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Speaker 1: What did I just witness? Well? I just witnessed James

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Speaker 1: So we will dive into that game from an Eagle's perspective.

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Speaker 1: even know what to say. I'm pretty speechless. I thought

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Speaker 1: when the Seattle got the ball back, things might get weird.

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect that. I didn't expect Drew Locke to

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Speaker 1: a team that still kind of believes. And I think

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Speaker 1: the way that they beat the Chiefs and everything that

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Speaker 1: transpired after with the Mahomes and all the conversation, I

427
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Speaker 1: wonder if they're a lot tighter unit now. And me

428
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: and Colin talked about it yesterday. When you look at

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Speaker 1: their schedule, I think there's a very good chance of

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Speaker 1: it coming down Week eighteen, them and the Dolphins for

431
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Speaker 1: the AFC East. And let's face it, if it does

432
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Speaker 1: come down to that, that'll be the Sunday night game.

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Speaker 1: Everyone and their mother is gonna pick the Bills because ultimately,

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Speaker 1: the Bills ceiling what we witnessed yesterday against the Cowboys

435
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: is as high as anyone in the NFL beside the

436
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Speaker 1: forty nine ers. And I said last week, I'm like,

437
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Speaker 1: I don't believe in this Bills team because they play

438
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: in the same game all the time. It's just a

439
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: wacky game that they win some and they this season.

440
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: Now here's the difference the last three years. Everyone acts

441
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Speaker 1: like I think Sean McDermott is getting treated like he's

442
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: some scrub coach. He's gone thirteen eleven and thirteen wins

443
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: the last three seasons. The guy's won a lot of games,

444
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 1: and he's had this team right on the precipice of

445
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: like getting over the hump. Now, they had a devastating

446
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: loss a couple of years ago, the thirteen second game

447
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs, but this is not I think sometimes

448
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 1: he gets talked about like he's Josh McDaniels or Brandon Saley,

449
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: like he's proven to be pretty damn good and what

450
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: he just did against Sean McDermott. He's also the defensive coordinator,

451
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: so that defensive effort yesterday was him. That's his game plan.

452
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: He's calling the place against Mike McCarthy. He's the guy

453
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: that have them under one hundred yards the majority of

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Speaker 1: the game. He's the guy that embarrass the Cowboys. That's

455
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: his defensive play calling. And obviously Josh and Joe Brady.

456
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Anytime a coach wants to make a move,

457
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: like sometimes it's out of desperation, like Ron rivera firing

458
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: jack del reel, like everyone's getting fired. You just throw

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Speaker 1: some guys off the boat, like you're eventually gonna get

460
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: tossed off the boat too. And sometimes maybe things just

461
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 1: aren't working, and you go, you know, we need a change,

462
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: and he goes to Joe Brady. And let's face it,

463
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,239
Speaker 1: the Bills have looked dramatically better on offense and that

464
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: game against the Cowboys, So now the defense has a

465
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: high ceiling. If they're playing well like they did against

466
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and their offense is rolling, there's a team

467
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: and me and stuck. You've been talking about it for

468
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: a while. If they get hot, watch out because they're

469
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Speaker 1: like they're the type team with that ceiling that can

470
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Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs and beat the Ravens in the playoffs. Clearly,

471
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Speaker 1: you look around the AFC, I don't think anyone else

472
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: can the Bills if they get in, if they run

473
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Speaker 1: the table and win the division, like I think a

474
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Speaker 1: lot of people will pick them to win the AFC,

475
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: and I think it'll come back to the moment when

476
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: that article came out and everyone was trying to say

477
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: the bills were done. Every you know, Sean was going

478
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: to get fired. They were going to do a reset,

479
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: and everyone banded and kind of, you know, grew closer together.

480
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: And that's a cool thing that happens sometimes in sports,

481
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: and I think that might have been just what we

482
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Speaker 1: just witnessed on Sunday. Tom Brady said a while back

483
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: that he thought quarterback play had never been worse, and

484
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 1: you know, he got a lot of pushback from different people,

485
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 1: especially you know, newer age people get very angry with that.

486
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Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there on Saturday, eating a sandwich, you know,

487
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: drinking some water, watching the game and Gardner Minshew, who

488
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: is a fun player, he might throw more more yolo

489
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Speaker 1: balls than any quarterback I've ever seen, and in the

490
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: history of the league, a lot of his balls would

491
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: have got guys carried off in stretchers in the eighties

492
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: and the nineties would have got guys killed. Well, I've

493
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: been saying this for a while. Football, I despise throwing

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Speaker 1: guys out of games. This is not baseball. Where you

495
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: play tomorrow, you only get seventeen of these And in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. I feel very confident saying nobody's trying

497
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: to hurt anybody. When anyone makes a tackle one it's

498
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: so easy in slow motion to think, oh, that's a

499
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: he lowered his head, put pads on, put a helmet on.

500
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: See how hard it is, like, put your head in

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00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: front with the shoulder. It's bullshit. Every fat ass on

502
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: their couch is always tweeting like, oh, that's chicken shit.

503
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: He lowered his No, he's just he's trying to put

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00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: his shoulder into the guy and tackle the player. Fred

505
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: Warner was asked I saw today by Pat McAfee about

506
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: the hip drop tackle. He's like, that's the dumbest thing

507
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: I've ever heard. I've never once thought about, like, I

508
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: gotta wrap this guy up, drop my hips and spin.

509
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: I'm literally just tackling the guy and try to get

510
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: him to the ground. So in that moment, when Casey

511
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: hit Pittman on Saturday and knocked him out of the game,

512
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: the pass was a fucking joke. It was an awful throw.

513
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: Historically in football it's been called a hospital ball. That's

514
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: what Minchew threw. And when Casey started to go forward,

515
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: he thought Pittman was up, and then Pittman has to

516
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: lay out because again it's a terrible throw. And then

517
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: as he's going down, he's going down because he doesn't

518
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: want to hit him high and he doesn't want to

519
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: take his legs off, and his butt and his head

520
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: and his shoulder come right into the guy. And I

521
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: think it happens all the time and the quarterback. No

522
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: one ever talks about Gardner Minshew throwing his wide receiver

523
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: into a death trap. It's always like that guy is

524
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: a headhunter. We need to get that out of the NFL.

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00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this. You know the reason why

526
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: the NFL is throwing all these flags and now you know,

527
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: suspending these guys for the season without pay litigation. They

528
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: don't want to get sued for CTE ever again, so

529
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: they can say in ten years, in twenty years, here's

530
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: everything we did, X, Y and Z think about your company.

531
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: Everything they do they document with HR. It's the same logic.

532
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: They're just covering their ass. They don't actually care that

533
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: he didn't mean to hurt him. They don't actually care

534
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: that it was a terrible throw. It's simply covering their ass,

535
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: which I understand, but let's call it for what it is.

536
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: And Tom Brady instagram like, does the quarterback ever have

537
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: to take any responsibility anymore? And the answer is no.

538
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: And I started thinking, I wonder if the reason that

539
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: it's never been easier for these backups to excel in

540
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: the NFL. You kind of throw it anywhere, right, because

541
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: one those hits are even very rare, So even if

542
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: you throw hospital balls, no one's gonna get injured. For

543
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: the most part. Hell, most most dbs aren't even trying

544
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: to hit you that way anymore because they are They

545
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: fear getting in trouble, they fear getting fined. And you

546
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: can just throw it wherever. It's literally never been easier.

547
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: Like if that was nineteen ninety seven and you were

548
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: playing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, John Pittman would be out

549
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: for the season, He'd have a shattered clavigal, he'd be done.

550
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: It used to happen all the time. And then you

551
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: knew and this is what Brady and Peyton and Breeze

552
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: and all these guys forever, just in the most recent generation,

553
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: but Young and Aikman have talked about forever. I had

554
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: to be very very careful where I put the football

555
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: because if I put it in harm's way, I would

556
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: legitimately get the guy hurt. And my biggest issue now

557
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: is no one's trying to hurt anybody. People are just

558
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: trying to tackle like it's been legislated out of the league.

559
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: But where's the responsibility for the shitty throws? And the

560
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: answer is there just isn't any I do think in

561
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: Colin mentioned this the other day, everyone's gonna overreact on

562
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. They get a great opportunity because that Bills team,

563
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: they clearly went into the hornet's nest. That team came

564
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: together and they just got their ass kicked. But now

565
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: they get Miami, who's gonna feeling themselves a little bit

566
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: at home, which is a much better matchup for them,

567
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: and then they get Detroit. Now I'm not saying the

568
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna they're a lock to win these two games,

569
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be a pretty easy opportunity for Dallas

570
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: to get their swag back. They can go to Miami,

571
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: they can win, then they can play Detroit at home,

572
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: where clearly they excel, and if they win that game,

573
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everyone's gonna be taking Dallas seriously, again,

574
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: it's the Ebban flow of football because one game means

575
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: so much. It's why I'm so opposed to throwing guys

576
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: out of games, because this is you don't just get

577
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: to play tomorrow, right Hell, for cases, he doesn't even

578
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: get to play the rest of the season. But I

579
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: think you got to be very very careful about the

580
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: overreaction to the Bills, especially when you look at the schedule.

581
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Speaker 1: I think this is a huge game this week. I mean,

582
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: this is the best part about the NFL. Fox has

583
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: been very lucky this season. Basically, it feels like for

584
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: the entire season, either the Cowboys, the forty nine ers

585
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: or the Eagles play a massive game in the afternoon slate.

