1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Sexton Show kicks off right now. A lot going on, 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: so we know yesterday when I was on the air 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: with you, Oh, Clay will in fact call us from 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: his super secret mission abroad this hour, So we're gonna 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: set that up for you. Clay's out for the week's traveling, 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: but he wants to tell you what he's been up to. 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: One of you might have already guessed it, which was 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: a pretty remarkable, remarkable thing. But he'll be joining us 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: later on, and we also have Michael Wattley joining He's 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: running for Senate North Carolina, so looking forward to that 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: as that conversation gets rolling. Now. Now, we had yesterday 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: the House all voting in favor of except for one guy, 14 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: a Republican voting in favor of the Epstein Transparency Act. 15 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: And then we had and last night the Senate passing 16 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: the same bill unanimously. Senators locked in agreement, automatically passing 17 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: the bill as soon as it came in from the House. 18 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: Just looking at the updates here. Once the President signs 19 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: the bill, the Justice Department has thirty days to release 20 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: materials related to Jeffrey Epstein. Now this is moving. The 21 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: President has already said that he believes this is or 22 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: that he's supportive of this. Now he has said that 23 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: he thinks this is the right move. So we're going 24 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: to get into what's going to happen here. It's not 25 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: like we're going to know all of the details even 26 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: for some time here. There may be further redactions that happen, 27 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: or rather that we will have to contend with, because 28 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: my sense is if the redactions are extensive enough, then 29 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: people will say that's not gonna fly, that's not good enough. 30 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: There have to be more things that are released. So 31 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: that's one possibility. Another possibility is that there's nothing massive 32 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: I say massive in the information that is released, the files, 33 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: if you will, of this investigation, and then people just 34 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: say they hid stuff, and there's still a clamoring for 35 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: more transparency, more. Those are all the things. Those are 36 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: some of the things that I think could come out 37 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: of this. But there was this today as I was 38 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: preparing for our show. Here this is cut twenty seven Pambondi, 39 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: the Attorney General, referring to the Epstein investigation as a 40 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: pending investigation. Play twenty seven. 41 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: The issue with the new information that you just indicated, 42 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: are is the Department seeking information perhaps from the Epstein 43 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: is State because mister Blanche did not have that information 44 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: when he interviewed de Lane Maxwell. What new information? And 45 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: would you limit the new investigation to just those named 46 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: persons that the President talked about or is this a 47 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 2: broad open ended investigation. 48 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: I would refer to the Deputy Attorney General's post that 49 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: he put out on X and we will We're not 50 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: going to say anything else on that because now it 51 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: is a pending investigation in the Southern District of New. 52 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: York, a pending investigation. Meanwhile, the House has demanded Epstein 53 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: financial records from JP Morgan Chase, Deutsche Bank, and the 54 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: US Virgin Islands. That's just in the last twenty four hours. 55 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: Now. 56 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: A few things here I can't tell you. I don't 57 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: know obviously, none of you know, no one outside of 58 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: a very small circle nose in this release that Donald Trump, 59 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: I am very confident, is going to sign the final step, 60 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: if you will, before the release. And then there's thirty days, 61 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: so we're gonna wait a bit. We're gonna wait a 62 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: bit for this information. I don't know exactly how many days, 63 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: but they have up to thirty days to release. Maybe 64 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: it'll come much faster than that. We'll see how the 65 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: bureaucracy handles this. But I sit here and I say 66 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: to myself, because you know, and the House has already 67 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: released sixty five thousand documents related to Epstein, you know 68 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: very well that I have been pounding a certain drum 69 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: on this issue of follow the money, follow the money. 70 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: It is completely unthinkable, unthinkable to me, or rather it 71 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: should be unthinkable maybe a better way of putting it, 72 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: that we do not have a full accounting of how 73 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: Epstein pulled together a fortune that was approaching a billion dollars. 74 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: This guy did not create some new product, He did 75 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: not found some company. He was not some hedge fun 76 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: guy running thirty billion dollars of other people's money. There 77 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: are ways you can make a billion dollars. Tax advice 78 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: is not one of them. It's just not one of them. 79 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: And so this then brings up how did he make 80 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: this money? Why is it that there were some people 81 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: in Epstein's orbit who were unbelievably and I mean that 82 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: in the real sense of can't believe it, unbelievably generous 83 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: to him. Why the money, I think is the single 84 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: best chance we have to get these answers. According to 85 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: subpoenias that were just put out by the House, JP 86 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: Morgan Chase began an internal investigation into accounts previous held 87 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: by Epstein, flagging some forty seven hundred transactions as suspicious. 88 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: Epstein held accounts and bench with the bank with Deutsche 89 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: Bank from twenty thirteen until twenty eighteen. So they're going 90 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: back in here into the money trail, and I sit 91 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: here wondering how it is. And by the way, I 92 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: want to be clear that sometimes I will ask questions 93 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: here that are rhetorical because something isn't adding up. How 94 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: is it possible that we don't have a full and 95 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: clear understanding of where all of Epstein's money came from. 96 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: We've had a little bit here, a little bit there, 97 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: but this should be obvious. And I might add, if 98 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: it's somewhere already, if they have the the flow chart 99 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: of funds, if it's in the release, why haven't we 100 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: already been given it? Why is it taking all of 101 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: this pressure and all of this time. Why is it 102 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: taking us to this place to be in a situation 103 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: to finally get those answers? So there's more that is 104 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: coming out here. Now. I think you can pretty much 105 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: set your watch to this one. No matter what happens 106 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: here with the files. In terms of nothing, this is 107 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: all about getting Trump for the Democrats. And there's something 108 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: very grotesque about Democrats suddenly caring they didn't care about 109 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: this during the Biden administration, suddenly caring so much about 110 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: the Epstein files, Epstein's victims, all