1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Hello, my Hollywood and true crime obsessives. It's hard to 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: find a better example of disgrace from movie history than 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: that of Roman Polanski. Loved by many for his art 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: and of course, loathed by many for his sins. Roman 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: Polansky is the perfect avatar for the separating art from 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: the artist argument. Which side of the argument do you 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,319 Speaker 1: align with? Can you still watch Rosemary's Baby? Or did 8 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: learning about Roman Polansky's transgressions forever tarnish his masterpiece thriller 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: for you? Are you sitting there asking yourself who exactly 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: is Roman Polansky and what did he do? Or are 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: you saying perhaps I love Polanski's movies, I love Chinatown, 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: but man, his crimes make me wonder. Either way, this 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: episode is for you. Listen to the saga unfold in 14 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: our story and then give us a call at six 15 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: one seven nine oh six six six three eight and 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: let us know if, after hearing about what Roman Plansky did, 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: if you can still watch his films. I hope to 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: hear from you, and if we do, you might hear 19 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: yourself and the upcoming bonus wrap party episode coming up 20 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: next to your feet. Until we talk again, Please enjoy 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: this episode of hollywood Land. This episode contains content that 22 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: may be disturbing to some listeners. Please check the show 23 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: notes for more information. Hollywood Land is a production of 24 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: Double Elvis. Well have you been Hiding? Old? Where you you? Queen? O? 25 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: The Good nine? Lord run above, drop your down up 26 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: under just for me to love on the way? Have 27 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: you been Hiding? The stories about Roman Polanski are insane. 28 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: He escaped from the crackout ghetto on the day the 29 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: Nazis took his father to a concentration camp. He used 30 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: his murdered wife as a pickup line before her body 31 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: was even cold. He drugged and sexually assaulted a thirteen 32 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: year old girl, and then fled the country when an 33 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: angry judge was ready to throw the book at him 34 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: and Roman Polanski made great films horror and noir and 35 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: some of the tightest psychological thrillers ever made. Unlike that 36 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: clip I've played for you at the top of the show, 37 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: that wasn't from a great film. That was a fair use. 38 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: Sample from the Library of Congress of Henry Burr performing 39 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: Where Have You Been Hiding? In nineteen eighteen. I played 40 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: you that clip because I can't afford the rights to 41 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: a clip from Steven Spielberg's Close Encounters of the Third Kind? 42 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: And why would I play you that specific slice of 43 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 1: mashed potatoes sculptor cheese? Could I afford it? Because that 44 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: was the number one movie in America on February first, 45 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight, And that was the day that Roman 46 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: Polanski skipped out on a sentencing hearing and fled the 47 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: United States forever. On this episode, Nazis murdered brides, angry 48 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: judges and Roman Polanski. I'm Jake Brennan and this is 49 00:03:25,520 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: Hollywood Land nineteen forty three. Krackout Poland Roman Polanski slipped 50 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: his scrawny nine year old body under the chain laying 51 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: fence that bordered the ghetto. Nazis were orbiting the place 52 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: like slow moving satellites. He could almost time their movements. 53 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: But even better, Roman knew how to time his escapes. 54 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: More importantly, his blonde hair meant he could pass on 55 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: the outside less risk of feeling a hand on his 56 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: shoulder and hearing those dreaded words, are you from the ghetto. 57 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes if the Nazis caught a Jewish kid outside the fence, 58 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: they'd rough him up and drag him back. Other times 59 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: they just shot him dead in the street. Sometimes Roman 60 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: snuck under the fence to search for food for himself 61 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: and his father. Today he had another mission. He grabbed 62 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: under the back of a trash cart as it passed 63 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: by and rode it into the city dump laid snow 64 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: dusted the mounds of garbage. It took him hours, but 65 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: Roman found what he was looking for. He tuck scraps 66 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: of sheet metal in a bag and ran back to 67 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: the house of the Catholic family his father paid off 68 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: to hide him when things in the ghetto looked particularly treacherous. 69 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: Hiding Roman put the Catholic family in danger, but they 70 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: kept space for him nonetheless, and a shed out back 71 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: if anyone asked he was a nephew visiting from the sticks. 