1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Hey Bam, Hello Sunshine. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: Today on the bright Side, we're counting down to the Olympics. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: We have a special guest, NBC correspondent Rebecca Low. She'll 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: be covering the Olympics in Paris this month, and she's 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: here to share insider tips on who to watch and 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: what to expect. It's Monday, July fifteenth. I'm Danielle Robe and. 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 3: I'm Simone Boyce and this is the bright Side from 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we come together to 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 3: share women's stories, to laugh, learn and brighten your day. 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: Happy Monday, y'all, Happy Monday. 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: I had such a fun, sunshine filled weekend. 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: It was hot in la. 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 3: I am so not ready for summer to end. I'm 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: trying to stay in the moment. Just go to the beach, 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 3: go in the pool. Summer is just the best. I 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: love it, Simone. 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: I took a hike with Julisa this weekend and we 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: went early and we almost burned up here. 19 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: I will tell you that. Yes, and it's getting hotter 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 3: by the year. But for now, we are looking forward 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 3: to a great week and we're kicking things off with 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: on my Mind Monday. This is our opportunity to share 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: the stories that motivate us, inspire curiosity, and provide a 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: fresh perspective to our week. So you guys already know 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: I love this UK publication, Stylist magazine because they always 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: have such great think pieces. And I recently came across 27 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: an article that's all about building a growth mindset. Danielle, 28 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: do you abide by this term? Like, what does that 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 3: term make you think of when you hear growth mindset? 30 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? For sure. 31 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: I think I learned about this like five or six 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: years ago from reading a book. I remember when Reese 33 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: Witherspoon came on here for our first episode. She told 34 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: us about the moment that her life changed, and she 35 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: said she started doing inner work and reading every book 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: she could find. And I had such a similar moment 37 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: in my twenties, and that's when I came across a 38 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: growth mindset, which is basically the belief that you can 39 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 2: grow and improve and that hard work and dedication and 40 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 2: repetition and consistency over time can get you to where 41 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: you want to go. 42 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 4: That's exactly right. 43 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 3: I think we both definitely have a growth mindset, and 44 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: it's something that I also discovered a few years ago 45 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: through reading a book that was all about the power 46 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: of having a positive mindset manifestation, if you want to 47 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 3: call it that. 48 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: So that's what this article is all about. 49 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: Growth mindset is just the idea that talent can be 50 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: developed through consistency and learning. And then, to take it 51 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: a step further, by having a growth mindset, you're more 52 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: likely to believe that you can achieve what you want, 53 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: which in turn makes you more motivated, focused, and ultimately 54 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: more likely to succeed and get where you want to go. 55 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 3: And then on the flip side, the opposite of a 56 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: growth mindset is a fixed mindset, this idea that talent 57 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 3: is innate and static, or even worse, believing that you're 58 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 3: destined to fail, which of course is just going to 59 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 3: stifle innovation and opportunity. And I think it's really helpful 60 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: to think about this framework not just as an individual, 61 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: but also as an entrepreneur. 62 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 4: For any of our bright. 63 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: Side besties who have employees out there, if you create 64 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: a growth mindset environment for your employees, they're more than 65 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: thirty percent likely or to feel a strong sense of 66 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: loyalty to your company, to your mission. That's according to 67 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: the Harvard Business Review. 68 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 2: If anybody out there is curious about this topic. There's 69 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: a book called The Talent Code by Daniel Coyle. 70 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 4: I love this book. 71 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: Oh it's it's short, it's a quick read. It's so 72 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: freaking good. 73 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 4: It's so good. 74 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: He gives you like things that you can actually do 75 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: to practice this. So do you think there's any ways 76 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: that we can practice having a growth mindset? 77 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: I think a key ingredient here is taking inspiration from others. 78 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: I can remember a conversation that I had with one 79 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: of my best friends that really unlocked a growth mindset 80 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: for me. I had been in a job that I 81 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: didn't like for many years and wanted to make a 82 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: move and go out on my own. And my friend 83 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: said to me, Simone, you are stuck in an employee 84 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: mindset and you need to break out of that and 85 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 3: have a self employed mindset. So I think just having 86 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: people around you who can give you those little nudges 87 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: and reminders that is so key. 88 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: I love that, Simone. 