Speaker 1: I'm t T and I'm Zakiah, and this is Dope Labs.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Dope Labs, a weekly podcast that mixes hardcore
Speaker 1: science with pop culture and a healthy dose of friendship. Well, y'all,
Speaker 1: we made a planetarium film. It feels wild to even
Speaker 1: say it now. It really does, because I mean it
Speaker 1: all started like four years ago and we have been
Speaker 1: working on it for that long. Yeah, I have a
Speaker 1: new respect for people who are filmmakers. Like, I knew
Speaker 1: it was hard, but this was, like, creatively one of
Speaker 1: the hardest things I've ever done. Zakia, your brain is
Speaker 1: different from mine, so I was just like trying to
Speaker 1: envision everything and it. It just took so much. But
Speaker 1: it was a labor of love, it really was. And
Speaker 1: TT saying, oh, my brain is different. Don't y'all fall
Speaker 1: for that? Okay. Halfway through the project, t T gave
Speaker 1: me one of those, you know, work style tests and
Speaker 1: was like, I'm this kind of worker. What kind of
Speaker 1: worker are you? She was saying, she was fed up.
Speaker 1: That was her work. I want everybody to know I
Speaker 1: was just trying to help folks understand themselves more so
Speaker 1: that you can, you know, say these are my strengths,
Speaker 1: these are our weaknesses. How can we blend together? But honestly,
Speaker 1: in this creative process, I really felt like me and
Speaker 1: the kid complement each other very well, you know. But
Speaker 1: let's talk about the film a little bit. So it's
Speaker 1: called Remixed The Unexpected Side of Science, And in this film,
Speaker 1: we're showing young folks that the things that they're interested
Speaker 1: in currently, like right now, are all rooted in science.
Speaker 1: So it feels like a Dope Labs episode, but the
Speaker 1: scope is just way bigger and it's not just audio,
Speaker 1: it's visual too, which was a lot of fun. Now.
Speaker 1: The film premiered November sixth at the Museum of Science
Speaker 1: in Boston, and so we had a really great event
Speaker 1: at the museum because we already were expanding in to
Speaker 1: the visual space for Dope Labs, and then we were
Speaker 1: able to take dopelops and then we were able to
Speaker 1: take Dope Labs into the live event space.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So we had a painting experience because we talk about
Speaker 1: science and art. We had an ice cream station with
Speaker 1: liquid nitrogen because we talked about science and food, and
Speaker 1: we had a podcast studio for folks to flex their
Speaker 1: science communication muscles a little bit. And tell us what
Speaker 1: they thought about the film. Let's listen to that right now.
Speaker 3: Actually, I gotta tell you, my favorite part was learning
Speaker 3: just all the different science between algorithms in music, how
Speaker 3: different ways that those songs get put together or put
Speaker 3: using science, using large mathematical models. That just blows my
Speaker 3: mind that something as simple as music these days can
Speaker 3: be so complicated and so science space. That's exactly why
Speaker 3: we need to understand this more, because it's not gonna
Speaker 3: just make our music better, it's gonna make our jams better.
Speaker 3: That was my favorite part.
Speaker 2: I thought this film was brilliant and fun and soative,
Speaker 2: But I think my favorite part and the part where
Speaker 2: I teared up, was at the end where they were
Speaker 2: encouraging kids and people everywhere to use the voice that
Speaker 2: they have, to share their ideas and get their feetvd
Speaker 2: into the world and connect that to science. Because they
Speaker 2: it wasn't just empty words. They had kind of shown
Speaker 2: you all the way through through pictures and words and
Speaker 2: music and sounds, so that you were carried along in
Speaker 2: that experience and felt you just too.
Speaker 1: Do you guys want to say anything?
Speaker 2: My favorite part was when they showed how sports was
Speaker 2: like intertwined with science.