72 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: Roman closed the shed door behind him and laid out 73 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: the scraps of metal. These were good. These would work. 74 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: He could build his own makeshift movie projector, just like 75 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: the one the Nazis used in the ghetto square to 76 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: play their anti Semitic propaganda. They forced a captive Jewish 77 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: population to watch the films. Roman included close up images 78 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: of vermin that twitched on the screen and then faded 79 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: into images of jews and ragged clothes. Every time Roman 80 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: watched the play of light and darkness, he imagined building 81 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: his own projector. He had the scrap metal screen, and 82 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: now he just needed light. His father had a flashlight 83 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: back in their cramped apartment. In these days, he was 84 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: less cramped than before. Roman's pregnant mother and his sister 85 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: were taken a few months earlier. They put his mother 86 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: on a train bound for the chambers of Auschwitz, and 87 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: Roman slipped back under the fence, back into the ghetto. 88 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: He had to get that flashlight. He knew these streets 89 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: by her heart, and today they felt deserted. His footsteps 90 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: echoed as he ran home, and the door to the 91 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: stationery store downstairs hung open and the shopkeeper was gone. 92 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: Roman looked around, wondering if there was anything worth stealing. 93 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: He took some cash out of the register and shout 94 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: it in his back pocket, and then looked up to 95 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: the kid in the apartment next door standing in the doorway. 96 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: He probably had the same idea as Roman. Where is everybody? 97 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: Roman asked in the square, The kid said. Roman knew 98 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: what that meant. The ghettos were a temporary solution, while 99 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: the Nazi death machine ramped up to its full capacity. 100 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: If everyone was heading to the square and meant the 101 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: Nazis were liquidating the ghetto. The boys had two choices. 102 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: They could join the rest of crackhouse Jews in the square, 103 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: or they could hide and risk getting shot if they 104 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: were found. It wasn't worth the risk. In the square, 105 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: some sixteen thousand Jews waited to be sorted into line 106 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: and then filled onto trains parked outside the fence, and 107 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: there was paperwork forms to be filled out, and these 108 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: things took time. Roman and the boy waited hours, and 109 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: they were starving. Roman walked up to one of the 110 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: Polish soldiers, a young kid in the gray uniform that 111 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: separated the Nazis from their Polish collaborators. We haven't eaten, 112 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: Roman said, could we run home and get some bread. 113 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: We promise we'll come back. The Polish soldier looked around. 114 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: He knew where the trains were taking these people. Offering 115 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: any aid to a Jew carried a death sentence, but 116 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: these were kids, for Christ's sake, Don't run, he said. Walk. 117 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: Roman grabbed the other kid's arm and walked him slowly 118 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: through the archway at the edge of the square. As 119 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: soon as they were out of sight, the boys took 120 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: off running. There was a break in the fence up ahead, 121 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: and Roman pulled the chain link out of the dirt 122 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: and motioned for the kid to slide under. The kid hesitated. 123 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: We should go back, he said, find our parents. Didn't 124 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: he get it. There was no going back, not ever 125 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: if they didn't leave now. The only way out was 126 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: on one of those trains. But the kid knew he 127 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't outside the fences. His dark, curly hair marked him 128 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: as Jewish, as obvious as the armbands they were forced 129 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: to wear. Roman didn't wait any longer. He said goodbye 130 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: and then climbed under the fence and out of the ghetto. 131 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: The other kid didn't even make it under the trains. 132 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: The Nazis rounded up all the children that night and 133 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: shot them dead in the schoolyard outside the fence. Roman 134 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: blended into the crowd of onlookers watching his Jews reloaded 135 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: onto trains bound for Belzek, Treblenka and Aschwitz. Roman spotted 136 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: his father in line and ran up to him. His 137 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: father swatted him away, Get lost, kid. His father looked 138 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: at Roman like he didn't know him. He looked at 139 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: the Nazis pleading ignorance, and then he looked directly at 140 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: his son, Get the hell up. Roman Polanski spent the 141 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: rest of the war hiding with Catholic families and crackhouse 142 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: scrounging for food in the streets of the occupied city. 143 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: When Poland was finally liberated, it was by the Russians, 144 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: who claimed the country as their own. In the post 145 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: World War two early days of the Cold War, the 146 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: United States and the USSR ramped up weapons production in 147 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: the space race. They also ramped up the propaganda machines. 