. It's not like Kylie

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<v Speaker 1>Jenner said that she's like a Latina. It's really pop

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<v Speaker 1>Sugars situation. Yeah, And so I took that mess down

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Real quick, because they're like, uh, you know, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>thing I kind of like about social media these days.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a good thing and a bad thing. But

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<v Speaker 2>that like when something is not right, that people can

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<v Speaker 2>hold you to task, because before it used to be

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<v Speaker 2>like whatever, you can't do anything about it. Now people

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<v Speaker 2>are like, oh really, let me, let me get to

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<v Speaker 2>let me talk to Twitter real quick and see if

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<v Speaker 2>we can't make you guys realize you're wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my favorite way to get customer service now. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>like I've complained about airlines and m h even my

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<v Speaker 1>meal service that I use, like my plated a complain

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter and they're like, oh my god, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to you right away. It's so much faster than like

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<v Speaker 1>calling eight hundred years.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was at a when I was in Barbados

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<v Speaker 2>and so many of you guys hit me up like saying,

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<v Speaker 2>oh I heard you think gonna be in Barbados, Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>VA listeners. And so I flew Jet Blue, which I

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<v Speaker 2>actually really liked. I'm flown Jet Blue in a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it was like really roomy, loved it. I

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<v Speaker 2>had to check a bag which was twenty bucks if

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<v Speaker 2>you checked it online, which I did, and then when

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<v Speaker 2>I was in Barbados, I tried to check the bag

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<v Speaker 2>coming back. Couldn't do it online. I was like, no words,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do it the kiosk. Try to do it at

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<v Speaker 2>the kiosk. I literally hit up every single kiosk, and

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<v Speaker 2>because it costs more money, if you do it at

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<v Speaker 2>the death. So they all were not working. They kept freezing,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I went to the counter and was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>my bag. It won't let me, you know, check my bag.

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<v Speaker 2>And they still charged me the extra nine bucks and

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<v Speaker 2>I was pissed. So, Jet Blue, you have a tweet coming,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was just like, ah, but that's how I

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<v Speaker 2>get my customer service as well. I'm like, let me

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<v Speaker 2>send a quick little tweet like uh, Jet Blue. So

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<v Speaker 2>I like how that is.

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<v Speaker 1>A pro tip. Definitely complain on social media. Yes, well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's something that no one's complaining about. Averdi Verne's Barbidol. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>sold out in like lickety split seconds. Yes, isn't that amazing?

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<v Speaker 1>You imagine I've never I can't imagine any other brown

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<v Speaker 1>Barbie Dolls ever sold out like that. To have it

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<v Speaker 1>be a director and not like a model, not a

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<v Speaker 1>Tyra Banks or nothing against Tyra.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I know what you meaning. Like, she's known

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<v Speaker 2>although Ama Duvine is beautiful, that's not what she's known for.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not why she's celebrated. She's celebrated because of her

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<v Speaker 2>craft and her skill. And you know, you know, no

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<v Speaker 2>knock against beautiful women. Obviously that's awesome, but it's just that, like, wow, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this woman is being celebrated and you can look up

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<v Speaker 2>to her because she's this self taught director, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, well, young girls need to know that

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<v Speaker 1>you can be beautiful, but that's not all you have

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<v Speaker 1>to offer. And if you're not traditionally or whatever just

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<v Speaker 1>the way that you know, mainstream media what they consider

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<v Speaker 1>to be beautiful, then you can look at this Barbie

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<v Speaker 1>and say, well, that's not all that any woman has

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<v Speaker 1>to offer, and the exact talent and you know, imagination

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<v Speaker 1>and skill that you can offer. I thought it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>She actually did like one of my one of my

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<v Speaker 2>motivational videos. It's her speaking I think like too. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it was a school of but it

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<v Speaker 2>was directors, like young directors, up and coming directors, and

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<v Speaker 2>she talks about something called like her smelly coat, and

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<v Speaker 2>really she just says that, like you know, when you're

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<v Speaker 2>really really desperate. So yes, she definitely calls it the

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<v Speaker 2>smelly coat. And her talk is called take that smelly

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<v Speaker 2>coat off of take that smelly coat of desperation off.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just such a dope it's just such a dope. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just such a dope, dope, just like talk that

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<v Speaker 2>she's done. And what I like most about it is

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<v Speaker 2>she talks about how when she first started out, she

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of reaching out to everyone and like begging

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<v Speaker 2>everyone to help, and it was like wearing this stinky,

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<v Speaker 2>smelly coat, and it offended people that people don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to help you if you're not willing to help yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>And once she took off that code of desperation and

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<v Speaker 2>decided to do it anyway, then that's when people are

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<v Speaker 2>coming to her and she started attracting like the things

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<v Speaker 2>that she wanted. So if you get a chance you

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<v Speaker 2>need a little like motivation, google Ava Duverne smelly coat

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<v Speaker 2>and watch it's like maybe like ten minutes watch this talk.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like fake it till you make it. Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 1>even if you're nervous, or even if you are desperate,

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to walk in like you already got

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<v Speaker 1>the job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or at the very least, just just do it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one thing. We live in such an amazing age

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<v Speaker 2>and that like you might say, oh, I really want

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<v Speaker 2>to be on TV. No one wants to put you

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<v Speaker 2>on TV. Hello, YouTube is free? Or I really want

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<v Speaker 2>to be a writer, but you can't get into a

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<v Speaker 2>magazine start a blog. So it's like there are micro

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<v Speaker 2>ways that you can do macro things, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, if you do such a good job,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes what happens is you draw such an audience that

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<v Speaker 2>those those larger outlets that you want to be a

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<v Speaker 2>part of start coming to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, ma'am. Well, if you want to start a podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>just do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, do it. Google your way through like Mandy exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, oh you know what we need to talk about?

