1
00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,360
Speaker 1: Hello, I'm welcome to Favor production of I Heart Radio.

2
00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,320
Speaker 1: I'm Annie Reese and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum. And today we're

3
00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:18,319
Speaker 1: talking about ice cream trucks we are, which is a

4
00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:24,079
Speaker 1: pretty frequent listener suggestion. Yeah, yeah, well well here here

5
00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,400
Speaker 1: you go. Finally, yes, finally, if you ask, and you

6
00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:35,440
Speaker 1: shall eventually eventually. Yes, our list is quite long. But um,

7
00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,200
Speaker 1: I personally don't have much experience with ice cream trucks.

8
00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,279
Speaker 1: There was a period of time when I was the producer,

9
00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,440
Speaker 1: the video producer for stuff I Never told you, and

10
00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:53,920
Speaker 1: filming was constantly, like unbelievably frequently interrupted by an ice

11
00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,000
Speaker 1: cream truck and like the jingle over its loudspeakers. Yeah,

12
00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,360
Speaker 1: and it never stopped. And we could never figure out

13
00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,360
Speaker 1: why it was back there, because it's not like we

14
00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,919
Speaker 1: were filming in a pretty secluded area where there's mostly

15
00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,360
Speaker 1: artists in business. Like, there's not all kids out there,

16
00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:14,080
Speaker 1: that is for sure, there's barely a road out there. Um,

17
00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,280
Speaker 1: but it happened enough that I did a mega cut

18
00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,440
Speaker 1: video of outtakes of it and of the house. Christen

19
00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:27,280
Speaker 1: getting increasingly more furious. I'm gonna like confront the ice creab.

20
00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,440
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, yeah, I wonder if that's still something

21
00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:40,480
Speaker 1: she deals with. I should check in. Und I don't

22
00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,760
Speaker 1: think I've ever actually bought something from an ice cream shuck. No,

23
00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,560
Speaker 1: I really didn't like a lot of the stuff they

24
00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,240
Speaker 1: had to offer. Like it was fine, but it wasn't

25
00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,480
Speaker 1: something I was super excited about. But when I was

26
00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,280
Speaker 1: in elementary school, I did like, Um, on Fridays we

27
00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,280
Speaker 1: had like ice cream Days, and every now and then

28
00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,000
Speaker 1: I would splurge and get the Snoopy Bar, which was

29
00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,840
Speaker 1: essentially just vanilla and chocolate ice cream on a stick.

30
00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,240
Speaker 1: And I'm still uncertain of how it stayed on that stick.

31
00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:19,560
Speaker 1: But it's a mystery mystery of current history. Uh yeah,

32
00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,480
Speaker 1: how some of those um quiescently frozen desserts are constructed

33
00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:31,440
Speaker 1: would definitely be a subject for another day. Um, I've

34
00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,160
Speaker 1: I've purchased things from ice cream trucks a small handful

35
00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,880
Speaker 1: of times in my life, I think, mostly um when

36
00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,560
Speaker 1: I it would have happened when I was staying with

37
00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:45,799
Speaker 1: my my grandparents up in East Liverpool, Ohio, which, now

38
00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,600
Speaker 1: that I've done the research for this episode, I'm like, oh,

39
00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,239
Speaker 1: that's like right near Youngstown. It's like a suburb of Youngstown,

40
00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,399
Speaker 1: so that that that's coming up in the history section later.

41
00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,480
Speaker 1: So maybe that's why ice cream trucks are more prevalent

42
00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,079
Speaker 1: up there, like more or I don't know, Like I mean,

43
00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,639
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I've lived in any number

44
00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,360
Speaker 1: of neighborhoods that have had ice cream trucks come through.

45
00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,240
Speaker 1: The kind of Doppler effect that you get on the

46
00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,240
Speaker 1: music that they play really trips me out. I really

47
00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:18,040
Speaker 1: don't like it. It's very creepy to me. Oh well,

48
00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,920
Speaker 1: speaking of um, the very first thing I thought of

49
00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,959
Speaker 1: when we were doing this is ice cream trucks also

50
00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,680
Speaker 1: kind of freaked me out. And I think it's primarily

51
00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,240
Speaker 1: because of the demon ice cream truck from Charmed, the

52
00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:37,640
Speaker 1: television show, the ninety nineties version, and it really really

53
00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,520
Speaker 1: made an impact. Like I watched the entire show multiple times,

54
00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,720
Speaker 1: but there's only a handful of episodes that really stand

55
00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,640
Speaker 1: out to me, and this one, for whatever reason, it did.

56
00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,160
Speaker 1: And so it was this ice cream truck that lured

57
00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,840
Speaker 1: demon children with a song called the Devil's Cord, and

58
00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,280
Speaker 1: inside the ice cream truck was a pocket to mention

59
00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:07,920
Speaker 1: called the Nothing, which manifested as a snowy mostly empty playground. Okay, yes,

60
00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:13,360
Speaker 1: and the nothing consumes and destroys everything it encounters, as

61
00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,400
Speaker 1: you might imagine, the ice cream Man is immortal and

62
00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,000
Speaker 1: he they both of these things get an entry into

63
00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,880
Speaker 1: the Book of Shadows, which is a big deal for

64
00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,240
Speaker 1: anyone who's listened to that show. Actually, it's probably not,

65
00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,080
Speaker 1: because I think everything gets an entry in the book

66
00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,360
Speaker 1: of show. It's like the setup of that show. But

67
00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:35,080
Speaker 1: I um uh so. So when we were picking this topic,

68
00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,480
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, like Annie like had like this

69
00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,080
Speaker 1: big list of stuff, and I was like, oh, maybe

70
00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:45,120
Speaker 1: ice cream trucks and uh and she goes, okay. But

71
00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,880
Speaker 1: if you think I'm not talking about that Charmed episode,

72
00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,719
Speaker 1: you are wrong. And and I've never watched I've watched

73
00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,239
Speaker 1: like an episode of that show in my entire life.