Speaker 4: So my favorite part of the movie honestly was seeing
Speaker 4: more black women at science, because you don't really see
Speaker 4: a lot of dope black women that are you know,
Speaker 4: cool and hips doing science, and just to think about
Speaker 4: how we do that in our everyday life is so
Speaker 4: funny to me because now I'm going to be at
Speaker 4: work like, oh, I'm a scientist, like ice scoop ice
Speaker 4: cream and I managed, so I'm a scientist. I'm making
Speaker 4: a milkshake, so I'm a scientist. So it was really
Speaker 4: fun to see how like we can incorporate science into
Speaker 4: our everyday lives. I don't really think anything really surprised me,
Speaker 4: but I guess it was more a sounding that we
Speaker 4: do use science every single day within our lives. So
Speaker 4: it was really cool to see everybody you know, participating
Speaker 4: in their own way, whether it be sports or art.
Speaker 4: So it was just really cool to be a part
Speaker 4: of that experience.
Speaker 1: One of our major goals with this film is that
Speaker 1: we wanted to help bridge the gap and try to
Speaker 1: get rid of the narrative that being interested in science
Speaker 1: and like stem careers means that you will be wearing
Speaker 1: a lab coat and working with beakers and in some cold, dark,
Speaker 1: stuffy lab all day like science is everywhere, and so
Speaker 1: that's really what we wanted to highlight with this film
Speaker 1: was that you know, you could be interested in music,
Speaker 1: and there's lots of science there that you could be
Speaker 1: interested in. In food, there's a ton of chemistry there,
Speaker 1: and you can be interested in sports, and of course
Speaker 1: there's a lot of physics and material science and biomechanics
Speaker 1: and so so much more. And so that's really what
Speaker 1: we wanted to show. And so at the actual event
Speaker 1: at the premiere, we ask people how they were a
Speaker 1: scientist in their own day to day lives. So didn't
Speaker 1: have to be a scientist, but show us tell us
Speaker 1: a little bit about how you use science in your
Speaker 1: day to day. I am a scientist in my every
Speaker 1: day lit because I love learning and I feel like
Speaker 1: science is about the pursuit of knowledge, and so every
Speaker 1: day I.
Speaker 4: Try to learn something new and figure out something that
Speaker 4: I don't know about the world around me, and make
Speaker 4: new observations that inform inform the world for me.
Speaker 5: So I thoroughly enjoy the film a lot. And one
Speaker 5: of the questions is share how you are a scientists
Speaker 5: in your day to day and I am a manager
Speaker 5: Jerry's and we scooped by ounces and like different combinations
Speaker 5: of ice creams, the mixtures, and I feel like that
Speaker 5: also has a bit of science in it as well.
Speaker 5: And what was my favorite part was definitely the animation
Speaker 5: and how easy it was to really articulate how science
Speaker 5: is in everyday life, especially with like, you know, movement,
Speaker 5: riding a bike, even just as basic as like not basic,
Speaker 5: because heart is not basic at all.
Speaker 1: It's very hard, but.
Speaker 5: Just doing every day to day life was really amazing,
Speaker 5: and that was one of my favorite parts of how
Speaker 5: science really incorporates I think former science major. It really
Speaker 5: did bring like a nice like warmth to my heart
Speaker 5: to see it again and letting everybody even to like
Speaker 5: everybody that could be part of it. And it's just
Speaker 5: not like stay in a lab and being a nerd.
Speaker 5: It's literally every day life.
Speaker 6: So I really could enjoy that.
Speaker 1: I really loved that because since they had already seen
Speaker 1: the film when they started doing these recordings, it really
Speaker 1: showed that it helped them see themselves as scientists in
Speaker 1: their day to day I mean that one woman who
Speaker 1: was talking about how she works in an ice cream
Speaker 1: shop and so she sees how they're weighing things out
Speaker 1: and you know, ounces and things like that. I was like, exactly, like,
Speaker 1: this is exactly what we wanted. So it felt so
Speaker 1: good to hear those and know that the impact we
Speaker 1: were hoping to have with the film it was realized
Speaker 1: just then. That's before it gets out exactly the broader public.
