1 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on eight 3 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland, presented by bally Bet Sportsbook, an official 4 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly. 5 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zigura. 6 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: It's are live on a football Friday edition of Cleelandron's Daily. 7 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 3: I am merely Bo. He is the great Z. 8 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: I feel like this morning it was sixty and as 9 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: we were we had a nice little siesta and enjoyed 10 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: ourselves little fiesta. I suppose it would have been more 11 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: appropriate we did shorts. We both shorted it up. But 12 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: as I pulled back in here today something changed. It's 13 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: getting chilly, gusty. The windst are blowing. It's wild winds. 14 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: The winds have changed, are blown playoff winds. I think 15 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: this could be the winds that are of of everything 16 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: that was coming out of Michael Irvin. 17 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 4: Last night that have made their ways up to here 18 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 4: right now. Then it's a raider. I gotta tell you something. 19 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 4: I found out something today that absolutely has blown my mind. Advisory, Yeah, 20 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 4: there's one advisory that's right. Gust up to fifty. Did 21 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 4: you know, okay, young Gabriel, yep, has never been on 22 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 4: an airplane. No, No, I did not know that. Well 23 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 4: you do now that is? 24 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 5: So? 25 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: Is it always just a drive? I mean that was 26 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: my upbringing. 27 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: I wasn't on a plane until I was like, I 28 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: want to say, a sophomore in in was the first 29 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: time I was on a plane. 30 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 31 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 6: So we never flew anywhere. We never went far enough 32 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 6: to fly. I mean it always felt Plus we weren't 33 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 6: sure how my sister would do on. 34 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 3: Flights especial needs sister. That's right, yep. 35 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 6: So like North Carolina's the furthest we go. 36 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 4: We just drive it. Yeah, it's nice. Disney World once 37 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 4: drove that. 38 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 3: Oh baby, that's tough, big, that's a long ways. 39 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 4: I don't remember the first plane I was on, but 40 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 4: I know that when I was in like sixth grade, 41 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 4: I was in New Zealand and didn't I didn't get 42 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 4: there by walking. No, I'm sure I flew down to 43 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 4: La once cause I remember being on those planes where 44 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 4: the wings came over the top of the plane and 45 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 4: they had like multiple engines for this little short squat plane. 46 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 4: That was kind of the forerunner of like regional jet. 47 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 4: They weren't propellers. Yeah, it was like a jet. So 48 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: we go to La Yeah, and I go to Tucson. Yeah, 49 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 4: I've driven that as well. People don't understand how big 50 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: the West is. West is large. 51 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: They don't understand it. 52 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 7: Yeah. 53 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 4: I mean what you do from Ohio if you went 54 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: six hours in any direction, well you could hit three states, 55 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 4: Oh easy, for sure. In California I could go top 56 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 4: to bottom. You could go ten maybe. 57 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 3: Twelve, oh for sure. Yeah easy. 58 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 59 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 3: Montana too, Montana's great wise and width. 60 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 4: But so this is what I bring it up because Gibbe, 61 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 4: we got to get young Gabriel on a on a 62 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 4: trip next year. 63 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. 64 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 8: I was trying to get him on the Bengals one 65 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 8: this year. 66 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I think Yoda says Gibbe, do or do not? 67 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 4: There is no try, there is no try? 68 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 8: Why did not? It did not happen? 69 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: True? 70 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 7: He was not there, Gabriel. 71 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: You think it'll ever do you think air trave will 72 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: ever be great again? Like it was like in the 73 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: sixties and seventies and even the eighties, like treated like kings, 74 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: lots of room, wearing suits on planes, or. 75 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: It's always just gonna be steerage. 76 00:03:59,120 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: It's a mess. 77 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's getting worse. 78 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, Eventually, I feel we're going to get to the 79 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,559 Speaker 4: point where you can like beam somewhere, which will be sweet. 80 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: In our lifetime. Will we be beamed anywhere? 81 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 4: I don't think like Star Trek beam like that where 82 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 4: we're taking apart molecularly and then put back together. No, 83 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 4: I don't think so. But I do think there will 84 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: be at some point in our lifetime there will either 85 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 4: be there will be faster travel. Yeah, significantly, you'd think. 86 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 4: I do think we'd get there. It really hasn't evolved 87 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: that much. Jets mm hmm. The Concord was the only 88 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 4: time where you thought, all right, we're gonna go like 89 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 4: super songic. 90 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: What happened to that thing? Is it still around or 91 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: just wasn't feasible? 92 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 4: I think it wasn't making money they were at There 93 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,119 Speaker 4: were a lot to maintain, and then you get the issue. 94 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 4: You know, the birds would get sucked through. 95 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: And is that what the I don't know the history 96 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: of the concord. 97 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 8: Didn't it crash? 98 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 4: I mean, was there just one or were there multiple? 99 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: I think they're multiple. I love that we just turned 100 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: into a Concord deep dive. 101 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 4: Well Concord was a revolutionary Anglo French supersonic airliner flying 102 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 4: passengers at over twice the speed of sound mock two 103 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 4: plus from nineteen seventy six to two thousand and three, 104 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 4: offering rapid transatlantic travel in about three hours for about 105 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: one hundred first class passengers. It was a marvel of engineering, 106 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: featuring a droop nose in delta wings, but face high 107 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 4: cost and safety concerned, notably after the fatal two thousand 108 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 4: crash leading to its retirement by British Airways and Air France. 109 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: One crash and they quit because I. 110 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 4: Think it was something about it sucked bird. I feel 111 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 4: like I remember that. 112 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 9: But economical runway, economic viability and market shrinkage so like 113 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 9: the cost of it. Plus there was a decreasing demand 114 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 9: for the ultra fast travel at that time. 115 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 4: I could have used that coming home, Yeah, get me 116 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 4: to London and back in three hours. 117 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 8: In that'd have been nice and not a comfy trip. 118 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: What do you the at the current rate of airline tickets, 119 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: what would I wonder what the modern price for a 120 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: ticket on the Concord would be like seven one thousand dollars. 121 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 4: Let's say five to seven something like that for one 122 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 4: hundred seat they're making five hundred grand each flight. That's 123 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 4: not making But I mean then they got fuel, and 124 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 4: I imagine it burns fuel pretty quickly. Yeah. 125 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 2: I just don't understand how we haven't come up. It's 126 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: amazing that they just stopped that. Somebody hasn't been like, hey, 127 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: there were some technology there that worked. Why don't we 128 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: apply this to other planes and let's see if we 129 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: can get something going here? 130 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: All right, I'm in a deep corner of Reddit, the deepest, 131 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 4: the deepest. If it weren't for the accident two thousand, 132 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 4: how long would the concord have flown? I know it 133 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 4: was becoming expensive to operate in the post nine eleven environment. 134 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: How many cycles of the airframes have left Tustin Woul 135 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 4: they've been naturally faced out? Blah blah blah. I was 136 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 4: at a seminar by a senior British Airways captain last 137 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 4: year and asked him this very question. He said, all 138 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 4: other things considered that British Airways planned to operate the 139 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 4: aircraft till the mid twenty tens. Now, the two thousand 140 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: and eight fuel spike would have had severe dent in 141 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 4: the operations, as they would burn twenty five twenty five 142 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 4: thousand gallons a flight. Crude was at thirty a barrel 143 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 4: when it went out of service, reached one hundred and 144 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 4: forty barrel in two thousand and eight. The fuel bill 145 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 4: alone one way in peak two thousand eight would have 146 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 4: been north of one hundred k. If you're charging five 147 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 4: thousand a seat, that's five hundred grand one hundred. So 148 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 4: you saw four. You got to put your pilots, pay 149 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 4: you whatever. 150 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 3: It's quite a bit of light. 151 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like there's still a margin there. 152 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think so too. 153 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: I forgot about that. Man, yea, we need we need 154 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: that bad. That suck, Like, how can we know? We 155 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: were doing it to California in an hour? We were 156 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: doing this in the seventies, the seventies, we were doing this. 157 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: Why can't we do this now? That's kind of like 158 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: the electric car thing. Electric cars been round for a 159 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: long time. Yeah, Tessel's just the first ones. Was like, hey, 160 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: let's make it cool. Boy, did they really crushed kudos? 161 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: They really did. The sun was out this morning no longer, 162 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: no longer. The gray has come back, and I'm sure 163 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: we'll only have this until May. All right, you've got 164 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: we've got some interviews happening today here in Beria. Interviews 165 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: three and four happening today. Bengals offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher 166 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: is here and Seahawks defensive coordinator Aiden Dirty. 167 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: That's what we settled on. 168 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: Yes, is here as well in the brands of request 169 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: for mission interview Chargers defensive coordinator Jesse Minter for their 170 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: head coaching vacancy on a lot of these are the 171 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: same names, right, it's you know, interview here. There's eight 172 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: openings now, and so it kind of gets kind of 173 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: gets spread around when it comes to it, what do 174 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: you think you're looking for if you're ab and ownership 175 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: as you're circling these candidates. 176 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 4: Who can come in because lead this organization, who can 177 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 4: have that cultural impact on this organization? And then who 178 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: also is you know, who has that what I call, 179 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 4: you know, bucket three potential who can be the leader 180 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 4: but also be who can be the everything that we 181 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,119 Speaker 4: need that leader and the schematics avant that are the 182 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 4: ones who tend to be perennially successful because if you 183 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 4: look at, for example, even a McVeigh or if you 184 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 4: look at an Andy Reid or if you look at 185 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 4: a Kyle Shanahan. Now in the case of Andy Reid 186 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 4: with Patrick Mahomes, yes he has one of those all 187 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 4: time great quarterbacks. But the question is, did and how 188 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 4: much of a part to Dan you Reid play in 189 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 4: that development because he got the best out of Donovan mcnabby, 190 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 4: got the best out of Alex Smith. Yep, he got 191 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 4: the best out of a lot of quarterbacks that he's 192 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 4: worked with. Kyle Shanahan has done it with gotten out 193 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 4: of Jimmy Garoppolo what nobody else could get out of 194 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 4: Jimmy Garoppolo. He's made brock Purty, who was a seventh 195 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 4: round pick, look the way that brock Purty has looked. 196 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 4: And then you know McVeigh, whether it was GoF whether 197 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 4: Stafford who you know, again both former number one overall picks. 198 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: But nonetheless when they've had to fill somebody else in, 199 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 4: it's been they've been very good. I mean, look at 200 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 4: he obviously I think helped Baker for sure in that 201 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 4: time there. So I think that's what you're looking for. 202 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 4: Who can be that cultural leader first and foremost, I 203 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: mean that's number one, and then number two, who can 204 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 4: have that and the ability to be the scheme savant 205 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 4: that guides this thing to where we need it to be. 206 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the reason I ask good summation out of you. 207 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: The reason I ask is like, some of these guys 208 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 2: have nothing in common. And I'm not saying necessarily for us. 209 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, some of these teams are interviewing like 210 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: fourteen guys. Yeah, Like, how can you possibly cast that 211 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: wide of a net. 212 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: On what you're looking for? And and oftentimes it's all kind 213 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: of the same guys. 214 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 2: Like I just feel like if it were me and 215 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: I was in a situation where I was looking for 216 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: something as important as NFL head coach, I would have 217 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: a type that I would want because and again you 218 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: don't know. I guess you don't know until you get 219 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: him in there. But like I feel like we kind 220 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: of do. Like I think you kind of know who 221 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: the guys are, like following me to Freedom guys, you know, 222 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: the guys who are schematic guys. I think if you 223 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: get a schematic guy in front of you and you're like, oh, 224 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: he's he's it, he's got that it factor, Well, then 225 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: then they become everything. And maybe that's what it's all about. 226 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: But to me, I would have it narrowed down a 227 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: little bit more. 228 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: Not necessarily. 229 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: This isn't about us, It's just about the league as 230 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: opposed to interviewing. 