74
00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,400
Speaker 1: So I was like, I don't, I will, I want

75
00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,640
Speaker 1: you to, and thank you are doing so, thank you

76
00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,800
Speaker 1: for letting me. I tell you. I still think about this,

77
00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,160
Speaker 1: probably at least once a month of that ice cream

78
00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,320
Speaker 1: truck episode. I don't know why. I don't know. Um,

79
00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,120
Speaker 1: I do remember as a kid. I think I must

80
00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,400
Speaker 1: have grown up in like that era of you know,

81
00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,800
Speaker 1: Stranger Danger. I think it was weird like that you

82
00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,120
Speaker 1: would hear this music, go up to a strange van

83
00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,640
Speaker 1: and essentially take candy from stranger like buy it. And

84
00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,599
Speaker 1: I know you're essentially doing the same thing when you

85
00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,480
Speaker 1: buy from a story. It just felt odd to me,

86
00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,920
Speaker 1: like like there's a siren song uring you out. And

87
00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,440
Speaker 1: I think that thought just really connected that charmed episode.

88
00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,600
Speaker 1: It's like see oh yeah, yeah, there's something kind of

89
00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:47,799
Speaker 1: like goblin market e about the entire thing, isn't there. Yeah? Yeah,

90
00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:55,719
Speaker 1: another um nineties horror comedy television news. Yeah, and Buffy

91
00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,360
Speaker 1: the Vampire Slayer. Zander Um has a job as an

92
00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,680
Speaker 1: ice cream truck driver for a while. Oh, I don't

93
00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,440
Speaker 1: remember that. I think it was in season four, like

94
00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,360
Speaker 1: right after they graduate. Xander's picking up all of these

95
00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,080
Speaker 1: odd jobs, and that's one that he has for a while. Um,

96
00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,240
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think Anya entirely understands it. That's

97
00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,839
Speaker 1: that's that's what I remember of it anyway, Yeah, yeah,

98
00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,400
Speaker 1: I do. I do have one very excellent memory of

99
00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,000
Speaker 1: ice cream trucks, though, and that is um, when uh,

100
00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,039
Speaker 1: two of my dear friends Amy and Mark were getting married,

101
00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,719
Speaker 1: they were having like a little like a little backyard wedding,

102
00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,480
Speaker 1: and it was it was kind of casual, and it

103
00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,800
Speaker 1: was it was you know, beautiful and nice and hydranges

104
00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,760
Speaker 1: in this whole thing. And but since it was you know,

105
00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,440
Speaker 1: in a residential backyard. UM, at one point in the

106
00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,960
Speaker 1: middle of this lovely afternoon wedding, we hear the ice

107
00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,400
Speaker 1: cream truck jingle and like, all of a sudden, like

108
00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,640
Speaker 1: the entire wedding party like stops what they're doing and

109
00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,800
Speaker 1: like and like runs out to the front and like

110
00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,799
Speaker 1: everyone gets ice cream bars and it it was really

111
00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:09,360
Speaker 1: it was really sweet. Oh that sounds lovely. Yeah. They

112
00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,120
Speaker 1: had some really good like Marvel themed bars too, and

113
00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,880
Speaker 1: their nerds, so it was, Yes, it was good. Yeah,

114
00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,160
Speaker 1: I do like those. I appreciate those. UM. And we

115
00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,920
Speaker 1: have done an episode on the ice Cream Sunday which

116
00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,200
Speaker 1: was a very goofy one, but very fun. We got

117
00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,040
Speaker 1: to read a lot of intense legal documents about ice

118
00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,800
Speaker 1: cream Sunday. UM. And we've done one on ice which

119
00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,880
Speaker 1: actually does play into a lot of this UM and milkshakes.

120
00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,480
Speaker 1: But correct me if I'm wrong. We haven't done ice cream,

121
00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,960
Speaker 1: have we? No, not that I'm personally aware of. UM,

122
00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,840
Speaker 1: don't anything could have happened. Um. Yeah, yeah, no, that

123
00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,040
Speaker 1: that's I think that's one that I keep going like

124
00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,160
Speaker 1: not today, Like that's too much. It is a lot,

125
00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,360
Speaker 1: It very much is one day, but one day not today.

126
00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,440
Speaker 1: Today we are talking about a different thing. And that

127
00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:11,760
Speaker 1: brings us to our question ice cream trucks. What are they? Well? Uh?

128
00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,280
Speaker 1: And ice cream truck is a motor vehicle fitted with

129
00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,280
Speaker 1: a refrigeration unit so that it can keep frozen treats

130
00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,640
Speaker 1: like ice cream, uh, frozen. The driver might make multiple

131
00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,880
Speaker 1: stops around neighborhoods or places with foot traffic to find

132
00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,560
Speaker 1: potential customers, or might be flagged down by pedestrians to

133
00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,520
Speaker 1: purchase said frozen treats. The products are often individually wrapped

134
00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:37,080
Speaker 1: and industrially produced. Um. But they can also include any

135
00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,319
Speaker 1: any number of things soft serve pumps or hand dipping stations.