Speaker 1: You know, when we think about how this type of
Speaker 1: opportunity comes to fruition, I think a lot of it
Speaker 1: comes from finding our people, like minded folks who understand,
Speaker 1: you know, the dope lbs ethos of science and bringing
Speaker 1: science to folks. And I think this really goes back
Speaker 1: to when we first started releasing episodes. The Museum's creative director,
Speaker 1: James Monroe emailed us and said, hey, do you want
Speaker 1: to do a live show now? I think that was
Speaker 1: our first live show. Yes, it was with the Museum
Speaker 1: of Science, and it was so fun and things just
Speaker 1: grew from there, you know, from live shows to shows
Speaker 1: inside the planetarium, to hosting and doing other events, and
Speaker 1: then we just realized like when there was a call
Speaker 1: for this type of project, it felt natural because we
Speaker 1: had been working together with the museum, both Subspace and
Speaker 1: the Planetarium for a while and it felt like a
Speaker 1: natural blend. So for this episode, we really wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure that we brought in one of our main
Speaker 1: collaborators at the Museum of Science, Danny LeBlanc. She is
Speaker 1: the head of the planetarium and she's going to be
Speaker 1: talking with us about Remixed.
Speaker 6: Hi am Danny.
Speaker 7: I used to see her pronouns, and I am our
Speaker 7: director for Immersive theaters at the Museum of Science as
Speaker 7: well as the director for the Center for Space Sciences
Speaker 7: at the Museum of Science in Boston.
Speaker 1: The Museum of Science is a cultural institution in the Northeast.
Speaker 1: Whenever I talk to somebody who and I talk to
Speaker 1: a lot of people who have gone through Boston. You
Speaker 1: know when the life sciences you have MIT, Harvard, all
Speaker 1: the big schools. There a lot of great tech and
Speaker 1: innovation there. But people are like, have you seen the
Speaker 1: lightning exhibit at the Museum of Science? Have you? You know,
Speaker 1: they always somebody always tells me about their favorite exhibit
Speaker 1: and how in childhood they went to the museum. The
Speaker 1: museum has been there a long time, right, It's been
Speaker 1: there for a long time.
Speaker 7: We'll be celebrating two hundred years in twenty thirty.
Speaker 1: That's right behind the Quaker Oaks. The United States is
Speaker 1: just now celebrating this two hundred and fiftieth anniversary next year,
Speaker 1: so that's early stage. We have been working with the
Speaker 1: museum for a few years now. We've been doing live
Speaker 1: shows and before this film, the most recent thing is
Speaker 1: that we did a planetarium live show, which was very,
Speaker 1: very special and very cool to do. Can you talk
Speaker 1: about planetariums just in general, like across the country, like
Speaker 1: how planetariums impact the museum space and why they're so special.
Speaker 1: We know, but we want the people to know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you, so yeah, the iconic experiences of the museum.
Speaker 7: I always think, like what we hear a lot of
Speaker 7: is there's the lightning show in the theater electricity, there's
Speaker 7: the Mugar Omni theater. The planetarium has been at our
Speaker 7: institution since nineteen fifty eight. Planetariums actually have been around
Speaker 7: for one hundred years. They just celebrated a centennial last year. Traditionally,
Speaker 7: a planetarium is a place where, you know, and one
Speaker 7: hundred years ago, you'd walk in and you'd sit back
Speaker 7: in a seat, look up and there would be a
Speaker 7: projector in the middle with a light source inside and
Speaker 7: little pinpoint holes that would be very very precisely arranged
Speaker 7: so that it would make it look like you're projecting
Speaker 7: the night sky, and it would just transport you to
Speaker 7: another world and just get the imagination started and just
Speaker 7: it invites curiosity and wonder. Technology has changed since then,
Speaker 7: so now were able to transport people using different technology.
Speaker 7: When I started in two thousand, so I've been there
Speaker 7: for twenty five years, so not the two hundred years.
Speaker 6: Of the institution, but it feels like a substantial amount
Speaker 6: of time.
Speaker 7: When I started there, we were using slide projectors, which
Speaker 7: is like still very like old school technology, but the
Speaker 7: team there was already producing content that would with slides
Speaker 7: just create still images and like panoramas and like put
Speaker 7: you in a rainforest, or put you in these still
Speaker 7: images and these still environments where you can look around
Speaker 7: at three hundred and sixty degrees and see something cool.
