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Speaker 3: dunks dot com. All right, let's just jump right into it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Game three maybe. Behind a pair of remarkable thirty point

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Speaker 3: triple doubles from Jokic from Jamal Murray, the Nuggets dominate

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Speaker 3: the second half on their way to the one nine

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Speaker 3: ninety four Game three win over the heat Denver holds

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Speaker 3: the two to one lead in the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 1: WHOA.

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Speaker 3: We were watching on playback and really did watch a

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Speaker 3: dominating second half performance from from both of those guys.

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Speaker 1: But this team overall, wasn't that just phenomenal The numbers,

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Speaker 1: of course, unprecedented stuff from Murray and Jokich, but also

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Speaker 1: just zooming out, not just about the one team, just

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Speaker 1: as basketball fans, it was just great here one to

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Speaker 1: one series, the best players on both teams decided this

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Speaker 1: game is freaking important. And we just watched Jamal Murray

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Speaker 1: in a Game two performance where he only had eighteen.

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Speaker 1: It was a quiet eighteen. He just wasn't a big

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Speaker 1: part of their offense. It was so much of Jokic

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Speaker 1: and Murray was waiting for things to happen. In Game three.

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Speaker 1: He didn't wait for a fricking second. Game two, he

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Speaker 1: had three attempts in the first quarter. In this game,

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Speaker 1: he had three makes in the first three and a

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Speaker 1: half minutes. He was just focused and as I sort

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Speaker 1: of said about being a basketball fan, and you just

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Speaker 1: see Murray and Jokic running a pick and roll against

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Speaker 1: Jimmy and Bam over and over and over again. It

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Speaker 1: was just it was glorious to watch. It was just

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Speaker 1: so much fun. And the Heat. We can talk about

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Speaker 1: the second half where yeah, the Nuggets really exploded, but

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Speaker 1: the Heat had a couple chances in the first half

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Speaker 1: to take control. And that's where I was. I was

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Speaker 1: thinking that the Heat break teams, and I wanted to

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Speaker 1: see the response from this Nuggets team. It was a

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Speaker 1: four point lead midway through the second quarter and for

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Speaker 1: the Heat, and Jamal Murray had just a bailout three

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Speaker 1: that really helped the Nuggets stay afloat because that was

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Speaker 1: kind of the breaking point where it could have gone

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Speaker 1: the Heat's way. But Jamal Murray ends with thirty four,

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Speaker 1: ten and ten, Jokic thirty one, twenty one and ten.

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Speaker 1: Ridiculous numbers. First time ever two guys have thirty point

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Speaker 1: triple doubles. That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: And not in the NBA Finals. No, ever, not in

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Speaker 3: the postseason.

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Speaker 1: On the same team. Two guys thirty point triple doubles.

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Speaker 1: It's never happened before. I think it's hilarious. Michael Malone

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Speaker 1: is a guy who pretends that he doesn't know these

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Speaker 1: stats all the time. He goes to the podium after

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Speaker 1: the game, he says quote, I think it's the first

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Speaker 1: time in Finals history or maybe NBA history, that two

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Speaker 1: guys have thirty point triple doles. He knows exactly, He's

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Speaker 1: just he's one of those people that just pretends to

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Speaker 1: not have researched it, not to have looked it up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the sixteenth digital pie is seven. I think I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure anyway. He just just overall just fun, just just

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Speaker 1: super fun. And Murray and jokiche Hey, we're strong, we're big,

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Speaker 1: we should be able to score. And they took it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they definitely made an effort that the Nuggets did to

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Speaker 3: right from the jump. You said it, and I saw

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Speaker 3: it was always Jamal Murray with the silencer, as Dan

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Speaker 3: Devine called it, so true. Just he can just hit

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Speaker 3: tough shots. That's the thing. He's one of the rare

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Speaker 3: you said, a couple jumpers or he piro wedding inside.

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Speaker 3: He was awesome. But let's not overlook the joker, Yo, kitch,

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Speaker 3: big honey. Someone in the stream team wanted to call

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Speaker 3: a mister potato boat. I'm not sure that nickname is

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Speaker 3: going to stick, but my god, his three games in

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Speaker 3: this series, in the finals, they read like lotto numbers

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Speaker 3: or like locker room combo nations, combo nights. Why did

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Speaker 1: Out funny, Yeah, hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Actually Game one twenty seven to ten and fourteen, Game

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Speaker 3: two here, I'll turn the combo here forty one, eleven

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Speaker 3: So he's averaging thirty three, fourteen and nine on fifty

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Speaker 1: Say those averages again, because I was doing it at

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Speaker 1: the end of our our our playback broadcast yesterday and

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Speaker 1: I was a little I was just I just questioned

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Speaker 3: I think I'm correct here. Through three games in the Finals,

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Speaker 3: Yokic is averaging thirty three points per game, fourteen boards

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Speaker 3: at nine assists. His shooting splits are fifty nine from

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Speaker 3: the floor, forty four from deep in, eighty five at

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Speaker 1: So he's the MVP. I know Hubey Brown, so Huby

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Speaker 1: Brown might give Christian Brown an MVP vote, but he

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Speaker 1: is clearly the MVP. But you're right, we've just started

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Speaker 1: talking about Jamal Murray because we kind of overlook you

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Speaker 1: because he just dropped forty one in game two, Because

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Speaker 1: he's steady, because he's their rock, because he's their duncan.

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Speaker 1: His numbers were will always be there, that's true, and

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Speaker 1: he's going to do it over bam. I think you've

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Speaker 1: got to if you're an opposing GM in the front office,

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Speaker 1: you got to be thinking, we got to get somebody

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Speaker 1: who's as big as this guy. Find somebody. I know

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Speaker 1: there's not many. That's just giants.

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Speaker 3: He's putting up these numbers against bam Adebayo Ye who's

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Speaker 3: Than Anthony Davis, who's an incredible defensive player. These are

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Speaker 3: just like sort of in his sleep. I mean, our

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Speaker 3: But then everybody was like, is it weird to say

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Speaker 3: like he did this easy, like it was a thirty

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Speaker 3: has like another level. That's the that's the crazy part.

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Speaker 3: Like you wouldn't be shocked if we're seeing if we

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Speaker 3: he could do it in the in the right situation.

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Speaker 3: But yes, he had the baby hooks, he had the

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Speaker 3: tapp ins, he had the scoop layups. Obviously he's diamond

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Speaker 3: up guys. And we'll get to Christian Brown probably now.

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Speaker 3: I mean he hit him a couple of times, cutting

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Speaker 3: complete control. And another part that I think doesn't get

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Speaker 3: it because it's not a sexy point I'm about to make.

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Speaker 3: But for all the pick and roll action that they do,

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Speaker 3: Yo Kitchen Murray, how many times does Yo kich pick

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Speaker 1: He's pretty steady at that too.