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<v Speaker 1>Hashtag stay mad Abby.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh yeah, this one gave me such a giggle.

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<v Speaker 1>I love brown people. They're so clever they are. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do the recap. So basically this is about the Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court case. Abigail Fisher is a white college student from

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<v Speaker 1>Texas who's suing the University of Texas overclaims that she

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<v Speaker 1>was denied admission to the school based on the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that she's not white. And she's referring to this program

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<v Speaker 1>called top ten where ut for ten percent of I

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<v Speaker 1>forget how exactly how it works, but like for ten

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<v Speaker 1>percent of new admissions, they factor in race as one

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<v Speaker 1>of the factors of admission. So she's sue them, like

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<v Speaker 1>seven years ago in this court case is now in

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<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court, and it's been hilarious people's reaction on

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<v Speaker 1>social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and so people have been sharing like brown folks

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<v Speaker 2>have been sharing themselves in their capping gown or like

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<v Speaker 2>lifting all of their amazing degrees and hashtags stay mad, Abby,

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<v Speaker 2>which has been hilarious. One of my favorites is like

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<v Speaker 2>this young girl leaning over a banister in her in

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<v Speaker 2>her gown from graduation, and she says, and I guess

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<v Speaker 2>this is she's actually attending or graduated from the same

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<v Speaker 2>school that Abby wanted to get into. And she references

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<v Speaker 2>this Chris Brown look at Me Now on song where

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<v Speaker 2>he says, how y'all so mad? You can't even get

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<v Speaker 2>into the club? You're still outside? And so that's the song.

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<v Speaker 2>So she says like under the caption, how you mad,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can't even get into the university? You still outside?

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<v Speaker 2>And it just had me giggling. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>look at me now, Abby.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know it's truly insane though, is the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that someone points it out and earth because this has

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<v Speaker 1>been through many lower courts already and somebody found out

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<v Speaker 1>that her SAT scores and her GPA, even if she

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<v Speaker 1>had been black, she wouldn't have gotten into the school.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is are we discussing this at the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>level and it's given away to so much other crap,

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<v Speaker 1>Like Justice antonin Scalia said some really stupid stuff. He

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<v Speaker 1>was and somehow on the in the first day of

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<v Speaker 1>oral arguments, which was last week, he was responding to

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<v Speaker 1>the to Abby's attorney or I forget which attorney he

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<v Speaker 1>was responding to, but he basically said, in a nutshell,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, wouldn't it be better in some cases if

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<v Speaker 1>you know black kids went to lesser schools so that

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't feel so challenged by the material and that

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<v Speaker 1>they you know, wouldn't be so intimidated. I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>was weren't his exact words, but that was a sentiment

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<v Speaker 1>behind it. Yeah, just like such, I'm like, great, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a Supreme Court justice, Supreme Court justice who, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, has their job for eternity.

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<v Speaker 2>For eternity, so let's hope eternity comes quick.

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<v Speaker 1>For oh, so people are serving him up.

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<v Speaker 2>To Yeah, and it just makes you just so like wow,

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<v Speaker 2>this is supposed to be the unbiased law of the land,

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<v Speaker 2>the voice of like law in our country, and this

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<v Speaker 2>guy's was saying that, like, people of color can't possibly

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<v Speaker 2>keep up at ut at these Ivy League schools, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's just don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't expect anything out of them. Just yeah, they'll never

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<v Speaker 1>keep up. This is what I'm talk about when we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about like when people when when black people brown

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<v Speaker 1>people talk about having to work twice as hard to

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<v Speaker 1>prove themselves. Like this is what we're talking about. Because

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<v Speaker 1>someone's thinking you only got that job because you're black

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<v Speaker 1>and Bush, or someone's thinking, like if you you probably

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<v Speaker 1>can't even keep up with this, Like we have low

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<v Speaker 1>expectations of what you're capable of, you know when you

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<v Speaker 1>walk in a room.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then add on top of that, being a

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<v Speaker 2>woman in life is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever. Some of the smartest people I went to h

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<v Speaker 1>I went to UGA University of Georgia down south, Like, hey, bulldogs,

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<v Speaker 1>seven percent I think seven percent or less Black students,

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<v Speaker 1>but like the smartest people on campus for the black women,

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<v Speaker 1>I swear to God, and they're like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>one black student from UGA who was not off doing

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<v Speaker 1>They made some things right now, I don't know one.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of one. And it was a small

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<v Speaker 1>it was a small world. I knew them all. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't knew each other, of course. So moving on.

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<v Speaker 2>Right from buzzworthy, I hope you guys are buzzing with both.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have any buzzer things and you're like, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear your opinion, then please, please please. You

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<v Speaker 2>can tweet us at the BA podcast, go to Brown

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<v Speaker 2>Ambition on Facebook, and you can email us.

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<v Speaker 1>At Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Boom.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope I got that right, I think so.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is now time for Brown Break.

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<v Speaker 1>The best time of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't we have like somebody special did something special for us?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we have a little oh yeah, one of

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners, Oh now I'm going to forget her name.

