1 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: All right, guys, well, thank you so much for your patience. 2 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: We're really really really really sorry. Well I especially am 3 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: sorry since it's my job to edit the podcast and 4 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: I screwed up. 5 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: But we're back. We're back. I know so many of 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: you guys, you guys have hit us up like so 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: when is BA coming back? 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: And I'm like, we're back. We're really glad that you 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: love the show. Bud, Please don't hate us too much 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: for putting it up late. Just look at this way. 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: You have a nice little Friday treat exactly. So let's 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: kick off this show. I saw something crazy today that 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: I had to talk. I'm kind of glad that we 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: had a couple of days, like we had this delay 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: because now we can talk about this craziness. There's this 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: article on PopSugar dot com, like this kind of thing 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: entertainment blog, and they compare Kylie Jenner, who has not 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: one drop of Latin in her to The headline was like, 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: Kylie Jenner is basically every a mix of all your 20 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: favorite Latina celebrities, and like there was ay. They basically 21 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: just took like screen like screenshots of her Instagram account 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: where she takes pictures of like Here's Kyllie Jenner showing 23 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: off her naked butt. Isn't she like j Lo? Here's 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: Kellie Jenner wearing like a throwback eighties outfit? Isn't she 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: like Selena? Let me tell you, like you think black 26 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: Twitter is bad? Like Hispanic Twitter. 27 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: After them? Yes, as they should. That's so funny. I 28 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: didn't even know there was Hispanic Twitter. But that's why 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: I get them. 30 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: They exist. This is a thing, like, I mean, this 31 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: is this came the same week? Was it one more? 32 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: The Golden Globes announced? Was that last week or this week? 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: I forget, It's been a long week. But during the 34 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: Golden Globes, my my like celebrity crush America for yeah. 35 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: She So she was announcing the nominations on camera, and 36 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: some people, some media outlets, some major ones were tweeting like, 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: oh look, it's Gina Rodriguez announcing the Golden Globes. Gina 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: Rodriguez is a whole different person, yes, but another Latina, 39 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: and I guess they were just mixing them up, which 40 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: is just like embarrassing. 41 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 2: It is very that is always very embarrassing. 42 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: I can't even apologize on their behalf because I don't 43 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: know like how they just all look alike. There's only 44 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: like one or two, so you got fifty to fift 45 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: chances of getting them right. 46 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: That's how they feel. I'm just reading some of the 47 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: tweets right now. I'm like, ooh, they're like, uh, Kylie Jenner. 48 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: Comparing Kylie Jenner to a strong, beautiful, natural Latina is 49 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: a bit insulting thumbs down. 50 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just sort of like some people are saying, 51 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: it's just more about cultural another example of cultural appropriation, 52 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: Like just because she got button plants and she has 53 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: big old' lip injections, and she has like these stereotypical 54 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: Latina or even black features that now now claim but 55 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: you know, she's not claiming it. It's not like Kylie 56 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: Jenner said that she's like a Latina. It's really pop 57 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: Sugars situation. Yeah, And so I took that mess down 58 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: real quick, yeah. 59 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: Real quick, because they're like, uh, you know, that's the 60 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: thing I kind of like about social media these days. 61 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: It's like a good thing and a bad thing. But 62 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 2: that like when something is not right, that people can 63 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: hold you to task, because before it used to be 64 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: like whatever, you can't do anything about it. Now people 65 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: are like, oh really, let me, let me get to 66 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: let me talk to Twitter real quick and see if 67 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: we can't make you guys realize you're wrong. 68 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: That's my favorite way to get customer service now. Yes, 69 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: like I've complained about airlines and m h even my 70 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: meal service that I use, like my plated a complain 71 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: on Twitter and they're like, oh my god, we'll get 72 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: to you right away. It's so much faster than like 73 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: calling eight hundred years. 74 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: Like I was at a when I was in Barbados 75 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: and so many of you guys hit me up like saying, 76 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: oh I heard you think gonna be in Barbados, Thanks 77 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: VA listeners. And so I flew Jet Blue, which I 78 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: actually really liked. I'm flown Jet Blue in a long time, 79 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: and so it was like really roomy, loved it. I 80 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: had to check a bag which was twenty bucks if 81 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: you checked it online, which I did, and then when 82 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: I was in Barbados, I tried to check the bag 83 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: coming back. Couldn't do it online. I was like, no words, 84 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: I'll do it the kiosk. Try to do it at 85 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: the kiosk. I literally hit up every single kiosk, and 86 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 2: because it costs more money, if you do it at 87 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: the death. So they all were not working. They kept freezing, 88 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: and so I went to the counter and was like, hey, 89 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: my bag. It won't let me, you know, check my bag. 90 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: And they still charged me the extra nine bucks and 91 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 2: I was pissed. So, Jet Blue, you have a tweet coming, 92 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: but I was just like, ah, but that's how I 93 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: get my customer service as well. I'm like, let me 94 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: send a quick little tweet like uh, Jet Blue. So 95 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: I like how that is. 96 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: A pro tip. Definitely complain on social media. Yes, well, 97 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: here's something that no one's complaining about. Averdi Verne's Barbidol. Yes, 98 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: sold out in like lickety split seconds. Yes, isn't that amazing? 99 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: You imagine I've never I can't imagine any other brown 100 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: Barbie Dolls ever sold out like that. To have it 101 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: be a director and not like a model, not a 102 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: Tyra Banks or nothing against Tyra. 103 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I know what you meaning. Like, she's known 104 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: although Ama Duvine is beautiful, that's not what she's known for. 105 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: That's not why she's celebrated. She's celebrated because of her 106 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 2: craft and her skill. And you know, you know, no 107 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: knock against beautiful women. Obviously that's awesome, but it's just that, like, wow, Okay, 108 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 2: this woman is being celebrated and you can look up 109 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: to her because she's this self taught director, which I 110 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: think is amazing. 