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Speaker 3: Almost never, almost never, And so credit to him. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna get called right, you're gonna drag, you're gonna

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Speaker 3: he does never gets called for it, and you got

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Speaker 3: a credit Jamal Murray too. It's the timing of when

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Speaker 3: I just thought about that. I was like, rarely gets

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Speaker 3: not saying they're missing it. But that's that's, you know,

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Speaker 3: dedication and discipline between the two running that that two

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Speaker 1: It definitely seems quiet. It seemed like a quiet thirty

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Speaker 1: blown up, when Jimmy Butler and bam Adebayo said, all right,

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Speaker 1: He found the outlet. The outlet was Yokich. And that's

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Speaker 1: much on the shoulders of their best players, and everybody else,

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Speaker 1: this an incredible finals game. Just give it to Yokich,

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Speaker 1: In game two, I don't think the combo Nation even

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Speaker 1: stops at thirty six? I think, so, yeah, it depends

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Speaker 1: but then they said you don't need all these numbers. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: really weird. Anyway, I got a blue one. It's in

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Speaker 1: my head. I feel like thirty two was on there.

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Speaker 3: But you got it on. What are you locking up?

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Speaker 1: Just the lock of locker. I remember we were used

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Speaker 3: Yeah, used to lock there's my crawl space underneath my house.

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Speaker 1: With a with a Dudley lock.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's like you could just break it

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Speaker 3: with your hand if you wanted to get in. Probably,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, just you know, put something on there. Just

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Speaker 3: sleep at night. Yeah, you got the power washer under there,

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Speaker 3: got a ladder under there.

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Speaker 1: I want somebody to crawl over there.

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Speaker 3: I know something you can get in.

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Speaker 1: Uh one of those folda bolt ladders, I.

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Speaker 3: Guess, yeah, one of those.

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Speaker 1: Those are good ladders, lads. Anyway, he's the MVP. Jokich

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Speaker 1: is ridiculous. He's he's he's just knows. He's three inches

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Speaker 1: and thirty five pounds bigger and taller and heavier than

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Speaker 1: bam Adebayo. And he's just so comfortable doing it. Spectacular stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I just love how they're doing it from inside

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Speaker 1: the arc. A lot of critics and even me sometimes

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Speaker 1: I don't want a three point game or a three

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Speaker 1: point shooting game just all night long, let's go back

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Speaker 1: and forth. This Nuggets team is doing it from inside

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Speaker 1: the arc. Not a big part of their win. Shooting

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Speaker 1: He played twenty one minutes, MPJ, I don't think I can

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a tough series for Jimmy Butler to

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Speaker 3: Really, do you think a part of it was Gabe

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you only had seven points last night two

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Speaker 1: Wha, it's like the days of plumbers back there twenty five. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: So the team that takes Game three of a one

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Speaker 3: title eighty percent of the time, right, Yeah, testing you there.

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Speaker 1: But that's the last time I'm doing percentages this season.

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Speaker 3: But listen to this.

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Speaker 1: I don't care about these others. Yeah I know, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Teams have rallied from two one deficit to win the

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Speaker 1: Last year, last year, Warriors.

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Speaker 3: Twy fifteen, Warriors twenty thirteen, Heat twenty eleven Mavericks against

431
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 3: the Heat. So you know this is not this is

432
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 3: not over. This makes okay. Let me ask you this though.

433
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 3: Friday Night series determined. If the Nuggets win, no way

434
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 3: they he can come back from that. But obviously if

435
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 3: the Heat win, we're t too and we get a

436
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 3: pivotal game five on Monday. Yes, yeah, it is that.

437
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:12,439
Speaker 3: It has to be.

438
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: Yes, It's just great seeing UH players play to their

439
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 1: capabilities and that's why it was. It was fun to

440
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 1: see Yo Kitchen Murray just play to that level. Murray

441
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 1: with this, this, this retribution, this this coming back from

442
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: these injuries, and and guy who was great in a

443
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: bubble three years ago has never made an All Star team.

444
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

445
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you think about it like that, but he's

446
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 1: he's playing to his capabilities. I saw you two eating

447
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: about you know, him being mister Canada. Maybe maybe one

448
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,199
Speaker 1: day being the best Canadian ever. Well, I know we

449
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: do have a two time MVP, true, but but in

450
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 1: a different way the way he scores the ball. The

451
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 1: Nash always said he wanted to score the ball more

452
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 1: and take over in that way. Jamal Murray can take

453
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: over in a different way. He's also playing with you

454
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: know this guy, this guy, ok that we all sort

455
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 1: of overlook that. Another great moment yesterday when the stat

456
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: line came up, it read forty thirty twenty ten minutes played, points, rebounds,

457
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: and assists forty thirty twenty ten. Just glorious numbers there. Yeah.

458
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: Who doesn't like a little numerology like that? Did ESPN

459
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: round up or round down? Sure? With the minutes played minutes?

460
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

461
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows? Whatever that was? Yeah, I mean I

462
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: just yeah. Again, Murray playing way better than he did

463
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: in Game two was great. Obviously Bam could have played better,

464
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: so I was excited to see guys play our capabilities.

465
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 1: I know Jimmy could have played a little bit better,

466
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: but I thought he played great. Bam Bam struggled. It

467
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: was it was odd to see his line at the

468
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: end that he was seven of twenty one. Yeah, didn't

469
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: feel like that.

470
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 3: Well, he started the game so well, and then I thought,

471
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 3: I mean he was killing it there early. Yeah, and yeah,

472
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 3: as the game went on, the shots continued to to

473
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 3: miss and miss and miss. He grabbed a lot of rebounds,

474
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 3: but it was just Jimmy and Bam, And I think

475
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 3: the Nuggets are gonna be content to live with those

476
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 3: two guys trying to beat them with two point shots. Right,

477
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 3: It's like that the whole plan has to be for

478
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: the Nuggets to try and take away all the other guys,

479
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 3: all the three point shooters. You know, obviously Gabe having

480
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 3: a good series up until Game three. And we've seen

481
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 3: what Caleb Martin did against the Celtics. Okay, he hasn't

482
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 3: done much in this he was sick. I get that.

483
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: You know, Lowry and Duncan, Robinson, all these shooters, all

484
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 3: these other guys. It's like they'll live with that because

485
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 3: the math will not work out in the Heat's favor.

486
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 3: If it's Jimmy and Bam scoring you know, sixty to

487
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: seventy on a bunch of shots, it just it won't

488
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 3: add up for them. They need the they need the

489
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,239
Speaker 3: rest of the guys, especially the three point shot. I

490
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 3: think to help them and they need to score more.

491
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 3: That's the other part of this, Like they just have

492
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 3: to score more the heat to pull off this upset here,

493
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 3: this one eight matchup.

494
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, when you get sixty six from Murray and Jokic,

495
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: they're just on fire. And so that's where the math

496
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: doesn't add up. You know, Butler and at a Bio

497
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: combined for fifty.

