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Speaker 1: Welcome in Everybody, Friday, January sixteenth edition of The Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I say it because the

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Speaker 1: month has gone by. I cannot believe we are already

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Speaker 1: into twenty twenty six. I'm starting to say the right

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Speaker 1: year or write it down more so on checks and

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Speaker 1: things like that. Have been twenty five for the first week,

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Speaker 1: and Trump is not wasting any time. We had a

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Speaker 1: rural health round table this morning, which we shall be

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Speaker 1: discussing here shortly. Healthcare is going to be a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Caroline Levitt gets into it, gets into it from the

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Speaker 1: Podius Feisty. She went mama Bear mode on some well

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Speaker 1: left wing hack to borrow from her Oh at the

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Speaker 1: with the Hill, a reporter from the Hill. I used

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Speaker 1: to work at the Hill long time ago. And yeah, interesting.

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Speaker 1: And then there's more on ice here. This is now

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Speaker 1: the fight, my friends. This is what it is. They

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Speaker 1: can't beat Trump on the economy, they can't slow him down.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the Spreme Court will, but they can't slow him

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Speaker 1: down on tariffs. But it is in fact on immigration

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Speaker 1: enforcement that Democrats are making their big stand. Minnesota at

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Speaker 1: the heart of this whole thing, and we'll give you

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Speaker 1: more of those details plus Greenland will it become trump Land?

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Speaker 1: That is something that is very much in the ether.

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Speaker 1: Clan are talking about this. I think we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to do a show from Greenland. This is one of

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Speaker 1: these things that I've said out loud and now I'm

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Speaker 1: going to make At first I was kidding, and now

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Speaker 1: I'm not really kidding. I'm working on this. You have

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Speaker 1: been diving into this. I am going to I am

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Speaker 1: happy to go. I am going to before what's the

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Speaker 1: opposite of Monday morning quarterbacking, I'm going to Friday morning

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Speaker 1: quarterback this before even the game is played. You and

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Speaker 1: I are going to get to Greenland and no communication

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Speaker 1: devices are gonna work. So like we have to bank

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Speaker 1: an entire show that airs if we just can't get

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Speaker 1: on the air in Greenland right where we just come

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Speaker 1: on and we're like, hey, if you're hearing this, probably

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Speaker 1: means that we are unconnectable somewhere in Greenland. Like this

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Speaker 1: is definitely a danger. I think that you are underestimating

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Speaker 1: the telecommunication capacity of NUK, the capital of Greenland.

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Speaker 2: I have more faith in that.

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Speaker 1: I have no respect in Nook's communication capabilities as it

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Speaker 1: pertains to getting us on to five hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: five stations in all fifty states.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: I have been doing research into this. The best way

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Speaker 1: for us to get a real sense of what could be.

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Speaker 1: You know how, there's the Gulf of America. Now this

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Speaker 1: could be the Greenland of America. We shall see. But

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Speaker 1: the best way to check it out is dog sledding,

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Speaker 1: which some of our Minnesota listeners perhaps already engage in sometimes.

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Speaker 2: But I've dog sledded before you have. Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Laura Travis is a very big fan, having grown up

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Speaker 1: in Michigan of winter related activities, and so one of

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Speaker 1: the times when we were out.

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Speaker 2: The boys ski. I don't ski.

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Speaker 1: I'm a you know, dumb redneck who never got on

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Speaker 1: ski slopes as a young guy. So that's one sport

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Speaker 1: I don't need to get into. But we got on

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Speaker 1: the dog sled and it was super I have to say,

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Speaker 1: it was pretty cool, cold cool. You might be back

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Speaker 1: on the dog sled, perhaps with some native guides. The

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Speaker 1: only thing is I need Laura Travis to give permission here.

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Speaker 1: She's gonna have to like sign that this is okay.

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Speaker 1: I don't want her mad at me. If you twisted

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Speaker 1: an ankle or something on the dog sled, or I'm

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Speaker 1: not knowing.

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Speaker 2: Where you want to go.

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Speaker 1: She's been begging to go to Iceland for some time,

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Speaker 1: which has become a very popular tourist destination for people

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Speaker 1: who don't know. No one, however, goes to Greenland at all.

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Speaker 1: So you and I would be among the first tourists

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Speaker 1: to visit Greenland from the United States and the history

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Speaker 2: So that's something that's out there.

