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Speaker 1: here we are back on the Players Lounge. He's been
Speaker 1: far too long, far too long, technical difficulties. I will
Speaker 1: take the blame me, my fault. That's why we are
Speaker 1: late today. So I'm gonna jump on that grenae. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a team player and be a quarterback
Speaker 1: and jump on that grenae and say to me so
Speaker 1: thank you for sticking in there. It's been far too
Speaker 1: long since Barry Church, Danny McCray and I knew he
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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, Danny McCray and Barry Church. So Barry,
Speaker 1: it's good to have you back. I'm gonna let you
Speaker 1: go ahead with your own personal state of the union
Speaker 1: as we've got the show back in order. I have
Speaker 1: some Cowboys football to be exact, and I mean it's
Speaker 1: just it's just a great feeling to be back. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've been doing nothing for the past couple of months,
Speaker 1: learning new trades here and there, but it feels great
Speaker 1: to be back talking ball with you boys. So I'm
Speaker 1: ready to get it started. McCray, I'm a second that man.
Speaker 1: I'm ecstatic. I'm ecstatic we get to talk about football.
Speaker 1: We've been locked down in quarantine for a while so
Speaker 1: just kind of looking for different things to do, and
Speaker 1: now we got the players lowns back, so man, let's
Speaker 1: get this thing rolling. And I still haven't got my
Speaker 1: dinner from from News, but I understand why why you're late.
Speaker 1: Thank you that I'm not late. I'm not late at all.
Speaker 1: It's been quarantine time and missus mccraig is expecting a
Speaker 1: little one, so you and I don't need to be
Speaker 1: out face to face having dinner. So I'm not late.
Speaker 1: We just had to postpone it, okay because Dak did
Speaker 1: not sign the long term contract as expected, and uh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I owe you. I owe you some grub peple.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the first camp practice for the Cowboys here, fellas,
Speaker 1: because Mike McCarthy got the guys out this morning at
Speaker 1: eight am. Ninety degrees at the star at Frisco. Let's
Speaker 1: start right out of the bat here with one CD Lamb,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys first round draft pick, taking number seventeen overall.
Speaker 1: He opened up at the slot wide receiver position. He
Speaker 1: ended up with a one handed grab that was very nice.
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Speaker 1: I put the picture up there, So fellas, your thoughts
Speaker 1: start with you first, Danny Cede Lamb opening up at
Speaker 1: that slot receiver with the stars. Yeah, man, I think
Speaker 1: that's smart, and I also think that's the only place
Speaker 1: that he fits. Um Gallop, you know, proved itself that
Speaker 1: he's capable of being being a top receiver last season,
Speaker 1: and we know Mark Cooper was going to be on
Speaker 1: the outside, so you know, it's natural for CD to
Speaker 1: be in the slot. And so I think him starting
Speaker 1: out there and being able to learn that position and
Speaker 1: seeing what McCarthy wants him to do and how he
Speaker 1: can be a playmaker is real good for them with
Speaker 1: this open and practice. And it's great that he may
Speaker 1: made that one hand catch, but I just want to
Speaker 1: see it with those pads on. Man, it's a different game. Barry, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta agree with Daniel hundred percent of this one.
Speaker 1: I feel as though the slot position is the spot
Speaker 1: that CD's gonna learn for at least his rookie season.
Speaker 1: Like you said, you got Gallop out there who emerged
Speaker 1: as a as a great number two receiver out there
Speaker 1: who over a thousand yards, had multiple touchdowns. He played
Speaker 1: great last year. Hopefully he can duplicate that. And then
Speaker 1: obviously we have our number one we've paid a boat
Speaker 1: to on the money money too, and Mark Cooper out there.
Speaker 1: So this is a place that CD was gonna fit.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the easiest position for a rookie
Speaker 1: receiver to come in and transition into the NFL. It's
Speaker 1: a slot. I mean, you got to be a very intelligent,
Speaker 1: very quarterback friendly receiver when you're in a slot because
Speaker 1: you gotta figure out where those zones are, where to
Speaker 1: sit down in between the zones and making your your
Speaker 1: position pretty much open for the quarterback. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of just having a second quarterback out there, kind of
Speaker 1: like the tight end position. So it has to be
Speaker 1: extremely intelligent. So it's not going to be the easiest
Speaker 1: transition as playing rad receiver outside. But I think he
Speaker 1: can do it. And with his talent as we've seen
Speaker 1: yesterday with that one day heard today with that one
Speaker 1: hand and catch. I mean, he has all the talent
Speaker 1: in the world. Let's just see if he can do
Speaker 1: it with the pads on. All right, some other camp notes.
Speaker 1: Here's the Cowboys hit there had their first practice. Or
Speaker 1: to Mike McCarthy right tackle Al Collins, he didn't practice.
Speaker 1: He was off to the side, so Wyatt Miller was
Speaker 1: the first team right starter. There no cam irving your
Speaker 1: thoughts on Collins not being there to practice but working
Speaker 1: out on the side. Yeah, I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's that big of a big of a deal.
Speaker 1: I man, it's practice number one. They don't really have
Speaker 1: pads on. It's really a footwork thing that's going on
Speaker 1: right now. So if there's any reason for him to
Speaker 1: be safe and get in shape and make sure everything
Speaker 1: is loose enough for him to compete at a high level,
Speaker 1: don't take a risk on it. It's day one, So
Speaker 1: I don't see it being a big deal, and it's
Speaker 1: probably good for those backup guys to get get a
Speaker 1: look at the first team reps anyways, because we all
Speaker 1: know what Lyle can do once he gets on the
Speaker 1: field as a start. Yeah, I agree with you there
Speaker 1: once again. I mean, we all know Lyle's a he's
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl caliber player. I think he should have
Speaker 1: made it last year. But he's a Pro Bowl caliber player.
Speaker 1: And it's day one, Like you said, there's no pass.
Speaker 1: They're kind of just installing or just getting in the
Speaker 1: in the float of the rhythm of things. I mean
Speaker 1: they just got back into camp there, you know, pretty
Speaker 1: much just filling each other out right now. So if
Speaker 1: there's any time for him to you know, get a
Speaker 1: couple of wins printing or get get some extra conditioning
Speaker 1: in since he's not practicing, this would be the best
Speaker 1: time to do it before they get into the whole
Speaker 1: nooks and crannies of the of the new offense putting
Speaker 1: in and how he wants to block and how different
Speaker 1: schemes need to be au solved. I think this is
Speaker 1: an opportunity for him to get some extra cardio in
Speaker 1: and um pretty much you know, get it in early
Speaker 1: so it's not a big deal later on as a
Speaker 1: camp progressive. Let's stay with the offensive line. Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: this week in the Cowboys State of the un said
Speaker 1: that car Williams was slowly working his way back, but
Speaker 1: here it is first practice. Carter Williams was out there
Speaker 1: with the first team in left guard and then Joe
Speaker 1: Looney ended up being the starting center right there, So, Danny,
Speaker 1: what do we make of that? Right there? Here's here's
Speaker 1: the coach saying, Carter Williams is going to be out
Speaker 1: here at all season knee surgery, and there he is
Speaker 1: right there, ready to go. I'll tell you this, The
Speaker 1: pandemic and COVID has changed changed these things. If this
Speaker 1: was a normal camp, and it was and it was
Speaker 1: starting on time, and McCarthy said that, you could take
Speaker 1: it at face value, right, you would understand that they're
Speaker 1: going out there, they're probably going to be moving fast
Speaker 1: and he needs to slow down coming off that knee surgery.
Speaker 1: But with it being as slow as it is and
Speaker 1: walk through pace and moving slow and no pass I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think it's a big worry for him.
Speaker 1: So if he can go out there and he felt
Speaker 1: like he could get those reps and just get the
Speaker 1: movements in, then I think he'll be okay, but once
Speaker 1: they start moving a little faster, I think that's when
Speaker 1: you'll see McCarthy kind of limited reps. Also note here
Speaker 1: Barry Carter Williams is also where the knee brace too
Speaker 1: when he was out there. H's that's perfect. Um, And
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, But Connor was injured last year. Correct. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had the knee surgery in the offseason, so so
Speaker 1: he's trying to he's trying to get back. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: trying to get back. So oh yeah, Like I said,
Speaker 1: I agree with Daniel on this one too. I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's very slow paced, it's very kind of just
Speaker 1: kind of more mental reps than actually going out there physically.
Speaker 1: So um, I can see them, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: limiting his reps, wants to practice, push his back up.
Speaker 1: But this is also a guy who, like you said,
Speaker 1: last year, he was injured. He's trying to come back.
Speaker 1: He's trying to be part of that main stay of
Speaker 1: that offensive line. So I can see him going out
Speaker 1: there saying, hey, I can do this walk through, I
Speaker 1: can do it at this pace. Just let me go
Speaker 1: out there and kind of get get accumlated with this
Speaker 1: starting offensive line scenes though he was injured last year.
Speaker 1: So this is a guy that's I think he's willing
Speaker 1: and ready to get out there as fast as he can.
Speaker 1: Hopefully he doesn't push it too fast to re injure himself.
Speaker 1: But this is a guy that's ready to get back
Speaker 1: out there. And I can see why he was like, Nah,
Speaker 1: I'm not waiting till the next couple of practices. I'm
Speaker 1: ready to get out there right now. He needs he
Speaker 1: needs those rips. You see somebody in the rim. Liah
Speaker 1: doesn't see anybody in that review miracle will not at
Speaker 1: all things and the things in the middle bigger than
Speaker 1: he's saying. Somebody creeping up from that rear view. He said,
Speaker 1: hold on, I gotta put this gas on. I mean there,
Speaker 1: we've all been there when when there's somebody right behind
Speaker 1: this and we know they got talent behind you, and
Speaker 1: you gotta step this stuff up and you don't want
Speaker 1: to miss any practices because there's some linker and injuries.