148 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: Soviets poured money into supporting culture in the Eastern Bloc countries, 149 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: including founding a school for filmmaking and occupied Poland. Roman 150 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: Polanski was accepted in nineteen fifty four when he was 151 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: about twenty, part of a community of edgy and experimental 152 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: filmmakers who worked at the edges of what the Soviets 153 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: thought was palatable. Polanski's debut film, Knife in the Water, 154 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: was one of the first films made in post war 155 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: Poland that wasn't about the war. It was nominated for 156 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: an Oscar for Best Foreign Film, and it rocketed Roman 157 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: Polanski to international stardom. He was ready to hop over 158 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: the iron curtain as easily as he snuck under the 159 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: barrowed wire and closing the krackout ghetto. And his first 160 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: stop was Paris. Paris in the mid sixties was home 161 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: to the hottest film making scene outside of Hollywood. Roman 162 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: Polanski could walk past a cafe on the left bank 163 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: and see Bridgitte Bardow sipping champagne, or Catain Deneux, who'd 164 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: starve Polanski's next film, Repulsion, smoking in unfiltered cigarette with 165 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: that certain French Chinesssatqua. Paris was the center of a 166 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: film revolution, but other revolutions were growing. Wild ideas about freedom, 167 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: cultural freedom, intellectual freedom, sexual freedom, ideas that would explode 168 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: in the riots of May nineteen sixty eight. Slogans were 169 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: stenciled on cafe walls and spray painted in the alleyways, 170 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: slogans like be realistic, ass the impossible, enjoy without hindrance, 171 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: it is forbidden to forbid. The radicals wanted to overthrow 172 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: anything that waked the tradition, capitalism, the church, the state. 173 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: For some age of consent laws regarding sex. They wreaked 174 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: of puritanism. They wanted the laws abolished so the kids 175 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: could be free from the domination of their parents. It 176 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: might have sounded very modern, but that they were really 177 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: talking about was a philosophical justification for sex with miners 178 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: and Romand Polanski, free from the shackles of occupied Poland, 179 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: was listening. Los Angeles was gripped in fear. The celebrity 180 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: set was locking their doors, sleeping with guns under the pillows. 181 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: They looked at everyone with an unhealthy amount of distrust. 182 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: The only stars tourists could hope to catch a peaka 183 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: of were forever embedded in the sidewalk of Hollywood Boulevard. 184 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: The bars in the restaurants were empty. Everyone was home, 185 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: caught in the grip of paranoia. After a series of 186 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: brutal murders just a few weeks earlier, the life of 187 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: actress Sharon Tate and her unborn baby, among others, the 188 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: killers were on the loose and anyone could be next. Meanwhile, 189 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: New York City was on a whole other trip. Looking 190 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: around the lanes on Second Avenue, you wouldn't know that 191 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: celebrities were cowering in fear. Some three thousand miles away, 192 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: a highly exclusive hangout had tables reserved for Andy Warhol 193 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: fade Dunaway, Warren Baby and Diana Ross, and those tables 194 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: were getting used no matter what people were worrying about. 195 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: In California, accommodations were made out of lanes for visitors, 196 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: particularly the male artistic geniuses that the owner counted among 197 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: her favorites. The boys were allowed to bring their arm 198 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: candy with the girlfriends, trophy wives, or that evening's particular 199 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: slice of strange. On this night in August nineteen sixty nine, 200 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: the place was packed as usual. The editor of Harper's 201 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: magazine brought his friend, an investment banker, and the banker 202 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: brought his girlfriend or Norwegian mout tall drink of water, 203 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: and the group was halfway through their dinner when the 204 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: restaurant went quiet. They turned to see who was a 205 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: big enough deal to cause a hush in the cynical crowd, 206 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: and they could barely make out the top of the 207 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: guy's head over the diner seated near them. It was 208 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: Roman Polanski. He may have been diminutive, but he was ubiquitous. 209 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: Roman Polanski had been all over the newspapers that month, 210 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: not for his work, but for the shocking murder of 211 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: his pregnant wife, Sharon Tate. The murders didn't cause New 212 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: Yorkers to freak out. Whatever happened on the Left Coast 213 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: was an LA problem, but the couple was a topic 214 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: of discussion, particularly Polanski, who was hounded by Hollywood paparazzi 215 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: at Lax before he could even identify his wife's body. 216 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: The hostess seated him at the table next to the 217 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: magazine editor, the banker, and the model. Polanski had a 218 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: few drinks and then he pulled his chair over, cramming 219 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: it in between the banker and the model. His eyes 220 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: were unable to focus on anything but the girl. She squirmed. 