WEBVTT - The Rob Ninkovich Episode 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.800 I do like his interviews. By the way, the first 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:06.560 overall pick right. If you could describe yourself in one word, 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:10.639 how would you nasty? My job is to protect a quarterback. 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:14.200 I love getting down and nasty in the trenches. I'm 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:18.080 just out there past set and trying to protect my quarterback. 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.960 Like that gets me going, right? You love am all right? Wait? 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:23.680 How many times have you been practicing that? 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:25.560 I just made it up, just real quick. It's like 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:27.840 you and the Bill Belichick impersonation. So many times you're 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.240 in the mirror. Just I meant next. 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:33.279 I sat in front of him for twelve years and 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:34.519 watch him pick his noses. 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:36.680 You did? Yeah? I get, I get. I can tell 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:40.000 you his habits from everything. Yeah, isn't that. It's attractive, 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:41.360 isn't it? But you didn't. 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.519 You didn't sit to Campbell for twelve years. I just 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.800 listened to him and then you practiced a couple of times, 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:48.840 just one. 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:52.400 It's all about watching yourself once doing No, never did that. 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:54.920 I don't think I did jewels. 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:55.320 I think. 0:00:56.760 --> 0:01:00.000 Friend makers at each other. 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:05.240 Welcome to Dudes on Dudes. I'm Julian Edelman, I'm Rob Gronkowski, 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.040 and this is the show where your favorite dudes get 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:08.520 to talk about their favorite dudes. 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:10.960 And today we're joined by one of our favorite pals 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.720 of all time, Rob Ninkovich. 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:15.800 Hey, thank you for having me, guys, I'm happy to 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:16.240 be here. 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.080 What are we talking about today? 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.920 Ninko visiting coach Bill Belichick at Chapel Hill. 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.920 The challenge is probably going to be trying to get 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:28.000 the most out of a less talented roster. Chapel ninc 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:31.280 one of my favorite dudes of all time, Just a tough, 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.679 tough quarterback. Grating Now on A's and the broadcasting as 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:40.440 are takes for the Patriots upcoming season and their off season. 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:42.800 It doesn't mean you're going to gel as a team 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:44.199 when you bring in that many free agents. 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:45.640 I think they're nine to ten win team. 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:49.200 And then we wrap it up by finding out what 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.800 kind of dude Ninko is In this week's Chill Is 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.080 Dude of the Week, presented by our favorite. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:02:01.120 Beer course, like Gotta stick around to the end. Dudes 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:05.160 on Dudes is a production of iHeart Radio. What is this? 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:08.079 Who is this Ninkovits that we're encountering right now? This 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:12.320 isn't the real Ninka. I'm loving this, na I know 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:13.400 he always has like. 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:17.760 A new gimmick in this new games. Very single time 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.600 I see him, it's when I'm the most calm and 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:22.720 cool and collective I've. 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:23.079 Ever seen it. 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.119 It's the most calm, and I love it. He's trying 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.160 to talk, and we just keep interrupting you. He interrupt us, 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:29.120 interrupt me again. 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:34.280 We're we're talking over starting to be bring memories up, 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:36.799 bringing the memories of how it was in the locker room. 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:39.040 Nino try to talk. No one let him talk. 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.560 Well, we should probably introduce him first before we rolling 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:44.040 out today. 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:48.680 We are joined by another good friend, great friend, and 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:52.440 another really great teammates. Good fellow. That's why I bust 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:54.840 your ball so much on social media. Hey, we'll get 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:58.400 to that. If I didn't like you, we're introducing you 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:02.440 right now. We're introducing you. Bust their balls. Don't worry, 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:06.160 but let us praise you. He's a two time super 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:07.680 Bowl winning champion. 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:11.280 Yeah, because we made such great catches. Actually he did 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:15.560 have some as well. Set he's getting. 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:20.679 Frustrated over there. Credit. I'm relaxed right then, All right, 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:24.840 well what you said two times? Remember I have the 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:31.240 Patriots all dynasty team. He's a Purdue boiler maker, yays, 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.640 do you know what a boiler maker is? Something legend. 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.320 He's a legend from Perdue, Rob Nikovich. Welcome to thank you, 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:41.400 welcome to the show. Thank you, guys, so excited to 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:45.040 have you. Happy to be on the Dudes on Dudes 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.800 on dudes. You know, just double fisting it all the time. 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:52.200 You too, We wanted another dude on a dude that's right, Yeah, 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.040 let's do it. We can do this show. We could 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:57.119 do the show from Pete Town, take it on the road. 