Speaker 1: So we've all been there, and Connor's in that same
Speaker 1: situation right now. If he was on coaches, he would
Speaker 1: still be out there. And they walked through like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get this everything. So this is definitely um
Speaker 1: I was I'm trying to find the right word here,
Speaker 1: but this is this is what's caused when you bring
Speaker 1: in a new coachings down the other These coaches don't
Speaker 1: know you. Joe philp In the new offensive line coach,
Speaker 1: he doesn't know Connor Wills. He doesn't have a familiarity
Speaker 1: with him. So I understand your point and saying, hey,
Speaker 1: look you see somebody else behind you. They took Connor
Speaker 1: mcgovernor out of Penn State, didn't play last year's rookie
Speaker 1: year at all, and but here's the guy that everyone
Speaker 1: in the building says, hey, he him play. So Joe
Speaker 1: Looney gets the opportunity to replace Travis Frederick, who retired.
Speaker 1: Joe Looney filled in for Travis Frederick the year that
Speaker 1: he had Jabari syndrome and didn't play. Looney spoke to
Speaker 1: the media said he learned a lot from Travis during
Speaker 1: their time together, but he feels confident in what he
Speaker 1: can do here. Do we think, Joe Looney when we
Speaker 1: start talking about position bouts, do you think he can
Speaker 1: hold off Connor mcgovernment who at Penn State his last
Speaker 1: two seasons was a starting center there Yeah, absolutely, I
Speaker 1: think he can. And once again is what iut. Having
Speaker 1: OTA's and mini camp and being familiar with the coaches,
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna go with the person who has
Speaker 1: the most experience in the NFL to start. So I
Speaker 1: think he can hold him off at the beginning. Now,
Speaker 1: play play in the first two or three games will decide,
Speaker 1: you know, who ends the season as a starter. But
Speaker 1: I think he has a good chance of holding them
Speaker 1: off just just because lack of reps and lack of experience. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he has a good chance to hold him
Speaker 1: off just because there's there's there won't be the same
Speaker 1: like a regular season, and there won't be any preseason
Speaker 1: games or anything like that to where you can see
Speaker 1: him going and get Joe Looney going against opposite defenses
Speaker 1: in the opposite competition, and he's going against guys that
Speaker 1: he you know, he's played against or he's practiced against
Speaker 1: over the years, so he's kind of familiar with their
Speaker 1: moves and how they practice. So it's gonna be hard
Speaker 1: to evaluate, you know, those two guys on different competition
Speaker 1: where we're not playing that during the preseason. So I
Speaker 1: think he'll be able to hold him off. For camp. Now,
Speaker 1: when we get into the regular season, if he starts
Speaker 1: to struggle, I think he'll have a short lease. As
Speaker 1: far as you know. He might not be able to
Speaker 1: give up one or two sets and then he might
Speaker 1: give a play. So we'll see how it goes during
Speaker 1: this preseason and once the regular season starts. But I
Speaker 1: think he'll be able to hold him off just for
Speaker 1: the simple fact that he doesn't have to go against
Speaker 1: any other competition and they won't have to judge those
Speaker 1: two on different competitions, seen as though they're playing against
Speaker 1: the same players each and every day during camp. All right, fellas,
Speaker 1: let's keep it going here. The Cowboys have their first practice.
Speaker 1: So right here on the players eyes, we're going through
Speaker 1: some of the practice notes where you die hard Cowboys fans.
Speaker 1: The starting secondary now at camp today, at right quarterback
Speaker 1: it was Anthony Brown. Left quarterback it was cheetoh A Woozier.
Speaker 1: Safeties haha, Clinton Dix, and then he had Xavier Woods
Speaker 1: and then at the slot you started with George Lewis.
Speaker 1: Now throughout the practice they kind of did a little
Speaker 1: flip flock, going back and forth. Rotating is the secondary.
Speaker 1: So Trey Bon digs the first second round pick, I
Speaker 1: should say, from Alabama, got reps at right corp. Then
Speaker 1: he had Darryl Worley playing some left quarterback there. So
Speaker 1: those two guys, Diggs and Whorley were starting the team
Speaker 1: portion at the end of practice. So this is your
Speaker 1: specialty fellas here, Danny, you take it your thoughts right
Speaker 1: there on what they laid out there to start to
Speaker 1: see Cheeto playing quarterback. We talked about it possibly go
Speaker 1: to safety, but he gets the first run out here
Speaker 1: with Brent Man, I think across the board. For me,
Speaker 1: it's probably be the same man. Just because it's day
Speaker 1: one and these guys haven't had the chance to see
Speaker 1: some of these rookies that they picked up. Its natural
Speaker 1: for them to go with the previous years starters because
Speaker 1: they have that experience. So I'm not really buying too
Speaker 1: much into the starting second in there that they have now.
Speaker 1: With the exception of Woods, Clint Dix and Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: I think those two outside positions, I think they'll be
Speaker 1: playing and competing for those starting jobs throughout training camp
Speaker 1: and probably about the first two or three games, and
Speaker 1: then well we'll see how how the doomin those falls
Speaker 1: in but I'm not buying too much into what they
Speaker 1: rolled out on day one. Yeah, for me, I think
Speaker 1: this is gonna be one of the biggest position battles
Speaker 1: throughout all of camp, probably the most important and probably
Speaker 1: the biggest. And I would have to say it's the
Speaker 1: corner position. I feel as though those safeties pretty much
Speaker 1: got it locked down. I know they said it Wouziers
Speaker 1: might you know, switch back and forth and playing safety,
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure if he could supplant you know,
Speaker 1: how hot Dicks or Xavier Woods back there at safety
Speaker 1: for them. So for me, it all comes down to
Speaker 1: this corner room. I mean, this is gonna be an
Speaker 1: extreme battle right here. I mean, like you said, you
Speaker 1: had Anthony Brown over at one corner and you had
Speaker 1: che Whozia at the other. But you see that said,
Speaker 1: by the end of practice, they had, you know, the
Speaker 1: other two guys they picked up in free agency, and
Speaker 1: the rookie out of Alabama was getting some time in
Speaker 1: there with the first unit. So on the first day,
Speaker 1: if they're already rotating like this, they let you know
Speaker 1: that it's going to be a heck of a competition
Speaker 1: out there at the end of the day. I do
Speaker 1: I don't see Anthony Brown being that number one corner
Speaker 1: out there on the right side. I feel as though
Speaker 1: he's suited perfectly for a slot nickel type position. But
Speaker 1: the only problem that is is we already kind of
Speaker 1: have a perfectly suited nickel in Jordan Lewis. So I
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be a great position battle right there.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great to watch that and see
Speaker 1: how that develops. But I think it's gonna be one
Speaker 1: of the most important camp battles throughout all of camp
Speaker 1: that they're both there. All the corners in there can
Speaker 1: play and have experience out there, So it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a great, great battle out there. But looking forward to
Speaker 1: seeing how it plays out. In Cannon. Let's stay with
Speaker 1: the safety position. Donovan Woods, the kid that done the
Speaker 1: second year out of Texas A and m how to
Speaker 1: pick six of Dak Prescott as Dak was trying to
Speaker 1: find Blake Jarvin right there. So something we know the
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense has to improve upon is getting some turnovers.
Speaker 1: And here's Donovan Lewis going ahead putting his name out
Speaker 1: there to let everybody know he is here to make
Speaker 1: this foot team. It possibly get some run as a safety. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's huge, especially coming in and I think he's in
Speaker 1: a second year coming in. I mean, if you're getting
Speaker 1: if you're getting interception off of the starting quarterback, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's already turning heads for coaches. I mean, like I said,
Speaker 1: coming in, younger guys trying to trying to make the
Speaker 1: team or just trying to get your name out there.
Speaker 1: I mean, making plays like that in practice. If you
Speaker 1: can make one a day in practice, I mean I
Speaker 1: don't get your name rising up there, and you'll for
Speaker 1: sure make the team. You just got to keep on
Speaker 1: making plays throughout each and every practice. Yeah. Absolutely, making
Speaker 1: those type of plays, especially as a first impression in
Speaker 1: front of these coaches, is huge. And if he continues
Speaker 1: to make those type of plays, they'll find a way
Speaker 1: to get him in the game. They'll create some packages
Speaker 1: if he's not a starter, or their movement to that spot.
Speaker 1: Because the most important thing is creating turnovers and being
Speaker 1: able to be disciplined and defense. And if you can
Speaker 1: create those takeaways, you will be on the field. They
Speaker 1: will not have a guy who can get interceptions and
Speaker 1: cause fumbles sitting on the sideline. So that's that's a
Speaker 1: great start for him. I want to see him continue
Speaker 1: to do that. All right, You guys both made the
Speaker 1: Cowboys undrafted free agents. Danny you went on from Dallas
Speaker 1: to go to Chicago. Barry you went on from Dallas
Speaker 1: to go to Jacksonville. When you have that first practice
Speaker 1: and these coaches are seeing you on the field for
Speaker 1: the first time, what is that like? What are some
Speaker 1: of these Cowboys going through as they show a new
Speaker 1: set of coaches what they can do. You got to Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, I thought with mccraye, but you gotta
Speaker 1: when you come into a new situation, better being undrafted
Speaker 1: or you got a whole new coaching staff coming in,
Speaker 1: you first want to get acclimated. From me, it was
Speaker 1: getting acclimated with a special team's coach because that's for
Speaker 1: me every time throughout my whole NFL experience, that's the
Speaker 1: coach that is kind of most most connected to the players.
Speaker 1: I feel like every special team's coach is pretty much
Speaker 1: best friends with all the players out there because they
Speaker 1: want them to be able to play on their teams.