136
00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,719
Speaker 1: You know. Any I I read some things about some

137
00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:52,280
Speaker 1: ice cream nachos. Oh, I've read ice cream nachos. Yeah, yeah,

138
00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,880
Speaker 1: that sounds amazing. Um. But yeah. The trucks, as we

139
00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,640
Speaker 1: have been saying, often project music over a loudspeaker sound

140
00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:05,160
Speaker 1: system to alert potential customers to their presence. Actual trucks

141
00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,800
Speaker 1: and vans and minibusses are all used, many specially fitted

142
00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,960
Speaker 1: with with windows so that the driver can serve the

143
00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:15,360
Speaker 1: treats without like leaving the truck. Slide the window open. Yeah. Um.

144
00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes the trucks are owned by a central company and

145
00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,160
Speaker 1: the drivers are like independent contractors who just like go

146
00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,360
Speaker 1: pick up a truck on days that they choose to work. Um.

147
00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,640
Speaker 1: Other times the truck owners are franchise ease. It all depends.

148
00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,959
Speaker 1: I bet the the truck franchisees, like if it's parked

149
00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:36,479
Speaker 1: out in your driveway, I bet some kids come around

150
00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:45,559
Speaker 1: some questions. Oh yeah, oh, I bet me a deal. Um, well, uh,

151
00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,840
Speaker 1: what about the nutrition? You don't eat trucks, don't I

152
00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,120
Speaker 1: feel like the second time we've told people not to

153
00:09:53,160 --> 00:10:00,920
Speaker 1: eat something that Yeah, good, good revine dirt, don't eat.

154
00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:06,320
Speaker 1: Don't eat trucks or vans or minibusses. Um, don't do it. Yeah,

155
00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some sort of like Superhero. I mean,

156
00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:16,200
Speaker 1: did the Hulk ever take a bite out of I

157
00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,559
Speaker 1: mean probably at the very least he probably like like

158
00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,280
Speaker 1: bit one and then like shook it like a dog, yeah,

159
00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,600
Speaker 1: and then spare it out. Yeah. Okay, so unless you

160
00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,920
Speaker 1: got your gut that going on. Just I'd say even then,

161
00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,559
Speaker 1: I'd say even even then, Bruce Banner, if you are

162
00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,800
Speaker 1: listening to this, um Dr Banner, you know, I would

163
00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:43,360
Speaker 1: say don't, probably don't. This message is for the whole

164
00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:50,400
Speaker 1: Bruce Banner. We're just looking out for you, are you know,

165
00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,280
Speaker 1: dental health is really important to your overall health. Um,

166
00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,319
Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to keep those chompers, uh, you know,

167
00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:05,440
Speaker 1: whole and and clean. Um you know. Yeah, it's really

168
00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:12,520
Speaker 1: as little tire rubber as possible. Yeah, avoid Yeah, all right, Well,

169
00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,439
Speaker 1: we're just trying to help, just trying to help. We

170
00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,720
Speaker 1: do have some numbers for you. Mr Softie has about

171
00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:24,320
Speaker 1: seven hundred trucks in fifteen states, operated by four hundred franchisees.

172
00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,520
Speaker 1: And I found it hard to find other, uh to

173
00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,640
Speaker 1: find other numbers on how many ice cream trucks are

174
00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,200
Speaker 1: are out there. Um, I looked, maybe I was maybe

175
00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,160
Speaker 1: I was miss googling. I feel like sometimes, yeah, I've

176
00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,679
Speaker 1: I've mis googled before. Yeah. Yeah, it does sound like

177
00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,840
Speaker 1: some people kind of don't really report that they have them,

178
00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,439
Speaker 1: which we're going to talk about more in the history bit. Yeah,

179
00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,200
Speaker 1: but yeah, that is really interesting. You would think it

180
00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,600
Speaker 1: would be pretty readily available information, right, yeah, well okay,

181
00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,320
Speaker 1: but so anyway, Yeah, I'm According to two drivers who

182
00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,000
Speaker 1: spoke with their the'se over at Mental Floss, sales of

183
00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,560
Speaker 1: ice cream from ice cream trucks actually goes down when

184
00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:10,040
Speaker 1: it's super hot outside because people aren't hanging around outside.

185
00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,560
Speaker 1: Yeah that makes sense, that makes Yeah. They say that

186
00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,480
Speaker 1: the perfect temperature is seventy degrees fahrenheit. Oh that is

187
00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,400
Speaker 1: a lovely temperature and it well, I I agree in general. Yes,

188
00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,080
Speaker 1: there is a Guinness record for the largest parade of

189
00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,560
Speaker 1: ice cream trucks um. That is from in the UK,

190
00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,640
Speaker 1: in which eight four vans participated in an ice cream

191
00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:41,080
Speaker 1: ice cream van parade. Ice cream van parade. Yeah, ice

192
00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,120
Speaker 1: cream van is the term over there. That's I just

193
00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,560
Speaker 1: find that very funny. I mean, were they hanging out

194
00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,640
Speaker 1: where they selling ice cream? I'm not I'm not entirely sure.

195
00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,880
Speaker 1: I saw that it happened, and I think that they

196
00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,320
Speaker 1: were all in one place for like an ice cream

197
00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,760
Speaker 1: truck convention, um, like a stream convention to talk about like,

198
00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,520
Speaker 1: you know, technology and I don't know, like sure, you know,

199
00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,840
Speaker 1: trade secrets whatever. It is the record for the longest

200
00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,520
Speaker 1: stint as an ice cream truck driver is sixty seven

201
00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:17,720
Speaker 1: years held by one Alan Gans of Massachusetts, um and

202
00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,440
Speaker 1: he says that he met his wife at an ice

203
00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:26,840
Speaker 1: cream parlor back in the day. Oh so sweet. All right, well,

204
00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,280
Speaker 1: we have a lot of history for you, gosh, we do.