of this. It's hard 111 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: not to view it as posturing, because it is posturing, 112 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: meant to create the moral high ground from which they 113 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: can throw mud at Donald Trump, or at least the 114 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: appearance of such a thing. No matter what happens with 115 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: these files, I can assure you they will not say, 116 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: you know, you know, up is cleared. Trump didn't do 117 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: an It didn't do anything. And so that also brings 118 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: us to why I think Trump wasn't so immediately in 119 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: favor of the release, because no matter how much transparency 120 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: he offers, or rather he gives, and for a lot 121 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: of people, I understand, this is a file through on 122 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: a campaign promise, So you want it irrespective of anything else, 123 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: and that's very valid, and clearly Trump has decided that 124 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: that's what's going to happen. This should have been done. 125 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people recognize now sooner. A 126 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: lot of you were calling in and demanding it, to 127 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,359 Speaker 1: which I just kept saying, Yeah, I want more transparency. 128 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: I don't have the files, right, it's not in my 129 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: power to release them. All we can do is air 130 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: as we did, our sense that there's more here and 131 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: that there's more to be uncovered. And I think that 132 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: that has certainly happened. I think that has certainly been 133 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: a very real motivation here right, telling people having the 134 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: Trump base come forward and say we don't have the 135 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: answers we want. We're not accepting anything else. It's time 136 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: for this all to come clean now. Speaker Johnson, he 137 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: is pointing out here, this is cut one. He's saying 138 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: that the president has nothing to do with it. Democrats 139 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: are going to weaponize it. Just be prepared for this. 140 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: They're going to attack Trump even if his name doesn't 141 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: appear one more time in the files. Play clip one. 142 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: This is a political exercise for Democrats. And it pains 143 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 4: me to say it. I wish that was not the truth, 144 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: but it is, and it's undeniable. This is as deceitful 145 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: and dishonest, as their pointless stunt was to shut the 146 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 4: government down. Democrats are using the Epstein tragedy, the unspeakable 147 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 4: evils that this guy committed with his trafficking ring and 148 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: all of the abuses that they that they made these 149 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 4: young women go through. They're using that as a political 150 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 4: weapon to try to distract from their failures as a 151 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: party and to try their best to try to tie 152 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 4: President Trump somehow into this wretched scandal. The President had 153 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 4: nothing to do with it. He's been very clear and 154 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 4: he has nothing to hide, and that's why he's endorsed 155 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 4: the vote today. 156 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: I think that's where we are. I think the President 157 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: is about to show all of his naysayers, detractors, haters. 158 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: They're haters, they're not detractors, and they're deranged. In many cases. 159 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: They hate him in a way that is that is irrational, 160 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: and that is extreme to the point of being unhealthy. 161 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: Trump Arrangement syndrome. But they're not going to ever say 162 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: that it's enough. You can never convince the people who 163 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: have been trying to dirty Trump up with Epstein that 164 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: there's not more to be found that would prove that 165 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: Trump is really the bad guy. So just be prepared 166 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: for that, and in fact, Chuck Schumer is out there 167 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: saying already that this is and this has cut three 168 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: one of the worst, most damaging moments of the Trump presidency. 169 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 5: This will go down as one of the most damaging 170 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 5: moments of Donald Trump's presidency. In trying so hard to 171 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 5: hide the truth, Donald Trump has provoked the fiercest rebellion 172 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 5: he's ever faced among his own supporters, both in Congress 173 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 5: and around the country. All the line, all the broken 174 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 5: promises about transparency, all the bullying and threats to members 175 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 5: of Congress who wanted these files released, it's all blown 176 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,239 Speaker 5: up in Donald Trump's face. His usual methods of intimidation 177 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 5: and dishonesty have failed spectacularly in this instance. 178 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: So we are to believe if you listen to Chuck 179 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: Schumer there, who's had a rough go of it lately, 180 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,239 Speaker 1: you know, the whole Schumer shut down disaster for him. Politically, 181 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: people are realizing the guy's too old. Whatever fastball used 182 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: to have is no longer there. Chuck Schumer is saying, 183 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: this is such a disaster. We are to believe that 184 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: the Biden doj which was on a jihad against Trump, 185 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: we are to believe that they had derogatory information about 186 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: Donald Trump while they were prosecuting him in a two 187 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: federal criminal trials that were, as we know, political, totally 188 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: politically motivate, but that they didn't release this. How does 189 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: that add up? You know, they never really address this. 190 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: They just didn't pay attention. It's not hard. You have 191 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: all these files, especially now with AI. I'm going to 192 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: tell you something. You could find Trump's name and find 193 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: every reference to him in seconds doing a simple search. 194 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: And you could use AI to find anything that even 195 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: vaguely is Trump adjacent in all these documents. So don't 196 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: tell me all they didn't have the manpower, they didn't 197 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: have the ability to figure this out. No, they're doing 198 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: this because for one thing, unfortunately, they have been successful 199 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 1: and completely changing the national political conversation away from the stupidity, 200 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: the selfishness, and the absurdity and the destruction of the 201 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: Schumer shutdown they've already managed. Notice, does it even feel 202 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: like we had a month long government shutdown for no 203 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: good reason except for a Democrat tantrum? Feels like it 204 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: was years ago now because they've completely shifted the conversation 205 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: that's already happened I can't stop it. You know, I 206 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: wish I had the power to direct the whole national conversation. 207 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: We've got millions of you who listen, but there's you know, 208 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty million people in the country when 209 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: you add all the illegals, something like that. So here 210 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: we are, and we're going to see Trump. We're going 211 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: to see Trump signing this, and then there's going to 212 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: be more files released and we'll continue to work through them. 213 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: I do not believe there will be a smoking gun. 214 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: I was actually on with Piers Morgan for his show 215 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: which will be airing later today, and Peers dramatically strenuously 216 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: disagrees with me on this. He thinks that there are 217 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: people who are going to go to prison over the 218 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: what's in the I completely I just don't see it, 219 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: because the DOJ then would have to admit that they 220 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: were holding files that should have brought prosecution for child 221 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: sex traffickers. Really, they're right at the deal. I mean, 222 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's impossible to believe the dj 223 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: would do that, but it's pretty extreme. That's that's quite 224 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: a stretch. And then they're going to release it and 225 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: have to say, oh yeah, we were covering up for 226 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: these guys. 