111 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, well, young girls need to know that 112 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: you can be beautiful, but that's not all you have 113 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: to offer. And if you're not traditionally or whatever just 114 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: the way that you know, mainstream media what they consider 115 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: to be beautiful, then you can look at this Barbie 116 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: and say, well, that's not all that any woman has 117 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: to offer, and the exact talent and you know, imagination 118 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: and skill that you can offer. I thought it was awesome. 119 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: She actually did like one of my one of my 120 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: motivational videos. It's her speaking I think like too. I 121 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: don't know if it was a school of but it 122 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: was directors, like young directors, up and coming directors, and 123 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: she talks about something called like her smelly coat, and 124 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: really she just says that, like you know, when you're 125 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: really really desperate. So yes, she definitely calls it the 126 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: smelly coat. And her talk is called take that smelly 127 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: coat off of take that smelly coat of desperation off. 128 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 2: And it's just such a dope it's just such a dope. Oh, 129 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: it's just such a dope, dope, just like talk that 130 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: she's done. And what I like most about it is 131 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: she talks about how when she first started out, she 132 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 2: was kind of reaching out to everyone and like begging 133 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: everyone to help, and it was like wearing this stinky, 134 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: smelly coat, and it offended people that people don't want 135 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: to help you if you're not willing to help yourself. 136 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: And once she took off that code of desperation and 137 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: decided to do it anyway, then that's when people are 138 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: coming to her and she started attracting like the things 139 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: that she wanted. So if you get a chance you 140 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: need a little like motivation, google Ava Duverne smelly coat 141 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: and watch it's like maybe like ten minutes watch this talk. 142 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 143 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: That's like fake it till you make it. Yeah, Like 144 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: even if you're nervous, or even if you are desperate, 145 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: you just have to walk in like you already got 146 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: the job. 147 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, or at the very least, just just do it. 148 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: That's one thing. We live in such an amazing age 149 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: and that like you might say, oh, I really want 150 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: to be on TV. No one wants to put you 151 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: on TV. Hello, YouTube is free? Or I really want 152 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: to be a writer, but you can't get into a 153 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: magazine start a blog. So it's like there are micro 154 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: ways that you can do macro things, you know, and 155 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: so you know, if you do such a good job, 156 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: sometimes what happens is you draw such an audience that 157 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: those those larger outlets that you want to be a 158 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: part of start coming to you. 159 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am. Well, if you want to start a podcast, 160 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: just do it. 161 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, do it. Google your way through like Mandy exactly. 162 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, oh you know what we need to talk about? 163 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: Hashtag stay mad Abby. 164 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, this one gave me such a giggle. 165 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: I love brown people. They're so clever they are. Let's 166 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: do the recap. So basically this is about the Supreme 167 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: Court case. Abigail Fisher is a white college student from 168 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: Texas who's suing the University of Texas overclaims that she 169 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: was denied admission to the school based on the fact 170 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: that she's not white. And she's referring to this program 171 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: called top ten where ut for ten percent of I 172 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: forget how exactly how it works, but like for ten 173 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: percent of new admissions, they factor in race as one 174 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: of the factors of admission. So she's sue them, like 175 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: seven years ago in this court case is now in 176 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, and it's been hilarious people's reaction on 177 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: social media. 178 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: Yes, and so people have been sharing like brown folks 179 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: have been sharing themselves in their capping gown or like 180 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: lifting all of their amazing degrees and hashtags stay mad, Abby, 181 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: which has been hilarious. One of my favorites is like 182 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: this young girl leaning over a banister in her in 183 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: her gown from graduation, and she says, and I guess 184 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: this is she's actually attending or graduated from the same 185 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: school that Abby wanted to get into. And she references 186 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: this Chris Brown look at Me Now on song where 187 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: he says, how y'all so mad? You can't even get 188 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: into the club? You're still outside? And so that's the song. 189 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: So she says like under the caption, how you mad, 190 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: but you can't even get into the university? You still outside? 191 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: And it just had me giggling. I was like, oh, 192 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: look at me now, Abby. 193 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: Do you know it's truly insane though, is the fact 194 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: that someone points it out and earth because this has 195 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: been through many lower courts already and somebody found out 196 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: that her SAT scores and her GPA, even if she 197 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: had been black, she wouldn't have gotten into the school. 198 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: Which is are we discussing this at the Supreme Court 199 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: level and it's given away to so much other crap, 200 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: Like Justice antonin Scalia said some really stupid stuff. He 201 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 1: was and somehow on the in the first day of 202 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: oral arguments, which was last week, he was responding to 203 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: the to Abby's attorney or I forget which attorney he 204 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: was responding to, but he basically said, in a nutshell, 205 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: you know, wouldn't it be better in some cases if 206 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: you know black kids went to lesser schools so that 207 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: they didn't feel so challenged by the material and that 208 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: they you know, wouldn't be so intimidated. I mean that 209 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: was weren't his exact words, but that was a sentiment 210 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: behind it. Yeah, just like such, I'm like, great, this 211 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: is a Supreme Court justice, Supreme Court justice who, by 212 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: the way, has their job for eternity. 213 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: For eternity, so let's hope eternity comes quick. 