205
00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,880
Speaker 1: But first we've got a quick break for a word

206
00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:45,040
Speaker 1: from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes,

207
00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,840
Speaker 1: thank you. And I wanted to start this one with

208
00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,559
Speaker 1: a shout out to John Dickey's article for Smithsonian from

209
00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,480
Speaker 1: July called how the ice Cream Truck Made Summer Cool

210
00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,080
Speaker 1: for being just so helpful and putting together this one.

211
00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, really good piece. Go go check

212
00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:07,200
Speaker 1: it out. Great work, absolutely so. For a long time,

213
00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,480
Speaker 1: due to the difficulty of procuring ice, the lack of

214
00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,800
Speaker 1: refrigeration and expensive ingredients, ice cream was mostly relegated to

215
00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,360
Speaker 1: the rich. That began to change in the eighteen hundreds

216
00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,240
Speaker 1: when the ice industry really took off again. You can

217
00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,640
Speaker 1: see our ice episode, which I have very fond memories

218
00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,600
Speaker 1: of because it gave us the excuse to look up

219
00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,440
Speaker 1: Arnold Schwarzenegger's best slash worst puns as Mr Freeze. Remember

220
00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,000
Speaker 1: that we spent like twenty minutes on. Oh gosh, we

221
00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,680
Speaker 1: did that was that was I think that was one

222
00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,520
Speaker 1: of those um ad breaks that we actually took in

223
00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,080
Speaker 1: the studio and we were just looking up these designs.

224
00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,680
Speaker 1: Had not seen it at the time. Oh right, I've

225
00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,720
Speaker 1: seen it now. But everyone was like, these are your

226
00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,120
Speaker 1: these puns if you you need to hear them, and

227
00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:57,560
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, Um, so you I have fond

228
00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,960
Speaker 1: memories of it. Unfortunately it didn't make into the episode.

229
00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,640
Speaker 1: But you can look them up yourself. They're pretty good.

230
00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,120
Speaker 1: You can, you can, yes, all right. So at the

231
00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,160
Speaker 1: same time as the ice industry is taking off, UM,

232
00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,120
Speaker 1: there were innovations like hand cranke ice cream makers. For

233
00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,000
Speaker 1: those that couldn't afford those, there was another option, buying

234
00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,760
Speaker 1: ice cream products from push cart vendors primarily operated by immigrants.

235
00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,800
Speaker 1: According to Mental floss Um ice Cream, these treats were

236
00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,800
Speaker 1: associated with Independence Day by the eighteen thirties in the

237
00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:32,800
Speaker 1: United States, so these carts um were cheaper to operate

238
00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,320
Speaker 1: than a brick and mortar and more able to fly

239
00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,240
Speaker 1: under the radar when it came to health standards. UM,

240
00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,400
Speaker 1: and they sold treats like Hokey Pokey, the Hokey pokey,

241
00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,800
Speaker 1: which was a bite sized Neapolitan wrapped in paper and

242
00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,400
Speaker 1: something else called a penny look. This was basically a

243
00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,080
Speaker 1: substitute for ice cream crones, which didn't exist yet. Customers

244
00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,400
Speaker 1: would get their ice cream in a glass, which they

245
00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,840
Speaker 1: then licks clean or right there, or turned to the vendor,

246
00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,320
Speaker 1: who dipped it in a pail of water and then

247
00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:09,400
Speaker 1: used to the same glass for the next customer. M hmm, yeah, yep,

248
00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,200
Speaker 1: the penny look. One of the most beloved and popular

249
00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,000
Speaker 1: treats was the ice cream sandwich, a treat that broke

250
00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,920
Speaker 1: down social barriers in a lot of ways. There are

251
00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,680
Speaker 1: a lot of articles written about this. Um the rich

252
00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,760
Speaker 1: and poor, people of all all classes would purchase these

253
00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:28,080
Speaker 1: treets and eat them outside alongside each other. Well yeah,

254
00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,480
Speaker 1: and by this point, these carts were often equipped with

255
00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:37,000
Speaker 1: noisemakers to get people's attention. UM chimes and bells, um

256
00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,120
Speaker 1: and and clockwork music boxes, sometimes coin operated, so the

257
00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,800
Speaker 1: kids would have a little extra thing to do. Um

258
00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,080
Speaker 1: and and so that that kind of plinky music box

259
00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,200
Speaker 1: kind of kind of simple melody like often songs from

260
00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,280
Speaker 1: nursery rhymes or or other tunes that kids would know.

261
00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:00,360
Speaker 1: UM became associated with ice cream from this very early time,

262
00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,440
Speaker 1: and if we look at the history of the ice

263
00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,720
Speaker 1: cream truck in particular, it is something of a legend um.

264
00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,359
Speaker 1: The story often starts with Harry Burt, Sr. Who was

265
00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:16,159
Speaker 1: a confectioner in Youngstown, Ohio. In nineteen twenty. He was

266
00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,400
Speaker 1: testing one of his new innovations, a slab of vanilla

267
00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,200
Speaker 1: ice cream and case in a layer of chocolate, by

268
00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,080
Speaker 1: having his kids taste it. The consensus from his daughter

269
00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,159
Speaker 1: Ruth was good, but it's too messy to eat, and

270
00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,439
Speaker 1: in response, his son Henry Burt Jr. Offered, why not

271
00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,639
Speaker 1: put it on a stick? Problem, Solf, that's all you

272
00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:40,479
Speaker 1: gotta do. I mean, so the legend goes, so it goes.

