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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,

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Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most

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Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten

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Speaker 1: years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with

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Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows, and revisit unforgettable

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Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Hay,

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Speaker 1: rain drops on today's episode a Reality with the King.

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Speaker 1: Oh honey, we have to get into episode two of

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Speaker 1: this marvelous reboot.

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Speaker 2: I love a soft reboot. I like offing soft. Well, anyways,

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Speaker 2: let's get it too.

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Speaker 1: Thank god this podcast is rated E or should it

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Speaker 1: be rated R? But I digress. I am here with

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Speaker 1: my beautiful friend inside and out. He is my love,

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Speaker 1: the rain drops love him, he loves the rain drops.

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Speaker 2: He is a journalist. Hey, Porscha, give it up or

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Speaker 2: the one the Only? My friend. Dave Cronkheit Akay, Dave Quinn.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Carlos, I'm so happy to be here with you

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Speaker 3: as always. Thank you for.

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Speaker 1: Having me, Thank you for always saying yes to this

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Speaker 1: mess because you know how much I love you.

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Speaker 2: You're so busy.

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Speaker 1: You have a lot going on, so I don't take

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Speaker 1: for granted when you agreed to come on this messy ass.

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Speaker 3: Podcast anything to talk about Atlanta, because we were talking

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Speaker 3: about Atlanta before anyone knew. I called you literally seconds

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Speaker 3: after I finished watching that pilot and or Pilot premiere.

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Speaker 2: It's a new show called the Pilot.

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Speaker 3: Pilot and I called you right away and was like, girl,

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Speaker 3: they figured it out, they cracked the code, and I

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Speaker 3: am so proud of everyone at Bravo and a truly

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Speaker 3: original for like making this work. Round of applause like

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Speaker 3: you just y. It is real good TV. It is

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Speaker 3: a return to form. Atlanta is back.

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Speaker 2: Atlanta is back.

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Speaker 1: And after watching the second episode, and we'll get into

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Speaker 1: the specifics because you know, the Rangers want to hear

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Speaker 1: our POV, I gotta say something that may be unpopular

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Speaker 1: and a little bit scary for people, but I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: sure you may agree, but I'll ask you anyway. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we're only in episode two, so trust me, I'm aware

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Speaker 1: of that. However, what is so fascinating about watching episode

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Speaker 1: two is the fact that I feel like what Atlanta

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Speaker 1: is doing Dave is proving that if a show is

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Speaker 1: on hiatus for a year, and you may lose the

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Speaker 1: majority of the cast, but you bring back a familiar

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Speaker 1: face or two familiar faces with four new women that

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Speaker 1: the show could work. And I think what Atlanta is

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Speaker 1: proving is that that formulas working, and maybe maybe that

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Speaker 1: should be applied to Jersey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's a good reason why you haven't

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Speaker 3: seen Jersey necessarily start production yet. You know, everybody is

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Speaker 3: anxious for what's happening there. But for me, it's been

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Speaker 3: very clear. The network did a full reboot for New

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Speaker 3: York that didn't go I think as well as they

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Speaker 3: expected it to, and then they tried this half reboot,

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Speaker 3: if you will, And I think what they've been waiting

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Speaker 3: similar to what they did with Miami, almost but that

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Speaker 3: waiting to sort of see how it played out, how

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Speaker 3: what they want to do with Jersey. I've always said

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Speaker 3: they're likely casting two groups of women, won a full

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Speaker 3: me is a good sign that there is a world

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Speaker 3: in which we could have a half reboot and see

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Speaker 1: I call that Yes, yeah, yes, So I could not

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Speaker 1: agree more so I agree with you. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: everybody involved in this season of Atlanta. We are two

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Speaker 1: empisodes in and I'm loving the show. I really really am.

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Speaker 1: Let's get right into it because the show begins with

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Speaker 1: part two, Samia's party.

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Speaker 2: First of all, what are your thoughts on Shamia?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Okay? I think what I said to you when

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Speaker 3: her into a housewife? And has she always been this rich?

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Speaker 1: She is like the center and it's so interesting and

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Speaker 1: giving a little bit of Scotty Pippen and Michael Jordan,

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Speaker 1: uh Porscha rent with it and really eviscerated Drew so much,

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Speaker 1: to the point that Drew looked.

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Speaker 1: And no, I'm not talking about my favorite nineties movie.

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Speaker 3: She looked as washed out as she did in that photo.