221 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: She looked to her date for help, but the banker 222 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: was starstruck and useless. Polansky slipped his hand under the 223 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: table and then up the model's skirt. He leaned in 224 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: to whisper in her ear, I'll make another sharantate out 225 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: of you, and he said, and what the fuck did 226 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: that mean? Did he make her a star, his next 227 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: wife or a fucking corpse. The model removed Polanski's hand 228 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: and laid it on the table. She turned to her 229 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: stump of a day. We're leaving. Polanski let them go. 230 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: There would always be other girls, and there would always 231 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: be other sharantates. In the months between the Tate LaBianca 232 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: murders and the Manson family's arrest for the crimes, the 233 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: Ala press, not to mention the cops, were quick to 234 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: slap suspicion on anyone and everyone, including Roman Polanski, never 235 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: mind that Polanski was fucking his way through every piece 236 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: of ass in Europe. When his pregnant wife was murdered, 237 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: the press insinuated he masterminded the crime from abroad, cutting 238 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: himself loose from the old ball and chain. There was 239 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: no evidence, but there were hunches. What was a creepy 240 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: little torpe like him doing with a stunner like scharentate 241 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: to begin with? Anyway? Or so went the thing king 242 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: of the press. Polanski made a public performance of grief, 243 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: but once the cameras were off, he dealt with the 244 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: brutal death of his wife by burying himself in sex, 245 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: drugs and booze. And there were plenty of women willing 246 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: to spend time with a grieving widower who was also 247 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: a filmmaking auteur. Fucked that model at a lansa. She 248 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: didn't want to be the next guarantee, But Polanski didn't 249 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: always take no for an answer. In February nineteen seventy, 250 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: months after the murders, two of Polanski's New York friends 251 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: tried to set him up with a struggling actress. They 252 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: thought she might be able to cheer him up. The 253 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: forcem went out on a double date and then back 254 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: to Polanski's suite at the Plaza for coffee and drinks. 255 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: At some point the actress was filled in that yeah, 256 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: by the way, Roman's on acid, and then the friends left, 257 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: leaving the actress alone with a grieving director who was 258 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: drunk in tripping balls. She looked into the saucers of 259 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: Polanski's pupils and she told him she had to go. 260 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: He tried to pin her down on the bed. Polanski 261 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: was short but surprisingly strong. She barely managed to wrestle 262 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: free and get out the door. She sprinted down the hallway, 263 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: tripping in her heels as she made it to the 264 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: elevator and desperately mashed the call button, but the doors 265 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: refused to open. She turned around, Volanski was approaching. She 266 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: faced the elevator and slapped the button again. She turned 267 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: to look behind her and he was getting closer, and 268 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: the elevator doors finally opened. She rushed inside and quickly 269 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: shut the doors behind her. She washed them close on 270 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: Polanski's wild, dilated eyes. A few weeks later, he met 271 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: up with the actress to apologize. She alleged that after 272 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: he made the apology, he tried to sexually assault her again. 273 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: And it wasn't always grown women that had similar tales 274 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: to tell about Roman Polanski. In nineteen seventy two, it 275 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: was a fifteen year old model. Her parents gave her 276 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: permission to visit Polanski at his home in Switzerland. Over 277 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: forty years later, she went to the Swiss police and 278 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: accused him of rape. In nineteen seventy five, it was 279 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: a ten year old whose mother set up a photo 280 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: shoot for her with Polanski on her deserted stretch of 281 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: rocky ocean front along the Pacific Coast Highway. Over forty 282 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: years later, she accused Polansk give sexual assault in an 283 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: interview with The Sun, and the next year, nineteen seventy six, 284 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: back at Polanski's house in Switzerland, it was a fifteen 285 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: year old. She later accused Polansky groping her under the 286 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: table at dinner while the adult sipped wine and gossiped 287 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: about Hollywood. It took decades for these accusations to come 288 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: to light. But if they are true, then Roman Polanski 289 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: spent the nineteen seventies molesting and raping women and underage girls, 290 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: abetted by their parents, quietly ignored by the Hollywood elite. 