89 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: There's also like this quote, you can't be what you 90 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: can't see, and I think that's part of it. Like 91 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: if you surround yourself with people who are thinking differently 92 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: than you, it's so contagious and the best way. And 93 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: I think also to add, there's an element here of curiosity, 94 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: and it's just getting curious about your life, getting curious 95 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: about your relationships, about yourself. I think it all starts 96 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 2: with just with asking yourself some questions. 97 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: I couldn't agree more. 98 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 3: And one more thing that the piece identified that I 99 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 3: thought was really interesting is the importance of learning to 100 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 3: accept failure as a necessary part of growth the best. 101 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 3: So working to reframe failure as essential to having a 102 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 3: growth mindset. So instead of looking at failure as a 103 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 3: reason to give up, looking at it as part of 104 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 3: the process and just a necessary step to getting what 105 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,119 Speaker 3: you want. I've always found that failures offers such huge 106 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: learnings for me. 107 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: I interviewed an entrepreneur one time named Encore Jane, and 108 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: he actually doesn't even use the word failure. He uses 109 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: the word pivot because for entrepreneurs, and I think this 110 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: is a mindset more so than just for entrepreneurs, but 111 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: there is no failure because whatever happens leads you into 112 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: the next thing. So on that note, we are talking 113 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: about athletes today who have this growth mindset. You can't 114 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: not have it when you are an Olympic athlete learning 115 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: to accept failure or pivots and not letting fear hold 116 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: you back is at the core of these Olympic athletes. 117 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Sin, today's guest is actually going to be on 118 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: the ground in Paris covering the Olympics this summer, so 119 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: she might have an idea of the kind of mindset 120 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 3: you need to take home the gold for sure. 121 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: Rebecca Lowe is an NBC daytime host and the host 122 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: of NBC Sports Premier League coverage. She'll be attending and 123 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: covering the Olympics for the sixth time this year. 124 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 4: I mean, true Olympic royalty. 125 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 3: What I think is so amazing about the Olympics is, 126 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: you know, it's not just about these spectacular athletic feats. 127 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: We all love watching those moments in real time, but 128 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 3: it's also the personal stories. I mean, the sacrifices that 129 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: these athletes have to make, that their families have to make, 130 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 3: to overcome so much to get to where they are. 131 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: I mean, we see them perform, but there's so much 132 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: that goes on behind the scenes that we'll never get 133 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: to see. 134 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: And Rebecca Lowe is going to be those eyes and 135 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 2: ears on the ground because you know, she's been following 136 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: some of these athletes from the very beginning of their careers. 137 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: She's interviewed these women over time, and she's watched them 138 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: when the cameras are not turned on, so she has 139 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: a really unique vantage point. She can talk triumphs, comebacks, 140 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 2: and the emerging athletes, the ones that we got to watch. 141 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: And best of all, she's offering this real human perspective 142 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: on all of the powerhouse female athletes that we'll be 143 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: rooting for. 144 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,119 Speaker 4: I can't wait. 145 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: We are going to take a quick break and when 146 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: we come back, we're talking Shikerrie Richardson, Simone Biles, the 147 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: women's soccer team, and the brightest new athletes competing this 148 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: summer that you need to know about. 149 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the bright Side. 150 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: We have Rebecca Low with us today to kick off 151 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: our road to the Olympics coverage. 152 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: That's right, Rebecca lo Is, an NBC daytime host who'll 153 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: be covering the games from Paris. 154 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 4: Rebecca, Welcome to the bright Side. 155 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 5: Simone Danielle, thank you so much for having me. This 156 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 5: is going to be fun. 157 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 4: Rebecca. 158 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: You are essentially Olympics Royalty at this point, because this 159 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: will be year six time attending and covering the games 160 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: is the excitement still the same each time. Are you 161 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: jaded or do you just walk into that environment like 162 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: with the enthusiasm of a little kid still, Oh. 163 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 5: My goodness, not Jaded's mown at all. I kind of 164 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 5: go through waves of different emotions in the build up 165 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 5: to the Olympics. I do soccer, that's my regular job, 166 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 5: and I finished that season in May, so whenever it's 167 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 5: a summer Olympics, I have sort of two months leading 168 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 5: up and in some ways it feels forever a way, 169 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 5: and then of course it comes up so quickly. But 170 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 5: in that two months I go through all sorts of 171 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 5: different emotions. Often it's nerves, because every new challenge, even 172 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 5: though I've done Olympics before, is still a new challenge. 