Speaker 1: They want them to come and want to play on
Speaker 1: their teams, even as starters. So for me, going to
Speaker 1: a new team or being as an undrafted free agent,
Speaker 1: you make your make friends with a special team's coach
Speaker 1: and then you go on from there. You make sure
Speaker 1: that you get all that teams batted down before you
Speaker 1: worry about offense, defense, all of other stuff, because that's
Speaker 1: the quickest way to make the team. Now, if you're
Speaker 1: already establishing he's like a free agent being paid to
Speaker 1: go somewhere else, then you have more of a leash,
Speaker 1: You have more of lee way. The coaches are coming
Speaker 1: up to you to kind of be your best friends.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of opposite that way, but definitely if
Speaker 1: you're a free agent or if a young guys trying
Speaker 1: to make the team, definitely go ahead and go straight
Speaker 1: to that special team guy. I mean, he's your ticket. Yeah, Church,
Speaker 1: You're absolutely correct, And that's exactly what I did. But
Speaker 1: when I left Ballast, I went to Chicago and Joe D.
Speaker 1: Camillas was a special team's coach there, so he was
Speaker 1: already familiar with me. He kind of kind of wanted
Speaker 1: me to come and play there, but he did make
Speaker 1: it known that, you know, I needed to make an
Speaker 1: impression in the dB room as well, just so I
Speaker 1: could solidify my place on the team. So I was
Speaker 1: trying my hardest to be seen as a hard worker
Speaker 1: and be known as a guy who study and could
Speaker 1: pick up the defense fast enough. So if they needed
Speaker 1: me to go in the game, I would be able
Speaker 1: to go in there and compete at the highest level.
Speaker 1: Gonna make a few plays. So special teams won. Like
Speaker 1: Church said, but if you're already established, you just want
Speaker 1: to kind of hold that that standard that you already
Speaker 1: have for those coaches. You want to prove them right.
Speaker 1: Whatever they heard about you that was good, you want
Speaker 1: to prove that right. And whatever they hurt bad, you
Speaker 1: want to get that out of their head. All right,
Speaker 1: This is the players' lounge right here on Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot COM's continue with the camp notice. Mike McCarthy held
Speaker 1: his first practice at the Star in Frisco, and they
Speaker 1: held at eight am outside ninety degrees. Already the North Texas.
Speaker 1: He is, it'll get to you. We touched on special teams.
Speaker 1: Let's continue there. So Cedric Wilson and Cede Lamb were
Speaker 1: taking punts. Cede Lamb had fifty four punts that he
Speaker 1: returned at Oklahoma University. So I'm gonna start with you
Speaker 1: on this one, mccraig, What do you think that says?
Speaker 1: And can you think we can have anyone else in
Speaker 1: the mix when it comes to who will be the
Speaker 1: punk returner for the Cowboys? No, I think this position
Speaker 1: is his as long as he gets out there and
Speaker 1: he's able to catch catch those punts and not make
Speaker 1: big mistakes. I think this spot is his fun of
Speaker 1: taking the difference between him and we had with Das
Speaker 1: back in twenty ten when Davis was returning those punts.
Speaker 1: Is Daz was like set out to be our number
Speaker 1: one receiver. He wasn't the slot guy. Cedee Lamb will
Speaker 1: be the number three receiver, so he will be looking
Speaker 1: for more opportunities to get the balls in the ball
Speaker 1: in his hands, and this is the perfect opportunity. So
Speaker 1: I think he'll be out there, this is his position.
Speaker 1: Any other guy who's competing will probably be out there
Speaker 1: for safe punts, just the fair catch. But you can
Speaker 1: see the big time plays and the big time opportunities
Speaker 1: giving the Cdee Lamb in the punt game, punt return game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think this is I think this is Taylor made
Speaker 1: for him. You're one hundred percent prec when you said
Speaker 1: like the difference between Deaz when he was returning. I
Speaker 1: think he had like three or four touchdowns return during
Speaker 1: that rookie campaign, But the difference was he was our
Speaker 1: bona fide number one. He was a guy at a
Speaker 1: we'd rather have him making big plays on offense than
Speaker 1: we'd rather him returning punts. But he just went out
Speaker 1: there and wanted to do it anyways, and he was
Speaker 1: spectacular at it. But cde lamb Ry here, he'll be
Speaker 1: that number three option, I think at the slot, and
Speaker 1: that'll give him more opportunity to go back there and
Speaker 1: be he won't be asked fatigue to go back there
Speaker 1: and return punts. Returning that's a dangerous game back there.
Speaker 1: He's got guys flying at you one hundred miles an hour,
Speaker 1: and hopefully guys in front of you are picking up
Speaker 1: their blocks. But I think he'll be able to excel
Speaker 1: at it, and I think he'll be able to make
Speaker 1: more and more plays for this team as a whole,
Speaker 1: not only on offense, but as returning punts or as
Speaker 1: returning kicks. So I look forward to him in that
Speaker 1: role and hopefully he can duplicate what Dez did in
Speaker 1: his rookie season returning punts because that helped our team immensely.
Speaker 1: It's just yes, mine is the injury as they got heard,
Speaker 1: they snatched them right off the field, that was cracked.
Speaker 1: It's just one practice. But the media in attendance falling
Speaker 1: and loving what they're seeing from CD Lamb. Here my
Speaker 1: question to you, and I'll start with you, Barry Church.
Speaker 1: Is there too much expectation already for CD Lamb, for
Speaker 1: someone who will not have any preseason games to play
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be thrown out there right away to
Speaker 1: start their NFL career against the La Rams. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: I think for me personally, I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure and I'm gonna say a little bit too
Speaker 1: much pressure put on cde Lamb, and a lot of
Speaker 1: it is kind of is kind of brought on by himself.
Speaker 1: I mean him choosing to where the eighty eight, and
Speaker 1: then that brought even more pressure because that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's Michael Irvin. Then you get the or Drew Pierson,
Speaker 1: Then you got the Michael Irvins, then you got the
Speaker 1: there's perhaps and now and now we're sitting with cde
Speaker 1: Lamb with the eighty eight and he has to represent
Speaker 1: that jersey as well. Then you got going out. I'm
Speaker 1: here in reports of oh, we're gonna have three one
Speaker 1: thousand yard receivers this season because of our receiving corps
Speaker 1: is so dangerous, and you know they have the potential
Speaker 1: to do that. But then you also got Blake Jarwin,
Speaker 1: who you just gave him all that money to you
Speaker 1: got Zeke in the backfield. If you gave all that money,
Speaker 1: I just don't know if there's enough footballs around to
Speaker 1: do that. But that's adding even more pressure to go
Speaker 1: out there. It's just I think he's putting a lot
Speaker 1: on himself. But if he's confident in himself to be
Speaker 1: able to get these things done, then more power to him.
Speaker 1: But for me, I feel like there's a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure he's putting on himself and hopefully he can come
Speaker 1: through because if he has, like I say, like under
Speaker 1: maybe five hundred yards and only five tubs or something
Speaker 1: like that, for most that rookie season is pretty pressive.
Speaker 1: But for him it's not going to be that well,
Speaker 1: just because of the pressure put on him. Expectations Huh,
Speaker 1: let me tell you so this is I don't think
Speaker 1: it's too much expectation because Church. You played for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Knee you've been reporting on the Cowboys every year. Is
Speaker 1: this expectation of Super Bowl? Or we hike it up
Speaker 1: and we're supposed to go out there and when you
Speaker 1: know thousand yards this thousand yards that you know, leading
Speaker 1: leading Russia in the backfield, and we're supposed to go
Speaker 1: out there and when the Super Bowl it doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: We put expectations on ourselves as the Cowboys organization. M
Speaker 1: Cnie Lamb to me, I think that I just for
Speaker 1: us to expect them to have three one thousand yard
Speaker 1: receivers and high profile tight end and Zeke. You're looking
Speaker 1: at guys who have to we have to average probably
Speaker 1: five hundred yards of game on offense, which is going
Speaker 1: to be super difficult if you want all these guys
Speaker 1: to get you look at Zeke trying to get fifteen
Speaker 1: hundred yards Russian. Uh, you know, put some respect on
Speaker 1: his name. You're looking at Amari Coople who has to
Speaker 1: he has to get over a thousand to just to
Speaker 1: prove that he's worth a hundred million dollars. You got
Speaker 1: Gallops who's still fighting it to prove that he can
Speaker 1: do it. Uh. In a second year. It's it's a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on out there, man, So I
Speaker 1: think the expectation is high. I think we will see
Speaker 1: a drop off from someone. I'm not sure who it is,
Speaker 1: but I don't see it's having three one thousand yard
Speaker 1: receivers to one hundred yard rusher and a seven hundred
Speaker 1: yard tighten and I just don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's the CD effects. I mean, we
Speaker 1: got the CD effect. Man, we got now Dak's third
Speaker 1: place or third in the MVP ballot coming up. I
Speaker 1: need this. It's CD. It's the cdfect man. Listen, it is.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. Nwi knwi. If you disagree,
Speaker 1: we can make another bet. You know, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: see for you standing on this one. Um. Look when
Speaker 1: when it comes to the offensive output numbers here, I'm
Speaker 1: still of the belief if the Cowboys give this foot
Speaker 1: and to me give more opportunities Ezekiel maybe find more
Speaker 1: ways to use him. Allah Marshall fall if you make
Speaker 1: this thing about Ezekiel Elliott, well, the pass the game
Speaker 1: and everybody else is going to be They're all. This
Speaker 1: thing should start with Zeke and then derive from there
Speaker 1: everywhere else because play acts and pass becomes a killer
Speaker 1: at that point in time. So, and maybe you're sitting
Speaker 1: here running a lot of eleven personnel and even some
Speaker 1: zero at times if you want to put Zeke out there.