291 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: People talked, and people knew what Roman Polansky was all about, 292 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: and so by nineteen seventy seven, someone at Vogue Paris 293 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: surely had some clue that he was all about when 294 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: Roman Polanski was hired to photograph underage models for the magazine, 295 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: a job that would land Roman Polansky in very hot water. 296 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this. We're, we're, we're. The 297 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: rented Mercedes pulled up to the curb. A teenage girl 298 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: stepped out, clutching a bundle of clothes to her chest. 299 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: Her mother stood in the doorway. She was anxious to 300 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: hear how the photo shoot had gone, but the girl 301 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 1: wasn't in the mood to talk. If he asks, tell 302 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: him I have asthma, the girl said, as she pushed 303 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: past her mother. I told him that because I didn't 304 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: want to get into jacuzzi. Then the girl was gone 305 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: down the hall, slamming her bedroom door, and her mother 306 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: was confused. Why would she say she had asthma. Roman 307 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: Polanski got out of the car and sidled up the walkway. 308 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: He wore ankle boots with heels. It gave him an 309 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: extra two inches in height and a bit of cowboy swagger. 310 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: He smiled at the girl's mother, and the smile put 311 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: her at ease. This was the famous director, the tragic widower, 312 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: the man who was going to make her daughter a star. 313 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: She invited Pulansky in and offered him. He sat in 314 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: the living room with her and the girl's older sister 315 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: and the family's dog. Natasha hid behind a chair. People 316 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: may talk, but dogs no, and the bitch was edgy 317 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: around Polanski. He joked about it. He bragged about how 318 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: well he got along with another Natasha, Natasha Kinski, the 319 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: fifteen year old model he just photographed in the Seychelles. 320 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: He got that Natasha to relax, but this Natasha wouldn't 321 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: come anywhere near him. Do you want to see the photos, 322 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: Polanski asked, Of course they did. Polanski went back to 323 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: the car and the girl's sister knocked on her bedroom door, 324 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: but she wasn't coming out. Exhausted, her sister figured her 325 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: first professional photo shoot. It must have taken it right 326 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: out of her. She was just a kid, after all, 327 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: only thirteen years old. Polanski came back with a boxy 328 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: slide viewer in a joint. He blazed it up and 329 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: passed it around. He talked rapidly as the girl's mother 330 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: and sister took her and peering into the slide viewer, 331 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: her mother couldn't believe how shitty the pictures were. She 332 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: was an actress and aspiring when at least, and she'd 333 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: been photographed professionally loads of times, but these he socked, 334 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: bad lighting, awkward cropping. Her daughter looked miserable, and while 335 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: Polansky talked, the girl's older sister made her way through 336 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: more of the slides. She got to one that stopped 337 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: her dead. She put down the slide viewer and looked 338 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: at Polanski, who smiled, oozing charm. Mother fuck her, she said, 339 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: and the room went cold. The dog picked up on 340 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: the vibe and lost it. She ran in circles, she barked, 341 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: She pissed on the rug, and the girl's sister swatted 342 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: at the dog. She grabbed it by the collar and 343 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: dragged it out of the room. Polanski leaned back on 344 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: the couch. That's not the way to discipline a dog, 345 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: he said, calmly. But the girl's mother wasn't so calm, 346 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: because now she'd seen the pictures her thirteen year old 347 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: daughter naked rising out of the steam of a jacuzzi. 348 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: Was it? Her daughter had said, tell him, I have asthma. 349 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: She took one last look at Polansky and said, getting 350 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: the fuck out of here. She didn't dream of becoming 351 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: an actress, but if you lived in La, the city 352 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: did the dreaming for you. Her mother dragged her to 353 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: the West Coast while she pursued an acting career of 354 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: her own that never quite panned out. A few roles 355 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: in commercials and TV, but mostly she found work as 356 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: an extra on the Hollywood party scene. And that's how 357 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: she met Roman Polanski, rubbing elbows at an La club 358 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: while her daughter was back home doing math homework. The 359 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: director's ears perked up when she mentioned she had a 360 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: thirteen year old who wanted to break into the business. 361 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: Polanski said he'd been hired by Vogue Paris to do 362 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: a piece on the differences between American girls and French 363 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: girls teenagers. He was vague on the details, but the 364 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: girl's mother invited him over to the house to talk 365 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: about it. Initially, the girl wasn't impressed, more tomboy than Lolita. 