1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Colin Moore Kawa wins the Open Championship, his 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: second major, and he's not even twenty five, the last 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: player to do that. Tiger Bucks beat the Suns up 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: three games to two. Game six will be on Tuesday night. 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: The US Men beat Spain and basketball last night, and 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: everybody ready to go to Tokyo. There's a good chance 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: that earlier in the playoffs the Bucks wouldn't have won 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Game five of the NBA Finals. They weren't playing well 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: in close games, and you got the feeling they needed 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: to be up by double digits because if the game 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: was closed, they would lose. And in large part that 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 1: was because the Greek freak can't shoot free throws. Now 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: he's gotten better, it's still a problem. But in Game five, 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: Drew Holliday saved the day and now Milwaukee leads three 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: games to two. We've seen it before. You get teams 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: that get more confident the longer at series goes on, 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: the deeper you get into the postseason, and Milwaukee there 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: use the a team that was not going to get 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: this far, never got this far before. But those mistakes 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: that plagued them in postseason, passed, seemed to disappear. That's 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: a big win they had in Phoenix. And now you 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: come home. You haven't lost it home. It's been a 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: couple of months since you last lost there. You can 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: close it out. You're one game away from winning an 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: NBA championship. There are a lot of things that surround 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: a championship run, and you have to have contributions. It 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: can't be just one guy because I go back Jerry 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: West when he was named the most valuable player when 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: the Lakers lost to the Celtics. Jerry was unbelievable. He 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: was averaging forty points a game. He did everything he 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: could possibly do, but it wasn't enough because you're facing 33 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: a Celtic team that had contributions, had a good bench, 34 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: Yes they did have Hall of famers. Milwaukee having a 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: bench that will contribute will be a large reason why 36 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: if they do win this, because Phoenix hasn't been able 37 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: to rely on its bench that much. And if you 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: say Devin Booker is going to give you back to 39 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: back forty point games and you lose, then you have 40 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: to start looking at everybody else. I mean, Chris Paul 41 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: had a nice game, bad foul at the end on 42 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 1: the Greek Freak, but he had to. If you said 43 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: he's going to have that game in game six, you'd 44 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: probably sign up for. Only had one turnover. Can you 45 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: get forty out of Booker? Again? Where's eight and where's 46 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: the rest of the bench? Jay Crowder always starts out 47 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: really strong and then disappears. Bridges who's coming off the 48 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: bench to help you. That's really really important. You got 49 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: Drew Holliday who played a great game. You go twenty 50 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: seven and thirteen, had the big defensive steal against Devin 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: Booker at the end. Chris Middleton has been wonderful. But 52 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: you've also got contributions from role players there, and that's 53 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: so important. If you go down through history and watch 54 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: some of these performances with great teams, they always had 55 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: somebody who came in and like Gerald Henderson with the Celtics, 56 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: not a name, but he had he would contribute. Mario Eli, 57 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: remember him, sharpshooter. You just have guys who in that moment. 58 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: You know, andre Ugudala wasn't anywhere near one of the 59 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: great players on Golden State, but he was so good 60 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: at what he was asked to do, and he won 61 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: the MVP. You need to have contributions. I don't care 62 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: what sport it is, team sport, there's always somebody doing something. 63 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: We talked about Malcolm Butler last week on maybe the 64 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: greatest defensive play in sports history. Nobody knew Malcolm Butler, 65 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: but you won't forget Malcolm Butler because of the play 66 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: against Seattle. If you would have said, hey, you know, 67 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: the game is going to come down to a play 68 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: made by Malcolm Butler, you might go who's he play for? 69 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: He plays for? The Patriots have to have those moments. 70 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: You have to have those players. Uh, you know David Tyree. 71 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: Nobody knew David Tyree. That's his that's the last catch 72 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: he ever had in the NFL. And then you have 73 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: Plexico Burris scoring the touchdown. I would have said, Hey, 74 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: Plexico Burrus gonna score the game winning touchdown. You're gonna 75 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: go Okay, so the Giants are gonna upset the Patriots. Yeah, 76 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 1: but the biggest play will be turned in by David Tyree. 77 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: You need these individuals who have that moment. Mark Lemki 78 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: was his second baseman for the Braves and I think 79 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: he batted four fifty four in the world series. You're 80 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: just going late. Who is this? But that's what you had. 81 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: You had these moments where somebody goes, hey, nobody's expecting 82 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: me to do anything. I can step up. You know, 83 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: Pat Connaughton with Milwaukee, just you give him, give us 84 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: ten or fourteen points now that that's what you need. 85 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: And it'll come down to that coming up on Tuesday 86 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: night in game six. You know, can Milwaukee do the same? 87 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: What does Phoenix do differently? And can somebody you know, 88 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: contribute the game of their life And that's probably what 89 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: it's going to take. Yeah, Pony, And it kind of 90 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: feels like Drew Holidays in that Hall of Good. Remember 91 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: we always talked about the Hall of Good. He's been 92 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: a very good player for a long time. He's a 93 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: Philly in New Orleans Milwaukee. He's made one All Star team. 94 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: He had a couple of twenty point seasons, you know, 95 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: average twenty points. But he's never been a household name. 96 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: Even his name, how do you spell it? How do 97 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: you say it? His nickname, by the way, is the Druth. 