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Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or 263 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 6: wherever you get your podcasts. 264 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back into the Clay and Buck Show. 265 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 7: As the name implies, there are two of us, but 266 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 7: some of us go on fancy International Man of mystery 267 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 7: tours and stuff their faces with delicious pasta and do 268 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 7: other cool things. 269 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: But they will call in from said mission. Mister Clay 270 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: Travis joins us. Tell us where you are first, Clay. 271 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 8: I am in Rome. 272 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 9: I'm overlooking the tomb of Augustus. And I got to 273 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 9: go and see the Pope today in the Vatican to 274 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 9: to you know, complete this this idea, yeah, that we had, 275 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 9: which I think was a pretty cool one to invite 276 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 9: the Pope to come to Chicago and throw out an 277 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 9: opening pitch for the Chicago White Sox. So all of 278 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 9: this has has happened. Today it's evening, getting ready to 279 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 9: go out and have some wine and have a good dinner. 280 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 9: But it was an awesome day. 281 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: So UH, that was. 282 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 9: The super secret trip. I didn't want to step on 283 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 9: anything about the about the process of getting that invite 284 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 9: out to the Pope. But UH got to meet the 285 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 9: ambassadors UH to Italy and the UH and the UH 286 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 9: Vatican City got to be there for the UH for 287 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 9: the offer to the Pope. 288 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: And UH. 289 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 9: There's video and UH and footage. I think that's going 290 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 9: to be up on OutKick soon that we'll try to 291 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 9: get shared with you guys. 292 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: So so you you have met with the pontiff. You're 293 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: not you're not a Catholic, right, Clay? I am not? Yeah, 294 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: and you're not. 295 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 9: And uh but it was it was a yes. 296 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 1: But certainly what I was gonna say is of people, 297 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: right for our Catholic audience is like a really really 298 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: big deal. You know, it would be amazing to be 299 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: able to actually meet the Pope in person. What was it? 300 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: Like? 301 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: I mean, take us through this, So it's did he 302 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: did he tell you that? You know, Nick Saban is 303 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: the greatest of all time? Like did he make a 304 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: sports choke? 305 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 9: Like? 306 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: Did he bless you? Take us? Take where did you 307 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: see him? You got to give us some of these details. 308 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 9: So on Wednesday they do a open public forum, a 309 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 9: sort of pope address in many different languages, you know, 310 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 9: with probably ten fifteen thousand people maybe more than that 311 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 9: in the in the square outside of Saint Peter's outdoor. 312 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: It was a great weather. 313 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 9: I believe they have a big public area down on 314 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 9: the in the in the larger sort of plaza there. 315 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 9: We were up close to the stage. He does all 316 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 9: of his all of his homily, his address in multiple 317 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 9: different languages, and then afterwards there are people that he greets. 318 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: And the new. 319 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 9: Owner of the Chicago White Sox happens to be a 320 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 9: law school classmate of mine, and we were a couple 321 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 9: of months ago sitting around trying to think of ways 322 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 9: that he could introduce himself to the people of Chicago. 323 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 9: And I had seen the JD Vance presents a Chicago 324 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 9: Bears jersey to the Pope, and I said, you know 325 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 9: what we should You should invite him to come and 326 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 9: throw out the first pitch at a proposed new stadium 327 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 9: that they are in the process of of working through 328 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 9: in Chicago for the White Sox. And that seems like 329 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 9: a good idea, And then the process of okay, well, 330 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 9: how do you get in touch with the Pope to 331 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 9: be able to get a meeting. He seems really really 332 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 9: excited at the idea. He got a For people out 333 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 9: there who are sports fans, the Chicago White Sox won 334 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 9: the World Series in two thousand and five and Pope Leo, 335 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 9: obviously not the Pope then, was in the crowd at 336 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 9: the World Series and so he's a huge White Sox fan. 337 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 9: And so my friend, the new owner, one of the 338 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 9: new owners soon to be officially the owner, got the 339 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 9: whole team from two thousand and five to sign a 340 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 9: White Sox jersey from that year, and then also conveyed 341 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 9: the offer to the Pope, you know, schedule permitting for 342 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 9: the Pope to come and throw out the first pitch 343 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 9: when they opened the stadium. Pope hasn't been, to my knowledge, 344 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 9: to Chicago since nineteen seventy nine. So again, this happened 345 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 9: early this morning in uh, in the Vatican and is 346 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 9: becoming a big story obviously in Chicago, and I think 347 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 9: a lot of people are finding it to be, uh, 348 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 9: just a you know, awesome, cool story in general. Uh overall, 349 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 9: if you are you know, there's not a particular political 350 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 9: connotation to it or anything like that, but if you 351 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 9: are a fan of sports, it's just kind of cool 352 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 9: to have an American pope and someone who is going 353 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 9: to to hopefully in the next couple of years be 354 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 9: able to come to Chicago and uh and and do 355 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 9: something incredibly unique and awesome in the in the city. 356 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: So that's kind of so the offer was made, but 357 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: we don't know, we we don't yet know if the 358 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: Pope is going to be able to do this. Is 359 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: that is that right? 360 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 9: Well? He just I mean the Pope's schedule, as one 361 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 9: might imagine, is very busy. He said that he wants 362 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 9: to do it. We've got to figure out exactly what 363 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 9: the date is, but it's kind of what I would 364 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 9: say as a conditional acceptance. He knew that the offer 365 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 9: was coming. He was excited to be able to get 366 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 9: the offer, to get the jersey, to be able to 367 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 9: meet and Uh, I think he's going to Uh. 368 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: I think he's. 369 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 9: Going to try and uh and and I mean he 370 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 9: said he's going to try and do it, so it 371 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 9: could it should be a pretty awesome event. 