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Speaker 3: She was sitting there. You could almost see her head

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Speaker 3: I feel like she knew not what to do in

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Speaker 1: No, she looks so confused because I'm like, one of

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Speaker 1: the two things were happening to me that moment Dave

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Speaker 1: Drew knew exactly what she was doing when she made

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Speaker 1: Dennis a part of her storyline. Dennis does not have

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he produced the latest like Nelly record

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Speaker 2: My favorite Juice of Door role will be her playing

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Speaker 2: t bos and the DLC movie for pH one. What

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Speaker 2: is your favorite Juice of Do movie?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's always going to be step Up. It's

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Speaker 3: She had a hit song in that movie. But you're right,

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Speaker 3: I'm not seeing any plaques from Hot Dog Records. But

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Speaker 3: her angel on earth. When she said that, Borsha was

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Speaker 3: And I thought it was fascinating when she was like,

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Speaker 3: about this idea of like, you're not making money off

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Speaker 3: of me and my platform, Like this is me, I

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Speaker 3: own Real Housewives Atlanta. You film with me, you don't

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Speaker 3: go film with someone else. That's not happening, And she

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Speaker 3: specifically said something along along the lines of like you're

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Speaker 3: think is really interesting, Like these women want these men

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Speaker 3: but they do not want that man saying nothing about

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Speaker 2: Oh, yes, the thing is this.

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Speaker 1: The reason why I feel like Drew broke the girl

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Speaker 1: you know, at the fucking like peach pit, do you

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Speaker 2: Like this, I love all of these nineties represents.

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Speaker 1: I know, So in order for me to have any

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Speaker 1: ignorant to the fact that this man is Portia's baby daddy,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like it's equivalent to somebody

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Speaker 1: said it like Peter Anthony Thomas James like go oil,

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Speaker 1: Like you're not going to not only be working with

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Speaker 2: And I think Drew like, Drew, what the fuck do like?

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Speaker 1: And I love Drew and I know you do too,

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Speaker 1: but does call the spade of spade?

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Speaker 2: Drew?

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Speaker 1: You're not that dumb. You knew what you were doing,

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Speaker 1: so for you to play dumb. When Porsche read you,

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Speaker 2: Like girl stop?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you were whend she said you were

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Speaker 3: a low down dirty I mean anytime it gets like that,

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Speaker 3: And uh, I think that Drew is gonna need to

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Speaker 3: She's not gonna be able to last in this group.

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Speaker 3: But she's getting blown.

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Speaker 1: Up like that, No, she got blown And what was

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Speaker 1: always like at the epicode to the drama in that moment.

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Speaker 1: And I will love to get your thoughts on Kenya

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Speaker 1: Purs's scene that I thought was so iconic, just the

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Speaker 2: But Kenya sat there and allowed these ladies to have

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Speaker 1: There are some people who feel like, whereas Kenya the

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Speaker 2: But do we like that? And again, we're going to

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Speaker 2: see what happens with.

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Speaker 1: Kenya's fate once she has her a salon party. Do

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Speaker 1: you like that Kenya's coming in a little bit safer

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Speaker 1: or do you miss Kenya coming in hot?

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Speaker 3: Well? I mean, did Kenya come in hot and it

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Speaker 3: just got edited out? That's what my assumption would be.

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Speaker 3: My assumption would be that Kenya was always gonna be

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Speaker 3: seems that production, you know, after everything that went down,

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Speaker 3: she got her peach taken away from her, and now

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Speaker 3: they wouldn't be looking to put in any moments of

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Speaker 3: the fact that we want to see her in Portion

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Speaker 3: the two of them because she is friends with Drew.

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Speaker 3: But I'm sure Kenya had more to say. I cannot

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Speaker 3: imagine that Kenya didn't have anything to say about that moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that seems to be the sort of controversy

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Speaker 1: that's happened on social media, like are they editing Kenya's

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Speaker 1: present out? The beautiful thing about Kenya the camera loves her, Like,

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Speaker 1: you can't deny that woman if they start, whether you

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Speaker 1: love or hate her. When her and Portion met up

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Speaker 1: are on the verge of seeing something great. The scene

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00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: with Porsche and Dennis, we have to get into that

439
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 1: they're on a play day with their daughter and she

440
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: confronts him.

441
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 2: About working with Drew.

442
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: Drew did say to Porsia in the beginning of the

443
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 1: episode that Dennis was crime, ain't in the studio and

444
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: he pretty much wants Porsche back based on this scene

445
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 1: that was happening between Drew and Porsche.

446
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 2: I don't see that.

447
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't There was nothing in that scene that. Yeah,

448
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything on Dennis side, between Dennis and

449
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: Porsche that led me to believe that Dennis wants Porsche back.

450
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: I think Porscha clocked it. I think Dennis wants camera time.

451
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: I think he wanted to do something that kept his

452
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: name out there, and I think his strategy was well,

453
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it helps ow you

454
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: portion in your storyline, and he's not wrong about that.

455
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: But I think I just don't think Dennis is in

456
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: love with Porsche anymore.