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<v Speaker 1>I had it up and now I forgot it. One

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<v Speaker 1>of our listeners came up with a little jingle like

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<v Speaker 1>a little Brown Break song, and I want to play

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<v Speaker 1>it for you guys. It's super sweet. Okay, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>here it is. This This jingle is from Quinn. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to send her last name or say her

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<v Speaker 1>last name, just in case she doesn't want me putting

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<v Speaker 1>her on blasts like that. But thank you so much, Quinn.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's her little jingle.

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<v Speaker 4>I need a brown break, baby, All I need is

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<v Speaker 4>a brown break.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't that cute?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Quinn, you got a great voice. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love for people to send in some brown ambition,

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<v Speaker 2>not brown ambisson, brown break jingles, because you know we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the best voices. Although you can't tell me that. No.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my friends is like, can you guys stop singing?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually like, oh hate her.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do the jersey clap first of all.

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<v Speaker 1>She is. But you know, your friends always tell you

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<v Speaker 1>the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. But I mean, you know, a little song

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<v Speaker 2>here and there. I mean I could see maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>won't have a full out musical like we did that

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<v Speaker 2>last song. I'm doing our last podcast. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I like a little jig here and there.

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<v Speaker 1>But even if you can't sing, just send us some

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a brown break that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>take enough to share them on air. We've gotten some

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<v Speaker 1>quirky ones. Some people want to take a break from millennials.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh that I take offense too.

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<v Speaker 2>That's actually my brown break.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, let's go right into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So my brown break is not I'm not taking

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<v Speaker 2>a break from millennials the individuals. I'm taking a break

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<v Speaker 2>from the word millennials. So, for those of you who

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<v Speaker 2>are unaware, millennials are like the new boomers. They're born

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<v Speaker 2>between the ages of nineteen eighty three and the year

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and one, and I don't know, just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just so annoying. Everything is millennials, millennials, millennials, millennial.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like nobody wants to advertise or speak to or

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<v Speaker 2>reach out to any other age group. The millennials are

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<v Speaker 2>just like the only thing people are talking about. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sick of it. Am I hating? Yes? I am,

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<v Speaker 2>because I go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always this obsession with the younger generation to like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what do they want? What kind of geans are they wearing?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are they shopping? They're like, they don't even have

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<v Speaker 1>the money to spend in your store like their parents

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<v Speaker 1>or I mean whatever. Like older millennials, obviously we have

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<v Speaker 1>money and we were like professionals. But I'm like, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there's no reason why you shouldn't be targeting like the

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<v Speaker 1>Gen x's. You're not absolute yet Tiff, You're still relevant.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, well, you know, I just it's important.

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<v Speaker 2>I just missed the millennial mark off by not too much,

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<v Speaker 2>but still, I'm just you know, it is. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just so sick of like people acting like there's

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<v Speaker 2>no other like demographic population, that this is like the

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<v Speaker 2>it population, and then like in ten years it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>the new whatever they'll call the babies babies below you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'm just so sick of that word millennial.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm willing and able to take a brown break

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<v Speaker 2>from that word. I don't want to hear it. Just gonnakay.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna call you guys. Hey, you well, that

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<v Speaker 2>was a gen Z. What's who's gen Z? That's below?

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<v Speaker 1>And gen Z is like my little brother, he's nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety two. I think it's like the nineties babies. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're gonna call them. I met someone who

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<v Speaker 1>was born in ninety eight and they're like a teenager,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, happening.

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<v Speaker 2>What in ninety eight I was like graduating high school?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, well I was still young.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, we can get on the side. I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I feel that way though, I want.

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<v Speaker 2>To welcome you with Ben Gay. I'm gonna welcome you

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<v Speaker 2>with mom jeans.

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<v Speaker 1>I already wear and use those items, do you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what? I had my first experience, not my first,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I was thinking, you know, they're making a new,

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<v Speaker 1>a new dirty dancing remake are with Abigail Breslin. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be on TV. I think ABC Family or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But I'm like, it pains me to think

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<v Speaker 1>that some young women, some young girls out there, that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be their first dirty dancing. Yeah, they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to know. Patrick Swayze and Jennifer was.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like the best movie ever.

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<v Speaker 1>It still is so bad yet so good.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, has it has anybody called you.

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<v Speaker 1>Ma'am yet ma'am? Well, I'm from the South, so okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, like the first time that happened,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, who are they talking to?

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<v Speaker 1>Not me?

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<v Speaker 2>Were like when someone says like, oh no, ask the lady.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember the first time that happened, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>in my.

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<v Speaker 1>Life, ask the lady.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, And that was like the lady, who's that?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the lady. I'm a girl all the buzzwords of

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<v Speaker 2>getting older.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a ballad brown break.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So what about you? What are you breaking from? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm gonna do. I want to do this

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<v Speaker 1>in a diplomatic way, as I like to do all

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<v Speaker 1>things as pissing off as few people as possible. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I've only been engaged for a couple of weeks and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying. I'm cool about it. It's cool. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's awesome. Love is real, marriage is great. But what

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't expect is people. What I was afraid of

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<v Speaker 1>is people being like so enthusiastic and like dragging me

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<v Speaker 1>in the hallways and like, you know, making a big scene.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm kind of shy when it comes to this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. But in some cases, what I've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>is people like dumping their baggage on me, like their

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<v Speaker 1>marriage and like wedding baggage on me. Like I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>people tell me, you know, complain about, oh, when you

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<v Speaker 1>get married, such and such happens, You're like anymore, like like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very expensive, you know, don't spend so much in