173 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 5: This coming Olympics, I'm going to be co hosting the 174 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 5: Daytime Show with Craig Melvin from The Today Show, which 175 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 5: will be so fun. But we've never worked together before, 176 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 5: so we're sort of trying to create a chemistry, you know, 177 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 5: over the phone and trying to get to know each other. 178 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 5: And then as I get closer. It was funny because 179 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 5: yesterday morning I said to my husband, Oh, I'm so 180 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 5: excited now, and I think it's partly as well to 181 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 5: do with preparation. I don't know if you, ladies feel 182 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 5: the same, But until I feel prepared for something, I mean, 183 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 5: with the Olympics, you can never be fully prepared because 184 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 5: there are a million stories and a million things you 185 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 5: need to know. But I have done enough work this 186 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 5: summer and I've had enough meetings with the production team 187 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 5: to sort of feel like, you know what, I've got 188 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 5: a handle on this. I think we're ready to go. 189 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 5: And then it's Paris, ladies, It's Paris. I mean, hello, 190 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 5: how exciting is that in itself? So no little kids vibes. 191 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 4: For sure, Rebecca. 192 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: So much of what you do is not just the 193 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: knowledge that you accumulate in the research that you have 194 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: to do on the front end, but it's the language 195 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 3: that you use in the moment to describe what you're seeing. 196 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: And something that we talk about on our show often 197 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: is the double standards that are so pervasive in media 198 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: today when it comes to how female athletes are portrayed 199 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: versus male athletes. How are you mindful about how women 200 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: are covered at the Games. 201 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 5: That's a really good point. I suppose, having spent my 202 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 5: entire career in a male dominated environment, which is soccer 203 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 5: and television, both of which, by the way, are male dominated. 204 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 5: Soccer and television. I am quite aware of that whole conversation. 205 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 5: I think one of the things that I'm always really 206 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 5: conscious of is I often think, and we have been 207 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 5: told at NBC, and it's been reiterated to us time 208 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 5: and time again, it feels to me like women are 209 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 5: seen as girls. When there's a young female, an eighteen 210 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 5: year old, fully grown adult, but she's a female, it's 211 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 5: often casually spoken about as being a young girl. And 212 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 5: I don't think you would say the same thing for 213 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 5: a man who's eighteen year old. They would never be 214 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 5: called a young boy. And I think that's just this 215 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 5: sort of very bizz It's not even bizarre because we 216 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 5: all know where it's come from. It's come from thousands 217 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 5: and thousands of years, but it's ingrained slight disbelief that 218 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 5: female males could do what males could do. And so 219 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 5: I'm probably one of the biggest champions you'll find of 220 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 5: females at the Olympic Games. And I think I do 221 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 5: that as best I can. When I think about my 222 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 5: own life and my own career, how I want to 223 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 5: be perceived by the men in soccer and by the 224 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 5: men in television. That's why I think these women want 225 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 5: to be perceived which is pretty much the same as 226 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 5: the men virtually. So I tried to treat them as 227 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 5: I would if it was a man. And I think 228 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 5: that maybe is the biggest compliment I can pay. 229 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: Do you feel like you've had to go out of 230 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 3: your way to fight for credibility as a woman in 231 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: these male dominated media circles? 232 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 5: So I mean, how long have you got? I mean 233 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 5: it has been since the day I started age twenty 234 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 5: one in England. And you know, I'd be at a 235 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 5: press conference and I'd ask a question and fifty men 236 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 5: would turn and look, who on earth is Who's that? 237 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 5: And so when I look at a lot of these women, 238 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 5: I sort of can see what they've also had to battle, 239 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 5: because sometimes talent isn't enough. You have to have grit 240 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 5: and you have to have character in order to sort 241 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 5: of elbow people out the way. And it's a horrible 242 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 5: thing to say, but you sometimes have to do that 243 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 5: to be strong in a man environment. And I don't 244 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 5: mean albow other women out of the way, I mean 245 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 5: elbow the men out of the way. To get yourself 246 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 5: to the front. I feel like I definitely had to 247 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 5: fight that, and maybe there's a parallel there with some 248 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 5: of these athletes who have had so much to fight 249 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 5: over so many years, so many of them, with all 250 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 5: the stories that we hear, you know, every year. So yeah, 251 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 5: it's been certainly been a ride for twenty odd years 252 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 5: of this career, that's for certain. 