366 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: She came into the living room to meet Polanski wearing 367 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: jeans and sneakers and a baseball hat with her pet 368 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: Cockatio perched on it. She'd seen Chinatown she didn't like it. 369 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: Roman Polanski was thirty years older than her, but not 370 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: an inch taller. Even with his high heeled boots. She 371 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: thought he looked like a ferret, and the dog didn't 372 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: like him either, which was always a bad sign. But 373 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: her mother told her this could be her big break, 374 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: and she hung on Polanski's every word. A few days later, 375 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: he came to pick up the girl after school for 376 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: a test shoot. Her mother asked herf she could come along, 377 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: but Polansky said it might make it hard for the 378 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: girl to relax. They drove up to a hill half 379 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: secluded by trees. She brought two tops with her, and 380 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: after Polanski shot a roll of the film, he asked 381 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: her to switch to the other shirt. She turned away 382 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: from him to change, but Polanski kept shooting. He gave 383 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: her directions bite your lip, smile, don't smile, but he 384 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: was getting annoyed. It was clear to the girl that 385 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: she was botching the job. She wasn't giving Polanski what 386 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: he wanted. Then he asked her to take her top off. 387 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: She hesitated for a moment. This was a man who 388 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: could make her a big star. He could make her 389 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: another Sharon Tea. She took her top off and she 390 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: tried to play a cool, professional secure, but when a 391 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: kid sped by on his dirt bike, she instinctively covered 392 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: herself up. Polanski scowled. He said they lost the light. 393 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: He drove her home without saying another word, and she 394 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: was sure she'd missed her chance. Part of her was relieved. 395 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: Maybe she didn't want this, but maybe it wasn't worth it. 396 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: When Polanski called the house the next day to set 397 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: up another shoot, she felt sick to her stomach. She 398 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: hadn't told her mom about the topless photos, but she 399 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: wanted to give the shoot another try after the previous 400 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: day's botched session. Polanski said this time they were going 401 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: to his friend Jack's house up in the Hollywood Hills. Again, 402 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: the girl wasn't impressed. Jack Nicholson wasn't exactly a teen 403 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: heart throb. Jack wasn't home, but his housekeeper let them 404 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: in Jack's girlfriend, Angelica Houston, was gone for the day, 405 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: but Polanski assured the housekeeper and the girl that he 406 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: was given the ok to shoot here. Good light, he explained. 407 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: He asked the girl she was thirsty, and she was, 408 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: and there was nothing in Jack's fridge but wine and champagne. 409 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: Polansky held up a bottle. Should I open this, he asked? 410 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: She shrugged, She wanted to play it cool. Roman handed 411 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: her a glass. He poured one for the housekeeper too, 412 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: and the three of them chatted and sipped bubbly, so adult, 413 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: so mature. The girl watched the shadows grow long. Weren't 414 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: they about to lose that good light? And the housekeeper 415 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: had errands to run, so she left Polanski and the 416 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: girl alone, and they started the shoot outside on a balcony. 417 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: Should I drink the champagne or just pretend? She asked, 418 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: drink it? Pulansky said. He made sure her glass was 419 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: never empty, which made it impossible to keep track of 420 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: how much she was drinking, and she hadn't eaten. Usually 421 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: there was a snack waiting for her after school, but 422 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: he'd whisked her off before she had a chance to 423 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: eat it. When Polanski asked her to take her top off. 424 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: She obliged. This was for Vogue, not Playboy. They'd be 425 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: tasteful over the shoulder shots. Besides, Polansky was a famous 426 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: She had nothing to worry about, right, let's take some 427 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: photos in the jacuzzi. He suggested. He had the girl 428 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: call her mom first, though, to assure that she was okay, 429 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: But when the girl said her friend hadn't come with them, 430 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: her mother offered to come get her. It's fine, she said, 431 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm at Jack Nicholson's house. I'm with Roman Polanski. When 432 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: they got off the phone, Polanski produced a little jar 433 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: of pills. Is this a kuwaylude? He asked. Champagne fizzed 434 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: in her head. Why was he asking her whether or 435 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: not this was a quaylude? Didn't you know what kind 436 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: of pills he was carrying her out? Pulansky said he 437 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: was worried that if he took a whole pill he 438 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to drive her home. Maybe they could 439 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: split one though. Topless, she got into the jacuzzi and 440 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: tried to cover herself up with bubbles. No no, Polanski 441 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: insisted she'd had to take her under her off as well. 442 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: You could see them through the water. It ruined everything. 