98 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: I never knew that it's a great nickname. I had 99 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: no idea great nickname Ruth. But he has twenty seven 100 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: thirteen and a steel that will if they win it. 101 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: If they win it, as you said those if they 102 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: win it, that still remember it forever in Milwaukee. You 103 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: can't handle the druth can't handle the dr You can't 104 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: know you can't. All right, who's handling the poll question? Dude? 105 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: He since mclevin's not here. Yeah, I think we're all 106 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: chipping in. Oh, because it takes three of us to 107 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: do the poor job at MC village usually does a village? Okay, 108 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: who wants to lead off? All right, this is a 109 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: weird one. Who are you rooting for? If you were 110 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: rooting for one of these two teams at this point, 111 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: Bucks or sons Um, Well, I'm rooting for the Bucks 112 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: because I said the Bucks would play the Lakers for you. Yes, yes, 113 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: that's I'm always rooting for me. It's like Colin Morecala 114 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: at the Open Championships, a wonderful story. I thought he 115 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: was a great guest and far more mature than his age, 116 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: But I had picked Jordan's Spieth to win the Open 117 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: Championship and I didn't want to root against Colin more Kala. 118 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: So you know, it's one of those where you make 119 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: a prediction and uh, you know, I was open Jordan 120 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: Spieth would be able to win, but Colin moorecal was 121 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: a wonderful story. So I am rooting for the bucks 122 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: just from my own self interest. What else do you have? 123 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: All right, here's one um, all right, a future stock 124 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: if you could buy stock and one of these athletes. 125 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: No one's ever done this on radio before. By the way, 126 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: I like it, just invented it. Enjoy okay, future stock. 127 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: Colin Morikawa twenty four years old, Trevor Lawrence, who I 128 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: think is twenty two or twenty three, Showhyotani and showhy 129 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: you may be buying, you know not it's not low anymore. 130 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: It's not a low stock. That's a high stock. Is 131 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: that apple? It's still going way up? I would say, 132 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: show Heyotani because there's nothing like him. Colin Morikawa is 133 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: a really good player. He's got two majors, he's young, 134 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: he looks good, he sounds good. But you can kind 135 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: of disappear in the in the golf world if you 136 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: don't do anything spectacular. That's why, you know, we get 137 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: caught up in you know, hey, look at Brooks, Keepkin, Bryson, 138 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: de Shambo. These guys, they can play football. Meanwhile, you 139 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: got Colin Morikawa five nine one sixty five nine one 140 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: sixty thank you, thank you. Yes Seedon if if Showhyotani 141 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: is like the apple stock, yeah, then com Marakawa is 142 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: more like ge or something like. You buy it and 143 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: then hold on to it for the next forty years 144 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: and it's going to be worth a lot. Oh Okay, yeah, yes, Ton, 145 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: you're spending a lot on Otani stock. And if he 146 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: continues to be on both sides of the ball, you 147 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: are risking a serious injury. I know you can get 148 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: hurting football and golf, you can throw your back or whatever, 149 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: but that's a big risk if they expect them to 150 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: continue for the years to come pitch and hit. Yeah, 151 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: but I still get he homered by the way yesterday. 152 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: It's just the upside is huge. There's nothing like him. 153 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence can be a good quarterback. Is he going 154 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: to be Mahomes? Is he going to be like one 155 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: of the elites? I don't know, but I know Otani 156 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: is doing something at a level that we've never seen before. 157 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: And we want to compare him to Babe Ruth, and 158 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: he's different than Babe Ruth in fact, in a lot 159 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: of ways. He's better than Babe Ruth because he's doing 160 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: both at the same time. And Babe was a wonderful pitcher, 161 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: then stopped pitching and then became the best hitter the 162 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: game has ever seen. Otani is one of the best 163 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: hitters and he's also one of the best pitchers. And 164 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: that's he's the unicorn. Yeah pole And the other thing 165 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: that I think if you're not a big, huge baseball fan, 166 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: you don't know he's also got speed because he looks 167 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: like a big dude, you know, like not as big 168 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: as Cal Ripkin. But in that ilk, he had a 169 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: ground at a first where it kind of jumped up 170 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: on the first baseman. The first baseman's back. First baseman 171 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: is just gonna run and planets foot ran him to 172 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: the first base and the first baseman was absolutely shocked. 173 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: Is great. He has twelve stolen bases, which may not 174 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: seem like a lot, but he's a power hitter, although 175 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: he does lead off, but you know, twelve stolen bases. 176 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that they let him run as much as 177 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: they do. But as Joe Madden's manager said last week, look, 178 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: you know I'm not out there to protect him. Like 179 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: you go. I want him to play. He's young, Let 180 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: him play, and that's what they're letting him do. Be 181 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: sure to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick 182 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: Show week days at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 183 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: on Flock Sports Radio in the iHeart Radio app. Let's 184 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: bring in Mike Florial, Pro Football Talk Live co host, 185 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: so you don't have to deal with any of this stuff, Mike, 186 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: do you I like it though, I like listening to it. 187 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: I like it. I like green Day. I can only 188 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: imagine the things that are available to maybe sample at 189 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: the Green Day exhibit at the Rock and Roll Hall 190 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: of Fame. Well it legal in Ohio, I don't know. 191 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: It was a nice exhibit. I took pictures just to 192 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: let people know that I did go to try to 193 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: learn a little bit more about green Day. That's all. 194 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: That's what we do in this business, Mike, like, you 195 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: got to get out, You got to go meet people, 196 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: go to camp, talk to coaches, gms. I mean, this 197 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: is what we have to do. Is I'm just getting 198 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: that memo twenty years later. I stay in my cave 199 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: as much as I can. I think people prefer it 200 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: that way. All right, you got the Cowboys and the Steelers. 201 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: They get to start practice on Wednesday. More interesting team 202 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: to you between those two, Well, I'd say the Cowboys 203 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: because they always are. It's close though this year with 204 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: the Steelers, I don't know what their mindset is. I 205 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: don't know why they brought Ben Roethlisberger back. I don't 206 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: know why he came back. It doesn't feel like they're 207 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: going to be as successful as last year. That AFC 208 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: is so top heavy with Super Bowl contenders, It's going 209 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: to be a tough year for the best teams in 210 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: the AFC. For the Cowboys, their path through the division 211 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: championship is wide open. They could win it easily. They're 212 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: favored to win it, although I don't think they should be. 213 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: I think it should be Washington. But with the Dak 214 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: Prescott injury, which by all appearances is healed, Ezekiel Elliott, 215 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: can he get back to being the guy he was 216 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Can they do anything defensively? 