Speaker 1: But I truly believe this thing needs to start with
Speaker 1: twenty one. And if twenty one is eating, then four
Speaker 1: can throw it to any and everybody and they can
Speaker 1: really go next level. So to me, I feel like
Speaker 1: this has got to start with Ezekiel Ellie and trying
Speaker 1: to make sure he has twenty five touches a game. Somehow,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you one hundred
Speaker 1: percent on that newly as far as we got to
Speaker 1: get Zeke the ball in order for this offense to
Speaker 1: get rolling. But let me ask you a question. Do
Speaker 1: you feel as though with Mike McCarthy's coaching styleist philosophy,
Speaker 1: do you feel like that's possible for Zeke to be
Speaker 1: the at this end at its offense needs. Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: was asked this question when he got here, and I
Speaker 1: think I may have even asked it, because I know
Speaker 1: I asked him something about the running back. But basically,
Speaker 1: he's never had a guy like Ezekiel Ellie. The coaches
Speaker 1: he had up there was Ryan Grant in their Super
Speaker 1: Bowl season, and then Ryan Grant ended up getting hurt,
Speaker 1: and then he had Eddie Lacy, and look, with all
Speaker 1: due respect to those players, they're not Ezekiel Ellie. And
Speaker 1: to me, you just go back and think of how
Speaker 1: they used him at Ohio State. Everyone ate around him,
Speaker 1: and I just go back to even Tony Romo. What's
Speaker 1: the best season Tony Romo ever had for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: It was when DeMarco Murray was the NFL Offensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year. And if I'm Mike McCarthy, you go
Speaker 1: back and you just think of this guy used him
Speaker 1: like Marshall fall and everything else. All these great schemes
Speaker 1: could just revolve around there, because if you're throwing three
Speaker 1: guys out there, I mean, imagine, if you're okay, you
Speaker 1: got three receivers set and you got Zeke going one
Speaker 1: on one and ketching some passes out of the backfield
Speaker 1: against linebackers, how are they gonna slow it. They're just
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. And so when they have to
Speaker 1: start to try and you know, get get to the
Speaker 1: line and worry about the run in the past, even
Speaker 1: even Dak it can set up here with the with
Speaker 1: the run pass option, it eat. I mean, it just
Speaker 1: really does, in my opinion, revolve around twenty one, and
Speaker 1: then he can make everyone else happy. If this Cowboys
Speaker 1: often scores thirty five points a game, like we believe
Speaker 1: they can. If they're scoring thirty thirty two, thirty five
Speaker 1: points a game, next thing, you know, you're able to
Speaker 1: just drop some serious bombs throwing to these wide receivers
Speaker 1: or finding Blake Jarwin down the scene for fifteen to
Speaker 1: twenty yards. But to me, it starts with twenty one
Speaker 1: eating and making everybody else making a difference of coordinate
Speaker 1: to figure out how do we stop twenty one? Stop
Speaker 1: twenty one? Then you can actually stop the Cowboys, that's
Speaker 1: my opinion. So who we had Do we have three
Speaker 1: one thousand yard receivers this year? No? No, No, you should.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just asking. I just want to see
Speaker 1: where are you staying on if you think it's possible
Speaker 1: for us to have Zeke ing open it up a
Speaker 1: little to field for Blake Jarwin and then also having
Speaker 1: three one thousand yard receivers out there on the field.
Speaker 1: I mean, you watch LSU play this year. Shout out
Speaker 1: to them. It would have to look something similar to
Speaker 1: that for you to have three one thousand yard receivers
Speaker 1: and all those other players also racking up those yards.
Speaker 1: And we still only had two one thousand yard receivers
Speaker 1: and were going almost fifty a game. So it's just
Speaker 1: difficult that the offense will have to look like spectacular
Speaker 1: for those numbers to come to fruition. All right, Danny,
Speaker 1: if there's three one thousand yard receivers, that means Zekie
Speaker 1: La got hurt. That's my opinion. I mean that means
Speaker 1: Zeke s had a knee injury or something happened. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the only way I see three thousand yard receivers
Speaker 1: because that means you basically don't have a running game
Speaker 1: and you and you're behind in a whole lot of
Speaker 1: games here, which I don't think that's going to be
Speaker 1: the case here. I just believe if they go where
Speaker 1: they want to go. And also, let's bring this up too.
Speaker 1: We hadn't talked about it yet. We'll take a break
Speaker 1: and we'll come out here talk defense. But if this
Speaker 1: offense is going to help the defense, they need to
Speaker 1: run the football and try and control the clock. As
Speaker 1: much as they're scoring points here, they need to try
Speaker 1: and control the clock here because that's going to be
Speaker 1: the best friend of a defense when these guys can
Speaker 1: get out here fresh and tee off on a couple
Speaker 1: of people. So that's my take on that. Let's get
Speaker 1: a break in here. Everson Griffin is now the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure we waited and have a
Speaker 1: break in and dive all into that. We'll tell you
Speaker 1: when we can expect to see him and can't practice.
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Speaker 1: on Facebook. The Cowboys lost Robert Quinn in his eleven
Speaker 1: and a half sacks in the offseason. Is he went
Speaker 1: to Chicago. It's a lot of talking about, Hey, how
Speaker 1: do you feel it? So the Cowboys ended up bringing
Speaker 1: Olden Smith. But it's been a number of years since
Speaker 1: Olden Smith played, And now the Cowboys have signed Everson
Speaker 1: Griffin to a one year deal, four time Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: player with the Minnesota Vikings, former USC Trojan teammate of
Speaker 1: one Tyrant Smith Barry, I'll start with you your thoughts
Speaker 1: on Everson Griffin coming to the Dallas Cowboys being able
Speaker 1: to fill in on that right defensive indspot where Robert
Speaker 1: Quinn left. I think this is huge and I think
Speaker 1: this is this arguably probably the biggest signing of the
Speaker 1: offseason for the Dallas Cowboys. I feel, like Everson Griffin,
Speaker 1: we need, we needed somebody to replace that production that
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn gave us last year off of the edge,
Speaker 1: and I think we got a perfect specimen in that.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is Everson Griffin. He's a PROS probate
Speaker 1: in the league ten years. He's a Pro Bowl caliber
Speaker 1: player last year coming off of the Pro Bowl. I mean,
Speaker 1: this guy, he's just a true stud defensive end. I mean,
Speaker 1: he could play the run well, and he created in
Speaker 1: he can create cash rush from his defensive position. You
Speaker 1: can put him on the inside, you can put him
Speaker 1: on the outside. And to me, most importantly, he has
Speaker 1: great leadership characteristics. I mean, he was a captain for
Speaker 1: that Minnesota team in that Minnesota defense, which was outstanding
Speaker 1: for the years that he was there, and he was
Speaker 1: a captain. We have a young defense, we have a
Speaker 1: young defensive mind. I feel like he's one of those
Speaker 1: guys that can go in there and kind of shape
Speaker 1: and mold this defense into what it can be and
Speaker 1: what it has the potential to be. So I feel
Speaker 1: like this is a huge, huge pickup for the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys team and the defense does. He just brings great leadership,
Speaker 1: He'll bring great productivity on the field, and I think
Speaker 1: he's just an all around Pro Bowl player And I
Speaker 1: think it was a great pick up. Yeah, yeah, same here.
Speaker 1: I'm starting to see that we're kind of going the
Speaker 1: route of the New York Giants when they had the
Speaker 1: it was a JPP and straight hand. They had that
Speaker 1: incredible D line and they and they really just reaked
Speaker 1: havoc and created turnovers and it helped them get to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. And uh, I think what are starting
Speaker 1: for the starting for that was out there the day
Speaker 1: and you throw Everyson Griffin in there, if if he
Speaker 1: is the player that he was last year or any year,
Speaker 1: I think that we have a real real chance of
Speaker 1: being a great D line. With that being said, it
Speaker 1: all looks good on paper, It all looks good. We
Speaker 1: got we got a lot of talent on paper, as
Speaker 1: we always do, and I think the side of the
Speaker 1: ball that's going to be affected the most is the
Speaker 1: defense without having all that all those reps for the offseason,
Speaker 1: so I think it'll be interesting to see if we
Speaker 1: can translate the talent that we have on paper to
Speaker 1: sex and big plays in the game. Let me dive
Speaker 1: back into some camp notes here. So starting defensive line
Speaker 1: looked like this for the Cowboys today, Tank and Old
Speaker 1: and Smith at defensive ends. Then you had Gerald McCoy
Speaker 1: and Tyrone Crawford at defensive tackle don Terry Poe, who
Speaker 1: was signed in the off season, is on the pup list,
Speaker 1: so he was not there. So your thoughts on that
Speaker 1: front flour for the Cowboys thought, go ahead, great, go ahead,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Oh listen, I don't I don't really have much.
Speaker 1: I think, like I said, I think it's great on paper.
Speaker 1: I think the one thing that we really need to
Speaker 1: focus on is none of this matters if we can't
Speaker 1: stop the run. All right, So yeah, all the pass
Speaker 1: for us is all the sacks in the world, all
Speaker 1: is great. The most important thing to me is I
Speaker 1: want to see these guys stop the run. All our
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators will say, you have to earn the right
Speaker 1: to rush the passer, all right, So you got to
Speaker 1: make the players on first and second down in order
Speaker 1: to be able to pin your ears back and go
Speaker 1: and try to get the quarterback. So we could get
Speaker 1: six guys who get ten to fifteen sacks a year,
Speaker 1: all on the d line. But if we don't stop
Speaker 1: the run, they'll never be rushing the passer and our
Speaker 1: offense will never be on the field. So it's great,
Speaker 1: but I want to make sure that that that that
Speaker 1: we're focused and our defense can control the run, so
Speaker 1: we can let these guys get out there and do
Speaker 1: it their best at Yeah, you're right, we definitely do
Speaker 1: got to stop the run or or we'll never see
Speaker 1: the potential in this offense or this defense. But as
Speaker 1: far as that starting lineup goods that you planted out,
Speaker 1: he said, you have Tank, Lawrence, Alden Smith, mc coy
Speaker 1: and Crawford. I think that's a great lineup right there.