Speaker 7: Throughout the two thousands, video technology is getting better and better.
Speaker 7: Into twenty ten, it was for us we went to
Speaker 7: what's called digital full dome technology, and so now instead
Speaker 7: of using slide projectors, we were able to use video
Speaker 7: to create pretty much anything that we can like dream
Speaker 7: up or imagine and create that on the screen so
Speaker 7: that we can tell these incredible immersive stories that people
Speaker 7: can come in, sit down, look up, and follow this journey.
Speaker 6: And I think that has just allowed so much.
Speaker 7: And I think in this case, with the two of
Speaker 7: you at the Helm, we were able to take.
Speaker 6: The things that were in your minds and the things
Speaker 6: that you.
Speaker 7: Do in the podcast so beautifully and be able to
Speaker 7: support it now with all of these other elements visuals
Speaker 7: and audio, sound and music and just fun and joy.
Speaker 1: I think you got to know to really appreciate what
Speaker 1: you and the team at the Charles Hayden Planetarium at
Speaker 1: the Museum of Science are doing, you have to really
Speaker 1: know what the baseline is. And so let's talk about
Speaker 1: what the baseline experience these days if you go to
Speaker 1: a planetarium, because a lot of our audience I'm curious,
Speaker 1: I'm like, how many people have been to a planetarium
Speaker 1: in the last ten years? Comment and let us know
Speaker 1: on whatever platform you're listening to this on and what
Speaker 1: is the experience for those who haven't been in the
Speaker 1: last ten years? Typically, what does it look like to
Speaker 1: see an astronomy story in the planetarium. Danny with Digital
Speaker 1: Full dome technology.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of different experiences that you can have,
Speaker 7: but typically you walk in and I should say every
Speaker 7: planetarium around the world is different and unique in some way.
Speaker 6: There's all different, like the domes are.
Speaker 7: They look different, they're different sizes, they're different angles. The
Speaker 7: seating configurations are different for us. You walk in, you
Speaker 7: go up a little ramp and then you get to
Speaker 7: choose your seat. The seats are all arranged in a circle.
Speaker 7: It's called concentric seating. But it's got this really cool
Speaker 7: storytelling campfire.
Speaker 6: Field that we love.
Speaker 7: Right, So everybody's seated in a circle.
Speaker 6: It's very community style.
Speaker 7: You sit back and you look up and then a
Speaker 7: show begins. You know, we could have something about black holes,
Speaker 7: or there could be something about we have a show
Speaker 7: that's about exoplanets, which is all the worlds that are
Speaker 7: being discovered outside of our own solar system.
Speaker 6: And you'll have a narrator.
Speaker 7: Usually it's a single narrator, the voice of the universe
Speaker 7: who's telling you this story. But it's a very passive
Speaker 7: kind of experience that you just sit take it all in.
Speaker 6: It's beautiful spectacle.
Speaker 7: The imagery transports you, takes you to these other worlds,
Speaker 7: but you don't really get a chance to engage back.
Speaker 6: So that's like the traditional typical show.
Speaker 7: We have other shows in digital full dome technology now
Speaker 7: that allow you to actually fly through the universe is
Speaker 7: what we call it, So you can actually someone can
Speaker 7: drive behind the console and real time they're flying you around,
Speaker 7: lifting off the Earth, looking at planets, looking at the moons,
Speaker 7: going beyond the Solar System, looking at the galaxy star
Speaker 7: clusters and then galaxies beyond. But what's really cool about
Speaker 7: that now in twenty first century is that it's all
Speaker 7: based on real research and real astronomical catalogs from scientists
Speaker 7: that are put into these data sets that we get
Speaker 7: to access in real time and fly through. So you
Speaker 7: think of like Google Earth you get to explore on
Speaker 7: your computer. This is like Google Universe with a tour
Speaker 7: guide and you can ask questions and you know, we
Speaker 7: can have a lot of fun with that, and we
Speaker 7: can tailor it for the audience so that it's different
Speaker 7: for us as presenters every time too.