217 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: And it's the Cowboys and they're on hard knocks. I mean, 218 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: so the Cowboys are always going to be a team. 219 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: Even when it feels like that that star is a 220 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: little tarnished, they still are a team. That everyone wants 221 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: to pay attention to. Why did the Steelers bring Ben back? 222 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: I think what happened and Simpson I talked about this 223 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: on PFT Live. I think they had enough time after 224 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: their loss to the Browns in the playoffs and to 225 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: process the way things fell apart after the Steelers started 226 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: eleven and oh to convince themselves that we don't have 227 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: to rebuild, we just have to reload. If we fix 228 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: this and this and this and this, you get into 229 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: kind of an echo chamber with your front office and 230 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: your coaching staff. And they convinced themselves they can make 231 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: a run of the Super Bowl and win it, and 232 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. We're gonna bring him back, and 233 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna have that one more year. And I think 234 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: part of it, too, was they didn't know what else 235 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: they were going to do if they didn't bring back 236 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. They didn't draft high enough to get a 237 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: first round talent that could be the next franchise quarterback 238 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: like they did in two thousand and four when they 239 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: had the eleventh pick. So I think that part of 240 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: it was hubris, and part of it is we don't 241 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: know what Plan B would be, so let's stick with 242 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberg. Yeah, and I know they brought in Haskins, 243 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: I guess just to see if there is potential there. 244 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: But Mason Rudolph is not threatening anybody. I don't know 245 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: if they didn't see a quarterback in the draft that 246 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: they could get or was worth going to get. I 247 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: don't know if it was something as simplistic as that, 248 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: and then you just thought, all right, well, we can 249 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: fall back on Ben. And Ben did a pretty good 250 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: numbers those first what eleven games or so, but um 251 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: and their receivers were I think they had they dropped 252 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: more balls than any other receivers. So now you've added 253 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: a running back. I don't know what their style is 254 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: going to be, but it'll be tough sledding in that division. 255 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: One thing Jerome Bettis told Ed Buchett of The Athletic 256 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: last year was the running game is something that begins 257 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: in training camp. You have to have a commitment up front. 258 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: It's a different style of blocking, and you have to 259 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: have a mindset that you were gonna you were gonna 260 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: mash people who are across from you and open up 261 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: those holes. And they have huge turnover on the offensive line. 262 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: That's the big unknown with the Steelers this year, all 263 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: the turnover on the offensive line, Will the new players 264 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: be as good, are better than the guys they're replacing 265 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: And and we'll see. And Dan, I don't know if 266 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: you saw this or talk about it, but there was 267 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: an item recently on a tell that Ben Roethlisberger has 268 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: when he's in shotgun formation and where when it's a 269 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: pass he's got his left heel off the ground. When 270 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: it's a run, he's flat footed. Defenses see that. They 271 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: know about that. And if you know before the snap 272 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: whether it's a run or a pass, that's eighty five 273 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: percent of the battle. If they can iron that out. 274 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: When you consider how good their offense was even with 275 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: that tell, if they can get rid of that, they 276 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: could be a lot better potentially on offense. If you 277 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: just take off the table, Hey, defense, we're running or 278 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: we're passing. That could make a huge difference. Wait, how 279 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: does the tell get told? Somebody studied the film and 280 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: and noticed it. Somebody in the studied the film and 281 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: saw that the heels off the ground when he passes 282 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: and he's flat footed when he runs. And I don't 283 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: know how long that's been the case. But it's a 284 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: pretty basic yes, no pass run thing, and if defensive 285 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: players are seeing it before the snap, that that that 286 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: would explain why they ran the ball so poorly last 287 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: year if every time they ran the ball, somebody upfront 288 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: could see that Ben was standing flatfoot and that man 289 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: he was going to hand it off out of shotgun. 290 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: I remember Rodney Harrison telling me that he would watch 291 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: Tony Gonzalez lineup and he said, if he lined up 292 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: and it maybe it was a foot a foot out, 293 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: he knew it was a pass play and if he 294 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: lined up a little closer to the tackle, it was 295 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: going to be a run. Like just something so small, 296 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: but that's all you're looking for, Like, what is your tell? 297 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: We're talking to Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live co 298 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: host with Chris Simms, Monday through Friday. You can watch 299 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: that on Peacock. I'm fascinated with the Rams and Chargers 300 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: because I don't want to set my expectations up too 301 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: high for the Chargers as I always do, and the 302 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: Rams I find really fascinating here. Which one are you 303 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: more interested in seeing this season? Well, I'm watched in 304 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: the Chargers. I think the Chargers have a great deal 305 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: of talent. They hit a home run and hiring Brandon 306 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: Staley to be the head coach. I think he's going 307 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: to be a great coach for the Charters is to 308 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: avoid injuries. And you mentioned Rodney Harrison. I've been sitting 309 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: next to him for the last decade and he's got 310 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: this uncanny ability watching nine games at once to spot 311 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: the potentially serious knee injury. And he'll slap me and 312 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: he'll say, watch this replay, and you know, ninety five 313 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: out of one hundred times, the guy just jumps up 314 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: and he's good to go. Teams out there know how 315 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: to properly get their guys flexible and everything about the 316 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: training side of it to get guys to a point 317 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: where they can go out and play and not suffer 318 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: serious injury. I think some teams are better than others. 319 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: And one of the problems with the Charters when you 320 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: just look at the recent history of injury injury, injury injury. 