586
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Speaker 1: And you know, obviously the Cowboys and nine Ers have

587
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: been carrying the league financially in terms of big televi

588
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Speaker 1: and ratings for thirty years, and the Eagles are a

589
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: massive brand two. So you're gonna get a huge Cowboy

590
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphin game. And I'll promise you this, I'm gonna

591
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: pick Cowboys without hesitation, and that the following week against

592
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: the Lions, I think that has a chance to be

593
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: just a fantastic game. So that's It's an awesome little

594
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: stretch for McCarthy to get the boys, get the train

595
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: back on the tracks, and all of a sudden, people

596
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: being like Dallas is the second best team in the NFC,

597
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: because I don't think anyone is gonna say that about

598
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: Detroit no matter what they do, because they can't play outside.

599
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: But Dallas does need to shake this. You know, we

600
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: can't play on the road, and they get an opportunity

601
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: this week in Miami, which I'm sure will be a

602
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: Dallas home game, and then play Detroit at home, which

603
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: you know that should be the type team that you

604
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: light up the scoreboard on. Two more things, first and foremost,

605
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: the whole party conversation. Do you know the saddest part

606
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: about it all? He should really be the type guy

607
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: that like is really relatable to most people. Most programs

608
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: didn't want him. Nick Saban was like, yeah, I guess

609
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: you could walk on. I don't think you'll ever play

610
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 1: here was the Arizona player of the year. He had

611
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: to go to Iowa State, historically like not some great

612
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: football program. He turned the program around. He became an

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Speaker 1: All Big twelve guy back to back years. The previous

614
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: All Big twelve quarterbacks in that conference were like Jalen Hurtz,

615
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, you know, Baker Mayfield. I mean it was

616
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback factory conference. And everyone's like, hey, he he's

617
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: still a seventh round pick. Like this guy had been

618
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 1: handed nothing. Everyone's acting like this guy just landed at

619
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: home plate. He literally got drafted in the seventh round,

620
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: had to make the team as a third string quarterback,

621
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: and then because of injuries, just got his opportunity. He's

622
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: actually more relatable to most of us than like first

623
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: round picks who were just handed a bunch of money

624
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: and handed starting jobs. Most human beings kind of have

625
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: to earn their stripes and then get lucky with some

626
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: opportunities and then take advantage of it, like Okay, this

627
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: guy can't make the meeting, bill, we need you to

628
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: go in. It's like, should have been waiting for this

629
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: opportunity for two years. Right to me, Brock might be

630
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: one of the most relatable stories in the NFL. And

631
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: I see all these guys on television, especially the former players.

632
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: A lot of them tend to be more famous guys.

633
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: In a weird way, it feels like they hate it.

634
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: It really does. It feels like a lot of those

635
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: guys gravitate more towards the high picks becoming sweet, which listen,

636
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: I do too. I like a Miles Garrett and Aaron

637
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Speaker 1: Donald or Miles you know Nick Bosa as much as

638
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: the next guy. But I think stories of guys that

639
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: are laid around picks who become legit players are what

640
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: make the NFL so great. It really is what carries

641
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: the NFL. The overwhelming majority of NFL starters are guys

642
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 1: drafted on Day three. And you know, it's the ultimate

643
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: meritocracy in sports, because anyone can make a team, anyone

644
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: can earn a spot, and then anyone can become a really,

645
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: really good player. And it's just so much like negativity

646
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: around the guy. For listen, I think a lot of

647
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: it goes back to the draft pick. And I don't

648
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Speaker 1: think that's going to change for the foreseeable future. Even

649
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: if he wins the super Bowl, It'll be the conversation

650
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: next year, well can he do it again if he

651
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: was the second or third round or second or third

652
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Speaker 1: overall pick. I think we talk about this guy like

653
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Speaker 1: an absolute flat out star. And I've been watching the

654
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: forty nine ers for thirty years and the kid can

655
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: fucking play. Now. I've said over and over, when I

656
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: give the guy two hundred million dollars tomorrow, No, you

657
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: got to do it a couple of years. But this

658
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: notion that he's not some super high level player, and

659
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: he hasn't been, at minimum, even separate from the MVP conversation,

660
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: a top four or five quarterback this year, you're smoking crack.

661
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: If you can't see that, you've watched football season long.

662
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: So I just think the conversation is just one of

663
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: those things that solely exists because of his draft position.

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Speaker 1: It really does, right, and that's just not gonna change.

665
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: And that's the hard part about the NFL is to

666
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: get the rest, not that it matters, Like the only

667
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: thing that truly matters is your teammates like you, your coaches

668
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: like you, and do you make plays like whether the

669
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: former players on TV and the media a pundits like

670
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: you or not. Who gives a shit that they don't

671
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: pay your bills, that they determine zero success for you.

672
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: But it is just a conversation. This is the biggest

673
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Speaker 1: league in America. It's talked about and clearly he's a

674
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: really polarizing guy. And like I said, it just it's

675
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: all about being the last pick in the draft, which

676
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: to me should be like a positive, it should be

677
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: like an incredible part of the story. And it's just

678
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: it's just not right now for whatever reason. And last

679
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: but not least, you know what's crazy is a lot

680
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: of these offensive coaches are having success with like backup quarterbacks,

681
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: right Zach Taylor, Jake Browning. They're winning games. Kevin O'Connell's

682
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: like won some games with Mullins and h and Joshua Dobbs.

683
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: Stefanski's winning games with seventy year old Joe Flacco. I mean,

684
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: that's it's remarkable. These won multiple games with Joe Flacco,

685
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: Like five years ago wasn't any good. This version of

686
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco looks dramatically better than the Joe Flacco his

687
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: last couple of years on the Ravens. It's just Shane

688
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: Steichen with Gardner Minshew so well a lot of guys

689
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: around the NFL. Let's face it, the NFL this year

690
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: is a little down talent wise because somebody quarterbacks are out.

691
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: There's been a ton of injuries. You should be able

692
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 1: to compete with the backup quarterbacks. Why I'm so hard

693
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: on the Steelers, like one, that's who your backup quarterback is.

694
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: Two and you can't even compete with the guy. But

695
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: I'm watching Robert Sala and I believe they're all gonna

696
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: come back simply because they're gonna give them a shot

697
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. But this has been a couple of

698
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: years in a row that they have just gone with

699
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: quarterback situations and they're just not even that competitive. And

700
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Speaker 1: one thing I think we all have to acknowledge their

701
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: defense is a little overrated, Like their defense is not

702
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: as good as the hype, because you can watch them

703
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: some weeks like ah, the defense looks and then the

704
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: other weeks you're like, what the hell is going on?

705
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Speaker 1: But to me, the main problem is I can give

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Speaker 1: them Zach Wilson or Simeon or Mike White, and it's

707
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: just it looks way more difficult than it does for

708
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Speaker 1: these offensive coaches. And I want Robert Solid to be good.

709
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: But I understand a lot of people are getting a

710
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: lot of shit around the I mean, Bill Belichick might

711
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: get fired, Mike Tomlin might get fired. We'd be like, well,

712
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: Robert Solid just because he's just like what's he doing? Well?

713
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: Not much. It seems not very good. They're probably destined

714
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: to go six wins, So the last two years are

715
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: probably a thirteen wins in two years. And let's face it,

716
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: it's been an ugly thirteen wins. It's not like it's

717
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: been a pretty watch. I just think that this situation

718
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: with their quarterback, he can't influence at all. He has

719
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: no influence, and he clearly gets influenced on his offensive coordinator.

720
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Speaker 1: He hired a buddy Lafleur, and now he's with Hackett

721
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Speaker 1: because of Rogers, and it's just been an utter disaster.

722
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Speaker 1: So I do wonder, let's say they lose out if

723
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: he could be a wild card firing just because owners

724
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: We've talked about it forever. They have more money now

725
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: than ever. It's like it's all a line item to him.

726
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: Like for you, if you have to like do something

727
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 1: you don't want to do, pay a twenty five dollars

728
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: late fee or like whatever. I'll just pay this to

729
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: go away if it's a hundred bucks. For these guys,

730
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: paying a guy twenty million dollars to go away is

731
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: like change you find in your sofa. He's so meaningless

732
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: to him and Woody Johnson is just a wealthy owner

733
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: to begin with. He's just a major wild card. I

734
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: could see things getting weird now. I know people like him,

735
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: but I think the best thing Robert Sala has going

736
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: for him is people legitimately like him, and it's it's

737
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: just a good lesson, like for some a reason. You know,

738
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: a lot of guys in certain companies last a little

739
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: longer even when they don't produce, Like, oh, we just

740
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: we really like Ted. Just a good guy. It's like

741
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't do shit well, we just like having him around.

742
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Speaker 1: It's kind of what we feel, at least what I

743
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: feel like with Robert Sala. Just people like the guy.

744
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Speaker 1: But I think if you just go is he a

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00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: good coach? Is he a good head coach? I think

746
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: if you were gonna be objective, take a step back,

747
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: no emotion, you'd have to say he's not very good.

748
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, I want to see how that shakes out

749
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Speaker 1: if they keep losing. I want to end on this

750
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Speaker 1: because I didn't know this until I saw a stat

751
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: today on the interweb about raheem mozer So my Morgan

752
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: and Morgan player that made it look easy. It's not

753
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: that shocking that Christian McCaffrey has twenty touchdowns. I mean,

754
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: he had that streak that he almost broke of a

755
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: lot whatever, like fifteen straight games with a touchdown. He's

756
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: breaking forty nine or records. He might break the forty

757
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: nine ors Jerry Rice's record. He's been remarkable. I don't

758
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: think most people know that Raheem Moster has twenty touchdowns

759
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: this season. Twenty touchdowns. I've been following football since I

760
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: can remember, and if you say a guy has like

761
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: twelve touchdowns on the season, either running back or a

762
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver, that feels like an awesome year. If you

763
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Speaker 1: get to like fourteen or fifteen, decent chance you're gonna

764
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Speaker 1: lead the league in touchdowns, you get to the twenty mark,

765
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Speaker 1: that is just you're having a historic year. And to me,

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Speaker 1: he's a good example McCaffrey. It's not that weird. He

767
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: was the eighth pick in the draft. McCaffrey could have

768
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: gone to any team, and if he's healthy, he's gonna

769
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: be a star. He literally can do anything. I saw

770
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: Coward call him the maybe the greatest running back talent

771
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: of all time. I would have him right up there

772
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Speaker 1: with like Lt. Marshall Falk. He definitely is with those guys.