498
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: How many shots?

499
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, not not not a good percentage for our man Bam,

500
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: specifically for our man Bam. But yeah, Marine Joki has

501
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 1: just played out of the out of their heads. Really,

502
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: what it comes down to.

503
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 3: Does Spoul have any moves to make here in game

504
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: four that you see because I mean it felt like

505
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 3: him and he doesn't like to tip his hand, but

506
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: it was like a lot of like, oh, he just

507
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 3: got to play way harder, Like you know, all these

508
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 3: loose balls, these long rebounds not getting back. I thought

509
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 3: they were lucky they avoided a couple of semi transition

510
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 3: threes that the Nuggets could have banged down, especially KCP

511
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 3: and like Porter Junior if they were getting them in rhythm,

512
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 3: they still couldn't hit them. But is there any any

513
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 3: adjustments you think Spoel might make in terms of rotation starters,

514
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: where you put guys, what action you you try and exploit.

515
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 1: Have we hit the point of the series where it's

516
00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: just no more adjustments, just play harder. Kind of feels

517
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 1: that way if unless it's Heywood high Smith coming back

518
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: and saving the day a little bit.

519
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 3: What go back to Caleb Martin? What do you do

520
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 3: that in the starting lineup?

521
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because then you just get easy.

522
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: Once you saw what Aaron Gordon did in the first

523
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: quarter of Game one. He had six buckets at the

524
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: rim in the first quarter because he knows that if

525
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: he's going up against Caleb Martin or Jimmy or game Yeah,

526
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: whoever's missing, whoever's yeah switching, that's that's tough. So you

527
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: can't go smaller. There's just smaller at every position. You

528
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: can't give up Kevin love size, but Heywo high Smith's energy.

529
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 3: Perhaps, perhaps maybe I liked Malone's adjustment in Game three

530
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 3: when they did see zone of where they put Yo

531
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 3: kitchen it. It wasn't like right out the nail, right

532
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 3: at the free throw line, air putting him up higher.

533
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 3: Sometimes they would put him down like outside of the

534
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: paint on the block there on the baseline let him operate.

535
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 3: There some nice wrinkles there when they saw the zone.

536
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 3: I didn't see it a whole lot I didn't think

537
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: in this game. But yeah, good stuff there from Michael

538
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 3: don't call me Mike Malone. What else you got any

539
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 3: other random notes from game three?

540
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: Well, I think we've been yearning for a Jokic brother

541
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: too to make the camera. But they've they've been in

542
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: the background, the Yokich bros. Right, yes, yes, yes, striking

543
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: ya Jokic Nikola's brother apparently was hanging out with Jamal

544
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: Murray's dad. Clip. Yeah, Charlotte Wilder filmed that.

545
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: Confirmed. I mean I couldn't tell from the distance this thing. Yeah,

546
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: it was.

547
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: Hey, they don't. They don't give people great seats people

548
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: in the media at times. Been there, done that.

549
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: Sure.

550
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: So this video camera, so this video camera worked by

551
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: Charlotte Wilders. It's a distance, I mean, she doesn't have

552
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: a telescope.

553
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 3: And in the clip, it's one OF's brothers appearing to

554
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 3: maybe call over Jamal Murray's dad, come on down, come

555
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 3: down a row and then he's got his big arm

556
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 3: around him and they're like, hey, man, we're gonna do this.

557
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 3: I think he's saying, hey, how are we celebrating?

558
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: Probably right, yeah, why not?

559
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 3: There was a shot Jeff Green at one point last

560
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: night where I was convinced Jeff Green was like sitting

561
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: there going on two games, two wins away from a

562
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 3: NBA championship. This guys played on every team in the league.

563
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: Well then he told everybody to get fricking focused. When

564
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: they gave up that lead, something to you know, partial lead.

565
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: It was getting close. He said, lock in, lock in,

566
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: this ain't over. And I think that's been a fun

567
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: part of these three games that they've both all three

568
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: sorry excuse me, have gone down pretty much to the

569
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: wire where yeah, we've got like a nikolay Jovich minute

570
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: here there. We saw Peyton Watson sneak in yesterday and

571
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: the benches sneak in, but no blowouts. Game one was

572
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: a little boring game.

573
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 3: This one got out of hand. I mean, it built

574
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 3: to like a twenty point point lead, but then he

575
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: suddenly hit a couple of shots and then Malone had

576
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 3: to call time out.

577
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: You're right, anyways, it's kicked ass. That's what happened.

578
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 3: The Heat have lost three straight games in their home

579
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: arena here, which is a weird little wrinkle to all

580
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 3: of this.

581
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: It is weird.

582
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: Obviously losing the last two to the Celtics in that

583
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: series and then now losing Game three. They're gonna need

584
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: game four to try and pull this off. We saw Haslam,

585
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 3: he entered the game right.

586
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: At the end, task I was a little disappointed.

587
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: Thirty seconds left, he comes in, oldest player in NBA

588
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 3: history to appear in a finals game. He's forty two

589
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: years old, three hundred and sixty three days, so he's

590
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: nearly forty three. Do you know who he beat who

591
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 3: was forty two years and fifty eight days old when

592
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 3: they played in a finals game?

593
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: Wasn't It wasn't Kareem It was Koreem. No Kareemwe I

594
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: didn't think he'd be Yeah, I think it was.

595
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: Forty two and fifty eight days. But Haslam has that record.

596
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: Why were you why were you disappointed?

597
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: Well, because he was tying his shorts on the floor.

598
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't ready, It wasn't ready.

599
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: Gotta be ready for those final twenty nine point eight seconds.

600
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: Old old guys always tie their shorts. You're you're his age, Jesus. Yeah, Yeah,

601
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: it was weird to think about it. I'm younger, you're not.

602
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: You're not three hundred and fifty eight days.

603
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: Probably three hundred and thirty days something like that, maybe

604
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: a little less. I'm over three hundred days.

605
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: Let me see. Yeah, your shorts are tired, you're ready,

606
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: you're short a time?

607
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm always ready baby. Uh speaking of fashion, did

608
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 3: you see Jimmy Butler postgame in the Big Face hockey jersey?

609
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 3: What are these going to retail for? If the coffee cups?

610
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: If the coffee cups are one hundred bucks, that jersey

611
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: is gonna be like ten thousand.

612
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: This guy, the Florida Panthers doing their thing, gotta make

613
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: a hockey jersey smart.

614
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: I guess that's his logo right for the Big Face?

615
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: Oh you better believe it.

616
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: With we saw Trey Kirby and Jerome got a YouTube

617
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: short up of those guys testing it out or talking

618
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: to people. How much would you pay for a cup

619
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: of Jimmy Butler Java? What would be your answer? Tests?

620
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: How much would you pay? Finals? Final setting?

621
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: A final setting? Okay? Pop up shop a pop okay?

622
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: So you're you're.

623
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: Throwing some uh some caveats on there.