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<v Speaker 1>the wedding. It's really expensive and you've only got like

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<v Speaker 1>a half and half chance anyway, whoa like actual and

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<v Speaker 1>then one person when I told I was engaged, one

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<v Speaker 1>person I actually was excited to tell her. The first

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<v Speaker 1>thing she said was why now, like because he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to marry me.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's been a yeah I mean and not letting

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<v Speaker 1>it get to me. But I just I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's making me even more cognizant of how because I

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<v Speaker 1>think in New York especially, it's like, you know, women,

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<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to be all about your career and you

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<v Speaker 1>come here to really further yourself, you know, on a

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<v Speaker 1>personal level, and then like relationships are great, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>not like, you know, no one's coming here to get

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<v Speaker 1>their mrs degree, you know what I mean. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the initial reaction is always like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>someone else is getting engaged, Like marriage is so lame anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not gonna lie. I've rolled my eye that

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<v Speaker 1>you know that the all the engagement posts and like

0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:06.920
<v Speaker 1>awkward engagement photos people post on Facebook. But it's made

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<v Speaker 1>me realize that, like, you should be more careful of

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<v Speaker 1>your words around someone who's you know, making this huge

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<v Speaker 1>like leap or this huge change.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, because they're excited and now she should be.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a beautiful, amazing thing. And I feel like sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the negativity like screams louder than the positivity

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<v Speaker 2>because like you know, because I like, I know so

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<v Speaker 2>many people who are in great relationships, but it's like

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<v Speaker 2>they don't talk about it much unless you know them

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<v Speaker 2>really personally. But people who are not, those are the

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<v Speaker 2>ones that you hear all the time and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>is that it is? That's how it's going to be now,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, two people decide for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>The best thing I did as I got older, like

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<v Speaker 1>in relationships, is stop asking my friends for advice on

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<v Speaker 1>every little thing that my partner did, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like he said this, but what does that mean? No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just like more an nooise that you don't need. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you just got to tune out because at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, it's you and that person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's so important to keep Like one of my

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<v Speaker 2>best friends, she's got a great relationship, and honestly, I

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<v Speaker 2>can count on one hand that anytime that we've discussed

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<v Speaker 2>like him and honestly, and even then it's been like

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<v Speaker 2>very light. And so I've just learned from her that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, keep it that way. They're so great together.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they begin it forever. Whenever I see them,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, wow, it's like they just started dating. They're

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<v Speaker 2>just like fun together, they laugh. I mean they've been

0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:28.520
<v Speaker 2>together far ever, and I'm just like, wow, there's still

0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.800
<v Speaker 2>such lightness here. And I know there had to have

0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:33.920
<v Speaker 2>been a lot of ups and downs, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>personally know because she's been very good at keeping that

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<v Speaker 2>until I've mimicked that with Superman, that like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to keep those things even with my close friends, to

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<v Speaker 2>myself because ultimately, what does my sister have to do

0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:48.919
<v Speaker 2>with what's happening, you know, with you know, unless like

0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:51.120
<v Speaker 2>you're an abusive relationship, then of course tell and ask

0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:53.240
<v Speaker 2>for help. But if you guys are just going through

0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:55.600
<v Speaker 2>normal relationship ups and downs and oh we had an

0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:57.199
<v Speaker 2>argument or I don't like the way he said that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I asked him if I look back, and he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't say no, right way, Like those are things you

0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:02.080
<v Speaker 2>can keep to yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus, don't you know, I was always that girlfriend who's like,

0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:09.400
<v Speaker 1>oh he showed up five minutes late, we hate him now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And then once you forgave him, Like, oh you forgave

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<v Speaker 1>him already. God, you're weak, Like I used to judge

0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:16.440
<v Speaker 1>people so harsh. I don't know why, so uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like definitely you don't want to because your

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<v Speaker 1>friends will always stand up, like if you know, good

0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.359
<v Speaker 1>friends will always like if you are upset at somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>they will be ten times once you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's hard for.

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<v Speaker 2>Them to get past that. And exactly, you don't want

0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:31.360
<v Speaker 2>your friends looking at your guy like, m we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>how long you last. I heard about you yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I really protect that, so I say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and plus listen, I come from a broken home many times,

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<v Speaker 1>like I have enough of my own hang ups about marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a huge accomplishment that I'm even like in

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<v Speaker 1>a space where I feel confident in getting married. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like, you don't know what someone's personal

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<v Speaker 1>story is when you, you know, lay your own baggage on them.

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<v Speaker 1>So Brown break for the marriage, hate us.

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<v Speaker 2>You millennial marriage. There's no more from you.

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<v Speaker 1>It hasn't it hasn't been millennials, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just are the ones you're excited.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to blend our brown breaks together. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, got it. Sorry, I'll ask you what you

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<v Speaker 1>did now. I caught up?

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<v Speaker 2>What about some some No, it's not time for winds.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time for tips, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for tips this week. So we had a

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<v Speaker 1>reader question and she really wanted to know her names Elena.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe Lena wants to know if we can recommend

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<v Speaker 1>books been essential or monumental to our careers. If you

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<v Speaker 1>can't choose one, could we start sharing a recommended book

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<v Speaker 1>for listeners at the end of each show.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually like that idea. Lena, You is smart, You

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<v Speaker 2>is intelligent, You is special.

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<v Speaker 1>People do read books?