321 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: I hope they've taken a broader look at their processes 322 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: and try to figure out what they can do to 323 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: limit the injuries, because that's what knocks them off. Every 324 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: single year they get key guys injured and it falls 325 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: apart for the Rams. Hey, they got to the final 326 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: eight with Jared Goff at quarterback and now they have 327 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford and whether they can get back there. I mean, 328 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: this is gonna be the great litmus test for the 329 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: struggles of Matthew Stafford's career. Was him was it the Lions? 330 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna find out this year the obligatory Aaron Rodgers update. Mike, Well, look, 331 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be there, and I think 332 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: he's not going to say anything because next Monday, Mark Murphy, 333 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: the CEO of the Packers, gets to meet with fans 334 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: slash shareholders at the annual meeting, and they haven't had 335 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: a chance to voice their displeasure with the past several months, 336 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: and they're gonna do it, and Murphy's gonna bear the 337 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: brunt of it. And I think Rogers is keeping his 338 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: mouth shut right now in part because he doesn't want 339 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: to make it any easier next Monday, when Mark Murphy 340 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: has to address the shareholders, who understandably are upset because 341 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: they're caught in the middle of this. That's the one 342 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: thing I don't like about it. The players are caught 343 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: in the middle of it. The fans are caught in 344 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: the middle of it. I think Aaron Rodgers is going 345 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: to show up, and frankly, I think when he does 346 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: show up, that could be when the Packers, starting with Murphy, 347 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: begin to soften on this idea potentially trading him, because 348 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: I think if we injected sodium pentethal into the veins 349 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: of Mark Murphy, he would admit that he rather Aaron 350 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: Rodgers not show up. But what is the goal here 351 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers. He wants to play somewhere else. I mean, 352 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: he wants to stick it to the Packers. He's upset 353 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: with the fact that he spent years believing he was untouchable, 354 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: and in one moment, without a heads up, without the 355 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: courtesy of a phone call or a text message or anything, 356 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: he found out he's not untouchable because they traded up 357 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: to draft a quarterback who ostensibly will replace him. And 358 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: at one point, I think it was when he was 359 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: talking to Kenny Maine, he made the comment that his 360 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: season last year threw a wrench into the plan. He 361 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: believes that they wanted to go from Jordan Love to 362 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers after one season of Jordan's Love on the 363 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: bench and I think he's he's trying to force that now, 364 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: and I really do think his best chance of getting 365 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: traded this year is to show up and hope that 366 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: the people at the top of the organization say let's 367 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: just get rid of this traction because it's going to 368 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: be a mess of a season. A NonStop question, is 369 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: it his last year? Let's just be done with it 370 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: now and move forward. Wait, so before this season you 371 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: think he'll be traded as opposed to after the season. Well, 372 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: I know. I think his best chance of getting traded 373 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: before the season is to show up. I think holding 374 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: out is not the way to get traded. I think 375 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: he's got a better chance of getting traded if he 376 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: shows up. And it's this constant circus of is this 377 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: his last year? Have they promised to trade him? He's 378 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: asked about it all the time. He makes his little snide, 379 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: pass aggressive comments, so they have to scour everything he 380 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: says to see who he's taken a shot at. I 381 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: have a feeling they've gotten to the point where they've 382 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: had enough of that and they're just ready to move forward, 383 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: and showing up I think is the ticket to them 384 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: deciding to move on. But Mike If the Packers knew this, 385 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: then why not do it at draft. At the draft, 386 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: you have a lot of teams that come in to 387 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: play more options here. I don't understand you're gonna live 388 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: at the market for Aaron Rodgers. Well, look, I agree 389 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: with you completely, and I think they do get more 390 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: for him. If they wait until after the season, you're 391 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: gonna have eight, nine, ten teams that are deciding to 392 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: move on from their current quarterbacks. And that makes sense. 393 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: But I'm just talking about the day in and day 394 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: out reality of Aaron Rodgers back and Aaron Rodgers in 395 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: Green Bay, and Aaron Rodgers taking verbal shots at Brian Goodacous, 396 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: Mark Murphy, whoever, he can't help himself. At some point 397 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna break. You can see it. The wheels spin 398 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: in his head. He tries to resist. At some point 399 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna say something. And as Sims and I have 400 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: said on PFT Live, if you're Mark Murphy or Brian Goodacous, 401 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: don't go anywhere near the practice field without a helmet 402 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: on and two cups because you're gonna get the walking 403 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: Boss treatment. Was the walking Boss the one that that 404 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: Burt Reynolds threw the football and Adam Sandler did the 405 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: same thing, right into the you know, right into the 406 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: sensitive area. If you're Goodacouster Murphy steer clear of Aaron 407 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: Rodgers with a foot all this year, Why doesn't Rogers 408 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: just say trade me? I think he enjoys whether it's yeah, 409 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: but if he doesn't get cracked though, Mike, I mean, like, 410 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: if his end game is to get traded, then why 411 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: didn't you jump on this two months ago? Dan, I've 412 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: been saying that since the moment he activated this story 413 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: the first day of the draft, and he got to 414 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: be looking at the Rams and going I should be 415 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback for the Rams, yes, right? And or 416 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, yeah. Or the forty nine is 417 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: the team that he wanted to go to as the 418 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: first pick in the two thousand and five draft. He 419 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: wanted to go to the forty nine. And that's really 420 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: what started this. It was my friend Paul Allen of 421 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: kfa N reporting that the forty nine Ers made a 422 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: run at Aaron Rodgers that all hit the day of 423 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: the draft, and Dan, look, I think that it was 424 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: all calculated and strategic, and this was his payback because 425 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: the Packers turned his life upside down Draft Day twenty twenty, 426 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: Draft Day twenty twee he's going to turn their life 427 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: upside down. I think it was all planned and it 428 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: worked to a perfection because it look at what we've 429 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: been talking about for the last three and a half months. 