WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Camp Battles to Watch 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:09.799 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:20.160 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lounge, 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:24.880 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:30.560 Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCray, and NEWI Scrugs 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:37.640 here we are back on the Players Lounge. He's been 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:41.959 far too long, far too long, technical difficulties. I will 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.720 take the blame me, my fault. That's why we are 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.880 late today. So I'm gonna jump on that grenae. Okay, 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:50.479 I'm gonna be a team player and be a quarterback 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:53.400 and jump on that grenae and say to me so 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.920 thank you for sticking in there. It's been far too 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:00.560 long since Barry Church, Danny McCray and I knew he 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:02.280 Scruggs had a chance to talk to you. Now. The 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:04.720 Players Line is about these two fellows who played for 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.600 the Dallas Cowboys, Danny McCray and Barry Church. So Barry, 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:10.720 it's good to have you back. I'm gonna let you 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:12.640 go ahead with your own personal state of the union 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:20.760 as we've got the show back in order. I have 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:23.800 some Cowboys football to be exact, and I mean it's 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:25.320 just it's just a great feeling to be back. I mean, 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.240 we've been doing nothing for the past couple of months, 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:29.800 learning new trades here and there, but it feels great 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:31.399 to be back talking ball with you boys. So I'm 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:37.360 ready to get it started. McCray, I'm a second that man. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:41.399 I'm ecstatic. I'm ecstatic we get to talk about football. 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:43.920 We've been locked down in quarantine for a while so 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.720 just kind of looking for different things to do, and 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:48.600 now we got the players lowns back, so man, let's 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:50.720 get this thing rolling. And I still haven't got my 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:54.960 dinner from from News, but I understand why why you're late. 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:57.840 Thank you that I'm not late. I'm not late at all. 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.480 It's been quarantine time and missus mccraig is expecting a 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:03.360 little one, so you and I don't need to be 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:06.120 out face to face having dinner. So I'm not late. 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.200 We just had to postpone it, okay because Dak did 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:14.080 not sign the long term contract as expected, and uh yeah, yeah, 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.000 so I owe you. I owe you some grub peple. 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.960 Let's talk about the first camp practice for the Cowboys here, fellas, 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.359 because Mike McCarthy got the guys out this morning at 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:27.520 eight am. Ninety degrees at the star at Frisco. Let's 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:31.040 start right out of the bat here with one CD Lamb, 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:34.240 the Cowboys first round draft pick, taking number seventeen overall. 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.640 He opened up at the slot wide receiver position. He 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.959 ended up with a one handed grab that was very nice. 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:42.600 If you haven't seen it, going over to my Twitter 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:47.000 page Unwis scrubs, any Wy Scruggs or Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.080 I put the picture up there, So fellas, your thoughts 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:52.760 start with you first, Danny Cede Lamb opening up at 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.799 that slot receiver with the stars. Yeah, man, I think 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:57.680 that's smart, and I also think that's the only place 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.800 that he fits. Um Gallop, you know, proved itself that 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.919 he's capable of being being a top receiver last season, 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:05.920 and we know Mark Cooper was going to be on 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.800 the outside, so you know, it's natural for CD to 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.320 be in the slot. And so I think him starting 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:13.320 out there and being able to learn that position and 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.000 seeing what McCarthy wants him to do and how he 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:19.240 can be a playmaker is real good for them with 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.640 this open and practice. And it's great that he may 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:23.160 made that one hand catch, but I just want to 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:28.280 see it with those pads on. Man, it's a different game. Barry, Yeah, yeah, 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.560 I gotta agree with Daniel hundred percent of this one. 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.359 I feel as though the slot position is the spot 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.440 that CD's gonna learn for at least his rookie season. 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.640 Like you said, you got Gallop out there who emerged 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:39.920 as a as a great number two receiver out there 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.680 who over a thousand yards, had multiple touchdowns. He played 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.040 great last year. Hopefully he can duplicate that. And then 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.000 obviously we have our number one we've paid a boat 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:49.520 to on the money money too, and Mark Cooper out there. 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:51.440 So this is a place that CD was gonna fit. 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.240 I don't think it's the easiest position for a rookie 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.560 receiver to come in and transition into the NFL. It's 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.520 a slot. I mean, you got to be a very intelligent, 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.119 very quarterback friendly receiver when you're in a slot because 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:02.880 you gotta figure out where those zones are, where to 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.480 sit down in between the zones and making your your 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.040 position pretty much open for the quarterback. So it's kind 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:09.760 of just having a second quarterback out there, kind of 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:11.280 like the tight end position. So it has to be 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.400 extremely intelligent. So it's not going to be the easiest 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.440 transition as playing rad receiver outside. But I think he 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.120 can do it. And with his talent as we've seen 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:19.840 yesterday with that one day heard today with that one 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.440 hand and catch. I mean, he has all the talent 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:22.640 in the world. Let's just see if he can do 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.520 it with the pads on. All right, some other camp notes. 