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<v Speaker 2>See, Yeah, I know. And honestly, I like, look, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking at my Kindle right now. So I'm a Kindle snob.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like Kindle Fire. You might as well just get

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<v Speaker 2>another laptop. I like my Kindle What is it called

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<v Speaker 2>paper white?

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<v Speaker 1>You're a purist? Yeah, yeah, paper right too.

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<v Speaker 2>I am. I'm like, I just want my Kendle just

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<v Speaker 2>for reading. If I need all the other stuff, I

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<v Speaker 2>just use my cell phone. But somebody did. I won

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<v Speaker 2>an award and I got a free Kindle Fire that's

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<v Speaker 2>still in the packaging. So someone's getting that for Christmas giftings. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what totally Okay, So I'll give you my top. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a bunch of books that I love, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you two, Leida to start with one The

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<v Speaker 2>Alchemist by Paolo Coelo. It is one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>books of all time. To me, if you are like

0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 2>chasing a dream, it's just like a great book to

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<v Speaker 2>read for if you are kind of like in that

0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:49.239
<v Speaker 2>mindset he really talks about. The book is a it's

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<v Speaker 2>a fiction book about a journey of a young boy,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's so beautifully written. There's so many quotables. It's

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<v Speaker 2>actually like one of the best selling books of all time,

0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Pala Coello's book. And if you just read it, just

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<v Speaker 2>take your time. Almost everyone that I know that's read it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh my gosh, I love that book. And

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<v Speaker 2>what he really just what you really learn at the

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<v Speaker 2>end is that the journey and the dream of are

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<v Speaker 2>one and the same, and to really like, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you go forth in life and making sure that the

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<v Speaker 2>thing you're striving for is also in alignment in the

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<v Speaker 2>way you're striving for it. So The Alchemist like Alchemist

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<v Speaker 2>by Paolo Coelo. And my second book I'll suggest to

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<v Speaker 2>you is The Four Hour work Week by Tim Ferris

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<v Speaker 2>Ferris with an F. I love that book because Tim

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<v Speaker 2>Ferris is what it's part of. Well, he coined this

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<v Speaker 2>term the new rich, so the old witch for this.

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<v Speaker 2>You work, work, work, and you get old and then

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<v Speaker 2>you retire and you live this good life. Tim Ferris

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<v Speaker 2>is like, well, I don't want to have to be

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<v Speaker 2>old to enjoy money and enjoy life, so he said,

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:48.440
<v Speaker 2>I want to be the new rich, you know. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Ferris believes that you should take many retirements throughout

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<v Speaker 2>your life, like working really hard, taking a break, working

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<v Speaker 2>really hard, taking a break, or just redesigning or practicing

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle design where you are actively designing your life to

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<v Speaker 2>be what you wanted to be. And in The Four

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:07.399
<v Speaker 2>Hour work Week he teaches you how to do so

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<v Speaker 2>through delegation, automation, all of these great tools. It's he

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<v Speaker 2>I used that book to help me build a budgetista

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<v Speaker 2>and like design the life that I'm living now and

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<v Speaker 2>that like you know, I work for myself and I

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<v Speaker 2>travel a lot and I enjoy what I do. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're if you're even if you're not looking to

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<v Speaker 2>start a business. It's just a great book for anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who's kind of like, I don't want to live the

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<v Speaker 2>traditional like trajectory of life of working really hard and

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<v Speaker 2>retiring when I'm old. I want to have fun now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So those yeah, those are my two.

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<v Speaker 1>What about you, Mandy, I need to read both those books.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are books that I've always heard about but I've

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<v Speaker 1>never like gotten around to. Meanwhile, I've been reading Harry

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<v Speaker 1>Potter series, like sometimes, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I gonna have time? I mean between these sty

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<v Speaker 2>Potter books.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so bad. I'm such a nerd here. I

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 1>am like critiquing all these Star Wars fans who are

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 1>like gigging out. Meanwhile, that was that was me when

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Harry Potter came into theories theaters but matter.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've read them all to go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought about this and this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite books. And I discovered it because when I

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<v Speaker 1>started doing personal finance, I had no idea what I

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.439
<v Speaker 1>was doing, and I kind of learned by trial and error.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the books I came across, which happens

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<v Speaker 1>to be free, is called Think and Grow Rich. Think

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 1>and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. This book is almost

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<v Speaker 1>a century old. It might even be No, it was

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 1>written in the thirties and nineteen thirties, so it's over set.

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 1>What's seventy years old? This book, like literally Think and

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:32.399
<v Speaker 1>Grow Rich, It is free because it's out of the

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<v Speaker 1>public It's in the public domain. You can google Think

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>and Grow Rich pdf. You can download the pdf, print

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 1>it out, whatever you want. It is the most basic

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>and smart personal finance advice. It is if you read

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<v Speaker 1>any personal finance book today, I mean Tony from Tim

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Ferris probably to like Tony Robbins, to Susie ormand Dave Ramsey.

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:57.120
<v Speaker 1>All of those principles are literally come from this book.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not saying they're pulling from them. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you read personal finance books long enough, a lot

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 1>of things repeat themselves, right, like automate your savings, have

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 1>a goal, have a plan for your goal, look ahead

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 1>to the future. And he interviewed five hundred millionaires to

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:19.200
<v Speaker 1>find the success formula. Now, if you've read the synopsis

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>of Tony Robbins's new, incredibly powerful, incredibly successful new book,

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>it's basically the same concept. No shade to Tony Robbins,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm saying like, if you want the free version

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and a shorter one. By the way, Napoleon Hills. Thinking

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Garridge is awesome and he's just a fascinating person too,

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:38.160
<v Speaker 1>if you want to read about him. He's born into

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>poverty in like Virginia, and the fact that he grew

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<v Speaker 1>up to become an advisor to Andrew Carnegie and sold

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 1>over seven million copies of this book. Like there's a

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 1>reason he sold that many. I love Thinking Garridge. I

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 1>kind of want to reread it. I mean, it's not

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>like the sexiest book, but it's so simple and so basic.