253 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: So I can still relate to that because when I 254 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: was a local news reporter, I was showing up to 255 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: a press conference and one of the camera ops from 256 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: another station called me kiddo in passing oh oh, and 257 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: I was like, don't go, kid. 258 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 5: Back to what we just said about girls, right. 259 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, infantalizing me. 260 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 5: I'm not sure they would have called a man of 261 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 5: your age kiddo, and I got called in my sweetheart, 262 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 5: I got called all of those kind of yes, that terminology. Yeah, 263 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 5: But isn't it crazy that people look at women as 264 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 5: though that in some spaces, still in twenty twenty four, 265 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 5: as though there's sort of another species, Not that they 266 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 5: are populating half of the planet, but they are sort 267 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 5: of like when these men used to look round at 268 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 5: me and be like, what on earth are you doing? 269 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 5: I'll be I'm not an alien. I'm just literally just 270 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 5: half of the planet over here. It's still quite depressing. 271 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 5: I have to say that we are even having this 272 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 5: conversation twenty twenty four, it's not enough progress. We're still 273 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 5: fighting this fight all the time. 274 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: I actually wanted to ask you about twenty twenty four. 275 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 2: Have you felt a shift in the industry. Do you 276 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: feel like people give you more respect over that, like 277 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: since the me Too movement? 278 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: Since twenty seventeen twenty eighteen, when. 279 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 5: I moved from England to America, that was a big shift, 280 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 5: just because the way that soccer has dealt with in 281 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 5: England is very archaic. To be honest, it certainly was 282 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 5: when I was there. I think it's got a bit better. 283 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: But so I felt not like how we see it 284 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: on Ted Lasso. 285 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 5: Now, I know, I know, no, my goodness, if I 286 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 5: could tell you the stories of the first ten years 287 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 5: of my career. But then as soon as I landed 288 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 5: in the States, and I think this is down a 289 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 5: lot to the fact that you guys have so many 290 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 5: frontline sports, whereas we just pretty much just have softwer 291 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 5: that's what everyone cares about. In the manner of that 292 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 5: with basketball, NFL, NHL, MLB, MLS. They're all on the NetWorld, 293 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 5: so there are actually lots of opportunities for women to appear. 294 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 5: And when I came here in twenty thirteen, I was like, Wow, 295 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 5: there's so many women on television. I can't put in 296 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 5: all these sports. I can't believe that. I mean, in 297 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 5: my opinion, there are still not enough hosts. They tend 298 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 5: to be more sideline reporters, which I've done and that 299 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 5: is the hardest job in broadcasting, without a doubt. But 300 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 5: from the outside looking in, I feel like there need 301 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 5: to be more hosts and good positions. But it's definitely shifted. 302 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 5: So when I moved here, it shifted in my career, 303 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 5: and then since the Me Too movement, there's definitely been 304 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 5: a shift. I definitely feel more empowered. I think women 305 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 5: feel more empowered. There's still a way to go, because 306 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 5: there was a pushback against that for a while, and 307 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 5: you know, as there always is, but that has been 308 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 5: and super helpful, certainly in my industry. 309 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt it too. I even felt it. 310 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: I was doing local news in Chicago at the time 311 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: of the movement, and I felt the shift in the 312 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: newsroom from the executive. So it's not perfect, like you said, 313 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: but I'm so grateful to all the women that pushed 314 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: for it and fought for it, because I really do 315 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: feel a shift. So you're a fly on the wall 316 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: as a broadcaster at the Olympics, Like you're seeing these 317 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: behind the scenes moments. You're seeing athletes after they get 318 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: off the floor of the gymnasium, out of the pool, 319 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: et cetera. 