231 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to interview fifteen guys. 232 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 4: So here's what I would say back to that, which is, 233 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: and I hear you, I'm not wanting to interview fifteen guys. 234 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 4: But I think that some of these interviews are. Yes, 235 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 4: it's for the head coaching do it. I think a 236 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: lot of it is information gathering. And so you're trying 237 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 4: to understand, you know, tell me about your scheme and 238 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 4: why that's been beneficial to you. Is this is a 239 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 4: copycat league? You know, you're interviewing guys the Seattle defense 240 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 4: has been great. The offensive listen, and when you're interviewing 241 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator regards effective he's a play color or not. 242 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 4: I imagine you're getting some intel and some insight into 243 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 4: the Bengals operation, which is valuable for you here, right, 244 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 4: What are the secrets? You know, find out some of 245 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 4: the secrets to their success, find out the secrets some 246 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 4: of the secrets of their organization. In the cases of 247 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 4: these winning organizations that maybe you hadn't thought of so 248 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 4: I think you're trying to get information about that. Are 249 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 4: there themes throughout the fifteen candidates that we see on 250 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 4: the teams that have been hyper successful? The teams we've 251 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 4: seen them have been moderately successful, The teams that we've 252 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 4: seen the have been not as successful, but we're still 253 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 4: interested in them, you know. So I think I think 254 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 4: there's a lot that I think there's a lot of 255 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 4: question about, well, what do you see with our operation, 256 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 4: what do you like about what we have here? What 257 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 4: didn't you like about what we did here? What are 258 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 4: your recommendations to improve what we're doing here? And so 259 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 4: now you're getting Okay, so fifteen guys, thirteen of the 260 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 4: fifteen all thought we need to do this, So maybe 261 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 4: that's something that we need to be thinking about as organization. 262 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 4: And then I think some of them you're interviewing, truthfully, 263 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 4: because you don't know who the head coach is going 264 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 4: to be and what that means for the rest of 265 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 4: your staff. You're interview some of these guys as potential 266 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 4: coordinator hires in the event that you're you know, current 267 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 4: coordinator on both sides of the ball, one side of 268 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 4: the ball are not here anymore? So I think that's 269 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 4: what it is. I think it's a lot more of 270 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 4: not that every all fifteen of those people have equal 271 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 4: shot to actually become your next head coach, but there 272 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 4: is something that you think is valuable to be gleaned 273 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 4: from them, either about their operation, their organization, their scheme, 274 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 4: and then their perception of your operation organization scheme. And 275 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 4: I think you're trying to cull there's much information from 276 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 4: what you consider to be high level intelligent people who 277 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 4: are either of like the today's leaders in the league 278 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 4: potential leaders of the league tomorrow. Yeah, and get all 279 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 4: that information together. So you almost have kind of Okay, 280 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 4: this is These seem to be the common threads of 281 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 4: what we need to be doing. These seem to be 282 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 4: the common threads of what people of where people think 283 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 4: the league is going. So I'm sure that's something you asked. 284 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,359 Speaker 4: Where are you feelings are going from the skame standpoint, offensively, defensively? 285 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 4: What does that? How does that affect personnel in your mind? 286 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 4: You know, we saw the league go from getting super 287 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 4: light and all these secondary heavy things, then we saw 288 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 4: teams really kind of swing the pendulum back and run 289 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 4: a little bit more So now is it going to 290 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: get you know, get the guys back on that are 291 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: heavier in the box, and then you're going to throw 292 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 4: the ball again. So I think it's a lot of 293 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 4: just information gathering about the individual, but also about the 294 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 4: way they see the trends in the league, the way 295 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 4: that they saw that, the success that they've had in 296 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 4: their current operation, the way that they view your operation. 297 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 3: That's why I mean in knowledge is power. 298 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right, why not? By the way, Kevin 299 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 4: Stefanski has uh released a letter to the Dog Pound 300 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 4: I will read food says, quote, thank you for your 301 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 4: incredible support over the last six seasons. I had a 302 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 4: front row seat to the unmatched passion of Browns fans. 303 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 4: The roars and barks from the crowd will always stay 304 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 4: with me. Please know that I'll always be indebted to 305 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 4: the city, this community, and you, the fans of the 306 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns. Kevin Stefanski, nice, yeah, good man. By the way, 307 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 4: did you see Jackson Dart yesterday? Did you see that? Yes? 308 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 4: I did him that it's going to be Kevin or Harborough. 309 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 4: He's had Harbor harbar Stefanski. Yeah, that was interesting. That 310 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 4: was You don't get that very often. 311 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: No, no, no, on the on the sidelines of the 312 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: game last night. One more quickly than we can talk 313 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 2: about that game, the Cowboys of request for mission interview 314 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: safeties coach f from Bonda. He's our guy for their 315 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: vacant defensive coordinator position. He uh interviewed for the colt's 316 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: job last year. 317 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: So there you go. 318 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 4: I think we have three guys who easily could be 319 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 4: defensive coordinators in this league on our defensive staff right 320 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 4: now in Tarvar Lynch and Bonda. Same surprise that Not 321 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 4: surprised at all that they are going to get that 322 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 4: coach Bonda is getting that interview at all. Not surprised 323 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 4: in the least. 324 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: The did you watch the game last night? What you 325 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: paratroop been on? 326 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 4: Probably first half into the third quarter. 327 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: Okay, pretty good game finish. 328 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 4: I watched on television Michael Irvin in the end zone 329 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: for the final touchdown. Incredible. 330 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: The we had a we have a text string about irv. 331 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm gonna tell you what. Like I was 332 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: in local television for a long time. There are a 333 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: couple of guys that I worked with in local television. 334 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: Because the guy he jumped in front of those are 335 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: guys shooting the game. That's right for either teams or 336 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: local they're. 337 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: Doing a job. 338 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: Yep, He's not supposed to be there, absolutely anywhere near there. 339 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: And there are people that I've worked with who would 340 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: have punched him in the throat for jumping in front 341 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: of their shot on the game winning touchdown of a. 342 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: National final game. 343 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: Like for sure too, I can think of for sure 344 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: who would have physically grabbed him, shoved him, or punched him. 345 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: Had he done that, it might not have ended well 346 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 4: for them. 347 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: Probably not, because he's on a hell of a cocktail, 348 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: it seems, and has and ray Lewis and ray Lewis 349 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: and all the rest of it. But like there has 350 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: to be some we love IRV. But like, come on, Coral, 351 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: corral him. 352 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: A little, a little, a little. 353 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 4: It's it's we're on another level right now, is where 354 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: we are. 355 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 3: We've never seen anything like this from him? 356 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: No, Like this is White House Cowboys, fourth year in 357 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: the league, IRV, Yes, at age at sixty dude, he 358 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: gave I don't even know how much cash he gave 359 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: to that ole miss fan for that shirt. Did you 360 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: see a clip of him being like, hey, can I 361 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: buy that shirt? And he just hands him a wad 362 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: of cash, takes a shirt that he then beats with 363 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: the belt. So somebody got a great payday for a 364 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: bread ole Miss Fiesta Bowl T shirt. At the end 365 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: of it, he put it on his social media. He 366 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 2: also knows that he's performing. He's micd up the whole time. 367 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: Oh okay, he's got cameras. I think with him, really 368 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: it feels like it. I mean, he has so much 369 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 2: content or he just knows that people are shooting it 370 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: and they send it to him and then he's putting 371 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: it up. But he has so much stuff on his 372 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 2: his own account about documenting all the things he's doing. 373 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 4: It really is incredible. I couldn't I love IRV incredible. 374 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: But you got him like hugging people after the game. 375 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: He had him doing another BTA. It's got like a 376 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 4: YouTube Michael Irvin logo on all these videos that he has, 377 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 4: so like somebody who So there's got to be a 378 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 4: yeah right here. Look he picks the guy out of 379 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 4: the crowd, Hey, come here, give me that shirt, gives 380 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 4: him a lot of cash, looks substantial, and takes the 381 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 4: shirt and then BTA, Yeah, like look he's Mike. So 382 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 4: he's got this mic up on him right here. Oh yeah, 383 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 4: he's all miked up, and I think he listened. People 384 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 4: are fast by this. I do think, as we've talked 385 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 4: about that, it is I said it last week, it 386 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 4: is all in play to me that he could easily 387 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 4: be involved in one of these in this game at 388 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 4: some point. 389 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 7: Yeah. 390 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 4: Wild. So I was on with Mo Pedman this morning, sure, 391 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 4: and he was all up in arms about the end 392 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 4: being pass interference, and I said, listen, my opinion on that, 393 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 4: and I've watched it by the letter, is it pass interference? 394 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 4: For sure? Probably they're both hand fighting a little bit, 395 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 4: but probably seem to be more on the defensive guy. Now, 396 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 4: in college, you could get away with throwing that flag 397 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 4: because it doesn't really kind of put them in the 398 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 4: end zone. 399 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 3: No fifteen yard penalty. 400 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 2: I mean, it was pretty crazy they went they got 401 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: the ball with eighteen seconds left in one time out 402 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: and went from the twenty five to him throwing a 403 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: shot in the end zone to win it. Yeah, Like 404 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: that's how quickly they got downfield, which was pretty wild. 405 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 2: I mean it was one hundred percent pass interference. You 406 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: can't pull somebody down from the jersey like that. But 407 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: I also think, and I'm consistent with this, I think 408 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: time and place you have to understand circumstances. 409 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 3: And you to me like you can't. And I know. 410 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 2: And the other part about this is Miami fans, if 411 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: there are any of them out there, are saying, well, what 412 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: about the one that went against us? We had one 413 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: of these in the Fiesta Bowl in O three go 414 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: against us when they thought they won the national championship 415 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: against Ohio State. Yep, And there was a late pass 416 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 2: interference call on that and that allowed Ohio State to 417 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 2: go inevitably win the game. So like that wasn't lost 418 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: to me that both were the Fiesta Bowl, different stadiums, 419 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: but both were Fiesta Bowl. One was a semi final, 420 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 2: ones a national title. 421 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 4: Yep. 422 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: But I'm always like. 423 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 4: Time and place, like that's what I said, I would 424 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 4: not have. 425 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't It's a massive It's just 426 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: the latest example of just how much that sport has changed, 427 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 2: that these are the four teams left and kind of 428 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 2: the idea that you know, Carson Beck, do you know 429 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 2: what recruiting class Carson Beck was. 430 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 4: In the same one as Bryce Young, c J. Stroud 431 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 4: and c J. Stroud and he's playing in and these 432 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 4: guys he just dread has been in the playoffs for 433 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 4: three years and three years and Bryce Thing's in the 434 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 4: playoffs this year and the yeah, yeah, yeah, I. 435 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: Mean he's he's in his sixth year of college football. Yep, Like, 436 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: what are we doing? These guys wanting six seven years 437 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: of college football? Like, and I get it because the 438 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,239 Speaker 2: money's he's not gonna make that. He's not gonna he's 439 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: making four and a half million this year at Miami. 440 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a pay cut when he comes to 441 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: the league. But like it was for sure absolutely Dylan 442 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 2: Gabriel probably too ground pick. 443 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, it was. 444 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Dylan got Oklahoma money, then he got Oregon money. 445 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 4: So just to put it out, I can give you 446 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: the exact numbers to give me one second here, and 447 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 4: good for him, right, good for Carson back? 448 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 7: Why not? 449 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 450 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 3: I think six years is ridiculous. But other than I 451 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: think it's fine. 452 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 8: Unless there has been some kind of medical. 