Speaker 1: Can you talk about your team a little bit, who
Speaker 1: they are, what their roles are, and how they contribute
Speaker 1: to this amazing work because they have very unique sets
Speaker 1: of skills that you don't find very many places.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's no school for learning how to do what
Speaker 7: we do. So I'm incredibly lucky. I have a pretty
Speaker 7: sizeable team. They're educators, VFX, multimedia producers, and artists, and
Speaker 7: we all wear many hats. On this particular team. We
Speaker 7: have people who are trained in astronomy who've gone to
Speaker 7: school for it, and we have people who've trained in
Speaker 7: completely different disciplines. Aren't a few people who we've had
Speaker 7: in the past that have different science discipline trainings. But
Speaker 7: really what they're interested in and what brings everybody together
Speaker 7: is the idea of science communication and telling these stories.
Speaker 6: And then even if.
Speaker 7: They don't know astronomy or haven't learned it in a classroom,
Speaker 7: they're excited by it because they know that it can
Speaker 7: open up these bigger questions and they have themselves that curiosity.
Speaker 6: So my team there's seven people.
Speaker 7: We've got two of them who started before I did,
Speaker 7: one of.
Speaker 6: Them who trained me. His name is Darryl.
Speaker 7: He's been there for I think forty years so, and
Speaker 7: he worked in planetariums even before the one that we're
Speaker 7: at now. He's been working in planetariums since he was
Speaker 7: sixteen and so, and this is very common in our field.
Speaker 7: There's people who just stay here doing this for a
Speaker 7: long time because they just get so much joy from it.
Speaker 7: And then we have another staff person, one of our
Speaker 7: VFX multimedia artists.
Speaker 6: His name is Chuck.
Speaker 7: His parents worked in the planetarium in nineteen fifty eight,
Speaker 7: both of them, so he's been at the museum for
Speaker 7: a long time. And then we have people who've been
Speaker 7: there for fifteen years and in that order of magnitude.
Speaker 7: And we have people who just started the last couple
Speaker 7: of years who are new and just like learning the field.
Speaker 7: And both of them came with video production and animation backgrounds.
Speaker 1: Not all planetariums are producing films. You're both displaying films,
Speaker 1: but you're also producing new content that then gets picked
Speaker 1: up by other planetariums. Right, so you both are a
Speaker 1: knowledge distributor and a knowledge producer with your team, and
Speaker 1: I think that's really important to credit. I think in
Speaker 1: the past you've told me before, in the past fifteen years,
Speaker 1: you all have created six shows. Now, the one with
Speaker 1: Dope Labs we're very excited about, and we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about that in a little bit. But I want
Speaker 1: to talk about what it looks like to collaborate because
Speaker 1: we've been collaborators for years and I think people think
Speaker 1: about collaboration in different ways, and this is the wildest
Speaker 1: group project I've been a part of. I think our
Speaker 1: collaboration has been so special and it didn't feel foreign
Speaker 1: to us because TT and I have worked in labs
Speaker 1: and this felt just like that, like working with your
Speaker 1: team felt like, Okay, the Dope Labs lab is now
Speaker 1: working with the Planetarium Lab. They're grass students their PI,
Speaker 1: like we're working all together. And it was such a
Speaker 1: great process.
Speaker 7: I loved working with both of you and want to
Speaker 7: talk about that because it was the creating something out
Speaker 7: of nothing or with a seed, the seed of Dope Labs,
Speaker 7: and like, how does that manifest into something that's like
Speaker 7: this visual experience and that ability to be able to iterate,
Speaker 7: Like I love, I just want to I'm stuck on
Speaker 7: what you said because it's so great, Like it was
Speaker 7: a lab and we get to iterate and try some things,
Speaker 7: see what they look like, tweak, adjust, and then try again,
Speaker 7: and that was just that whole process was so so
Speaker 7: much fun and it really was the first time that
Speaker 7: we did it like that in such an organic way
Speaker 7: because usually so talking about some of the other collaborations
Speaker 7: that we've had, we do we start from scripts, we
Speaker 7: start from like it's a very linear there's still room
Speaker 7: for creativity and for freedom and for trying things and
Speaker 7: for iterating, but it's more along this like linear path.