773
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: The most versatile running back of all time. Raheem Moster

774
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: is a guy that bounced around. If you just go

775
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: to his Wikia page. His first couple of years in

776
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: the league, practice squad, cut practice squad, another team, practice squad,

777
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: bounced around. He's a great example of why fit matters

778
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: so much. He got with Kyle Shanahan in like twenty

779
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: seventeen or twenty eighteen, and he never looked back. By

780
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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, he became their starting running back. He had

781
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Speaker 1: the huge NFC Championship game. Obviously, Mike McDaniel is the

782
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: run game coordinator. They become buddies. He goes with him

783
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Speaker 1: to Miami and now in twenty twenty three, with three

784
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: games left, he has twenty touchdowns. This is a guy

785
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,959
Speaker 1: who was cut by countless teams. This is a guy

786
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: that could not get off practice squads. Then he goes

787
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Speaker 1: on to start an NFC championship game and now be

788
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: a guy who can be a playoff teams starting running

789
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Speaker 1: back and give you twenty touchdowns. So props to uh

790
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: Rahem Moster for making it look easy. That's just freaking awesome.

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Speaker 1: So if you're ever injured. You can check out Morgan

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Speaker 1: it's mailbag time and it's very very easy to get

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Speaker 1: in our mailbag. You just go to my DMS on

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Speaker 1: and you slide right in and you get your question answered.

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00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: Here on the show, we got a lot. I will

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00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: try to get to as many as possible. Start with Elijah.

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Speaker 1: I know we are not very good, but if we

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Speaker 1: get in the playoffs, do you think that we could

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00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: upset Philly or Dallas. I'm a Saints fan, I don't

806
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 1: I have a hard time seeing Tennis, Allen and Derek

807
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: Carr win a playoff game. I still am not betting

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00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: on you guys to make the playoffs. Just I have

809
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: a hard time with what I've seen this year, and

810
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: I had high hopes. I picked you guys to make

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Speaker 1: the picture guys to be like an eleven win team,

812
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: but Derek for the most part, has not played well,

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00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: and I just don't trust your head coach, And I'm sorry,

814
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: I don't give you much credit beating de Vito. You guys,

815
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Speaker 1: maybe you'd have a better chance depending on a Philly

816
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: kind of imploded down the stretch. I just think Dallas

817
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: would be a tough matchup for you. They can rush

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Speaker 1: the passer. Derek's not very good against pressure that they're

819
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: fast team indoors. Even Philly with all their skill guys

820
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: on offense, I think you would be a major, major underdog,

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Speaker 1: even though you have a home game against anybody. Now,

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00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: it's football, it's a one game situation. It's not you know,

823
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: basketball or baseball, where I guess baseball the cream doesn't

824
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: always rise, but in foot In basketball, usually the best

825
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: team wins the series. Football, weird things can happen. Maybe

826
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: Dak throws a couple of picks, but I think the

827
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Speaker 1: Cowboys are going to beat any team they play in

828
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Speaker 1: that five to four matchup. Mail back question. When Staley

829
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Speaker 1: gets fired. You always see folks saying you never want

830
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: to see someone lose their job, but dot dot dot

831
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Speaker 1: it was time for a change. I disagree. These head

832
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: coaches make so much damn money compared to the regular

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Speaker 1: working man. I don't think we should feel bad for

834
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Speaker 1: them at all when they get fired for being terrible.

835
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: Is that unfair I have? I feel bad for the

836
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: guy making seventy grand with three kids at home who

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Speaker 1: gets laid off. I feel bad for the guy whose

838
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: business goes under because of you know, COVID restrictions in

839
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, because he's in a

840
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: state that you know locked his business down. Like that's

841
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: who I feel bad do. I feel bad for Brandon Staley,

842
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: who was making millions of dollars, who was not in

843
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: a position that he ever should have been in in

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Speaker 1: the first place. Zero remorse. I have no remorse when

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Speaker 1: any of these coaches get fired who aren't good at

846
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: their job, right, I mean, it's like one they get

847
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: paid to go away. Most humans are at will employees,

848
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: so when they get fired, maybe they get a month

849
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: or two severance. A lot of these guys that get

850
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: fired have years left on their contract, millions of dollars

851
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: to go home, and most guys, like listen, if you're

852
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: good and you get fired, you immediately get another job.

853
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: Sean Payton quit but Mike McCarthy, Andy Reid, like Doug Peterson,

854
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: like the cream always rises right, or you get another

855
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: coordinator job that pays seven figures. I feel it never

856
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: crossed my mind once of like, god, it sucks for.

857
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: Now do you know who it sucks for. I've been

858
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: fired in the NFL. I was making I think sixty

859
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: grand like that kind of sucks. I had to figure

860
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: it out now, I was young, was you know, time

861
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: was on my side, and I figured it out. But

862
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: you're making millions of dollars and you get fired. No,

863
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: not players get run out of the league when they're

864
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: not any good. It's part of the business. It is

865
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: a very petitive, highly paid industry that you know, you

866
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: take these jobs. You're hired to get fired. It's kind

867
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: of the way it is. And if you can hold

868
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: that job for three or four years alone, you make

869
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: a ton of money. And regardless even if you get

870
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: fired the first year, you get you know, four and

871
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: five year contracts. So I think he's an all time

872
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: scam artist. I really do says the right things interviews. Well,

873
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: skinny looking guy looks the part, I guess, and full

874
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: the spanises and I don't think he's ever getting another

875
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: head coaching job again. Question for the POD. I'm not

876
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: a Charger fan, but should the new GM coach consider

877
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: trading Herbert in a first to the Bears to get

878
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: the number one pick draft Caleb Williams and reset the clock. No.

879
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: In football and sports in general, the entire point of

880
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: having a high draft pick, especially in football when it

881
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: comes to a quarterback, is to land to Justin Herbert.

882
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: So once you land to just Herbert, you do everything

883
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: humanly possible to build your team, to build your organization,

884
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: to hire coaching staffs, and as a GM to pick

885
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: the players around that guy and to make him successful.

886
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: There is no guarantee. I don't care how hyped up

887
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: the prospect is that he's gonna be any good. We

888
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: see time and time again players with a ton of

889
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: hype that get drafted and just aren't good football players.

890
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean it literally just happened a couple of years ago.

891
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson picked two awful Trey Lance pick three. He's

892
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: a third stringer, Justin Fields pick eleven. He's about to

893
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: get traded. Mac Jones pick fifteen. Not good. Now, Obviously,

894
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: Caleb's a better prospect than all those guys. But I

895
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: do think it speaks to who whatever the Salt Rock

896
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: Purty having s you never know, and you have Justin

897
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: Herbert good guy under contract. It's not even to me.

898
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even entertain it. I guess your job is

899
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: to take phone calls, so obviously you're not gonna hang up.

900
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: You just maybe listen the phone call. But I think

901
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: it's pretty easy to end with, yeah, we're not interested.

902
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: Assuming San Franco, Dallas, and Philly all either win out

903
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: or at very least go three to one in the

904
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: last quarter of the season. Should San Francisco versus LA

905
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: be the last Sunday Night football of the regular season?

906
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: Mcvaig ver's Kyle in a scenario where Kyle has to

907
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: win to keep the one seed and McVeigh might has

908
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: to win to get in. I think the final game,

909
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: and I looked at the schedule the other day, is

910
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: already shaping up to be Buffalo Miami for the division

911
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: because I think if Miami loses one of the next

912
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: two games, they play Dallas and they play the Ravens.

913
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: So let's just assume best case they go, I guess

914
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: they could sweep. Highly unlikely. I think they lose this

915
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: week to Dallas, but they go one in one and

916
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: Buffalo plays the Chargers, who literally quit last week. They

917
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: play one other terrible team maybe, oh, they play the Patriots.

918
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: So assuming they're two to zero, that game would be

919
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: for the division. So I think anytime that you have

920
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: a game for the division, which means a home playoff game,

921
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: especially with Josh Allen, if I was a betting man

922
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: right now, that's going to be the Sunday Night week

923
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: whatever it is, eighteen game. What are your thoughts on

924
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: the high number of mobile quarterbacks in the National Football League.

925
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: It seems like most quarterbacks in the NFL can move around,

926
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: especially the younger recently drafted guys. Personally, I think the

927
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: focus on mobility and extending plays has made quarterbacks significantly

928
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: less efficient and turnover prone. Well, the NFL can only

929
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: draft what they're giving. And like when I was a kid,

930
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks kind of look the same, right, they

931
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: were the Peyton Manning's Ryan Leafs to Philip Rivers to

932
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: all that crew of guys, right Carson Palmer. They were

933
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: tall pocket quarterbacks who lacked who were the least athletic

934
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 1: guy on the field always, and that has dramatically changed.

935
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: Like if Peyton Manning was in the draft, like, yeah,

936
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: someone would take them. Though, I think the offensive line

937
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: play is dramatically worse. So non mobile quarterbacks you would

938
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: just get sacked more now than ever, even Peyton and Tom,

939
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: and you saw Tom last year. Most offensive line won.