443 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: She obeyed and Polanski kept shooting. Finally he put down 444 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: the camera. We've lost the light, he said, I'm getting in. 445 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: She didn't know how to respond, and Pulanski stripped naked 446 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: and got into the jakuzzi with her. He slid over closer. 447 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 1: Panic and Champagne and Kuelud collided in the girl's empty stomach. 448 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: I can't breathe in here, she said, I have asthma. 449 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: I have to go. Polanski suggested she just needed to 450 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: lie down. He said he'd take her home in a bit. 451 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: He let her upstairs and her head was spinning, and 452 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: he closed the door behind him, and then a knock 453 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: at the door. Polanski left the girl on the bed 454 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: and went to answer it, and she could see the 455 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: woman in the doorway. It wasn't the housekeeper, it was 456 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: someone else, tall, dark, elegant. She wanted to call out 457 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: for help, but she couldn't roaman. What's going on in there, 458 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: Angelica Houston asked nothing. Polansky said, we're finishing the shoot. 459 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: Angelica looked past him, but she couldn't see the girl 460 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: in the dark. Polanski talked to her for another minute 461 00:26:50,760 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: and then shut the door. Then locked it. The LAPD 462 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: rushed the evidence envelope to the DA's office. Men ensued, 463 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: sipped instant coffee, and waited for the delivery. Roman Polanski's lawyers, 464 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: the La County prosecutor, medical experts for both sides. The 465 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: envelope was opened and flipped over. A pair of little 466 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: girls underwear tumbled onto the desk. The underwear was already 467 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: the subject of serious debate. The trial was set to 468 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: start soon, and Polanski's lawyers passed on a plea bargain 469 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: intended to help keep the victim's name out of the papers. 470 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: But this evidence changed the state of play. Both sides 471 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: wanted access, and the judge went with a classic solution. 472 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: They would cut the underwear in half. It wasn't that simple, though. 473 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: Every stain, every mark, any piece that could be anything 474 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: had to be split. Both teams sent their samples to 475 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: the labs for analysis. The defense had money and resources 476 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: and didn't have to jump through bureaucratic hoops. They expected 477 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: to hear back in two weeks. Two weeks and one 478 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: day later, Polanski's lawyers called the prosecutor's office. Whatever they 479 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: heard back from the labs scared the shit out of them. Hey, 480 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: is that plea bargain still on the table? The thirteen 481 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 1: year old girl who was photographed by Roman Polanski went 482 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: to the police with her family the morning after the 483 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: photo shoot at Jack Nicholson's house. In excruciating detail, she 484 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: told doctors, cops, and the district attorney the Polanski had 485 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: drugged her, taken her upstairs, and sexually assaulted her. Search 486 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: warrants were issued for Jack Nicholson's house and for Polanski's 487 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: suite at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel. The search at Jack's 488 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: house turned up a little cocaine. At Polanski's suite, however, 489 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: the cops ran into the director on his way out 490 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: to dinner. Is this going to take more than a 491 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: few minutes, he asked the cops. Yes. They told him 492 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: maybe call your friends and tell him we're going to 493 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: Polanski took the cops upstairs, and he was fidgety. He 494 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: talked too much. He was also surprisingly forthcoming. He handed 495 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: over the camera and the pictures. He didn't see the 496 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: big deal. Yeah, she was young, but it was just sex. 497 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: Nothing to get hung up about, he thought. But Roman 498 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: Polanski was arrested on multiple charges furnishing drugs to a 499 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: minor lude orlscivious acts upon a child, unlawful sexual intercourse, 500 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy. The press ate 501 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: it up. Polanski was the perfect villain, a tiny, little 502 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: foreigner who made dirty movies. Did they know for sure 503 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: he didn't have a hand in his wife's murder? That 504 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: pretty pregnant Blonda got chopped up while he was fucking 505 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: around in Europe, Polanski's lawyers went after the victim. Would 506 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 1: she have sex with before? And why weren't those guys prosecuted. 