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.760 Here's the Cowboys hit there had their first practice. Or 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:31.200 to Mike McCarthy right tackle Al Collins, he didn't practice. 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.880 He was off to the side, so Wyatt Miller was 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:38.040 the first team right starter. There no cam irving your 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.159 thoughts on Collins not being there to practice but working 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:45.560 out on the side. Yeah, I don't think. I don't 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.080 think it's that big of a big of a deal. 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.080 I man, it's practice number one. They don't really have 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.520 pads on. It's really a footwork thing that's going on 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.560 right now. So if there's any reason for him to 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.520 be safe and get in shape and make sure everything 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:00.000 is loose enough for him to compete at a high level, 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:02.760 don't take a risk on it. It's day one, So 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.080 I don't see it being a big deal, and it's 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.919 probably good for those backup guys to get get a 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.440 look at the first team reps anyways, because we all 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:12.080 know what Lyle can do once he gets on the 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:15.320 field as a start. Yeah, I agree with you there 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.680 once again. I mean, we all know Lyle's a he's 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:19.440 a Pro Bowl caliber player. I think he should have 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.680 made it last year. But he's a Pro Bowl caliber player. 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.160 And it's day one, Like you said, there's no pass. 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.240 They're kind of just installing or just getting in the 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.240 in the float of the rhythm of things. I mean 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.440 they just got back into camp there, you know, pretty 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.359 much just filling each other out right now. So if 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:33.839 there's any time for him to you know, get a 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.600 couple of wins printing or get get some extra conditioning 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.400 in since he's not practicing, this would be the best 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.479 time to do it before they get into the whole 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.039 nooks and crannies of the of the new offense putting 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:44.760 in and how he wants to block and how different 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.520 schemes need to be au solved. I think this is 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.800 an opportunity for him to get some extra cardio in 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.919 and um pretty much you know, get it in early 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:53.520 so it's not a big deal later on as a 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.720 camp progressive. Let's stay with the offensive line. Mike McCarthy 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.560 this week in the Cowboys State of the un said 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.600 that car Williams was slowly working his way back, but 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.280 here it is first practice. Carter Williams was out there 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.159 with the first team in left guard and then Joe 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:11.320 Looney ended up being the starting center right there, So, Danny, 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.679 what do we make of that? Right there? Here's here's 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:15.760 the coach saying, Carter Williams is going to be out 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:17.440 here at all season knee surgery, and there he is 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.280 right there, ready to go. I'll tell you this, The 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:25.000 pandemic and COVID has changed changed these things. If this 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:26.719 was a normal camp, and it was and it was 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.560 starting on time, and McCarthy said that, you could take 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:33.760 it at face value, right, you would understand that they're 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:35.560 going out there, they're probably going to be moving fast 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.039 and he needs to slow down coming off that knee surgery. 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.160 But with it being as slow as it is and 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.359 walk through pace and moving slow and no pass I 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:45.400 don't think. I don't think it's a big worry for him. 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.320 So if he can go out there and he felt 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:48.880 like he could get those reps and just get the 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.080 movements in, then I think he'll be okay, but once 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.240 they start moving a little faster, I think that's when 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:58.360 you'll see McCarthy kind of limited reps. Also note here 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.760 Barry Carter Williams is also where the knee brace too 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:04.520 when he was out there. H's that's perfect. Um, And 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.960 if I'm not mistaken, But Connor was injured last year. Correct. Yeah, 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:09.920 he had the knee surgery in the offseason, so so 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.680 he's trying to he's trying to get back. Yeah, he's 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:13.920 trying to get back. So oh yeah, Like I said, 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:15.520 I agree with Daniel on this one too. I mean 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.640 it's it's very slow paced, it's very kind of just 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.560 kind of more mental reps than actually going out there physically. 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.520 So um, I can see them, you know, kind of 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.840 limiting his reps, wants to practice, push his back up. 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:26.560 But this is also a guy who, like you said, 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.520 last year, he was injured. He's trying to come back. 