Speaker 7: We know the story we want to tell and we
Speaker 7: kind of just start to write it and then we
Speaker 7: map it out. This we decided to go to Oklahoma
Speaker 7: in the last six weeks of production, and then two
Speaker 7: weeks later we're in Oklahoma and our cinematographer is like
Speaker 7: in a field with sticks that I didn't know what
Speaker 7: those were, right, And like, I just I loved the process,
Speaker 7: collaboration and being able to figure it out on the fly,
Speaker 7: and just for us, it was really important that we
Speaker 7: were following your vision the whole time, and that so
Speaker 7: if you any ideas that you had bucking Broncos, sure,
Speaker 7: let's let's let's go for it, because that's never been
Speaker 7: done before and it tells the story and it's going
Speaker 7: to surprise people in a way that is going to
Speaker 7: engage them and get their attention, and that is what
Speaker 7: we're hoping for.
Speaker 1: I always go back to the moment where this was
Speaker 1: presented to us as a possibility when we were applying
Speaker 1: for the grant from NASA, and I was just so
Speaker 1: blown away that we were even thought of for something
Speaker 1: like this. This was just not on my bingo card
Speaker 1: when it came to like Dope Labs and building the
Speaker 1: Dope Labs ecosystem. I never in a million years what
Speaker 1: I thought I would be co producing a film with Zakia.
Speaker 1: But I'm curious how you approach it and like what
Speaker 1: made you say this would be a great project for
Speaker 1: TT and Zakiya.
Speaker 6: Well, for that part, we had been following you.
Speaker 7: I know, we had been at events that you'd had
Speaker 7: at the museum before this project, and the two of
Speaker 7: you are just incredible science communicators and the energy that
Speaker 7: you have in the podcast and that just together and
Speaker 7: telling those stories to be able to like bring that
Speaker 7: into the planetary and we already knew that was going
Speaker 7: to be something magical because it's so different from that
Speaker 7: single voice, right to have the two of you engaging
Speaker 7: together and having fun together brings the audience into the
Speaker 7: story in a way that just isn't hasn't really been done.
Speaker 7: I don't know why, and I'm hoping that this will
Speaker 7: start a trend and let's have other people try it more.
Speaker 1: We went to Don'tfest with which is a planetarium and
Speaker 1: immersive film conference where people are showing what's new, what's next,
Speaker 1: what's happening in the field. And for anybody thinks that
Speaker 1: planetarium films are just like this niche only looking at astronomy.
Speaker 1: Only people who are super nerded out are into this.
Speaker 1: The United States Space Force has a planetarium film that
Speaker 1: is in the way. We have a navy and an army.
Speaker 1: We have a group of not planeteers, I don't know
Speaker 1: what they're called, but that's Captain Planet in them, Captain
Speaker 1: Planet and all of his friends. We have a defense
Speaker 1: team that has been built and is monitoring space on
Speaker 1: behalf of the United States. So the United States Space
Speaker 1: Force created a planetarium film. When we saw that film
Speaker 1: at Domefest West, I said, this looks very, very different
Speaker 1: from the things that I've seen before, and I want
Speaker 1: you to tell us, like, what do you see that
Speaker 1: was different the adoption of that type of technology, But
Speaker 1: your team has done now and how you see what's
Speaker 1: ahead for evolving filmmaking.
Speaker 6: In the dome I think, yeah, I remember that film.
Speaker 7: I also remember the one with the trees where it
Speaker 7: was like just the journey of a tree in the
Speaker 7: forest that becomes a violin.
Speaker 6: Who would have thought.
Speaker 7: That a story like that is going to be told
Speaker 7: on plane term. So I think that there's evolutions in
Speaker 7: the storytelling. There's evolutions, and I think this show is
Speaker 7: such a big part of that because there were so
Speaker 7: many things that we tried just from the storytelling angle,
Speaker 7: like having two narrators, having both of you on screen
Speaker 7: for part of it, doing so much live action filming
Speaker 7: as we did that is really really really new and
Speaker 7: novel for the field, and so I'm excited about that.