214 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: For oh, so people are serving him up. 215 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: To Yeah, and it just makes you just so like wow, 216 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: this is supposed to be the unbiased law of the land, 217 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: the voice of like law in our country, and this 218 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: guy's was saying that, like, people of color can't possibly 219 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: keep up at ut at these Ivy League schools, and 220 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: that's just don't. 221 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: Don't expect anything out of them. Just yeah, they'll never 222 00:10:58,600 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: keep up. This is what I'm talk about when we 223 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: talk about like when people when when black people brown 224 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: people talk about having to work twice as hard to 225 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: prove themselves. Like this is what we're talking about. Because 226 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: someone's thinking you only got that job because you're black 227 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: and Bush, or someone's thinking, like if you you probably 228 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: can't even keep up with this, Like we have low 229 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: expectations of what you're capable of, you know when you 230 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: walk in a room. 231 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then add on top of that, being a 232 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: woman in life is amazing. 233 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: Whatever. Some of the smartest people I went to h 234 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,599 Speaker 1: I went to UGA University of Georgia down south, Like, hey, bulldogs, 235 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: seven percent I think seven percent or less Black students, 236 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: but like the smartest people on campus for the black women, 237 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: I swear to God, and they're like, I don't know 238 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: one black student from UGA who was not off doing 239 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: They made some things right now, I don't know one. 240 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: I can't think of one. And it was a small 241 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: it was a small world. I knew them all. They 242 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: don't knew each other, of course. So moving on. 243 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: Right from buzzworthy, I hope you guys are buzzing with both. 244 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: If you have any buzzer things and you're like, I 245 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 2: want to hear your opinion, then please, please please. You 246 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: can tweet us at the BA podcast, go to Brown 247 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: Ambition on Facebook, and you can email us. 248 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: At Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com. 249 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 2: Boom. 250 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: I hope I got that right, I think so. 251 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: So it is now time for Brown Break. 252 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: The best time of the day. 253 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: Don't we have like somebody special did something special for us? 254 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we have a little oh yeah, one of 255 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: our listeners, Oh now I'm going to forget her name. 256 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: I had it up and now I forgot it. One 257 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: of our listeners came up with a little jingle like 258 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: a little Brown Break song, and I want to play 259 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: it for you guys. It's super sweet. Okay, yeah, so 260 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: here it is. This This jingle is from Quinn. I 261 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: don't want to send her last name or say her 262 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: last name, just in case she doesn't want me putting 263 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: her on blasts like that. But thank you so much, Quinn. 264 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: And here's her little jingle. 265 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 4: I need a brown break, baby, All I need is 266 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 4: a brown break. 267 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: Wasn't that cute? 268 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 2: Yes, Quinn, you got a great voice. I love it. 269 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: I would love for people to send in some brown ambition, 270 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: not brown ambisson, brown break jingles, because you know we 271 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: don't have the best voices. Although you can't tell me that. No. 272 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: One of my friends is like, can you guys stop singing? 273 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: Actually like, oh hate her. 274 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the jersey clap first of all. 275 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: She is. But you know, your friends always tell you 276 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: the truth. 277 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: I know. But I mean, you know, a little song 278 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: here and there. I mean I could see maybe we 279 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: won't have a full out musical like we did that 280 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 2: last song. I'm doing our last podcast. But I mean, 281 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: I don't I like a little jig here and there. 282 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: But even if you can't sing, just send us some 283 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: if you have a brown break that you want to 284 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: take enough to share them on air. We've gotten some 285 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: quirky ones. Some people want to take a break from millennials. 286 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: Ooh that I take offense too. 287 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: That's actually my brown break. 288 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's go right into it. 289 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, So my brown break is not I'm not taking 290 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: a break from millennials the individuals. I'm taking a break 291 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: from the word millennials. So, for those of you who 292 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: are unaware, millennials are like the new boomers. They're born 293 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: between the ages of nineteen eighty three and the year 294 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: two thousand and one, and I don't know, just you know, 295 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: it's just so annoying. Everything is millennials, millennials, millennials, millennial. 296 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: It's like nobody wants to advertise or speak to or 297 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: reach out to any other age group. The millennials are 298 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: just like the only thing people are talking about. And 299 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: I'm sick of it. Am I hating? Yes? I am, 300 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: because I go ahead. 301 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: There's always this obsession with the younger generation to like, oh, 302 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: what do they want? What kind of geans are they wearing? 303 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: Where are they shopping? They're like, they don't even have 304 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: the money to spend in your store like their parents 305 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: or I mean whatever. Like older millennials, obviously we have 306 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: money and we were like professionals. But I'm like, maybe 307 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: there's no reason why you shouldn't be targeting like the 308 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: Gen x's. You're not absolute yet Tiff, You're still relevant. 309 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: I know, well, you know, I just it's important. 310 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: I just missed the millennial mark off by not too much, 311 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: but still, I'm just you know, it is. I guess 312 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: I'm just so sick of like people acting like there's 313 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: no other like demographic population, that this is like the 314 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: it population, and then like in ten years it'll be 315 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: the new whatever they'll call the babies babies below you guys. 316 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm just so sick of that word millennial. 317 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: And I'm willing and able to take a brown break 318 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: from that word. I don't want to hear it. Just gonnakay. 319 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna call you guys. Hey, you well, that 320 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: was a gen Z. What's who's gen Z? That's below? 321 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: And gen Z is like my little brother, he's nineteen 322 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: ninety two. I think it's like the nineties babies. Okay, 323 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna call them. I met someone who 324 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: was born in ninety eight and they're like a teenager, 325 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, happening. 326 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: What in ninety eight I was like graduating high school? 327 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, well I was still young. 328 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, we can get on the side. I can't wait. 329 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: I know, I feel that way though, I want. 330 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: To welcome you with Ben Gay. I'm gonna welcome you 331 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: with mom jeans. 