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:30.000 He's trying to be part of that main stay of 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:31.680 that offensive line. So I can see him going out 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.400 there saying, hey, I can do this walk through, I 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:35.160 can do it at this pace. Just let me go 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.600 out there and kind of get get accumlated with this 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:39.960 starting offensive line scenes though he was injured last year. 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:41.640 So this is a guy that's I think he's willing 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:43.200 and ready to get out there as fast as he can. 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:45.720 Hopefully he doesn't push it too fast to re injure himself. 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:47.200 But this is a guy that's ready to get back 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:48.960 out there. And I can see why he was like, Nah, 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.480 I'm not waiting till the next couple of practices. I'm 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:54.960 ready to get out there right now. He needs he 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.080 needs those rips. You see somebody in the rim. Liah 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.800 doesn't see anybody in that review miracle will not at 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.480 all things and the things in the middle bigger than 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.680 he's saying. Somebody creeping up from that rear view. He said, 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.080 hold on, I gotta put this gas on. I mean there, 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.559 we've all been there when when there's somebody right behind 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.280 this and we know they got talent behind you, and 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:15.960 you gotta step this stuff up and you don't want 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:17.960 to miss any practices because there's some linker and injuries. 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.360 So we've all been there, and Connor's in that same 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:25.160 situation right now. If he was on coaches, he would 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:26.680 still be out there. And they walked through like, man, 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:35.880 I'm gonna get this everything. So this is definitely um 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:40.880 I was I'm trying to find the right word here, 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:42.720 but this is this is what's caused when you bring 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.520 in a new coachings down the other These coaches don't 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.280 know you. Joe philp In the new offensive line coach, 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.040 he doesn't know Connor Wills. He doesn't have a familiarity 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.120 with him. So I understand your point and saying, hey, 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.000 look you see somebody else behind you. They took Connor 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.520 mcgovernor out of Penn State, didn't play last year's rookie 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.440 year at all, and but here's the guy that everyone 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.199 in the building says, hey, he him play. So Joe 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:05.120 Looney gets the opportunity to replace Travis Frederick, who retired. 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.520 Joe Looney filled in for Travis Frederick the year that 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.880 he had Jabari syndrome and didn't play. Looney spoke to 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:15.040 the media said he learned a lot from Travis during 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.839 their time together, but he feels confident in what he 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.559 can do here. Do we think, Joe Looney when we 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.400 start talking about position bouts, do you think he can 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.400 hold off Connor mcgovernment who at Penn State his last 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:31.319 two seasons was a starting center there Yeah, absolutely, I 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.560 think he can. And once again is what iut. Having 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.240 OTA's and mini camp and being familiar with the coaches, 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:38.960 I think they're gonna go with the person who has 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.160 the most experience in the NFL to start. So I 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.480 think he can hold him off at the beginning. Now, 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:47.520 play play in the first two or three games will decide, 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:49.360 you know, who ends the season as a starter. But 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:50.959 I think he has a good chance of holding them 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:56.000 off just just because lack of reps and lack of experience. Yeah, 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.080 I think he has a good chance to hold him 0:09:58.120 --> 0:09:59.800 off just because there's there's there won't be the same 0:09:59.880 --> 0:10:02.320 like a regular season, and there won't be any preseason 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.000 games or anything like that to where you can see 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.440 him going and get Joe Looney going against opposite defenses 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.480 in the opposite competition, and he's going against guys that 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:11.960 he you know, he's played against or he's practiced against 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:13.840 over the years, so he's kind of familiar with their 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.160 moves and how they practice. So it's gonna be hard 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.120 to evaluate, you know, those two guys on different competition 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.120 where we're not playing that during the preseason. So I 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.080 think he'll be able to hold him off. For camp. Now, 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:24.840 when we get into the regular season, if he starts 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.480 to struggle, I think he'll have a short lease. As 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:28.880 far as you know. He might not be able to 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:30.800 give up one or two sets and then he might 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.400 give a play. So we'll see how it goes during 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.280 this preseason and once the regular season starts. But I 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:36.760 think he'll be able to hold him off just for 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:38.760 the simple fact that he doesn't have to go against 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.120 any other competition and they won't have to judge those 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.600 two on different competitions, seen as though they're playing against 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.959 the same players each and every day during camp. All right, fellas, 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.880 let's keep it going here. The Cowboys have their first practice. 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:51.520 So right here on the players eyes, we're going through 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:53.840 some of the practice notes where you die hard Cowboys fans. 