372 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: Look at you, globe trotting so like making just. 373 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 9: Trying to do good things and make the world a 374 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 9: little bit better place, as everyone assumes that I always 375 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 9: will be trying to. 376 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: Do and Clay Clay is uh is making his making 377 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: his moves over there at the Catholic Rock of Saint Peter, 378 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: that is the church. Uh So, now tell me what 379 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: you think about the epstein Foss since we got you 380 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: on the phone, says we got you. 381 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 9: I'm glad that everybody has voted to release him. Buck, 382 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 9: You've got the rest of the show. I am going 383 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 9: to have abundant amounts of wine tonight and have a 384 00:22:54,760 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 9: great dinner in Rome. Uh you you brought I hope that. 385 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: Uh, I'll handle it. I'll handle it. You go have 386 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: some gelato with Laura and the kids. Go have fun 387 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: and very cool. Congratulations on the meeting with the Pope, 388 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: and thank you sir. Come come back Friday or Monday, 389 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: whatever you got. We'll see you then. Okay, we'll do 390 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: I'll see you, have fun, mat have a good dinner. 391 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: So I they said, there you go. Clay met the Pope. 392 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: So there's that, and that was why he was. He 393 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: was gone this week. It's very exciting, very exciting. The Pope. 394 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: Also we did have I was going to read the 395 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: email from from Sissy who said that that's what she 396 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: thought was happening. And that's a pretty remarkable, pretty remarkable call. 397 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: She said, I'm looking forward to hearing the details of 398 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: Clay's super secret trip on the show. My guess is 399 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: he got a once in a lifetime interview with the 400 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: Pope since he's a baseball fan, just a wild guest. 401 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: There you go, you nailed it, and Sissy, we got 402 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: your follow up. Ema, Oh my goodness, I got it correct, 403 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: Clay in the Pope. Maybe I should buy a lottery tickets. 404 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: So we did, and that was before Clay tweeted about 405 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: this or put it out on x But this was 406 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: before that happened. Clay was supposed to reveal this on 407 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: the show, but he's Clay. He does whatever he wants. 408 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: So there we are team, Why don't we Because we're 409 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: gonna have kind of a hard turn coming up here 410 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: into the world of from meeting with the Pope to 411 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: the release of the Epstein files. We have a little 412 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: bit of a transition to do, and we'll rack and 413 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: stack some calls and some talkbacks on this one, because 414 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: I think that what we are seeing is hopefully what 415 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: many of you have been demanding all along. We also 416 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: have the White House weighing in on the filibuster via 417 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: Caroline Levitt and Trump really rolling out the red carpet 418 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: for the Saudi leadership, which is something that I think 419 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: this is a good thing for the region, a good 420 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: thing for America, for the Middle East, I mean good 421 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: thing for America. I think you might see a normalization 422 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: of relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia under this Trump presidency, 423 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: furthering the Abraham Accords, and I think you might see 424 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: the big move in the Middle East with regard to that, 425 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: and Trump is trying to bring that about. Of course, 426 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: there are the detractors, the haters out there, the people 427 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: who are upset that Trump would sit with the head 428 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: of state of a country that, whether we want to 429 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: deal with the Saudis or not, is critical to our 430 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: energy infrastructure or rather energy market, and we really don't 431 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: have a choice. So why not have a constructive relationship 432 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: with the Saudis. Why not try to encourage them to yes, 433 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: invest in America, which is a huge focus from Trump, 434 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: but also to do what they can to liberalize. I 435 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: know Saudi Arabia is an autocracy. I'm fully aware of 436 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: the and I know about the past with Saudi Arabia's 437 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: role in unfortunately exporting the what we used to refer 438 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: to very much as the Wahabist ideology, which is a 439 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: radical interpretation of Islam setting up Wahabist mosques all over 440 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: the world. They've moved away from that. They've become a 441 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: constructive partner for security in the region, and they're making 442 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: overtures toward a better relationship with Israel, and that would 443 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: be very helpful for Middle East peace and stability. So 444 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: that's why that's going on. Also, something else, we're gonna 445 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: have Michael Watley joining us later. He's running for Senate 446 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: up there in North Carolina, a very important Senate seat. 447 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: And there's some major immigration enforcement operations underway in North Carolina. 448 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: That there's pushback of course from Democrats. What's really going 449 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: on there? When I tell you I have some stats, 450 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: When I tell you how many kids are are staying 451 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: home because of immigration illegal alien immigration enforcement in North Carolina, 452 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna be pretty shocked. And it gives 453 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: you a sense of how enormous the scale of illegal 454 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: immigration is and the costs associated with this. You are 455 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: paying for this, especially if you live in North Carolina, 456 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: live in these districts where the kids are staying home. 457 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: You're paying for English as a second language training in 458 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: these schools. You are bringing in students from abroad who 459 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: are going to be far beyond, a far behind. We 460 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: already through the Americans behind grade level, we mean way 461 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: behind grade level, and hold the rest of the class back. 462 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: I mean, think about this, if English is not their 463 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: first language and then they're put in these classrooms. There's 464 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: just so much going on here. We'll talk to Michael 465 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: Waltley about the immigration enforcement component of this coming up. 466 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: And like I said, we'll get to your calls here 467 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: Epstein files. Trump is signing it. Congress has said, all right, 468 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: you're getting the files. Is this good enough? Is assuming 469 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: it happens? 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That's 494 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: rapid Radios dot Com. 495 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 6: Want to begin to know when you're on the go. 496 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 6: The Team forty seven podcasts Trump Highlights from the week 497 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 6: Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clayanbug podcast feed. Find 498 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 6: it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 499 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: Let's talk about what's going on in North Carolina. Our 500 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: guest here, Michael Wattley, running for a critical Senate seat there. Michael, 501 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us here calling in. Tell us what 502 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: has been going on with your state when it comes 503 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: to illegal immigration enforcement. There's been some very interesting exchanges 504 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm seeing online. 