624
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: Sure?

625
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: How much would I pay for a coffee. Okay, so

626
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: this is a special event. I guess i'd pay twenty Yeah,

627
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: I guess i'd pay twenty bucks and I'd hate every

628
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: second of money.

629
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a lot of money. Okay, how much would

630
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: you how much would you pay Jimmy Butler or to

631
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: make your coffee?

632
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I pay pay more. Of course if Jimmy

633
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: is in there towel over his shoulder pulling that shot,

634
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: no problem. I pay a hundred bucks.

635
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, you probably got to get filming it. Yeah yeah, yeah, right, right,

636
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: good content there. Yeah, that's the right answer.

637
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, And and Try and Rome were there for

638
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: the pop up because he doesn't have a physical store,

639
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: no brick and border, no no. But his goal is

640
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: to get it up to one hundred dollars per cup.

641
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: I love that. The goal.

642
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: That sounds like a lot.

643
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: I guess saw our guy so or at least Trace

644
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,479
Speaker 3: said he paid twelve dollars at the pop up yesterday.

645
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so expensive. I'm interested in what he got?

646
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: An espresso vanilla espresso tonic, that's.

647
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: Right, that's right. Was that even a coffee?

648
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

649
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it was a nice coffee for sure, because

650
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: hot as hell there in Miami. How about the broadcast

651
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: and specifically Mark Jackson loving the Miami skyline shots? Was

652
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 3: he not pumped to see those? And they kept going

653
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: to them every time there was a little lull in

654
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: the in the play, Let's just show you the beautiful

655
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 3: Miami skyline. The Jackson was loving it.

656
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt like it was sort of a a

657
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: kind of a smack against the Denver Nuggets. What do

658
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: you mean, Yeah, it's a bit of a slight. We

659
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: spent too, but they got cool buildings. We spent two

660
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: games in Denver, didn't get any good scenics all that.

661
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: We got some nice drone shots where we were like

662
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 3: seeing the mountains.

663
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: God, yeah, I wrote up, but.

664
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 3: You weren't even there. You weren't even watching You're.

665
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: I was in the I was in the arena, so

666
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: I didn't see.

667
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, there were some nice ones. We saw a great

668
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: red rocks for sure showed that.

669
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: Of course I went out there. I could have filmed

670
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: them for them. I got great videos of the Cores plant.

671
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: That's where the Cours plant is.

672
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: I like Cours banquet. It's a go to beer.

673
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: Gotta go to Denver. How's the how much would you

674
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: pay for a cores banquet tap, the initial tap, that's

675
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: where it was made.

676
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: Oh, from the there's like a river running through there

677
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 3: is there?

678
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, from the falls, you lie on your back, it

679
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: gets poured in your mouth.

680
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: I'd pay for that experience. You should anything else you

681
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: got from this game.

682
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: I don't think.

683
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: We'll preview game four tomorrow on the Drop podcast. And

684
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: by the way, we will be doing a playback on

685
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: Friday night for the sickos out there, so you can

686
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: join us. Join the No Dumps playback room right now.

687
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 3: The link is in the show notes. And then yeah,

688
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: we'll be back here on Saturday morning in the Classic

689
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: Factory to break down Game four.

690
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: We're watching together on playback yesterday. I felt nervous before

691
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: we said that that's basketball, this is and then Jamal

692
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: Murray made me feel like I was right and it

693
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: made me feel a little bit more sane. Anyways, he

694
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: was asked, or he said, if people ask it's a

695
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: big stage, do you get nervous and stuff? He said,

696
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be. That's what makes you care, that's

697
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: what makes you alive, that's what makes you enjoy these moments.

698
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: It's good to feel that. So he was nervous. He

699
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: had the sweats, just like play.

700
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: That should be nervous. That's exactly right. Yeah, I'm nervous

701
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: before every show.

702
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: I've been doing it a long time.

703
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 3: I have panic attacks. I nearly freak out when Asher

704
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: JD goes all right, you're ready, here we go and

705
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 3: then boom into it killing. I say, you look at

706
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 3: my pits doing on them?

707
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: You tell your shorts right there, Jamal, that's a winner,

708
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: those pits right there.

709
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: You ain't nervous. You're not a champion.

710
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: I got I think I just got one.

711
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: That's a good day for you. What do you mean, Well,

712
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: you usually are rocket some great pits stands.

713
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: You're right, these are light.

714
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 3: I think you run hotter than I do.

715
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: All right, I would hate being in Miami. That was

716
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: nice to be in Denver.

717
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: Right right, right, beautiful weather, spectacular weather. Well, Trey, Kirby

718
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 3: and Jerome are killing it, of course with all of

719
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 3: our social media content, So go check that out on Twitter,

720
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 3: on Instagram, on TikTok at no dunk saying all right,

721
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: let's take our first break, and when we come back,

722
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: oh my god, we got a bunch of news to

723
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: talk about, don't go anywhere? One one more? Am I on? Here?

724
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: There we go? Was I on? Oh okay? I beat?

725
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: One more note from or about Game three of the

726
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 3: NBA Finals from Dan Devine, who I believe you hugged.

727
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: When you're in Denver, full, full frontal hug.

728
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: Do we know if Trey is hugged him yet?

729
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a divine hug.

730
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that, he tweeted Denver Ran thirty two

731
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: Murray Yokic pick and rolls in Game three tied for

732
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 3: the most they've run in any game, not only this

733
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: postseason but all season. That was their bread and butter.

734
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: Alright, that's so what you love. That's huge, best players

735
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: putting it on their backs in a big game situation.

736
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: That was great.

737
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 3: All right? Into some news some big news yesterday, uh

738
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: coming out of Phoenix. Turner Sports Chris Haynes reported on

739
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 3: Wednesday that the Suns will waive Chris Paul before his

740
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three twenty four contract becomes fully guaranteed in

741
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: an effort to open up some off season flexibility, but

742
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: both Sham's and WOJ offered slightly different reports. Seam said

743
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: that the Sons are considering multiple options for CP three,

744
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 3: one of which might be waiving him, while WOJ said

745
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 3: that the Suns and Chris Paul's camp are like talking

746
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: through these options. So again Haines broke the news that

747
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 3: it was like he's done in Phoenix. Yeah, he's being waived.

748
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 3: He's sort of excited to compete for a championship and

749
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 3: all that. But then Sham's and WOJ saying whoa, whoa, whoa.

750
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 3: He could be waived, but he could stay in Phoenix,

751
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 3: and we can get into all that. So that's where

752
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: we're at with Chris Paul, and let's talk about his

753
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 3: future with the Suns here.

754
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's still on the team.

755
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: Yes, I know right now?

756
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: Is I know? But there's lots of misinformation on the

757
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: internet period. Doesn't happen so much in terms of basketball transactions,

758
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: Like right now the NBA on TNT account Chris Hanes

759
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: works for, that's seventeen hours ago, tweeted and left it up.