0:27:58.080 --> 0:27:59.439
<v Speaker 1>And the fact that you can get a PDF of

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>it and it's you know it really it really has

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<v Speaker 1>like those main primary tenants. There was a book on

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<v Speaker 1>my desk today I got called The Index Card, which

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>is coming out written by oh, another really good author,

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.639
<v Speaker 1>Helene Olin. This book is called The Index Card, and

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:15.959
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to you know it's it's it's the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that all the personal finance advice you need can fit

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 1>onto an index card. I believe that, yes, And so

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:22.640
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what I'm talking about here, like these

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.959
<v Speaker 1>basic tenants, like all these personal finance books, it's more

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 1>about finding the flavor that works for you. Yes, because

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 1>they all should be telling you some of the things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I mean, So like spend lesson

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.919
<v Speaker 2>you make, you know, invest automate. You're right that, like

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 2>unless some new technology comes out, then it's basically the

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 2>same tent. It's almost like like like the health food

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 2>like the health industry, right, like exercise, eat right and

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 2>eating moderation, you know what I mean. So it's like, yeah,

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, so what is someone going to tell me

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<v Speaker 2>unless you come up with some like some magic thing,

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 2>some new technology that totally changes the game. But other

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.080
<v Speaker 2>than that, you just have to eat in moderation and

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 2>eat some vegetables every once in a while and move

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 2>your body.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Yeah. So I would love to start making sure

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>some more books. I'm sitting here thinking of so many

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>more that I could talk about.

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, me too, I'm just doing that. We should

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 2>have this book in that book, I'm like, well I

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 2>read so Mandy, it's that time again. It's time for

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 2>the feel good section portion of the BA podcast. It's

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 2>time for weed. I know you have a good win.

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I've went deaf in one ear.

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 2>See how many trying to come to me. You know what,

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even do my hey, hey hey, I forgot.

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 1>See it's been a while, I know.

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 2>And you guys didn't even remind me. Come on, ba listeners,

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 2>make some.

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 1>More special if you do it every once in a night.

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh really, you see how many trying to shut me

0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 2>down again?

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's a little sensitive tonight.

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>So did you want to go first? I know you

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 2>had a really great win, or did you want me

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 2>to go first?

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I can go first. I wanted to shout out Ray. Okay,

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>my girl Isray Adventures of an Awkward Black Girl. Did

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>you ever watch that YouTube series?

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Of course?

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>So funny? Oh god, So she's coming out with her

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 1>own podcast. O. First of all, she has a TV

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>show coming on HBO, which is going to be already

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty huge. By the way, if you're listening, Isray's friends

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>or cousins or publicist. We're trying to get her to

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>come on the podcast. Yeah I heard that she's been

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>tied up with the show, is what we've heard back.

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>So maybe I'll should sweet Atesray and tell her to

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 1>come on the Brand Ambition podcast. Yeah, it'd be awesome.

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, she has a new so the TV show's

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>coming out. This new podcast sounds really cool. It's not

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>just going to be like her talking. It's called Fruit.

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 1>It debuts in February, and it's going to be an

0:30:57.040 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>original fiction based podcast centered around a person called X,

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>a football player who's gay, okay, saying it's a guy.

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, which sounds really unique and interesting. I

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I just love her. I just love her

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>point of view. I think it's so different and I'm

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>excited that she's like finding another platform to tell her stories.

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's good. I mean, it's the Ray. It's just

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 2>it's just so dope because I remember, like I don't

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 2>remember how many years ago it was, but my sister,

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 2>one of my sisters, saying, oh my god, you totally

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 2>have to watch this girl on YouTube. She's just like us.

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 2>And I was like what, And I remember the first

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 2>episode she showed me, It's the Ray, was like in

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 2>the car, like wrapping the gangs, the rap as somebody

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 2>pulls up, and I'm like, that is so me. The

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 2>least gangs the person, you know, but like yeah, like

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:44.479
<v Speaker 2>in the car, like you know, like just dug down

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 2>in the car until someone pulls up and you're like, Hi,

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 2>how you doing.

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>My favorite Oh, go ahead, go ahead. My favorite episode

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>is the Stapler where she has to go to Anger

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Management where she like someone forget she she like takes

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 1>a stapler and threatens to like kill somebody with it

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>in the office, like she has one of her awkward

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 1>outburst and then she has to go to Anger Management.

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>That's where she meets White Jays.

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<v Speaker 2>We love music.

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh. Also, she has a book out too.

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 2>That's right, she does. I saw it like on I

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 2>think one of my favorite podcasters, Crystal or An or

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Kid Fury, didn't they like host her party in New York.

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I was like, thanks for the I don't know, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for the invite, Kid Fury. If you know, you just

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 2>let him know that hiss like he feels about Beyonce,

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 2>the way he feels about Beyonce I feel about him.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll know what that means.

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>He's the most. You have her book on my I

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 1>have her book about my night standing. To pick that up,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I have too many Shandon rhymes. His book.