505 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 8: Yeah. Well, the biggest thing to kind of table set 506 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 8: for all of your listeners. Is the fact that my opponent, 507 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 8: Roy Cooper, when he was the governor of North Carolina, 508 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 8: vetoed legislation which would have forced sheriffs to honor ICE 509 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 8: detainers and move violent criminal illegal aliens out of the state. 510 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 8: And so now we have a system where we have 511 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 8: a revolving door that's putting these criminals back on the street. 512 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 8: They are not being deported, and ICE has come in 513 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 8: to make a number of arrests and help clean up 514 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 8: the mess that Roy Cooper has created in North Carolina. 515 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: People who are trying to get a sense of the 516 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: scale of the illegal immigration issue. I don't know if 517 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: you saw this, It was being shared broadly online. This 518 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: number that in the Charlotte Public School system earlier this 519 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: week there were twenty one thousand. Now apparently the CMS 520 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: data is not finalized yet, but basically twenty one thousand 521 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: students miss school in just the Charlotte Public School District 522 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: on Monday, which they say is fifteen percent. I mean, 523 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: this is this is kind of stunning. I think that 524 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: that many kids are affected by because they have legal 525 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,479 Speaker 1: immigrant parents. What's going on here? What can you tell 526 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: us about this? 527 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 7: Well? 528 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 8: I think it's stunning. That when you look at the 529 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 8: you know, millions of illegal immigrants that came across the 530 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 8: border during Joe Biden's administration, ten fifteen million immigrants that 531 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 8: came across. Hundreds of thousands of them were known criminals 532 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 8: who had records, and they still were released into you know, 533 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 8: states like North Carolina. The fact is that North Carolina 534 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 8: should not be a border state, but we are a 535 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 8: border state. And so you know, when we think about 536 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 8: having ice come in and be able to take these 537 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 8: people off the street, and they're saying, you know, there've 538 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 8: been over two hundred plus arrests so far. You know, 539 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 8: these are people who've been arrested who have criminal records, 540 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 8: that people who are wanted for criminal records and need 541 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 8: to be deported. It is absolutely a dereliction of duty 542 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 8: for you know, the sheriff of Mecklenburg County, sheriffs of 543 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 8: of Wake County, which is Raleigh, or you know, Durham 544 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 8: County uh to to not honor these ice detainers. And 545 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 8: it was a dereliction of duty for Roy Cooper to 546 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 8: veto legislation. Would it have forced them to be able 547 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 8: to do that? 548 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: What kind of drain on the budget has it been 549 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: for the state of North Carolina to have And can 550 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: you give us a sense there are some places we 551 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: think about illegal immigration a lot, right you think about 552 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: New York City and the state of California, Texas, you know, 553 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: places along the border the Carolinas don't necessarily come to 554 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: mind right away. But can you give some sense of 555 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: the of the scale and and also the cost for 556 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: the people of your state about illegal immigration uh and 557 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: and how much of an issue it has become. 558 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 8: Well, it's a huge issue, you know when you talk 559 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 8: about UH, you know, the federal programs in the state 560 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 8: programs UH to be able to help our needy. And 561 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 8: the fact that we have you know, millions of people 562 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 8: around the country illegal aliens that were on medicaid, the 563 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 8: fact that we actually had to pass legislation as part 564 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 8: of the One Big Beautiful Bill to take illegal aliens 565 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 8: and say that they cannot be on medicaid, and the 566 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 8: fact that the Democrats were fighting extremely hard to try 567 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 8: and put you know, those provisions back into place. When 568 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 8: we look at food stamps, we look at at the 569 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 8: wick programs, we look at you know, schools and and 570 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 8: all of the other costs that are out there. The 571 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 8: societal costs for services for illegal aliens is absolutely stupefying, 572 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 8: and it is it is remarkable that that Democrats in 573 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 8: North Carolina and around the country, including Roy Cooper, want 574 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 8: to fight harder for illegal aliens than they do their 575 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 8: own constituents. 576 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: Speaking to Michael Wattley, former R and C chair and 577 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: candidate for Senate in North Carolina, I know it's technically 578 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: early in that cycle, Michael, but the Republican Party has 579 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: already been, you know, moving forward with your candidacy, trying 580 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: to trying to back back things up, back you up 581 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: in this because I think they recognize, Man, the Democrats, 582 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: what kind of money are they going to put behind 583 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: Roy Cooper to try to get this Senate see. 584 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 8: Well, it's going to be the most expensive Senate race 585 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 8: in the history of the country. We've seen estimates that 586 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 8: this could be as high as six hundred to eight 587 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 8: hundred million dollars that will be spent in North Carolina. 588 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 8: We know that Democrats are going to pour hundreds of 589 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 8: millions of dollars into the race. It's it's really they're 590 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 8: they're one of two pick up opportunities that they have 591 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 8: all around the country. Susan Collins up in Maine being 592 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 8: the other one. And the fact is, we're going to 593 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 8: have the support of President Trump, We're going to have 594 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 8: the support of the grassroots, We're going to have the support, 595 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 8: you know, from people all across North Carolina to be 596 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 8: able to go toe to toe with that out of 597 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 8: state money. But you know, we we look at, you know, 598 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 8: the amount of money that Roy Cooper is going to 599 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 8: be able to bring in from around the country, and 600 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 8: it's not daunting because as we saw in the last 601 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 8: election cycle, President Trump got outspent by a billion dollars. 602 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 8: Kamala Harris, you know, raised and spent you know, two 603 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 8: point five billion dollars, but she had a terrible message. 604 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 8: And you know, good policy is good politics. So we're 605 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 8: going to win this race even if we're outspent, because 606 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 8: we're going to be focused on creating jobs and raising wages. 