940
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: The injuries have gone up. And two, there's not as

941
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: many good players at that position. We've talked about it

942
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: over and over the practice schedule. The development is not

943
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: the same yet the amount of good defensive lineman. Every year,

944
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: a ton of guys are getting drafted. I and half

945
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: those guys turn out to be impact players. And there's

946
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: already a ton of impact players in the league. So

947
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 1: I just think it's more of a result of what's

948
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: playing at the lower levels and what comes up. And

949
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: I would want a mobile quarterback, and I think one

950
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: hundred percent you can have a mobile quarterback. And when

951
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: I say mobile, I don't necessarily mean like Kyler Lamar,

952
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: like Patrick Mahomes really brock Perty's mobile, obviously, Josh Allen

953
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: is really really mobile, Herbert's mobile. Why would you not

954
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: want an athletic guy who can also play within the pocket.

955
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: I think in a perfect world, you want both, right,

956
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: you want John Elway Obviously, the greatest quarterback of all

957
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: time is a pocket quarterback, but most other guys kind

958
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: of in that crew. Joe Montana could move, Brett fav

959
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers could move, John Elway could move, Steve Young

960
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: could move. Peyton can't. Dan Marino can't. But a lot

961
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks had some mobility just to get outside the pocket.

962
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: So I don't know if it leads to more turnovers.

963
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: It definitely leads to I guess that's fair a hero

964
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: syndrome when you're out trying to keep a play alive.

965
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: But I like that in my quarterback for sure. I'm

966
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: a Falcons fan and have been contemplating this all season.

967
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 1: Should the Falcons bring back Arthur Smith assuming we draft

968
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: a quarterback early in next year's draft. He hasn't shown

969
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: very much ability to utilize his offensive weapons to the

970
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: fullest extent. Do we give him one more year with

971
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: a new quarterback and see how it goes? Or do

972
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: we start fresh with a new head coach and a

973
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: new quarterback. Well, I think most young coaches are going

974
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: to you know, first time, let me rephrase it, young

975
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: first time coaches are gonna struggle if their quarterback position sucks. Now,

976
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: one thing I didn't quite understand is why they were

977
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: so confident in Desmond Ritter being a good player. Right,

978
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: he wasn't a super high pick. What was he a

979
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: third rounder? I think a lot of people like the

980
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: Cincinnati career, which he was playing at a lower level

981
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: of football. We saw him against the big boys in

982
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: that playoff game. It was pretty ugly, and I think

983
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: he's shown a lot of those qualities in the NFL. Obviously,

984
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: the game against the Panthers, he had one of the

985
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: worst picks you'll ever see. I never was a huge believer,

986
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: but that's who he staked his career on. Is Arthur

987
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: Smith good? I don't know. I'd be lying if I

988
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: said I watched that much Falcons football, But I didn't

989
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: like the pick at eight with b John Robinson. It

990
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: didn't make that much sense. And now is he picking

991
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: the players? I don't know. They have the GM the

992
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: former Saints guy. So my guess is he gets one

993
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: more year. But it has not gone smooth, really hasn't.

994
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: And one major issue for the Falcons is when their

995
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: quarterback play. You know, Matt Ryan started falling off a Cliff.

996
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: Now it doesn't. They've just been a meh franchise. They

997
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: are just pretty meh and you're not shitty enough where

998
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna draft super high to get one of the

999
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: top guys. So I don't know. I think you just

1000
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: you probably run it back and try to sign maybe

1001
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: trade for Justin Fields. I think that's what most people think.

1002
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: Justin Fields is going to be on the Atlanta Falcons.

1003
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: I don't know why we all just assume that, because

1004
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: there are gonna be other teams that need quarterbacks. But

1005
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: it feels like where it's gonna go. Big fan from Tijuana, Mexico.

1006
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: I like Tijuana. Why did Brandon Saley fail so miserably

1007
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: as the DC in La or could you argue that?

1008
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: Give it his track record with the Rams and adding

1009
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: his revolutionary ideas a fresh, new and young voice, open minded,

1010
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: hottest DC on the market. This was a great match

1011
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: given the talent and the organization and obviously a top

1012
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: ten quarterback, but year in and year out, he fell

1013
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: flat on his face, ranking in the bottom half in

1014
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: every statistical category. I've gotten to the conclusion that he

1015
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: was a great defensive coordinator because he had a generational

1016
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,479
Speaker 1: foundational cornerstone players in two key positions, Jalen and Aaron

1017
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: Donald at the peak of their powers, hiding his defensive

1018
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: coordinator shortcomings. But I have no expert and this assessment

1019
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: is a little bit superficial and lacks a lot of

1020
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: in depth explanation. I think the hardest part about transitioning

1021
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: from a coordinator to a head coach. And one, he

1022
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: was only a coordinator for one year, so his sample size,

1023
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: and it was twenty one twenty two. It was in

1024
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,959
Speaker 1: the COVID year, so it was a super weird year.

1025
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: And like you said, they had two guys, Aaron Donald's

1026
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: a first ballot Hall of Famer and Jalen is having

1027
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: a fantastic career. They also just had a very buttoned

1028
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: up organization like that team had been winning. McVeigh was

1029
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: a fantastic head coach. But when all I have to

1030
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,479
Speaker 1: worry about as a head coach is twenty twenty five

1031
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: guys and making sure and I don't have to think

1032
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: about anything else, Like a guy gets a DUI, a

1033
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: guy breaks his leg, something happens when the practice squatter,

1034
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: something's weird with the travel. None of it's on me.

1035
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: I only have to focus on defense. And also that year,

1036
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: remember it was very zoom heavy. I think you look back,

1037
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of a fugazi year. I

1038
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: mean it's an all time quarterback fugazi draft. So I

1039
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: think a lot of guys get overwhelmed when they're the

1040
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: head guy because there's a million things going on. You

1041
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: gotta worry about your offensive coordinator, you gotta worry about

1042
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: your offensive players, you gotta worry about everything going on

1043
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: off the field, and you can get overwhelmed. And when

1044
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: you watch the Chargers play, they're players, like do I

1045
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: think Brandon Saley if you got him on a whiteboard,

1046
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: would know where everyone's supposed to go, would go? Well,

1047
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: this coverage should have worked if this guy was here. Yeah,

1048
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: but it does not matter as a coach how much

1049
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: you know, right, Like any parent listening to this, if

1050
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: you're trying to instill life lessons eventually your kid, Like

1051
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 1: I know, I remember my parents tell me all these

1052
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 1: things growing up, and until you go through ru it's

1053
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: like it's hard for it to really resonate. And then

1054
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: the older you get. It's why in my late thirties,

1055
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: I think about things that I was told, Like when

1056
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: I was ten fifteen years old, because like I can

1057
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 1: finally get it. Even looking back to college, like finance

1058
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: class kind of bored me. I didn't have any money.

1059
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what any of the shit meant.

1060
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: And the older you get, you get money, you're like

1061
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: got you can start realizing all these things start resonating

1062
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: with you. And I think that a lot of guys

1063
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: have one. He lacked experience, so all of his knowledge

1064
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: giving it to these other guys. I just don't really

1065
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: think he knew what he was doing. I really don't.

1066
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: And do I think he knows defense? Yeah? Probably? Do

1067
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 1: I think he knows how to properly communicate it as

1068
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: a coordinator slash head coach to the entire group. I

1069
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: don't because I watched his team play and they never

1070
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: were on the same page ever. So yeah, I mean,

1071
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 1: and this is another question, do you think he'll ever

1072
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: get the opportunity? I would say this, like Tom Telesco,

1073
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 1: most general managers, if you look historically like the alt

1074
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 1: a great name, like a Ron wolf type or Bill Pollian,

1075
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: they might get a couple spots or a couple shots,

1076
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: but gms usually get one bite at the apple, and

1077
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: Tom Telesco had got eleven years as a GM, he

1078
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: hired three coaches. I don't think he'll ever be a

1079
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: GM again, even though he wasn't that terrible, And it's

1080
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: not maybe all on him who he gets to hire,

1081
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: right his owner is so cheap, they might have forced

1082
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: some coaches on him that maybe he wasn't all on

1083
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: board at the time. But I do think you can

1084
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 1: never say never. I do think it was as ugly

1085
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: as it was that it would be very, very difficult

1086
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: for an NFL team to hire brand Staley. I'd say

1087
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: the same thing with Joe Judge. It was just so like,

1088
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's hard to shake that now, you

1089
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: never say never. You know, a lot of guys, a

1090
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: lot of coaches like Ron Rivera, I mean, coaches get

1091
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: second chances that you go, how did that happen? But

1092
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: I would, at least in the near future, next five

1093
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: eight years, hard to see that. Hard to see that.

1094
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: He also coaches on the wrong side of the ball,

1095
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: So when you're a defensive coach you're just moving forward,

1096
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: are going to be less likely to be the guy

1097
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: people pick. The other thing is if they get a

1098
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 1: real coach in there, and then the Chargers are good,

1099
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 1: I mean really good, like start going to the playoffs

1100
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: every year Herbert starts dominating again, I think that'll be

1101
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: a poor reflection on him, like Mark Jackson who had

1102
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,959
Speaker 1: some red flags, like when he was there, players didn't

1103
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: like him or whatever. But one reason he's never sniffed

1104
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: another opportunity. It's like, God, how did you not dominate

1105
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: more with this Warriors team. I hate Arthur Smith for

1106
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: fantasy football reasons, but I've watched a lot of their

1107
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: games because of Bijon Robinson. At what point does ownership

1108
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: give up on him? His play calling and misuse of

1109
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: stud offensive players is embarrassing. Bijon pits London all play

1110
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: great when feature can you misuse players fracture the locker room?