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:59.079 The starting secondary now at camp today, at right quarterback 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.080 it was Anthony Brown. Left quarterback it was cheetoh A Woozier. 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:06.160 Safeties haha, Clinton Dix, and then he had Xavier Woods 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.640 and then at the slot you started with George Lewis. 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:10.880 Now throughout the practice they kind of did a little 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.760 flip flock, going back and forth. Rotating is the secondary. 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.360 So Trey Bon digs the first second round pick, I 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.080 should say, from Alabama, got reps at right corp. Then 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.800 he had Darryl Worley playing some left quarterback there. So 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.840 those two guys, Diggs and Whorley were starting the team 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.240 portion at the end of practice. So this is your 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.960 specialty fellas here, Danny, you take it your thoughts right 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:33.839 there on what they laid out there to start to 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.959 see Cheeto playing quarterback. We talked about it possibly go 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:38.920 to safety, but he gets the first run out here 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:42.480 with Brent Man, I think across the board. For me, 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.240 it's probably be the same man. Just because it's day 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:48.640 one and these guys haven't had the chance to see 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.439 some of these rookies that they picked up. Its natural 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:54.319 for them to go with the previous years starters because 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:58.000 they have that experience. So I'm not really buying too 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.080 much into the starting second in there that they have now. 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:06.360 With the exception of Woods, Clint Dix and Jordan Lewis, 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.520 I think those two outside positions, I think they'll be 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:13.160 playing and competing for those starting jobs throughout training camp 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:15.559 and probably about the first two or three games, and 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.160 then well we'll see how how the doomin those falls 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.040 in but I'm not buying too much into what they 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:24.400 rolled out on day one. Yeah, for me, I think 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:26.880 this is gonna be one of the biggest position battles 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.080 throughout all of camp, probably the most important and probably 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:30.319 the biggest. And I would have to say it's the 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.080 corner position. I feel as though those safeties pretty much 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.319 got it locked down. I know they said it Wouziers 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:37.240 might you know, switch back and forth and playing safety, 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.319 but I'm not sure if he could supplant you know, 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.760 how hot Dicks or Xavier Woods back there at safety 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:43.719 for them. So for me, it all comes down to 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:45.600 this corner room. I mean, this is gonna be an 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:47.719 extreme battle right here. I mean, like you said, you 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:49.840 had Anthony Brown over at one corner and you had 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.360 che Whozia at the other. But you see that said, 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:53.959 by the end of practice, they had, you know, the 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.360 other two guys they picked up in free agency, and 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.679 the rookie out of Alabama was getting some time in 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:00.800 there with the first unit. So on the first day, 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.000 if they're already rotating like this, they let you know 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:04.600 that it's going to be a heck of a competition 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:06.719 out there at the end of the day. I do 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.880 I don't see Anthony Brown being that number one corner 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:11.959 out there on the right side. I feel as though 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.839 he's suited perfectly for a slot nickel type position. But 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:16.959 the only problem that is is we already kind of 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:20.120 have a perfectly suited nickel in Jordan Lewis. So I 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.160 think that's gonna be a great position battle right there. 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:24.800 It's gonna be a great to watch that and see 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.960 how that develops. But I think it's gonna be one 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.440 of the most important camp battles throughout all of camp 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.520 that they're both there. All the corners in there can 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:34.520 play and have experience out there, So it's gonna be 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.360 a great, great battle out there. But looking forward to 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.880 seeing how it plays out. In Cannon. Let's stay with 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.599 the safety position. Donovan Woods, the kid that done the 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:44.160 second year out of Texas A and m how to 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:47.000 pick six of Dak Prescott as Dak was trying to 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.959 find Blake Jarvin right there. So something we know the 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:53.839 Cowboys defense has to improve upon is getting some turnovers. 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.719 And here's Donovan Lewis going ahead putting his name out 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.480 there to let everybody know he is here to make 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:03.520 this foot team. It possibly get some run as a safety. Oh, 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.400 that's huge, especially coming in and I think he's in 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.760 a second year coming in. I mean, if you're getting 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.000 if you're getting interception off of the starting quarterback, I mean, 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.480 that's already turning heads for coaches. I mean, like I said, 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.079 coming in, younger guys trying to trying to make the 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.040 team or just trying to get your name out there. 