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:00.880 What what? What is Provincetown? And what's so? It's up 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:02.760 with the prophet. It's a great place, you guys go 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.120 have fun there. I love Cape I love Cape Cono. 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:10.560 Yeah, great beaches, great, Yeah, there's great art in there 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.040 is there is great white sharks. You'd be a good 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.040 meal for a great white chart. I would say you'd 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.880 be a white seal, a big white all right. So 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:19.120 what's going on these days? 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:22.000 Yeah? What are you doing these days? Yeah? Right now 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:23.119 I'm coaching my kids. 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.640 So everetts in his uh nine year old we're in 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:28.720 the championship game Sunday, So we're playing. 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.040 And what football? All right? Yep? 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:35.400 So flight football, flag football, ye, how Olympic nine, so 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.120 we got Villa's gonna be twelve. So we got eleven 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.719 nine and five. Uh so we got two flag football 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.800 players right now, so I have to I have to 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.760 pay basically whyat to go pull flags? He wasn't doing anything, 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:49.960 just standing there. I was getting so frustrated. My wife 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:51.920 is yelling at me. You can't yell at him. I say, yeah, 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:53.839 sure as hell I can. I'm gonna yell at him. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.600 So I said, hey, Wyatt, every flag you pull, I'm 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.159 gonna get you a card. So we got a couple 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.559 of grunk cards. I had a couple Julian cards because 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.080 after I said that, he was just he turned it 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:06.120 on and he was pulling flags left and right. So 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:08.839 he's my tough He's the one that I really got. 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:09.920 To stay on. Uh. 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.240 I Like, it's real frustrating as a parent when your 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:16.440 kids are playing sports, right because you want them to 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.599 do great, right, but their personality, like why, he just 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:21.160 doesn't give a shit. So he's just like, yeah, I 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:22.760 don't want to do this, Okay. 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:24.840 He reminds me of myself as a kid. I like that. 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:28.000 I like and he's a tank. So we'll see how 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:28.719 he goes. I don't know. 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:30.920 He might be you know, Everett, he either was going 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:33.120 to be like a dancer or a good athlete. 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:37.200 So we'll see, we'll figure it out. Hey, whatever whatever 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:41.000 they want to do. Here's a question I'm going to 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:42.480 ask you. I want Maislator. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.760 He was our first guest on the Dudes on Dudes podcast, 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.080 and thank you so much for being the second guest man. 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:48.880 Thank you for having it easy for us. 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.160 You know, you relate to us like no other as well, 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.839 and I love your enthusiasm and your energy you're bringing 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.240 to the table. But I asked Matthew Slater because I'm 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:59.920 the only one here without kids. Slater has kids, Julian 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:01.599 as a kid, you got a couple of kids. You 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:04.080 were just talking about what is it like to be 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.800 a father and what am I missing out on? I 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:08.760 want you to convince me that I should be making 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:09.640 kids tonight. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:10.200 Camille. 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:15.720 You you've practiced and you you've you're trained at at 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:17.200 the process a kid. 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.160 You just got to leave it in. Okay, and okay, 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.720 that might happen, but technique, for me, it's all about technique. 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:29.720 You had nothing to do, you have to funny, you 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:35.560 leave it so I think you know, for me, you 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:36.520 got to stay in the game. 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:40.400 To win three Super Bowl you got to stay in Uh. 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.880 So you know, imagine burning it. You burn it from 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.800 both ends. Eventually you're gonna have nothing left. I feel 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.720 like at the end of my career, I didn't really 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.920 necessarily want we're talking about your kids because of my kids, 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:53.000 I didn't want to play football. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.359 Okay, it's all risk. 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.400 And reward, right, So if someone was to say, here, Julian, 0:06:58.400 --> 0:06:59.800 I will give you five bucks to go in a 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:01.840 car and let's see if you hit three hundred miles 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:03.960 an hour the fastest car on Like, now, let's say 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:05.120 Indy car we just had, the Indy. 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.000 Five was just there? You're just there? Right? Did you 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:11.920 drink any milk? Is it whole? No, it's whole milk. 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:19.000 It's whole milk, and holy grown Wait your lactose? No? Hell? Okay, 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.640 this is an American guy? Is gluten free? Are you 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:28.720 a gluten guy? Pizza guy? Like I'm a glue guy. 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:32.960 Literally buns you do big. So I think at the 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.200 end of my career, I played eleven years. You guys 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.440 played a little bit longer. Would you play total twelve 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:39.000 twelve eleven. 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:39.960 You played eleven. 