320 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: What are you seeing that we don't get to see 321 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: on TV. 322 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 5: Ooh, you know what, It's funny because I get to 323 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 5: see them as real humans. All athletes and it's the 324 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 5: same with all celebrities have a front and when the 325 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 5: camera goes on or when they're in in race mode, 326 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 5: they have that front. When I'm doing so, I tend 327 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 5: to get to interact with them the most when I 328 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 5: aim to be them. So I'll be in the studio 329 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 5: and I will see the official from Team USA come 330 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 5: through the or behind them will be whichever athlete or 331 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 5: athletes I'm going to get to interview five minutes later, 332 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 5: and they all have to get the earpiece in, and 333 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 5: they have to get a worcrophoned up, and they have 334 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 5: to get a little bit of makeup on and while 335 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 5: they're doing that, I sort of read their body language, 336 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 5: and then when you compare that to the way they 337 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 5: are on screen, it's so interesting because the one thing 338 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 5: I've seen most and they are just so normal and 339 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 5: they're humble and they're shy, and they're not used to 340 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 5: all of this attention, And especially the athletes that break 341 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 5: out at an Olympic Games and haven't been used to, 342 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 5: you know, Simone Biles, Katie Ladecki. They're different, and they've 343 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 5: done a million interviews, they know what's what. But you 344 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 5: get somebody come in who's got a medal and an 345 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 5: Olympic Games that never thought they would and no one 346 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 5: really has heard of them, and you see their innocence 347 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 5: maybe or sort of just kind of wide eyed. I 348 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 5: just love how like their mom might come on and 349 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 5: just sit in the corner and I see them hugging 350 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 5: their mom offter the interview and then they want a 351 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 5: selfie on the set, and it's just they like you 352 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 5: and me. They're just radio humans who happen to be 353 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 5: unbelievable a sport, but unbelievable a sport that has this 354 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 5: sort of slight purity about it. I think I think 355 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 5: the Olympics and all the different sports within the Olympics 356 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 5: is just so pure. It's why we love it. It 357 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 5: isn't tainted, certainly isn't yet by all the money and 358 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 5: all the glamor. It's just seems to be so real. 359 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 5: And that's what I love about seeing them clopse off. 360 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so endearing to hear that. I really really 361 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: really love that. 362 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 3: All Right, we've got to take a quick break, but 363 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 3: we'll be back shortly with Rebecca Lowe. 364 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: Okay, I kind of want you to give us a 365 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: little bit of a cheat sheet because Simona, I don't 366 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 2: know if you feel this way, but when I watch 367 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 2: any sport, let alone the Olympics, like, I love being 368 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: in a room with people and they're like, oh, who's that? 369 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: Who's that? And I'm like, I know who that is. 370 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: I heard them talked about on a podcast. 371 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: So can you give us the rundown of who we 372 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: should be looking out for so that all of our 373 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: besties listening can be the person in the room that's 374 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: like of them. 375 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 5: I love it, Yes, Okay, So I think all the 376 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 5: best season in the room will have heard of the 377 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 5: lives of Simone Biles and would have heard well, do 378 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 5: you think they would have heard of the lives of 379 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 5: Shirkerri Richardson because she's a big deal now, yeah, finitely yeah. 380 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 5: I mean she's doozo. I mean she's she's done a 381 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 5: huge Boil article. So if you're in Vogue, then you've 382 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 5: made it in life. But I think if you're sitting 383 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 5: there and you're watching the gymnastics and the five women 384 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 5: who are on teen USA, all four of those five 385 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 5: are returning having been in Tokyo except one. So the 386 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 5: one that is new and making her Olympic debut as 387 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 5: a sixteen year old, she only just turned sixteen. I mean, 388 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 5: it is quite ridiculous. Her name is Hesley Rivera and 389 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 5: she is a little pocket rocket. Anyone I think who 390 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 5: is in their teen years, you just if you're of 391 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 5: any age like me, with a child like me, I 392 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 5: just want to just mother them. I'm just so, I 393 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 5: think I'm more excited about seeing a teenager do well 394 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 5: than anything else because you feel that kind of motherly 395 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 5: feeling about Imagine if that was my kid, you know, So, 396 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 5: Hesley Rivera, I want you to definitely look out for 397 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 5: in terms of there's a lady that I think you 398 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 5: guys should know. And her name is Messiah Russell. This 399 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 5: is definitely one for the party when you're like, oh, Messiah, yeah, 400 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 5: I know what about her? 401 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 402 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 5: Sure. So it's the one hundred meter hurdles and she 403 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 5: won it at Olympic Trials and she got a personal 404 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 5: best and she made a trials record and he was 405 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 5: filled up in Portland, Oregon. When she turned pro, there 406 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 5: was a lot of criticism, which I find very massar 407 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 5: again about her maybe not being as good now that 408 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 5: she turned pro. When she did the interview, she was 409 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 5: she was pretty fierce, Like all you people who came 410 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 5: for me, look at what I just did. No one 411 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 5: loves kind of sticking it to people more, do they? 412 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 5: Athletes love doing that. These people who didn't believe in me, 413 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 5: this coach, you never believed in me, and then they 414 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 5: go and prove them wrong. Nothing better than that kind 415 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 5: of story. So Massih Russell. 