Speaker 1: I think that'll be more of a pass rushing situation
Speaker 1: or like a third third down rush group because you know,
Speaker 1: as a defensive line, they like to rotate in to
Speaker 1: get fresh bodies in there and fresh pass rush. So
Speaker 1: I see that lineup that you said is more of
Speaker 1: a third down situation, more of a pass rush situation
Speaker 1: minus Alden Smith. I think you put in Everson Griffin
Speaker 1: right there, and I think you have a great pass
Speaker 1: rush third down situation. When it comes to the first
Speaker 1: and second down, we have so many pieces that we
Speaker 1: can just plug and play and rotate in here. I
Speaker 1: think we have a great defensive line. But for me,
Speaker 1: it would be you know, Tank on the outside, then
Speaker 1: maybe either Crawford or Everson Griffin, and then you would
Speaker 1: have on the inside. You have Poe once he's able
Speaker 1: to go, and you have McCord, and I think that'd
Speaker 1: be great for stopping to run. I think you have
Speaker 1: those two big, huge defensive tackles on the inside being
Speaker 1: able to generate rush, but also being able to take
Speaker 1: up space, take up rush lanes, and most importantly, take
Speaker 1: up those offensive linemen from getting up to the second level,
Speaker 1: from getting up to Jalen Smith and Layton van Dress,
Speaker 1: letting them do what they do best, which is running
Speaker 1: from sideline and sideline and make play. So if we
Speaker 1: can get that deepensive line rolling, rotating in and just
Speaker 1: getting fresh bodies in there, I think this has the
Speaker 1: possibilities to be a strength of this defense and of
Speaker 1: this team, and they can make everybody's job a lot easier,
Speaker 1: especially in the secondary. Stay with pass rushers here, Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory has not been reinstated. At what point in time
Speaker 1: did the Cowboys just kind of move on down the
Speaker 1: road last year the year before, the year before, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, what are we talking? What are we talking
Speaker 1: about here? And they brought guys in and I'm all
Speaker 1: for giving guy's second chances, and the Cowboys are known
Speaker 1: for it, but I mean, it seems to me like
Speaker 1: they're making signings and they're moving on and they're focusing
Speaker 1: on the guys that they have in the room. And
Speaker 1: at this point, you know, they haven't reinstated them. I
Speaker 1: see them on Twitter, you know, going back and forth
Speaker 1: with some people and getting blocked by people who may
Speaker 1: be reinstateing them. This is just some some some attention
Speaker 1: that's not needed with the Cowboys. Let's let's get this
Speaker 1: new regime and focus on football and whatever happens to
Speaker 1: Randy Gregor, we wish the best for them, but let's
Speaker 1: focus on the guys were having the room up little
Speaker 1: up on Twitter, but they needed to be done with
Speaker 1: the Randy Gregor experiment two years ago. I mean, people said,
Speaker 1: you know, how dare you do that? He's got mental
Speaker 1: health and we need to take care of me. Fans
Speaker 1: were mad at me when I said move on for
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory. Yeah, it gonna be like it'll be Josh
Speaker 1: Gordon my bad Church. They're gonna be Josh'll be joh
Speaker 1: Like for the last two years, getting moving from team
Speaker 1: the team, and the Patriots depending on him, and then
Speaker 1: the Seahouse depending on him, and he just letting them down.
Speaker 1: I brought that. They didn't want to hear that. Like
Speaker 1: you said at one point, I mean, you gotta get
Speaker 1: you gotta let the man walk. I mean I understand,
Speaker 1: like I said, I've seen on Twitter as well. He's
Speaker 1: been going on there and talking about how frustrated he
Speaker 1: is about the whole situation. But all in all real
Speaker 1: and all realness, you just need to realize that you
Speaker 1: put yourself in a situation. I mean, this is like
Speaker 1: the fourth or fifth opportunity he's had, and he's failed
Speaker 1: these tests from sultans abuses, and I know that. I
Speaker 1: think the fear is that without football, I mean, what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen to him? You know, no one really knows
Speaker 1: without football if he's gonna, you know, go back into
Speaker 1: his old ways or kind of self destruct. So I
Speaker 1: think that's the big fear, and I think that's why,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the Cowboys kind of holding on to him.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you kind of
Speaker 1: have to, you know, let the man grow up and
Speaker 1: be on his own. I mean, and he can't baby
Speaker 1: him forever. And I mean he's had chance after chance
Speaker 1: after chance, and he hasn't been able to come through
Speaker 1: and pretty much salvage his career. So um, you know,
Speaker 1: I hope he does, you know, get it, get reinstated,
Speaker 1: maybe one more chance. But the Cowboys, I think they've
Speaker 1: done enough for him on their own. They should bring
Speaker 1: Dance back before they bring Randy Gregory back, all right,
Speaker 1: get Dans back in the building and stop sleeping on beds,
Speaker 1: and get Randy Gregory out of here somewhere else. I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear the the you know, without football,
Speaker 1: he might self destructive. Football is going in one day,
Speaker 1: all right for everybody. So so you got to figure
Speaker 1: that out, man. You got to figure out out get
Speaker 1: the right people around you. The Cowboys, even if they
Speaker 1: don't pick them up, I'm sure they have people that
Speaker 1: to reach out to them and get the and have
Speaker 1: the resources for him to get the help that he needs.
Speaker 1: But this is football, all right, with the focus on football.
Speaker 1: This is football. Well, that was something I pointed out
Speaker 1: to someone who I said, Randy Gregory does not have
Speaker 1: to be on the Dallas Cowboys for Jerry Jones and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to help Randy Gregory, he doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be here. I mean, we all see what they've done
Speaker 1: with Josh Bryth. Josh Bryth is still a part of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys team, and they have him, so they can
Speaker 1: do whatever they want to if he's not playing football
Speaker 1: to help him from a personal standpoint. But I go
Speaker 1: back to that line that Bob Sugar talked about in
Speaker 1: the movie Jerry Maguire, it's not show friends to show business.
Speaker 1: And at this point in time, if the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: gonna go where we think they can possibly go with
Speaker 1: this talent, which is the playoffs, how long does the
Speaker 1: train wait on someone like Randy Gregory who's shown you
Speaker 1: that he has not been a person that you can
Speaker 1: rely upon them nine, especially with the with the pandemic
Speaker 1: going on, you cannot trust somebody to be available and
Speaker 1: be on the field. And this is this is the
Speaker 1: most extreme part of it, right because if you are
Speaker 1: not if you are not able to have people that
Speaker 1: you have on the roster, and on a Saturday and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you like this guy can't be here,
Speaker 1: or you find out that somebody is going to miss
Speaker 1: the next four games, you're in a hole. Right. So
Speaker 1: this year is specifically and especially not one of those
Speaker 1: towns when you want to have a guy on the
Speaker 1: field that you can't depend on to be there the
Speaker 1: entire season. All Right, we have not spoken the name
Speaker 1: of Mike Nolan, and we really do need to do that.
Speaker 1: To me, one of the most important pieces of the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in their hopes for twenty twenties, a new defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator for the Cowboys. He used to be the head
Speaker 1: coach of the San Francisco forty nine ers and Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy was his offensive coordinator. So now the roles are switched,
Speaker 1: where McCarthy's head coach and you've got Nolan in here
Speaker 1: as a coordinator. I believe that Mike Nolan can help
Speaker 1: make a difference for these guys right out of the
Speaker 1: gate by just changing up the scheme and being a
Speaker 1: little less predictable. What are you all expecting to see
Speaker 1: from Mike Nolan his first year as of coordinator, Barry,
Speaker 1: I'll start with you. For me, I'm thinking it's gonna
Speaker 1: be It's gonna look a lot different than the Marion
Speaker 1: Ellie system. And I was a fan of the Marinelli system.
Speaker 1: I played in it for seven years. But I think
Speaker 1: it'll be a lot different. I mean, he's already brought
Speaker 1: in bigger defensive linemen, and you know that Mary Ellie
Speaker 1: was all about his fast quick we need to get
Speaker 1: you know, hit the gaps and you know we need
Speaker 1: to get off these offensive linemens. So and he's brought
Speaker 1: in more. Nolan's brought in more, big, bigger, physical defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: You know, you got Poe in there, and you've got
Speaker 1: McCoy also. I also feel as those hopes up the
Speaker 1: scheme as far as disguise. I feel like in Marion
Speaker 1: Ellie's system, it was mainly you had that cover two
Speaker 1: shell for the whole entire you know, the whole entire game.
Speaker 1: And we'll just pretty much do everything out of the
Speaker 1: Cover two shell. We'll rotating to the Cover three, will
Speaker 1: tating to man and man coverage out of that cover
Speaker 1: too shell. But with Mike knowing, I feel like there'll
Speaker 1: be a lot more exotic looks. I feel like there'll
Speaker 1: be a lot more exotic blitzes. I've heard Jaylen Smith
Speaker 1: might get some run off of the edge, which he's
Speaker 1: shown that he can do it in the past. He
Speaker 1: can pass rush as well, So I think we'll just
Speaker 1: have a lot more dynamic looks, a lot more um
Speaker 1: extreme and exotic blitz is kind of similar to Rob
Speaker 1: Ryan's defense back in the day. So I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a good look for this defense and a
Speaker 1: new fresh start and something that they need. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: see it as as meaning in the middle of two extremes.
Speaker 1: As Rob Marionelli was, We're gonna line up, but we're
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna hustle, and our effort is gonna out
Speaker 1: effort your effort, and that's how we're gonna beat you
Speaker 1: on defense. And then Rob Ryan was We're gonna disguise everything.
Speaker 1: We're gonna put every defense that known the man in
Speaker 1: and we're gonna run it when we see a certain look.