332 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: I already wear and use those items, do you know what? 333 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: You know what? I had my first experience, not my first, 334 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: but like I was thinking, you know, they're making a new, 335 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: a new dirty dancing remake are with Abigail Breslin. It's 336 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: gonna be on TV. I think ABC Family or something 337 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: like that. But I'm like, it pains me to think 338 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: that some young women, some young girls out there, that's 339 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: gonna be their first dirty dancing. Yeah, they're not going 340 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: to know. Patrick Swayze and Jennifer was. 341 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: That was like the best movie ever. 342 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: It still is so bad yet so good. 343 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: I know, has it has anybody called you. 344 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: Ma'am yet ma'am? Well, I'm from the South, so okay. 345 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like the first time that happened, 346 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: I was like, who are they talking to? 347 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: Not me? 348 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: Were like when someone says like, oh no, ask the lady. 349 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: I remember the first time that happened, I was like, 350 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: in my. 351 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: Life, ask the lady. 352 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And that was like the lady, who's that? 353 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: Wait? 354 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: I'm the lady. I'm a girl all the buzzwords of 355 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: getting older. 356 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: It's a ballad brown break. 357 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: Yes, So what about you? What are you breaking from? Uh? 358 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna do. I want to do this 359 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: in a diplomatic way, as I like to do all 360 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: things as pissing off as few people as possible. Like 361 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: I've only been engaged for a couple of weeks and 362 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm cool about it. It's cool. You know, 363 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: it's awesome. Love is real, marriage is great. But what 364 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: I didn't expect is people. What I was afraid of 365 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: is people being like so enthusiastic and like dragging me 366 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: in the hallways and like, you know, making a big scene. 367 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: And I'm kind of shy when it comes to this 368 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But in some cases, what I've gotten 369 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: is people like dumping their baggage on me, like their 370 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: marriage and like wedding baggage on me. Like I've heard 371 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: people tell me, you know, complain about, oh, when you 372 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: get married, such and such happens, You're like anymore, like like, oh, well, 373 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: it's very expensive, you know, don't spend so much in 374 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: the wedding. It's really expensive and you've only got like 375 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: a half and half chance anyway, whoa like actual and 376 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: then one person when I told I was engaged, one 377 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: person I actually was excited to tell her. The first 378 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: thing she said was why now, like because he wanted 379 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: to marry me. 380 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 2: Now I don't know. 381 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a yeah I mean and not letting 382 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: it get to me. But I just I feel like 383 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: it's making me even more cognizant of how because I 384 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: think in New York especially, it's like, you know, women, 385 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be all about your career and you 386 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: come here to really further yourself, you know, on a 387 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: personal level, and then like relationships are great, but they're 388 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: not like, you know, no one's coming here to get 389 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: their mrs degree, you know what I mean. And so 390 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: I feel like the initial reaction is always like, oh, 391 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: someone else is getting engaged, Like marriage is so lame anyway, 392 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie. I've rolled my eye that 393 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: you know that the all the engagement posts and like 394 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: awkward engagement photos people post on Facebook. But it's made 395 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: me realize that, like, you should be more careful of 396 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: your words around someone who's you know, making this huge 397 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: like leap or this huge change. 398 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because they're excited and now she should be. 399 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful, amazing thing. And I feel like sometimes 400 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: it's like the negativity like screams louder than the positivity 401 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: because like you know, because I like, I know so 402 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: many people who are in great relationships, but it's like 403 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: they don't talk about it much unless you know them 404 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: really personally. But people who are not, those are the 405 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: ones that you hear all the time and you're like, 406 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 2: is that it is? That's how it's going to be now, 407 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: you know, two people decide for themselves. 408 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: The best thing I did as I got older, like 409 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: in relationships, is stop asking my friends for advice on 410 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: every little thing that my partner did, you know what 411 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Like he said this, but what does that mean? No, 412 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: that's just like more an nooise that you don't need. Yeah, 413 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: so you just got to tune out because at the 414 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: end of the day, it's you and that person. 415 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 2: Yes, it's so important to keep Like one of my 416 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: best friends, she's got a great relationship, and honestly, I 417 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: can count on one hand that anytime that we've discussed 418 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: like him and honestly, and even then it's been like 419 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 2: very light. And so I've just learned from her that, like, 420 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: you know what, keep it that way. They're so great together. 421 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 2: I mean, they begin it forever. Whenever I see them, 422 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, it's like they just started dating. They're 423 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: just like fun together, they laugh. I mean they've been 424 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: together far ever, and I'm just like, wow, there's still 425 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: such lightness here. And I know there had to have 426 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 2: been a lot of ups and downs, but I don't 427 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: personally know because she's been very good at keeping that 428 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: until I've mimicked that with Superman, that like, you know, 429 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 2: to keep those things even with my close friends, to 430 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: myself because ultimately, what does my sister have to do 431 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 2: with what's happening, you know, with you know, unless like 432 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 2: you're an abusive relationship, then of course tell and ask 433 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: for help. But if you guys are just going through 434 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: normal relationship ups and downs and oh we had an 435 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 2: argument or I don't like the way he said that, 436 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: and I asked him if I look back, and he 437 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 2: didn't say no, right way, Like those are things you 438 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: can keep to yourself. 439 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: Plus, don't you know, I was always that girlfriend who's like, 440 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: oh he showed up five minutes late, we hate him now. Yeah, 441 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: And then once you forgave him, Like, oh you forgave 442 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: him already. God, you're weak, Like I used to judge 443 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: people so harsh. I don't know why, so uh yeah, 444 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: I feel like definitely you don't want to because your 445 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: friends will always stand up, like if you know, good 446 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: friends will always like if you are upset at somebody, 447 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: they will be ten times once you know what I mean, 448 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: and it's hard for. 449 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: Them to get past that. And exactly, you don't want 450 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 2: your friends looking at your guy like, m we'll see 451 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: how long you last. I heard about you yesterday. 