607 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 8: We're going to be focused on keeping our kids in 608 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 8: our community safe, and obviously this current conversation is a 609 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 8: big part of that. And we're also going to focus 610 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 8: on making sure that our men and women in uniform 611 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 8: have what they need to protect our interests in our 612 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 8: allies around the world. 613 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to let you react to Josh Stein, the 614 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: governor of North Carolina. Here, Michael, this has cut seventeen 615 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: on our on our sheet team. He's he's saying, well, 616 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: I'll let everybody hear what he's saying, play seventeen. 617 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 10: We've seen masks, heavily armed agents and paramilitary garb driving 618 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 10: unmarked cars, targeting American citizens based on their skin color, 619 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 10: racially profiling and picking up random people in parking lots 620 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 10: and off of our sidewalks, going after landscaper simply decorating 621 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 10: a Christmas tree in someone's front yard, and entering churches 622 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 10: and stores to grab people. This is not making us safer. 623 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 10: It's stoking fear and dividing our community. We are a 624 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 10: nation of immigrants, and our state and this country is 625 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 10: stronger because. 626 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: Of our immigrant communities. 627 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 10: Unfortunately, our immigration system is broken, but rather than fix it, 628 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 10: the federal government continues to play politics with it. 629 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: So Governor Stein in North Carolina, Michael, does he get 630 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: all of his talking points from MSNBC? How does that work? 631 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 9: Yeah? 632 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 8: Absolutely? I mean that is lock stock and barrel, the 633 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 8: messaging platform from the far left, the progressive radical left. 634 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 8: The fact is, if Roy Cooper had signed that legislation 635 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 8: and Griff had honored their ICE detainers, then we probably 636 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 8: would not need to have President Trump sending his administration 637 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 8: down here and taking these people off of the streets. 638 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 8: Nobody can dispute the fact that the hundreds of arrests 639 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 8: that have been made are people who have criminal records 640 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 8: and should not be walking the streets, whether it's in 641 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 8: Charlotte or Raleigh or anywhere else in North Carolina. And 642 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 8: the fact is that there are thousands of people who 643 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 8: are in North Carolina jails right now that are not 644 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 8: being turned over to ICE when they are illegal aliens. 645 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 8: Is a huge problem. That is the fault of Roy 646 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 8: Cooper is a total failure of leadership on his part. 647 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: Now, Roy Cooper, your opponent in the Senate race, is 648 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: going to be trying to convince everybody that, you know, 649 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: he's a pragmatic Democrat, one of the reasonable Democrats. Right. 650 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we're seeing right now in real time what 651 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 1: that actually means on say, illegal immigration and the enforcement 652 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: underway from the Trump administration. Democrats are expecting to pretend 653 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: that this is like the East German Stazi picking up 654 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: innocent people off the streets. Whatever. Where are some other 655 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: key areas of difference between what you would bring the 656 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: United States Senate versus Roy Cooper. Just so we have 657 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: a huge audience all across North Carolina, I want them 658 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: to hear from you how you two guys would be 659 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: markedly different and what that would mean in the United 660 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 1: States Senate. 661 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 8: Well, we certainly could talk about the fact that he 662 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 8: vetoed six different bills with tax cuts, bounce budgets, police 663 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 8: pay raises, and teacher pay raises. And we can talk 664 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,439 Speaker 8: about the legislation that he vetoed that would have kept 665 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 8: boys out of girls sports and men out of women's 666 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 8: locker rooms. But I think that probably the most important 667 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 8: thing that we're going to need to talk about is 668 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 8: keeping our kids in our communities safe. And Roy Cooper, 669 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 8: when he was the governor in twenty twenty, when we 670 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 8: had Antifa and BLM riding all across North Carolina, was 671 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 8: out there marching with them in protest, and also signed 672 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 8: an executive order that basically created cashlest bail and pre 673 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 8: trial release in North Carolina, created a revolving door for 674 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 8: all of our criminals and led to violent crime spikes 675 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 8: in all major North Carolina cities. And that that is 676 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 8: the reason why we had to ren A Zeroska, a 677 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 8: beautiful young lady who was murdered in Charlotte has kind 678 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 8: of been held up as the most vivid example where 679 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 8: her murderer had been arrested fourteen different times and released 680 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 8: under Roy Cooper's soft on crime policies. That we need 681 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 8: to keep our kids in our community safe. That is 682 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 8: the number one function for any government, whether it's state, local, 683 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 8: or federal, and we need, ultimately to have policies that 684 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 8: are going to be set at the federal level to 685 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 8: keep our kids in community safe, and we cannot trust 686 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 8: Roy Cooper with it. But at the end of the day, 687 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 8: this is going to come down to a vote in 688 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 8: the Senate and whether we're going to have somebody who 689 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 8: will be an ally for President Trump and stand up 690 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 8: for the conservative values of North Carolina, or are we 691 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 8: going to have a radical progressive, a card carrying member 692 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 8: of the woke mob like Roy Cooper. And ultimately, at 693 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 8: the end of the day, North Carolina is going to 694 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 8: side with North Carolina values. They do not want a 695 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 8: candidate who's going to fight every day harder for criminals 696 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,280 Speaker 8: and illegal aliens than he is his own constituents. 697 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: Well, Michael, make sure that you keep in touch with 698 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: us here and our team so that as you get 699 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: deeper into this race and you have i'm sure a 700 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: debate that will happen with Roy Cooper. You know, we 701 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: want to get the word out and continue to talk 702 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: about this one because, as you point out, it's North 703 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: Carolina and Maine that are the big targets for Democrat pickups. 704 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: So hundreds of millions of dollars going to be spent 705 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: against you. A lot of it's going to come from 706 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: Nalabu and Manhattan. 