430 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: Deshaun wants in any chance he shows up next week. 431 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: Can he show up next week? Oh? He can, because 432 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: no one has said from the league whether or not 433 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: he's going to be on paid leave. And I've been 434 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: saying for weeks now that the league has had a 435 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: chance to conduct its preliminary investigation into these twenty two 436 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: civil lawsuits and decide yes or no, up or down. 437 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson gets put on the Commissioner examp list in 438 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and I think the right thing to do, 439 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: in the fair thing to do, is for the league 440 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: to tell the Texans, Watson and anyone else out there 441 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: who may want to trade for him, what his status 442 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: is and not play this guessing game. And you'll find 443 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: out when we put him on the Commissioner examp list. 444 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: That's what the league typically does. They won't tell you 445 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 1: in advance because if he's not going to be put 446 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: on the Commissioner example list, I think the chances of 447 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: him traded, even with the pending lawsuits, increases dramatically. Whether 448 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: it's the Eagles, the Dolphins of the Broncos, I think 449 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: one of those three teams make a run at him 450 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: if the league says we're not putting him on the 451 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: commissioner example list is the NFL investigating the Buccaneers for 452 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: the Tom Brady injury or hiding the injury never putting 453 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: him on the injured list. A guy played the full 454 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: season with a torn MCL that required surgery promptly after 455 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and he never showed up on the 456 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: injury report once with a knee problem. And about asked 457 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: the league, as evidence has come out after the fact 458 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 1: about the severity of the knee injury, do you have 459 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: a comment on this? Did they violate the injury report? 460 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: And the league has consistently said no comment, and Dan, 461 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: I think, based on dealing with the league for the 462 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: last twenty years, if there was no violation, they would 463 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: say so no comment to me implies that the Buccaneers 464 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: did something here they shouldn't have done. They knew about 465 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: the knee even if Tom Brady had his own separate 466 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: setup where he got all of his treatment from Alex 467 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: Guerrero and company, and the trainers for the Buccaneers never 468 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: knew about the knee. There's no way the coaching staff 469 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: didn't know that. You know, he's trying to protect his 470 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: left knee. Don't expect me to roll out. Don't expect 471 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: me to do this. I'm doing three step, five step drop, 472 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: and I'm getting rid of the football as quickly as 473 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: possible because my knees got one hit and I take 474 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: that one hit and there goes the ACL again and 475 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: we're done. And that's why they hit it. That's the 476 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: problem with transparency for gambling purposes and the strategy of 477 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: keeping your your injured guys healthy. You don't want to 478 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: paint a target on the injured body part. That's why 479 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers never disclosed it. Okay, but what information the gamblers? 480 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: You know, with total transparency, they want to know this stuff? Now, 481 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: are they? Is the league obligated to give gamblers this 482 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: much information? Here's the problem, Dan, As I try to 483 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: do some my microphone has a torn MCLA. If there 484 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: is not full transparency, then that means there is inside 485 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: information to be had, which creates an incentive for the 486 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: gamblers to try to find it, which means certain people 487 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: who have the inside information are going to be worked 488 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: on to share the inside information. And this is the 489 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: kind of thing that can spiral out of control for 490 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. I've had it compared to inside information with 491 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: publicly traded companies, non material or non material, private information 492 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: that becomes known to certain people who go buy and 493 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: sell stocks with that information. You don't want there to 494 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: be inside information that creates a potential for corruption, that 495 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: creates a potential for all sorts of infiltration by gambling interests. 496 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: And the league needs to be concerned about it because 497 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: the wrong scandal at the wrong time means Congress gets involved, 498 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: maybe creates an agency to oversee all professional sports because 499 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: gambling is legalized sea to shining sea, and at some 500 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: point there's going to be an ambitious prosecutor that has 501 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: jurisdiction over one of these teams, that maybe has people 502 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: there who have some things they shouldn't have done. Next thing, 503 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, a grand jury is convened. Next thing you know, 504 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: people get indicted. I think the league needs to work 505 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: hard to avoid that kind of outcome. That's why this 506 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: Brady thing is important. Whoever knows the truth about injuries 507 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: has the power to misuse that information and create problems 508 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: for the league. Thank you, Mike Wus. Always have a 509 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: great week, all right, Danne. Fox Sports Radio has the 510 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. 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Listen 519 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: to All Ball with Doug Gotlieb on the iHeartRadio app, 520 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: Apple Podcast, or ever you get your podcast. Good morning, Reds. 521 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: How are you now? Whorton? We just a week ago, 522 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: seven days ago, when it was too nothing Phoenix Suns. 523 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: Everyone in Milwaukee thought it was over. Everyone was about 524 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: ray to get rid of coach Bootenholzer. Jannest was going 525 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: to be a forever choke artist, and now now they 526 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: are on the verge of winning. In India Championship, their 527 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: first in what fifty plus years? What a week? Make right? 528 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: And didn't you and I talked about, Well, Phoenix did 529 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: what they had to do. They secured their home court advantage, 530 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: went back to Milwaukee. That's what Milwaukee did. But Milwaukee 531 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: went on the road, got Game five and is in 532 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: total control of this series. You expect Milwaukee to win 533 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: Tuesday night. I do, unless and there's one caveat because 534 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: we have not really seen that this series. Chris Paul 535 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: hasn't had a signature game yet, and I think we're 536 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: all waiting on that. Booker has been great, but the 537 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: other half of that equation is Chris Paul. He had 538 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: signature moments versus the Lakers, versus Denver games I'm talking about, 539 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: and versus the Clippers. There was always one game he 540 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: had where he was phenomenal. Game six. It has to 541 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: be that for him. If not, then this series is over. 542 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: I mentioned last week that by Thursday, we're either going 543 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: to be talking about Janis and getting two MVPs in 544 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: a title at this age, which is really really rare 545 