452 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I really protect that, so I say, you know, 453 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: and plus listen, I come from a broken home many times, 454 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: like I have enough of my own hang ups about marriage, 455 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: like it's a huge accomplishment that I'm even like in 456 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: a space where I feel confident in getting married. And 457 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: I just feel like, you don't know what someone's personal 458 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: story is when you, you know, lay your own baggage on them. 459 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: So Brown break for the marriage, hate us. 460 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: You millennial marriage. There's no more from you. 461 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: It hasn't it hasn't been millennials, you know. 462 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: I know. 463 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm just are the ones you're excited. 464 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: I'm trying to blend our brown breaks together. That's what 465 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 466 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, got it. Sorry, I'll ask you what you 467 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: did now. I caught up? 468 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: What about some some No, it's not time for winds. 469 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: It's time for tips, man. 470 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: I think for tips this week. So we had a 471 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: reader question and she really wanted to know her names Elena. 472 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: I believe Lena wants to know if we can recommend 473 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: books been essential or monumental to our careers. If you 474 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: can't choose one, could we start sharing a recommended book 475 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: for listeners at the end of each show. 476 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: I actually like that idea. Lena, You is smart, You 477 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: is intelligent, You is special. 478 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: People do read books? 479 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 2: See, Yeah, I know. And honestly, I like, look, I'm 480 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: looking at my Kindle right now. So I'm a Kindle snob. 481 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: I'm like Kindle Fire. You might as well just get 482 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: another laptop. I like my Kindle What is it called 483 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: paper white? 484 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: You're a purist? Yeah, yeah, paper right too. 485 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: I am. I'm like, I just want my Kendle just 486 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 2: for reading. If I need all the other stuff, I 487 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: just use my cell phone. But somebody did. I won 488 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: an award and I got a free Kindle Fire that's 489 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: still in the packaging. So someone's getting that for Christmas giftings. Okay, 490 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: what totally Okay, So I'll give you my top. Well, 491 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: I have a bunch of books that I love, but 492 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: I'll give you two, Leida to start with one The 493 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 2: Alchemist by Paolo Coelo. It is one of my favorite 494 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: books of all time. To me, if you are like 495 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: chasing a dream, it's just like a great book to 496 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: read for if you are kind of like in that 497 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,239 Speaker 2: mindset he really talks about. The book is a it's 498 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: a fiction book about a journey of a young boy, 499 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: but it's so beautifully written. There's so many quotables. It's 500 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 2: actually like one of the best selling books of all time, 501 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: Pala Coello's book. And if you just read it, just 502 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: take your time. Almost everyone that I know that's read it, 503 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: it's like, oh my gosh, I love that book. And 504 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 2: what he really just what you really learn at the 505 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 2: end is that the journey and the dream of are 506 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 2: one and the same, and to really like, how do 507 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 2: you go forth in life and making sure that the 508 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: thing you're striving for is also in alignment in the 509 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: way you're striving for it. So The Alchemist like Alchemist 510 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: by Paolo Coelo. And my second book I'll suggest to 511 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: you is The Four Hour work Week by Tim Ferris 512 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: Ferris with an F. I love that book because Tim 513 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: Ferris is what it's part of. Well, he coined this 514 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 2: term the new rich, so the old witch for this. 515 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: You work, work, work, and you get old and then 516 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: you retire and you live this good life. Tim Ferris 517 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: is like, well, I don't want to have to be 518 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: old to enjoy money and enjoy life, so he said, 519 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 2: I want to be the new rich, you know. Instead, 520 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 2: Tim Ferris believes that you should take many retirements throughout 521 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 2: your life, like working really hard, taking a break, working 522 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: really hard, taking a break, or just redesigning or practicing 523 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 2: lifestyle design where you are actively designing your life to 524 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 2: be what you wanted to be. And in The Four 525 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 2: Hour work Week he teaches you how to do so 526 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: through delegation, automation, all of these great tools. It's he 527 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: I used that book to help me build a budgetista 528 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 2: and like design the life that I'm living now and 529 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 2: that like you know, I work for myself and I 530 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 2: travel a lot and I enjoy what I do. So yeah, 531 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: if you're if you're even if you're not looking to 532 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 2: start a business. It's just a great book for anyone 533 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 2: who's kind of like, I don't want to live the 534 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: traditional like trajectory of life of working really hard and 535 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: retiring when I'm old. I want to have fun now. 536 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 537 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: So those yeah, those are my two. 538 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: What about you, Mandy, I need to read both those books. 539 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: Those are books that I've always heard about but I've 540 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: never like gotten around to. Meanwhile, I've been reading Harry 541 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: Potter series, like sometimes, what. 542 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: Am I gonna have time? I mean between these sty 543 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 2: Potter books. 544 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so bad. I'm such a nerd here. I 545 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: am like critiquing all these Star Wars fans who are 546 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: like gigging out. Meanwhile, that was that was me when 547 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: Harry Potter came into theories theaters but matter. 548 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 2: So I've read them all to go ahead. 549 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: So I thought about this and this is one of 550 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: my favorite books. And I discovered it because when I 551 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: started doing personal finance, I had no idea what I 552 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: was doing, and I kind of learned by trial and error. 553 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: And one of the books I came across, which happens 554 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: to be free, is called Think and Grow Rich. Think 555 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. This book is almost 556 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: a century old. It might even be No, it was 557 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: written in the thirties and nineteen thirties, so it's over set. 558 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: What's seventy years old? This book, like literally Think and 559 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: Grow Rich, It is free because it's out of the 560 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: public It's in the public domain. You can google Think 561 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: and Grow Rich pdf. You can download the pdf, print 562 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: it out, whatever you want. It is the most basic 563 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: and smart personal finance advice. It is if you read 564 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: any personal finance book today, I mean Tony from Tim 565 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: Ferris probably to like Tony Robbins, to Susie ormand Dave Ramsey. 