457
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 2: That's what I got from the scene.

458
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't feel like there was any pining to

459
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 3: get her back in that sense either, But he's probably

460
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 3: smart enough to know Porsche and the mood that she

461
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 3: was in and when to sort of push that and not.

462
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 3: I mean, it seemed like he was playing defense right

463
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 3: from the get and just trying to diffuse the situation

464
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 3: as much as he could as he could. Rather, I

465
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 3: was very curious. I mean, she's acting as if she

466
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 3: was blindsided. It does seem that she was told about

467
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: it in some sense, But I don't know. I mean,

468
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 3: it's all very confusing, And I agree he did seem

469
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 3: to be interested in camera time, and why wouldn't you be.

470
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: It's a huge platform, I mean, of course, especially if

471
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: you want to make your mark as the hot Dog

472
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 3: record producer, You're going to be out there doing whatever

473
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 3: you could. That Children's album, I did not listen to that.

474
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 3: Did you listen to that?

475
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 2: Honey?

476
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: I did not know that Children's album existed. That was

477
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 3: the first I ever saw with that clip art cover.

478
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 3: I had never seen that before, not once in my life.

479
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 3: So I'm sure this is an opportunity for him to

480
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 3: rebrand himself and push himself in that way. But he

481
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 3: is not going to be produced seeing Housewife singles left,

482
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 3: right and sideways. I can tell you that much.

483
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no don't be tardy for the hot Dog

484
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: single coming out, do you know what I mean?

485
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 2: I want sausages, not songs, you know what I mean?

486
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: Like I would rather eat something than to hear some

487
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: of Drew's material, if that's the case. But what was

488
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: so surprising to me was towards the end of the scene,

489
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: we did see.

490
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: Porsche have a breakdown.

491
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: She's talking to the producer, Porsche is a fourth wall

492
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: breaker this season. Like she she She's like, fuck this,

493
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: you guys came from my house because of Simon.

494
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: I will break something else as I can't break shit

495
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 2: in my home.

496
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: Right, So she's breaking the fourth wall with a producer

497
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: and she's crying about what's going on between her and Dennis.

498
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 1: This is what I got from it. Although Porscha didn't

499
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: I say this, I got this from it. At the

500
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: end of the day, whether or not you are in

501
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: love with your child's parent, right in this case, Dennis

502
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: is Polar's dad. M anytime as a producer I would

503
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: shoot a scene within a strange couple or divorced couple

504
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: with their child being there, there is some emotional weight

505
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: that is happening in the moment because for that couple,

506
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: you never expected your family to be broken, and by

507
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: broken on me just not together as a unit, right, I.

508
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 2: Think Porscha rightfully.

509
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: So as a woman was with her daughter and her

510
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: daughter's dad and at a playground site, you know what

511
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 1: I mean, like just playing with a kid, and I

512
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: think anybody would be like here, I am arguing with

513
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: you about this other woman, Drew, You're working with her

514
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: and we have this beautiful daughter together, and you're we're

515
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: supposed to be a family or we're not a family.

516
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: I'm I went through a divorce with a man that

517
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna be with, and I think

518
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: Porscha just had an emotional breakdown. Not that she wants

519
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: Dinnis Backlie, I don't think she does, but I think

520
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: rightfully so, it was the realization that I'm going through

521
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: a divorce and my family's broken, and I think it

522
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: was too much but heart at the same time.

523
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and let's not forget I'm returning to the show

524
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 3: after a few years of being away from reality TV,

525
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 3: and this is all new again in a weird way. Filming.

526
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: As much as it probably feels second nature to us

527
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: to see her on the show filming, it probably wasn't

528
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: second nature after a few years away. I think that

529
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: she left with Simon thinking I don't got to do

530
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: this anymore, like I'm going to live my happily ever after,

531
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 3: and then you know, the Real Housewives, Real love turned

532
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: into a real nightmare. And now she's back, right, So

533
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I think that it's a revelation

534
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: of many things. My relationship with my father's daughter is

535
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: not as good as I want it to be. Maybe

536
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: this show affecting that my romance with Simon is all done,

537
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 3: Like where is she in the midst of all of this.

538
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: I have to say good for Portsche for giving it

539
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: all to us. I appreciate that she's not running away

540
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: from things as she has traditionally in the past, sort

541
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 3: of when she doesn't want to confront something, sort of

542
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 3: ran away from it. It's nice to see her in it.

543
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 3: This is I love.