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: in the history of the sport, or will probably be 546 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: talking about Chris Paul. Finally, elevating himself into a different 547 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: category as a point guard. I know Devin Booker will 548 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: be the MVP of Phoenix wins and Yannis will be 549 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: the MVP if the Milwaukee Bucks win, But do you 550 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: think those are still are we going to be Is 551 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: that fair to Chris Paul? If let's say the Phoenix 552 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: Suns lose this, are we going to look at Chris 553 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: Paul as opposed to the rest of the team. Montie Williams, 554 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: Should it all be on Chris Paul that Hey, didn't 555 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: get it done again? You led two games to none 556 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: with home court advantage at thirty six No. I think 557 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: Chris Paul will probably get a pass because of his 558 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: age and because of the hard knocks. It has taken 559 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: Chris Paul to even get to the NBA Finals, and 560 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this will be his last look at it, 561 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: but he will get a long pass because of the 562 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: signature games along the way. I think people will remember 563 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: those more as opposed to he just has a grade 564 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: here in the finals and there's still time for him again. 565 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: I think he needs to put a stamp and have 566 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: a signature thirty plus twelve assists, but in pactful points 567 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: like he had versus the Clippers in that close out game, 568 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: like he had against Denver in that close out game. 569 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: Those close out games, he was phenomenal and we just 570 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: haven't seen that. And I give all the credit to 571 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: Drew Holliday, PJ. Tucker, Pat Connington. Those three guys have 572 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: been the principal defenders on CP three and they've done 573 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: a great job of really just locking him down. Yeah. 574 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: My point that I've been making is that I know 575 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: we want to focus on the stars, but it's the 576 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: role players. You can go down through history. You can 577 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: have great players. There's a role player who does something, 578 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: whether it's baseball football, like Malcolm Butler with the Patriots. 579 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: Nobody had heard of him. You know, you get a 580 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: role player like John Paxon or Steve Kerr who hits 581 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: a big shot. You can have star power. It's what 582 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: kind of contributions am I getting. It feels like Milwaukee 583 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: has depth that they can rely on, and Monty Williams 584 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: isn't sure what he has with Phoenix. And I mentioned 585 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: Pat Connington, but people are not talking of Bobby Portis Junior. 586 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: He has been fantastic throughout these playoffs. Barely sniffed the 587 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: floor in that Brooklyn series at all and then comes 588 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: back in Atlanta and has a huge, huge impact because 589 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: of the injury to Honest and has been fantastic in 590 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: the finals here. And you're right, I think coach Budd 591 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: in the books they have more luxury because of their bench, 592 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: and I think the injury to Sharich has hurt Phoenix. 593 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: Tory Craig has not been the same since he went 594 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: down with the leg injury. I know he's played since then, 595 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: but he hasn't been the same. But look, I'm not 596 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: going to count Phoenix out because they've been fantastic on 597 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: the road all postseason and then coming into the NBA 598 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: Finals they were six and two on the road, so 599 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: they're certainly capable of winning on the road, but everything 600 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: has to fall into place. They got up to a 601 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: great start in Game five, I mean they shot the 602 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: lights out. Can they do that for forty eight minutes 603 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: on the road. Danielle vent Lebron was at the game 604 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: and he brought in his own tequila. I didn't know 605 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: you're allowed to do that. He had a bottle tequila 606 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: underneath his seat. If you're the King, don't you normally 607 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: travel with your own tequila. I don't know. I would 608 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: have others who traveled with my tequila for me. But well, 609 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure they were sitting in the cheap seats. They 610 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: brought the tequila to the key. Yeah, store this under 611 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: your chair, your highness. But he was there with his 612 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: leisure and his agent is reportedly dating Adele. Rich Paul 613 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: is reportedly dating Adele, and my comment on that would 614 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: be good for you, Rich Paul, no story here, no 615 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: story here, no confirmation on that story. Dude, I have 616 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: no idea who Rich Faul is dating. Okay, all right, 617 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: just these are things that are important, and you're a 618 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: will No, these things are not important. Are you kidding? 619 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: Lebron bringing his own tequila and Adele sitting next to 620 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: Lebron and Rich Paul. No, Lebron bringing his own tequila, 621 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: that's a cute story. Rich Paul potentially dating Adele, that's 622 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: a non story. Who care? I do? I love Adele? 623 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: I want her to be happy. Well, I'm sure Rich 624 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: Paul is making her very happy. What what is Damian 625 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: Lillard saying without saying it? Yeah, Portland Trailblazers, you're on 626 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: dame time. You're on the clock. I want to see 627 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: some movement and some changing changes. You brought in a 628 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: new coach, You've got an injury plagued roster here. I 629 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: love Chauncey Billows. I had a lot of headbutting with 630 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: him and his Detroit Pistons. I think he's going to 631 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: be a fabulous coach, but he's also unproven. So I 632 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: think that's probably the question that Dame and his camp 633 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 1: are having right now. What could be on a level 634 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: of success with Chauncey coming in, and what kind of 635 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: moves can we potentially make to make us a championship team. 636 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: So I don't think all these trade rumors, I really 637 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 1: believe they're not coming from Dame, but obviously his agent, 638 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: his boys, they're they're being feel traded out. They're not 639 00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: necessarily coming from him himself. But he's having these conversations 640 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: with these people. Okay, what could Portland possibly do to 641 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: make him happy? Get Kui? Maybe? I mean I was 642 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: talking to play there. I mean, what top free agent 643 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 1: is out there that would make him happy? I don't know. Look, 644 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: Dame is a loyal guy. He's always talked about not 645 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: wanting to team up and make super teams and fight 646 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: the good fight. But I also heard Katie say that too, 647 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't think they can get 648 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 1: much better that. I just don't. And if you're Lillard 649 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: and you seek him forcing his way out or them 650 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: respecting his body of work and saying, you know what, 651 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: you've done so much for us, we'll probably get less 652 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: for you. But it's the right thing to do. I 653 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 1: just can't see them given up on a potential top 654 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: ten player and saying, Okay, you've done right by us 655 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: for eight years. Time for you to go. Well, it's 656 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 1: one thing to have him, but then are you using 657 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: him correctly? Hey? I got I got Dame, what else 658 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: you got? Not too much? You know, we're not threatening, 659 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,720 Speaker 1: And then what are you building around? Or the Theodore 660 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: In his defense, and he had no control of this 661 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: a lot. There's a lot of injuries that surrounded the 662 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: Trail Blazers that he had zero control of. K Colin Oh, 663 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: I don't blame him for any of it. I love 664 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: watching him play. I'm just saying, if I'm Damian Lillard, 665 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: I look around and I realize we're not We're not 666 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: an elite team, and we're not going to be an 667 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: elite team. I think what would be if I'm Damian Lillard. 