566 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: All of those principles are literally come from this book. 567 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying they're pulling from them. But 568 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: if you read personal finance books long enough, a lot 569 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: of things repeat themselves, right, like automate your savings, have 570 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: a goal, have a plan for your goal, look ahead 571 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: to the future. And he interviewed five hundred millionaires to 572 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: find the success formula. Now, if you've read the synopsis 573 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: of Tony Robbins's new, incredibly powerful, incredibly successful new book, 574 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: it's basically the same concept. No shade to Tony Robbins, 575 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: but I'm saying like, if you want the free version 576 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: and a shorter one. By the way, Napoleon Hills. Thinking 577 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: Garridge is awesome and he's just a fascinating person too, 578 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: if you want to read about him. He's born into 579 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: poverty in like Virginia, and the fact that he grew 580 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: up to become an advisor to Andrew Carnegie and sold 581 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: over seven million copies of this book. Like there's a 582 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: reason he sold that many. I love Thinking Garridge. I 583 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: kind of want to reread it. I mean, it's not 584 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: like the sexiest book, but it's so simple and so basic. 585 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: And the fact that you can get a PDF of 586 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: it and it's you know it really it really has 587 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: like those main primary tenants. There was a book on 588 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: my desk today I got called The Index Card, which 589 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: is coming out written by oh, another really good author, 590 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: Helene Olin. This book is called The Index Card, and 591 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 1: it's supposed to you know it's it's it's the idea 592 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: that all the personal finance advice you need can fit 593 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: onto an index card. I believe that, yes, And so 594 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: that's kind of what I'm talking about here, like these 595 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 1: basic tenants, like all these personal finance books, it's more 596 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: about finding the flavor that works for you. Yes, because 597 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: they all should be telling you some of the things. 598 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, So like spend lesson 599 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 2: you make, you know, invest automate. You're right that, like 600 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: unless some new technology comes out, then it's basically the 601 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: same tent. It's almost like like like the health food 602 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: like the health industry, right, like exercise, eat right and 603 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: eating moderation, you know what I mean. So it's like, yeah, 604 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: I mean, so what is someone going to tell me 605 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: unless you come up with some like some magic thing, 606 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: some new technology that totally changes the game. But other 607 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 2: than that, you just have to eat in moderation and 608 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: eat some vegetables every once in a while and move 609 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 2: your body. 610 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah. So I would love to start making sure 611 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: some more books. I'm sitting here thinking of so many 612 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: more that I could talk about. 613 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, me too, I'm just doing that. We should 614 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: have this book in that book, I'm like, well I 615 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: read so Mandy, it's that time again. It's time for 616 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: the feel good section portion of the BA podcast. It's 617 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 2: time for weed. I know you have a good win. 618 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: Sorry, I've went deaf in one ear. 619 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: See how many trying to come to me. You know what, 620 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: I didn't even do my hey, hey hey, I forgot. 621 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: See it's been a while, I know. 622 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: And you guys didn't even remind me. Come on, ba listeners, 623 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: make some. 624 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: More special if you do it every once in a night. 625 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: Oh really, you see how many trying to shut me 626 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 2: down again? 627 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: Okay, it's a little sensitive tonight. 628 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: So did you want to go first? I know you 629 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: had a really great win, or did you want me 630 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: to go first? 631 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: I can go first. I wanted to shout out Ray. Okay, 632 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: my girl Isray Adventures of an Awkward Black Girl. Did 633 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: you ever watch that YouTube series? 634 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: Of course? 635 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: So funny? Oh god, So she's coming out with her 636 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: own podcast. O. First of all, she has a TV 637 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: show coming on HBO, which is going to be already 638 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: pretty huge. By the way, if you're listening, Isray's friends 639 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: or cousins or publicist. We're trying to get her to 640 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: come on the podcast. Yeah I heard that she's been 641 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: tied up with the show, is what we've heard back. 642 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: So maybe I'll should sweet Atesray and tell her to 643 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: come on the Brand Ambition podcast. Yeah, it'd be awesome. 644 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: But anyway, she has a new so the TV show's 645 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: coming out. This new podcast sounds really cool. It's not 646 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: just going to be like her talking. It's called Fruit. 647 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: It debuts in February, and it's going to be an 648 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: original fiction based podcast centered around a person called X, 649 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: a football player who's gay, okay, saying it's a guy. 650 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, which sounds really unique and interesting. I 651 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: don't know. I just love her. I just love her 652 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: point of view. I think it's so different and I'm 653 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: excited that she's like finding another platform to tell her stories. 654 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. I mean, it's the Ray. It's just 655 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: it's just so dope because I remember, like I don't 656 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 2: remember how many years ago it was, but my sister, 657 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: one of my sisters, saying, oh my god, you totally 658 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: have to watch this girl on YouTube. She's just like us. 659 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 2: And I was like what, And I remember the first 660 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: episode she showed me, It's the Ray, was like in 661 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 2: the car, like wrapping the gangs, the rap as somebody 662 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: pulls up, and I'm like, that is so me. The 663 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: least gangs the person, you know, but like yeah, like 664 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 2: in the car, like you know, like just dug down 665 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: in the car until someone pulls up and you're like, Hi, 666 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: how you doing. 667 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: My favorite Oh, go ahead, go ahead. My favorite episode 668 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: is the Stapler where she has to go to Anger 669 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: Management where she like someone forget she she like takes 670 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: a stapler and threatens to like kill somebody with it 671 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: in the office, like she has one of her awkward 672 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: outburst and then she has to go to Anger Management. 