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 2>You have to get on. You have to get like

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 2>audible or something that like, so you can listen to them.

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 1>That's true. I should do that, all right, well, that's

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>my that's my win. What's your win?

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 2>No, but I thought you had like a special award

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 2>that you got.

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh I already forgot, since we recorded this already, I

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>forgot what I said. Yeah, I was like a nudge nut.

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I got a too. I got a too too,

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 1>my own horn real quick. So at Yahoo, which is

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 1>a company with like a gajillion bajillion people's if it's

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 1>really if anyone works at a company, you know, it's

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>really hard to feel like your work is valued and

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 1>like you're noticed and stuff. But this week, this past week,

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 1>our global editor in Chief Martha Nelson, who by the way,

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 1>was the first woman to ever be editor in chief

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>of Time, Inc. And by the way, started in Style

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 1>magazine and renovated, reinvigorated people dot com, huge, huge media icon,

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>she presented me with a Media Excellence Award at Yahoo

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 1>for having one of the highest for having a couple

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 1>of like the really high high ranking stories the past

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:49.239
<v Speaker 1>six months. And it was it was really it was

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 1>just like a really special, unexpected moment and awesome. So yeah,

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 1>it felt really good.

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 2>You see, Mandy, you have to ask for her autograph.

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, yes, she's gonna be wearing glasses and you

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 2>can't ride the elevator with her. You have to ride separately. Right,

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I call you, Mandy Wintour.

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:12.279
<v Speaker 1>I did win. I did win an Apple TV, which

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I actually have no use for. I might regift it,

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>don't I.

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Know for sure what I'm the queen of, especially for

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 2>something good. I mean, that's a good one.

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to try to pry out of my fiance's

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>hands because he's really attached to it, although we do

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>not need it. We have like three other mechanisms for

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>watching Hulu on our television.

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 2>No, he's like no, He's like it's new. Yeah, No,

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 2>we don't need any more gadgets. My win is that,

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Daniel what is it? Holds Witz law holts Claw. I

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 2>know that that police officer that he raped or molested

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 2>or side of my just just a myriad of sexual

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 2>crime assaults aga women of color in Ohio. Right it

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 2>was Ohio?

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was wait, no, no, no, remember we made

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>this mistake before. It's Oklahoma, Oklahoma. Are you sure?

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Because remember I was like, Ohio, you suck and then

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I read oh.

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now I'm not.

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was Oklahoma.

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:21.839
<v Speaker 2>One of the oh, sorry, states, we know things and.

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was Oklahoma City, okay.

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 2>And so he was found guilty and I watched the

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 2>video in Verdicaster was being read, and I don't know,

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 2>it just really struck me as strange that he was

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 2>like crying hysterically. I don't know, I just like, but

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 2>and not even crying out of remorse. That's I guess

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 2>that's what struck me. That a lot of times, when

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, you see people, they get really upset when

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:46.880
<v Speaker 2>they realize they're going to go to jail for a

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 2>long time. You can kind of see they're like, oh man,

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 2>what a mistake. This is terrible, why did I do this?

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 2>But he was really crying out of like self pity, like,

0:35:55.400 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 2>oh my life, I'm like, you raped and sideomi and

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 2>assaulted all of these women, and now you're crying out

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 2>of self pity. I don't know, it just really just

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, usually I feel bad for people when they're

0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 2>feeling bad, but I didn't. I just was disgusted, honestly

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 2>by him. And oh, there was this great quote and

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I meant to pull it up, but basically his lawyer

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:22.799
<v Speaker 2>was trying to defend him, like he was dilligent. He

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 2>was a good guy. He was honest, and he had integrity.

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 2>He might have been a little overzealous in practicing the

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:32.919
<v Speaker 2>law as a police officer, but where would we be

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 2>without men like him? And someone one of the women

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 2>said we'd be safe safe, and I just thought, Wow,

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 2>that's very telling. And I hope that he spends a long, long,

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 2>long time away from the public because he's a danger

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 2>to people, well to women of color anyway, he's a danger.

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 1>It means so much when you especially in the year

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the last two years we've had as far as coverage

0:36:55.000 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 1>of police violence against African America in general, it's nice

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 1>to see someone finally be held accountable, you know what

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:03.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean?

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Like we just saw this week the same well this

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 1>happened a week or so ago, but just recently, Freddie

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Gray's trial was declared a mistrial. And I'm like, how

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 1>can you take someone into custody and between the time

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>that you handcuff him and he rises at the police station,

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 1>he's broken his neck and died, and yet no one's accountable. Yeah,

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 1>that's just like Jerry's hung. The jury's confused like those Yeah,

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:29.320
<v Speaker 1>like very uh Liken get broken.

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, I've known people who've just been standing there

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 2>and nothing's happened to them. Their neck has just magically snapped,

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Like what does that even mean? It's only because of

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 2>the color of his skin that there's even a question

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 2>that some police misconduct took place. And yeah, I don't think,

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's so crazy that I guess it's hard

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 2>for people who are not brown to wrap their mind

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 2>around what it must feel like when people think that

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 2>bad things ought to happen to you because of how

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 2>you look, or that you must have done something to

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 2>bring this about. I don't think that, you know, people

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 2>who are not brown can fully appreciate what that feels

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:12.280
<v Speaker 2>like coming up where I have to think to myself

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 2>sometimes like well, I don't know, like if I say

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 2>something about this, you know, maybe a shop girl followed

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 2>me or whatever, or maybe someone like yelled at me

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 2>or kurstyett or call me like the N word, Like,

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, is anyone going to believe me one? Or

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:28.920
<v Speaker 2>like even when I was in school, I went to

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:32.280
<v Speaker 2>school with like my school was like very not diverse.