416 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: There's a sports psychology behind that for sure. 417 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: Definitely keeping on the track and field topic, I know 418 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 3: that you've interviewed Shaki Richardson in the past, and she's 419 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: making her return to track and field events this year 420 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 3: at the Olympics after the marijuana related suspension ahead of Tokyo. 421 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 3: How do you think she's evolved since that incident and 422 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: how do you think the narrative around her has changed. 423 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 5: I love her, I have to say I haven't been 424 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 5: as excited about a female athlete in a while. Her story, 425 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 5: if anyone who doesn't know, is quite something. Grow up 426 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 5: in Texas and has a difficult family background, but at 427 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 5: the same time has an incredibly tight family around her. 428 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 5: And I think the one thing simone to answer your 429 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 5: question first of all, is that to use her own quote. 430 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 5: She doesn't say I'm back. She says I'm not back, 431 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 5: I'm better, And I think that tells you everything you 432 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 5: need to know. She doesn't want to keep harping back 433 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 5: to what happened before Tokyo. I don't know her. I'm English, 434 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 5: but I was for Team USA and for her devastated 435 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 5: when that news came out, having watched her at Chrials 436 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 5: and seen the talent that we have available to us 437 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 5: at teen USA, she couldn't go. It was awful. But 438 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 5: she doesn't talk a lot about that. She talks a 439 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 5: lot about the twenty four to seven nature of track 440 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 5: and fields and being a sprinter. And I don't know 441 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 5: about you. But before I worked Olympic Games, I used 442 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 5: to wonder how sprinter's trained. How do you train to 443 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 5: be a ten second runner, which is essentially what she is. 444 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,239 Speaker 5: And I think she talks a lot in some of 445 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 5: the interviews she's given recently about obviously strength training and 446 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 5: the different elements of the ten second race. There are 447 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 5: about five or six different parts to a one hundred 448 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 5: meter rais and yet it happens in ten seconds. There's 449 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 5: the blocks, there's coming out of the blocks. When do 450 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 5: you put your head up, When do you change your shoulders? 451 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 5: When do you lend lean forward to try and win it? 452 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 5: And they're all those things. Somehow they train them. And 453 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 5: she talks about not only those moments of training, but 454 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 5: of nutrition, the constant nutrition twenty four hours a day, 455 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 5: the constant hydration, the massages, the physical therapy, then in 456 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 5: the gym, And I think that what her message is 457 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 5: by doing these interviews and explaining how her life is 458 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 5: or or track is, she's saying that is the past. 459 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 5: Yes it was her, but that was a mistake and 460 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 5: that was in the past. And also the reason she 461 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 5: gave for the failed drugs test with a THHC was 462 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 5: because she was just dealing with a lot emotionally, and 463 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 5: that is I think something we have to give grace 464 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 5: for so three years on here we are her and 465 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 5: her nails are going to be amazing in Paris, and 466 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 5: she is elite. Elite. 467 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: I think that's so evident in the support that she's 468 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 3: garnered from fans. Okay, before we move on to your domain, 469 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 3: which is soccer, really quickly, Simone Biles, she is going 470 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 3: to be in Paris. She's someone who continues to push 471 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 3: the boundaries of what is possible in gymnastics. What are 472 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 3: you expecting from her this time around? Are you hearing 473 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 3: any murmurs or rumors about what she's got planned her 474 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: headspace going into the Games this year? 475 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 5: From what I hear on her head's face, she's better 476 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 5: than she's ever been. She attributes that to therapy every Thursday, 477 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 5: every single Thursday, since what happened when she got the 478 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 5: twisties in Tokyo and that just blew up everyone's world, 479 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 5: obviously mainly hers. She has found the therapy which she 480 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 5: sees who she sees every Thursday, and that therapist she's 481 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 5: going to continue to see during the Games. She's even 482 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 5: managed to work it out that on a Thursday, she's 483 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 5: not competing, so she's going to get to spend her 484 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 5: day doing therapy and that's her self care day, which 485 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 5: I think is crucial. You were talking Danielle about the 486 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 5: me too movement, and I think that similarly with mental health, 487 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 5: she broke real boundaries she did in Tokyo sman bars 488 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 5: with what happened to her, and it's a different world 489 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 5: now she can talk openly about having a self care 490 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 5: day and having a therapy day, whereas ten years ago. 491 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 5: Can you imagine if a top gym is was like 492 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 5: having a self care day, everybody would have been like, 493 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 5: oh please, she's obviously woo women, a bit hippieike and crazy. 