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.240 Yes, all right, so I can ask you this, and 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:46.000 if you would have played eleven or twelve, right, would 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:47.840 there have been a difference in how you're living right now? 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.360 Probably, you think so? Maybe there was. There's a few 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.040 more ms. Yeah, a few more ms. But at the 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:55.960 end of the day, a few more ms contract in 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:56.840 the back of my career. 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.640 Yeah, but how many how many heads shots? 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.560 You say, would shots right now instead of just on 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:04.480 the third to take any had shots that last year. 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:08.640 They don't even hit me. They don't even hit Okay, 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:10.720 we're throwing those out there. 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.120 That was fifteen years ago, I know, but they all 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.400 catch up to you. These helmets are freaking sick. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.040 We didn't play with kept playing. I would have kept playing. 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.760 We played with the helmets that they're banned now you 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:23.600 can't even put them on. 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.559 Yeah yeah, year one. No, the last helmet I wore, 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.360 you can't even wear anymore. Yeah, that's you. That sounds 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:32.160 like a you problem. I was wearing advice. I mean, 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:33.079 that's like ten years. 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:35.839 That's Tom his helmet. He can't he couldn't. Tom had 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.440 that old school helmet. How big his helmet was because 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.559 he's got such a large head. It was like elongated 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:43.800 like a bus, you know, because he has that like 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:45.720 two X helmet that he wore. And it was that 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.920 old school right now, remember the old school right now, 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.320 you couldn't even wear it. At the end of his career, 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.360 he had it. He was grandfathered into wearing his. 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:58.280 Just like the single the thing. Yeah you know Aaron Rodgers. 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.480 And yeah, he's a meme now because of that one. 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.800 All right, let's get into these anything easy. 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:08.439 Come on, let's go pats over under eleven wins this year? 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:14.200 Under why under eleven wins? Four wins? Yeah, but let's 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:14.760 be realistic. 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:18.800 Coach player, okay, hit in the draft, got the tackle, 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.520 got wide receiver, the tap, defensive stacks. 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.400 Why even wait a minute, I'm just saying, like, let's 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:24.880 be realistic. 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.920 You think you're gonna have twelve wins? Twelve wins? Twelve 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:29.600 is a lot. They're gonna be a twelve win team 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.160 after being a four wins tough? It is tough. 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.280 I mean, look at the Washington So I took the 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:38.480 underman commanders, yeah, command commanders, Yeah, they did it. 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:40.600 You just said. So, my thought is, how do you 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.800 win over under nine? All right? That's more I'm a nine. 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.000 I think they're nine to ten win team nine ten 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.160 eleven is a lot. I'm going over on nine and 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.600 I'm going under on eleven. Okay, you're right, that's what 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:55.560 realistic that is. So do you think that you can 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.840 win instantly with overpaying in fre agency? 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.080 That's a great point because get the they just spent 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:02.120 three hundred and fifty fivens. 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.080 Let's talk about the thought the dream team Philadelphia Eagles. 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:08.360 Remember twenty thirteen, coach Balichuck always put them up on 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.240 the board. There was so much talk about him. They 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.200 were talking all where the greatest team. We got so 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:14.760 many free agencies come in, and then they went went 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.720 five and eleven that year six, you know, I mean 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.160 it's in ten and they brought in that many free agencies. 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.280 It doesn't mean you're gonna gel as a team when 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.440 you bring in that many free agents exactly, but but 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:29.080 their veteran free agencies. Vrabel's a guy that kind of 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.920 you know, feels like you can tell them he's together. 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.720 He's a guy that you know, he's the glue guy, right, 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:35.680 and he's one of them dudes. 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.000 You see him and that what's it? Forged in Foxborough? 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.520 Now they got the over forge. We're like building this thing. 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.960 Up like our new team has, like our new facility. 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.120 We're gonna build it from the ground up with steel 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.480 and iron, and we're gonna good. Yeah, Mark great, it's 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:51.400 great marketing. So my thought is, if you protect the quarterback, 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.240 which is number one in the NFL. 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.640 Right, I don't think you could ever overpay for offense alignment. No, 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.200 but they didn't like like they over said they overpaid 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:00.600 for a bunch of free agents when you. 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.680 How much is they paying for day free agencies? On 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:03.520 the offensive line? 