507 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: The girl's name was kept out of the press, but 508 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: with the lawyers attempting to put her on public trial, 509 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't going to stay that way. Her family wanted 510 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: this thing over with, and the DA put out a 511 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: plea offer and Pulanski's lawyers laughed at off. That was 512 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: before they got the lab results. So now Polanski pled 513 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: to a lesser charge of unlawful sexual intercourse, which gave 514 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: the judge a lot of leeway and sentencing, state prison, institutionalization, deportation, 515 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: all of it was on the table. But as long 516 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: as Polanski didn't have a rape charge on him, most 517 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: countries in Europe wouldn't extradite him. The probation office recommended 518 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: Polansky be let off with time served. The judge decided 519 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: not to listen. He sentenced Polanski to a ninety day 520 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: observation and psychiatric evaluation at Chino State Penitentiary, which was 521 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: not strictly a legal sentence. Even the prosecutor objected. The 522 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: judge wanted Polanski punished, but he didn't want him shift 523 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: in a Connie lock up. Using the psych of alice 524 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: punishment would keep the press happy and keep Polansky alive. 525 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: He told the lawyers to go out into the courtroom 526 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: and put on a show, and the prosecutors should argue 527 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: for custody, and the defense should argue for probation, and 528 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: then the judge radition of the sentence they already secretly 529 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: agreed on, and the press would be none the wiser. 530 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: If no one talked about the agreement in the psychovalcy 531 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: came back clean, that'd be the end of the affair 532 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: for Roman Polanski. But rather than report to Chino for observation, 533 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: Polanski flew to Paris to work on a film. His 534 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: lawyers explained that there were hundreds of jobs, millions of 535 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: dollars on the line, and the movie was a hack 536 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: job for Dino de Laurentis, but Polanski needed the money 537 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: to cover his legal bills, and the judge was assured 538 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: Pulansky would be hard at work the whole time and 539 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: he'd return to the States as soon as the film 540 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: was done. So imagine how pissed off that judge was 541 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: when he saw Roman Polanski and newspapers across the world 542 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: hoisting a stein at Toberfest in Munich, seated between two 543 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: teenage girls. Judge was pretty fucking pissed. So the judge 544 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: ordered Polansky to come back to the United States to 545 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: serve his ninety days. Roman Polanski was released, though only 546 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: after serving forty two. The evaluation recommended probation no further time, 547 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: but ultimately it was up to the judge, who Polanski 548 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: had embarrassed in the press by flaunting his freedom with 549 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: more under age girls. The day before the sentencing, the 550 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: judge called the lawyers into his chambers. He wasn't going 551 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: to listen to the psych report, and he wasn't going 552 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: to honor his promise that things were over for Polanski. 553 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: He would issue a sentence that would satisfy the press, 554 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: a nice long prison term for Roman Polanski. In a 555 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: few weeks after things quieted down, Polanski's lawyers could come 556 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: back and the judge would let Polansky out. All Polansky 557 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: had to do was to trust the judge and it 558 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: would all be over soon. As they walked out of chambers, 559 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: Polanski's lawyers asked the prosecutor, do you think I should 560 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: trust him? The prosecutor smirked, I don't know why not. 561 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: He trusted him once, and the lawyers laid out the 562 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: situation for Polanski. I'll see you guys later, Polanski said, 563 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: not tomorrow. With the sentencing hearing later. It wasn't the 564 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: first time Roman Polanski knew he had to get out. 565 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: Just like when he was a nine year old boy 566 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: in the crackout ghetto, Roman Polanski knew how to time 567 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: his escape. He drove to Dino de Larentis's office, where 568 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: Dino handed him a thick envelope script notes location scouts. No, 569 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: it was cash, enough cash to run away with, enough 570 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: to fly, So Roman Polansky he flew out of lax 571 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: that night for Paris. He could never come back to 572 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: the United States without risking arrest, and that didn't stop 573 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 1: him from directing film after film, working with the biggest 574 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: names in the industry. Even years later, as further accusations 575 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: piled up against him in the wake of the Me 576 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: Too movement, stars continued to line up to defend him. 577 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: In Hollywood Roman, Polanski was many things. A genius, an artist, 578 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: a monster hiding in plain sight. It's a story that 579 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: ought to be in pictures. I'm Jake Brennan and this 580 00:33:51,680 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: is hollywood Land. Hollywood Land was created by Years Truly 581 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: and is produced in partnership with Double Elvis. 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