668 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: I look around and I look at the Phoenix Suns 669 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: and saying they got to the NBA Finals. No knock 670 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: on Chris Paul, Devin Booker, Mommy Williams. Great, But look 671 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 1: at you're talking about the role players. I mean Cameron 672 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: Paynes or Craig Shot they DeAndre Ayden, they got to 673 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. You tell him we couldn't have done that. 674 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: That probably would be more frustrating than if on Lillard. 675 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: But if you could, let's say you could get let's 676 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: say Ben Simmons is available and you have to you 677 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: could get somebody who's Ben Simmons doesn't tip the scale 678 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: for me to get me over the edge to beat 679 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:22,919 Speaker 1: the Lakers, Utah, Phoenix, Denver. Yeah, I don't think Ben 680 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: Simmons is that kind of guy that's gonna make Lillards say, Okay, 681 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. I mean, unless you get to 682 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: jump st between now and October fifteenth, I don't know. 683 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: But but what if Dame is traded and you get 684 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons and something else, like you have to at 685 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: some point go, Let's get younger, because Dame is thirty um, 686 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: and you trade him for Ben Simmons. No, not just 687 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, Well, Ben Simmons, thy Ball, you could You're 688 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,959 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to give up Simmons, teeth, thy ball 689 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: and maybe another big to get Damian Lillard. But you 690 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: put Lillard with Tobias Harris and Joel Embiid Yeah, who who? 691 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: I like that? But you know, Daryl, I like that, Billy, 692 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: Daryl Morey loves to swing for the fences the GM 693 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: of the Sixers. I gotta believe somebody's gonna swing for 694 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: the fences, you know with the Knicks do with the Knicks, 695 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: you have to try to pull something, wouldn't you? How 696 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: would Damian Lillard, you know, be in the garden with 697 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: that young team. It depends on on that young team. 698 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: Who are you giving up? Are you giving up r? J? Barrett? Probably? 699 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: I assume he'd probably have to be in that Do 700 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: you are you keeping Julius Randall? It depends on the pieces. 701 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: I think what New York and the Knicks did this 702 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: year was great. They made it more appealing for free 703 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: agents to potentially think, all right, New York is not 704 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: as bad as place as they've been over the last 705 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: ten plus years. I could give them a shot. But 706 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: there's other like the Philadelphia if you're Moray in Philly. 707 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: Because here's the thing, the Brooklyn Nets are only going 708 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: to get better and hopefully knock on Wood stay healthier 709 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 1: with Kyrie and James Harder and obviously KD. So right 710 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: now there, I put them as the best team in 711 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: the in the East. But if you had Lillard to 712 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: Philadelphia with Joel, I mean that's a different story. That's 713 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: a different story. Now talking to Reggie Millner as a 714 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, you want a gold medal, I think 715 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: he had twenty points in that gold medal game in 716 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: ninety six, something like that. I mean twenty two twenty. 717 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not got twenty six. I don't know. 718 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: I can't remember. I was getting buckets versus Yugoslavia. Yes, 719 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: we had Grant, Hill, had Hardaway, we had Jack, we 720 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: had Hakim, we had Mitch Richmond. How did you get 721 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: a chem he was an American citizen by that man, 722 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 1: that's a great acquisition. We had David our Sinners shot 723 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: David Robinson a Chimalai Juan in ninety six in Atlanta. 724 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 1: It was Karl Malone on that team. Karl Malo, Charles, Scottie, 725 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 1: Miss Richmond, Grant Hardaway and Hardaway and Gary Payton. Dang, 726 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 1: we had a squad. We had a squaw. Okay, how 727 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: would that team do against the Dream Team? That would 728 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: have been a good matchup. We win by three. I 729 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: don't know. I would love to have seen it. But 730 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: because some players on ninety two, we're on ninety six. 731 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: So who you you know, Bartley's got to be on 732 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: the Dream Team. You lose him and Carl on the 733 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: Dream Team and often and pippin An the next Yeah, 734 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: so we okay, we lose by fifteen, all right, But 735 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: when you play on a team like that, how do 736 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: you decide, like who is the go to guy? Charles was, 737 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: you know, great on the Dream Team. He was I 738 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: think the leading scorer in the Dream Team. But how 739 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: do you decide without acknowledging, Hey, this is the go 740 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: to guy or this is the guy we're gonna have game? Okay? 741 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: There were some games a lot of teams played zone 742 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: against us because they were afraid of Shock and Robinson 743 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: and a team, so they packed it in and played zone. 744 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: Those were my nights that me and Mitch we were 745 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: like celebrating. Oh, you guys are gonna play the zone 746 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: against us and we're pure shooters. That's great. And there's 747 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: other times when teams played man to man and you know, 748 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: we just gave it to Carl and Shack and and 749 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: Big Fella and Charles and they just went crazy down low. 750 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: So we win game by game and there was really there. 751 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: There weren't any egos. We were just out there to 752 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: have fun and win a gold medal and we achieved that. 753 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: Did you did you have any beefs with those guys 754 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: and then they become your teammates zero zero, but going 755 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: into it before being on the drink or the Olympic team, Uh, 756 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: they're hand to me. Some guys who hated you, Well 757 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,919 Speaker 1: they may have hated me, but I didn't hate them. 758 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I got a chance to know John Stockton, 759 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, you hear a lot of things. 