Speaker 7: And then for the tech that's also getting better and better,
Speaker 7: like the video production technology, the cameras that are being
Speaker 7: used we did live action filming, as screens and projection
Speaker 7: technology get better in planetariums and now a lot of
Speaker 7: domes are thinking about there's a few that have already
Speaker 7: gone and many more that are coming online to go
Speaker 7: to LED technology. And LED technology is going to like
Speaker 7: show every visual flaw right, So because it's there bright,
Speaker 7: it's many pixels, it's a lot of lumens and lot
Speaker 7: of light, and you see all the every artifact, so
Speaker 7: the technology has to catch up and keep up. But
Speaker 7: I think that being able to tell stories with live
Speaker 7: action is also something that's traditionally not been done in planetariums,
Speaker 7: but now the technology is catching up so that you
Speaker 7: can tell stories about people, not just about space. Space
Speaker 7: is awesome, there's room for that too, but we can
Speaker 7: tell stories about the people, which just adds now so
Speaker 7: much humanity to the experience that you're getting inside the space.
Speaker 6: And now it's like.
Speaker 7: We can have Anie a Khon, which is one of
Speaker 7: our artists in the film, telling his story about how
Speaker 7: his process works and seeing his artwork come to life
Speaker 7: in front of us, like from his sketchbooks and from
Speaker 7: his murals.
Speaker 6: We can bring that in a way that people weren't
Speaker 6: able to experience before.
Speaker 7: So the tech will always, i think, be secondary and
Speaker 7: supportive to the story, but the tech definitely allows us
Speaker 7: to tell stories that we were never able to tell before.
Speaker 7: I just couldn't be happier with how it came out.
Speaker 7: I hope the two of you feel the same.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely. This has been such a rewarding experience and
Speaker 1: seeing all of our ideas come to life has been
Speaker 1: amazing and We've really as always loved working with your team.
Speaker 1: So I guess what's next for this film is we're
Speaker 1: hoping to have it rolled out across the country to
Speaker 1: planetariums and museums anywhere where you can watch it. We
Speaker 1: want to have it in front of folks and have
Speaker 1: you all who are listening to this be able to
Speaker 1: see it. If you're in the Boston area, you can
Speaker 1: see it right now, yes, at the Museum of Science.
Speaker 1: And if you're not in the Boston area and you
Speaker 1: have a local museum or planetarium, tell them you want
Speaker 1: to see it. It's digital, we can send it as always.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Danny. You've been so incredibly patient,
Speaker 1: so willing to explore with us and really appreciated our
Speaker 1: not for the faint of heart, process of ideation, storytelling ventures.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't trade them for anything, and they were meant
Speaker 7: to be. Like the show is such a great compilation
Speaker 7: of all of these incredible ideas and it's a great experience.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for choosing us and making
Speaker 1: it happen. I think we also want to thank the
Speaker 1: folks who supported this, so the Simons Foundation and Science
Speaker 1: Sandbox there, NASA and the Charles Hayden Planetarium Foundation and
Speaker 1: the Museum of Science. So yes, I mean it takes
Speaker 1: a village that was our village to make this happen.
Speaker 1: So you may be wondering, how can I see this?
Speaker 1: If I want to see this, Well, if you are
Speaker 1: in the Boston area, please go to the Museum of Science.
Speaker 1: Remix is being shown there and you can see it
Speaker 1: in a full dome space. But our really big hope
Speaker 1: and what we're pushing for is that next year, so
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, that this film will be rolled
Speaker 1: out to planetariums and science spaces across the country. And
Speaker 1: as that is happening, we will be letting all of
Speaker 1: you all know. So if it's coming to an area
Speaker 1: near you, make sure you're locked in with us on Instagram,
Speaker 1: on X and right here on the podcast. And if
Speaker 1: it's not coming to you, tell the people you want
Speaker 1: Tell the people. Yeah, definitely tell the people. Tell the
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