273
00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,760
Speaker 1: And this was a logical suggestion from Burt Junior because

274
00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,240
Speaker 1: his father had already created a hard candy lollipop on

275
00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,400
Speaker 1: a stick that he dubbed the Jolly Boy. Ice Cream

276
00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,040
Speaker 1: on a stick hadn't really been done before, though, so

277
00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,120
Speaker 1: when he put his ice cream on a wooden stick,

278
00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,720
Speaker 1: he ended up with two U S. Patents for the process,

279
00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,760
Speaker 1: and this led to his invention the Good Humor Bar,

280
00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,520
Speaker 1: which in turn led to a rivalry for the ages

281
00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,080
Speaker 1: with the previously developed, like right along the same time,

282
00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:18,000
Speaker 1: I scream bar, I scream okay, not ice cream. I

283
00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:26,200
Speaker 1: scream okay, yeah, oh oh, Halloween themed ice cream truck.

284
00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:33,480
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'll think about that later senior years. Innovations

285
00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,320
Speaker 1: didn't stop there. After seeing the booms and fast food

286
00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,800
Speaker 1: and automobiles that was happening in the U S at

287
00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,119
Speaker 1: the time, he invested in a twelve refrigerated trucks. He

288
00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,920
Speaker 1: was one of the first ice cream vendors to move

289
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,280
Speaker 1: from push carts to motorized vehicles. This allowed him to

290
00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,360
Speaker 1: expand his business because now his salesman could cover more

291
00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:58,120
Speaker 1: ground more quickly. And it's also spawned numerous imitators and

292
00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,879
Speaker 1: was very impactful on the American eating landscape. UM and

293
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,280
Speaker 1: part kick starting the food truck. It was part of

294
00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,360
Speaker 1: that at least and in summer eating in particular. Here

295
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 1: how we thought about that in the United States. UM

296
00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,199
Speaker 1: so that the Good Humor truck design was a white

297
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,600
Speaker 1: refrigeration capable pickup truck with the Good Humor logo on

298
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,360
Speaker 1: the side, and it was equipped with bells to announce

299
00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,680
Speaker 1: their arrival. And this design was finalized in the late

300
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:33,359
Speaker 1: nineteen twenties. UM and Yeah, nostalgia for very particular types

301
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,800
Speaker 1: of bells and and chimes and music box tunes was

302
00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,919
Speaker 1: already firmly in place at this point. UM, So the

303
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 1: first trucks would have would have kept those, um, those

304
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 1: old familiar things going. Yes, and these trucks were a

305
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 1: step up from the push cart in numerous ways. One

306
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 1: of the big ones was safety. UM. The refrigeration technology

307
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,359
Speaker 1: was far better than the push carts, thus allowing for

308
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 1: a better quality and safer product. Ice Cream sold from

309
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 1: push carts had been linked to several cases of food poisoning.

310
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:08,439
Speaker 1: The Confectioner's Journal sided this concern when someone wrote that

311
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 1: they were products from them were apt to be adulterated

312
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 1: with ingredients which sacrifice health to cheapness. Yeah. All, all

313
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 1: of this was all coming up during the time when

314
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,359
Speaker 1: UM refrigeration technology was improving to the point where it

315
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 1: could be mobile and financially accessible. UM. And also when

316
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,680
Speaker 1: simultaneously all of these like like deep food safety concerns

317
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 1: and movements surrounding the industrialization of food, We're really coming

318
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 1: to a head. Yeah, and Good Humor had a strategy

319
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 1: to combat those concerns, those health and safety concerns, particularly

320
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 1: when it came wary parents, Um, remind people of hospital

321
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 1: orally that's why the drivers they wore these all white

322
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,160
Speaker 1: uniforms and complete with white caps that they were required

323
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 1: to tip when they sold things to female customers. And yes,

324
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 1: and to ninety seven the drivers were all men. You know,

325
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 1: that is a I guess, I guess I never put

326
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 1: that together that that's totally what those uniforms look like. Yeah,

327
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: they look super crisp. If you saw that out of

328
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 1: context in a horror movie, you'd be like, Okay, I've

329
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 1: been watching too many horror movies. I'm sorry. Um, but no,

330
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 1: don't know when whenever you see like like a crisp

331
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 1: white shirt in a certain type of thing, you're like, oh,

332
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: there's going to be a blood peck, right right, But

333
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: hospitals in general or not horror movies, just in this

334
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: particular context, it is very super white, super crisp. Yeah, yeah,

335
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 1: I love it. I like interesting marketing move. Oh absolutely,

336
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 1: you want to sell ice cream remind people of hospitals?