453 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 4: Five why has he been able to do it? 454 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 7: Five? 455 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 4: Why has he been I. 456 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 8: Think he's still one of the COVID guys he's trying 457 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 8: to become a doctor to still one of the COVID guys. 458 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: I think he's still one of the players. There's only 459 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: a handful of them left like that. Diego Pavia was 460 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: trying to get a seventh year. Trinidan Chablis, the nca 461 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 2: already rejected. He wants trying to get a sixth NCAA 462 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: rejected that. 463 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 4: So there's still time to go to the real world, 464 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 4: all right. So Dylan Gabriel in his first year out 465 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 4: as a third round pick makes one point one million. 466 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 3: She's got to live on a budget from what he 467 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 3: was getting at Oregon. 468 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 4: Schador makes nine fifty one in this first year. 469 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so they all of a sudden, you're making 470 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: a third or a fourth of the money you were making. 471 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 2: Got to change your lifestyle a little bit when you 472 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 2: come to the league. 473 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 4: So for those guys who get that it's real. Is 474 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 4: that a lump sum payment. 475 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: It's all different depending on where it comes from. And 476 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 3: some of it's nil. 477 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: Some of it's that revenue share nonsense that they're trying 478 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: to do, so like it's it comes from a very 479 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 2: bunch of different ways. Some of its appearance stuff. Some 480 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: people actually try to do nal like they tie it 481 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 2: to a charity or something like that. Some people don't care. 482 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: They just run him a check. I'm guessing it's most 483 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: of the time it's lump sum. Okay, it's not payroll, right, 484 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 2: so it's probably a lump sum, like you get this 485 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: money and that's it, and then you have to perform 486 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: to it. There's usually they're trying to do, like contrast 487 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: where there's like performance barriers that you have to hit. 488 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: You know, you have to be on the team, got 489 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 2: to be healthy before you get this part of it. 490 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 3: Installments. 491 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: But if there's no rule to any of it, so 492 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: it's you know, kind of is what it is. But 493 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: it's definitely for a lot of these cats, it's gonna 494 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 2: be I gotta feel bad for the Trinita. I don't 495 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: feel bad, I mean, but Trinidad Shambliss probably didn't get 496 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: paid at ole Miss much this year. He was brought 497 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 2: in as the fourth quarterback. Yep, he wasn't brought in 498 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: to be the starter. If he had returned to ole 499 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: Miss next year, he's probably talking about four and a 500 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: half million a year. He's never gonna make that in 501 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: the league because of his size, Like he's not gonna happen. 502 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: So he's not a pro prospect in that sense, so 503 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 2: like that's his one shot at a paycheck. 504 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 3: It just came too late for him. 505 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 7: Yep. 506 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: But life's not fair like sometimes it doesn't all work 507 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: out that way. So it was a great game. And 508 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: despite all the mess that is college football, the games 509 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: on the field have been great. They've been widely watched. 510 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 2: The Montana State Illinois State one double A national final 511 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: game did three million? 512 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 3: Wow? One double a football? Three million people and that's massive. 513 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 3: Yeah number for one double a football. 514 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 8: What did the NBA do on Christmas? Because they were 515 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 8: touting that and I don't think that they hit more 516 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 8: than like five million, like watching on TV. 517 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 4: By the way, g Man just sent this to me. 518 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 4: The Baltimore Ravens have just tweeted out that they have 519 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 4: completed their interview with Kevin Stefanski for their head coaching position. 520 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 4: Really I miss that, g Men. Yes, it's real. Yeah, 521 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 4: there it is. We've completed an interview with Kevin's fancy 522 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 4: for our head coach position, Baltimore Ravens. 523 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 8: Hmmm. 524 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 4: That surprise me again again? 525 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, no it doesn't. I'm just trying to find it. 526 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: Who has it? 527 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 4: It's from the Ravens account. 528 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: I'm getting so tired of this whatever's going on with 529 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: X or Twitter right now where it just doesn't come 530 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: chronologically for me. Yeah, it's really driving me nuts. My 531 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: most recent ones are from like forty three. 532 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 4: Even on the following for to you bounces around, but 533 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 4: following should be I think it should be pretty like 534 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 4: I just. 535 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: I just did following just redid it. The first tweet 536 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 2: I have is one from twenty one minutes ago, followed 537 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: by one from two hours ago. 538 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 8: Huh perfect, nothing has happened in that time right, like 539 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 8: what is going on to have lunch? And nothing happened 540 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 8: while we were there. Yeah, it's like all from an 541 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 8: hour ago the space time continuum. 542 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 4: So if other Ravens have entered Jeff's Reebek says, Stefanski 543 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 4: is the fourth Ravens interview, following Vance, Joseph Davis Webb 544 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 4: and Clint Kubiak straight back, call me back, now, do 545 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 4: we know any it was a plea from Gibbet. Misters Rebek, 546 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 4: do we know if what GROSSI said earlier today about 547 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 4: John Harbaugh is that like verified, where did he come 548 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 4: up with the requirements. 549 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 8: That I don't know the answer, he said. I think 550 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 8: I believe It was from an NFL senior insider who he. 551 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: Had talked to, said that it was twenty million, ten 552 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 2: million staff total authority over the roster, would like to 553 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 2: select his own GM. I'm sure, Jero, I mean that 554 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,479 Speaker 2: that's believable to me. 555 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 4: Ask for all that. 556 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 3: I can bring it up here in a second, I 557 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 3: can bring that up. 558 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 8: By the way, Christmas Day, NBA. This is how they 559 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 8: spin it. Over forty seven million people tune in for 560 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 8: at least some of the five game slate. That's an 561 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 8: average of five point twenty five million. So you're saying 562 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 8: three million watched basically a one double a football championship game, 563 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 8: five million watched pera. 564 00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: On per average per five million. 565 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 8: Again, yeah, that's pretty crazy. 566 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how far that's well, that's football. 567 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, all right, got you guys. This is from RBS 568 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 9: earlier today with GROSSI thanks, Buddy. 569 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 5: I talked to a league insider who speculates on what 570 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 5: he's heard about Harbaugh's prerequisites to even be interested in 571 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 5: your job. Twenty million a year not a problem, ten 572 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 5: million dollar assistant coach budget not a problem, total authority 573 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 5: over the roster, and also would like to select his 574 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 5: own guy to lean on personnel guy. 575 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 3: Okay, so would he be making the draft picks? Does 576 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 3: he want more say over the roster than what he 577 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: had in Baltimore. 578 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 5: Yes, which would be a total change in this structure here. 579 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 5: I think there are four definite candidates for Harbor to 580 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 5: end up with Cleveland. Now is I think fourth Miami 581 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 5: Giants in Atlanta, Atlanta. 582 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 2: So it's a senior, a senior NFL insider who speculating 583 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 2: wants is what they went with their So yeah, I 584 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: mean I to me, that matches up. 585 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 4: I'm sure that is to me, Harbor is gonna go 586 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 4: where Harbaugh wants to go. I am under the assumption 587 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 4: that he would be the top choice of every opening. 588 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 2: Yes, he's the game changer in the whole thing. And 589 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: that's why I said earlier in the week, like to me, 590 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 2: jobs that aren't even open if you have a guy 591 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: you're kind of on the fence with. You mentioned Dallas, 592 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: I mentioned Washington, Like those are two that like before 593 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 2: when we first had the conversation, you mentioned Miami. Yeah, 594 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: and then Mike McDaniel was fired the next day, So like, yeah, 595 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's the one that it all 596 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: wants and he's probably the first domino to fall too. 597 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 2: For some I would he's probably like some things are 598 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 2: probably out of it. Like I don't think he would 599 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: ever unless he just wants to live in Arizona. Like 600 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: that doesn't seem like a fit at all. He want 601 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: to take all that on. Yeah, and maybe then then 602 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: then you could move quicker. But it would seem like 603 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: he would be the apple of everybody's eye. 604 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: Yes, so you they said, a couple of people have 605 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: reached out here and said that you are able to 606 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 4: on following click whether you want it to be popular 607 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 4: or recent. 608 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I have it unpopular. 609 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 4: And if you go on recent then it will that'll 610 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 4: be what you want. 611 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 3: Okay, now we're a good job. 612 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 4: Good job. 613 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 3: I kept going like this is not a fit. I 614 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 3: need this thing to be efficient. 615 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 4: Kyle and Allen, thank you. Kyle Gratz of course, great 616 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 4: fan of the friend of the pro. 617 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 3: Great job out of you. 618 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 4: Thank you, very nice. 619 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: Buck. 620 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: Guys had a bunch of Kate McDonald declared today a 621 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 2: couple of more popping in here this week. Rvil Reese, 622 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: Cleveland Glenville linebacker probably play. I would say, I think 623 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: it'd be perfect, like as a three four defensive end. 624 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: I mean sorry, a three to four outside linebacker, and 625 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: then Carneal Tait obviously this week as well, g Man 626 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: or Gibbe or the triumphant with Doctor J. Want to 627 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: know which Bucky will end up being drafted first, enable Rvel. 628 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 3: Reese or Carneal Tait. 629 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 4: I think Greece. 630 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: The only thing I don't know about Rvel Arvel struggled 631 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: like the last month, struggled relative. Yeah, I mean he 632 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: shot out of a cannon for the first two thirds 633 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: of the season and he kind of fell off a 634 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: little bit. 635 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: I mean, he it Carnell. 636 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 2: It's gonna be between Carnell and the kid from Arizona 637 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: State as your first receiver off the board, so it Yeah, 638 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: I think it's in I think it's certainly in play. 639 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh my gosh, I don't know. Did you know 640 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 3: about Bill Livingston. 641 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 8: It just happened about forty five minutes ago I. 642 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: Saw Oh my gosh. 643 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 8: We were just talking about him the other day. 644 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 3: We talked about him the other day. 645 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 8: Yeah. 646 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 2: I used to see him all the time on the 647 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 2: Ohio State beat because he would go to all the 648 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: bowl games. 649 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 3: And cover him. 650 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: Love tupes Bill Livingston, longtime Cleveland dot Com columnist has passed. Wow, 651 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: at the age of seventy seven. 652 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 8: Said it has passed away suddenly, So I don't. 653 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: Know, unexpectedly today. 654 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 8: Wow, that's what I was like today. 655 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 3: Thirty four years at the PD nominated twice for a pulitzer. 656 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, how about that. 657 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: Man? 658 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah. I got to know him a little 659 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 2: bit on the Ohio State thing. I would se him 660 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: quite a bit, he would. He did a lot of 661 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 2: Buckeye Bowl games through the years. So thoughts and prayer 662 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 2: certainly to the family, and rest in peace to a 663 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: local media legend for sure. Those are your hot topics today, 664 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: presented by University Hospital, official healthcare partner of your Cleveland Browns. 665 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 3: Schedore at the Podium. 666 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: Coming up next, listen to Cleveland Rounds Daily presented by 667 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 2: ballet Bet, official sportsmanning partner Cleveland Browns. 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It's 677 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: presented by Vivid Seats pers your official fan experience package 678 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: today for the ultimate game Day. Here's your quarterback shot 679 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: were Sanders. 680 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 5: We know what you said yesterday after that game of 681 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 5: captain and how much you've learned from mine for her, 682 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 5: the understanding each other. 683 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 3: What's your reaction to the news you have he's going 684 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 3: along in the trade. 685 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 10: We just found out a couple of seconds ago. It's 686 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 10: this over autumn mentality, like things gonna happen. That's just 687 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 10: how the league is and moving forward, just focus on 688 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 10: you know what we can improve, you know, individually for 689 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 10: the next head coach. Do you think you did enough 690 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 10: to show everybody or I guess show Andrew Barry that 691 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 10: you should be the start heading into twenty twenty seconds, 692 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 10: I think I think I did what I was able 693 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 10: to do. And uh, I definitely grew from a lot 694 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 10: of things and I got experienced now so I'm always 695 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 10: the same like confidence while I'm there, but like that's 696 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 10: not that's not in my hands, Like, that's not my decisions. 