760 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: You know, you've only played Utah twice, and it was, 761 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, someone of a I wouldn't say dirty player, 762 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: but he's known that. You know him, and I love 763 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: I loved what it was all about. You know, it 764 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: was all about winning and to get a chance to 765 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: know him and his family Sam mccarl To get a 766 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: chance to know those kind of guys was kind of 767 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,399 Speaker 1: cool from my end. You lead the team in three 768 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: point attempts. I'm good a guess, I hope. So yeah, 769 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: looking up Polly Polly, Yeah I did. What did I average? 770 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: I'm dream team in ninety six, I had to be 771 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: one of the leading score Yeah, you were eleven point 772 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,959 Speaker 1: four points per game. Barkley was twelve point four, David 773 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: Robinson was twelve. So you threw the top scores. You 774 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: You were the lowest amount of turnovers on the entire 775 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: team because I wasn't passenger, the little selfish dude both myself. 776 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: But does Shaq say give me the ball at any point? Yeah? 777 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: Shot got upset with me one time during the Olympics. 778 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: There wasn't a be but like I kept feeding David 779 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: Robinson and a team, right, and then Shot comes in. 780 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: He's like, what okay, you're going what's going on? So 781 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: this is why to this day I tell him, this 782 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 1: is why you took it out on us in the finals, right, 783 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,439 Speaker 1: and you know between the bases and this is why 784 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,320 Speaker 1: he's like, no, RG, you know, I just wanted to 785 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: sober Smith. I was like no, you're getting me back 786 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: from ninety six right for not feeding you the ball 787 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: down low. He's like, you know, I'm the best center 788 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: out here, and with David Robinson and Kiman One, I'm 789 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: the best center out here. Give me the ball. The 790 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: ball was it? How different was it to play in 791 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 1: the finals? Like the pressure to play in an NBA 792 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: finals as opposed to an Eastern Conference finals or first 793 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 1: round of a playoff game, Like you know every possession, 794 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,240 Speaker 1: you hear this all the time. It takes a life 795 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: of its own. I had a horrendous, horrible Game one, 796 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: and to me, to this day, just it bugs and 797 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: irks me that my game won performance to me affected 798 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: our team the rest of the series. I thought I 799 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: shot one for thirteen, um had like twelve thirteen points. 800 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,399 Speaker 1: But that set the tone because I have always been 801 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: the guy. If we would have I would have played 802 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: well and we have lost. That's still what a game. 803 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: The rest of the guys, ho, it's all mental, It's 804 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 1: all mental, But why did you play? Played great the 805 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: rest of the series. I played great the rest of 806 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: the series, But to me, that Game one just haunts me. 807 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 1: It just I should have I should have been better 808 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: in that Game one, just to put something on Kobe's 809 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: in Shack's mind, and I didn't, and that it just 810 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: bugs me. Why did you play poorly? I didn't shoot 811 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: the ball? Well, you know what, maybe I exceled a 812 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: little bit because we had just beaten the Knicks. We 813 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: got past our arch nemesis, Nemesis, and I exceled, and 814 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 1: that's what I should have took three or four more 815 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: deeper breaths and then like, okay, now we're in the finals, 816 00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: and I exceled for a moment and to cause to 817 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 1: me in Game one again, I played find the rest 818 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:08,720 Speaker 1: of the series. But to me, you know, there's certain 819 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: moments in certain games. I always remember more that Game one. 820 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: I just wish I could have back. Yeah, it's twenty 821 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: one years ago. Shack put up forty three and nineteen 822 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:22,399 Speaker 1: I think. And how many free polly, how many free 823 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: throws did he shoot that game? One of the games 824 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 1: he shot thirty nine free throws? How many free throws? 825 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: Because he must have shot at least twenty five that game. 826 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: In Game one, Shack was one for six from the 827 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 1: free throw line. That's it, yep. What was the game 828 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: when he shot like thirty nine free throws. Checking. He 829 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,439 Speaker 1: shot thirty nine free throws in the finals. A game 830 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 1: in the Finals thirty something, Wow, yeah, Paul. Game two, 831 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: Shack had forty points, twenty four rebounds. He was eighteen 832 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: to thirty nine from the free throw line forty six percent, 833 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 1: eighteen of thirty nine, thirty nine free throws. He went 834 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:12,439 Speaker 1: through Rick and Yil Davis. We threw often, We threw 835 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,879 Speaker 1: everything at him. We was like, we're just gonna put 836 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: him on the line. We had zero and we were 837 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 1: treating him like Yannis. Thirty nine thirty nine free throw Yeah, Paul, 838 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,879 Speaker 1: and we and we still lost Reggie in that entire 839 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 1: NBA Finals, you missed one free throw? You were forty 840 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 1: five or forty six? D It bugs me, It bugs me? 841 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 1: One free throw? Are you kidding me? That's unacceptable? Was unacceptable? What? What? 842 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,800 Speaker 1: What did Shaq shoot from the line in the NBA 843 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: Finals for the series? He was thirty six of ninety three. 844 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, And we're talking about Jannis. He missed 845 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: more of that week than Reggie missed in his life. 846 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: You didn't miss that many he throws in your career. 847 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: Reg Oh my god. Dominant. He was. We had no 848 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: answer for shock. It was young Kobe, so I could 849 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 1: still I could get to Kobe a little bit. He 850 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 1: put on when Shack filed out of Game four and 851 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: Kobe took over. See you're making me have therapy and 852 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: have therapy on air. That's another moment like I just 853 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 1: wish we could have back that when Shaq filed out 854 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,280 Speaker 1: God and we went to overtime, that was our chance. 855 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: The tiredest series up two two and game five that's 856 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: when I went two three two. Game five is in 857 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: our building. If we win that, which we did. We 858 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: go up three two coming home and then we got 859 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: to win one of two. It's great to talk to 860 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: you today. I hate I hate you. Enjoy the rest 861 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 1: of your day. Reg. Oh yeah, that's gonna be tipper 862 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: now on my bike ride all I'm gonna be thinking 863 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 1: about and going one for thirteen in game one. Oh great, 864 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 1: he's Reggie Miller, Hall of Famer joining us. Thank you, 865 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: Reg love you, dan Ads. I'm going to Iceland.