1111
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 1: Well for sure? And I think the number one job

1112
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: of any good coordinator, whether it's pass, whether it's run,

1113
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: whether it's screens, whether it's deep bomb, regardless of the

1114
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: play call, get the ball in your best players hands,

1115
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: over and over and over again. Andy Reid did it

1116
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: forever with Mahomes and Hill and Kelsey. Right, Kyle Shanahan

1117
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: is currently doing it with all the guys. Find ways

1118
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: to get them the ball. However, that is it doesn't

1119
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: even matter how the play looks. Get the ball in

1120
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: their hands and then let them cook. And for whatever reason,

1121
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: everyone I hated the pick at the time, fucking hated it.

1122
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: It's like they just had a rookie running back who

1123
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: was good. You're taking a running back there when you

1124
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: have a million other needs. I didn't understand it. I

1125
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: really didn't. If anything, I thought they should have traded

1126
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: up for Anthony Richardson, and maybe they tried and they

1127
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: didn't get it done. I was talking with the buddy

1128
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: about wide receivers that make a lot of contested catches,

1129
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: and we named a few, AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, Jefferson,

1130
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: and Mike Evans, but we were struggling to name more

1131
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: off the top of our heads. Is it me or

1132
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: the prototype now Tyreek Hill? And could there be a

1133
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: resurgence of big bodies like Julio t O and Kwan

1134
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: Randy because Riek is actually one of a kind and

1135
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: no one will be able to replicate it. Well, just

1136
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: it all depends on the wide receivers coming into the NFL.

1137
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: Right the draft dictates that like Marvin Harrison is going

1138
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: to be a top five, six seven pick. Why because

1139
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: He's a big time talent, and I've heard his ball

1140
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: skills and contested catchability is fantastic. So is the dude

1141
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: at Florida State Coleman fantastic contested catch guy. But you

1142
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: look last year like who are the guys having a

1143
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: lot of success? Zay Flowers smaller guy, but just a

1144
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: dynamic player. I watched Jordan Addison. The guy's really really good.

1145
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: I like to me, the skills I look for at

1146
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver would be ball skills would be like one

1147
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: of my obviously route running, getting open and catching the

1148
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: ball and being able to catch the ball in areas

1149
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: that aren't easy. DeVante Adams is fantastic at it. Keenan

1150
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: Allen fantastic at it. Right, you have to have. Even

1151
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: Deebo small, he can make contested catches. So that's just

1152
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: a thing when you're evaluating a wide receiver he has

1153
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: to have because you used an Kwon like Hopkins in

1154
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: the same way. Those two guys could never run, but

1155
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: it didn't matter. They could box you out, they could

1156
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: be physical. They could make a catch in traffic or

1157
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: with a guy draped all over. So it's just a

1158
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: skill you have to have. But Tyreek Hills can make

1159
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: contested catches. He has incredible ball skills. Happy Brandon Staley

1160
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: firing day. See, here's the thing, while I don't feel

1161
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: any sympathy or listen, I here's a good life lesson.

1162
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: Most people, when you go through terrible things in your life,

1163
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: probably don't care is much as you think. Now obviously

1164
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: your short immediate family, your wife, your family, you know,

1165
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: your brothers or sisters, your close close friends. But most

1166
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: people are kind of worried about themselves. So like, listen,

1167
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get any joy in Brandon Saley

1168
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: getting fired. I don't even care. I mean, that's just

1169
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: I'd like the Chargers to be good. They're not gonna

1170
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: be this year. He was gonna it was inevitable he

1171
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,959
Speaker 1: was gonna get fired, you know, whether it was after

1172
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: an ass kicking like that on Thursday night or at

1173
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: the end of the season, like his career with the

1174
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: Chargers was over. But I'm not, like, I don't. I

1175
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: don't care that much to like get souper to get

1176
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: joyful in other people's like I don't get joy in

1177
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: other people's misery. So Brandon Staley's failure, like it was

1178
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: a take of mine. I thought he was a fraud.

1179
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: And I'm not even obsessed with being right or wrong,

1180
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: like I'm wrong all the time. Like I thought the

1181
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: Montes sweat trade was insane. Actually he's an agent. Pretty well,

1182
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong on that right. And I definitely like

1183
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: people failure, like a lot of people get joy in

1184
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: other people's struggles. It's not me. I don't. I just

1185
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: paid to talk about football and Brandon Staley was, you know,

1186
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: just a major NFL topic, A longtime listener and longtime

1187
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: RAM fan. Two questions. Something I've been thinking about in

1188
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: regards to the mess that is the Panthers. Not only

1189
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: do they have the worst team in the NFL, a

1190
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: possible bust at quarterback and no first round or second

1191
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: round pick this year, and a crazy owner, but something

1192
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: that adds to the shit show is last year, the

1193
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: Rams offered the Panthers two first round picks and either

1194
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: a second or a fourth for Brian Burns. Now they

1195
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: will either watch Brian Burns walk or have to franchise

1196
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: him and pay a ton, or get way less capital

1197
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: than they could have gotten last year. One to your thoughts,

1198
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: second question, you will miss the smug unjustified confidence that

1199
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: permeated through Brandon Saley's pressers. You know once, and this

1200
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: happens a lot in the business of talking about sports.

1201
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: When you go all in on a take, it's hard

1202
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: for people to pivot, and most guys don't write. And

1203
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley like, I'm the best defensive coordinator. He was

1204
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: never gonna pivot off that, So I never expected him.

1205
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: I just thought it was funny and everyone should ask

1206
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: him every single week, are you still gonna call defensive plays?

1207
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: But he was never going to eventually say, you know what, guys,

1208
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: I'm not a good defensive coordinator and I'm gonna have

1209
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: my linebacker coach do it. He was never gonna say that,

1210
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: just like a lot of people with the take like

1211
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: Brock Purty sucks is never just gonna be Okay, I'm

1212
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: on Brock Purty. They're just not gonna say that. I

1213
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: would say the Panthers organizational organizational lea just no one's

1214
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: on the same page. It made no one looking back.

1215
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: Shouldn't you have kept Dj Moore? Like if you weren't

1216
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: gonna Locke sign Brian Burns, why didn't you just because

1217
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: they wanted Derek Brown, Dj Moore or Brian Burns and

1218
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: in order, DJ Moore was actually the third guy they wanted.

1219
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: They wanted one of the defensive players, and they said,

1220
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: no one Brian Burns. Well, if Brian Burns is like

1221
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: your Von Miller, Nick Bose or Miles Garrett, I'd want

1222
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: to understand, I understand it, and he'd be under contract.

1223
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: But he's not even under contract. So what the fuck

1224
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 1: you guys doing. Dj Moore was under contract. You should

1225
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: have just kept him with your rookie quarterback and traded

1226
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: Burns in that trade. Or like you said, you know,

1227
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: if they weren't going to trade him for all those

1228
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: picks to the Rams, why haven't they signed him? I

1229
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: just it doesn't feel like anyone there. There's no cohesion

1230
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: from the top down. It's just a bunch of cooks

1231
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,439
Speaker 1: in the kitchen, all trying to make a different meal

1232
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: charts with the crazy owner. But is the GM the coach?

1233
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: They're just fucking all over the place. This is from Octavia.

1234
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm a Niners fan living in Houston. Nick Wright is

1235
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 1: also one of my favorite sports media personalities, but his

1236
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: unwillingness to pivot off his hate toward brock Party is ludicrous.

1237
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: He says that Purty is aided by other All Pro

1238
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: players and the forty nine ers, but last time I checked,

1239
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: Montana and Young also were surrounded by Hall of Famers.

1240
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: He also penalizes Purty for the fact that he never

1241
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: comes from behind to win a game, but that's because

1242
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: most of the Niners. Most of the time he has

1243
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers in a winning position. I'm not

1244
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: saying Purty is mahomes Alan or Lamar, but what does

1245
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: he have to do to gain the respect he deserves?

1246
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: Just keep winning. I also think like not getting the

1247
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: respect of people to talk on a television show, who

1248
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: gives a shit? I don't think Brock and I know

1249
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: for a fact I've heard some stories cares at all anything.

1250
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: He's paying attention. Sometimes San Francisco media like asks him, Brock,

1251
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: what do you think of everyone talking about like what?

1252
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what are they saying? Like I heard

1253
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 1: someone say this a while back, haters don't even realize

1254
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: how much money they make you. And it's so true, right,

1255
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: And a player who's with someone that's successful, like Brandon

1256
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 1: saleat haters because he was stunk, but like Brock, perty's

1257
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: having a lot of success. The team loves him, the

1258
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: coach loves him, Every Nighter fan with a brain loves him.

1259
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: He's been incredible. He's a seventh round pick, so like

1260
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: to not anyone that can't acknowledge like he's been incredible,

1261
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say, like you're just sticking

1262
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: on a point. To stick on a point, it starts

1263
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: becoming a little skip baylist with Lebron anyone who just

1264
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: refuses to pivot because it's that fucking obvious. Now, is

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01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: he the all time greatest thing since sliced bread? Is

1266
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: he a two hundred million dollar player? Got a long

1267
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: way to go? Like you said, he hasn't come back

1268
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: in a game yet, and it might happen in the playoffs,

1269
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: And if he does that, then what there's gonna be

1270
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: literally nothing else to say. If he comes back in

1271
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: a game, they win the super Bowl, like it's one

1272
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: of the great second years we've ever seen. If he

1273
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: wins the MVP wins the super Bowl. Is a seventh

1274
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: round pick, So I think part of it is like

1275
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: it's all relative, Like where does it come from? I

1276
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: understand if he was imagine I've said this over and over.