Speaker 1: I think this defense is going to be in the
Speaker 1: middle of that. Right, They're still gonna hustle, They're still
Speaker 1: going to try to outwork you, but I think the
Speaker 1: disguises and the way that they can fool the quarterback
Speaker 1: will be something that's huge U this season. And then
Speaker 1: now we have a bunch of guys that can go
Speaker 1: out there and play cover one. So I think that
Speaker 1: will free up the linebackers in the D line to
Speaker 1: work a few more stunts. In the linebackers the blitz
Speaker 1: off the edge or up the middle and Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: and with a healthy LVE and my guys Sean Lee,
Speaker 1: I think I think we'll make a lot of players
Speaker 1: on defense. He has a lot of a lot of big,
Speaker 1: big time playmaking pieces to work with. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: think it is dating. The name of the game is
Speaker 1: creating interceptions and creating takeaways. And if you're out there
Speaker 1: in the bland cover two looks, I mean, the quarterback
Speaker 1: pretty much knows half of the time what you're in.
Speaker 1: So if you can disguise yourself and kind of mess
Speaker 1: with that quarterback, you're already won half of the battle.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what this defense is going to
Speaker 1: come into this year, and I'm all for it. If
Speaker 1: Vintage League can go out there and create some takeaways,
Speaker 1: I'm all for that as well. Man Hey Church the
Speaker 1: church for this. So just to get into disguise, because
Speaker 1: every every defense and every defensive coordinator speaks on the
Speaker 1: skuise and it's more of when Mary Nelly was there.
Speaker 1: If we disguise covered two, the quarterback knew that it
Speaker 1: was gonna be covering two or covering three. Right, usually
Speaker 1: gonna drop down or you just gonna play that defense
Speaker 1: when you get into you know, like a Rob Ryan
Speaker 1: type thing. If you line up and cover two priests
Speaker 1: pre snap, you could be in cover zero, Cover one,
Speaker 1: Cover three, Cover six post snap. Right, So I think
Speaker 1: that's what I think that I think that's what Nolan's
Speaker 1: gonna bring. It's going to be a lot more difficult
Speaker 1: for a quarterback to to decipher what what we're running
Speaker 1: on defense. The only problem I have with that is
Speaker 1: that if since we don't we didn't have OTAs, we
Speaker 1: didn't have priests, or if we don't have any preseason
Speaker 1: games or anything like that. Only the only thing if
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan makes it a little bit too difficult, can
Speaker 1: these players pick it up in such a short time
Speaker 1: to when a regular season come around, they'll be firing
Speaker 1: on all cylinders. That's the only thing they got to
Speaker 1: worry about. But if they can pick it up, I
Speaker 1: think the skuys limit for this defense. That's why those
Speaker 1: young guys won't be out there to start the season.
Speaker 1: It'll be it'll be those guys would have experienced the start,
Speaker 1: and then once those young guys pick it up, those
Speaker 1: starters better look out and start making some places. And
Speaker 1: the interesting test for this cowboy defense out of the
Speaker 1: gate is Sean McVay and the Los Angeles Rams, and
Speaker 1: we know Sean McVay likes to throw it around. They
Speaker 1: don't have Brandon Cooks there anymore, but they still have
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. You've got Robert Woods, so it's going to
Speaker 1: be interesting. And remember the Cowboys took on the Rams
Speaker 1: late in the season last year and they handled them
Speaker 1: pretty well. So I'll be interested because this is a
Speaker 1: great test for the defense right out of the gate,
Speaker 1: because Sean Sean mcvays basically have all summer long to
Speaker 1: uh to get ready for the for the Skowboys, all
Speaker 1: defense and new Jared Goffer is still their quarterback all right,
Speaker 1: so uh, I think I think we'll be okay. I'm
Speaker 1: still I'm still upsetting salty from him being on my
Speaker 1: fantasy football team last year. So with him at quarterback
Speaker 1: and then they lost Brandon Cooks, I think I think
Speaker 1: it will be all right. Jared Goffer is just letting
Speaker 1: me down, needless to say, you didn't win a championship
Speaker 1: if you were rolling out there with Jared go I,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, had had Data Prescott and Drew
Speaker 1: Brees it's my quarterbacks and walked away with the championship.
Speaker 1: If you need help trying to figure out who to
Speaker 1: take this year, you call me, baby, call a winner,
Speaker 1: because I got I ended my scene. You know, I
Speaker 1: ended my season with Dak Prescott as my starting quarterback,
Speaker 1: and I got beat by Jameis Winston fifty five pointer
Speaker 1: with six in deceptions and six touchdowns. We all right,
Speaker 1: We've gotta's another break in here. I've got a fantastic
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Speaker 1: Cowboys reporters joined by former Cowboys players Danny mcraig Barry Church.
Speaker 1: This is the players lines. You do it every Friday
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Speaker 1: got a stat here that I really am excited about.
Speaker 1: Rick Goslind, Hall of fame, writer who's been on many
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys platforms, had this. He says his twenty thirteen
Speaker 1: all Super Bowl champions have ranked top twenty in scoring defense.
Speaker 1: In forty seven of the fifty four champions have ranked
Speaker 1: in the top ten in scoring d last year. Here
Speaker 1: your top ten scoring defenses in the NFL New England, Buffalo,
Speaker 1: Baltimore number three, Chicago for Minnesota, Pittsburgh tied for five.
Speaker 1: Then he had Kansas City, San Francisco, Green Bay, and
Speaker 1: Denver Fellas. Can this be a top ten defense in
Speaker 1: your opinion? Start with you, Dan, Absolutely, if the if
Speaker 1: the offense does what they're supposed to do, controls the
Speaker 1: clot and we get the other team having to throw
Speaker 1: the ball because they're behind, that just opens up opportunities
Speaker 1: for us to make those big players, get those turnovers
Speaker 1: and lead the league in scoring defense. So I think
Speaker 1: if all works well how we expected to go on
Speaker 1: offense with all these weapons that we have, I think
Speaker 1: this will be a year of the defense making huge
Speaker 1: plays and we will not be hearing about us not
Speaker 1: being able to create turnovers. Yeah. For me, I definitely
Speaker 1: think this team can be. This defense could be a
Speaker 1: top ten defense even without the offense playing up to
Speaker 1: where they could play. But I think this defense is
Speaker 1: legit if they played it with if they played in
Speaker 1: their potential. I feel as though this defense can be legit.
Speaker 1: They had plenty of depth at each level linebacker, defensive line,
Speaker 1: and in the secondary. The only thing that's might that
Speaker 1: might block them is they haven't had that experience of
Speaker 1: playing altogether. At the same time, you got a couple
Speaker 1: of new pickups on the defensive line, you got a
Speaker 1: couple of new guys in the secondary. So I think
Speaker 1: once they gel as a unit and pick up this
Speaker 1: scheme as a unit, I think the sky's the limit.
Speaker 1: I think they have great pass rush and great interior play.
Speaker 1: On the defensive line. They got young linebackers that can
Speaker 1: run from sideline and sideline and can pretty much run
Speaker 1: with anybody, and a veteran and shann Lee that can
Speaker 1: pretty much teach him how to how to go about
Speaker 1: their week or weekly assignments and everything like that in
Speaker 1: film watching. And then in the secondary, you're just loaded
Speaker 1: with young talent and guys who've played and experienced ball
Speaker 1: and they're still young. So I feel as though this defense,
Speaker 1: this guy can be the limit. They just got to
Speaker 1: play up to their potential and hopefully get after that quarterback,
Speaker 1: because if they can, I think they can be even
Speaker 1: a top five defense go back to you woe. Well,
Speaker 1: so how do you feel with LV and Sean Lee
Speaker 1: as far as health wise, Yeah, that's that's the only
Speaker 1: drawback I think, um lve that neck. Like I said before,
Speaker 1: that's nothing to play with. I mean we've we've had
Speaker 1: teammates in the pass Devonte Holloman who had a similar
Speaker 1: neck injury, and he was done for the you know,
Speaker 1: for the remainder of his career. So that's something you
Speaker 1: cannot play around with. But if he's able to stay
Speaker 1: healthy throughout the entire year, I think he'll he'll revert
Speaker 1: back to his rookie season as far as how he
Speaker 1: was all over the field making tackle and making big plays,
Speaker 1: and as far as if if he goes down, I
Speaker 1: think Shaun Lee played the perfect role last year. He
Speaker 1: wasn't asked to be a starter. He wasn't asked to
Speaker 1: play you know, sixty snaps a game until those guys
Speaker 1: got injured. But if they can stay healthy and limited
Speaker 1: Shaun Lee's role, I think that that'll be great for
Speaker 1: their health and I'll be great for this defense. Danny,
Speaker 1: you talked a point that, um, you're gonna need to
Speaker 1: be able to play. Uh, you guys were there last time.
Speaker 1: I was uh again, So you're going to see guys
Speaker 1: because they have the regular work of the office season,
Speaker 1: get hurt, so and you're here. You're gonna have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to play. Based on shot Lee's history. And also
Speaker 1: because what we saw last year with Lake Vanderesh is
Speaker 1: he battled injury. So if you're backup linebacker on this
Speaker 1: football team, be ready to play, be ready to know
Speaker 1: all the positions on the football field. Yeah. Absolutely, And
Speaker 1: and is this will be this is more extreme than
Speaker 1: the than the lockout, mainly because there will probably be
Speaker 1: no no real contact with another team until the first game.
Speaker 1: Like when you're going against guys in practice with paths on,
Speaker 1: it's still practice. These are guys on your team. You
Speaker 1: go hard, but the intensity is picked up when you're
Speaker 1: playing against a different opponent and they won't see the
Speaker 1: head until the first game. So this is going to
Speaker 1: be a very interesting season of trying to keep guys
Speaker 1: healthy and keep guys on the practice squad that can
Speaker 1: step up and play when when you have those injuries.
Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be huger to be something
Speaker 1: to see, something to watch. Yeah, I think it'll it'll
Speaker 1: be huge going into the season, I mean, and that's
Speaker 1: why I'm glad they brought in those kind of better
Speaker 1: in leaderships, especially on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: At the defensive line, got Everson Griffin, you know, linebacker
Speaker 1: Jordy Gas, Shawn Lee, and in the second dary you
Speaker 1: got guys like clinting out how Dix who who played
Speaker 1: this game a long time. So they can get those
Speaker 1: young guys ready to play. And it's going to be hard,
Speaker 1: especially for the rookies, not going against any other competition
Speaker 1: throughout the whole preseason and then boom, the regular season
Speaker 1: starts in and you got to be at the top
Speaker 1: of your game. And I'm transitioning from college NFL is
Speaker 1: not easy by any stretch of the imagination. So I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a hard, hard, first couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: especially for the younger guys transitioning, but hopefully they'll be
Speaker 1: able to get over it and get productive. What I
Speaker 1: was talking about that stat of the top ten defenses
Speaker 1: last year, New England, Buffalo, Baltimore, Minnesota, Kansas City, San Francisco,
Speaker 1: and Green Band. All of those teams made the playoffs.
Speaker 1: The three teams on that list that didn't Chicago, Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: and Denver all had QUARTERBA Cowboys Scott even their backup,
Speaker 1: and you don't house of the quarter position. So the
Speaker 1: defense top ten devens, the Cowboys will have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. And when you're talking about trying
Speaker 1: to make a Bowl, this is doable. Okay, since we've
Speaker 1: seen it, but I'm just saying it's doable. The defense
Speaker 1: can just pull a little bit better way if Mike
Speaker 1: Nolan can get to these guys lined up that they
Speaker 1: don't get beat by who hadn't played to beat out
Speaker 1: a month with the model tis oh that third Okay,
Speaker 1: I was there that Thursday nights Chicago, and and so
Speaker 1: normally during the game, you know, I'm writing down every play.
Speaker 1: It got to the third quarter and this dude scoring
Speaker 1: another time. Time, I put I stopped writing this. I'm
Speaker 1: about taking any more notes. This thing is I mean,
Speaker 1: this is is just done. I mean when mental Trubisky
Speaker 1: is out here bawling on you looking like a pro
Speaker 1: bo like this is a this is a rap that
Speaker 1: you know, Mayor Nelly needed to go, your boy j
Speaker 1: G needed to go, Like this is just bad it's bad.
Speaker 1: Oh that was awful. I mean really that was one
Speaker 1: of those that was one of the saddest nights that
Speaker 1: I've ever covered. The Cowboy game. I just look like,
Speaker 1: this is just this is not represent sorry baseball. How
Speaker 1: did we know? How did we know j G was
Speaker 1: coming up in this conversation? I didn't know, Like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Now you talked about defense and no Onelan
Speaker 1: and then it's the way stall away from he went
Speaker 1: Mary and Nelle and he shot up. Oh, j j
Speaker 1: G had to go to We had to get him
Speaker 1: up out of the unless I feel, you know, go ahead, man, gohead.
Speaker 1: You know it's been a while. Did I did I?
Speaker 1: Did I lie at any point time? Did I lie
Speaker 1: at any point time? You you can't tell? All right?
Speaker 1: What was the most disappointing loss of the year last
Speaker 1: year for you? Guy? Was it? Was there a more
Speaker 1: disappointing loss in the Bears Jets game? I mean, you
Speaker 1: tell me it was the most disappointing loss When you
Speaker 1: just looked at them, you just said, dang, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it had to be the Bears. It's a Thursday night game.
Speaker 1: You know, you're still in first place, and but it's
Speaker 1: slipping away, and and Mitchell Trubisky was not good. I mean,
Speaker 1: think about it. Mitchell Trubisky was so bad the all
Speaker 1: season they didn't pick up his option, and then they
Speaker 1: traded for Nick Foles, who had that crazy contract in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the dude who went oops upside your
Speaker 1: head on Thursday. But I'm sorry that I brought it up.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that I didn't have ready was it was it?
Speaker 1: Ready to play the listen, they was the play. They
Speaker 1: got fat, they got beat. That's what That's just what happened.
Speaker 1: It happens in football. You get beat. They got off
Speaker 1: the bus and they thought they was gonna win. They
Speaker 1: was ready, and then once they got on the field
Speaker 1: and they got hit, they wasn't ready in the moment. Man,
Speaker 1: It's all right. Shout out to JAYZ out there in
Speaker 1: New York. We'll see how that goes. So Okay, speaking
Speaker 1: open up that Jason Barrett and talking about to press,
Speaker 1: say about between the head coach a super Bowl help
Speaker 1: coach you the former coach who started them off here NFL.
Speaker 1: I'll I'm gonna think I'm gonna say this. I woulda
Speaker 1: say this. They probably met twice so far, and they've
Speaker 1: been doing zoom zoom meetings throughout the whole summer, so
Speaker 1: I'm taking that with a grain assault. They haven't even
Speaker 1: been around each other or played in the game or
Speaker 1: being able to really do anything for him to say
Speaker 1: the communication is that girl. They haven't had to communicate
Speaker 1: except on Zoo. So I'll see how. I'll see how
Speaker 1: what happens as the season goes on. But communication throughout
Speaker 1: the summer during the pandemic, absolutely, Okay. I understand it's
Speaker 1: automatically better than it was previously. What else is he
Speaker 1: supposed to say? He's got to say positive stuff about
Speaker 1: his new his new head coach. Oh bad. If I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play Devil's advocate here and I'm gonna you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read between the lines, so to speak up,
Speaker 1: I'm saying he said this man, he's saying, you know,
Speaker 1: it's finally nice. And I'm not saying it's true or not,
Speaker 1: but I'm just I'm just saying. What I think he's
Speaker 1: saying is that he's saying it's finally nice to you know,
Speaker 1: have all position groups on the same page. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're not, you know, officive Lineman doesn't think we're blocking
Speaker 1: it this way, and the running backs thinking we're going
Speaker 1: with it this way. And I just think he's kind
Speaker 1: of saying that, like you know, in the past, it
Speaker 1: just wasn't communicated as well throughout position groups. That's that's
Speaker 1: all I'm thinking. Maybe that maybe I'm out of pocket,
Speaker 1: but that's all I'm thinking. That could be. That could
Speaker 1: be accurate, right, it wasn't. It wasn't a cohesive unit.
Speaker 1: But what we don't know is if it's a cohesive
Speaker 1: unit now. They haven't had to do anything. They haven't
Speaker 1: been in a situation to where the person they all
Speaker 1: came in wrong, or you know, or they had to
Speaker 1: stop the clock, or they was in a two minute situation.
Speaker 1: All the communication had to be on point for them
Speaker 1: to go go down there and get a field goal
Speaker 1: or touchdown. They haven't had to do any of that
Speaker 1: in practice or the game. This is something that we
Speaker 1: will we will learn as they get into those to
Speaker 1: those things and our hold. I hope, please, please, I
Speaker 1: hope that they're able to get this stuff correct so
Speaker 1: we could be a better team than we have been
Speaker 1: in the past. So I'm hoping for McCarthy, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying we haven't been able to prove it yet.
Speaker 1: I've seen you smiling over the new we go ahead, man,
Speaker 1: go ahead. I understand that the listen players in expertation.
Speaker 1: So if the defense improve and they can get turnovers
Speaker 1: and they're not predictable, if according to what Dak Prescott says,
Speaker 1: there's some more communication going on here, a team that
Speaker 1: went eight mate last year should be able to find
Speaker 1: two more Vegas gentlemen, should we raise the expectation based
Speaker 1: off you think the Cowboys can do with this? Knwi,
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, NEWI we talked about communication. You
Speaker 1: watched the same games I did, and then going out
Speaker 1: there and losing to Chicago and losing to New York.
Speaker 1: I didn't see nothing wrong with communication. They did not
Speaker 1: play well, all right, when they was dropping passes with
Speaker 1: the ball, communicating with your hands and you dropped it,
Speaker 1: what are we talking about? They didn't play They didn't
Speaker 1: They didn't play well enough. I didn't see like some
Speaker 1: of the stuff right special teams was crazy and they
Speaker 1: had communication problems on that end. And we see that
Speaker 1: they made the change change from that, but that didn't
Speaker 1: lose them the playoffs. They didn't play well enough and
Speaker 1: communication to play the key in it, but the player
Speaker 1: wasn't enough to part from them to be able to
Speaker 1: say we're making a super Bowl run. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hold I'm gonna hold off my reservations until at least
Speaker 1: the first at least the first game. I gotta see
Speaker 1: how they how they play together as a team or
Speaker 1: some maybe some maybe they'll have some type of scrimmage
Speaker 1: on TV or something. I gotta see something before I
Speaker 1: get my reservations. But um, yeah, I think, I mean
Speaker 1: they might make it. I got them going nine wins.
Speaker 1: I got them at nine wins, so we'll see, all right,
Speaker 1: So let me let me spin it back this way. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: You've got some players, key players in my opinion, who
Speaker 1: who I think will be better. For instance, Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: in year three, Michael Gallup's numbers compared very favorably with
Speaker 1: the Mariti Cooper's last year, and the offense will some
Speaker 1: terminology will change. They're kind of saying it shouldn't still
Speaker 1: be in the same way you got Ezekiel Elli. I mean,
Speaker 1: here's another guy here who've talked about the offseason not
Speaker 1: getting enough respect. Here. If we have some players that
Speaker 1: one has some players step up a little bit and
Speaker 1: and in my go better by Michael Garthy, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's a reasonable do you say that this should
Speaker 1: be a ten win team? Now? The one thing that
Speaker 1: I will say could be attachment. There's two things. One
Speaker 1: not having enough time all seasons to work with a
Speaker 1: new coach, and then two we don't know what will
Speaker 1: happen with COVID health. I mean, that's that's kind of
Speaker 1: out of your control. But I think it's crazy to
Speaker 1: sit up here and say that this is this is
Speaker 1: a ten win type of talent team that they have here.