673 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: That's where she meets White Jays. 674 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: We love music. 675 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: Oh. Also, she has a book out too. 676 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: That's right, she does. I saw it like on I 677 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 2: think one of my favorite podcasters, Crystal or An or 678 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: Kid Fury, didn't they like host her party in New York. 679 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 2: I was like, thanks for the I don't know, thanks 680 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: for the invite, Kid Fury. If you know, you just 681 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: let him know that hiss like he feels about Beyonce, 682 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 2: the way he feels about Beyonce I feel about him. 683 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 2: He'll know what that means. 684 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: He's the most. You have her book on my I 685 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: have her book about my night standing. To pick that up, 686 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have too many Shandon rhymes. His book. 687 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: You have to get on. You have to get like 688 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: audible or something that like, so you can listen to them. 689 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: That's true. I should do that, all right, well, that's 690 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: my that's my win. What's your win? 691 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 2: No, but I thought you had like a special award 692 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: that you got. 693 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: Oh I already forgot, since we recorded this already, I 694 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: forgot what I said. Yeah, I was like a nudge nut. 695 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got a too. I got a too too, 696 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: my own horn real quick. So at Yahoo, which is 697 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: a company with like a gajillion bajillion people's if it's 698 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: really if anyone works at a company, you know, it's 699 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: really hard to feel like your work is valued and 700 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: like you're noticed and stuff. But this week, this past week, 701 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: our global editor in Chief Martha Nelson, who by the way, 702 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: was the first woman to ever be editor in chief 703 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: of Time, Inc. And by the way, started in Style 704 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: magazine and renovated, reinvigorated people dot com, huge, huge media icon, 705 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: she presented me with a Media Excellence Award at Yahoo 706 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: for having one of the highest for having a couple 707 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: of like the really high high ranking stories the past 708 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,239 Speaker 1: six months. And it was it was really it was 709 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: just like a really special, unexpected moment and awesome. So yeah, 710 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: it felt really good. 711 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 2: You see, Mandy, you have to ask for her autograph. 712 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, she's gonna be wearing glasses and you 713 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: can't ride the elevator with her. You have to ride separately. Right, 714 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: I call you, Mandy Wintour. 715 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: I did win. I did win an Apple TV, which 716 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: I actually have no use for. I might regift it, 717 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: don't I. 718 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: Know for sure what I'm the queen of, especially for 719 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 2: something good. I mean, that's a good one. 720 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to try to pry out of my fiance's 721 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: hands because he's really attached to it, although we do 722 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: not need it. We have like three other mechanisms for 723 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: watching Hulu on our television. 724 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 2: No, he's like no, He's like it's new. Yeah, No, 725 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: we don't need any more gadgets. My win is that, 726 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 2: Daniel what is it? Holds Witz law holts Claw. I 727 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 2: know that that police officer that he raped or molested 728 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: or side of my just just a myriad of sexual 729 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 2: crime assaults aga women of color in Ohio. Right it 730 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 2: was Ohio? 731 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: Yeah it was wait, no, no, no, remember we made 732 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: this mistake before. It's Oklahoma, Oklahoma. Are you sure? 733 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 734 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: Because remember I was like, Ohio, you suck and then 735 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: I read oh. 736 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, now I'm not. 737 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was Oklahoma. 738 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 2: One of the oh, sorry, states, we know things and. 739 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah it was Oklahoma City, okay. 740 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 2: And so he was found guilty and I watched the 741 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 2: video in Verdicaster was being read, and I don't know, 742 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: it just really struck me as strange that he was 743 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: like crying hysterically. I don't know, I just like, but 744 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 2: and not even crying out of remorse. That's I guess 745 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 2: that's what struck me. That a lot of times, when 746 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 2: you know, you see people, they get really upset when 747 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 2: they realize they're going to go to jail for a 748 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: long time. You can kind of see they're like, oh man, 749 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 2: what a mistake. This is terrible, why did I do this? 750 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 2: But he was really crying out of like self pity, like, 751 00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 2: oh my life, I'm like, you raped and sideomi and 752 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 2: assaulted all of these women, and now you're crying out 753 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: of self pity. I don't know, it just really just 754 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: I mean, usually I feel bad for people when they're 755 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: feeling bad, but I didn't. I just was disgusted, honestly 756 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 2: by him. And oh, there was this great quote and 757 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 2: I meant to pull it up, but basically his lawyer 758 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 2: was trying to defend him, like he was dilligent. He 759 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 2: was a good guy. He was honest, and he had integrity. 760 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 2: He might have been a little overzealous in practicing the 761 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 2: law as a police officer, but where would we be 762 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 2: without men like him? And someone one of the women 763 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 2: said we'd be safe safe, and I just thought, Wow, 764 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 2: that's very telling. And I hope that he spends a long, long, 765 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 2: long time away from the public because he's a danger 766 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: to people, well to women of color anyway, he's a danger. 767 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: It means so much when you especially in the year 768 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: the last two years we've had as far as coverage 769 00:36:55,000 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: of police violence against African America in general, it's nice 770 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: to see someone finally be held accountable, you know what 771 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:03,919 Speaker 1: I mean? 772 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 773 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: Like we just saw this week the same well this 774 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: happened a week or so ago, but just recently, Freddie 775 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: Gray's trial was declared a mistrial. And I'm like, how 776 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: can you take someone into custody and between the time 777 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: that you handcuff him and he rises at the police station, 778 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: he's broken his neck and died, and yet no one's accountable. Yeah, 779 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: that's just like Jerry's hung. The jury's confused like those Yeah, 780 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: like very uh Liken get broken. 