544
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I loving Portscha is able to just be authentic,

545
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: and I think she's comfortable based on the fact that

546
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: she was gone for three seasons and she's back, and

547
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: I think she's really showing us a woman who's willing

548
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: to give it all, knowing that, unfortunately for her, right

549
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: when she's signed on to do this season, she was

550
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: still married and in a happy place with Simon, So

551
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: of course she didn't think in a million years that

552
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: this would be her storyline, because I do think if

553
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: she wasn't going through divorce, she may have I'm sorry,

554
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: if she was going through divorce when the producers contacted

555
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: her to come back, I don't think she would have

556
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: come back.

557
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: To the show.

558
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: Interesting, that's so fascinating. So you think that when she

559
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: was locked in and this all blew up, do you

560
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 3: think she had second thoughts she tried to.

561
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: Get yes, Oh God, think about it. Think about it.

562
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: When Portia signed on, I will never forget her announcement,

563
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: she wore a yellow blazer and Dave, you know, I'm

564
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: a nerd. She wore a yellow and a Porscha stalker.

565
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: But that's another story. So she wore yellow blazer and

566
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: she goes, who said that Porsche Williams coming back to

567
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: the hospitals Atlanta? That's not true, but Porscha Gbadia is

568
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: And I was like, yes, remember yes. So with that

569
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: being said, she was happy to be like, I am

570
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: like this African princess living my best life. And I

571
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: think and listen, I wanted to see it, like this

572
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: fabulous life. And we're now seeing this married couple named

573
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: Shemiah and it's not Gordon, that's me as me Gerald Gerald. Sorry,

574
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: all black dudes through our ball look alike, my bad

575
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: and I can say that, okay, So we'll talking about Gerald, like,

576
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: we get to see Shemiah's African princess life, and I

577
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: think we all expected that to be Porsche when she's

578
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: signed on to do the show being married.

579
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: To Simon, right.

580
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're not getting that at all from her,

581
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: you know, especially not being able to film at her

582
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: own house and how affecting like he's coming after her

583
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 3: money that way in a way that like, I don't

584
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: think most people recognize how damaging that is. You are

585
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: not even letting me film in the place where I

586
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: need to film my personal storyline. It becomes much harder

587
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: when you can't see me at home with my daughter.

588
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: You can't see me with my mom, you can't see

589
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: with my sister. You can't see any of that in

590
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: our in our safe space of what life is like.

591
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: The viewers not seeing somebody in their house really affects

592
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 3: the way they look at those people.

593
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's so true. And I think, listen, I

594
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 1: think a lot of that was just a combination of

595
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: Porcha's tears, because it's a lot to go through on

596
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 1: top of filming, on top of everything you're saying, like

597
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: I signed on to do the show thinking one thing,

598
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: it's the complete opposite, and now I got Drew so

599
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: Doorra who is working with my baby daddy, Like it's

600
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: too fucking much. And I understand what she's coming from,

601
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: but I gotta ask you this. Shamiah is being accused

602
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: of being Portia's lap dog.

603
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: By jus So Dora.

604
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: And the beautiful thing about Angela Oakley that I do love.

605
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: She calls things out as she sees it, despite her

606
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: alliance with the girls. Yes, like when she heard what

607
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: Drew was doing with Dennis at the party, she goes,

608
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: I don't know Drew, that don't sound right right, And

609
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: then when she confronted Shemi about like, yeah, you kind

610
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: of were taken up for like portion away that's seen

611
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: a little bit whatever. But what do you think is

612
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: should me been a good friend or should me being

613
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: a lap dog?

614
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: I don't think Shamia is anyone's lap dog. I think

615
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: that Shamia is here too for the first time. She's

616
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: got that peach. She knows how important it is. She's

617
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: not going to just spend it the entire time taken

618
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: up for someone else. But I agree with what your

619
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: thoughts are about about Angela, and it's why I like

620
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 3: her so much. She reminds me of Bo's and Bronwyn

621
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: and these like new housewives who've come in and don't

622
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: really seem to have an alliance to anyone except for

623
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: in the moment what the truth is. I think Shemiah

624
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: in this sense knows more about the pain that Porscha

625
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 3: is going through, and that's what she's trying to do,

626
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 3: and she's trying to not be a lap dog but

627
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: be a bridge to the frustration that's coming from the

628
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: other end. But I don't think that watching the trailer

629
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 3: and seeing her and Porscha seemingly being INDs at a

630
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: certain point in this season, it doesn't seem like I'm

631
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 3: going to get Samia as as the garcel to Sutton

632
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 3: to Portie or Sutton. I'm not getting that. I'm really

633
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 3: going to get somebody who has her own perspective on

634
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: things and has her own things to say.

635
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: Yes, agree, I don't think Shamia is anybody lapped off.