1277
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: Trent Williams said this a while back. If brock Party

1278
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: had been drafted where Zach Wilson or Trey Lance and

1279
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: was doing this, we would call him like a generational player.

1280
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: But when you're a late round pick and most people

1281
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: to begin with are gonna be hesitant to hitch their

1282
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: wagon to you as a take right that's not a

1283
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: fan of that team, You're gonna have to go above

1284
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: and be on. It's gonna take some time. It's happened

1285
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: consistently with you know, Dak Prescott to prove he was

1286
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: a good player. Kirk Cousins. It took him like a

1287
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: decade to prove that he's a good player. So I

1288
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: think a lot has to do with draft position. A

1289
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: lot of people just Brandon Staley talk Brandon Froud Staley.

1290
01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: I still think it is truly one of the great

1291
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: great quit jobs in NFL history. It really is. It

1292
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: was a historic loss by the Raiders three nothing at home,

1293
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: like most of the low scoring six nothing, six '

1294
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 1: three whatever games in NFL history have been in tornado,

1295
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: you know, blizzard like conditions, crazy wins, snow, sleet rain,

1296
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: totally understandable, Like you can't even can't catch the ball,

1297
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: can't throw the ball, can't cut or whatever. The Raiders

1298
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 1: lost three to nothing to the Minnesota Vikings three to nothing,

1299
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: did not score a point. Hell, there wasn't a point

1300
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: in that game to like two minutes left, and for

1301
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: them to come back and have forty two points at halftime,

1302
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: I honestly think it's one of the craziest things I've

1303
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: ever seen. Truly believe that to my core. Do you

1304
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: think the Chargers could win a single game without Justin

1305
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: Herbert or would they have gone zero to seventeen? You know,

1306
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: it's the NFL. I'd say, Max with if Brandon Staley

1307
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: had been the coach and you would remove Justin Herbert

1308
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 1: and their backup were Easton Stick And let's just I

1309
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: know he works for NFL Network now he's technically retired,

1310
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: but like Chase Daniel, like that was kind of their

1311
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 1: quarterback room something like that. I think they would have

1312
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: been competing to be one of the worst teams in

1313
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: football because their defense is awful and they would not

1314
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: have been able to score, so they would have been

1315
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 1: really really bad. They would have been really really bad. Now,

1316
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: they would have had a couple of games where maybe

1317
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, if Bosa was on the field and Mac

1318
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: was on the field. Did both those guys get six

1319
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 1: seven sacks total and they win a game like, you know,

1320
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: thirteen to ten, playing like a crappy team. But for

1321
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: the most part, I think they would lose a lot.

1322
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: Are the Giants completely screwing themselves by losing a top

1323
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: quarterback in the draft by winning all these meaningless games

1324
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 1: or do they have something Indo Vido Jones clearly not

1325
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 1: the guy. You know. I'm torn on this because I

1326
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: talk a lot of shit about the end when it

1327
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 1: comes to tanking. I think teams trying to lose right

1328
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 1: in December, which a lot of teams do, and obviously

1329
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 1: a lot of teams tank down the stretch of the season.

1330
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: It's just bad business. And the media loves it, right,

1331
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 1: But the media loves a lot of things that the

1332
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 1: fans don't. That there's a huge disconnect between people that

1333
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: cover sports and people that provide all the money for sports,

1334
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: given that they're the fans, right, And I think, listen,

1335
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: in football, one of its great attributes that other sports

1336
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: don't have is everyone tries all the time, right, even

1337
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: as when I worked in the front office, Like we're

1338
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: talking about draft picks in October but coaches and players

1339
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: do not care at all. The coaches don't get involved

1340
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,959
Speaker 1: in the draft process till like March first, like the combine,

1341
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: so they're not even thinking about that yet. That when

1342
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 1: it comes to the players, I mean most of the players,

1343
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: you're like travel on Saturday. You're not super locked in.

1344
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: You don't even care because that guy they draft might

1345
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 1: take your job. This is not guaranteed contracts, so you

1346
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: should always try. And de Vito to me, was a

1347
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: fun story played with the Saints. Did not go as

1348
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: well and obviously got Kote in that game, but I

1349
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 1: think da Vito could still be a backup quarterback. And

1350
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: the problem is then you got a ton of You

1351
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: got a highly highly paid backup fringe, not great starter

1352
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 1: in Daniel Jones coming off in ACL Tommy DeVito. Your

1353
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 1: quarterback room has kind of in shambles. But these last

1354
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: three weeks you played the Eagles twice. It does not

1355
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,600
Speaker 1: behoove you to beat them, but they're gonna try to

1356
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 1: beat them. And I'm recording this before the Monday night game.

1357
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: It would not shock me if one of those games

1358
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: gets weird, if one of those games against the Giants

1359
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: get weird. I mean Brian Daml's gonna try to beat

1360
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: those guys. I'll promise you that. So we'll wink, So

1361
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: we'll just the players. Let's be honest. Dennis Allen is

1362
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: the biggest clown in the league. Do you think the

1363
01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: Saints regret not hiring a quality offensive coordinator Eric b Enemy.

1364
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: Do you think they need to go after a big

1365
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: name like Bill or Tomlin. Well, here's where you guys

1366
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: might be screwed. You play the Rams on Thursday night,

1367
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: which is gonna be a really tough game in LA.

1368
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: I think I haven't looked at the line yet, but

1369
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: i'd imagine LA's favorite. You lose that game, then I

1370
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 1: think your last two games are relatively easy. So let's

1371
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 1: say you get to nine and eight. Let's say you

1372
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: make the playoffs at nine and eight. I don't know

1373
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: if he gets fired at nine and eight. To me,

1374
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 1: for him to get fired, I think he's got to

1375
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: go eight to nine. In fairness to the Saints, Sean quit.

1376
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: He had been doing an awesome job as a defensive coordinator.

1377
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: He's a pretty impressive guy, like when you talk to him,

1378
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: clearly as a head coach, he's a little over his head.

1379
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 1: Knows nothing about offense, so he's very beholden to the

1380
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: whoever his coordinator is. I wonder if they wanted to

1381
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: keep a Sean Payton guy in there. Eric bnemy is

1382
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: not like had a good year. Washington's a fucking joke.

1383
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they are this notion that like Eric bnemy

1384
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: is having success. I don't know where. Sometimes I see that,

1385
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 1: like on the interweb, like are we following the same league?

1386
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: Like are we watching? What were we talking about? It's

1387
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: been he's been a disaster. So I don't think that

1388
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: would have guaranteed them anything by any means. Non sports question.

1389
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: I grew up in the East Bay, Antioch, California, Class

1390
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 1: of nine Antioch High School. My older brother that is

1391
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: around your age, is the class of O two. Where

1392
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: is the East Bay? Did you grow up? Love the show?

1393
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: I grew up in Davis, California, so I grew up

1394
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: closer to Sacramento than I did San Francisco. Born and

1395
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 1: raised in Davis is where I grew up and then

1396
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: I lived. I lived in the city for a year,

1397
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 1: I lived in Emoryville for a couple and then I

1398
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 1: lived in Walnut Creek from like twenty sixteen till I

1399
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 1: moved here in twenty twenty two. If you were just

1400
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 1: hired as a GM, what are you the first there

1401
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: are three things you're doing outside of quarterback and a

1402
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: head coach, So basically there are three things you think

1403
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: every GM should do. Well, that's a good question. Obviously,

1404
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: if you're hired to hire the coach, there is no

1405
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 1: bigger job like that is your entire livelihood. So does

1406
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: the coach hire me? Because if the coach hires me,

1407
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 1: then I'm not really in charge of anything when it

1408
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 1: comes to his staff. If I hire the coach depending

1409
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: on his background, let's say he's an offensive coach, I

1410
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: am going to put a ton of emphasis on who

1411
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: we hire as a defensive coordinator. And when I got

1412
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 1: hired as a GM, I would tell my owner, whatever

1413
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: coach we hire the opposite side of the ball, that

1414
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 1: that guy's on. And again my focus would be on

1415
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: an offensive head coach. But if it is a defensive

1416
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: head coach, we have to pay pay the highest paid

1417
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in the NFL or the highest paid defensive

1418
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: coordinator like last year Miami they got Vic Fang. We

1419
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: have to put a premium on that side of the ball,

1420
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 1: right and then depending on my team, like do I

1421
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: take over the Chargers and we have Justin Herbert? Because

1422
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: if I do, then everything around my process is how

1423
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: do I help that guy out? And the easiest way

1424
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: to help that guy out is improve my offensive line,

1425
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: get a physical running back, get him a good tight end.

1426
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: If I go to a team that does not have

1427
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: a quarterback, right, I need to find a way to

1428
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: get one. So where are we drafting? How do we

1429
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: evaluate the quarterbacks in this draft? Who's in the free

1430
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: agent market? So everything to me would start with the

1431
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: quarterback and the coaching staff, and then from there it's

1432
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 1: just one thing I would make mandatory with my team

1433
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: that would be borderline. We don't budge off this philosophy

1434
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: anyone we invest in, especially if we're starting from scratch.

1435
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: We do not budge when it comes to football character. Right,

1436
01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: So any guy that we acquire in the building has

1437
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: to fucking love football. And I think a lot of

1438
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 1: teams say that and then they give in because of

1439
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: the talent. And I think if you look at the

1440
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 1: Chiefs over the last five or six years, if you

1441
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: look at the forty nine Ers right now, Hell, if

1442
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: you look at the Rams, like the way they're playing

1443
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: right now, just like all their guys are just football junkies.