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It plays into some broader 738 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: narratives and concerns that we have. One is this Pew 739 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: Pole Pew Research Center came out just a few days ago, 740 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: and it's making the rounds now that twelfth grade girls 741 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: are less likely than twelfth grade boys to say they 742 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: actually want to get married someday. Now more overall of 743 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: twelfth graders, so these are roughly eight like eighteen year 744 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: olds right a summer seventeen, summer nineteen, but twelfth graders, 745 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: I think are basically eighteen eighteen to nineteen. More of 746 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: them say they would not get married someday, but not 747 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: a lot more. But the thing that I found more 748 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: interesting about the data here, and this is also the 749 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: kind of polling where I think it. I don't think 750 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: it's hard to do this pretty accurately. I think that 751 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: you're asking for people's opinions. They're easy enough to find. 752 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: They're going to share these opinions, So it's not some 753 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: political incentive to mess with this data. It's not like 754 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: an election or something. So I think that what's there's 755 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: there's something that's concerning here and something that I actually 756 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: find encouraging. I'll start with the concerning side of this, 757 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 1: the concerning side of it now, is that sixty one 758 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: percent of girls say that they want to get married someday. 759 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,879 Speaker 1: As if I'm reading this data correctly, boys are more 760 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,479 Speaker 1: likely than girls to say they want to get married 761 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 1: some day seventy four percent versus sixty one percent. Only 762 00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: sixty one percent of girls say they want to get married. 763 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: What is going on here? Well, I think we know 764 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: what's going on unfortunately our society, and I think, look, 765 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:16,240 Speaker 1: I've only I've only been around for a certain period 766 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: of time, as you know. But for my entire adult life, 767 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: to be sure, there has been this I call it 768 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,399 Speaker 1: like the Sex and the City Sex and the City effect, 769 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: the boss boss girl stuff. There has been a very 770 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: clear effort in our culture, a broad, broad effort in 771 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 1: our culture to tell young women to act like men, 772 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: not to pretend they're men. That's that's also happening. That's 773 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: a separate issue, right, that's the trends thing. But to 774 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 1: engage socially, certainly professionally as men do, and to view 775 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: dating and lookup culture the way that men do, and 776 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: to instead of having legal equality and illegal right to 777 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: choose their own destiny, they should view themselves more as 778 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: equal as in the same as men and young women 779 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: are not the same as young men. You and I 780 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 1: know this is not a recipe for long term happiness 781 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 1: for women. This is not going to result in good 782 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 1: life choices for most of the women. There are always exceptions. 783 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: We're talking about roughly, you know, a big chunk of 784 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: humanity here. We're talking about women in the eighteen to 785 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 1: thirty year old age age range here. But I'll tell 786 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: you I know this just from if we want to 787 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: get anecdotal. I know so many women who are my 788 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 1: age now, they're in their forties that I grew up 789 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: with in New York and they had nothing but options, 790 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: and a lot of them are not married, and they're 791 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 1: never going to have families now, And what do we 792 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: What would I say to them if they wanted to 793 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: hear my opinion on this, which I don't think they do. 794 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: They're probably not listening to this show. But they were 795 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: completely misled by the culture. They were put down a 796 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,399 Speaker 1: pathway that was very likely to cause misery. And they're 797 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 1: even little small things along the way here. I remember 798 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,280 Speaker 1: when I was when I was graduating from college, everybody 799 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: around me wanted to work at an investment bank or 800 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: a management consultant. Firm. Maybe that was an It's not 801 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: just an AMAS thing though, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth, Amhers Williams, 802 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 1: you know, Haverford, Stanford, Duke, all these plays. Everybody wants 803 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: to they want you want to come out of school. 804 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: You want to make one hundred and fifty grand your 805 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: first year out of school, which is what you can 806 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: make at some of these places as a twenty two 807 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: twenty three year old. And so that was what everybody 808 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,760 Speaker 1: wanted to do. But the hours, especially in the investment 809 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: banking side, were absolutely miserable and brutal. Eighty ninety hour 810 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: weeks expected. That was I mean, if you weren't going 811 00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: to sign up for that. And I just remember thinking, 812 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: I was like, how many of the young women that 813 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 1: I knew in that class, really, why do they want 814 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: to do that? And this some way say this is 815 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: going to sound sexist. It's not sexist. It's just an 816 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: objective view of reality. Men and women have different biological 817 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: timelines that they're operating under. That is just a fact. 818 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: Young women putting themselves in the cubicle farm from age 819 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: twenty two to you know, thirty, to try to make 820 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: VP at Goldman Sacks and grinding away indoors and do 821 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 1: all this stuff. Should they be able to do this 822 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: if they choose absolutely? Is this going to make most 823 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 1: of them happy? Well, I can tell you none of 824 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: the ones that I knew lasted. None of them did 825 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: it a couple of years, maybe stayed, stayed in finance, 826 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 1: and they all stopped because guys work overwhelmingly. Why do 827 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 1: guys work in finance? Why do guys do any job 828 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 1: where they can try to make a comfortable living Because 829 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 1: they want want to be an attractive partner, a mate, 830 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: husband for a woman, so they can provide for a family. 831 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: And you know, this is why these guys put themselves 832 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: through this. And you know the data on the other 833 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: side of this is also very clear. They've run these 834 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: experiments and you don't even have to do you just 835 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,359 Speaker 1: think through the experiment. Guy sees a beautiful woman, a 836 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 1: beautiful woman, she's wearing a power suit. She's a boss babe. 837 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 1: Guy sees the same woman in a different context, she's 838 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 1: wearing a McDonald's uniform. The percentage of guys who care 839 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: about this is very small, very small, just a fact, 840 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: just the truth. They've done these They've done these experiments before. 841 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: You know, and and we have led so many of 842 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: these women down this young women down this pathway. And 843 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: it's my generation that I think it is. I'm a 844 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm a graybeard millennial. I do have grand my beard. 845 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm a gray beard millennial. My generation was just DEI 846 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,720 Speaker 1: and a boss babe, sex and the city stuff just 847 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 1: just decimated. Certainly the people people who grew up in 848 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: the big cities and were around this really inundated with 849 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,879 Speaker 1: this culture. And and it's still happening. These young women, 850 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, you don't don't want to get married. I mean, 851 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,240 Speaker 1: you can sit and watch all these interviews that there 852 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,919 Speaker 1: there's some very actually good podcasters who do these long 853 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: form interviews with CEOs who were wildly successful. And one 854 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: thing I've never heard and these different some of these 855 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: hosts the diary of a CEO guy. There's others. They're 856 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 1: always told the same thing about these guys who have 857 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: more money thany know what to do with more success, 858 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: they know what to do with if they had to regret, 859 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: it was I wish I spent more time with my family. 