697 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 10: I can't speak of what other people feel. So what 698 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 10: are you what. 699 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 8: Season looks like to you, how we're gonna spend it? 700 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 11: And is it kind of weird like this. 701 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 8: Might be the first time going. 702 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 3: To Austin not uliting your head coaching all for. 703 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 4: Outside last season? 704 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, well this year been in the first year with 705 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 10: a different head coach and pop you know, So so 706 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 10: that was that was the adjustment off rip and and 707 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 10: it was and it was cool, straight like building building 708 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 10: different relationships, like in different circumstances situations, which is always 709 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 10: good to uh have those life goals and have those 710 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 10: life lefs lessons around uh, just to have him on 711 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 10: building blocks so then you're prepared in any situation. So 712 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 10: that's what this last year, you know, pretty much been 713 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 10: what are. 714 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 8: Your plans and for the off season to get better as. 715 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 10: Yeah, of course, first and foremost, I gotta go see Shallow, 716 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 10: go hang out with him for a bit. I heard 717 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 10: you gots some Christmas gifts for me, So I'll go 718 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 10: see about that probably tomorrow or something. Then after that, 719 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 10: really just be with the family, be with the family, 720 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 10: then get back to work. And connect them with the 721 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 10: guys earlier, connect them with just just overall just getting 722 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 10: better looking at everything that happened this year will transpire 723 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 10: and going into next year with a fresh mind. 724 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 6: You know, you talked a few weeks about wanting to 725 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 6: find more wins that you felt like the wins are 726 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 6: the things in the teams. So just like how important 727 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 6: is it for you to end the season. 728 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 8: Have you won these last two games? 729 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 10: I feel like the way we end the season was 730 00:33:59,680 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 10: was cool. 731 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 8: I think it was cool. 732 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 10: I think uh overall, like as a as a quarterback, 733 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 10: I showed different pieces in different games, you know, to 734 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 10: all add up to one complete quarterback. And that's why 735 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 10: I think get to you know in those situations, RedZone situations, field, 736 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 10: those situations, they're down situations, Uh where you at on 737 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 10: the field situation. So it was a lot of situations 738 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 10: that was good. I feel like this this was a 739 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 10: good learning year for me, and I'm excited for it because, 740 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 10: like I say, like moving forward, I'll be prepared, you know, 741 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 10: I'll have actual realistic reps verse players and there's other 742 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 10: players on other teams and everything. So I'm excited for 743 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 10: this offseason, like knowing what I'm knowing and understand what 744 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 10: to expect and what I'm gonna get. 745 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 12: What that said, what does your off season need to 746 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 12: look like for you to feel like you've had You've 747 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 12: come into this next year. 748 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 10: With a that platform like it always been. Yeah, the work, 749 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 10: the work, the work always be the same, you know. 750 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 10: So that that's one thing. That's one thing us like 751 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 10: as a family has ain't as just being a Sanders 752 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 10: like that's that's what work is an and we always 753 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 10: continue to do it. So just uh working, but no, no, 754 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 10: know what you're working towards and and know the opponent 755 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 10: who inform the players? 756 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 8: Then just happened here? 757 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 4: He said? You just following out. 758 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 3: Communits for real? 759 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 4: Out. 760 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 10: I think social media informed the players first. So I 761 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 10: think that's alright. Now this is getting sticky business here. 762 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 8: R sh sure. 763 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 2: Obviously you going to be here just one year so 764 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: far players, as this team goes into a coaching searches, 765 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 2: what do you think the next the next leader of 766 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 2: this team to sort of on. 767 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 10: Right Toosh, I could just focus on me, I guess, 768 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 10: just focus on what I could do and getting better 769 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 10: and the the players and the teammates that we got 770 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 10: when it comes to those growing up this decisions, that's 771 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 10: not that's not me. 772 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 4: Sure you worked so hard with no must Tommy Breeze. 773 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 7: And Kevin we saw you get better every single week. 774 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 2: You know, what did all. 775 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 11: Of those guys mean to. 776 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 2: Your growth and your development since today you first saw 777 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:21,959 Speaker 2: you show up. 778 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 7: Here and uh, you know, would it help. 779 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 12: Has maybe Tommy, Bill can. 780 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 8: Still be in volunte going forwards. 781 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 10: See now you try to give me a sticky business. 782 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 10: I can't. I can't make decisions on the coach and 783 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 10: who's coming who's not. 784 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, just how important was it to your development? 785 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 6: Bill and Tommy and Kevin bar all did to help you. 786 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 10: But it's those coaches and also it's other coaches also, 787 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 10: you know that all pourtant to me and uh that 788 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 10: helped me throughout everything. 789 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 8: So definitely. 790 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 10: It takes a village to take a village to to 791 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 10: to grow someone and help you in places that you 792 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 10: need help with, you know, and just talking in perspectives 793 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 10: being humans with each other, you know, so they take 794 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 10: a village to raise one and. 795 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 9: Makes you getting more, you know, more reps against other 796 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 9: teams and. 797 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 4: Having a whole long season. 798 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 9: And that does that mean that the franchise kind of 799 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 9: came to you and so they want you and their 800 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 9: franchise quarterback for them. 801 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 10: Nah, it just went off simple facts of from last 802 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 10: year to this year, like not playing in the league 803 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 10: and this year playing in the league, knowing what you like, 804 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 10: what you don't like, knowing what you do good, which 805 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 10: you don't do good, and just knowing the strengths and weaknesses, 806 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 10: and trying to and knowing how people game plan. Also 807 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 10: knowing how teams will attack or take things away. So 808 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 10: it's a whole deep dive that you have to dive 809 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 10: into when it comes to this offseason. And mentally like 810 00:37:55,239 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 10: getting there and preparing everybody, whether it's the connection with 811 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 10: the receivers and everybody that to have that type of feeling, 812 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 10: to have that factor, to have those moments to where 813 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 10: it could be risky plays, but it's always going to 814 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 10: fall in our direction. So it takes a lot of 815 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 10: relationships and that's what I'm happy this offseason I'll be 816 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 10: able to build with those guys and whoever is coming 817 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 10: to the program. 818 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 3: All right, there you go. 819 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 2: Coming up next, we'll go around the league, including an 820 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 2: update if you missed it from Baltimore on a Coaching 821 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: Higher interview that took place over there. 822 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 3: Today. 823 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 2: We also have a wild Card Week edition of the 824 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 2: Overs and the Unders is Gibe attempts to claw back 825 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 2: into contention. 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That's kind of crazy, like 842 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 2: they just comes out of like you don't know that 843 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 2: he's interview over there, nothing though that one's happening, and 844 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 2: all of a sudden they put up on their social 845 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 2: media we've conduct we've finished conducting ay with Kevin. 846 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 3: Sefanski at the head coaching job at the Baltimore Ravens. 847 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,959 Speaker 4: Does anybody out there have there is there a place 848 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 4: because I looked at one and I was I googled it, 849 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 4: so maybe there's a better one than what I was 850 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 4: able to find quickly where there is a coaching tracker 851 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 4: where it's very it's actually pretty good like the one 852 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 4: that I just looked at. It didn't even have to 853 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 4: fancy with the Ravens. And that's like been announced officially, 854 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 4: so that that disqualified like. 855 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 3: Who's interviewed where? 856 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, or who's where? And I'd like it to be 857 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 4: the way that I'd like it to be presented is 858 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,760 Speaker 4: as such, this would be the list of the rules 859 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 4: candidates here name, and then here's every opening the logo 860 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 4: of the team here, and then you get like for 861 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 4: everyone that they've you know, check for who they've interviewed, 862 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 4: and you can look at it. Then one graph like 863 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 4: that that would be very fun for me. So if 864 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 4: anybody has that out there on X send it to me. 865 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:44,280 Speaker 3: Please. 866 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 4: Where's the one on CBS this website you click on it? 867 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 2: I can't do a website you like the CBS website. 868 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 2: That's an old one for you. I know that. 869 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 8: You know why because they always have a list every day. 870 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 4: There lists. 871 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 8: That's material on the right side, right side, it's in red. 872 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 3: It's always there. 873 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 8: It is thet We. 874 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 3: Can have some fun with that. That's the problem with 875 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 3: The problem I have with it is the path. 876 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 4: Like I said, all this is all. This is terrible. 877 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 4: This is not the way that I want my information 878 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 4: was next, Sorry anyone else, This is all scrolling. I 879 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,879 Speaker 4: have no idea what I'm looking at here is outrageous. 880 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 4: You got tomatoes being cut at the same time on 881 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 4: the right side of my screen. All the pads are 882 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 4: crazy information. Please, all right, you guys are ready for 883 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 4: some overs and unders. I am because this is basically 884 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 4: called the game of the gir dominance. 885 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 2: So last week you both mirrored. You both went four 886 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: and three perfect, So give me's back on the on 887 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 2: the right side of things. After a couple of down weeks. 888 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 2: You actually only had two differences, and you split the differences. 889 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 2: Other than that, the total, the total has been a 890 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 2: the Bach the total, and then all Browns receivers over 891 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 2: under Jamar Chase you correctly went under, give went over, 892 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 2: which Marches did win with ninety three Yar's ninety three 893 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 2: weapons weapons weapons, that's. 894 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 3: Right, that's right, all right. 895 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 2: So this is your playoff edition when you get wild 896 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 2: and wacky with this. We have seven of them. You're both, 897 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 2: that's right, all right. Uh, let's start HEREZ Gurry is 898 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 2: still the leaders, so we're going to start with you. 899 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 2: Drake May completion percentage seventy three point five. Okay, Drake 900 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 2: may completion percentage seventy three. Drake may completion percentage yep. 901 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 2: New England Chargers yep. New England against the charge. That's right, 902 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 2: Super Chargers. 903 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 4: Chargers were one of the tougher teams for quarterbacks this year. 904 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 4: In fact, quarterbacks against the Chargers eighteen for thirty, so 905 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 4: a sixty percent completion rate allowed under seventy three point five. 906 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 3: Sure kibbe seventy three. 907 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 8: I think he's at home. He's at home. Sunday Night football. 908 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 8: It is weird things happen in Foxborough over. 909 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 4: I'm in fact, I hope it happens for him and Gibbet. 910 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 4: I hope, I really I believe it. I mean it. 911 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 4: I hope it happens. Three would be a wonderful thing. 912 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 4: I don't think anybody has done it against them this year, 913 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 4: except there's one time Gino Smith won eighteen to twenty 914 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 4: three against him. That's it is that in week one. 915 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 8: That was in week thirteen, because I was to say, 916 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 8: when was the last time Genos next over thunder? 917 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna go to the Rams game against 918 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers. At one time Carolina Panthers Wide Receiving Corps. 919 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 2: These are these first two are g Man Specials, Carolina 920 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 2: Wide Receiving Corps over under, Puka Nakua all receivers for Carolina, 921 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 2: Gibbet or Puka Nakua. 922 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 4: By the way, and I am just so we're all 923 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 4: on the same patriocau. I think it's fun to reiterate 924 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 4: these types of things. 925 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 8: Already, screw, I don't even know who's on there. 926 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 4: So I'm up eight on him. 927 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 2: You are, yeah, okay, fifty seven and forty four to 928 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,919 Speaker 2: forty nine and fifty two fantastic, yep. 929 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 8: I will take the Carolina Panthers wide receiver corpses. 930 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 2: An over forgivee Carolina receivers or poka nakua, Doc di ze. 931 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:38,720 Speaker 4: Going against your guy Carolina receivers over next over under 932 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 4: the mate Adams is going to be back. 933 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 2: Total yards passed for, Doc to z this one to you. 934 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 2: Total yards pass for. You can have the NFC quarterbacks 935 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 2: or the AFC quarterbacks total yards passing AFC or NFC. 936 00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 4: All right, so pretty Stafford Efford, Caleb Love, Caleb Young 937 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 4: versus Stroud, Rogers. 