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:19.800 I mean, making plays like that in practice. If you 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.040 can make one a day in practice, I mean I 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:23.960 don't get your name rising up there, and you'll for 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:25.480 sure make the team. You just got to keep on 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:31.000 making plays throughout each and every practice. Yeah. Absolutely, making 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.480 those type of plays, especially as a first impression in 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.960 front of these coaches, is huge. And if he continues 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:37.760 to make those type of plays, they'll find a way 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:39.680 to get him in the game. They'll create some packages 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.160 if he's not a starter, or their movement to that spot. 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.960 Because the most important thing is creating turnovers and being 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.160 able to be disciplined and defense. And if you can 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.280 create those takeaways, you will be on the field. They 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.160 will not have a guy who can get interceptions and 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.360 cause fumbles sitting on the sideline. So that's that's a 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.160 great start for him. I want to see him continue 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.960 to do that. All right, You guys both made the 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:04.160 Cowboys undrafted free agents. Danny you went on from Dallas 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.520 to go to Chicago. Barry you went on from Dallas 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.840 to go to Jacksonville. When you have that first practice 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.040 and these coaches are seeing you on the field for 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:14.480 the first time, what is that like? What are some 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.760 of these Cowboys going through as they show a new 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:23.440 set of coaches what they can do. You got to Jacksonville. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:28.480 Oh I'm sorry, I thought with mccraye, but you gotta 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.560 when you come into a new situation, better being undrafted 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:33.440 or you got a whole new coaching staff coming in, 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.760 you first want to get acclimated. From me, it was 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.080 getting acclimated with a special team's coach because that's for 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.800 me every time throughout my whole NFL experience, that's the 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:44.360 coach that is kind of most most connected to the players. 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.440 I feel like every special team's coach is pretty much 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:48.240 best friends with all the players out there because they 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:49.680 want them to be able to play on their teams. 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:51.040 They want them to come and want to play on 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.120 their teams, even as starters. So for me, going to 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.240 a new team or being as an undrafted free agent, 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.280 you make your make friends with a special team's coach 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:58.880 and then you go on from there. You make sure 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.560 that you get all that teams batted down before you 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.160 worry about offense, defense, all of other stuff, because that's 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:05.680 the quickest way to make the team. Now, if you're 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.160 already establishing he's like a free agent being paid to 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.200 go somewhere else, then you have more of a leash, 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:11.720 You have more of lee way. The coaches are coming 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:13.200 up to you to kind of be your best friends. 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.760 So it's kind of opposite that way, but definitely if 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:17.120 you're a free agent or if a young guys trying 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:18.800 to make the team, definitely go ahead and go straight 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:22.720 to that special team guy. I mean, he's your ticket. Yeah, Church, 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.080 You're absolutely correct, And that's exactly what I did. But 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.800 when I left Ballast, I went to Chicago and Joe D. 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.280 Camillas was a special team's coach there, so he was 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:34.120 already familiar with me. He kind of kind of wanted 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:35.920 me to come and play there, but he did make 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:37.560 it known that, you know, I needed to make an 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.120 impression in the dB room as well, just so I 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.760 could solidify my place on the team. So I was 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.240 trying my hardest to be seen as a hard worker 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.160 and be known as a guy who study and could 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.040 pick up the defense fast enough. So if they needed 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:51.640 me to go in the game, I would be able 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:53.240 to go in there and compete at the highest level. 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.520 Gonna make a few plays. So special teams won. Like 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:00.120 Church said, but if you're already established, you just want 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.240 to kind of hold that that standard that you already 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.280 have for those coaches. You want to prove them right. 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.000 Whatever they heard about you that was good, you want 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:08.560 to prove that right. And whatever they hurt bad, you 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.040 want to get that out of their head. All right, 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.360 This is the players' lounge right here on Dallas Cowboys 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.440 dot COM's continue with the camp notice. Mike McCarthy held 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.520 his first practice at the Star in Frisco, and they 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:22.200 held at eight am outside ninety degrees. Already the North Texas. 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.280 He is, it'll get to you. We touched on special teams. 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.280 Let's continue there. So Cedric Wilson and Cede Lamb were 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:33.520 taking punts. Cede Lamb had fifty four punts that he 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.639 returned at Oklahoma University. So I'm gonna start with you 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.160 on this one, mccraig, What do you think that says? 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:41.639 And can you think we can have anyone else in 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:43.920 the mix when it comes to who will be the 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:48.439 punk returner for the Cowboys? No, I think this position 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.159 is his as long as he gets out there and 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.520 he's able to catch catch those punts and not make 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:57.040