781 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 2: You know, I've known people who've just been standing there 782 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 2: and nothing's happened to them. Their neck has just magically snapped, 783 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: Like what does that even mean? It's only because of 784 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 2: the color of his skin that there's even a question 785 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 2: that some police misconduct took place. And yeah, I don't think, 786 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 2: you know, it's so crazy that I guess it's hard 787 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 2: for people who are not brown to wrap their mind 788 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 2: around what it must feel like when people think that 789 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: bad things ought to happen to you because of how 790 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 2: you look, or that you must have done something to 791 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: bring this about. I don't think that, you know, people 792 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 2: who are not brown can fully appreciate what that feels 793 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 2: like coming up where I have to think to myself 794 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 2: sometimes like well, I don't know, like if I say 795 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 2: something about this, you know, maybe a shop girl followed 796 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 2: me or whatever, or maybe someone like yelled at me 797 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 2: or kurstyett or call me like the N word, Like, 798 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 2: you know, is anyone going to believe me one? Or 799 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 2: like even when I was in school, I went to 800 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 2: school with like my school was like very not diverse. 801 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 2: I think I had like one other brown girl in 802 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 2: my middle school, my best friend Veronica and things would happen. 803 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 2: I remember like finding out that Veronica was like suspended 804 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 2: in like sixth or seventh grade for fighting a boy. 805 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 2: And it was like, what Veronica. And when I went 806 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 2: to her house after school, I'm like, what happened? She 807 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 2: was like we were sitting in history class. They were 808 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 2: talking about slavery, and one of the boys, who was 809 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 2: not brown, who was right, said, oh, like if you 810 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 2: if this was back in the day, you'd be a 811 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 2: slave and word and and the teacher said nothing. And 812 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 2: so Veronica looked at the teacher looked at the boy, 813 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 2: and nothing was said, like no, chastising, no, don't say that, 814 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 2: or that's terrible, or go to the principal. So see, 815 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 2: the thing is, if they knew Veronica, like I knew Roonica, 816 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 2: he would have took a step buck. Ronica is not 817 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 2: the one. So she said, I got up and I 818 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 2: jumped on him and I told him that, like and 819 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 2: you know what, it's a shame that, like, but why 820 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 2: does a sixth grader have to be the one to 821 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 2: tell a boy that that's not okay? And like, you know, 822 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 2: but of course she's the one who got suspended. I 823 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 2: mean she you know, she shouldn't have like, you know, 824 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 2: jumped on him. But at the same time, he should 825 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: have got suspended too, but he did not. And so yeah, 826 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 2: I don't think the people who don't live in this 827 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 2: skin basically can fully appreciate what that feels like to 828 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 2: know that you always come from a place of guilt 829 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 2: and have to work your way to innocence in the 830 00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 2: eyes of the public. 831 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: You know, that's that's absolutely true. And I mean I 832 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: have white family. My mother is white, and she'll never 833 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: understand fully, but I completely believe that you can want 834 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: to understand or at least be open to listening. Like 835 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: I think listening is so important. Like sometimes you just 836 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: got to shut up and listen. I've always said this before, 837 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,959 Speaker 1: like white people, white wait, anybody in general, just shut 838 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: up and listen. Like for I'm really proud of this. 839 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: At Yahoo on Yahoo Finance, we just put up a 840 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: story today, a video where we had six or seven women, 841 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: men and women professionals of color you know around the 842 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: New York area come into the studio and we just 843 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: asked them, you know, what is it like being the 844 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: only one in your office or being a minority in 845 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: your office today? And it was fascinating how different each 846 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: of their stories were. You know, one woman's like, oh, 847 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 1: I'm a Latina, so everyone thinks that I can dance 848 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,919 Speaker 1: and I'm sassy. One of the people in the video 849 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: is my friend from college, Tammy, and she's, you know, 850 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: talking about how she's a black woman, she's incredibly accomplished. 851 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,280 Speaker 1: She works for the New York Times, and she's saying 852 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: how I have to be careful not to raise my 853 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: voice or someone will just think even if I'm passionate 854 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: about something, their immediate thought will be, oh, you're just 855 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: an angry black woman. Yes, you know. So I would say, like, 856 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: you know, you can watch, you can read, you can watch, 857 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: you can listen, and you can learn. You may not 858 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: feel at one hundred percent, but you can at least 859 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: appreciate that. And I think that that can do a 860 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: world of difference, make a world of difference. 861 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hoping like that the way that kids are 862 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 2: growing up now that I mean, you can't help but 863 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 2: be injected with the fact that people are different, and 864 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: you know, you can't hide anymore in like an all 865 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 2: white neighborhood or all this neighborhood, or you know, you 866 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 2: you're forced but well, exactly like we're doing exactly through 867 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 2: your ear, like whether it's music, whether it's social media. 868 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: You know, but the year twenty forty two majority minorities 869 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: in America? Ooh, majority minority, majority, it's happening. Get on board. 870 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 2: Isn't so crazy that we have to even say the 871 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 2: fact that the that someone is a majority by definition 872 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,919 Speaker 2: means that they cannot be a minority. And yet that's 873 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 2: the word that's still used, right you know, h ba, people, 874 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 2: what are we going to do with this world? Keep 875 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 2: being fabulous? 876 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: I know what they're gonna do. They're gonna email us 877 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: at the AMM Ambition Podcast if you have any questions, 878 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: career questions, personal finance questions, Christmas questions. Oh my god, 879 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: it's Christmas time. I know we have one more show 880 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: before holiday. 881 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 2: I know it's a little gift to you, a little 882 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 2: if you know. I'd love to know what you guys 883 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 2: are getting people up for Christmas or how are you 884 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 2: dealing with that. I'm not even gonna lie. I have 885 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 2: not purchased not one Christmas gift. It's not because I'm 886 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 2: like the cheap budget Lisa. It's because I hate Christmas 887 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 2: shopping honestly. 888 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: Oh, oh, someone's in trouble. 889 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 2: Woo woo. And on that note, we're out. They're coming 890 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 2: for Mandy. They're coming for Mandy. 891 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: All right, I have a good night. We'll see you 892 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: guys next week. 893 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,919 Speaker 2: All right, by I talk to you guys later