938 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 2: Rogers, Nicks, May May Herbert and Josh. 939 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,280 Speaker 3: Lawrence and Josh Allen. 940 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 4: No, no bon Nicks. 941 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 3: Sorry, but oh yeah, sixty six. 942 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 4: Wow, it's this is a good one. You came up 943 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 4: with this one. 944 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 3: I sure did. Yeah, glad, you're surprised every. 945 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 4: Once in a while. I'm not surprised. I'm saying this 946 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 4: is good. 947 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 8: I can give you my answer while he go ahead, 948 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 8: watches you. 949 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 3: Look went over. 950 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,320 Speaker 8: Next you like, make a call stop looking. 951 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 2: For you. You can have the total points scored. Total 952 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 2: points scored in the Saturday Monday games or the Sunday games. 953 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,720 Speaker 2: So you can have the Saturday games and the Monday 954 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 2: game total points scored or all the Sunday games. 955 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 3: Ye, Saturday, Monday. 956 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 8: We're going Sunday games, all right, Son. 957 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 4: Under same, next over thunder. 958 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 3: Zigura for you. 959 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford quarterback rating over under, Drake May quarterback rating. 960 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:36,879 Speaker 4: Who does England play again? 961 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 3: They play the Chargers? 962 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 4: Stafford over. He's gonna make he had the bad game 963 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 4: there last time. He's gonna have it. He's gonna have it. 964 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 4: Kills me. Yes, I'll go Stafford as well. Dude, you 965 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 4: don't get you don't get it, you don't get the game, 966 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 4: give it. You gotta go opposite me. I don't have 967 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 4: to go opposite when if you want to win, you 968 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 4: have to go opposite. 969 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 8: Okay, I want to go what comes what I feel naturally? 970 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 3: All right, okay, all right, next. 971 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 4: The very good. I don't sit here and study it. 972 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 4: I did, I know, but the fact is you're down. 973 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:08,760 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. 974 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:09,839 Speaker 9: I saw what you were doing. 975 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,399 Speaker 4: I'm trying to help him out. He jumps in front 976 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 4: of me to give me an answer that I can. 977 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 4: I get tired of waiting. 978 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 8: It's gonna be five o'clock and we're still gonna be 979 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 8: looking at the. 980 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 4: About Luke Skywalker at one point said this boy, he 981 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 4: has no patience. 982 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 3: All right, give you this one's for you. 983 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 2: McCaffrey total yards over under, Saquon total yards same. 984 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 4: See how quickly I did that? 985 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 3: You please that. 986 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 4: Your first hear anything? 987 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 2: I can't Rams Sacks over under, Texans, sacks Rams versus Bryce, 988 00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 2: Texans versus Aaron Rams. In half of a second, I 989 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 2: go round it. So give a best case scenario. You 990 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:04,760 Speaker 2: make up one point? 991 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 8: Fine, every little bit helps. 992 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 3: There's not enough time. There's only three weeks left. 993 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 8: Oh, there's Divisional, there's championship, super Bowl, maybe a Pro Bowl. 994 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 4: Three weeks, three weeks, one game week throws. 995 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 2: You're gonna lose by four. Still, Ben babies up. 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We kick 1004 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 2: it off headed out on that Twisted Tea hotline, official 1005 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 2: sponsor of your Cleveland Browns, Keep it Twisted, Cleveland. He's 1006 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 2: one of the best in the business. He is ESPN 1007 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 2: NFL Nation Bengals reporter Ben Baby. He joins us there. Well, Buddy, 1008 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 2: you and I spoke earlier this week, and one of 1009 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 2: the one of the things we discussed was the fact 1010 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 2: that Duke Tobin was going to have an availability down 1011 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 2: there today. Did it live up to everything that that 1012 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 2: you guys? Did you get everything you wanted. 1013 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 4: Out of that? 1014 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 12: You know, Bo, It's funny, for whatever reason, I do 1015 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 12: more radio in Columbus and Cleveland than I do in Cincinnati. 1016 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 12: Please help me make sense of that when whenever you 1017 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 12: get a chance. 1018 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 4: Well, we respect you off here. 1019 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 12: Bet, I appreciate that. That means a lot to me. 1020 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 12: You know, Duke did talk for over an hour, which 1021 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 12: was I think they you know, they eventually had to 1022 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 12: wrap it up, but you know, I think it was 1023 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 12: very clear. I think, you know in the way that 1024 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 12: this was presented, this is very This is in my 1025 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 12: seven years on the beat, this is the first time 1026 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 12: Drouke Topin has ever held an end of season press conference. 1027 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 12: This close to the end of the regular season locally, 1028 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 12: and I think you could definitely got the sense that 1029 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 12: he wanted to let fans know that he in the 1030 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 12: front office. Here the criticism from the fan base, you know, 1031 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 12: there was a billboard that was put up that saying 1032 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 12: to get rid of him and zat Taylor. At normally 1033 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,919 Speaker 12: took has escaped that kind of criticism over the years, 1034 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,360 Speaker 12: but as they've missed the playoffs the last three years, 1035 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 12: you know, he had to answer for a lot of 1036 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 12: the things that went wrong. I to be honest, I 1037 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 12: don't think there are a lot of specific skipping on 1038 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 12: what they could have done better as a front office 1039 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,799 Speaker 12: and he could have done better as the director player 1040 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 12: personnel to get them in a better situation. But you know, 1041 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 12: I think everyone understands how important this off season is 1042 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 12: going to be if the Bengals want to be competitive again. 1043 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,959 Speaker 4: When you looked at kind of that team and even 1044 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,880 Speaker 4: the way that the final game of the year, I 1045 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 4: guess in some ways a microcosm of it, But you know, 1046 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 4: it's a team that you'd feel like if had Joe 1047 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 4: Burrow been there all year, they probably are making noise 1048 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 4: and probably playing right now. But it was the defense 1049 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 4: that failed them in those games when Joe Flacco played, 1050 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 4: So well, what do you kind of look at in 1051 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 4: knowing that John Harbaugh's out in Baltimore? The Browns are 1052 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 4: looking for a coach right now, the Steelers potentially, if 1053 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 4: we're to believe rumor, could be looking for not only 1054 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 4: a head coach but a quarterback next year. You know, 1055 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 4: where do you what do you make sense of where 1056 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 4: the Bengals are in this division headed into the next 1057 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 4: season and what do they have to do to be 1058 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,359 Speaker 4: the team that I think every year? But he's like, oh, 1059 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,800 Speaker 4: the Bengals. You know, ever since they've gone to the 1060 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 4: Super Bowl, the Bengals are a team to watch in 1061 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,720 Speaker 4: the AFC, but it just hasn't manifested itself. 1062 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, it's interesting how much that that run 1063 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 12: in twenty one and twenty two has really kind of 1064 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 12: tinted how things have looked. I think you heard it 1065 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 12: even today, Duke Tobin talking about how great that the 1066 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 12: twenty one draft free agency class was, how they've hit 1067 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 12: on good players and I mean to we followed up with, well, 1068 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,879 Speaker 12: what's kinda happened over the last three years? And he said, 1069 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 12: you know, year over year. You can't build in free agency, 1070 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 12: and I think sometimes you get the sense that they 1071 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,319 Speaker 12: look a little bit too far back at times that 1072 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,800 Speaker 12: what made them successful. I understand that gives them a 1073 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,359 Speaker 12: lot of confidence that they can do it again, but 1074 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 12: over the last few years they just have yet to 1075 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 12: prove that. And when you like, like you said, the 1076 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 12: division should be pretty wide open. There's a lot of 1077 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 12: question marks across the board. But ultimately this team, they 1078 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 12: have to get better, especially defensively. And another point that 1079 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 12: I felt like we needed to push back on a 1080 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 12: touch was kind of what you said, and that you know, 1081 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 12: you know, if Joe Burrow had been healthy that the 1082 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 12: Bengals probably could have made noise. And I think that 1083 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 12: is true when they if they played up to their 1084 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:36,280 Speaker 12: potential with Joe playing well, they easily could and should 1085 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 12: be a playoff team. However, you know I made the 1086 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 12: point I said, Duke, you know there are other teams 1087 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 12: who have lost their quarterbacks and still found ways to 1088 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 12: make it into the postseason. And I think when you 1089 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,840 Speaker 12: look at the totality of the roster, there just aren't 1090 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 12: enough good pieces around Joe Burrow and Jamoar Chase to 1091 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 12: really get this to be a playoff team, because let's 1092 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 12: be honest, there are thirty two teams in the NFL. 1093 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 12: Almost half of them make the playoff. So you should 1094 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 12: be able to, in some way, shape or form, be 1095 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 12: good enough to be in the top half of your league. 1096 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 1097 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 2: And that so, just so I understand this is does 1098 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 2: Zach report to Duke or do they both report independently 1099 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 2: to ownership? 1100 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 12: I think they both in the direct u you know, 1101 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 12: they report directly to ownership. You know, Duke made that 1102 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 12: point that ultimately it is Mike Brown's team. But the 1103 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 12: thing is is that you know, executive vice president Katie 1104 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 12: Blackburn technically runs much of the day to day and 1105 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 12: that's Mike Brown's daughter, and she's the one that goes 1106 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 12: in and negotiates many of the big contracts. When Joe 1107 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 12: Burrow signs the deal, when Jamar Chase signs his dealt Higgins, 1108 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 12: Katie's the one who executes those deals. She's the chief 1109 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 12: negotiator in those situations. And then Duke hinted at it today, 1110 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 12: and I guess he didn't hint at it. He said 1111 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,360 Speaker 12: it out right and that they have many different people 1112 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 12: who will negotiate different deals based on their level essentially 1113 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,080 Speaker 12: and be the one who deals with agents and play. 1114 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 12: And I think that just when you talk to people 1115 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,919 Speaker 12: around the league, they often say it is a very 1116 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,319 Speaker 12: unique setup. I'm not sure if they mean that in 1117 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 12: a good way or a bad way, but they note 1118 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 12: that it is unique. And you know, I think that's 1119 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 12: part of how it is in Cincinnati, and that everybody's collaborative, 1120 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 12: but it's it's not always clear as so who gets 1121 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,320 Speaker 12: the final say or quite frankly, who's kind of building 1122 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 12: the vision on what this should look like. 1123 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 4: Were you surprised given all the kind of turmoil in 1124 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 4: the league and the fact that as we sit here 1125 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,720 Speaker 4: right now on the phone with you, eight jobs are open. 1126 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 4: Are you surprised at the Bengals job is not an 1127 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:35,840 Speaker 4: open job? 1128 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,879 Speaker 12: No, I not necessarily. I think that they are very 1129 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 12: hesitant to make change unless it's warrant, unless they feel 1130 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,319 Speaker 12: like they absolutely have to. I think you point back 1131 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 12: and look at now long the Bengals, you know, let 1132 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,240 Speaker 12: Marvin Lewis continue to coach, and I think Marvin probably 1133 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 12: doesn't get enough credit for some of the things he 1134 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 12: had to work with over the years. When you look 1135 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,799 Speaker 12: at how the Bengals have changed as a franchise. They 1136 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,640 Speaker 12: obviously came a very a long way from where they 1137 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 12: were at the beginning of the century, but you know, 1138 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 12: at a certain point, you know there was a ceiling 1139 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 12: that they hit, and I think you could have made 1140 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,720 Speaker 12: the argument that they could have moved one from Marlart 1141 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 12: years earlier than they did. And with Zach Taylor, you know, 1142 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,080 Speaker 12: the Bengals want They have always insisted they like what 1143 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,359 Speaker 12: Zach brings to the table. I think the fact that 1144 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 12: Mike Brown put out the statement he did was a 1145 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,280 Speaker 12: sign that he understands that there's a lot of frustration. 1146 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,719 Speaker 12: But they still feel like not only Zach Taylor, but 1147 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 12: Duke Tobin can be the people to lead them back. 1148 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,879 Speaker 12: Whether that will happen remains to be seen. I think 1149 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,320 Speaker 12: there are still some issues and some specifics that Zach 1150 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 12: and Duke still need to speak to about why the 1151 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 12: season didn't go well. And I think it's much more 1152 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,400 Speaker 12: complex than Joe Burrow missing nine games. 1153 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,239 Speaker 2: Ben, you know that team better than anybody, You know 1154 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 2: that situation better than anybody. 1155 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,359 Speaker 3: You know where they are from a. 1156 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,959 Speaker 2: Cap, free agency draft, all of it. If you were 1157 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 2: in charge and you were Duke Tobin and Zach what 1158 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 2: would you do to fix this team to get it 1159 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 2: contending for next year, which is something clearly everybody down 1160 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 2: there wants and certainly Joe Burrow has been pretty vocal 1161 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 2: about here in the last couple of months. 