337
00:21:52,800 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 1: Go what okay? Sure, so you two have worked Uh

338
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 1: and meanwhile, business during this time, um, not up into

339
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: the sixties, but more in the you know, twenties, might

340
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: have been boosted by prohibition, UM, as some former brewers

341
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 1: were turning to um to create ice cream during the time. Yes,

342
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,719
Speaker 1: and all of this together was a very successful venture,

343
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 1: to the tune of fourteen million sales just out of

344
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: New York and Chicago by two and a driver could

345
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: make a hundred dollars in commissions a week, which is

346
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: the modern equivalent of eighteen hundred dollars. And this was

347
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: during the Great Depression. So yeah. The trucks and their

348
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: drivers often became parts of neighborhoods of their communities. There

349
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: was no passenger side door on these trucks, so the

350
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 1: drivers would often get out and open the refrigeration unit

351
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: in the back, speaking to the crowd that had gathered

352
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: excited about getting there. Their tree gets drawn out by

353
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: the bells, and neighbors would talk and laugh together, maybe

354
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: even me for the first time. UM. It was something

355
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: people looked forward to where get together as neighborhood get

356
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: togethers and parties and sleepovers for children were planned. UM

357
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 1: friendships formed. I read a lot of really, UM, I

358
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: keep saying sweet, but it's true, sweet articles about this

359
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: about people who have these memories and made these friendships

360
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: around the ice cream truck. Well, yeah, and this was

361
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 1: actually a part of the Good Humor strategy to deal

362
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: with those concerns around safety and health while also increasing

363
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: sales because by following the same route, establishing routine and

364
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 1: familiarity UM, and this expectation among children something to look

365
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: forward to, UM helped build their customer base. Sure, yes,

366
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of stories about sort of

367
00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: this dedication almost mythical status of the ice career man.

368
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: And again, according to mental Flasp, when a New York

369
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: Good Humor driver switched up his route, five hundred children

370
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: signed a petition for him to switch it back. What

371
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: oh my heck, yes, wow, I mean that's some power

372
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: right there. That that is good for those kids. They

373
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: came together for the ice cream truck. They did, Yes,

374
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 1: important causes. UM. A fleet of two thousand trucks roamed

375
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: the country by the nineteen fifties, and they did make

376
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: most of their sales to children under twelve. Makes sense,

377
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: and one Unilever purchased Good Humor after competitor Mr Softie

378
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: debut step bands that eliminated the need to get out

379
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: of the vehicle. So, like you said earlier, Lauren, the

380
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: driver could just step into the back into the freezer unit,

381
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: slide open a window and sell products from there. Um

382
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: it was easier. Good Humor did that set up soon

383
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: after and started retiring their trucks. The Mr. Softie truck

384
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: the step fan was the idea of William and James

385
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: Conway at Philadelphia and at the time sawcerve was really

386
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: popular and they wanted that too. They wanted to bring

387
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: that popularity to the streets, and they did on St.

388
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: Patrick's Day NFT six, handing out green colored sauce serve. However,

389
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: the trucks and machines weren't without their issues, getting overheated,

390
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: shutting down. Um. But through a handful of experiments, they

391
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: improved the design and functionality. It only took two years

392
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: for them to start franchising. That's how successful they were. Yeah,

393
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: only that in nineteen sixty they hired an advertising company

394
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: to write them a jingle called Mr. Softie Parentheses Jingle

395
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: and chimes. Uh. Speaking of those jingles and chimes. Um. Meanwhile,

396
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,719
Speaker 1: the Nicols Electronics Company started up in Minnesota in nineteen

397
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: fifty seven. Um. They are, I believe to this day

398
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: in the United States anyway, the biggest makers of electronic

399
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: music boxes for ice cream checks. M Well, it turns

400
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: out that these vans weren't free of health issues, so

401
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: the company was stopped with two forty four Good humor

402
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: Um charges of manipulating records to cover up high levels

403
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: of cauliform bacteria in the products in New York City

404
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy five. Yeah yeah, yeah. The indictment alleged

405
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: that of the products sold between nineteen seventy two and

406
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five, ten percent of them weren't up to code,

407
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: and they specifically called out the production facility in Queens,

408
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: reporting that it was quote not securely protected from dirt, dust,

409
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: insects and parts thereof, and from all injurious contamination. Oh

410
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. This was holded in a fine to the

411
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: company of eighty five thousand dollars and they were required

412
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: to tighten quality control and modernize all their facilities. Perhaps

413
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: because of this, Good Humor was out of the ice

414
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: cream truck fan business by pivoting instead to focus on

415
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: grocery store sales. However, some of the drivers didn't get

416
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: this memo are They just ignored it and continued to

417
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: go on their roots with their good humor vans. What yes, yes,

418
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm such. Person who did this was Joseph Viardi out

419
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: of White Plains, New York. He had been doing his

420
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: roots since the fifties, and in nineteen seventy six he

421
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: purchased the trick from Good Humor. He was such an

422
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: important and adored part of the community that when he

423
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: died in twelve, the town celebrated Good Humor Joe Day

424
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: on August six. Oh yeah, um uh. Meanwhile again, um,

425
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: back to the music part. Um, those electronic music players

426
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: and in chime systems for ice cream trucks. Um, where

427
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: we're developing fast um. By six there was a machine

428
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: called the Harmony sixteen that offered three note harmonies, very

429
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: fancy and a choice of a hundred and fifty tunes. Right,

430
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: um and yeah. The creators of these kind of things,

431
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: we're just really savvy about that like nostalgic plinky music

432
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: box sound, and tried to replicate it. Yeah. Um, And

433
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: ice cream truck innovation continues. You've got trucks selling gourmet flavors.

434
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: I read about an ice cream karioke truck. Karmo. What

435
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: oh man, I want a popsicle and some karaoke in

436
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: a in a van outside of my house that I

437
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: feel like I neighbors don't want that. The closest I

438
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: got to that was, Oh, what an embarrassing time for me.