636
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: I think Shemia is a good friend. I think Shemiah

637
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: Shamia reminds me a lot of like Dolores, do you

638
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, yes, yes, like a lot

639
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: of people. And listen, no one's perfect. But I will

640
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: say this, I think the thing about Dolores, I think

641
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: Delores obviously has the most history with Teresa but she

642
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: does have a fondness with Margaret, and I think I

643
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: think especially the audience of Jersey Honey, they they Jersey audience,

644
00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:00,959
Speaker 1: you have to choose, right, Jersey Jersey is the only

645
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: fucking housewife show where the audience demands you choose one

646
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: side over the other.

647
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: Dape. It's a demand, right, I hear. I know.

648
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a crazy demand and they're nuts about it.

649
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 3: It is not that way in Atlanta now. I want

650
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 3: to be able to love all of these girls and

651
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 3: not like all of these girls all the time too.

652
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 3: I like the movement of it. I have a question

653
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: for you with your producer, hat, I'm curious what you

654
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: know casting these women. You see obviously they're casting tapes.

655
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 3: You kind of talk to them a lot. You have

656
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: an idea of sort of what they're like. How do

657
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 3: you think the producers of Atlanta are feeling two episodes

658
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: into filming as they're seeing these girls actually operate. Do

659
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: you think they feel good about who they have all?

660
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: One thousand per one thousand percent one it's let me

661
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. No production company owner and

662
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm one of them, right, I know what this feels like.

663
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: You never want to get a call from a network saying, hey,

664
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: your show is going to be your show is going

665
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: to be put on palls until we figured this out.

666
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: For two reasons.

667
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: There's a business reason of well, this show pays the

668
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: light bill, so I'm fucked right. And then there's number

669
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: two in the sense of like, could this show be

670
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: taken away from me? You know, because that can happen,

671
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: like the networks have the power to say bye bye.

672
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: Right.

673
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: I cannot imagine, Dave Quinn the pressures that the producers

674
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: were under in terms of getting the casting right, right

675
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: to have a show be on hiatus for a year,

676
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: not just some random ass show. We're talking about a

677
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: show that was maybe for like maybe something seasons or six,

678
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, but consecutively the number one showing Bravo,

679
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: not just Housewives, the number one showing Bravo, then to

680
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: be told your show's on palls, then to be shown

681
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: let me told, you have to get casting right. You

682
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: don't have Porsche just signed on at this moment. You're you're,

683
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: you're you're trying to get Porscha back on the show.

684
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: You're you're you're finding new women and you're trying to

685
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: figure shit out, You're you're you're deciding whether or not

686
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: it's okay that you know Shemiah is somebody the audience knows.

687
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: But does she makes sense if Portia doesn't come back,

688
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: like think about it, if Portia said no, this is

689
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: this is how I feel. I'm not sure that Shamia

690
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: thing would have made sense without Porsche of being on

691
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: the show.

692
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: It would have been confusing for the audience.

693
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: So I say all of that to say this was tough.

694
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this in my life. Right,

695
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: the reboot of New York And this I don't shade people.

696
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: I think we all know the show isn't that great

697
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: and that's whatever. So it's a brand new show with

698
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: a brand new cast, and this is no shade to

699
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: the cast. You can have great individuals, but when your

700
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: teacher in fourth grade calls on you to work with

701
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: four classmates and you guys have the fucked up science project.

702
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 2: All of you guys are.

703
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: Smart individually, but as a group, you guys don't work.

704
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: That explains New York City Housewives reboot. It's a bad

705
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: science project. It's a volcano that got erupted with the

706
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 1: red food coloring that we have to buy at.

707
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: The grocery store.

708
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: So when it comes to Atlanta, what is working and

709
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: this is this is how I know the producers are happy.

710
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 2: It fits like a glove.

711
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does really natural. Do you have a favorite so.

712
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: Far, Kelly? It's something. First of all, I love all

713
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:47,479
Speaker 2: the girls.

714
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: I like Britt, I like Angela, I love Shamia obviously,

715
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: but I wond't call her new because I've known her

716
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: for years. I have never met Kelly in person on

717
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: the streets, at a hookah bar, at NeiMa Marcus.

718
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: I have never met Kelly.

719
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: Kelly is so interesting to me because she reminds me

720
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: of the halle Berry character in The Flintstones.

721
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: Like she's what are you talking about?

722
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: Day?

723
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: Do you not remember? In the flint Stone remember you're.

724
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: Talking about but I don't see it.

725
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you about okay.

726
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: So Ray drops halle Berry play a woman named Sharon

727
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: Stone in The Flintstones. So in the character of Sharon's

728
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: Stowe in The flints Stones, played by the Academy Award

729
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: winner at halle Berry, she was very sexy. It kind

730
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: of spoke with like this overtly like sexual tone, like

731
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: the way she moved. Kelly speaks as if she's like

732
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: a sexphone operator. Some I feel like she is very oohs,

733
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: and it's hark to this crime whatever. Watch the plant

734
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: styles and pay attention to what.