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Speaker 1: We might wait a little bit because I'm not even

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you can get flights there right now. We

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Speaker 1: something we'll have to plan out. But clay in Buck's

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Speaker 1: excellent Adventure Greenland edition might be something that in fact

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Speaker 1: happens on the show. Let's get into the news for

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Speaker 1: a second here, Trump talking this morning at this rural

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Speaker 1: health roundtable. Why does this matter? Well, healthcare matters to

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Speaker 1: all of us. The cost is outrageous, The system is

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Speaker 1: a mess. The government intervention in this has been nothing

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Speaker 1: but disastrous. They've made it worse. Obamacare made it worse

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Speaker 1: across the board, and specifically, rural areas have gotten the

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Speaker 1: short end of the stick. On this one, Trump was

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Speaker 1: Medicaid spending, for example, it's pretty much all just going

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Speaker 1: into the cities, the population centers, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: Democrat votes there play two.

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Speaker 3: Rural hospitals and communities were devastated by soarign cost and

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Speaker 3: that continues despite colossal increase in government spending since Obamacare

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Speaker 3: was passed. Only seven percent of the annual Medicaid spending

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Speaker 2: Very little They didn't care.

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Speaker 3: Obama didn't care about the rural community, it'd be totally blunt.

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Speaker 3: What he did care about is insurance companies. And this

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Speaker 3: was a bill to make insurance companies wealthy, and they did.

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Speaker 3: They made insurance companies very wealthy. I would say, they

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Speaker 3: don't like me too much because they spent hundreds of

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Speaker 3: billions of dollars and we're going to have that money

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Speaker 3: spent to the people and given to the people, not

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Speaker 3: we're going to circumvent the insurance companies.

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Speaker 1: Clay he recognizes that if you're talking affordability, the single

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Speaker 1: place where I think people are finding the most pain

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Speaker 1: over the longest period of time. Is their healthcare costs

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Speaker 1: or just outrageous? Yes, and Obamacare is a failure. So,

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Speaker 1: by the way, is the argument that if we stopped

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Speaker 1: some of these sub cities for Obamacare that remember when

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Speaker 1: think it's important to come back sometimes when these awful

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Speaker 1: predictions don't come true and say, hey, remember when we

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Speaker 1: were all told. I think that the Democrats said seven

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Speaker 1: million people would lose health insurance if the subsidies were

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Speaker 1: dialed back for Obamacare. And open enrollment has basically ended,

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Speaker 1: and there's about a million less people enrolled in Obamacare

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Speaker 1: seems to be happening buck is and this is why

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Speaker 1: Democrats the fraud is so rampant in all this healthcare.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are getting signed up for Obamacare,

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Speaker 1: potentially millions of them, and the healthcare companies are getting

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Speaker 1: So this is real, and I understand a lot of

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Speaker 2: We don't talk about it that much.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people that have Obamacare now it appears

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Speaker 1: of these subsidies. A lot of the people in Obamacare

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Speaker 1: cover people who either don't need the coverage or don't

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Speaker 2: Does that sound like a good system to you? It's

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Speaker 2: waste with fraud.

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Speaker 1: It's also not insurance, which we all know from. Do

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Speaker 1: I pay more for wind insurance here in Miami where

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Speaker 1: we have hurricanes than people will who you know live

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Speaker 1: in I don't know. Is Tennessee wind insurance a big thing?

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Speaker 1: Clay probably not. Well, we have tornadoes? Oh sorry, a tornadoes? Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: others probably. I would say Vermont, there's not a time

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Speaker 1: many tornadoes, hurricanes typically not hitting Vermont. I would bet

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Speaker 1: I have a whole plan that we need to just

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Speaker 1: make Vermont red right.

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Speaker 2: It's not hard. We colonize it very easily.

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Speaker 1: Tennessee could lend us enough Republicans easily to colonize Vermont.

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Speaker 1: I love Vermont as a state. It's beautiful. I used

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Speaker 1: highly recommend it to any of you if you can

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Speaker 1: get there. But it's Bernie Sandersville. I mean, the politics

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Speaker 1: there are it's pure COMMI it's beautiful place. Anyway, I'll

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Speaker 1: talk about my Vermont planet. I got Greenland, I got

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Speaker 1: things going on here. But back to the healthcare thing, Clay,

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Speaker 1: we don't it's not actually insurance because the whole system

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Speaker 1: is set up so that people who are young and

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Speaker 2: It's a transfer of wealth.