439
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: It was middle school and you could get a free

440
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 1: oh oh, it was just like, I don't even remember

441
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: what it is, so I shouldn't have done it. But

442
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: it was something like free prize from one of those

443
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: booths at six Flags, okay. And the way you got

444
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: it was you had to sing karaoke on the stage

445
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: in front of everybody, and I sang Vanessa Carlton's one

446
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: Thousand Miles and I butchered it, and it was yeah

447
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: you did that's hey, But I did get the prize.

448
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: Even if I can't remember what it was, I think

449
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: the embarrassment of that memory has blocked out anything that

450
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: came after, any any positive Yeah. Yeah, well I learned

451
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: from my mistakes. If you're gonna sing karaoke on a

452
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: stage in front of a lot of people, make sure

453
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: it's for a really worthwhile free prize. Yes, because was

454
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: it really free? My dignity? Oh no? Um uh but yes?

455
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: Ice ice cream trucks these days? Do you all all

456
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: kinds of wacky stuff? Yeah, there's I saw things about

457
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: about savory flavored ice cream from these trucks. Yeah, milkshakes,

458
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: hand dipped cones, slushes, sodas, shaved ice, shave ice difference,

459
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: vegan options, booze boozy options. Really yeah, yeah, where is

460
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: that ice cream? Not? Not in my face right now?

461
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: And that's very sad. Um In I discovered as I

462
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: was probably miss googling things, um uh, a horror film

463
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: called The ice Cream Truck came out um and from

464
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: what I understand from the trailer, it appears that the

465
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: storyline features a local neighborhood ice cream truck driver who

466
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: is a word. Are not the truck, not the truck,

467
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: the dude? Yeah, the driver. Yeah, but they make really

468
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: good use of that crisp white uniform. Oh see blood splatter.

469
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime has been pushing this movie at me for years, really,

470
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: and I have not watched it, but and a part

471
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: of me is offended. In the other part of me like, yeah,

472
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: you're right, you know me, algorithm. Yeah, the trailer does

473
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: look awful and like the Google the Google play reviews

474
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: are kind of full of these people going like, how

475
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: do I get a refund? Oh no, oh no, But

476
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: I will say that the poster art is beautiful. It's

477
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: this big ice cream cone with pink ice cream, and

478
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: the pink ice cream is filled with these screaming faces

479
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: and the skull and like a hand with a knife,

480
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: like like made out of ice cream. It's it is

481
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: pretty spectacular. It's really I think it's really lovely. Um

482
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: and uh and I hope that all of everyone who

483
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: is involved with creating it is having a nice time.

484
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Um. In twenty nineteen, Nissan debut and electric

485
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: ice cream van in collaboration with this family owned Scottish

486
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: dairy called Mackey's of Scotland. Um. Because apparently there's been

487
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: some like kerfuffle over diesel powered ice cream vans um

488
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: over in the UK and the pollution that they cause

489
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: in municipalities around there because uh because yeah, you know,

490
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: in order to keep those those freezer units cold, um,

491
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: the trucks often sit with the engine idling during stops

492
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: and so there's this concerned They've haven't even been banned

493
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: in a few places, so yeah, uh you know, wow

494
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: mhm electric vehicles. Yeah yeah, And speaking of kerfuffle there, um,

495
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: there's been uh some of that over ice cream trucks

496
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: continuing to operate during the pandemic shot shut down. Um

497
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: like Mr Softie, like Loki asked its drivers to discontinue service.

498
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: But since they're franchise ease like corporate, couldn't really stop them.

499
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: Like they do what they want. Yeah, they do what

500
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: they want. It's like Loki, Um for soft Day, franchisees

501
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: do what they want. I mean Mr Softy, now that

502
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: you mentioned it. Also it does sound like a villain

503
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: um superhero universe. So yeah, yea yeah, oh yeah, he's

504
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: like the cigarette smoking man or something. Mr soft Yeah.

505
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. Um. And and this

506
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: brings us Yeah, probably a lot of you were waiting

507
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: when this would come up. So warning for a lot

508
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 1: of historical racism here. Um okay. So, as of August,

509
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: Riza of the Wu Tang Clan partnered with Good Humor

510
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: to write a new ice cream truck jingle to replace

511
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: one of the most used jingles called Turkey and the Straw. Um.

512
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: This song goes back to and it also goes back

513
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: to one of the most racist songs in American history,

514
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: by some accounts, the most racist song. Um. The title,

515
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: the original title is so racist. I am not going

516
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: to say it and now horrifically offensive. It's like stomach

517
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: churning racist yep. The song's tune was almost identical to

518
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: a well known nineteenth century song called Turkey This Drop,

519
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: which in itself came from an older British song called

520
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: the Old Rose Tree, lyrics of which were adapted by

521
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: Scottish and Irish immigrants settling along the Appleachian Trail. However,

522
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: the song didn't really cement itself in the lines of

523
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: most Americans until they heard it as a part of

524
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: traveling blackface minstrel shows. By the twenties, the tune had

525
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: been co opted by these shows with super racist lyrics

526
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: um zivity doo dab eventually derived from all this as well. Uh.