1444
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: When you get guys who are good at football but

1445
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 1: don't care that much, you know, you get situations like

1446
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: the Steelers just had with George Pickens, who had some

1447
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: major red flags coming out of college, and all of

1448
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 1: a sudden some stuff's happened. It's like, oh, what's this

1449
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: guy's deal? Well, you know, for everyone that Tomlin turns around,

1450
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 1: some become edicches. So to me, the coaching staff and

1451
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 1: the quarterback, we can't talk about that enough because it

1452
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 1: doesn't matter who my middle linebacker is if we don't

1453
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: have my coaching staff in the quarterback situation figured it out.

1454
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: And I'd argue even if we have the quarterback, like

1455
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 1: if Justin if I went to the Chargers, like we

1456
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 1: need to get a good backup quarterback. Look at the

1457
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: Bengals this year, like Jake Browning's a real backup quarterback,

1458
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: Like the forty invested in Sam Darnold. Who listen, is

1459
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: he great? I don't know? But could they win a

1460
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: couple games with him? So I think everything has to

1461
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: revolve around those guys. And when you get the job,

1462
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:12,600
Speaker 1: you have to talk to the owner, like, are you

1463
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: gonna give me the resources to spend on a defensive

1464
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: five million dollars spend on a defensive coordinator? Can I

1465
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,879
Speaker 1: get a Dan Quinn, a Vic Fangio of Todd Bowles available?

1466
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 1: I want to get those guys. I don't want. You know,

1467
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:25,480
Speaker 1: this guy was pretty good. Now I want the best

1468
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: cause that's the only way to compete in the NFL

1469
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: is to have a really good defensive coordinator. So I

1470
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 1: think before we get two into the weeds and like,

1471
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: how do we rank the dbs? Like the fuck who cares?

1472
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 1: Offensive defensive line, coaching staff, quarterback. Everything falls into place

1473
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: and guys who were just addicted to football. The Patriots

1474
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 1: for twenty five years put a premium on football character.

1475
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: Their best players were football junkies, starting with Tom but Edelman,

1476
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 1: Gronk mccordy, High Tower, Matt Slater, the offensive linemen who

1477
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: were good for them over that period of time. Football

1478
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: character is so important. I want to say football care.

1479
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't mean like nice guy, bad guy whatever. Obviously

1480
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: you don't want a bunch of shitheads, but people that

1481
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: are addicted to playing football. And I think sometimes society

1482
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 1: is like balance is so healthy maybe for you, Not

1483
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: in this industry, Not in the industries I'm in. I

1484
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: don't really have a life. I just I watch a

1485
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: lot of football and talk about it, like I don't

1486
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: do that much else. Right? Should I have more balanced? Sure?

1487
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 1: Should I do more shit? Maybe? But it doesn't really

1488
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: work for me? Right? Do you? And most of the

1489
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: good teams in NFL history get guys that don't know

1490
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 1: that much balance? Who are football addicts? Shit? Look at

1491
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: Dean Sanders, right, you would think, like, ah, Dean's got

1492
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 1: a lot going on. The guys fucking addicted to football.

1493
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: Was a great football player, quit playing football and got

1494
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 1: into coaching, and he's like, couldn't get a real job.

1495
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: He went to an HBCU because he wanted to be

1496
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: a head coach. They went to Colorado. Say what you

1497
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 1: want about him, but like, I don't dispute that guy's

1498
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 1: passion for the sport. Trent dilferd coach high school. Then

1499
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 1: he went to UAB. I want guys who think about

1500
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 1: football twenty four seven, three sixty five. I don't want

1501
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: balance in my locker room. Trying to win a championship,

1502
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 1: not go six to seven wins. And I would say

1503
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 1: most of the great players are kind of addicted to football.

1504
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 1: It's like all the great coaches are football addicts. If

1505
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 1: you had to rank the top five front offices in

1506
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: the NFL, how would it go On the other side,

1507
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 1: how would you rank the worst front offices? Why? I

1508
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: think the Panthers just have no clue what you're doing.

1509
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: And I think you always have the factor in the

1510
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 1: owner because the owner, it's easier for him to like

1511
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 1: get in and sit in the office of the GM

1512
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: and talk deals, talk economics, top salary than it is

1513
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: the coach because he doesn't know football plays right. So

1514
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: I would say the Panthers right now are in complete

1515
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 1: nutter shambles. I think that they have absolutely no clue

1516
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 1: what they're doing. And I would say, when you look

1517
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: at the best front offices, you would just say the

1518
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: teams that are winning. I would say that in part

1519
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: of it when I say a front office, like, are

1520
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 1: your coach and your GM on the same page? Like

1521
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: Andy and Veitch speak the same language, Kyle and John

1522
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 1: speak the same language. Right, how he's just an elite GM.

1523
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: He'll make he could just make moves, and he's willing

1524
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 1: to do stuff, and he's just always thinking like how

1525
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,679
Speaker 1: do we upgrade? How do we upgrade? And it speaks

1526
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: for itself. And then you see some for an offices

1527
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 1: like the Giants. They're a better version of the Panthers,

1528
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 1: but their owners really involve likes to keep certain players

1529
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 1: and it becomes a disaster. So just look at the

1530
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 1: better teams in the NFL. They just typically have cohesion

1531
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 1: between the GM and the coach. If you do not

1532
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,560
Speaker 1: have that, you're completely fucked. You just long term you

1533
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 1: might have a good season, but over a longer period

1534
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: of time, you have no shot. You just don't. Everyone

1535
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: talking about Tomlin and Belichick getting fired to only talk

1536
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: about where they would go, But nobody seems to have

1537
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: ideas on who the teams would hire to replace them.

1538
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 1: We've seen Billy oh and Josh McDaniels crash and burn

1539
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: and other than Ben Johnson Detroit, I don't know who

1540
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 1: would be a good replacement. Well, there was a report

1541
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 1: this week the Jerrod Mayo, the longtime Patriot linebacker and

1542
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:07,759
Speaker 1: now he's been on the coaching staff for a while,

1543
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 1: signed an off season contract to be the air parent

1544
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: toward Belichick. Now does that come to fruition? I don't know,

1545
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 1: but a lot of people think that Girrod Mayo is

1546
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: going to be the next head coach of the New

1547
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 1: England Patriots. I'm operating under that assumption based on, you know,

1548
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 1: just the contract, what people say. Who knows if it

1549
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: actually plays out that way, But I think Girod Mayo

1550
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: will be the coach the Steelers. That's a hell of

1551
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 1: a question because when they hired Mike Tomlin, no one

1552
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: thought they would hire Mike Tomlin, right, so people would

1553
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: be very very interested in that job. Now who they

1554
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: would hire, no clue. They are another front office that

1555
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 1: I've had someboddies tell me, you know, they're not quite

1556
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: as good as they used to be. The Ravens are

1557
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: another front office. It's really good. But the Steelers, like,

1558
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't really see it. They have

1559
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: a couple of high end players. But the more and

1560
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 1: more of the season goes like, what the fuck am

1561
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: I watching? How are you guys? Just terrible? Who on

1562
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 1: that team, whether it was Tomlin, whether it was someone

1563
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 1: in the front office said we need to extend mister bisky.

1564
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: Whoever said that, I can't take you seriously, I really can't.

1565
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 1: And everyone makes mistakes but you had already had mister

1566
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: Biskey in your team and then you extended him. You're

1567
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 1: fucking out of your mind? Are you insane? That's he's

1568
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: objectively awful. He's just not. If you have to play

1569
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: mister Bisky, you will lose. And when you extend a

1570
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 1: guy as your backup quarterback, he's one ankle injury away

1571
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:34,839
Speaker 1: from starting seven games. So I would say the Steelers

1572
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 1: have fallen off a cliff. I know you said on

1573
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 1: record you didn't think Gannon would end up being a

1574
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 1: good head coach. It's early, but the way the players

1575
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 1: seem to be responding, what are your thoughts on him now? Well,

1576
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 1: their team's terrible. I mean they're gonna they're gonna draft

1577
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 1: three overall or potentially two. We'll see how the next

1578
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 1: three or four three weeks plays out. But one thing

1579
01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:00,680
Speaker 1: I had heard. My reaction was more just anytime you

1580
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 1: give a guy with not that much experience a shot,

1581
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: it's pretty risky. But my people with like i'd heard

1582
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: things of people that had worked with Brandon Staley, was like, no,

1583
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 1: it all kind of a douche. People in Philly love

1584
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon. I can't get anyone during when he was there,

1585
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: and they would have moments on defense, no one would

1586
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: say a bad word. They love the guy. So my

1587
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 1: opinion was more like, this is pretty risky, not the

1588
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 1: pew pew pew and you know all that stuff, because

1589
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 1: clearly his team plays hard. People I know that have

1590
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: been around him really liked him. That's the thing with

1591
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 1: the Eagles, like Shane Steichen was viewed very very highly.

1592
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 1: Clearly he's an awesome offensive mind. And Gannon from a

1593
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: leadership standpoint, I mean, the story came out that Sean

1594
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 1: decih lack confidence, like that ain't Gannon's deal. Gannon's a

1595
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 1: good leader, He's good with the players. Schematically, is he great?

1596
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it's hard to even judge him.

1597
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: The Cardinals are terrible. But my take always is like

1598
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: when Kyle Shanahan became the head coach coach of the

1599
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: forty nine, he had been coordinated for like a decade.

1600
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: It's like part of getting a head coaching job, experience

1601
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 1: matters so much, and even then it's going to be

1602
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 1: learning on the fly. So if you're not hiring a

1603
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy or an Andy Reid or a Pete Carroll,

1604
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: a guy that has been a head coach before, the

1605
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 1: learning on the job transition is huge. So if you

1606
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of experience at your expertise at

1607
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 1: the NFL, because like coaching in the NFL and coaching

1608
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,759
Speaker 1: in college or like two different industries, Like the game

1609
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 1: is somewhat the same, most of the rules are the same,

1610
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: but everything outside of the of the sixty minutes that's

1611
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 1: played on a football field is completely different. How you

1612
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: acquire players, how you coach, the time you have the time,

1613
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 1: you don't have everything surrounding football, and I just think experience.

1614
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 1: Experience matters an anty Walker life. It doesn't mean there

1615
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 1: are certain people who are just destined to be great,

1616
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 1: but most people in football have some experience before they

1617
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 1: have success or have a chance to have success. I

1618
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 1: hear people talk about Kellen or getting a chance at

1619
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 1: the Charger's head coaching job. He got fired by Dallas

1620
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: and this year the Dallas offense improved. Moore got the

1621
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,560
Speaker 1: OC job in LA and the Chargers OZ was still trash,

1622
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: Herbert has regressed, and Eckler's underutilized and basically looked like

1623
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: a bum. Why is more even in the conversation when

1624
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 1: it comes to head coaching jobs. I think once you

1625
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: get your name in the cycle, like once people just

1626
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: start talking about you as a coordinator or as a

1627
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: head coach. I remember I had a buddy who was

1628
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback coach for a long time and then he

1629
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: became a coordinator at a place. I'm like, why did

1630
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 1: you take this job? He said, Once you become a coordinator,

1631
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 1: you get in the coordinator cycle, and then you get

1632
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: several of those jobs before you're kind of shoved back

1633
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: to be a position coach. That's if it goes bad.

1634
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: He's like, if it goes well and you have success,

1635
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 1: you become a head coach, so you change the financial

1636
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: future of your life. And Kellen Moore over the last

1637
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: several years became a coordinator who was highly thought of

1638
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: in Dallas and in the future head coach mix. So

1639
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 1: once you get talked about like that, it takes a

1640
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: lot for you to get kicked out of kind of

1641
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 1: that lane. There are some guys that are just always

1642
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:15,480
Speaker 1: gonna be position coaches, whether they're not great, you know, promoters,

1643
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 1: their agent doesn't do a good job, whatever happen, whatever

1644
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: the case may be. I just think Kellen Moore has

1645
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 1: been in the discussion for a long time as a

1646
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 1: guy that knows offense, and whether that's true or not,

1647
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 1: how many guys would have gone to the Charger situation

1648
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: this year and had success. Piggybacking off of your talk

1649
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 1: about likely Chargers head coach vacancy, could you see someone

1650
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 1: like Nick Saban being interested in that job? Could you

1651
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 1: see him leaving Bama if he had an elite level

1652
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 1: quarterback to coach in the NFL? I can't. I think

1653
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 1: Nick Saban I had someone pretty close with them years ago.

1654
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: That said, the moment he turned down that ten years,

1655
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollar offer from Texas, and this is

1656
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,839
Speaker 1: well before anyone was sniffing that type money in college football.

1657
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,720
Speaker 1: This is probably seven eight, ten years ago, maybe a

1658
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: little less than ten, maybe seven eight years ago. It

1659
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: was like, I think, for the first time in his career,

1660
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 1: he's become very content with his surroundings, likes living in Tuscaloosa,

1661
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 1: likes being the head coach to Alabama, and it's just

1662
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 1: comfortable retiring as the Alabama head coach. So I guess

1663
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 1: you never say never, but I think this year he's

1664
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: in the playoffs again. I think he's Alabama's coach until

1665
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:35,600
Speaker 1: he's no longer coaching football, so that would be a no.

1666
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: But one thing you can't discount is there could be

1667
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 1: some names like damn, that guy's interested, and I think

1668
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: that would be on the table when it comes to

1669
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 1: the Chargers job. I'm a Spartan fan from Hamilton, Ontario.

1670
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 1: Things haven't been too hot for the football program over

1671
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 1: the past couple of years. However, their recent hire Jonathan

1672
01:26:56,479 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 1: Smith from Morgan State could be promising. His resume looks

1673
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: good and it can't be a bad thing to have

1674
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: a former Pac twelve coach when four new teams from

1675
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve are joining the Big Ten. He even

1676
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 1: brought a big chunk of a staff. I don't keep

1677
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 1: a close eye on Pac twelve, so I'd like to

1678
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 1: hear your thoughts. I think Jonathan Smith is a star,

1679
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,600
Speaker 1: and as being a West Coast guy, I thought UCLA

1680
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 1: made a major mistake. I think they should have fired

1681
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly and hired Jonathan Smith because the moment Oregon

1682
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 1: State got asked out of the conference re alignment, Jonathan

1683
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: Smith had to go. He took a program that has

1684
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 1: no business ever going five hundred. If you've ever driven

1685
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 1: through Corvallis. Did they ever win eight to nine? Compete

1686
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 1: to win ten games is insanity, but he's done it.

1687
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 1: He worked for Chris Peterson at Boise State, he worked

1688
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 1: for him at Washington. He's a Jeff Tedford guy. And

1689
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 1: obviously at Oregon State as a head coach, he has

1690
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,759
Speaker 1: been awesome. He's a former quarterback. He was a quarterback

1691
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 1: at Oregon State when they had Chad Johnson and Hushmanzada,

1692
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: so he played. And he's just he's kind of got

1693
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 1: a little Jim Harbaugh. Not like he's a more normal guy,

1694
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: but that's the way his teams play, defense, run the ball, physicality.

1695
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: He's old school for being like forty three years old.

1696
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 1: I think Jonathan Smith is an elite higher at Michigan State,

1697
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna be good. And I think

1698
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 1: it's not crazy. In a couple of years, maybe three

1699
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: or four, that team is not only competitive, but you know,

1700
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 1: competing for playoff spots. And he's talked about as one

1701
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: of the better coaches in the country. I would bet

1702
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 1: on that. I think Jonathan Smith is legit a star.

1703
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 1: I think out on the West Coast, I think the

1704
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 1: last couple of years, you know, Kyle Whittingham has probably

1705
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: been the best coach. I would put Jonathan Smith right

1706
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,679
Speaker 1: up there with Kayln new Boord, Dan Lanning. He's been awesome.

1707
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 1: And you can ask people that you know, big Oregon

1708
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 1: fans that hate Oregon State or Washington or whatever. I

1709
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 1: don't think you'll find a bad word said about the guy.

1710
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 1: I think he's a stud. And I think you guys

1711
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: got very lucky to get out of the Meltok Tucker situation, which,

1712
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:02,759
Speaker 1: let's face it was a debacle, and to get Jonathan Smith,

1713
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 1: who's never gonna be an idiot, but he's a I

1714
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 1: would take Jonathan Smith over Mel Tucker every day of

1715
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: the week and twice on Sundays to be my head coach.

1716
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 1: Mel Tucker's whole career was like got transferred to Kenneth Walker.

1717
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:18,560
Speaker 1: Other than that, the team was terrible and I'm not

1718
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 1: even talking about can't figure it out off the field.

1719
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:26,679
Speaker 1: But yeah, I love that higher really do. My question

1720
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 1: is this from Dean, where do you rank Kevin Stefanski

1721
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 1: for the Browns Coach of the Year. I'm a Browns

1722
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm a Browns fan, and obviously he wanted a few

1723
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: years back, but to me. This year has been tremendous

1724
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 1: considering the fluctuation at quarterback, in massive injuries, yet still

1725
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 1: winning games. He has them infirmed playoff position. I think

1726
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, if he gets the twelve wins, has to

1727
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 1: win it. The Detroit Lions have had ten wins or

1728
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 1: more nine times in ninety years as a franchise. They

1729
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 1: have not won the division. They have not won the

1730
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:04,600
Speaker 1: division since nineteen ninety three. So I think part of

1731
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 1: it is the franchise he took over. Obviously Stefanski, what

1732
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 1: he's doing is unreal. Same with Shane Stiken. I think

1733
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: how shitty the Lions have been. If the Lions go

1734
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 1: twelve and five, they're hosting a playoff game. I just

1735
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 1: got to give it to Dan Campbell based on them,

1736
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: just like Stefanski a couple of years ago. Wait, you're

1737
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 1: winning with the Browns like listen, Kyle Shanahan. What if

1738
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 1: he wins I don't know, fourteen games, well, they won

1739
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:33,600
Speaker 1: thirteen last year. He's got an unreal roster. He's a

1740
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 1: great coach, right like Andy Reid, Bill Belichick. It's hard

1741
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 1: to win it when everyone views your team as good

1742
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:40,759
Speaker 1: and you as good. But when you take the Lions

1743
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 1: and do what he did. It's to me why Stefanski

1744
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 1: winning went to the playoffs, won it. It's really more

1745
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 1: impressive if someone goes to the Raiders next year and

1746
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:50,640
Speaker 1: they're in, they win ten games, they're in the playoffs, Like,

1747
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm giving it to that guy. Wait, you just went

1748
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 1: to the Raiders and won, So that to me weighs

1749
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 1: heavily on how well you do. Now the backup quarterback

1750
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 1: thing is really look at that Taylor. He's winning with

1751
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 1: Jake Browning. So I think if Stefanski was the only

1752
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 1: guy winning with backup quarterbacks, he would kind of stand

1753
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: out a little more. But a lot of coaches, you

1754
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: could make the Stefanski argument for like three different guys,

1755
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 1: and the Browns roster even obviously you guys have a

1756
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: bunch of injuries, you know, Chubb, you'r O line, but

1757
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 1: it's still pretty damn good and your defense is awesome.

1758
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:30,559
Speaker 1: But I'm going Dan Campbell, the volume