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:08.080 Got a little guy thirty four, and he's been you know, 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.240 last year was kind of riddled with injuries. Where do 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.360 they get it from with the Commanders? Okay, yes, so 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.440 actually he was played against him with the Commanders and 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:17.000 then he went. 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:18.480 To that he was with the Jets. He's banged up. 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:22.520 Like good drafted. He's a very good player they drafted. 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.120 And I will say I would say that all his interviews, 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:32.560 Campbell not comfortable think about what was boys, Uh did 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.000 he make that tackle by the way, or did he 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:34.400 miss it? 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.320 While I was on the sidelines and like houshed me out. 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.360 It was like a gimme because a gimme tackle. What's 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.520 what was bad on his party? It was just a 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.760 normal flat route and I got twelve yards on the 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.920 flat route. He didn't do his job in the coverage game. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:48.440 Yeah no, and then. 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.760 It was a gimme tackle so tough that I mean 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:52.560 you on the sideline, I was rolling though, I was 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:53.160 fast back that. 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.679 Yeah, you're pretty fast, So I think you look at 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.640 I do like his interviews. By the way, the first 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.840 over all pick right, If you could describe yourself in 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:06.320 one word, how would you nasty? My job is to 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.640 protect the quarterback. I love getting down and nasty in 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:13.559 the trenches. I'm just out there past set and trying 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.800 to protect my quarterback Like that gets me going, right? 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.920 You loveman? All right? Wait? How many times have you 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:20.520 been practicing that? 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:22.400 I just made it up just real quick. It's like 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.679 you and the Bill Belichick impersonations. How many times you're 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.600 in the mirror just I mean next, I sat in. 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.719 Front of him for twelve years and watch him pick 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.319 his noses? Did Yeah? I get, I get. I can 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.840 tell you his habits from everything. Yeah, isn't that It's attractive, 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:37.160 isn't it? 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:41.080 But you didn't You didn't sit to Campbell for twelve years. 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.440 I just listened to him, and then you practiced a 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:47.600 couple of times, just one. It's all about watching yourself 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.280 once doing No, never did that. 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:51.760 I don't think I did jewels. 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:57.840 I think friend, Come on, jeez, I'm gonna have to 0:12:58.000 --> 0:12:58.760 jiff you all right. 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.320 Well, talking about Bill in the InKo here and looking. 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.480 At that hat, what was it like visiting Bill at 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.080 Chapel Hill Chapel. 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.400 Bill was great? Yeah, it was great. We had to 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.800 get tours. Did Page let you go out? 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:12.000 No? 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.320 I didn't do anything like that, even even beams yeah, away, 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.080 track my phone at s in the hotel. 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:20.520 Okay, But anyway, it's uh, you know, for me, I 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:22.240 feel you know, look, you put her shirt like this on, 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:25.480 you wear a hat like this, get something, walk around 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.800 you know, comm aft Bahama baby to say, you walk 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.480 around commaf and what maybe just pick up a younger 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:36.600 chick or something, you know, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Everyone's 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.800 so serious these days. I'm a married man, freaking Page. 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:41.280 I love you, She's the best. 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:42.959 But I would go after you if I saw that ring. 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.240 I was guy. It was great. 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.280 So So this is my this is my thought. I 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.440 was surprised that he took that job. I think we 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.760 were all a little shocked to the surprise. I think 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.120 the challenge is probably going to be trying to get 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:58.280 the most out of a less talented roster. The worst 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:02.719 NFL team in the NFL is more talented, let's just 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.480 face it, Like you could have the shittiest NFL football 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.640 team and you have a you know, roster full of studs. 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:10.920 So I think it might be a little bit more 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.440 difficult to get the most out of some of these 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.880 kids that, let's face it, maybe one, two, maybe three 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.880 or NFL caliber players. Like you look at NFL teams. 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.320 How many NFL guys played on your Arizona team? 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:27.320 Three or four or four? How many from Kent State three? Three? 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:32.680 So like every every college team probably has three if 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:37.000 four max NFL caliber players and some have won, some 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.520 have none, right, some have none, especially you know, if 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.200 you're Atamama, you're gonna have maybe eight. 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.400 To ten how a lot of money in Chapel Hill. Yeah, 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.360 but you're gonna have to bring in some talent. 