527
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: These minstrel songs were frequently played in ice cream shops,

528
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: and when ice cream trucks took off, their radios played

529
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: them too. Yeah, and you've probably heard this. It all

530
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: went viral with an article written by Theodore R. Johnson

531
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: the third for MPR called recalled the ice cream chuck

532
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: song we have Unpleasant News for you in Yeah, that

533
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: was the first time I had heard of it, and

534
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, oh no, uh, and it was

535
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: I think it was in the midst of like just

536
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: lots of other stuff going on, and I was like,

537
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: really like ice cream trucks too, Yeah yeah yeah um

538
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: so yeah, that um terribly tainted piece of music. Um

539
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: is now being withdrawn from the repertoire of these music

540
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: boxes that companies like Nichols Um sell to ice cream

541
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: trucks for use, which is really great. Um and uh

542
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm so, I'm absolutely so delighted that Risa

543
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,959
Speaker 1: teamed up with Good Humor to to produce a new one. Yes,

544
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: and I really dig it. I think it's great. No, yeah, No,

545
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: it's really good. It's really good. I oh man, I

546
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: was like late to this recording. I was telling Annie

547
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: and Andrew that, yeah, like because I was just watching

548
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: so many interviews with A talking about ice cream trucks. Yeah,

549
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: and he shared like his experiences with them growing up

550
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: and being so excited as a kid. Um yeah yeah.

551
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: So definitely check those out and check the song oh

552
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah and it and it does incorporate that

553
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: same like music box kind of sound, so so it's

554
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: really cool. Yep. So that's about what we have to

555
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: say on ice cream trucks. I feel like we've gone

556
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: through a wild adventure here. Uh huh, yeah, we we do.

557
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: We do have some listener mail for you, but first

558
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: we've got one more quick break forward from our sponsor

559
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: and we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you, and

560
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: we're back with listener man. It's hard to make plinky

561
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: music box. You're saying something yeah, and it's hard to

562
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: synchronize that um with someone over an internet delayed Skype chat,

563
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: but you're doing We'll live on just like my karaoke performance,

564
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: well live on perfect. I was trying to with my

565
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: fingers communicate, but it's just hard sometimes. I'm also I'm

566
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: not that musically inclined, so I don't I've like never

567
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: taken like direction from from you know, from a conductor. Yeah,

568
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: maybe I should incorporate. I mean, it's pretty simple. I

569
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: could teach you and then I'll incorporate that and these

570
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: will elevate even more. I'm sure elevate is exactly the word. Yes,

571
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: yes it is. Um Brittany wrote. I checked up when

572
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: I saw that you were doing an episode on kool

573
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: Aid because my partner was just telling me about a

574
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory video he saw about the kool Aid Man.

575
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: Since the kool Aid Man is canonically part of the

576
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: Marvel universe. Someone actually went through and tallied up all

577
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: his powers based on the commercials and video games to

578
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: rank him in comparison to other Marvel characters. Apparently the

579
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: kool aid And is powerful. I'm a level of fanos,

580
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: I thought, and he might be interested in the kool

581
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: Aid Man's potential as an Avenger or Marvel villain. Yes,

582
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: I am. Oh my gosh, yes, oh I love this

583
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: and I also love um how many of you have

584
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: sent in cool fulu art? Yes, whether you found it

585
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: or made on your own, it's amazing it is You've

586
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: are so talented. Yes, all of it is so good,

587
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: so good. Um. And yeah just on just on Twitter today,

588
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: uh we got we got a D and D monster

589
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: that someone wrote up the Blade Man cool Yeah yeah

590
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: um and also also yeah, just just like a little

591
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: piece of art questioning whether the kool Aid Man is

592
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: the Jug or the kool Aid Know. That really threw me.

593
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: I gotta admit, um, it kind of disturbed me more

594
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: than I was expecting. Yeah. We just have so many

595
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: unanswered questions here we do. Um, and there's just you know,

596
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's an appropriate expert in this

597
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: to to turn to. I think this is one of

598
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: those questions that you just have you have to answer

599
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: for yourself. Oh no, I can't go down that rabbit hole.

600
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: I'll never come out. I have to find a new host.

601
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: Well happen to Annie? She went down the kool Aid

602
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: rabbit hole? No, she's still thinking about kool Aid. I

603
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: don't know. I have like one of my conspiracy like

604
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: bread boards. Yeah, oh no, that is not what I

605
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: need right now. No, no, no, no, nobody I suspect

606
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 1: nobody needs at um. Well, well, okay, come come away

607
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: with me. Because because Brooke wrote um as a Southerner,

608
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: I had to pause the Strawberry episode to laugh and

609
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: wonder how the heck Lauren was able to say the

610
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: term for strawberry fragrance uh for Rannie all without hearing

611
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: in a thick Southern drawl for Rannie y'all. That's my

612
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: new cheers that I want my life for Rannie y'all.

613
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: And I'll be like, are you talking about the strawberry fragrance? All?

614
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: Me be a real winner every every time? Yeah yeah

615
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: uh uh. Brook also said um as one D and

616
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: D fantasy loving nerd to another. Thank you so much

617
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: for for all the hard work. Thank you for listening. Yes,

618
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: thank you, I'm so glad Nerdy tangents resonates with some

619
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: people at least. Yeah, well, I I strongly suspect that

620
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: anyone for whom they do not resonate has has loved,

621
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: has has either chosen to just like be amused about

622
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: them and not comment, or yes, has shown themselves the

623
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: podcast door. It's all good. We have wonderful listeners right

624
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: here with us. Yes, yes, um, thanks to both of

625
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: them for writing. If you'd like to write to us,

626
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: you can, and we would love to hear from you.

627
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: Our email is hello at savor pod dot com, and

628
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: we are also on social media. You can find us

629
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram at savor pod in

630
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: all three places, and we would love to hear from you.

631
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: Savor is production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts

632
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 1: to my Heart Radio, you can visit the I Heart

633
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your

634
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: favorite shows. Thanks as always to our superproducers Dylan Fagin

635
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: and Andrew Howard. Thanks to you for listening, and we

636
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: hope that lots more good things are coming your way,