1162 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think the big question you said it is 1163 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 12: that they wanted I think the bigger question that a 1164 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,799 Speaker 12: lot of fans have asked, and I think many people 1165 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 12: around the league have wondered, is just how bad do 1166 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,719 Speaker 12: they want it? And Duke Tobyn was asked point blank 1167 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 12: about what woul they structure contract differently? Would they give 1168 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,400 Speaker 12: players guaranteed money in the second year, something the Bengals 1169 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 12: have been very hesitant to do. Only recently for the 1170 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,439 Speaker 12: biggest of deals have they done that? And he said, 1171 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 12: you know, they're open to anything, but I think that 1172 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 12: I think that needs to be seen in action. I 1173 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 12: think when you look at how they've been risk averse 1174 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 12: over the years, and it's something I've asked Katie Blackburn 1175 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 12: about in the past, is that if they're willing to 1176 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,879 Speaker 12: be more to take on more risk and really push 1177 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,879 Speaker 12: the envelope in certain ways, that could be could hurt 1178 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 12: them in the long run. But it maximized their opportunity 1179 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 12: to win now, especially when you have a quarterback like 1180 00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 12: Joe Burrow playing the way he has when he's been 1181 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,280 Speaker 12: healthy the last couple of years. I think that remains 1182 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 12: the biggest question if they're willing to go out and 1183 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 12: be more aggressive in the way they structure deals, in 1184 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 12: the way that they attack free agency, maybe attack the 1185 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,879 Speaker 12: trade deadline, you know, inside the locker room, I think 1186 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 12: some guys were even surprised that some moves weren't made 1187 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 12: at the trade deadline in order to either make the 1188 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 12: team better or get draft picks to make the team 1189 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 12: better moving forward. So I think there's still many areas 1190 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 12: that this team in front office can continue to adapt 1191 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 12: and evolve in order to be more aggressive, and I 1192 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 12: think once that happens, you'll get a better sense of 1193 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 12: exactly how bad they want to go out and compete 1194 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 12: and win the Super Bowl. 1195 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 4: What was your reaction, Ben in what has been you know, 1196 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 4: if you were able to garner any idea about the 1197 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 4: reaction of the Bengals organization to the news that John Harbaugh, 1198 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 4: who has won one hundred and eighty regular season games 1199 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 4: in eighteen seasons with the Baltimore Ravens super Bowl champion 1200 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 4: is no longer the head coach of the Baltimore Ravens 1201 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 4: than is available. 1202 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's an interesting you know, I think not I 1203 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 12: would say it's surprising, but when you look at what 1204 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 12: Baltimore has done over the last couple of years, it 1205 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 12: makes sense why Baltimore decided to move on. I haven't 1206 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 12: heard anything personally about about any reaction from Cincinnati. To 1207 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 12: be honest, I think they've got their hands full currently 1208 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 12: with what's going on here. You've got you've got a 1209 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 12: very I mean, this is as mad as I've ever 1210 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 12: seen the fan base. You know, I've never seen like 1211 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 12: people were all weak sending us questions for this press conference. 1212 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 12: It's like this was the Super Bowl. I felt like, 1213 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 12: you know, if we didn't if we didn't perform, they're 1214 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 12: gonna want us up there to ask why we weren't 1215 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 12: asking enough tough questions. I mean, my mentions are a 1216 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 12: blood bath right now. And people like, I've never seen 1217 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 12: a seam not be so good or be so bad 1218 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 12: that they think we're bad at our jobs. I've never 1219 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 12: seen that before. It's incredible, and so I think the 1220 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 12: other happenings around the North are a little bit a 1221 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 12: little quieted inside Cincinnati because quite frankly, there's just so 1222 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 12: much discontentment. But you know, I think the fact that Cleveland, Baltimore, 1223 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,280 Speaker 12: excuse me, moved on from John Horblaugh given all the success, underscores, 1224 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 12: you know, how open things feel and the need for, 1225 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 12: you know, for things to be better. The AFC continues 1226 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 12: to get more and more crowded, and when you have 1227 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,960 Speaker 12: a quarterback like Omar Jackson, you want to make sure 1228 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 12: you capitalize on that. And I think Cincinnati, you know, 1229 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 12: understands the need to support their elite quarterback. And if 1230 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 12: that continues, if they don't continue to win with Burrow, 1231 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 12: you have to wonder how this will look like moving forward. 1232 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 2: Talking to Ben Baby ESPN, NFL Nation, Bengals report are 1233 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 2: the best in the business on that side of things. 1234 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 2: You're off at the offensive coordinator down there, Dan Pitcher 1235 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 2: interviewed for the head coaching job up here today. What 1236 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 2: can you tell us about Dan about what would make 1237 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 2: him an appealing coaching candidate? 1238 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, Duke Tobin actually was asked about this 1239 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,040 Speaker 12: in that hour long pressure and he praised how well 1240 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,280 Speaker 12: Pitch as we call him, has been organized he communicates 1241 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 12: really well, really intelligent as a former quarterback at the 1242 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 12: college level, started out with a scouting background in Indianapolis, 1243 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 12: was actually on Marvin Lewis's staff, and then was one 1244 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,479 Speaker 12: of the ones who has kept over and been under 1245 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 12: Zach Taylor, and he's been promoted over the years. The 1246 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 12: Bengals have tried like hell to keep him inside the 1247 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 12: building when he When Brian Callahan left to go to 1248 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 12: Tennessee to be the head coach, it was a no 1249 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 12: brainer for Pitch to be the offensive coordinator. It's a 1250 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 12: guy that people have praised over the years. Different players 1251 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 12: as they've come in and out have really thought highly 1252 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 12: of Dan and kind of what he brings to the table. 1253 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 12: I think in dealing with him from a media standpoint, 1254 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 12: you know, I think he does a really good job 1255 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 12: of being blunt and assessing where things can get better 1256 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,920 Speaker 12: and what things are going well, and just having a 1257 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 12: realistic sense of what it takes for a team to improve. 1258 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,600 Speaker 12: I think sometimes people become jaded and a little bit 1259 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 12: disillusioned on what isn't working. You know, That's something we've 1260 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 12: never got a sense of from Pitcher and dealing with 1261 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 12: him over the years. So I think, you know, those 1262 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 12: who deal with them on a day to day basis 1263 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 12: have understood that. You know, it feels like only a 1264 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 12: matter of time before he gets those opportunities and gets 1265 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 12: the interviews like he got in Cleveld. I think the 1266 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 12: big question is going to be if you're Cleveland or 1267 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,240 Speaker 12: somebody else, you know, what the fan reaction might be 1268 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 12: for a team that really has not done as well 1269 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 12: as they should have over the last few seasons. 1270 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 4: How would you describe him as you know, we kind 1271 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 4: of been talking through in our process, and you know 1272 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 4: that they are the coaches that are kind of the 1273 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 4: culture tornadoes. There are coaches that are you know, really 1274 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 4: scheme guys, and that's how they get their head coaching job. 1275 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 4: And then they're the guys that are the best coaches 1276 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 4: in the league. The Kyle's, the mcveigh's, the Andy Reid's, 1277 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 4: Sean Payton. You know, maybe Sirianni's in that boat. I 1278 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 4: don't know he's a super Bowl champion, but that have 1279 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 4: it all right, that are forces of culture and leadership 1280 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,840 Speaker 4: and then also have that scheme. Uh what do you 1281 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 4: what sense you have of dan Is from a culture 1282 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 4: leader standpoint, and how he could run an organization. 1283 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, to be honest, I think that's a 1284 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 12: big X factor. And because so much, so much of 1285 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 12: this is shaped in the way that Zach Taylor wants, 1286 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,920 Speaker 12: you know, the team and the culture to look, it's 1287 01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 12: hard to get a sense of what exactly Pitch had 1288 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,000 Speaker 12: the role he plays and crafting anything that's unique to 1289 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 12: him personally. But again, when you talk to guys, they 1290 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 12: all really love playing for Dan. They like kind of 1291 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 12: how involved he's been over the years, and in Dach 1292 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 12: Taylor being the play caller, I think that always makes 1293 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 12: it tough for an offensive coordinator show exactly what they do. 1294 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,120 Speaker 12: But but you know the way that Taylor has structured 1295 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,640 Speaker 12: his staff over the years. You know, the offensive coaches 1296 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 12: and assistants all have a very unique part of the 1297 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 12: offense that they're responsible for with the third down, red zone, 1298 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,920 Speaker 12: first and second down, and there are things that you 1299 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,600 Speaker 12: can tangibly look and point to, and with Pitch being, 1300 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 12: you know, someone with such a key role in being 1301 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,720 Speaker 12: the overall architect of what the offense looks like. If 1302 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,960 Speaker 12: you look at what the Bengals have done offensively that's 1303 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,400 Speaker 12: been successful, you have to attribute a large trunk of 1304 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 12: that to Dan and kind of what he's done and 1305 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 12: what he's built even with Zach Callen plays. But in 1306 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,920 Speaker 12: terms of culture, I think that's a really good question, 1307 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 12: and that's something that really you can only find out 1308 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 12: once you get a guy in the building, which is 1309 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 12: why some guys succeed and why some just do not 1310 01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 12: seem to pan out. 1311 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 2: You're the best, buddy, Thanks your time as always, greatly 1312 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 2: appreciate you. 1313 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 12: Hey, anything for our friends in Cleveland. Thank you all 1314 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:05,360 Speaker 12: for having us there. 1315 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 2: He goes been baby ESPN NFL Nation Bengals reporter joining 1316 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,440 Speaker 2: us on the Twisted T hard iced tea hotline. Twisted 1317 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 2: T official sponsor for your Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted, Cleveland. 1318 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 2: We're gonna do a fantasy draft here, huh, little playoff draft. 1319 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:17,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna get it done. 1320 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,080 Speaker 4: I hope it goes as well as some of our drafts. 1321 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,560 Speaker 2: Draft of God, we'll do that coming up next. You 1322 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,640 Speaker 2: listen to CBD on eight fifty esp of Cleveland. 1323 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,440 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Browns Danley on eight fifty ESPN 1324 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,320 Speaker 1: Cleveland presented by bally Bet sports Book, an official sports 1325 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 1: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. 1326 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,400 Speaker 7: Please bet responsibly. 1327 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:53,240 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in. 1328 01:03:54,680 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 2: We did this a few years ago CBD Fantasy Draft teams. 1329 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,920 Speaker 2: The loser was Gibbe the. 1330 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,520 Speaker 8: Last time, boy, I know a lot of sushi. 1331 01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 4: You did sushi. 1332 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 3: That's right. It was a delight. It was a real delight. 1333 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,439 Speaker 3: So here are the rules. We have a PPR league. 1334 01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 2: Yep, We're gonna draft six different positions for the fantasy 1335 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 2: amongst the fourteen playoff teams. Your flex position may only 1336 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,160 Speaker 2: be running back, wide receiver, tight end of quarterbacks. Flex 1337 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,800 Speaker 2: position must be the last position filled. Your lineups cannot 1338 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 2: have the same players, and your lineups are locked for 1339 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 2: the entire playoffs. So if you pick somebody who's bounced 1340 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,480 Speaker 2: in round one, tough. 1341 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:36,400 Speaker 4: What's the draft order? 1342 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,960 Speaker 8: G Man did a little spinny wheel thing this morning. 1343 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,960 Speaker 8: Van a white come over and give us. Yeah. 1344 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:47,320 Speaker 6: So I did a wheel and it went. The first 1345 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 6: one it landed on was the fifth pick, Second was 1346 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,240 Speaker 6: the fourth, all the way down to when there was 1347 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 6: two left, and then landing the spin on the last 1348 01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 6: one got the first pick. This is garbage picking for 1349 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:04,600 Speaker 6: first is bow This garbage picking. Second is Jordan picking. 1350 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,520 Speaker 6: Third is myself picking. Fourth is the picking. 1351 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 4: Fifth is get back, all right, I'm first, Yes, snake draft, 1352 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:12,040 Speaker 4: Yes draft. 1353 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,480 Speaker 2: I would rather be you than me. I'm not gonna 1354 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:15,480 Speaker 2: pick again for eight picks. 1355 01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:16,919 Speaker 3: That's okay. No, that's bad. 1356 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:17,640 Speaker 4: No, it's not bad. 1357 01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:18,600 Speaker 7: Bad. 1358 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 4: You get all right? So I'm first. 1359 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:27,840 Speaker 8: You are? Do you have the draft chimes? Kevm, I 1360 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 8: can probably pull it out. 1361 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 3: Let me, yeah, let me work some magic here. 1362 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,880 Speaker 8: That's fine. We're gonna be doing this for like fifteen minutes. 1363 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 2: Oh, there's a lot that factors into this. Yeah, all right. 1364 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:45,600 Speaker 2: With the number one pick in the playoff fantasy draft, 1365 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:47,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Pukaakua. 1366 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,920 Speaker 4: Okay, number one. How did you write so high on 1367 01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 4: the whiteboard the first time that now you can't write 1368 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 4: up there again. 