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.360 And I know that, like the Big Ten, some of 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.920 these big schools they have to cut down on their 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:55.680 roster because there's no walk ons anymore, so they did 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.720 away with the walk on. So if you're from Carolina, 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:00.920 you're Chapel Hill and they pick. It's trying to take 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:04.040 those guys up through free agency. So you know, it 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:07.640 was interesting because there's definitely you know, you talk to 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.680 some of these kids, You're like, how old are you? Like, oh, 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.120 I'm eighteen, Like, shit, you're eighteen years old? Okay, it's 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.960 pretty wild, honestly. You know, I was, I was a 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.240 young I didn't red shirt, so I was young. I 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.760 was eighteen when I was in junior college and when 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.880 I got drafted at twenty one, so my rookie season, 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:25.720 I was twenty two years old. You know, a lot 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:29.040 of these kids, they're you know, red shirt, gray shirt, 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.880 transfer year, COVID year. You know, you got some kids 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.040 that are twenty four and you got other kids that 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:34.480 are eighteen. 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.720 So you have a wide discrepancy there of age. 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:42.080 The word discriptionancy and learning. This guy's smart, Yeah, perdue guy. 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.360 You know, three point two GPA not bad. Oh, Slate 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.440 only had a three point one at UCLA. I know, 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:47.160 three point two. 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.320 It's pretty smart. Super they say produced like the Ivy 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:54.560 League of Public schools. All right, next question, play with Sean. 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.520 You played with Sean Payton. Oh, I didn't play with much. 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.920 Yeah, that's like you know, somebody said, like somebody stole 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.200 Bill Belichick's Super Bowl jersey. It's like, yeah, he didn't 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.960 wear a jersey like Bill's never worn. This isn't baseball. 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.480 We're like, which is weird? Don't you think the managers 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:12.280 wearing like a full uniform is odd? I know, imagine 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:17.920 like Bill the manager used to play those hilarious I know, 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.680 I know that's that's the history. I thought you were 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:22.640 a tradition guy. But getting back to you. 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:26.760 Bet for Sean Sean, Yeah, serious, dude, when you were 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.160 there in New Orleans. 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.000 Two thousand and six, well kind of kind of How 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.480 was it? How was coach Peyton different than coach Belichick? 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.760 My whole professional career, I was with the Parcels. I 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:43.600 was in a Parcels tree. So who Sean, Yeah under Parcels, right. 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:47.800 So the mentality there is very tough, right, Like he's 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:49.760 not an easy guy, but he's very smart. 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:51.720 He's a great offense guy. You know he's not. 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:57.720 There's a clip actually we're playing the Cowboys in Jackson 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.640 State because My first training training camp was at Millsaps 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:04.520 College in Jackson, Mississippi. Terrible, but we were playing the 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.680 Cowboys and I had in like late. I didn't hear 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.320 the whistle, so I kind of tackled the guy. After 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.199 the whistle. They gave me a fifteen yard penalty. I 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:14.800 came off the field. There's a clip of him like 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.960 screaming at me, do you think you're worth fifteen yards? 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.400 And I wanted to say yeah, but I was like no, no, 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:25.639 And he's screaming at me. But he kind of is 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:29.320 that that coach that's going to call you out. He's 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.640 gonna make you know when you're screwing up, right. He's 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:35.080 a tough he's tough, right. So when I went to Miami, 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:39.040 they had Cam Cameron on the Terrible One in fifteen season. 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.840 They were awful in two thousand and seven, like the 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:45.040 worst team I've ever seen in a professional sport, right, 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:49.680 and Tony Sperano came in and then Parcels was the president. 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.680 In eightos Ariano yep Sperano. 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.000 So when I was in the weight room, I was 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.399 working out and Parcels walks in and he puts his 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.480 hand on my shoulder. He goes, hey, you're that Nikovich kid, 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:01.880 right yeah. It's like you remind me of a guy 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:06.919 drafted in New England, Teddy Bruski. It's like, you're you 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:11.480 should be an inside linebacker. So instantly I'm like, shit, 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:13.600 I'm not gonna be a pass rusher because he thought 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:15.600 I was too short, like he was six'. Two he 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.240 liked those big elephant. Guys you, know the guy's long. 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:22.520 Arm he went, McGuinness big big dudes at outside. Linebacker 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:27.800 so had a great camp was outside. LINEBACKER i make the. 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.520 Team i'm on my way home After wednesday. Practice they 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.360 call me back in the. Office my fuck, it they're 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:35.080 gonna cut. Me SO i go Into parcel's. Office he's, like, 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:36.879 hey how old are. You i'm, like, Oh i'm twenty. 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.080 Four he's, like you're. Young i'm gonna offer you a 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:42.640 contract right. Now you shake my. Hand it's a. Deal 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:45.880 if you walk out the no, deal you're. Cut so he's, 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.000