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Speaker 1: It's a program of incredibly complicated subsidies where the corporations. Also,

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Speaker 1: because of the way these Obamacare is written in the

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Speaker 1: the companies, the healthcare providers are incentivized to deny a

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Speaker 1: lot of claims for people. They're incentivized to make sure

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Speaker 1: but they don't actually provide healthcare. This is people don't

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Speaker 1: and wasting it. Medicaid fraud annually, Clay, I think they

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Speaker 2: Well, did you see we.

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Speaker 1: Talked about this with Scott Besson. He came on and

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Speaker 2: Well, he said ten percent of the entire US budget

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Speaker 2: is fraud.

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Speaker 1: Yes, six hundred to eight hundred billion dollars, depending on

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Speaker 1: from any number of federal programs which subsidized state fraud.

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Speaker 1: Like what really started this whole Minneapolis mess was the

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Speaker 1: degree of fraud going on in their daycare system, which

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Speaker 1: led to President Trump's decision to surge resources there for

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Speaker 1: The amount of deportations that are occurring is potentially going

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Speaker 1: to alter to a substantial degree the twenty thirty census

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Speaker 1: because remember, for purposes of House of Representatives representation, illegal

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Speaker 1: This gives Democrats a plus ten or so benefit at

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Speaker 1: least in the House. And we're talking about the entire

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Speaker 1: So starting in twenty thirty, that advantage is going to vanish.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the big impacts why Democrats are

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Speaker 1: and they're seeing it happen. Trump also saying here that

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Speaker 1: they've increased funding for rural health care. You know rural

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Speaker 1: tends to mean red in this country. This has cut one.

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Speaker 1: Listen to what the man has to say.

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Speaker 3: As part of the great, big, beautiful bill, where increased

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal, I just mentioned this, and again I

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Speaker 2: Think about that, Buck, If you have twenty four million.

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Speaker 1: People signed up for Obamacare, doesn't it seem crazy that

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Speaker 1: it's all true. Everything we've said is true. Your healthcare

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Speaker 1: Things continuing to heat up over immigrations and customs enforcement

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Speaker 1: But they're making this their big stand against the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: And we've seen some really outrageous things, you know. To Clay,

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Speaker 4: The accusation has been by conservatives, including by you Scott,

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Speaker 2: But we just played it there.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you cherry picked a handful of comments.

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Speaker 4: Where he said we're under a federal occupation.

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Speaker 2: That language that inciting good? Of course it is.

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Speaker 4: What does that language sound like to you? You have

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Speaker 2: That aren't true.

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Speaker 4: And what has happened. One lady went out and got

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Speaker 4: The illegals came out and tried to beat an ICE

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Speaker 1: Good points there from Scott. They are clearly using language

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Speaker 5: Hit it in Minnesota. Right now. The insurrectionists have come

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Speaker 1: Yep insurrectionist clay. When you're attacking law enforcement in a

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Speaker 1: Well not only that buck, and I think President Trump

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Speaker 2: Are covers, say a lot some covers tell you this

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Speaker 2: cover if you have if you have face.

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Speaker 1: Tattoos, what do you think the rate of violent crime

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Speaker 1: is for face tattoo guy compared to non face type

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Speaker 1: tattoo ten x the general I was going to say

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Speaker 1: one hundred to one, one hundred times as likely. I

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Speaker 1: think I think if you have a face tattoo, I

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Speaker 1: think you are one hundred times as likely. It's all men,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I don't think that many chicks have

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Speaker 1: face tattoos. If you are a man with a face tattoo,

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Speaker 1: I think you are one hundred times as likely to

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Speaker 1: have committed a violent crime or have a violent criminal

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Speaker 1: history as someone that does not have a face tattoo.

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Speaker 1: And I think that might even be low Buck was

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Speaker 1: going to go ten and when I say, you look

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Speaker 1: at this guy, and he got a arrested and Tommy

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Speaker 1: larn posted a response on this. But who the faces

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Speaker 1: are of the arguments you make matter? And the fact

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Speaker 1: that Democrats are consistently picking guys with violent crimes, who

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Speaker 1: are illegally in this country to be their face of

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Speaker 1: opposition is not helping them.

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Speaker 2: I think in general, now here is the challenge.

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Speaker 1: Because I was reading from Axios this morning on it Buck,

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Speaker 1: Democrats are having some success in convincing people who are

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Speaker 1: not like most of our listeners and are not like

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Speaker 1: you and me, that this ice, these ice raids are

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Speaker 1: unacceptable and politically unpopular, and so I think that the

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Speaker 1: question Axios This was the Axios lead in their Morning

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Speaker 1: Digest that I was reading this morning as I was

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Speaker 1: getting ready for the show. I think the question is

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Speaker 1: is how do you combat this idea that the left

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Speaker 1: has put in place that these are innocent people primarily

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Speaker 1: that are being taken out of the country when I

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Speaker 1: think the reality is most of the people that are

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Speaker 1: being taken out of the country are violent perpetrators that

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Speaker 1: we know they are criminals because they are legally here,

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Speaker 1: so they certainly are criminals. But I do think that's

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Speaker 1: the question. I don't think Democrats have gotten the right

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Speaker 1: face of the anti ICE protest yet. I think they

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Speaker 1: wanted Renee Good to be that face. They've used her more.

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Speaker 1: It's better, I think, probably for them than killmar A

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Speaker 1: Breo Garcia or certainly these dudes who were arrested that

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Speaker 1: got into that one of them was shot in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: But did you see Jacob for I come out and say, basically,

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Speaker 1: we only have six hundred cops and we've got three

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Speaker 1: thousand ICE agents in the country. Maybe we'll play that

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Speaker 1: cut for you later in the show or in the

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Speaker 1: city rather. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the city. One reason

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Speaker 1: they only have six hundred cops is because they can't

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Speaker 1: fill the existing police officer openings, because they've been so

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Speaker 1: disrespectful and lacking in backing up their police officers that

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Speaker 1: if you could choose, like hey, do I want to

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Speaker 1: be in Minneapolis or do I want to be in Miami,

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Speaker 1: you know, hey, I think I'd rather be a cop

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Speaker 1: in Miami. They'll actually have my back. There are lots

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Speaker 1: of places out there where cops are supported. Minneapolis is

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Speaker 1: not one of those places.

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Speaker 2: You know how many murders there were in.

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Speaker 1: The city of Miami clay and I think it was

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Speaker 1: last well, twenty twenty four is the last one that

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Speaker 1: we have. The full crime data for Miami has about

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Speaker 1: six hundred thousand people in it. There are thirty homicides

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Speaker 1: in Miami.

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Speaker 2: Not all. That's pretty incredible. It's just not a lot

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Speaker 2: of by the way going on here.

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Speaker 1: What you would say, what I would build on top

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Speaker 1: of that is city of Miami might have six hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand people. Actually, the Miami proper is probably what like

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Speaker 1: five or six million would be my guess. Metro Miami

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Speaker 1: is probably five or six million, would be my guess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet.

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Speaker 1: Really, you could just do it with Miami Dade County,

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Speaker 1: which with Miami Dade has three million people, so it's

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Speaker 1: about three million. So I bet the surrounding community of Miami,

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Speaker 1: if you take in the metropolitan area, I bet there

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Speaker 1: was only buck sixty five murders in all of Miami

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Speaker 1: when you add up all, that's my guests in all

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Speaker 1: of Miami Metropolitan proper. In other words, it's not just

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Speaker 1: the city Miami Proper that's safe. It is my goodness

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Speaker 1: that area in general is super super safe. And that

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Speaker 1: is the case. For instance, where I live in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: Nashville had seventy murders. Metro Nashville had like seventy three. Right,

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Speaker 1: So if you actually count outside of the downtown district

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Speaker 1: and combine everybody who lives there, there's basically no murders

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Speaker 1: like taking place. I think we had a sixty year

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Speaker 1: low in Nashville. Here here we have a wonderful thing

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Speaker 1: where and it's even more so. And I have friends

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Speaker 1: on the Miami Beach Police Department specifically, which is a

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Speaker 1: different city technical than By the way, there were no

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Speaker 1: actually say no, I mean if there were if there

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Speaker 1: were any murders.

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Speaker 2: In Miami Beach last year, it was like three.

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Speaker 1: It was very very few, because they usually fold that

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Speaker 1: in with Miami overall. To your point, but here here's

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Speaker 1: why this matters policy wise, why it matters from Minneapolis,

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Speaker 1: and why it's part of our discussion.

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Speaker 2: Play.

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Speaker 1: You have support for the cops in the city of

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Speaker 1: Miami and in the state of Florida from Governor Ron

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Speaker 1: De Santis and Attorney General Uth Meyer on down. So

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Speaker 1: they know if you're doing if you're a cop here,

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Speaker 1: first of all, they like you, We like you, Thank

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Speaker 1: you for doing what you're doing. This is true across

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Speaker 1: the state of Florida. And if you're.