494 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 3: Well, even when she did say that she didn't feel 495 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 3: comfortable performing that day, she got so much heat, so 496 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 3: much backlash from a lot of men too, who were 497 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 3: discrediting her in her accomplishments, just because she was self 498 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 3: aware and in her body. 499 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 5: And if you speak and hear from lots of other gymnasts, 500 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 5: that's actually very common. It's just not talked about that much, 501 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 5: and so I think it was so new to so 502 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 5: many people, and as we know, lack of knowledge on 503 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 5: something can often lead to ignorance, and I think that's 504 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 5: what happened in that situation. But in terms of when 505 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 5: she's out there performing in parasite, expect nothing less than 506 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 5: plenty of gold medals. She does have an opponent or arrival. 507 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 5: I should say now that she didn't really have to 508 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 5: deal with Rebecca and I think you pronounced her last 509 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 5: name Andragi. She's from Brazil. She was there eight years 510 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 5: ago in Rio, but she wasn't anywhere near the standard. 511 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 5: She's now really good and she has come on leaps 512 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 5: and bounds, and Rebecca and Rogi is going to be 513 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 5: a big rival to Simone Biles. But you know what 514 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 5: I think with her mental strength now, Simone Biles, it's 515 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 5: just going to take her up. It's just going to 516 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 5: raise the levels. She's not been challenged. Let's be honest. 517 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 5: It's never good if you're an athlete and there's no 518 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 5: one and you're basically she's always said it. Her opponents 519 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 5: is herself. She's basically trying to compete against herself, and 520 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 5: she's always said that because there's everyone else is about 521 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 5: thirteen points behind. I mean, she's so ahead of everyone. 522 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 5: So maybe Androgi can lights a little fire under her, 523 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 5: plus the mental strength that she's filled up over the 524 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 5: last couple of years, and I think we're going to 525 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 5: see her back to her best without a doubt. 526 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, God, what, that's a great point. 527 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 2: I mean, one of my favorite docs is the Larry 528 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 2: Bird Magic Johnson documentary, and they both say that they 529 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 2: wouldn't have been as great of athletes individually had they 530 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: not been rivals with one another. 531 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 5: So, Daniel, can you imagine how good she is when 532 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 5: she doesn't play a rival. So that's why I think 533 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 5: this might take it to a whole other level. If 534 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 5: there is even another level that Simone Biles can reach. 535 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 4: I love that. 536 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, we have to talk soccer. 537 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: I have such a girl crush on the US women's 538 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 2: soccer team. 539 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: I always have. 540 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: They're just the coolest individually and as a team, they're 541 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: just so freaking cool. Alex Morgan huge girl crush of mine. 542 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: There's a lot of talk that she's not joining the team. 543 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: Can you give us a little bit of the backstory 544 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: what's happening here? 545 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 5: So Alex Morgand has been in the face of US 546 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 5: women's national team soccer for as long as I can remember. 547 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 5: I remember working at the twenty eleven Women's World Cup 548 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 5: for ESPN, which was what thirteen years ago, and she 549 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 5: was established then. So for anyone new to this, we're 550 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 5: talking decades of Alex Morgan and not only tenure appearances, 551 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 5: but leadership and of course goals, right, goals, goals, goals. 552 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 5: That's how she's made her name, that's how she's mamed 553 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 5: her millions. She is all about the goals and she's 554 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 5: won everything. She's won at all. She just turned thirty five. 555 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 5: And the situation is that at the last World Cup 556 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three last year, they didn't do very well. 557 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 5: It was a bit of a collapse and a bit 558 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 5: of a shock that the rest of the world had 559 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 5: caught up with the US women's national team in terms 560 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 5: of ability. Without a doubt that has happened, and the 561 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 5: US similarly, funnily enough to Simone Biles, because the US 562 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 5: for so long has just been out Now business is easy, 563 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 5: We're just the best of the world by far, and 564 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 5: suddenly arous is caught up and so it's given them 565 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 5: a bit of a shock and they have to regroup. 