735
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 3: You mean now, so I get that. I get what

736
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 3: you're saying.

737
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: It's very seductive, you know. It's like, oh my god.

738
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: So like let's talk about like Shamia and like and Parsia.

739
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: How she It's the way she addresses things on this

740
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: one is like sexiest fuck.

741
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 3: But I love Kelly and I love her. I love

742
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: her daughter, who's a real life Hillary Banks love. I

743
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 3: love the spoiled I want bags for my birthday. Let's

744
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 3: get it like I was here for it.

745
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: Knows love all things that works, it's all things that works.

746
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 2: But I love Kelly's my favorite. Do you have a favorite?

747
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: Charles Oakley? Charles Oakley mumbling in the background, throwing shade

748
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: left and right. I mean, he had some great one

749
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 3: liners in this episode. I like that. Angela said the

750
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 3: secret for loving a man like Charles is just letting

751
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 3: him be who he is, and I'm like, good, I

752
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: just want to see him. He seems like such a

753
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 3: fun character and reminds me of sort of the married

754
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: to medicine, men who are like involved in their women's lives,

755
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: but not like as interested in all the drama, just

756
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: sort of like there and having fun. He's we haven't

757
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: seen a guy like him in Atlanta history in a

758
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: long time, and I really like what I'm getting so far.

759
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 3: He just is a character. I'm so here for Charles

760
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: Oakly doing all that cooking too, shots cooking out.

761
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: Of the storm I was shot.

762
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: It was great to open up Angela's like solo scene

763
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: with not the woman in the kitchen but the man.

764
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: It was. I don't think people caught that light it was.

765
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: It was a row reversal in terms of like the

766
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: woman coming down the stairs answering the kitchen her husband's cooking,

767
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: because you kind of see it in the reverse on

768
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: these shows. But I love that our Uply definitely reminds

769
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 1: you rest in peace of like Greg League's Peter Thomas

770
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: up Like. I could see him with those like legendary

771
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: husbands on Alana. He definitely reminds me of, what you say,

772
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: like just a throwback house husband of Alana.

773
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 3: And again, what made me like him as well was

774
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: Angela talking in there in her confessional about like there

775
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: were sometimes like I was like, I can't hear him,

776
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: he can't hear me. And then I went to therapy

777
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, flaws too, and like it

778
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: was fascinating to see her at that point say like, listen,

779
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 3: we don't have a perfect marriage and I'm not a

780
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: perfect person, and that is so opposite. I think of

781
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 3: how a lot of housewives see themselves. It almost makes

782
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: me worry for her fate as a reality star, Like

783
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 3: I hopefully you don't take too much responsibility about things

784
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: you do, because we like our girls a little delusional. Yes,

785
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: but she seems she seems to be a lot of fun.

786
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: I'm very interested to see more from them and as

787
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 3: they explode. And again, I mean, Shamina is great. That's great.

788
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: And if I were Shamiya, I would be owning that too.

789
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: I would be like, sometimes I'm Shamina.

790
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: I agree with you, she needs to own way.

791
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, exactly. I like Shamina Soma.

792
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: If you're listening, Dave Quinn, and I believe you should

793
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: own Shamina.

794
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 2: Okay, Dave, we all agree, this is a great episode.

795
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: I want enough. You're brave enough to answer this question.

796
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it with you now. Okay, because

797
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: I know that.

798
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 3: Listen, look, I'm not on the socials anymore. They can't

799
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 3: find me.

800
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: I was just trying to say, I know you're on

801
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: social media, so.

802
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: I'm in. I'm a witness protection program.

803
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: All right, what do you.

804
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 3: Got from me? Feeling? Who you're gonna ask?

805
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: A full circle moment. It's a full circle moment based

806
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: on what we talked about the top. So you and

807
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: I both love Atlanta so far this season two episodes

808
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: in great soft reboot that it is, we love it.

809
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: Jersey is not filming.

810
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: Based on the success of these two episodes of Atlanta,

811
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 1: it starts to make me think about Jersey and who

812
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 1: I think should come back to Jersey as two housewives

813
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: or three that could leave the charge of a soft

814
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: reboot of Jersey.

815
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: So I'll go first if that makes it easier for you.

816
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Based on the success ray drops of Atlanta, I

817
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: Carlos King would like to pitch my idea a soft

818
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: Jersey reboot. We have Portia and Kenya come back, and

819
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: Cynthia Bailly's a friend of and jus So Dora was

820
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: there this or Fort Sea and I think so again,

821
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: not a full reboot, but a soft one. With that

822
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: being said, I want Teresa back, Delores Catanya, I want

823
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: Melissa Gorga back as a friend of and I would

824
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: like to see Margaret possibly return, but Margaret. If I

825
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: was the producer, I would tell Margaret, we're gonna start

826
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: you off as nothing a housewife or Fred.

827
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: Because we want you could be either or it's up

828
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: to you.

829
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: I would say Teresa and Delores you to our housewives.

830
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: I would say Melissa Gorga, you are friend Melissa wild

831
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: turn it now, but Joe Gorga would pick.

832
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: It up, okay.

833
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: And I would tell Margaret, look, based on how much

834
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: you give us with your personal story and your interactions,

835
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: which one will it be? And then I will have

836
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: three to four new women. So that's Carlos king pitch

837
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: of a soft three boot.

838
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: Uh Jersey, Oh, I mean that's good.

839
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 3: Listen, this is hot, right, And I don't think I

840
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 3: don't think Jersey has a Shamia like. As much as

841
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 3: I love Jen Fessler, I don't think you can bump

842
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 3: her up to a housewife to build the whole show around.

843
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: I don't think that there's that sort of grounding there.

844
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 3: But the show has always been Teresa and Melissa the

845
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: same way Potomac has always been Gazelle and Karen, and

846
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: the same way I think this season was set out

847
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 3: to be, which was really poor sha Kenya, so with

848
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 3: Shamiah and the Dolores role. So I love the idea

849
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: of the three of those. I would argue, Okay, all right,

850
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 3: First of all, I agree the Traders winner, Dolores Catana

851
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 3: returns no matter what. Okay, the first housewife to win

852
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 3: the Traders and played a flawless game. In my perspective, yes,

853
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: because the game is not all about the right people

854
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 3: you vote off. It's about making alliances and being trusted,

855
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: and she had that in the bag. I do not

856
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: think that I would bring Marcaret back. I love her dearly,

857
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 3: but I think some time away could be helpful for

858
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 3: the fans to appreciate her more, because fans seem to

859
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 3: be sort of against her for a while, and I

860
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: think you don't recognize how important she is until she's

861
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 3: not around. The same way that I would say it's

862
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 3: good to take a break from Tamera for audiences like

863
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: they need to appreciate what somebody brings to the table.

864
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 3: I would like to see Teresa and Melissa back as well.

865
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 3: It just I do not see any world in which

866
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: Teresa and Melissa are going to coexist. It just even

867
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: with this break, it doesn't seem to have softened the

868
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: tension between the two of them. So if that is

869
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: the choice that they both come back, I would I

870
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 3: understand what you mean about making one a friend. I

871
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 3: would be curious what Teresa would do with her friend

872
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: role because I would be curious whether that would motivate her,

873
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 3: who seems to be the one who's really building the

874
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: wall and saying I'm not letting this other girl back

875
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 3: into my life. Maybe in a friend role, Teresa would

876
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: feel more inclined to sort of, like I say, like

877
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 3: Portia and Giselle, they Teresa sort of dictates the tone.

878
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 3: If Teresa drops that wall down, I think we can

879
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 3: coexist in a lot more of a positive way. So

880
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 3: that's my argument there. I'm just gonna say I love Danielle.

881
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 3: I know she's crazy.

882
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 2: There's two which one.

883
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, sorry, Danielle Cabral. No disrespect to Danielle style,

884
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 3: but I love Danielle Cabral and I do think that

885
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: Danielle Cabral there's always more there that I'm interested in

886
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 3: sort of seeing I actually.

887
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: Agree with you with that. I love her.

888
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: I love her and listen unpopular opinion. Baby, I love

889
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: jen Aiden. However, I'm also not dumb. I know that's

890
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: that's never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever

891
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: ever happening. But I do agree with you in terms

892
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: of like, I appreciated Danielle's presence on the show. I

893
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: she brought a young presence to it that I thought

894
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: was like fascinating to watch. I'm very fascinated about her

895
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: her life, So I definitely would.

896
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 2: Throw daniel Labone if I have a brone to throw.

897
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: She definitely exkews younger and I think there's something there.

898
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: And I got a chance to meet her Dave a

899
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: month ago. She's a brunette.

900
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 3: I know that shocked me. I'm not into it.

901
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: I like her blond, like I want.

902
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 3: I can only remember you.

903
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: Girlfriend, give me cross throws Britney spears blonde.

904
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 3: It's just again, it's the accent that really cracks me up.

905
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: I like that she's a hot heead. I like that

906
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 3: she's a reactor. I feel like you need one of

907
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: those in the mix. I love Rachel Fuda. I really

908
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: enjoyed Jen Fessler, but again I think that there's room

909
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 3: for new voices, and I'd be interested to sort of

910
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 3: see Rachel has a new baby, just go be a

911
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 3: great mom, and like, I don't want her to have

912
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: to deal with this nonsense. And again, there's so much

913
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 3: anger there I think on all sides about like those

914
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: rumors and the things that were said, and sometimes it's

915
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 3: like I want to try and leave that in the

916
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 3: past now until then. I do hope that the casting

917
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 3: producers of The Traders other Traders now. I do hope

918
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 3: that the Trader casting director brings both Melissa and Joe

919
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 3: on next season. I think it would be fascinating to

920
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 3: see the two of them playing at the same time,

921
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 3: similar to how we saw Larsa and Marcus play together

922
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 3: in season two. So I'd love to see them have

923
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: a shot.

924
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: I mean here, but that actually, yeah, I missed them

925
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: all on my TV.

926
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 3: I got to see Teresa obviously in House of Villains,

927
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 3: so I just missed Melissa and Joe a little bit

928
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: and just they cracked me up.

929
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: That's actually okay, listen.

930
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 1: Carlos King is advocating, along with Dave Quinn, for Melissa

931
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: and Joe Orga to be on next season of The Traders.

932
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: I think it's a genie's idea.

933
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: I actually I would would definitely tune in for that.

934
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 3: I want the Trading casting producer to call me because

935
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 3: I got plenty of ideas of who else they should bring,

936
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 3: including Melissa back from the Real World New Orleans.

937
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: Do you remember her little shirt?

938
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: Melissa Beck is a star. She is the most hilarious

939
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: confessionals of in the history of the Real World and

940
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: even in the reboot reunion they did, She's incredible and

941
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: she needs to be on TV. She just needs to

942
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 3: be on TV. And The Traders is perfect for her.

943
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: She would light those folks up. You need another Phaedra

944
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 3: in that role, right like Feature was so good in

945
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 3: The Traders because her confessional is really sold it. Yeah,

946
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 3: I think Melissa would be a joy to watch. So

947
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm casting.

948
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: Well listen here, ladies, just to mcgay's and they if

949
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: you have heard it from day pont kind himself, please

950
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: cast everybody that he said, and he actually made me

951
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: rethink my decision of Jersey. So okay, I will end

952
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 1: my saying Teresa, Dolores Danielle, I'm actually.

953
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 3: I know, I'm right.

954
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: I changed my mind that ass you are really good

955
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: at this counselor.

956
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: No matter who they bring back, I'm gonna love it

957
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 3: and watch it. And I do not believe. I want

958
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 3: to make it clear that advocating for one is not

959
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 3: turning down or turning away others. I believe all of that.

960
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 3: That cast is all filled with stars, and I would

961
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 3: love to see them all back on my TV in

962
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 3: some capacity. So I think there's a bright future for Jersey.

963
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 3: I just want the fans to take a deep breath

964
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 3: and to just appreciate them right, just let him go

965
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 3: for a little bit. We got plenty of other things

966
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 3: to worry about. I don't know what's gonna happen with

967
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 3: Potomac without my queen Karen there, Like there's a lot

968
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 3: going on. We gotta.

969
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: Yeah your face.

970
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: Do Zel girl, you go girl doeszell girl, We work.

971
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 1: You gotta work girl. We gotta make sure she always

972
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: does she always does. No Gazelle, come on girl, No Karen,

973
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: get these girls to work, baby, get them to work.

974
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: Candace could come back, though.

975
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 3: I don't see it. I love Candace Dillard. I want

976
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 3: Candace give me another year away, like I need Candace

977
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 3: to to come back, hopefully with Karen, you know, uh,

978
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 3: and and be sort of. I don't know. I think

979
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 3: Candas is in such a different mental place now that

980
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 3: she's in the Hood of Mother as we call it.

981
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 3: She always says it's the hood, and I think that

982
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 3: I think the audience needs to appreciate her a little

983
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 3: bit more. A year away is not enough.

984
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 2: The Mother is a fucking amazing episode title. I gotta come.

985
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 2: I gotta like figure out.

986
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: Which one am I show you you can take that

987
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: The Hood of the Mother is actually genius.

988
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: Dave, I love you so much. I can talk to you,

989
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: Aredie long.

990
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: Let the audience know day what you got going on

991
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: is anything you need to pub my baby, But it's

992
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: always a pleasure when you're on nothing.

993
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm out here in these streets, Uh, come

994
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: on out working all right while you all are gossiping online.

995
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 3: I am in the streets of Brooklyn, trying to survive

996
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 3: in this economy.

997
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 2: That's all.

998
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 3: That's it, Just living my life here in Brooklyn.

999
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: Oh, my friend, I love you so much and I

1000
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: will see you so Ladies and gentlemen, gays and bays,

1001
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: give it up her Dave crown Kite, Yes, yes, yes,

1002
00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: and I'll see you guys on Thursday.

1003
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