760
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: The Phoenix Suns have waved Chris Paul, making him a

761
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: free agent.

762
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: Right, but he has not been waved at least we.

763
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: Don't think he has not been waived. I do, Okay,

764
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: So he's going to be probably probably, and I think

765
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: he ends up back with the Phoenix Suns, So that's

766
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: that's the whole thing. Yeah, this this feels like, okay,

767
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna be waved, so who's going to pick him up?

768
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: I think the Sons end up picking him back up

769
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: for the VET minimum and just paying him a lot

770
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: less because he was His contract is for two more years,

771
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: but that second year ain't even guaranteed whatsoever. In this

772
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: next year is guaranteed for basically half at about fifteen

773
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: point eight million, right, So that's he's going to get that.

774
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: The question is how how is it paid to him really?

775
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: And is it Is it a stretch situation where they

776
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: do let him go?

777
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 3: Right? If it is, okay, let's go over this because I.

778
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: Know something is complicated.

779
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you said the contract two years remaining on his

780
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 3: four year, one hundred and twenty million dollar deal. Only

781
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 3: fifteen point eight million of that is guaranteed for next season.

782
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: No money guaranteed on the following season, like you said,

783
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: twenty four to twenty five. So if the Sons want

784
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 3: to trade him, any deal would have to be done

785
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: based on his current full thirty million dollar rate. So

786
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: if they trade him, right, if they trade them. Are

787
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 3: there a lot of teams lining up to trade assets

788
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: for Chris Paul? Obviously you'd have to get the money

789
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 3: close to that. We're talking thirty million here, it's like

790
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 3: very unlike.

791
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and twenty days on June twenty eighth, he's guaranteed

792
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: thirty mil for next year, that's right. Yeah, So that's

793
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: the weird part.

794
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 3: So if they go the wave route, there are two options. One,

795
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 3: the Suns could wave Chris Paul and then stretch that

796
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 3: fifteen point eight million over let's say the next five seasons,

797
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 3: because you would spread that out as a cap hit over.

798
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: Your cape, but they would do that seasons.

799
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 3: If you do that, you're not able to resign it.

800
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 3: So he would not be playing for the Phoenix acts

801
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: if they wave and stretch. Now, if they wave Paul,

802
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: they take the cap hit for this season, still his

803
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: full contract there, and then they could attempt to resign

804
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 3: him at a longer deal at a much much lower

805
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: annual rate, which is what a lot of people and

806
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 3: it sounds like you are expecting happens here, Like he

807
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: would become a free agent, would have to clear the waivers,

808
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: he'd have to pick the Suns to then resign with Obviously,

809
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: he could go anywhere he would want in that situation,

810
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 3: sign anywhere he wants. But if you believe stay with Phoenix, then.

811
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: Well let's clarify this. If I know we're in the

812
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: nitty gritty here. If he was waved, which was by

813
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Hunt just waved, Okay, just waved by the

814
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns, nobody picks him.

815
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 3: Up right before June twenty eighth, of course.

816
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he would just be getting fifteen mil from

817
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 1: the Suns on the bets on the books for next year.

818
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: That's part of the salary cap. And then yeah, they

819
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: can sign them to whatever afterwards, like the rest of

820
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: the contract. Right, he could sign wherever, he could sign wherever. Yes,

821
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: but he wouldn't. They wouldn't have thirty million dollars on

822
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: the cap next year.

823
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 3: No, that's the reduced yes.

824
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: To fifteen point eight. Yes, yeah, I think that's what

825
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: ends up happening.

826
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: So Chris Paul is just going to take a discount,

827
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: is what we're getting out here to stay in Phoenix,

828
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: to help their ability to maybe go get somebody else

829
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: to add to their obviously core of Booker and Durant

830
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 3: and Ayton and then Chris Paul and then whoever else.

831
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they don't have a lot of wiggle room.

832
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: I think I think they end up trading DeAndre Ayton.

833
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: That's that's the next step to actually improve their team

834
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: a little bit.

835
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, you didn't, I guess believe what Voga was

836
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 3: saying and all his press conferences as the new head coach,

837
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: like this idea of like, you know, the whole thing

838
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: was like eight and in Monty Williams. So jeez, you know,

839
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: they do not get along. Eaton tried to leave for

840
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 3: trying out loud, you know, signed to deal with the Pacers.

841
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 3: They match that Vogel could like get through to him

842
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: and like get him back to a higher level, even

843
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: even increase just his trade value. Get him because that

844
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: makes a lot of money. He's a thirty two point five.

845
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: Million Yeah, get him playing hard. I think that ship

846
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: has sailed, that doesn't It's year after year after year.

847
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: So your vocal, incredible defensive coach, You're going to get

848
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: him to play extremely hard on that end. He's a

849
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: big body who would be very useful. See Jokic the

850
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: team that they're trying to overtake. But no, I don't

851
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: think so. I think that's an area, an asset that

852
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: they could use to improve this whole Chris Paul thing.

853
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: You know, he's obviously old. He's not going to warrant

854
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: a lot in a trade situation. But this report doesn't

855
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: help his trade value either, the fact that they're gonna

856
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: potentially waive him, so that hurts. They got to find

857
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: a way to improve somehow. They don't have a lot

858
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: of players under contract. DeAndre ayten is their best asset.

859
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: They let him go sign a deal with the Indiana

860
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: Pacers last year as a restricted free agent and then

861
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: sign him back. They matched that offer. I don't It

862
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a lovely relationship and maybe they can reconcile,

863
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: but they got improved somehow. Where are they going to improve? Right?

864
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: And Chris Paul at fifteen million is a lot more

865
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: palatable than thirty million, And yeah, that's the they want

866
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: to be a championship team right now. So I'm just

867
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: wondering where they get it from.

868
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 3: If or when they wave. Chris Paul's sons have five

869
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: players under contract. DeAndre Eighton thirty two point five million,

870
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 3: Booker thirty six million, Durant forty seven point six million,

871
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: Shammitt ten point three million, campaign six point five million,

872
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: only two million of that guaranteed, and then they have

873
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: a team option on ish Wayne Wright. So yeah, that's

874
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of money there with Durant Booker

875
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 3: and Aighton, And that's why they were probably never going

876
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 3: to be paying Chris Paul thirty million dollars this coming season.

877
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: Like that's too much for what you get from Chris

878
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: Paul at this point of his career, too, is the

879
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: other part. But does he want to stay there? Does

880
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 3: he want to be you know, he wants to win

881
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: a championship. You have to believe it is his best

882
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 3: option to stick in Phoenix or is it to go

883
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 3: somewhere else Because Chris Paul, everybody thinks, well, he's going

884
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: to the Lakers. Everybody thinks, oh, the Celtics could really

885
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 3: use a floor general like that to help their chances

886
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: to win a chip. I mean you can sort of

887
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 3: plug him in as a sort of like a starter

888
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: or even a backup on every team. Every team could

889
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 3: be like, yeah, we could deal with twenty minutes of

890
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 3: Chris Paul. Sure at the right price.

891
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why the Sons would be smart to bring

892
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: him back because we know that they're a shallow team.

893
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you want to use Chris Paul who's a

894
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: thirty eight percent shooter from three point land neck. Last

895
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: year he contributed. He's extremely solid, but he can't play

896
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: eighty games and a full season. Yeah, if he can

897
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: play twenty twenty five minutes a game, they need all

898
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: the talent they can get. So I don't know why

899
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: you would let him sneak out to the Lakers. And

900
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: makes sense, Danngel, Russell's a free agent, Russell Westbrook with

901
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: the Clippers, He's a free agent, So one of those

902
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: teams in LA. I guess a Boston situation makes sense,

903
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: even though they have a blood of guards. Really, so

904
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: I think they keep him around. I think that's the

905
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: smart thing to do.

906
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 3: Okay, we will see as we learn more information whether

907
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 3: he gets waived and how they do it, and if

908
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 3: he has the ability to even stay in Phoenix, and

909
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 3: is this is this matt Isshbia and the Suns being

910
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: very aggressive as we've seen here, I mean obviously the

911
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant trade, then the firing of Monty Williams. Here

912
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: comes Frank Vogel. They've like loaded up their assistant coaches

913
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: in Kevin Young getting that huge deal Fizzdale. I believe there.

914
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: You know this this new owner syndrome, it's real. And

915
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: is this Chris Paul maneuvering here to help with the books?

916
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: Is it just a play before the next play like

917
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: you're saying, is it the possibility of trading Eaton and

918
00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 3: doing something even splash here?

919
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: They will stop at nothing to go win the ship.

920
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: It's clear and our man John Hollinger pointed out that

921
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: stretching Landry Shammitt's contract, who is the fifth highest paid

922
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: Sun you know, besides their big four again huge drop

923
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: off Shammitt stretching his thirty two million that's owed over

924
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: seven years would help the books. It's a real. Yeah,

925
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: it's a real. Stan Van Gundy signed Josh Smith. Release

926
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: Josh Smith's ass and stretch him with the pistons. You

927
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: don't see it too often, this whole stretching thing, but yeah, shammit,

928
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: sort of makes sense because the number would be lower

929
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: next year because he's got three years left and they

930
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: need all the salary cap spase and all the maneuvering.

931
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: And then we get into the double apron. I'm glad

932
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: we didn't mention that. But like the new CBA rules

933
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: and regulations and penalties for teams that go way over

934
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: the cap, it's more difficult for the teams that pay

935
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: a lot. There's going to be a little bit more

936
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: parody because of it.

937
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 3: Yep, all right. Some other news. Appearing Tuesday on Showtime

938
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 3: Sports The Last Stand Podcast, Damian Lillard was asked about

939
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: rumors of a potential trade to the Heat, the Nets,

940
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: the Knicks, the Celtics, and which of those teams he

941
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 3: would most like to play for. Dame immediately said quote Miami,

942
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 3: obviously noting that Heat center Bam out of Bio is

943
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 3: his dog, and then he called mkil Bridges his dog,

944
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 3: who plays for the Nets, and said that both Miami

945
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: and Brooklyn have quote capable rosters. I don't know if

946
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 3: you watched this clip.

947
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: I watched this clip.

948
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so did I. It was really weird, if I'm

949
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 3: being honest, Why do you say that weird in the

950
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: sense like, I excuse me. I don't know the host's name.

951
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: But Brian Custer didn't really like.

952
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: Push back on not pushback but like dig deep on

953
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: these answers. It sort of just moved on.

954
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: I think it was forty minutes into the interview. It's like,

955
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: read the whole article, watch the whole interview. Sure, but

956
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: I didn't watch it, but he watched the whole thing,

957
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: I know. But I think beforehand it sort of makes

958
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: sense for him to say, oh, yeah, Miami, that's a

959
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 1: good that's a good option. Brooklyn has a good option.

960
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: If before he said in the previous forty minutes, I

961
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: want I want to be in Portland and then he

962
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: kind of just said, yeah, those are those are good situations.

963
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 3: So that would make me and I will say in

964
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 3: the host defense he does say soon after, like something

965
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: like is Damian Liller going to be in Portland next

966
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 3: year or something. He says like Damian's like yeah, I do,

967
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 3: I see that. I think so. But all that said,

968
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 3: I mean, the guy's throwing other teams out there, this

969
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 3: idea of like I wouldn't mind being traded.

970
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: There like well yeah, oh yeah, everything being said, the

971
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: entire interview, you know, taken into account, you know, regardless

972
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 1: if he said I'm in Portland and then just said

973
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: I think those are good situations for for basketball, just

974
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: in terms of a basketball situation, all that being said,

975
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: he's pretty open about another opportunity. So this is the more.

976
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 3: Dogs man like that, Like that is the reason. That's great.

977
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: Go play with your.

978
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: Friends those dogs. I think this is the most open

979
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: he's been about other situations here going into year fourteen,

980
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: that he's ever been. That's all. I think. That's all

981
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: you can take from it. I think there's a little

982
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: Kevin Garnetti vibe here going on with the Minnesota Timberwolves

983
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: that he would be open at one day moving on,

984
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: even though he wants to be a lifer. But yeah,

985
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: I think he's over. I think the possibility is open

986
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: after seeing what he did last year in fifty five games,

987
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: where he's doing what he can and they still can't

988
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: make a playing So I think it's a possibility. Yeah.

989
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 3: This next one very weird, Okay. According to Reddit user

990
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: Matt Moses, Taylor Swift's tour stops in the US leg

991
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 3: of her Era's tour coincide a little too eerily with

992
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 3: some NBA team's playoff losses tasks. All Right, The theory

993
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 3: goes like this, it's the kiss of death to have

994
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift playing in your city during or soon after

995
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 3: you're eliminated from the NBA Playoffs. You don't want to

996
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 3: see Taylor Swift and the Eras tour come into your

997
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: city on the schedule.

998
00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: Because it's expensive.

999
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: Maybe yes, yes, people have the amnesia when they go

1000
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 3: to these shows. You hear this.

1001
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: News that it happened with the Hawks.

1002
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: It happened with the Hawks versus the Celtics, all right,

1003
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 3: it happened with the Sixers versus the Celtics. Happened with

1004
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 3: the Celtics versus the Heat. So you know, Swift come

1005
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 3: into your town, the Swifties invading your city usually for

1006
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 3: like back to back to back shows. You're in trouble.

1007
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: So where does that put the Heat and Nuggets? I

1008
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 3: know you're asked, you're wondering, You're wondering. Well, okay. The

1009
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 3: closest Swift got to South Florida was in April when

1010
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 3: she played three shows in Tampa. Miami lost its playing

1011
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 3: game to Atlanta two days before Taylor Swift first show

1012
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 3: in Tampa. Okay, okay, but but but but Swift has

1013
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 3: not scheduled a single Miami show. Denver Swifties, though they're

1014
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 3: getting two concerts in July at the Stadium. There no

1015
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: the empower Field at Mile High.

1016
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, football field. She's too big for a too

1017
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: big so I saw blank one on the docket at

1018
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: ball Arena while you were there. Brian Abson is on

1019
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: the docket for July.

1020
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, big things in July. Taylor Swif's coming.

1021
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 3: So the whole point is, if you believe Moses, Matt Moses,

1022
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 3: uh Nuggets are going to lose.

1023
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: The Nuggets are going to lose. Yeah, because Tampa ain't

1024
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: close to Miami, so no, it's hours away. So uh,

1025
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: Nuggets fans may have some bad blood with Taylor Swift

1026
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 1: if Denver loses the NBA Finals. Shout out to Danielle

1027
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: Perez for writing that and me reading that. But I

1028
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: guess this. This is going to be killed. This theory

1029
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: will be killed. Well, they're up to one. Anything can happen,

1030
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: anything can happen. It's not over. It's not over. Should

1031
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: someone book a concert? If Nuggets fans gather up five

1032
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: mil and tell Taylor Swift she's got to go perform

1033
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: at in Miami? Interesting, Yeah, pay her off?

1034
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 3: Okay, Well we'll see if she would never be payout

1035
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 3: first remains.

1036
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: She's got standards anyway, all right, de have you ever

1037
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: gone to this swifty a swifty content. What's on the show?

1038
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure, I'm sure she does. I'm sure she does.

1039
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 3: Final piece of news here from bed online. Got this

1040
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 3: email yesterday the opening twenty twenty four NBA title odds.

1041
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 3: They list the Nuggets twenty four. Yeah, that's right, tasks, Yeah,

1042
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 3: we're nearly in the future. Twenty four to twenty five

1043
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 3: has the Nuggets as the favorites plus five to fifty

1044
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 3: for Denver next season to win the Chip Celtics plus

1045
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 3: six hundred Bucks plus seven hundred Sons plus eight fifty

1046
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 3: Mavericks plus nine hundred, Warriors plus twelve hundred, along with

1047
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 3: the Sixers Lakers plus fourteen hundred, and then it goes Clippers, Grizzlies,

1048
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 3: and Heat with increasing odds. So Nugs the favorite.

1049
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: For next year. For twelve months from now twenty three

1050
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: to twenty four, the Knugs are their favorite. Respect congrats

1051
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: to them. I'm not gonna. I'm not digging in.

1052
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 3: You're not gonna.

1053
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: No, I'm not nah. Well, what do you think? Actually,

1054
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: I think the King's at fourteenth. The King's at fourteenth

1055
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 1: should be thirteenth.

1056
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I think go ahead. Do the Nuggets have

1057
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 3: a dynasty coming.

1058
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's that's what we're getting out here.

1059
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 3: Plus five fifty isn't that bad? No, I mean, if

1060
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 3: they go on to win this thing, why are the

1061
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 3: Denver Knights going to be any worse next year?

1062
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: It's hard to repeat that.

1063
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 3: I mean, I know there's Bruce Brown, got to figure

1064
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 3: out him and all.

1065
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: That, but that's the only guy that they really have

1066
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: to figure out. Right, Yeah, I'm totally with you number one.

1067
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 3: Unless Jeff Green retires. No, he wants to play like

1068
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 3: four more years, they said on the broadcast last night.

1069
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: You called him Julio Franco. I think Nolan Ryan is

1070
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: a better, better example. Now, he did some great things

1071
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: into his mid forties. But they are not missing any

1072
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: of their great players. You're totally right. The only thing

1073
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: is it's just difficult to repeat.

1074
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: But a lot of teams do though, I mean not recently.

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00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: You're right, yeah, right, you're right, yeah, yeah, this parody.

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00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: The Warriors did. But yeah, other than that, these odds

1077
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: are just basically who's good now? Right?

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00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 3: Well, the Mavericks is an interesting plus nine hundred. Now,

1079
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 3: what is what is Vegas's infatuation with the Dallas Mavericks

1080
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 3: Lucas always going to win MVP. Yeah, the Mavericks are always

1081
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 3: going to win the chip anyway.

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00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: Anyway, dynasty is not is not crazy. It's not crazy

1083
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: considering the steadiness of Jokic still in his prime, for

1084
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: watching Jamal and.

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00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 3: With how long they've already played together. That's the other

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00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 3: part of this, right, Yeah, this isn't just like whoa,

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00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 3: they struck lightning here, you know, first year these guys

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00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 3: put together this pick and roll again. No, no, no, They've

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00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: been doing this for a very long time, you know.

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00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 3: Just unfortunately Jamal got injured and there was the Michael

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00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 3: Porter junior injury too. So anyway, plus five fifty.

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00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: They have not struck financial advice. Okay, not financial, they

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00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: have not struck lightning. Although the thunder good odds at

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00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: eighty five to one.

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00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 3: There you did go take it. So you are doing

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Speaker 3: a deep dive.

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Speaker 1: I did no. I just wanted to make a lightning

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00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: and thunder little connection. Garth Brooks, all right, let's take

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Speaker 1: our love country. You're you're a swiftie.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually never mind. Let's take our break and when

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Speaker 3: we come back. Test has tweeted the night. All right,

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Speaker 3: it's time for everybody's favorite part of this show.

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Speaker 1: Tweeted the night, tweet out the night Wow Twit tweeted

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00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: the night is actually a video Today it's Nuggets head

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00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 1: coach Michael Malone talking postgame doing his press conference. Here's

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Speaker 1: a clip.

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Speaker 3: You have to give Christian a lot a loave. I

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00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: feel his play.

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Speaker 2: What a bad press room, by the way, I feel

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00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 2: Christian Brown's play was fantastic.

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00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: Did not look out your rookie, simple as that. He

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00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: just calls out the location of the press room at

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00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: the Cassea Center in Miami. There was some noise going on.

1114
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: There was actually fans cheering, and couldn't I couldn't think

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00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: couldn't do his job in the press conference.

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00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 3: It wasn't picking up on the mic though. He didn't

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00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 3: need to worry about it.

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00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: We do that all the time.

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00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 3: Oh Jesus, there's a dump truck going by outside well

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00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 3: and then we say it, but you wouldn't even know.

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00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 3: Mikes are great.

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00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: Yesterday, actually we had a situation on our baseball show

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00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: No Bunts interviewing Chris Kershner of The Athletic that was

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00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: water rushing. One of JD's kids flushed the toilet and

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Speaker 1: I tried to be professional, just tried to roll with it.

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00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 1: We didn't mention it, and then we washed it back.