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 2>I think I had like one other brown girl in

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 2>my middle school, my best friend Veronica and things would happen.

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 2>I remember like finding out that Veronica was like suspended

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 2>in like sixth or seventh grade for fighting a boy.

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 2>And it was like, what Veronica. And when I went

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 2>to her house after school, I'm like, what happened? She

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 2>was like we were sitting in history class. They were

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:57.799
<v Speaker 2>talking about slavery, and one of the boys, who was

0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 2>not brown, who was right, said, oh, like if you

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:03.880
<v Speaker 2>if this was back in the day, you'd be a

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 2>slave and word and and the teacher said nothing. And

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:11.879
<v Speaker 2>so Veronica looked at the teacher looked at the boy,

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and nothing was said, like no, chastising, no, don't say that,

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 2>or that's terrible, or go to the principal. So see,

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 2>the thing is, if they knew Veronica, like I knew Roonica,

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 2>he would have took a step buck. Ronica is not

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 2>the one. So she said, I got up and I

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 2>jumped on him and I told him that, like and

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 2>you know what, it's a shame that, like, but why

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 2>does a sixth grader have to be the one to

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 2>tell a boy that that's not okay? And like, you know,

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 2>but of course she's the one who got suspended. I

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 2>mean she you know, she shouldn't have like, you know,

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:43.800
<v Speaker 2>jumped on him. But at the same time, he should

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 2>have got suspended too, but he did not. And so yeah,

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:49.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the people who don't live in this

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 2>skin basically can fully appreciate what that feels like to

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:56.480
<v Speaker 2>know that you always come from a place of guilt

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 2>and have to work your way to innocence in the

0:39:58.040 --> 0:39:58.840
<v Speaker 2>eyes of the public.

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's that's absolutely true. And I mean I

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>have white family. My mother is white, and she'll never

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>understand fully, but I completely believe that you can want

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 1>to understand or at least be open to listening. Like

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 1>I think listening is so important. Like sometimes you just

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 1>got to shut up and listen. I've always said this before,

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:18.959
<v Speaker 1>like white people, white wait, anybody in general, just shut

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 1>up and listen. Like for I'm really proud of this.

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 1>At Yahoo on Yahoo Finance, we just put up a

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 1>story today, a video where we had six or seven women,

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 1>men and women professionals of color you know around the

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>New York area come into the studio and we just

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 1>asked them, you know, what is it like being the

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 1>only one in your office or being a minority in

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 1>your office today? And it was fascinating how different each

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:43.799
<v Speaker 1>of their stories were. You know, one woman's like, oh,

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:45.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm a Latina, so everyone thinks that I can dance

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:48.919
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sassy. One of the people in the video

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 1>is my friend from college, Tammy, and she's, you know,

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about how she's a black woman, she's incredibly accomplished.

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:56.280
<v Speaker 1>She works for the New York Times, and she's saying

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 1>how I have to be careful not to raise my

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 1>voice or someone will just think even if I'm passionate

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>about something, their immediate thought will be, oh, you're just

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 1>an angry black woman. Yes, you know. So I would say, like,

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can watch, you can read, you can watch,

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 1>you can listen, and you can learn. You may not

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 1>feel at one hundred percent, but you can at least

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. And I think that that can do a

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>world of difference, make a world of difference.

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm hoping like that the way that kids are

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 2>growing up now that I mean, you can't help but

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 2>be injected with the fact that people are different, and

0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, you can't hide anymore in like an all

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 2>white neighborhood or all this neighborhood, or you know, you

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 2>you're forced but well, exactly like we're doing exactly through

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 2>your ear, like whether it's music, whether it's social media.

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, but the year twenty forty two majority minorities

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 1>in America? Ooh, majority minority, majority, it's happening. Get on board.

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:54.319
<v Speaker 2>Isn't so crazy that we have to even say the

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 2>fact that the that someone is a majority by definition

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:00.919
<v Speaker 2>means that they cannot be a minority. And yet that's

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:05.760
<v Speaker 2>the word that's still used, right you know, h ba, people,

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 2>what are we going to do with this world? Keep

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:08.880
<v Speaker 2>being fabulous?

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:10.879
<v Speaker 1>I know what they're gonna do. They're gonna email us

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 1>at the AMM Ambition Podcast if you have any questions,

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 1>career questions, personal finance questions, Christmas questions. Oh my god,

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 1>it's Christmas time. I know we have one more show

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 1>before holiday.

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 2>I know it's a little gift to you, a little

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 2>if you know. I'd love to know what you guys

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 2>are getting people up for Christmas or how are you

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:29.880
<v Speaker 2>dealing with that. I'm not even gonna lie. I have

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:33.719
<v Speaker 2>not purchased not one Christmas gift. It's not because I'm

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 2>like the cheap budget Lisa. It's because I hate Christmas

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 2>shopping honestly.

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh, oh, someone's in trouble.

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:42.799
<v Speaker 2>Woo woo. And on that note, we're out. They're coming

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 2>for Mandy. They're coming for Mandy.

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 1>All right, I have a good night. We'll see you

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 1>guys next week.

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:49.919
<v Speaker 2>All right, by I talk to you guys later