Speaker 1: Because we know Washington is going to have some bumps
Speaker 1: this year and the Giants when we're not expecting this
Speaker 1: thing is supposed to be between the Cowboys and Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: We know whever you year, somebody could change a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking that the Cowboys ten wins is not crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm not being a homer when I say that. When
Speaker 1: you based on the kind of talent that they have here,
Speaker 1: this is so familiar newly in the last five six years.
Speaker 1: When if you went into the season and say, with
Speaker 1: the talent, we shouldn't win ten games. Hey man, you
Speaker 1: know but we know at the pro But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just asking. I'm saying with the teller, the taler'
Speaker 1: teller when you get when you went into a season
Speaker 1: how many times in the last however, however many so years,
Speaker 1: and you said, you know what, with this talent, we
Speaker 1: should win less than ten games, all right? And I've
Speaker 1: always put up the number two. The last head coach
Speaker 1: was good for two losses a year that they shouldn't have.
Speaker 1: Too many times the Cowboys under Jason Garrett would win
Speaker 1: games because they could out talent. You but if it
Speaker 1: was your talent against their talent, and then coaching got
Speaker 1: involved a lot of times Cowboys check that out or
Speaker 1: the other teams. We're talking about talent Cowboys. But but
Speaker 1: we thought about talents. What But but guess what now
Speaker 1: you got super Bow winning coach. There got it? I believe,
Speaker 1: I don't care. I know you don't get that. You
Speaker 1: get that, Preston already saying it. The communication is better.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to tell you, man that my marriage
Speaker 1: had on zooe calls for five months ago. You've been
Speaker 1: on zooe calls. I mean he got good Wi Fi
Speaker 1: you got, That's what Danny, Are we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: put a bet on this. Yeah, that's a little you
Speaker 1: already You're already owe too. Knew it, You're already owe too.
Speaker 1: My listen, my myth that has been working all right,
Speaker 1: yours is not. So i'moula stick with what I've been doing,
Speaker 1: all right, I woulna stick with what I've been doing.
Speaker 1: I got two three meals on this four man, I
Speaker 1: might have to do I might have to just do
Speaker 1: it uber eat, But but I feel this confident in
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. I'll put something down on it. I'll put
Speaker 1: something down. I feel that confident. Okay, I do that.
Speaker 1: That's just that that they'll be able to I mean,
Speaker 1: look there, they haven't been that far away. Now. I'm
Speaker 1: not sitting and you know, man, I'm not the homer
Speaker 1: Homer kind of guy. I like to keep it real.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, when your coach is gonna
Speaker 1: get you beat twice a year because things are not
Speaker 1: going correct, the New England game, the Jet game, Chicago,
Speaker 1: that embarrassment against the Buffalo Bills, I think you got
Speaker 1: a guy here who can go ahead and help them
Speaker 1: get better. McCarthy reminds me a lot of Rick Carlisle.
Speaker 1: When Rick Carlisle got to Dallas and started coaching the Marriage.
Speaker 1: He'd been a coach of the Year with Indiana and Detroit,
Speaker 1: and when he left Detroit, Larry Brown comes and then
Speaker 1: wins the championship, and a lot of people thought, you
Speaker 1: know what, Carlisle can't coach, He's not that good. He
Speaker 1: also had a team that was a contender, a NBA
Speaker 1: championship contender, but they had that thing called the Malas
Speaker 1: and the Palace when he was coached in Indiana. And
Speaker 1: then of course, you know, Ron Artest and Stevie Jackson
Speaker 1: got suspended, that team got blown up, and you saw
Speaker 1: what happened. When you got a guy who had his
Speaker 1: coaching ability mixed in with some talent, he was able
Speaker 1: to win. I believe Mike McCarthy is that type of coach.
Speaker 1: I believe that to a guy who's in a Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: he may right now be the coach who has the
Speaker 1: least amount of respect in the NFL right now who
Speaker 1: has won a Super Bowl. Can you name another coach
Speaker 1: in the NFL who has less respect for having won
Speaker 1: a championship to Mike McCarthy right now, I can't think
Speaker 1: I can't do it. I can't do it. Right now,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, let's start to let's start to
Speaker 1: show up next week with you coming up with ever
Speaker 1: you want to lose, and then I accept, and then
Speaker 1: you owe me two or whatever whatever you owe me.
Speaker 1: Right now, let's let's just let's just do that because
Speaker 1: you're trying to go double you trying double lug double
Speaker 1: n No, you know you go. You're gonna get my
Speaker 1: deal this style. By the way, remind me what, dude,
Speaker 1: I owe you what? So? Okay, So, but I picked
Speaker 1: the place. Okay, but I picked the place right, Yes,
Speaker 1: but it has as you know, it can't be McDonald's.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. No, no, no, no, no
Speaker 1: no no, no, no, no no, it can't be no
Speaker 1: none of that McDonald It got to be something worth
Speaker 1: worth while. Uh and the Pikes and my Neil gotta
Speaker 1: my entree has to be over twenty five dollars. Okay.
Speaker 1: I ain't going to take you to a place that
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins absolutely loves. Okay, and he's a fellow LSU guy.
Speaker 1: So if it's good enough for Le Collins, I believe
Speaker 1: it'll be good enough for you Danny, listen to me,
Speaker 1: and don't see you don't eat the same though. We
Speaker 1: don't have the same taste around. Gonna be open in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Let me let me look at yo first,
Speaker 1: send me what it is. Let me look at yelp.
Speaker 1: I decide, right, because I wanted the best. Let me decide.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be two sisters. It's a it's a fan. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, I do that, and I do that. I
Speaker 1: like that. Okay. Ninth War in New Orleans and what
Speaker 1: they and here's what they did, danny. Um, they redid
Speaker 1: the bread. They mad so the breath that the poor
Speaker 1: boy breath they have here, Danny is this is the
Speaker 1: legitimate you know, it's all about the good bread. Um,
Speaker 1: it's legitimate. So um. So Collins goes there, he loves it. Um.
Speaker 1: Who's the old running back, who's from uh Lanny Orleans?
Speaker 1: Play yes, so dunbar, dunbar used to take a bunch
Speaker 1: of cowboys. That's how I first heard about it. By
Speaker 1: the way, So I will take you there. It'll meet
Speaker 1: all your requirements of of of the taste, the pricing,
Speaker 1: everything will be good. And if it gets to a
Speaker 1: point in time where we really can't get this thing done.
Speaker 1: I'll meet you someplace, I'll get it to go. We
Speaker 1: can social distance out in the part someplace or wherever
Speaker 1: you want, and we can eat the meal. But I
Speaker 1: will take care of it. Okay, I will take care
Speaker 1: of that. Okay, I will take care of that. So
Speaker 1: I will, I will. I will gladly pay that back.
Speaker 1: But yes, my George, it'll be much better than that
Speaker 1: last place we went to. And you'll say you were right.
Speaker 1: You'll say new or you were right, and that's good.
Speaker 1: That's what all we talk about thecast. But but I
Speaker 1: will come up with a bet where I get coach
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's back, and you'll just sit around here at
Speaker 1: the end of it and have to pay me back,
Speaker 1: and I'll be very happy because I believe. I believe
Speaker 1: that Mike McCarthy will be able to make this a
Speaker 1: better football team. I believe that this is a man who,
Speaker 1: while he tries to downplay it, feels like he has
Speaker 1: something to prove. And I'm telling you, for a man
Speaker 1: who's won a championship, tell me, I mean, who else
Speaker 1: out there is won a Super Bowl that has I mean,
Speaker 1: all of them get more respect. Than him, Bellichim. Then
Speaker 1: he give you some money before this own podcast some
Speaker 1: rules I'm mad to. Oh no, nothing happened. He can't
Speaker 1: he can't even end the show. McCarthy. McCarthy, McCarthy, I
Speaker 1: got you, man, I like I like it. That's a boy. Hey,
Speaker 1: you all you you know what you are. Go sit
Speaker 1: out here and say something. Boy, we did, we didn't know,
Speaker 1: and that's okay. That's okay because you know what, Math
Speaker 1: fans were the same way. Mad fans when they got
Speaker 1: Rick Carloli were like, man, this is just another every Johnson.
Speaker 1: In fact, they were calling him Ivory Johnson, like he's
Speaker 1: just the same old guy. Ended up with a championship.
Speaker 1: Everybody was quiet. I remember everybody said fire fire Ron Washington.
Speaker 1: I was like, leave Ron Washington, you know it. Let
Speaker 1: Rangers the two World series winning his manage. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you I'm going down that same road. Okay, I'm put
Speaker 1: chips in. Shout chips in on, Mike McCarthy, Okay, put
Speaker 1: chips in, man, chips. We'll see exactly exact trust me,
Speaker 1: trust me, all right, producer extraordinary, Chris Bean. I appreciate
Speaker 1: you getting this on. UM. I know it's always an
Speaker 1: adventure when you deal with when you deal with us,
Speaker 1: especially me mccraig Church. This was fun. It was good
Speaker 1: to talk to you guys one more time. And we'll
Speaker 1: write it again next week Friday, and I'll come up
Speaker 1: with that Mike McCarthy bet Danny mccraig, So she don't
Speaker 1: want to believe in the coach the way I believe
Speaker 1: in the coach. But we'll come up with something here
Speaker 1: for the players. Note, all right, it sounds good. We
Speaker 1: should see sounds good to me. All right, Cowboy Nation,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you checking this out. This is the players
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