860 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 1: And if they're asked what they're most proud of, and 861 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,800 Speaker 1: they have a family, you know what they say they're family. 862 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: I mean, this is all very very much there for 863 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: so I really think that there need to be more 864 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: voices speaking to you. Young women are not going to 865 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,959 Speaker 1: some of you. By the way, very glad you're listening 866 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,839 Speaker 1: to the show. But I don't know if a forty 867 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,240 Speaker 1: three year old guy telling women about their life choices 868 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,760 Speaker 1: is going to resonate with you know, twenty somethings who 869 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 1: love Taylor Swift, Like, I understand that may not be 870 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: my prime demographic for my message, but we need more 871 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 1: women who can speak effectively to them. And it's for 872 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 1: their own good because they're being led down a pathway 873 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 1: that is not turning out well. And the fact that 874 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 1: you're getting close to almost half of women don't want 875 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: to get married, young women, eighteen year old women, they 876 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: don't want to get married. Now you could say, oh, 877 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 1: maybe they still want to have kids, and I would 878 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,280 Speaker 1: say to that, you're gonna have kids. You should get married, Okay, 879 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 1: you should. You should have a stable family. Formation shouldn't 880 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 1: do the shouldn't do this, the baby mama thing, or 881 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 1: the shouldn't do this. Yeah, Prouser ally tells me some 882 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 1: people are getting mad at Taylor Swift for getting married. No, no, no, 883 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 1: this is this is very bad message they have. Okay, 884 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 1: on the good, so that's on the bad side of things. Women, 885 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 1: young women are being absolutely brainwashed, misled. It's terrible. I 886 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,879 Speaker 1: see it every way. And the results are just going 887 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: to be a lot of a lot of misery for 888 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: them later in life or a lot of regret. I 889 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 1: should say, you know, people can find purpose and a 890 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: lot of things. And I'm not saying you can't find 891 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 1: purpose without a family, and certainly not saying you can't 892 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: find purpose without having children, and a lot of people 893 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: have difficulty having children. But we're talking it's like policy, 894 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: what is going to bring the greatest happiness results for 895 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: the greatest number of people getting married, having a family, 896 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: pursuing a life where you are focused day to day 897 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 1: outside of your own needs and wants. It's so important. 898 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 1: It's so important to have things that you care about. 899 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 1: Relationship with God, your wife, your husband, your kids, your 900 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 1: immediate family, you know, your family member that you're a 901 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: caretaker or taking care of. You have to care a 902 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 1: cause that's actually worthy, not like climate change, but an 903 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: actually worthy cause. You have to care about things beyond 904 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: yourself because otherwise you'll just go through the scale of 905 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: hedonic adaptation. Things get better, you get used to it. Materially, 906 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 1: things get better. You don't care anymore, you know. I 907 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: was recently out with a guy is a friend of 908 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 1: a friend, very nice guy, and I'm not putting him down, 909 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: but I just thought it was kind of funny. There's 910 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 1: a car called a Pegani, which I think is costs 911 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,959 Speaker 1: like four million dollars six minutes a car. It costs 912 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 1: millions of dollars. I don't know producer rally google what 913 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 1: a Pegani costs. It's absurd. And this guy has eight 914 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 1: of them. And let me tell you something, the ninth Pegani, 915 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna lose it, So it doesn't even care. Right, 916 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: you reach this point where that stuff doesn't matter. You 917 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: have to find meaning and other things, meaning things outside 918 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 1: of your immediate needs at once. On the upside though, 919 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 1: of this, saying pupil, the fact that young men and 920 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: I love it's a huge problem for the Democrat Party. 921 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 1: It's a huge problem for the woke left. Young men 922 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 1: have gotten the message. Young men realize toxic masculinity is 923 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:18,239 Speaker 1: a toxic ideology of nonsense. They have realized that that 924 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 1: the suppression of traits and within masculinity, bravery, courage, aggression 925 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,879 Speaker 1: concentrated in the right ways, you know, that the suppression 926 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 1: of these things. Wanting to be the leader of a family, 927 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,840 Speaker 1: wanting to be the leader of a of a of 928 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,399 Speaker 1: a community, well and whatever way that is. I want 929 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 1: to be a leader in the workplace. That the suppression 930 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 1: of that is just absolute nonsense and really destructive. And 931 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 1: young men are realizing this is why they are turning 932 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 1: away from the Democrat Party. That's why young men are 933 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 1: increasingly going back to For those those who are Christian 934 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: going back to church, they want more. They want to lead, 935 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 1: They want to be spiritual leaders. They want to be 936 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 1: people that they want to be someone that though their 937 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 1: wife can count on, yes, to defend them, to protect 938 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 1: them physically, but also emotionally and spiritually, to be there for. 939 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 1: We want to have our roles. We want to pursue 940 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 1: the best of what it is to be a man. 941 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: Young men want to get married in greater numbers. According 942 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,880 Speaker 1: to Pew. They want to be masculine, not you know, 943 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,839 Speaker 1: just oh, I'm shooting up a lot of steroids and 944 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 1: you know I look like he man or whatever. No, 945 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 1: it's about fulfilling their masculine imperative, their masculine destiny to 946 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:53,399 Speaker 1: be men, that they become good men. They get it 947 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 1: in greater numbers, and it's just because of the failure 948 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: of what the left is offering, undermining and the hypocrisy 949 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 1: and the smugness of our culture of leftism and liberalism 950 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 1: and all this other nonsense that's just constantly degrading and 951 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 1: pulling men down. They see it, and they've had enough, 952 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 1: and they know there's something better. And I just truly 953 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 1: hope that the young women of America are on the 954 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:29,840 Speaker 1: precipice of a similar renaissance, a similar rebirth of understanding. 955 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 1: But I'm not sure. I worry women have been greatly 956 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,280 Speaker 1: misled and the damage is just beginning, I think, to 957 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,720 Speaker 1: set in for many of them. 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