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00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: You could literally you could hear the turn. Yeah, you

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00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: could hear it. It was a number two, clearly rolling

1129
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: down on the wall. Chris Kershner on the microphone, Chris

1130
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: Kushner said, what what is that?

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00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 3: Somebody flush a turn? Uh?

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00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, I I do like, uh, I love hearing

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00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 1: toilets flush as we record Gotta it feels like the

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00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: toilet the water running is I'm pointing here. If you're

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00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: just watching or listening to the podcast, it feels like

1136
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: it's right there. We have exposed play right, Yeah, it's

1137
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: like it's right there's.

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Speaker 3: Somebody was saying earlier in the uh in the stream

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00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 3: team when we were talking about our pit stains and

1140
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 3: all that. Yeah, we sweat sometimes in here, like when

1141
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 3: you turn on the AC weirdos and I was like,

1142
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 3: well it's loud. Yeah, you know, there's a there's a hum.

1143
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 3: They don't have that white noise in your ears while

1144
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 3: you're listening to this podcast or watching live. We're doing

1145
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 3: you a favor by not turning on. We suffer for

1146
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 3: your audio enjoyment.

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00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then somebody messaged as we were talking about

1148
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: how much would you pay for a Jimmy Butler cup?

1149
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: How much you would you pay for a quiet air conditioners?

1150
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 1: That's a great question. Yesterday I had on they don't exist.

1151
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: It's tough. It's tough, these these ones that are on

1152
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: the wall, like you know in Europe, it sure is.

1153
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: Yesterday on playback, I had mine on because I'm in

1154
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: a garage. It's hot in it. But I had at

1155
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: a low level. You can't you can't hear it now,

1156
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: but this is broadcast. You hear toilets, you hear air conditioners.

1157
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: But I love Michael Malone getting back to him calling

1158
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: out this situation because I just think he's the perfect

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00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: coach for this team, because there isn't really an a

1160
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: hole on this team. There's no Draymond Green. Right, you

1161
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: need somebody to call stuff out like this.

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00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:34,439
Speaker 3: You're right.

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00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: It is every single video montage when I was in

1164
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: Denver punctuated with a Michael Malone quote. He's the guy.

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00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: It's not it's not Murray it's not Jeff Green. Bruce

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00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: Brown is kind of like their emotional guy. And whatever

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00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: whatever happens in that locker room, I don't know, but

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00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: Jokic Murray like they are emotional leaders, but you need

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00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: a bit of an a hole to call things out.

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00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: And Malone is always always calling things out. And just

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00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: the fact that he says he's in press his first

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00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: Finals game, doing his postgame press conference, he hears something

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00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: and he says, what an awful press room? Just on

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Speaker 1: the spotlight.

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00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 3: He's gotta be uh, he's gotta be careful with that.

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00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 3: Sposter's got to turn this into a bulletin board material.

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00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 3: That this guy's coming into our barn saying we live

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00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 3: in a shithole, saying we live in an actual barn.

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00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 3: You gotta get you gotta fire them up. Yeah, somebody

1180
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 3: comes into your home because I hate this room and

1181
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 3: I hate sucks. Oh man, I can see a KFC

1182
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 3: across the street, so you gotta take that turn in transpiration.

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00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: Is that true? Is there a KFC across the street?

1184
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 3: And I think you should leave the reference damn it?

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00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 3: No two, No one? Maybe one. The gift for seat

1186
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 3: one where he eats a gift for seat you know,

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00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 3: there's a throwaway line where he says he says he

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00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 3: can see the KFC.

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Speaker 1: From last Oh, that is pretty funny. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: Awful Announcing for clipping that ten second clip. I just

1191
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,959
Speaker 1: love it. I like them, Michael Malone feistiness.

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00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 3: I loved the and we were going nuts on playback

1193
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 3: before the game last night, they showed the clip of

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00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 3: him in the locker room. Malone like, oh yeah, hey,

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00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 3: Jeff Green, how long you've been in this league? How

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00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 3: many years have you been in this league? You know,

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00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 3: you could sort of hear Jeff Green say how many

1198
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 3: times you've been in the finals? Only second time? Right,

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00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 3: and you would go around the room, Hey you yeah,

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00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 3: how long you've been in this league? You know? Was

1201
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 3: it Ish Smith? Did he called it?

1202
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: I don't know.

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00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 3: He was calling out a couple of guys, like, how

1204
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 3: long you've been in this league? Ye? How many times

1205
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 3: you been in the finals. Yeah, it's either two or

1206
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 3: this was the only time. We gotta take advantage. We

1207
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 3: got to come out locked in.

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00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: No, that was good.

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00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 3: I was ready to run through a wall.

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00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. So you don't. You don't get that.

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00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 3: Coaches many far you up.

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00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially with Michael Malone considering his best player,

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00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: Nikola Jokicic doesn't like doing media. He'll take the questions,

1214
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: he'll take all the questions when doesn't want to do it.

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00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: It was there before Game one and Michael Malone went

1216
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: for like twenty five minutes, way over time, and Jokic

1217
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: got a shorter run. And maybe it's because of that.

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00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because they know that he doesn't want to

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00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: do media. But welone, we'll just keep talking. I mean

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Speaker 1: he'll literally he'll get that guy a podcast. Yeah, he'll

1221
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: go for twenty four hours and there'll be no more

1222
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 1: time on. Jokich'll get up to the podium, no time.

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00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: That's too bad. Joki will love it.

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00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, FaceTime my horses. All right, guys, drop podcast tomorrow

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Speaker 3: ten am Eastern. Yeah, we'll be here. Get you ready

1226
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 3: for Game four tomorrow night. Friday night basketball will be

1227
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 3: live on playback, little second screen experience for some of you.

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Speaker 3: We really appreciate everybody rolling through. We had some big

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00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 3: numbers last night, so let's keep those going. That link

1230
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00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 3: show notes here on YouTube or wherever you're listening to

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Speaker 3: your podcast, whatever affter you you, so click on that.

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Speaker 3: Join the room eight thirty pm Eastern on Friday night,

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Speaker 3: and then yes on Saturday. Saturday morning, we'll be here

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Speaker 3: in the cl Classic Factory breaking down Game four of

1236
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 3: the NBA Finals with a brand new Now Dumb podcast,

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01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 3: So here for the next couple of days. Make sure

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Speaker 3: you like, subscribe and leave your boys a five star

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01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 3: rating and review until tomorrow. Cooper Bros. You heard it

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Speaker 3: here first. Have a great time, turn up, love you

1241
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 3: guys awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. And remember KFC does chicken, but

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01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: they're chicken sandwich. It's so disappointing, right, That's all they

1244
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: do is chicken. It's not as good as Pop Buys. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not as good as Chick fil A's chicken sandwich.

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Speaker 1: It's not as good as McDonald's chicken sandwich. Right, Wow,

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Speaker 1: you're probably right, right, right am I Right? That's shredded lettice.

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Speaker 3: It breaks the day, people,