1369 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,000 Speaker 8: You didn't want to stand on the chair for this. 1370 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,520 Speaker 2: Now, all right, we're just doing and it's just one 1371 01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 2: running back, right, one running back. 1372 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 8: But if that, like, if the Rams lose tomorrow, that's 1373 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,280 Speaker 8: it for that wide receiver. 1374 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 2: I'm cooked at wide receiver. But I'm banking on that 1375 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 2: not being the case. 1376 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 3: I'm going QB Matthew Stafford. Stafford's gone. 1377 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:31,080 Speaker 2: Doctor Doctor J and I both think that the Rammets 1378 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:42,200 Speaker 2: we're gonna have a little run here, g man, p 1379 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:43,040 Speaker 2: pr league. 1380 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 6: I'm gonna take Christian McCaffrey. 1381 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 4: Hmmm, suck doctor ze, this really stinks. 1382 01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,080 Speaker 8: Why why does it stink? 1383 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,479 Speaker 4: I don't like how I those the first three picks 1384 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,439 Speaker 4: were all the people that I wanted to take. Yeah, 1385 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 4: that stink, GiB mind your business. 1386 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 2: How about you not stink it? Yeah, there's a lot 1387 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,560 Speaker 2: of factors that you have to think about here. All right, 1388 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:21,280 Speaker 2: you're turned up. 1389 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 4: I know, all right, I'm gonna take Bills play the Jags, right, 1390 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 4: they sure do. God, and the wild card pick has 1391 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,320 Speaker 4: to be the last pick, like I couldn't take two receivers, right, Okay, 1392 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:50,560 Speaker 4: I don't like that. 1393 01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 3: That ham strings you a little bit. 1394 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 8: Dumb, like that little rule that I love, that little wrinkle. 1395 01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:03,920 Speaker 4: That rule stinks. All right, I'm gonna take Josh Allen. 1396 01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:10,640 Speaker 3: Who I guess I know where you're going with the scores. 1397 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 4: I don't believe. But I'm just like, I have to 1398 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,679 Speaker 4: make a decision here to go all in. You're gonna 1399 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:22,040 Speaker 4: win it if you've got a fantasy player. He definitely 1400 01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:29,599 Speaker 4: is definitely is boyl boy o boy. 1401 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:45,839 Speaker 11: I'll go James Cook going on to the second round, I'll. 1402 01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,120 Speaker 8: Go Jackson Smith and jigbo j s M All right 1403 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 8: back to you, doctor Z. 1404 01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take who's the five seed? Where which see 1405 01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:08,839 Speaker 4: either side? 1406 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,080 Speaker 3: Rammits Texans, rammits. 1407 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:21,320 Speaker 4: A tennis Texans. I'm gonna take Nico Collins. All is 1408 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:21,600 Speaker 4: this me? 1409 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:22,679 Speaker 3: Or's this g man? 1410 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:24,840 Speaker 4: GM? 1411 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,639 Speaker 8: We're almost to you, a little guy a minute. 1412 01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:28,360 Speaker 3: It's a long wait. 1413 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:32,560 Speaker 4: I want to be waiting forever. Now you're gonna have 1414 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:33,799 Speaker 4: three like legit dudes. 1415 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:38,519 Speaker 2: Well, maybe we'll see GMN's over there writing things down 1416 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,760 Speaker 2: the van of white he's multitasking. 1417 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 3: He's got this whiteboard. 1418 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:47,080 Speaker 2: You can't see this if you're watching YouTube. See it like, 1419 01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 2: he's got this giant whiteboard. Is there anything on that 1420 01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 2: whiteboard that we don't want people to pay that close 1421 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:52,559 Speaker 2: of attention to? 1422 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:52,840 Speaker 7: Gibby? 1423 01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,519 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just I don't just be careful, like 1424 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 2: sometimes we'll write things on there that not everyone needs 1425 01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:58,960 Speaker 2: to know everything about. 1426 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 4: Man, hold on, I'm reading the whiteboard. Now, what's a 1427 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:03,439 Speaker 4: trading card segment? 1428 01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:03,799 Speaker 7: Idea? 1429 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:04,400 Speaker 4: I'm into that. 1430 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:06,959 Speaker 8: We were opening packs yesterday. 1431 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,280 Speaker 3: Oh that's fun, let's do that. Let's do that. Do 1432 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 3: you have a pick, g man, Young Gabriel. 1433 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:13,920 Speaker 4: I want to take Davante. 1434 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:18,240 Speaker 3: Adams, Adams young g man, So is it me? Back 1435 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:18,599 Speaker 3: to back? 1436 01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:24,240 Speaker 8: It's d d angry bo is making me laugh today, 1437 01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 8: So long man. 1438 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:31,240 Speaker 4: My next pick is Khalil Secure. 1439 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,000 Speaker 2: So I get I got two now right, and who 1440 01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,720 Speaker 2: do you have so far? I got Drake. 1441 01:10:39,520 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 3: May and mm hmmm, Drake May and give me mm hmm. 1442 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:13,360 Speaker 2: I'll go Kyn Williams the solid sque Well, it's a 1443 01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:17,639 Speaker 2: bet on the my present of Super Bowl Jam. 1444 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,240 Speaker 4: I'm going to Jacobs. 1445 01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:33,599 Speaker 8: The chimes that won't ever end. I mean, I can stop. 1446 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:36,439 Speaker 8: This is good if you have the end. I don't 1447 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,400 Speaker 8: know if you have the NFL music. I can't hear it. 1448 01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 3: It is Yeah, he's got it going. 1449 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,479 Speaker 4: It's what we got. 1450 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,000 Speaker 3: Tom Jackson on the call with my best friend. 1451 01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:55,320 Speaker 8: What he's on it? What do you got the original hurts? 1452 01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:11,400 Speaker 3: H yeah, uh ze Gura back to doctor Zee. 1453 01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Saquon Barkley. 1454 01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 12: M h. 1455 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 9: M. 1456 01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:52,080 Speaker 8: H okay, this is riveting, yep, exactly. I'm going I 1457 01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:56,360 Speaker 8: had to figure it out. I'm going Kolby Parkinson. 1458 01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 4: Okay hmm. And then you get back to backscive right exactly, and. 1459 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:18,360 Speaker 8: I will go with h I will go with bow. 1460 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:26,680 Speaker 2: Knicks O Nicks, all right, back to back to sea. 1461 01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:37,960 Speaker 4: Give me the big fella, Harrison Meavis, the thicker kicker, 1462 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:55,680 Speaker 4: ye Young Gabriel, Josh Allen, Saquon Barki, Nico Collins. If 1463 01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,960 Speaker 4: those teams do decently, feels really good. Not a single 1464 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:00,920 Speaker 4: Jaguar has been taken. Interesting. 1465 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:02,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. 1466 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:11,920 Speaker 4: Good. You could have waited on quarterback. By the way, 1467 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:13,639 Speaker 4: if everybody had already had a quarterback you'd have had 1468 01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 4: you could have gotten bo Nix at the end. 1469 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,840 Speaker 8: Yep, yeah, I waited. I did better than this one. 1470 01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:21,880 Speaker 4: Then I would say you still didn't need it. That 1471 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,320 Speaker 4: could have been your the next time around. You had 1472 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:25,760 Speaker 4: one you could have had. You could have had the 1473 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:26,479 Speaker 4: thicker kicker. 1474 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:27,960 Speaker 8: Do you have. 1475 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,640 Speaker 6: A give me cam, little. 1476 01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:36,840 Speaker 4: Cam Little the Jags kicker seventy yard? Are there sent 1477 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:44,599 Speaker 4: seven points? Doctor Jake? Come on down one George Kiddo. 1478 01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:46,439 Speaker 4: Mm hmm like that. 1479 01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,040 Speaker 3: I hope he's healthy. 1480 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:50,960 Speaker 8: A ped report on that? 1481 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:51,519 Speaker 3: All right? 1482 01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,080 Speaker 8: Me you for two. 1483 01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:54,680 Speaker 3: Jason Myers. 1484 01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,479 Speaker 4: Goad need a tight end. 1485 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:09,240 Speaker 3: I think give me two seconds on this. 1486 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:23,200 Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, oh man, this is the final this No, no, 1487 01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,280 Speaker 4: he's gonna get his flex at the very flex. 1488 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,439 Speaker 2: At the I'll get the worst flex, so that'll be 1489 01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:28,799 Speaker 2: the that's the trade off. 1490 01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:29,280 Speaker 8: For it good. 1491 01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 10: Umm mm hmmm. 1492 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:36,759 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Higbee. 1493 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:43,559 Speaker 4: Two rams tight ends off the board early, That's right, Rabbit, 1494 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:46,800 Speaker 4: Wat's the Rams get bounced in the first round. 1495 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,800 Speaker 3: Well, then I'm done. Then I'm coaching big bet on that. 1496 01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,519 Speaker 8: I was gonna say, I'll be buying sushi with you 1497 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,800 Speaker 8: this time again, Jordan. 1498 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,640 Speaker 3: M h give me Matt Prater. 1499 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:02,519 Speaker 8: Oo Roll mc dice. 1500 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:13,599 Speaker 4: Gabriel needs a tight end, that's fine, make your google. 1501 01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,599 Speaker 2: In the fantasy league that I play in, we don't 1502 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,559 Speaker 2: have tight ends, so it's just wide receivers or tight ends. 1503 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 2: Really yeah, So outside of Trey McBride, if you were 1504 01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,240 Speaker 2: to say, like who who had great year and tight end? 1505 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:24,920 Speaker 3: I'd have no idea. 1506 01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:35,840 Speaker 6: Interesting woo Pig Suey Hunter, Henry. 1507 01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:34,120 Speaker 3: That's nuts. 1508 01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:35,920 Speaker 2: Have you ever been in a place where Arkansas is 1509 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,879 Speaker 2: when they do that, when their fans do that, Yeah, 1510 01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,960 Speaker 2: it's crazy, Like they'll be in a restaurant and they 1511 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:42,600 Speaker 2: just start doing it. 1512 01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:46,360 Speaker 3: They start calling it stupid. It's crazy. 1513 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:49,160 Speaker 4: Is it me? 1514 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 8: It is you? 1515 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:51,880 Speaker 4: And what do I have to pick? 1516 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:53,599 Speaker 8: Tight end? 1517 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,280 Speaker 4: K I'm gonna feel like you just go all in 1518 01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:09,519 Speaker 4: to win this thing. Oh Man, Green Bay play Chicago, 1519 01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,880 Speaker 4: in Chicago, they give me Colston Lovelands. 1520 01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,960 Speaker 8: Uh, I'm gonna go fair Bairn. 1521 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:24,799 Speaker 10: My kicker. 1522 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:26,640 Speaker 4: Yep, there's your flex. 1523 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:52,599 Speaker 8: Rememberus question. H Well, I've got bow Nicks. I'm gonna 1524 01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 8: go Courtland Sutton. 1525 01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:54,280 Speaker 3: All right. 1526 01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,200 Speaker 4: About taking this guy much of it. I'm gonna take 1527 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:05,800 Speaker 4: our j Harvey. I like it. 1528 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,120 Speaker 3: The g man is up you. 1529 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:24,160 Speaker 8: Multiple, so I'm giving him a little extra time. 1530 01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,280 Speaker 4: I'm really diverse. I don't have like a one team. 1531 01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:30,880 Speaker 4: I'm all right, I can only have two guys in 1532 01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:34,760 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. Who do you have, Puka. 1533 01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,839 Speaker 2: Kyronen Higbee. Yeah, that's a lot, a lot of rabbits. 1534 01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,439 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Zach Sharboney. So there has not been 1535 01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,600 Speaker 4: a single jag taken other than Cam Little. 1536 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:50,479 Speaker 3: And I think they're gonna win. I mean, I know 1537 01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:51,880 Speaker 3: we're gonna do the scores in a second. 1538 01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:57,400 Speaker 4: If they do, that knocks Josh Allen right out of here. 1539 01:18:58,280 --> 01:18:59,800 Speaker 8: Receiver running back tight ends. 1540 01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:02,080 Speaker 4: Give me Romeo. 1541 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:09,360 Speaker 8: Dobbs final pick. 1542 01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,120 Speaker 2: There's a lot of good options here. I'm gonna go 1543 01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:21,960 Speaker 2: Travion Travion it's between Travion Net. 1544 01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,640 Speaker 4: I'm shocked at Woody Marks did not get drafted, or 1545 01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:29,920 Speaker 4: that Dalton Schultz didn't get drafted. Yeah, I mean, I 1546 01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,160 Speaker 4: just wanted to c J. Stroud get drafted. 1547 01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:33,200 Speaker 3: Well I don't. 1548 01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:36,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I could see Pittsburgh beating him. You they will, 1549 01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 2: but I could see it and what you're looking for, 1550 01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,759 Speaker 2: although I bet they score point, but I also wonder, 1551 01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:44,759 Speaker 2: Like what I was thinking about is like I'm looking 1552 01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:48,080 Speaker 2: for volume. So if I I have both, I have 1553 01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,080 Speaker 2: both the Rams and the Patriots, Like that's my super 1554 01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,080 Speaker 2: Bowl as we go into this thing, I don't we 1555 01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,200 Speaker 2: didn't really do that this week? Did we do we 1556 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,720 Speaker 2: do that? Like our super Bowl and all that the 1557 01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,080 Speaker 2: braw I think we talked about it a little bit, 1558 01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,360 Speaker 2: but I don't know if we have. So I'm just 1559 01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:08,000 Speaker 2: thinking four games. I'm just trying to go volume, volume shooters. 1560 01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:09,840 Speaker 2: So that's why I stayed away, Like I think Jackson 1561 01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,120 Speaker 2: will win, but like on the chance they don't, then. 1562 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,240 Speaker 8: You the same thing with the Bears and Packers. 1563 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:16,760 Speaker 2: Right Bears Packers game. I stayed away from all of 1564 01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:18,400 Speaker 2: that because it makes me nervous. I could see either 1565 01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,720 Speaker 2: one of those teams winning like pretty good conviction that 1566 01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:23,799 Speaker 2: the Patriots and Rams will at least win this week somehow, 1567 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,519 Speaker 2: some way, and then whatever happens beyond that, at least 1568 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,439 Speaker 2: you have one game that's in. That's tricky though, when 1569 01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:33,439 Speaker 2: you're trying to because it's really the volume. Yep, you 1570 01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,320 Speaker 2: need to make That's why I, like you said, yeah, 1571 01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:38,840 Speaker 2: like the Broncos and Seahawks, we stayed largely away from 1572 01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,040 Speaker 2: because you're already out of game. 1573 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,200 Speaker 4: And if they win, they go a game, they go. 1574 01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,120 Speaker 2: To the super Bowl, then you're good. But they're already 1575 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:48,599 Speaker 2: down one game out of jump Street, you know. All right, 1576 01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:50,040 Speaker 2: speaking of the scores, we will do it. 1577 01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:51,599 Speaker 3: Coming up next. You listen to Cleve the Browns Daily 1578 01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:52,879 Speaker 3: on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1579 01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, 1580 01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:08,160 Speaker 1: presented by bally Bet Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner 1581 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,640 Speaker 1: of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly. 1582 01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,639 Speaker 2: Oh The Emperor Provider copiers document service history of Cleveland 1583 01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:25,720 Speaker 2: Browns will tackle is any size office in two and 1584 01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:30,400 Speaker 2: six forty five two thousand, or visit Ohio Businessmachines dot Com. 1585 01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,799 Speaker 2: Time for the little segment we like to call please 1586 01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:34,720 Speaker 2: do pay attention to the scores? 