566 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 5: So they've gone and they've got the best women's coach 567 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 5: and best female coach with that out in England, the 568 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 5: home of football, of course. And her name is Emma 569 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 5: Hayes and she is fantastic. She's won everything at domestic level. 570 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 5: She's not done international yet, but domestically with Chelsea and 571 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 5: other clubs, she's won everything. So she has come in 572 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 5: to take over and she said a couple of friendlies 573 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 5: and then she had to make the Olympic roster announcement 574 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 5: and there was no Alex Morgan named in the squad. 575 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 5: So this is a huge shot. But you know, I 576 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 5: think you have to look at it from the other 577 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 5: side as well. Emma Hayes is coming in to try 578 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 5: and take this team in a new direction. They have 579 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 5: to the Alex Morgan's, the Megan Rapinos, the Abby one 580 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 5: Bucks of the last twenty years have their place, and 581 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 5: my goodness do they have their plays on and off 582 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 5: the field, by the way, let's not forget. But they've 583 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 5: got to go forward with some youth. So Emma Hayes 584 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 5: has the plan. She has the plan and you know 585 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 5: she's got some incredible strikers. Mallory Swanson who was injured 586 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 5: for the last World Cup. Remember that name, Sophia Smith. 587 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 5: If anyone's listening, who's news to soccer and women's soccer. 588 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 5: Sophia Smith is amazing and so she has youngsters in 589 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 5: the position of Alex Morgan to go to the Olympics 590 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 5: knowing that she has top level replacements. It's always sad 591 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 5: when an elite athlete is starting to say goodbye in 592 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 5: their career and you don't get many more elite than 593 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 5: Alex Morgan. But I'm afraid it's It's life, right, ladies, 594 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 5: It's life. 595 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: Okay, we probably have the most serious question that we've 596 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: saved for the and Rebecca, Okay, I want to make 597 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 2: sure we end on a high note. So I just 598 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 2: I want you to be honest. Okay, you're from England. 599 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: Now you're living in the US. 600 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 5: Correct. 601 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: Are you team USA or are you Team UK? 602 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 5: Danielle, It's it's a big problem for me. I gotta 603 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 5: be honest with you. It is a major issue. Not 604 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 5: only am I living here, I'm also an American citizen, 605 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 5: my child was born here, my husband certificate family, I 606 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 5: have two passports. So I okay, am I can I 607 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 5: be both? I mean, is it possible to be both? 608 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: Yes? 609 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you that, except for answer this. Okay, 610 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: the US women's soccer team is playing the UK women's 611 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: soccer team. What jersey are you wearing. You're not broadcasting, 612 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: you're not live on air. 613 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: Who's jersey? 614 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 5: It's Team Great Britain. Yeah, I got any of it. 615 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 5: If I'm not broadcasting, I'm not on NBC's payroll. In 616 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 5: that very second, then I got a root for my 617 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 5: ladies from back Hope, just like I'm routing for England 618 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 5: every time they played the men's team at the World 619 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 5: carpet of the Euros. I think it's hard, you know, 620 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 5: I think it's hard for me to root against them. Yeah. 621 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 1: Every other thing is USA hometown loyalty. I respect it 622 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: so much. 623 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: I've lived in LA for ten years and I will 624 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: never root for the Lakers. I will always be a 625 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: Bulls fan, and I understand what you're saying. 626 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: Okay, listen here on the bright side, we're all about 627 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 3: celebrating women in our multitudes. So I give you full 628 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 3: permission to embrace both of your loves. 629 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 5: Thank you, Simone, I appreciate it. Thank you. 630 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you choose Rebecca. You are so awesome. 631 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: Thank you for this. 632 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing so many stats and stories. I 633 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: feel prepared to walk into an Olympic party and really 634 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: know my stuff. 635 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 5: Love it, love it. Maybe you also welcome, Thank you, 636 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 5: thank you, enjoy. 637 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: Rebecca Lowe is an NBC daytime host who will be 638 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 2: covering the Olympic Games from Paris. She's the host of 639 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: NBC Sports Premier League coverage and this will be her 640 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: sixth time covering the Olympics. 641 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 3: That's it for today's show, y'all. Tomorrow, we are talking 642 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 3: to Joe Piazza. She's an author, journalist, and podcaster. Her 643 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 3: latest book is called The Sicilian Inheritance. 644 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: Listen and follow the bright Side on the iHeartRadio app, 645 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 646 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: I'm Simone Voice. You can find me at simone Voice 647 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 3: on Instagram and. 648 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: Tiktok'm Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok. 649 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: That's r O B A. Y. 650 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 4: See you tomorrow, folks. 651 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 3: Keep looking on the bright side.