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Speaker 2: Doing the right things, they've got your back. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: there's not there's not gonna be in this nonsense. You're

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Speaker 2: seeing these.

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Speaker 1: Other places where we throw cops to the angry mob.

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Speaker 1: That's some sort of a race communism, offering to the

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Speaker 1: god something. We don't do that here, no doubt. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, the impact is tangible in the data.

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Speaker 1: As many things are positive, it's not getting that much

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Speaker 1: attention to the grand scheme of things. Not only is

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Speaker 1: the murder rate collapsing nationwide, the biggest drop that we've

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Speaker 1: ever seen according to FBI data. How about buck We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about this maybe a little bit later, and certainly

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Speaker 1: it's a big story worth paying attention to. Fentanyl deaths,

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Speaker 1: that is, overdose deaths are collapsing in the United States.

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Speaker 1: One of the biggest drops we have ever seen just

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Speaker 1: took place in twenty twenty five do you think that

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Speaker 1: maybe possibly shutting down the southern border and making it

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Speaker 1: harder for people to cross into this country, do you

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Speaker 1: think that, maybe possibly that might have had a big

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Speaker 1: impact on the safety of so many people in this

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Speaker 1: often the case. By the way, we'll hit you with

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Speaker 1: this and maybe some analysis. This just popped President Trump.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about the tension in Iran, President Trump

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Speaker 1: tweeting or truthing. I suppose I greatly respect the fact

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Speaker 1: that all scheduled hangings which were to take place yesterday,

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Speaker 1: over eight hundred of them, have been canceled by the

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Speaker 1: leadership of Iran.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of an interesting Uh again, you never

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Speaker 1: that's right, my middle son. But so we'll see whether

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Speaker 1: this is a little bit of a dial back that

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Speaker 1: for not executing eight hundred people. By the way, eight

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is the problem. Here is what Trump said. Again,

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Speaker 2: I gave it.

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Speaker 1: This is the latest information on what is going on

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Speaker 1: with Iran. I greatly respect the fact all scheduled hangings,

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Speaker 1: hangings which were to take place yesterday, over eight hundred

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Speaker 1: of them, according to President Trump, had been canceled by

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Speaker 1: the leadership. Thank you is in your mind? Buck, as

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Speaker 1: a former CIA skilled analyst, is this Trump sending up

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Speaker 1: a false flag of positivity while steaming the Abraham Lincoln

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Speaker 1: into the Middle East with potential other actions coming, or

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Speaker 1: does it represent in your mind a legitimate thaw in

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Speaker 1: relations in any way? No, I think this is Trump

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Speaker 1: didn't believe that there was an option for US strikes

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Speaker 1: that would bring an end to the regime, and so

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Speaker 1: he looked at the options and said, we'll take something

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Speaker 1: else here. I don't think that he's preparing to hit Iran.

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Speaker 1: I think that this was a situation unlike Venezuela, where

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Speaker 1: our leverage, our control, the opposition in place, all of

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Speaker 1: those things were not strong enough for Trump to feel

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Speaker 1: justified in taking kinetic action. So that means the regime's

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Speaker 1: going to stay, by the way, which is what I

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Speaker 1: told you guys all along. I said, if Trump doesn't

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Speaker 1: do something, the regime's not going for sure, He's not.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to do anything, which means

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Speaker 1: this regime is staying, which probably means that he's been

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Speaker 1: told that his strikes would not have toppled the regime

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Speaker 1: exactly what he decided not to make the decision to

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Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, so why send the Abraham Lincoln into

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Speaker 1: the Middle East as leverage because Iran doesn't know right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Clay, it's it's all about the unpredictability of Trump.

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Speaker 1: That's where he is right now. He can changes mine

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Speaker 1: next week. Yes, so you know he might decide something

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Speaker 1: on that menu of options he was provided is necessary

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Speaker 1: in fact, or maybe something changes with leverage inside of Iran.

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Speaker 1: But whereas I have high confidence that it'll be a

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Speaker 1: little messy. But Venezuela is going to start to be

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Speaker 1: put in a much better trajectory Iran. I don't think

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Speaker 1: don't think it'd be enough. We will update you on more.

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Speaker 1: There continued fallout. The opposition leader was in the White

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Speaker 1: House yesterday and gave Trump her Nobel Peace Prize. I

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Speaker 1: believe we'll talk about that and more. Second Hour plus

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Speaker 1: our buddy Ryan Gardusky on redistricting, Fat's coming