1587 01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,479 Speaker 8: How'd you hold school last week? In a week that 1588 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:44,120 Speaker 8: you we told you in advance, tough tough week boy boys, 1589 01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:45,920 Speaker 8: tough week for the boys. 1590 01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,080 Speaker 4: We had a uh say one. 1591 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,200 Speaker 8: But it wasn't for it wasn't embarrassing. 1592 01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:53,320 Speaker 4: No, we had a seven and nine for me. We 1593 01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:59,080 Speaker 4: had a six and ten for bo. That puts us 1594 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:03,120 Speaker 4: for the full season in at a combined sixty four 1595 01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,600 Speaker 4: games over five hundred. So certainly not bad, nothing to 1596 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:08,439 Speaker 4: nothing to shake. 1597 01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,280 Speaker 3: Your nose up, Very solid, very solid. 1598 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,320 Speaker 2: I definitely had the probably the slow the worst finish 1599 01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:17,080 Speaker 2: of my time doing this, the worst last month that 1600 01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:17,599 Speaker 2: I've had. 1601 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,479 Speaker 3: I just couldn't see it. That's weird. 1602 01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,120 Speaker 2: I just could last month is really a struggle by 1603 01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:23,200 Speaker 2: the normal standards. 1604 01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:24,760 Speaker 8: Well, the new season starts and. 1605 01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:27,559 Speaker 4: The normal standards are outrageous. But to your point, you 1606 01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,760 Speaker 4: were as many games over five hundred as you were 1607 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:37,080 Speaker 4: at the end of the season in week twelve. Yeah, 1608 01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,240 Speaker 4: week eleven, actually if you were twenty after week eleven, yeah, 1609 01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,920 Speaker 4: just didn't where it ended, just couldn't get highed. Just struggle, 1610 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:46,599 Speaker 4: real struggle. Good job at you, great job managed it. 1611 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,280 Speaker 4: I managed it. I've waited some disaster, but we were 1612 01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:50,840 Speaker 4: able to We were able to manage it and get 1613 01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,720 Speaker 4: it done. Well, we got some real games. Now, these 1614 01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,799 Speaker 4: lines I find to be Yeah, buzz. 1615 01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:58,360 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you this as we're doing as 1616 01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:01,880 Speaker 2: before we get into this, I could talk myself into 1617 01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:05,559 Speaker 2: either side of these on almost everyone, which is why 1618 01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,080 Speaker 2: it's which is really wild. 1619 01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:08,400 Speaker 4: It's good. Yeah. 1620 01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:11,519 Speaker 8: Well, before we get to the NFL, we have one 1621 01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:15,439 Speaker 8: more college football National semifinal tonight, the Chick fil A 1622 01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:22,840 Speaker 8: Peach Bowl number five Oregon, number one Indiana score has 1623 01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:24,040 Speaker 8: gone to three. 1624 01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,559 Speaker 4: Barring are we putting this in the scores? 1625 01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,000 Speaker 8: No, but I just we picked yesterday. 1626 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:34,920 Speaker 4: So barring IRV doing something that alters the course of 1627 01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,639 Speaker 4: the National championshi game, this is the national championship, says 1628 01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:41,519 Speaker 4: College Football Nate, Indiana wins it handily. Indiana will go 1629 01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:48,040 Speaker 4: on to win the national championship. Indiana thirty one, twenty seven. 1630 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:55,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oregon has one one running back. They were taking 1631 01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,320 Speaker 2: defensive players. They have a couple in the portal injuries 1632 01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,880 Speaker 2: that you were taking defensive players and play running back. 1633 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:06,839 Speaker 2: Nice that that's never a recipe. Somehow, Indiana is relatively healthy. 1634 01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,519 Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't. I think I think it could 1635 01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,040 Speaker 2: be close. For I think it'd be very similar, like 1636 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,920 Speaker 2: the game in Eugene that Indiana won thirty one twenty one, 1637 01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:14,800 Speaker 2: something like that. 1638 01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:15,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think. 1639 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,040 Speaker 4: Hoosier's Hoosiers, Hoosiers. 1640 01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,960 Speaker 3: It's crazy losing his program in the history of college football. 1641 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,439 Speaker 8: They're gonna they're going to win the National They're going 1642 01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:27,400 Speaker 8: to play you, hopefully for the National Chapels U Away 1643 01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:31,919 Speaker 8: we go in the National Football League Wild Card Weekend 1644 01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:37,439 Speaker 8: twenty twenty six, Saturday, four thirty the number five seed 1645 01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,400 Speaker 8: ram It at number four Carolina. 1646 01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:49,559 Speaker 4: Nathan Zigura lead us off. I'm a rematch. It's a 1647 01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:55,920 Speaker 4: rematch of a game. Carolina one kind of sparks double digits. 1648 01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,840 Speaker 4: It makes absolutely no sense. I feel like they are 1649 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,280 Speaker 4: begging you, begging you, begging you to take the side 1650 01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:09,080 Speaker 4: of the Carolina Panthers here, and I'm it's it's hard 1651 01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,800 Speaker 4: for me not to follow it now. I think what 1652 01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,439 Speaker 4: you have in situations like this is you don't The 1653 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,679 Speaker 4: back door is not as much of a thing because 1654 01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:18,960 Speaker 4: you get kind of you're like, all right, it's over, 1655 01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:22,280 Speaker 4: Like who cares? So I'm gonna take the Rammits. I 1656 01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:25,400 Speaker 4: think that it is insane. I think this line is insane, crazy, 1657 01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:29,479 Speaker 4: and I hope to be proven correct. Rammits thirty four 1658 01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:31,200 Speaker 4: Panthers twenty. 1659 01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see it the same way. I just it's 1660 01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,720 Speaker 2: just way too big, and I'm with you, they're just 1661 01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:38,960 Speaker 2: begging for it. So I like the Rabbits as well. 1662 01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:39,919 Speaker 2: Thirty one to seventeen. 1663 01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,120 Speaker 4: If this line was seven, I might have taken Carolina. 1664 01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,000 Speaker 4: I know that should make no sense. 1665 01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,760 Speaker 2: As though if you follow this stuff, it would make 1666 01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,000 Speaker 2: more sense if it were six and a half. 1667 01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:48,679 Speaker 3: Seven and a half. 1668 01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,960 Speaker 8: Yeap to Saturday night and arguably the best game of 1669 01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:59,160 Speaker 8: wild Card Weekend rematch Parked Trey number seven, Green Bay 1670 01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,519 Speaker 8: on the road ode in that awful stadium known as 1671 01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:07,960 Speaker 8: Soldier Field, Chicago. Green Bay snow in the forecast eight 1672 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,480 Speaker 8: o'clock Amazon Prime bo Bishop. 1673 01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,080 Speaker 2: Greens Bay has been leaking gas for a little while now, 1674 01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,840 Speaker 2: and I think what this is about is just the 1675 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,439 Speaker 2: history with the Packers, and I think that's why they're 1676 01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:24,880 Speaker 2: favored in this game. And I don't think it's a 1677 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,720 Speaker 2: reflection of where these two teams are right now. I 1678 01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,240 Speaker 2: like green Bay better normally, and it's a lot to 1679 01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:32,719 Speaker 2: put anything with Caleb. 1680 01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:33,519 Speaker 3: But I think the Bears are. 1681 01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:33,880 Speaker 4: Going to do it. 1682 01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:34,799 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Chicago. 1683 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:38,120 Speaker 4: I want to see it. And that's why I'm saying now, 1684 01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:39,760 Speaker 4: if the Packers win by one, we still get the 1685 01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:41,960 Speaker 4: joy of it. Yep. But I think that I think 1686 01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:43,840 Speaker 4: it's gonna be a tight game. I think it's gonna 1687 01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,000 Speaker 4: be an awesome game. I cannot wait to watch this game. 1688 01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:51,040 Speaker 4: I'll tell you, I'm actually outside the Monday night game. 1689 01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,080 Speaker 4: I could not care less about. I think it's gonna 1690 01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,000 Speaker 4: be gross. I'm not interested at all. And I think 1691 01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:59,120 Speaker 4: they made a big mistake. I think Niners Eagles, which 1692 01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:02,120 Speaker 4: is in that kind of like Nebulus zoned to me 1693 01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:04,840 Speaker 4: at four thirty, that should have been a primetime game. 1694 01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:07,360 Speaker 4: I would have put the I would have put the 1695 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,599 Speaker 4: if I was redoing this slate, I would have put 1696 01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:13,240 Speaker 4: the Houston Steelers game either at one or four thirty 1697 01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,439 Speaker 4: on Sunday. Move the bills to whichever one is the ops. 1698 01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,280 Speaker 4: And I had to put the Niners Eagles on Monday. 1699 01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:23,599 Speaker 8: Night next to the Sunday slate and the number what's 1700 01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:24,040 Speaker 8: that like? 1701 01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,120 Speaker 2: So to me, I guess the one that the game 1702 01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:30,000 Speaker 2: that I am the day. That's like Monday night feels 1703 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,679 Speaker 2: like I guess I was gonna rate them in important 1704 01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,360 Speaker 2: Like if I was a television executive, the biggest ones 1705 01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:39,600 Speaker 2: that I would want are Saturday night, Sunday night, Sunday. 1706 01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,759 Speaker 3: At four thirty. Those are usually the biggest audience. 1707 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:43,720 Speaker 4: So you think that they're saying that's a bigger. 1708 01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:46,639 Speaker 2: That's the biggest audience I think overday Monday. Yeah, bigger 1709 01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:47,120 Speaker 2: than Monday. 1710 01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:49,599 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so then it's in a proper Yeah, 1711 01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:50,800 Speaker 4: I think it's I think I just want it as 1712 01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:52,719 Speaker 4: a standalone. I don't like what they did on Monday. 1713 01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the least valuable is Saturday four thirty, 1714 01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,760 Speaker 2: then Sunday at one, then Monday, And then you could 1715 01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:02,759 Speaker 2: argue you four thirty versus the two eight o'clock Probably honestly, 1716 01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,320 Speaker 2: four to thirty Sunday and eight o'clock Sunday are probably 1717 01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:05,880 Speaker 2: one and two. 1718 01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:08,600 Speaker 8: I had have been fine flipping the eight o'clock in 1719 01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,120 Speaker 8: one o'clock games on Sunday. 1720 01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:12,840 Speaker 2: I think the one o'clock game is really good. I 1721 01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,559 Speaker 2: just don't think they are any Jaguar fans outside of Jackson. 1722 01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,840 Speaker 8: Then there's that problem, so they're not going to market 1723 01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:19,479 Speaker 8: you're dealing with, and there are none. 1724 01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:23,000 Speaker 3: But there's no Chargers fans either. They're just banking on 1725 01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:23,519 Speaker 3: New England. 1726 01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:28,280 Speaker 8: I guess. Uh. The number six seed Buffalo Bills on 1727 01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:32,360 Speaker 8: the road taking on the third seeded Jacksonville Jaguars Nathan 1728 01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:34,160 Speaker 8: Zigura to kick off Sunday. 1729 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:41,160 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, everybody thinks Josh Allen's the best player 1730 01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,240 Speaker 4: in this tournament, and then that's that. That is why 1731 01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:46,439 Speaker 4: he is going to win in this one. I think 1732 01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:48,240 Speaker 4: the Jags are the better team. They're the hottest team. 1733 01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:50,320 Speaker 4: They're point differential last eight games is one hundred and 1734 01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,920 Speaker 4: they're one hundred and fifty something points better than their opponents. 1735 01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,080 Speaker 4: There evera thirty three there. What they've done over the 1736 01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:56,880 Speaker 4: last eight games we haven't seen since the Greatest Show 1737 01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:00,640 Speaker 4: on Turf. I think they're the best team. I do 1738 01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:01,960 Speaker 4: think they're at home, but I do think there's a 1739 01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:07,719 Speaker 4: little pressure on them. So long way of saying Jags 1740 01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:11,559 Speaker 4: thirty three, Bills thirty four. 1741 01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,880 Speaker 2: Who I like what you did there, I really like 1742 01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,320 Speaker 2: what you did there. Pay attention very much, pay attention 1743 01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:21,760 Speaker 2: to the scores on that. I think Jackson's going to 1744 01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:25,200 Speaker 2: win the game. I think they're really good. I think 1745 01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,120 Speaker 2: they believe and I think they're humming. And I wouldn't 1746 01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:29,639 Speaker 2: be surprised to think a long run in this thing. 1747 01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:32,400 Speaker 2: I'll take Jacksonville to win this one, outright. I think 1748 01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,800 Speaker 2: it'll be really good. Alan will be a warrior in 1749 01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:39,559 Speaker 2: this one. Jacksonville thirty eight, Buffalo thirty seven. 1750 01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,280 Speaker 8: Onto the four to thirty game because we're running out 1751 01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:47,000 Speaker 8: of time. Number six San Francis, number three, Philly. The 1752 01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,479 Speaker 8: number is six, now, Peter, make. 1753 01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:54,120 Speaker 4: That note, good note. Nord Niners outright. 1754 01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I think they're going to win too. I think 1755 01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:58,240 Speaker 2: they'll find a way to get it done. I just 1756 01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,400 Speaker 2: I trust in Kyle and what they'll figure out. Off offensively, 1757 01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:02,760 Speaker 2: Obviously they don't get a pass rush. The number keeps 1758 01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:04,720 Speaker 2: going up, which is kind of interesting. But I like 1759 01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:05,400 Speaker 2: the Niners too. 1760 01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,479 Speaker 8: One minute to go and we go to eight o'clock 1761 01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,840 Speaker 8: Sunday because we'll do Monday Night on Monday. Number seven 1762 01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:16,160 Speaker 8: La Los Angeles the Chargers in Foxborough to take on 1763 01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:17,959 Speaker 8: the two seeded New England Patriots. 1764 01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,840 Speaker 4: Bo I think this is beat down. I think it's 1765 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:21,760 Speaker 4: a beat down. 1766 01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:23,280 Speaker 8: Injuries count caught up. 1767 01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's like thirty five ten, same Patriot. Yeah, Patriots, Patriots, Patriots, Patriots. Yep, 1768 01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,320 Speaker 2: absolutely all right. We are back Monday to break it 1769 01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,120 Speaker 2: all down, get you set for the Monday night playoff 1770 01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,160 Speaker 2: game as well. Enjoy your playoff football kids, and you're 1771 01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:38,960 Speaker 2: coaching searches. Thanks for listening, Body, Cleuve, The Browns Daily, 1772 01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:40,280 Speaker 2: A fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1773 01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:43,800 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of 1774 01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:47,080 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland