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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's you live on a Friday edition of

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Speaker 2: the program. I am merely Bo Gibbe.

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Speaker 3: There he is.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen in studio in the flesh, Babe.

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Speaker 4: Telling you, I don't know where our host is today, but.

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope he's playing golf.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he shouldn't be. I'm going to be really

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Speaker 4: angry if he.

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Speaker 2: Hey, he should this day he's free. No, if it's

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Speaker 2: they'd be like last week saying like, where's Gibbe. Well

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Speaker 2: he's entire Uscany. Well he can't be in Tuscany.

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Speaker 4: We're here. Look, you're gonna be on paternity leave well

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Speaker 4: starting Monday. Yeah, you could have come in today, I

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Speaker 4: think and given us a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give him the grace he is. He

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Speaker 2: is our age. He is our age. He's inmar to

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Speaker 2: embark on a newborn. So not it like not it

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Speaker 2: that's what he's doing, buddy. So I I think he

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Speaker 2: needs he needs the silence, so I should give him

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Speaker 2: a pass. I think pass. Yeah, this instance, I'll say

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Speaker 2: pass that he deserves a little bit of ground. So

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Speaker 2: hopefully he gets I know, he had a lot of

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Speaker 2: work to do, so hopefully he gets to play. But

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Speaker 2: it was kind of misty on the way over here.

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Speaker 2: And then we're dealing with the We got all this

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Speaker 2: Canadian wildfire smog that's out there, which is real.

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Speaker 4: So this is now starting to potentially impact my my

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Speaker 4: little trip Fourth of July week because we're going to Canada.

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Speaker 4: We're going up into Niagara Falls. You are, Yeah, We're

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Speaker 4: going up to Niagara on the Lake with the fam. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I got a little house up there. Yeah yeah, because

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Speaker 4: guess who doesn't celebrate Fourth of July Canadians, they don't.

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Speaker 4: You can get an airbnb really really cheap, whatever you want,

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Speaker 4: really good, nice little place.

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Speaker 4: And now I'm like, well, if it's just going to

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Speaker 4: be smoke all day, or it.

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Speaker 2: Should, I will tell you that scrowing up where I did,

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Speaker 2: like we fire season was something you dealt with. It

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Speaker 2: was something that when I was a kid, it was

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Speaker 2: now is pretty adamant that basically every year is fire year.

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Speaker 2: It's just the way that it is. And this is

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Speaker 2: way earlier then you typically should be getting this. And

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Speaker 2: these fires are from British Columbia, which look on the map, kids,

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Speaker 2: it's a long ways and that's where the smoke's from.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's the thing that's a little bit odd

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Speaker 2: is that this time of year and this is the

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Speaker 2: second didn't we have it last year too?

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Speaker 4: We did.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we had a two years in a row where

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Speaker 2: you're getting their smoke, But that's the way the wind blows,

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Speaker 2: so that's the way that that's the way that it happens.

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Speaker 2: Ota Practice number six wrap up outside one week from today.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe we're here. The off season program will conclude.

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Speaker 4: I know, I feel like it has been a much

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Speaker 4: shorter period here or time is just I.

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Speaker 2: Think you're just on vacation. Well, I think because there's

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Speaker 2: there's been times where these weeks feel like months.

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Speaker 4: We haven't had as much availability though either we haven't

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Speaker 4: we normally it's been once a week in the month

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Speaker 4: of May, yeah, we or or in a couple of

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Speaker 4: weeks before the draft and availability. You know, the team

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Speaker 4: didn't even come back till the week of the draft.

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Speaker 2: No, And I think I think the other thing about

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Speaker 2: about these OTAs that have been particularly interesting is that

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Speaker 2: what is the fact that we have a four headed

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Speaker 2: quarterback competition and so you're viewing these I don't remember

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Speaker 2: ever what was happening at OTAs being chronicled and watched

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Speaker 2: the way that it is this year. I just don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't recall that in my time here now and

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Speaker 2: like that spring, yeah, when he showed up here for

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Speaker 2: So I can't speak on that. You were here, obviously

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Speaker 2: have not seen an OTA session like this where it

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Speaker 2: is so closely monitored, and it's deservedly so the folk

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Speaker 2: it's monitored for a reason. We have four quarterbacks, So

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Speaker 2: that's that all is very real, But it's unlike any

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Speaker 2: other OTA we've had where the demand and the attendance

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I'm trying to think of the last time

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Speaker 2: We haven't. I mean, you have maybe with two guys,

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Speaker 2: like when's the last two timer, like open because it

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Speaker 2: was said that like it was gonna be tired maybe

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Speaker 2: was him and Hoyer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then him and McCown the following year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So coming out of Johnny's rookie year, he wasn't

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think they were like, we're

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Speaker 4: because Hoyer didn't want a mentor anything, right, right, right right,

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Speaker 4: And I don't blame yeah, no, no, no, no, I mean

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Speaker 4: you were six and three at one point, yeah, before

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Speaker 4: before you didn't win another game the rest of the year.

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Speaker 4: Uh no, seven and four sorry, seven and four, yeah,

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Speaker 4: and then you lost five in a row.

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Speaker 2: So it's been a while it. Oh, I know that

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Speaker 2: the Kaiser year, the Windless year. Yeah, that then you

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Speaker 2: had because in that that fall, we had. I remember

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Speaker 2: doing a show we had Osweiler, Kaiser, Kessler.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, baby Carrots, Clipboard, Jesus and Kaiser.

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Speaker 2: They were all in the mix.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So this is the first time since that that

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Speaker 2: we've had and this one the stakes are far higher.

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Speaker 2: You've got two it's such a unique room. Two rookies. Pickett,

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Speaker 2: a little older than Dylan, not much young guy. Can

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Speaker 2: you resuscitate a career with an offense that takes care

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Speaker 2: of its quarterback? And then you have Flacco, who's.

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Speaker 4: Just super Bowl champ, this ultimate pro?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's just the ultimate pro. He had a

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Speaker 2: he's he's just so impressive and everything that he does,

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Speaker 2: he's just so natural. I saw we put out a

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Speaker 2: of that. I thought, everything he says is just he

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Speaker 2: a fully formed thing. Thank God Zegara is not here,

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Speaker 2: because at the end of that clip he says he

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Speaker 2: wanted to wear sixteen in high school for Joe Montana,

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Speaker 2: and they didn't have it correct, and we would have

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Speaker 2: got ten minutes on Montana.

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Speaker 4: Yep, maybe we would have needed it today.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But that's so next week we'll have that to it too.

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Speaker 2: So when you get to mandatory mini camp, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: have an even bigger emphasis because, like I said this

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Speaker 2: earlier in the week, all of the pieces matter in

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Speaker 2: this thing, and so everything these guys do is being

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Speaker 2: want monitored every snap, every minute they're in the building,

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Speaker 2: every whiteboard session, it's all being watched, and the stakes

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Speaker 2: are pretty high.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, team meeting Monday, late day. I want to say

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Speaker 4: in the five o'clock hour. Everybody's got to be in

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Speaker 2: I think on Mondayday, Wednesday, Thursday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

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Speaker 4: By Thursday at one o'clock, we're done.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 4: It schools out for summer.

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Speaker 2: What time are the practices next week? Have you seen

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Speaker 2: this game?

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Speaker 4: Yes, practices will be I want to say on that sheet.

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Speaker 2: Eleven forty maybe kind of in this window, like eleven

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Speaker 4: I know, I know we're all up at around one

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Speaker 2: On Okay, so the podiums and stuff will yeah'll be,

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Speaker 2: They'll be during our show. Yeah yeah, young Brock. Now

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Speaker 4: It's fine. Mini camps at eleven thirty, eleven thirty, and

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Speaker 4: ten forty five.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so those will all be done. It'll all be

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Speaker 4: Yep, exactly. But again, this is where you're starting to

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Speaker 4: formulate who's going to get the meaningful reps when training

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Speaker 4: camp starts. Maybe it's not the actual depth chart, but

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Speaker 4: it's the depth chart internally that determines its all. You know,

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Speaker 4: what happens. So I there's a lot riding on next week.

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Speaker 4: It's an important week for this franchise for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: It's it's so critical, you know. It's that there's so

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Speaker 2: many different ways that this season can go next year,

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Speaker 2: and so many different ways this room can go next year.

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Speaker 2: And when you look at the start of the season

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Speaker 2: and you look at that schedule, it's just hard for

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Speaker 2: me to imagine a scenario where it's anyone other than

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Speaker 2: why unless one of them just is spectacular in camp,

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Speaker 2: and then be thrown to the Wolves in that way,

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Speaker 2: because that is such a punch in the face that

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Speaker 2: start to the season to go Cincinnati Baltimore right away

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Speaker 2: and then still Detroit and Green Bay in there, play Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it finishes with Pittsburgh. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: just a brutal six game stretch. Yeah, I mean that's

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Speaker 2: it's AFC North, NFC North. Yeah right, Yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 2: it's all of it.

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Speaker 4: Arguably the two best divisions in football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely no, So it's you know that. That's the

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Speaker 2: thing is you're there's gonna be and they've done a

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Speaker 2: really good job in OTA's I'm guessing they'll do it

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Speaker 2: next week in mandatory mini camp as well of kind

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Speaker 2: of doling out the reps and making sure everybody gets

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Speaker 2: a real good look. They're running the two fields very

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Speaker 2: much like college, where you would you'll have two fields

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Speaker 2: running at the same time. So I think all of

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Speaker 2: those things are helpful and really all of this stuff

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Speaker 2: does matter. Speaking of Kenny Pickett twenty seventh birthday today.

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Speaker 4: Big deal for him, Happy birthday, Get the celebration out

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Speaker 4: of the way, and get ready for next week. But

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Speaker 4: I agree with you, I just from a veteran standpoint. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and that having that stable influence while you get while

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Speaker 4: you get the rookies up to speed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Again, the rookies haven't seen how an NFL week works.

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Speaker 4: They haven't seen what it takes after you play a

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Speaker 4: game and how quickly you got to turn the page

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Speaker 4: to the next one. Like, yeah, you do that in college,

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Speaker 4: but you do it at this level in a much

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Speaker 4: more intense way.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to think, Oh gosh, yeah, yeah for sure.

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Speaker 2: So it's that's that's why Ota has been fun. Next

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Watch The Longest Day.

435
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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

436
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Speaker 4: I mean the cast and this is everybody old school movie,

437
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Speaker 4: but it's it's got everything.

438
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Speaker 2: The screenplay was written, I'll be danged.

439
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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, history buff like you, my friend, you should watch that.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if it's streaming any good question?

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Speaker 4: You know.

443
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Speaker 2: I found this new app. It's probably not new to most.

444
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Speaker 4: People, but it's new to me. We're in our late forty,

445
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Speaker 4: so therefore it's new.

446
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Speaker 2: There's an app called just Watch Have you heard of this?

447
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Speaker 1: No?

448
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Speaker 2: All right, there's an app called just Watch. I got

449
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 2: turned on to this and what it because I was

450
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Speaker 2: complaining in the morning about how my kids will just

451
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Speaker 2: go to Amazon and buy things a lot of time

452
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Speaker 2: that we have.

453
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Speaker 4: Okay.

454
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 2: And so you go on this app, you type in

455
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Speaker 2: the movie or show and then it will tell you

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Speaker 2: where it's streaming or where you can buy it.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

458
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 2: So for this so this the longest day you can

459
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Speaker 2: you can rent it at Apple TV.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's where you can rent it. Yeah, highly recommend.

461
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Speaker 2: Yeah. The perspective of the Germans, the Americans, the British,

462
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Speaker 2: the Canadians, and the free French.

463
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Speaker 4: Wow.

464
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Speaker 2: So it shows you through oh wow, the German perspective

465
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Speaker 2: of it too. Yes, one of my father's favorite movies.

466
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Speaker 2: That's pretty good. That is very good. Yeah, that's cool.

467
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'll give me something to do.

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Speaker 4: There you go. It's just it's amazing what that generation did. Oh.

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Speaker 2: I think when I I said last summer, I watched

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Speaker 2: Band of Brothers with the thirteen year old, and would

471
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Speaker 2: you And I've seen it a bunch of as much

472
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Speaker 2: as I've seen any series, but the idea that they

473
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Speaker 2: didn't know what a paratrooper was and within a matter

474
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Speaker 2: of months they were not only as as expert as

475
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Speaker 2: you can be on it, but then doing it to

476
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Speaker 2: jump into France and fight Germans as soon as you

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Speaker 2: landed on the ground, Yes, within months.

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Speaker 4: Is it crazy You're going to jump into an area

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Speaker 4: and be surrounded right away fighting for your life. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The moment basically the moment you jump out of the plane.

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Speaker 2: Down well, and then their planes were getting shot out

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Speaker 2: of the sky lift and right, I mean no, it's

483
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Speaker 2: a different levels. It's just a totally different thing.

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Speaker 4: It is the things that were done and what they

485
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Speaker 4: had to go through and everything again, like you said,

486
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Speaker 4: to save the world essentially.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't even know if they knew all

488
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Speaker 2: of the horrors that the Nazis were up to at

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Speaker 2: that point. You didn't, you know, you didn't know until

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Speaker 2: much late in the war when you got into you know,

491
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Speaker 2: Eastern Europe that you were able to see for yourself.

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Speaker 2: But like there was it was just the aggression, is

493
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Speaker 2: what that That what prompted us, and obviously Pearl Harbor

494
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Speaker 2: got us rolling. But like man oh Man to the

495
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Speaker 2: idea that a six months before that, you didn't know

496
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Speaker 2: what a paratrooper was, and then all of a sudden

497
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Speaker 2: you find yourself being an expert in one and then

498
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Speaker 2: and then landing on a on a on the ground

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Speaker 2: in France to fight.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have you put on this backpack. You're gonna

501
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Speaker 4: pull this cord. Something's going to pop out and you're

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Speaker 4: gonna float down. Sure, but you're gonna jump from about

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Speaker 4: two thousand feet up in the air, maybe more than that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nuts.

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Speaker 4: Okay, great, I'll sign up for it. Where do I

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Speaker 4: sign up?

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Speaker 2: The best?

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Speaker 4: Very best?

509
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Speaker 2: So yeah, there's some good things to check out, and

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Speaker 2: I'll check out the longest day. That looks pretty damn good.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: This was a really interesting thing that was done by

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Speaker 2: some folks at CBS Sports. We had Ryan Wilson on

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Speaker 2: at the combine, didn't we correct? So we had him

515
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Speaker 2: on at the combine. He was a really cool interview,

516
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Speaker 2: really cool to meet him in person. So he did

517
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Speaker 2: a podcast called with the First Pick and he does

518
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Speaker 2: it with rand Carthin And one of the things that

519
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Speaker 2: they did is they did a conversation with Andrew Berry

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Speaker 2: and James Gladscowe the Jacksonville Jaguars GM about the trade

521
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Speaker 2: at the top of the draft. We're gonna play some

522
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Speaker 2: of that for you. It's fascinating stuff, really cool premise.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to that, though, I want to tell

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Speaker 2: you that those are your hot topics today, presented by

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Speaker 2: University Hospitals, official healthcare partner of Your Cleveland Browns. That

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Speaker 2: conversation with Gladstone and Barry will have some excerpts for

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned, this is from CBS Sports. The name

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Speaker 2: of the podcast is With the First Pick. It features

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Speaker 2: CBS NFL Draft analyst Ryan Wilson, who we've had on

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Speaker 2: the show, and former NFL general manager Ran Carthon. This

539
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Speaker 2: conversation we're gonna play in three separate little X scripts

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Speaker 2: involves a conversation between that happened at the very top

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Speaker 2: of the draft. It involves us, our general manager AB

542
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Speaker 2: and the general manager of the Jacksonville Jaguars, James Gladstone.

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Speaker 2: Very interested to listen to this. I've not heard this yet.

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Speaker 2: Here's part one. How the trade conversation got started?

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Speaker 6: James, you didn't have a relationship with Andrew before the

546
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Speaker 6: trade that happened on April twenty third, trading up from

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Speaker 6: five to two to get Travis Hunter. So I'll just

548
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Speaker 6: ask this quickly and then Rain you can take over.

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Speaker 6: I'll get my question here. So how did that conversation

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Speaker 6: begin when you're number one? You're young GM, so you

551
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Speaker 6: may not know as many gms as older GM Mike.

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Speaker 6: And then how did it go from there to get

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Speaker 6: to the point where you guys were able to consummate

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Speaker 6: that draft trade?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I think Andrew correct me if I'm wrong. Along the

557
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Speaker 7: way here with the finer details, the further we get

558
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Speaker 7: away from at the fog gear it gets. But nonetheless,

559
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Speaker 7: I think the owner meetings it served as a good

560
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Speaker 7: touch point for many of the general managers, especially for

561
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Speaker 7: those that are the first time in the seat, and

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Speaker 7: that was where Andrew and I were able to make

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Speaker 7: an initial touch point, though brief, and from there, once

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Speaker 7: our internal leadership dynamic was beginning to have deeper dialogue

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Speaker 7: about the draft itself, reached out to a few teams

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Speaker 7: there in front of us, and Andrew being one who

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Speaker 7: showed some level of openness to have a larger conversation,

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Speaker 7: and that continued to include more details with a few

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Speaker 7: additional touch points as time went on. But nonetheless, I

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Speaker 7: think it was roughly two weeks out from the draft

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Speaker 7: that we really had a strong framework for what ultimately

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Speaker 7: ended ended up being what we were able to execute

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Speaker 7: once Cleveland was officially on the clock. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 7: I got to give a lot of credit to Andrew

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Speaker 7: for being as professional and graceful and as clear of

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Speaker 7: a communicator as he was throughout that process. You know,

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Speaker 7: I'd like to think that that's what every train is

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Speaker 7: going to look like in the future, But at the

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Speaker 7: same time, I think if I do, I'm setting myself

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Speaker 7: up for disappointment. But I can't say at this point,

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Speaker 7: with them feeling like it was what was in the

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Speaker 7: best interests of their franchise, us feeling like it was

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Speaker 7: in the best interest of where we were, and what

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Speaker 7: we we felt like was best for the future. I

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Speaker 7: think it's It's been an enjoyable process to date, and

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Speaker 7: I think it can be a win win.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Can I may I add something here? Ryan, Absolutely, I

589
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Speaker 3: just say this.

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Speaker 5: It's you know, it's interesting because you know, like like

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Speaker 5: James mentioned, we really didn't have a like a pre

592
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Speaker 5: existing relationship really before the spring, and for a deal

593
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Speaker 5: that big and to kind of keep it under wraps

594
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Speaker 5: for that long, you know, typically there has to be

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Speaker 5: a really strong trust between the general managers and the organizations,

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Speaker 5: and that's not that's not easy to build in a

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Speaker 5: short period of time, you know from my perspective, Like, Okay, James,

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Speaker 5: the youngest GM in the in the Lee Young family.

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Speaker 5: Like when we talked like just his value system, how

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Speaker 5: he communicated his intelligence, it was one of those things

601
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Speaker 5: like how have I not met this guy before? You know,

602
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Speaker 5: one of the you know, one of those situations, and

603
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Speaker 5: everybody who knew him spoke slowly of him. And I

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Speaker 5: really can't commend him and the Jaguars enough for just

605
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Speaker 5: He's right, Not all trades go that smoothly from a

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Speaker 5: communication and operational standpoint, and really just even from a

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Speaker 5: trustworthiness standpoint.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's really cool.

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Speaker 5: Like, you know, we both we both joke, hopefully will

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Speaker 5: be making a lot of deals over the you know,

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Speaker 5: over the next few years and doing this for a

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Speaker 5: long time. But this first one was certainly was certainly

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Speaker 5: a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a blockbuster. So that's how the conversation

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Speaker 2: got started. The the group continues. Here's a b on

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Speaker 2: his thought process throughout the trade.

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Speaker 8: I know you guys spoke briefly at the owners meetings,

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Speaker 8: but what was your initial thought process when you got

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Speaker 8: that call from James and you saw that he was

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Speaker 8: serious about coming.

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Speaker 3: Up to two.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so, you know, the initial thought process was, this

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Speaker 5: gives us, you know, this gives us really the opportunity

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Speaker 5: to to walk a number of a number.

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Speaker 2: Of different paths.

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Speaker 5: You're really entering the off season, you know, coming off

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Speaker 5: of a disappointing year and having uncertainty around the quarterback position,

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Speaker 5: as well as a core group of players that were,

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Speaker 5: you know, really approaching the end of their career. You know,

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Speaker 5: we we knew we were we were due for a

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Speaker 5: little bit of a strategic pivot, and that could be

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Speaker 5: in a variety of ways. When you're sitting with the

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Speaker 5: number two pick, you know, probably the most direct path

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Speaker 5: is you take a take a young quarterback, you know,

635
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Speaker 5: hit on him, and it's the most important position in sports.

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Speaker 5: You know what the alternative passes you take a non

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Speaker 5: quarterback that you know in this position potentially the best

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Speaker 5: player in the draft with with Travis and someone that

639
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Speaker 5: the league hasn't really seen before in terms of.

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Speaker 2: A two way player.

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Speaker 5: And then the third avenue, which you've seen teams really

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Speaker 5: like Philadelphia and Detroit maybe walk this route where you're

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Speaker 5: able to take a very good player but significantly increase

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00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 5: the amount of resources that you have to build the

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Speaker 5: team over a multi year time horizon. And you know,

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Speaker 5: I remember, like, you know, one of the one of

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Speaker 5: the first conversations we have with James and he expressed

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Speaker 5: the interest in coming up. You know, I was like, hey, essentially, well,

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Speaker 5: like you know, what are you thinking is this like,

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Speaker 5: because I mean, Ran and James you both know this

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Speaker 5: that some inquiries are just more calls for to check

652
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Speaker 5: the box, and then others are actually serious inquiries. I

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Speaker 5: remember telling James, I was like, you know, you know,

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Speaker 5: we're in a position where we're probably either going to

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Speaker 5: take a quarterback or we'll take the best player in

656
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Speaker 5: the draft. So for us to move off of the pick,

657
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Speaker 5: it's got to be something significant that you know, that

658
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Speaker 5: that really helps our organization over the long run. And

659
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 5: James was sayious because you know, look, Travis is a

660
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 5: really good player. He's a really good player, and you know,

661
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Speaker 5: I would be shocked if he's not a really good

662
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Speaker 5: player for a long time in Jacksonville. But for us

663
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 5: where our team's life cycle was, you know, we felt

664
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Speaker 5: like that was a real meaningful opportunity for us to

665
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Speaker 5: get another very good player, but you know, really kind

666
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Speaker 5: of replenish the resources that we have to build a

667
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Speaker 5: team over this year next.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So a lot of interesting stuff there in terms

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Speaker 2: of what you can do at number two in the

670
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Speaker 2: way that you can reshape things. That phrase, I've never

671
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Speaker 2: heard that the strategic pivot correct.

672
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,959
Speaker 4: I have not heard that either. Yeah, And I know

673
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 4: that we've got some guys that are getting up there

674
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Speaker 4: in age, but we still have a decent stable of

675
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 4: younger players as well that are on first contracts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, we've we've spent a lot of

677
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: time kind of in that moment talking about how that

678
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: deal got done, why you make that deal. It's going

679
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: to be judged really on two things, and this isn't

680
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: reinventing the wheel. Is Travis Hunter a super duper star, right?

681
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: And what impact does he have? And what does Jacksonville

682
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: do with him? Do they let him play both ways?

683
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: Does he focus here? And then is he here? Is

684
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: he the missing piece for them? The way I read

685
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: that from Abe's perspective is one player that is not

686
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: a quarterback added to this team was not going to

687
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: be a missing piece. That's my interpretation of what he's

688
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: saying there. Is that correct, Travis is something we've maybe

689
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: never seen in the league before. But if you add

690
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: him to our team, we still have the same problems

691
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: that we have. And there's this other trade route allows

692
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: us to fix some of those other problems. You get

693
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: at bats, you get a number one again. Next year,

694
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: you get the pick up what you picked up this year,

695
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: you got Judkins. You got Judkins out of it. So

696
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: this allows you to plug a lot of holes. Whereas

697
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: once quarterback and they clearly were not quarterback, we're not

698
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: comfortable with any other quarterback at two other than cam Ward.

699
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 2: And once it became abundantly apparent that cam Ward was

700
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: going to go number one, to Tennessee. Then the reality

701
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: was that whoever they took it to was not going

702
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 2: to be was not going to change the direction of

703
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: the immediacy of this franchise other than a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: So I didn't cut this up. But later on in

705
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 4: the podcast, they asked the Jags GM, were you concerned

706
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 4: that Travis Hunter was going to go number one? He

707
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 4: goes We never we knew cam Ward was number one. Yeah, Like,

708
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 4: there was never a doubt in our minds. We knew

709
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 4: we had to get to two to get Hunter. We

710
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 4: didn't have to go to one. Yeah.

711
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: And the crazy thing so many things it's crazy about that,

712
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: But what's most crazy about it is is because now

713
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: this all of the I'm kind of like the Jags

714
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: GM like it's foggy because we lived this every single day.

715
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: But the crazy thing about that is coming out of

716
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: going into the combine, there really wasn't a consensus one

717
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 2: And it wasn't until after the combine that we said, oh,

718
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: cam Ward's going one, Like then it became known. Yeah,

719
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Speaker 2: But going into it, that wasn't it. It was very

720
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: much a two horse race between Ward and Shadur for

721
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 2: number one overall, at least that's what most of us

722
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 2: believed and then turned out the way that it did.

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Speaker 2: All right, Here is the third part. This is ab

724
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: and the community communication internally that it takes to pull

725
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: off a trade of this magnitude.

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00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 8: Everyone sees the trade and you know, knows that it

727
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 8: goes down on draft night, but they don't understand the

728
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 8: communication that happens within the organization to make this happen.

729
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 8: So could you talk about your communication processes with your

730
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 8: respective owners, your head coach, your staff, the coaching staff.

731
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Speaker 8: Can you just give us the parameters of how that

732
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Speaker 8: goes down for our viewers.

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Speaker 5: As Ran you alluded to and James you mentioned, it

734
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 5: is not you know, these trades aren't a situation or

735
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 5: just James and I talk and then you know, six

736
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 5: hours later, hey it feels done. We're going to move forward.

737
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 5: There's there's a at times, I joke as a general manager,

738
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 5: you have to be a little bit the majority of

739
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 5: majority whip, you know, for you know, for you know, uh,

740
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 5: any type of big decision. And so from our perspective,

741
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 5: the context that I would kind of give our our

742
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 5: listeners is for the whole spring. You know, we're traveling

743
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 5: the country to get to know a select group of

744
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 5: prospects that we might consider with the number two pick.

745
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 5: And it goes from a point where you hear about

746
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 5: them at the school and you watch them on the

747
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 5: film to where you truly start to like get to

748
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 5: know them and build a relationship and you know, meet

749
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 5: their support system and everything. And you know, when you're

750
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 5: picking as high as we were, you can kind of

751
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 5: envision them, you know, in your program, envision them on

752
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 5: you know, on the field, and you're building and as

753
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 5: you work deeper in the process, like you you you

754
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 5: do develop like a natural attachment to you know, to

755
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 5: these to these people, right they're they're people first and

756
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 5: and and player second. And so you know when that happens,

757
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 5: when you know James presented, you know, an opportunity to

758
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 5: to do to consummate a deal, it's like, Okay, we

759
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 5: want to be very thoughtful about this because we've done

760
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 5: a lot of work on these on these individuals. We

761
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 5: feel like it's a very short list that that can

762
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 5: make a major impact for the organization both on the

763
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 5: field and then you know, in the locker room. And

764
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 5: let's make sure that we're considering all elements of this.

765
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 5: So from our perspective, like where we've gone to James's point,

766
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 5: from year one to year six, there's a call it

767
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 5: a small uh cross functional group that I would call

768
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 5: like our senior cabinet, you know, that would have a

769
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 5: number of different lines research and strategy, scouting, contract management,

770
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 5: you know, things like that, where it's not everybody who's

771
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 5: necessarily like minded and looking at tenseively the pros and

772
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 5: consonant transaction obviously Louke, you know, Luke, Kevin and Kevin

773
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 5: into it like hey, you know, this is maybe a

774
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 5: little bit of a a detour that we thought could

775
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 5: be available, but now there's actually a there's actually a

776
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 5: route that we can take if we choose to, if

777
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 5: we choose to do so, you know, here, here are

778
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 5: the pros, here are the cons and then once there's

779
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 5: i'd say maybe an initial view or recommendation with being

780
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 5: ownership in to get you know, to get their perspective

781
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 5: as well, because you know, I think James would say this,

782
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 5: when you're picking is hot, You're when you're picking the

783
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 5: top five, you're hoping that player is going to be

784
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 5: a cornerstone, a face of the organization for you know,

785
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 5: hopefully over a decade if the guy stays healthy in place,

786
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 5: well can it can be a like a true organizational pillar.

787
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: And so that's something that has to be.

788
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 5: A collaborative discussion, you know, before you make decision. That's

789
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 5: not something that should be or could be done unilaterally.

790
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's there's how a deal like that gets done.

791
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: What ab said there at the end is the part

792
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 2: that's really critical. And this is where it'll fall on

793
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: Mason Graham because he ends up being that pick and

794
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: then you're gonna get a one next year from them.

795
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: So like this pick this year with Mason Graham in

796
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: the first round, the two number one picks next year,

797
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: next year's draft, those three players have to be when

798
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: we move into the dome, they are face of the

799
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: franchise guys, yep. Because the guys who are here now

800
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: were the guys we drafted in the you know, five

801
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: six years ago. They're going to be on the back

802
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: end of it at that point. So like those guys

803
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 2: need to be if we're gonna if if the time

804
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: you go to the Dome you're humming at that point,

805
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: those three ones need to.

806
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 4: Be dudes that I mean, that's how you get back.

807
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 4: That's your picks from the Watson trade.

808
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: That's it. You have to hit on all those got

809
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: to be hits.

810
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I get it. You got a stockpile

811
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 4: and first round picks are five year contracts, you know,

812
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: and that's you haven't had one for four years basically. Yeah.

813
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean k Newsom was your last number one

814
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: mm hmm. Yeah, so you need that. That's how this

815
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: whole thing be judged. And I think you can understand

816
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: how Jacksonville this is. I know that the view of

817
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 2: it was that we won the trade because of the

818
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: get back. It ended up being a it ended up

819
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: being a you cannot possibly pass this up. Deals correct

820
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: far exceeded like the draft. They have that thing where

821
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: it's like what you should get, you know.

822
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 4: A compensation.

823
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that board far exceeded that. But if Travis Hunter

824
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: is a stud in Jacksonville and is someone who is

825
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: not only a weapon offensively for Trevor Lawrence, but also

826
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Speaker 2: as a difference maker in the back end of their

827
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 2: secondary and he's the difference between between them being because

828
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Speaker 2: they've got everything else, They've got the quarterback, they've they've

829
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Speaker 2: got all the young talent. They were a guy away

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Speaker 2: at least that's kind of the way I view them,

831
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Speaker 2: and maybe I overvalue them. I don't know, but you

832
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: are I really like their roster. I just think they're

833
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: pretty I like Lawrence more than maybe I should, quite honestly, Like,

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00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: I'll give you the blind spot to me, I don't

835
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 2: see any reason why he's he hasn't been better to me.

836
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: Checks every box. There's no reason they have all the

837
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: weapons on offense and get a solid defense. Now they

838
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: had an Hunter, like, they should be able to contend

839
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: with Houston in that division. The division's up for grabs,

840
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: it should be I mean those two teams, I mean

841
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: I think five hundred. Yeah, but yeah, no, you're right.

842
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 2: I mean that's so for both I guess my point

843
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 2: of this, and it's probably why these two guys, why

844
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Speaker 2: AB and James Landstone, the general manager of the Jaguars,

845
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Speaker 2: agreed to do it. They both probably feel like they

846
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: won the draft or the trade. Yeah, Gladstone got what

847
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: he wanted. Was is a game changing difference maker. They

848
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: feel like they're really close. AB needed to replenish the Coffers,

849
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 2: so we needed picks. Yeah, it could be one of

850
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 2: those things where both teams win. It's a really good idea.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully it is. Yeah, it's a great job by CBS

852
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 4: Sports and you can listen to the whole thing with

853
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 4: the first pick. It's a podcast. You can watch it

854
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 4: on YouTube or it's cool get it wherever you get

855
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 4: your podcast. It was they actually had both guys for

856
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Speaker 4: forty two minutes.

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Speaker 2: That's an unbelievable John.

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Speaker 4: It was. They asked a lot of things football related,

859
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 4: not football related. Yeah, you know, they got into it.

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Speaker 4: You know, we I wanted to just pluck those stuff

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00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 4: that really impacted us, but I mean they were pretty

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00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 4: candid on a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very cool idea for a limited run

864
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: podcast for sure. All right, coming up next, we'll go

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Speaker 2: as we go around the sports world, were you watching?

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Speaker 4: No, Neither These two were like, what is your problem?

879
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I'm gonna tell you what my

880
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 2: problem was. This was not a good game. Oh oh,

881
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: this is not a good game.

882
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 4: How about that?

883
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, j Mac, it was a fantastic game. No, it wasn't.

884
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: Okac led the whole way. They led by pretty much

885
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: much double digits the whole way until the three pointer

886
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: cuts it to four at ninety eight ninety four from

887
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 2: Miles Turner with I think six minutes to go. There

888
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: would be no reason for you to think other than

889
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: the fact that Indiana has done this in probably already

890
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: three times in this in this playoff, that they were

891
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: going to be competitive down the shot.

892
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 4: Which it was like an NBA Finals never got It.

893
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: Was never close like Turner hit the three at night

894
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: to make it ninety eight ninety four, I want to say,

895
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: with around six minutes to go, and then oka See

896
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: responded immediately and extended the lead again. It was never

897
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: It was always a ten point game kind of the

898
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: whole way, and then it was now the finish was

899
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: spectacular the last three minutes. To be down nine with

900
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: under three minutes to go and win is impossible.

901
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 3: I didn't.

902
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, what did I miss? Did I really miss

903
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: a good game? Okay, that's a great game. I think

904
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: you missed a great finish.

905
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 4: So teams went trailing by nine plus points in the

906
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 4: final three minutes of an NBA Finals game since nineteen

907
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 4: seventy one are zero to two. Yeah until last night.

908
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: Like this Pacers team just they have a knack. They

909
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 4: I mean, how many times are they going to come

910
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 4: back from the brink of death?

911
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 2: You know what they have? Buddy? They have incredible belief.

912
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, belief.

913
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's one of those things that's kind

914
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: of it's a little bit out there, but like it's

915
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: amazing how much if you believe what you're capable of,

916
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 2: and they just believe. They just believe they're in games,

917
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 2: they believe they're never out of them. I was talking

918
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: to Ohio State Basketball Hall of Fame or Schoony Pen

919
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 2: about this yesterday. He was on the Memphis staff for

920
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: six years. And they were having to deal with Oka

921
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: see and what was coming. You could kind of see

922
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: it coming a little bit. And I said, well, if

923
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: Indiana is going to do something in this because I had,

924
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 2: okay say winning in five, I said, if this is

925
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: something where Indiana wins this series, would it have to be?

926
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: And he just went to what everybody says, which is

927
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: three point shooting, like if they shoot it better because

928
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: they had but nineteen turnovers at half yep, twenty four

929
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: for the game. Yeah, they had nineteen turnovers at half

930
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: and we're still in it sort of, I mean sort

931
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: of in it. They were down nine after one, and

932
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 2: they were kind of down around ten the whole way.

933
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: I mean it was they were kind of in that.

934
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: So around it, I'm like, I'm good this. I know

935
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 2: this is going to end. So I did not see

936
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: it live. I watched it this morning on replay.

937
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 4: Yeah it was a heck of a shot. Yeah, I

938
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 4: mean again, he continues to just amaze. He's clutch man,

939
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: Albert just the clutch meter is Is he one of

940
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 4: the top ten players in the NBA.

941
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not smart enough to know that.

942
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think so, but I don't know. That's the

943
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: thing about this page team. In today's NBA, where you

944
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: have blockbuster trades and teams paying millions of dollars for

945
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: multiple stars to try and contend, the Pacers don't really

946
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: have a star. He's probably it. He is their star,

947
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: but I don't I'm gonna I guess what I don't

948
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: know is is he I'm not comparing him as a

949
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 2: player in terms of their style, but is Tyrese Halliburton

950
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: his biggest star on this Pacers team as early Reggie

951
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: Miller was on those Pacers teams.

952
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

953
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I mean that you're we're viewing

954
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 2: Reggie how he was at the end. I'm talking about

955
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: like mid nineties Reggie. I don't know that he was.

956
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: I mean, he wasn't among the top players in the

957
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: he did. But I think this, I think these it's

958
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: a pretty good supporting cast. Yeah, when you think about it,

959
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: I mean they're really deep. I mean they got a

960
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: lot of dudes.

961
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 9: He as as the guy that's kind of like aged

962
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 9: middle between you know you guys and other guys on

963
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 9: the outside of the glass. I would answer that as no,

964
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 9: he's not as big is that. But he has the

965
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 9: chance to grow that if he keeps playing this way

966
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 9: and they keep finding ways, so.

967
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 4: They'll build him a statue if they win this.

968
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, it's I think it's I'll tell you this

969
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: from a big picture perspective. I don't my hunches that

970
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: the ratings last night were not great. That's my guess.

971
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 2: My guess. I mean, they were down fifteen at half,

972
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 2: I think is what it was, something like that small markets. Yeah,

973
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: it's small markets, it's all of those things. Yeah, they

974
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: were down three, they were down twelve at half, and

975
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 2: it kind of felt like, Okay, nothing really to see here.

976
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: This is going to go the way we all think.

977
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: So I'm guessing for last night it was down, but

978
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: I think by I think Sunday you could get a night.

979
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: This is probably everything that they needed. We if you've

980
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: been following basketball, you know that Halliburton's been doing this.

981
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: He did it to us, he did to the Knicks,

982
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 2: did it to the Bucks. Like they've done this. So

983
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 2: this is kind of who they are, and now it

984
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: becomes one of those things of where you don't want

985
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: to miss it. Now, here's what I don't understand. I

986
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: don't understand why the next game is it's Saturday night

987
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 2: over Sunday night. If it's going to be on a Sunday,

988
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 2: I don't know why it's not Sunday afternoon, the way

989
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: that they the NBA blew up in the mid nineties

990
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: with Jordan playing Sunday afternoon in the finals, like that's

991
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: the most viewed window. So waiting till Sunday at eight

992
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: o'clock is crazy.

993
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 4: Even if you played it at six, three o'clock on

994
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: the West Coast, fine, fine, great, Fine, but seventy five

995
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 4: percent of the US population in the eastern Central times

996
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 4: come on, yeah.

997
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, till you're right six stupid six would be great.

998
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: But if you're gonna play it at eight, play it

999
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: Sunday Saturday. Rather yeah, play it Saturday night, I mean,

1000
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: do it. Then this notion that more people, I mean,

1001
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 2: I don't know, Sunday night eight o'clock, you'll be done

1002
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: by eleven. So it's fine, but it's also like to

1003
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: me to have to wait until Sunday for this seems

1004
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: a little silk.

1005
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 4: Look for the first two games, it should be every

1006
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 4: other day, and then you get a bonus day for travel. Okay,

1007
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 4: then you get two days between and then the next

1008
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 4: two should be game three, uh whatever, Tuesday, game four

1009
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 4: on Thursday. Yeah, and then you know, if you have

1010
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 4: to do extra days after that for travel, I'm with you, fine,

1011
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 4: but yeah, I remember this covering the Calves with Lebron

1012
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 4: in the finals and just having days where I'm like,

1013
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 4: what do we can we just play.

1014
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: And I don't know what they do? Are they spreading

1015
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: it out for either It's also pretty remarkable then, and

1016
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: you guys did this obviously with with Calves Warriors, where

1017
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: you're going from here to Golden State, Yeah, back and forth.

1018
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: The NHL they have the same thing there they go

1019
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 2: to to and then all the and then one on

1020
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: one it's Edmonton and Miami. You can't get further apart than.

1021
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 4: That, correct, not in North America.

1022
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 2: Unless you're gonna play Moscow in Miami. I mean, it's

1023
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 2: what are we doing?

1024
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 3: I don't.

1025
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, by the way, I still stand by it. I

1026
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 4: will watch the NHL Stanley Cup before I watched the

1027
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 4: NBA Finals.

1028
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: I will make the miss I won't. I would be

1029
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: very curious see what these two teams do on Sunday night,

1030
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 2: Like if if Oklahoma City comes out and just annihilates

1031
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 2: and just like leaves no doubt, which they probably should

1032
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 2: have done last night, Like just leave no doubt. So

1033
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see what happens on Sunday. Game

1034
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: two of the Stanley Cup is tonight. Game one was

1035
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: an absolute banger awesome and my hunches this one will

1036
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: be pretty great too.

1037
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 4: So Friday night, Yeah, good news. Yeah, stay up, staying

1038
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 4: up baby, I'm watching h I have an interest in that.

1039
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, God, Indiana, that's crazy though, it's crazy what they've done.

1040
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 2: It really is all right. Coming up to next will

1041
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Speaker 2: play a little higher lower. The mail bag is open

1042
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Speaker 2: That's a banger. I mean, that is an absolute banger.

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Speaker 4: At the golf outing, yeah, you know we were talking about

1056
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 4: auction items. Sure, there was an auction item at the

1057
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Speaker 4: golf outing to benefit the Browns Foundation.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 4: It was a sweet I don't know if it was

1060
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 4: for both nights or just one night, but it was

1061
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 4: all you could drink, all you could eat in the

1062
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Speaker 4: suite and the sweet plus parking.

1063
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Speaker 3: Wow.

1064
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: I mean, do you think when this, when this was booked,

1065
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: I wonder if they knew that Ella Langley would end

1066
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: up being like what she's become, because she is, she's

1067
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: a star right now killing it. But like and Wallin

1068
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 2: has been. But I mean, but it's always.

1069
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 4: One of those, especially like Chesney when he goes out

1070
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 4: on tour, he's always got an artist that is literally

1071
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 4: on the brink and then usually that tour pushes them

1072
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 4: into stardom.

1073
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she just beat him to it a little

1074
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: bit on that.

1075
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right time for a little.

1076
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Speaker 2: Higher lower This is We're gonna have a little fun

1077
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Speaker 2: with some roster rankings. Hello, Gibbeck.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

1079
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Speaker 4: A comprehensive breakdown of all thirty two teams rosters heading

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Speaker 4: Oh right, okay, Number one the Philadelphia Eagles.

1083
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Speaker 2: Eagles are the best roster.

1084
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 4: Best roster, the biggest strength defense in twenty four, the

1085
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 4: biggest weakness in twenty five for the passing game.

1086
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: Really, I mean, they don't have many weaknesses. Their two

1087
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: lines of scrimmage are great, Their defense is strong, they

1088
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 2: can run it with Barkley, their clutch, I mean, there

1089
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: just isn't They hit the lottery with Jalen Hurts because

1090
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 2: they kind of had everything else and they land a

1091
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: second round pick and he's a franchise quarterback and then

1092
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: away you go.

1093
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're trying to revive Dotson's career. Yeah, at he's

1094
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 4: their third wide out. Is he alas Goddard's back. I

1095
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 4: mean they've had some retirements and they lost some pieces

1096
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 4: on defense. You know, that's it just happens. But there

1097
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 4: were a couple of retirements, and they've lost a couple

1098
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 4: other guys, especially in that secondary. But I mean they

1099
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 4: just they replenish. So they have the number one roster

1100
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 4: going into training camp per PFF number two hit a

1101
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 4: keV higher core lower. It is the Baltimore Ravens biggest

1102
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 4: dranked in twenty twenty four. A historic ground game, Yeah,

1103
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 4: no doubt. Biggest weakness not much pass rush juice X

1104
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 4: factor for twenty twenty five guard Andrew Vorhees. If a

1105
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 4: guard is your biggest X factor, Congratulations, you're in a

1106
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 4: pretty good spot going into twenty twenty five.

1107
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: This is yeah, this is appropriate. This is appropriate. They

1108
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 2: are there's no holes. They got everything you want. They've

1109
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: drafted well, they've got the you know, probably the best

1110
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: overall quarterback in terms of best overall regular season quarterback

1111
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: in the league.

1112
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1113
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: The only thing, the only negative about Baltimore is the

1114
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 2: fact that now they're going to play this year with

1115
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: incredible burden and pressure. That's it. Everything else it's a

1116
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: it's a lovely spot.

1117
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 4: And to be blunt, what you do from September through

1118
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 4: December means nothing. If you can't get to the AFC

1119
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 4: Championship Game or Super Bowl. No, they and he doesn't.

1120
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 4: Wait and he doesn't.

1121
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: He doesn't know. But that's that's the only thing on

1122
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 2: that I think this is correct. I think this is

1123
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: the sweet spot. I think is this is the second

1124
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: best roster, and you could argue it's the best.

1125
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 4: Russ I was gonna say, I mean, Lamar's your quarterback,

1126
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry, Justice Hillier, running backs, Za Flowers. I forgot

1127
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 4: that they got DeAndre Hopkins, Rashad Bateman, Mark Andrews. Your

1128
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 4: is your tight end.

1129
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1130
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 4: The line is great with led by Linderbaum and Staley. Defensively,

1131
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 4: metabk van Ney Oway, Rokwan Smith, Marlon Humphrey, Nate Wiggins.

1132
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 4: By the way, you added Malachi Starts with Kyle Hamilton

1133
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 4: in the backfield.

1134
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's great, great, Yeah. I mean the

1135
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 2: only reason that I'm cool with them being below Philly

1136
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 2: is just because Philly's done. It's a chance that's it.

1137
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: But their roster is there's no holes.

1138
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 4: Next higher core lower number three is the Detroit Lions. Interesting, uh,

1139
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 4: it takes us to number four and the Kansas City Chiefs.

1140
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 4: The biggest strength last season their defense. The biggest weakness

1141
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes supporting cast. Again, when a guard is your

1142
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 4: X factor, you're in pretty good shape. Rookie to watch

1143
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 4: the tackle lot of Ohio State Josh Simmons, I mean.

1144
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: It was going to be the top a top ten

1145
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 2: pick in this draft who got hurt who then fell

1146
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: to them? Yeah, I mean he may have been the

1147
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 2: first tackle off the board.

1148
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1149
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: He was in the conversation for that. So I got

1150
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, buddy. I think that these

1151
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: guys are going to bounce back in a big, big way.

1152
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna get healthy. I think another year

1153
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 2: was Xavier Worthy. You forget like Rashie Rice. They lost

1154
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: him for so many games last year. To me, I

1155
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 2: feel like they're gonna bounce back in a big way

1156
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: this year. There's not a whole lot in terms of

1157
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 2: holes here on the roster. It's it's pretty good across

1158
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 2: the board, and they have Mahomes. I think the supporting

1159
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,240
Speaker 2: cast will be healthy, be better. I think this is

1160
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 2: what do they have him for. Yes, yeah, I wouldn't

1161
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 2: have him in front of those first three, but I

1162
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,439
Speaker 2: think this is probably the sweet spot for them as well.

1163
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 4: I don't know, and the only reason why I need

1164
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 4: to see their playmakers actually make plays.

1165
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 2: It's fair.

1166
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 4: And the quarterback, you know he's gonna set you up

1167
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 4: for success. But I mean Rashi, Rice, Xavier Worthy, Hollywood Brown,

1168
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 4: gotta see something if you're gonna make another run. Pachecko solid,

1169
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 4: Kareem Hunt coming back. I think was a masterful re

1170
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 4: signing by them. Offensive line is in good shape. Defensively,

1171
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 4: I just after McDuffie at corner. The rest of the secondary,

1172
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 4: including the safeties, they're nothing to write home about. Yeah,

1173
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 4: I don't. And Chris Jones is a year older. Same

1174
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 4: with Mahomes and more importantly saying with Travis Kelce. I'm

1175
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 4: interested to see how that plays out this year. But

1176
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 4: as long as you have Mahomes, you're in that company.

1177
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in a good spot. Rice will be the

1178
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 2: one to watch because he was off to a pretty

1179
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: great start, like it looked like he was going to

1180
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: take off, and then he got hurt only ended up

1181
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: playing the four games. So yeah, I think they're right

1182
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: there next higher or lower.

1183
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 4: The Buffalo Bills are number five. I forgot that they

1184
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 4: got Joey Bosa.

1185
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah he'll play six games, but yeah, they got him.

1186
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 2: Hopefully it's the right six.

1187
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 4: It's that's also true, and it'll be interesting to see

1188
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 4: what happens with that wide receiver room. Can can those

1189
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 4: guys take the next step, especially Shakir and Kean Coleman,

1190
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 4: more importantly Keon Coleman. The Rams are number six right

1191
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 4: number seven. And this is where we have our conversation.

1192
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 4: The Houston Texans strength in twenty twenty four, the past defense,

1193
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 4: the weakness in twenty twenty four the offensive line. Cam Robinson.

1194
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 4: Hugh Houston signed free agency in an attempt to fill

1195
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 4: Larre I mean tons shoes is the tackle to watch

1196
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 4: in the X Factor rookie to watch Jaden Higgins out

1197
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 4: of Iowa State High or lower.

1198
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 2: Just right on that roster, Can you give me eight,

1199
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: nine and ten?

1200
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 4: I can Minnesota is number eight? Oh my god, I

1201
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 4: the love and everybody's like, JJ McCarthy's going to be

1202
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 4: the second coming. We have no idea.

1203
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: No one seen him playing in the NFL.

1204
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 4: Everybody's got this team in the top ten.

1205
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 2: We were we it was on our field when he

1206
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: found out he was going to miss the year. Yeah,

1207
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: and Quayzy God bless him, still came over and talked

1208
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 2: to us, and so we had that, but he had

1209
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: a setback from that initial surgery. So nobody has any idea.

1210
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,439
Speaker 2: We're basing Minnesota being good on what they were last

1211
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 2: year and the fact that they didn't go track down

1212
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 2: another quarterback. So they believe that JJ McCarthy's good, but

1213
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: we have no idea what he's going to be. That's

1214
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 2: way too high for them, way too high.

1215
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 4: I agree nine is Denver and number ten is Tampa Bay.

1216
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't love I like that. I don't really

1217
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: love any of those four. I think there are several

1218
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 2: teams lower on this list, like Washington, the Chargers, where

1219
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers and all of this. There's several

1220
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,959
Speaker 2: teams that I would have in front of those four.

1221
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 2: My Houston question is does CJ bounce back? Because he

1222
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 2: was a little disappointing last year, So does he bounce

1223
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: back and revert to who he was as a rookie?

1224
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 2: Minnesota we went over JJ McCarthy. We just don't have

1225
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,919
Speaker 2: any idea Denver year two, where everyone kind of knows

1226
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 2: you're good, what does year two look like for bon

1227
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 2: Nicks and Tampa Bay. I think they're nice. I just

1228
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 2: think that there's a ceiling on them, and I think

1229
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 2: it's more like around twelve thirteen.

1230
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 4: Minnesota shouldn't be in the top ten.

1231
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either.

1232
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 4: I think of all of them, you can make a

1233
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 4: case for Denver being the highest of those four. Yeah, problems,

1234
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 4: you still got to show me something. But they've got

1235
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 4: the talent offensively and defensively. They have the Commanders at

1236
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 4: number eleven.

1237
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're better than that.

1238
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 4: I'd like to think so, but that that's another team though,

1239
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 4: Now that there's tape of you, Jane Daniels, what do

1240
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 4: we get this year? And then is it McLaurin that's

1241
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 4: not pleased with his contract?

1242
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's there's I mean there's talk of us being

1243
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 2: in the mix room. I don't think that's the case.

1244
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: But I saw Pittsburgh in the middle of it, so

1245
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 2: you could see them trying to add somebody while they

1246
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 2: have this one year run with Rogers.

1247
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: Next higher or lower.

1248
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 4: The Chargers at number twelve, would you put them higher

1249
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 4: or lower than it seems we just messed.

1250
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 2: I like them more than say whatever you want about Harbor.

1251
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: Today's a big day up in Michigan because they're having

1252
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: the hearing like Connor Stallion's in there.

1253
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 3: Nothing.

1254
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: It's going to be it's going to be a fine,

1255
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 2: and it's going to be probably maybe a postseason Probably

1256
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 2: from a Buckeye fan perspective, probably the best you can

1257
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 2: hope for is substantial fine, incredible restriction on recruiting, and

1258
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 2: a postseason ban.

1259
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 4: But if you have the nil money, well.

1260
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 2: That's why they have to make sure that the the

1261
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: scholarship the scholarship restriction. Instead of doing scholarship restriction, what

1262
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 2: I would do is say your coaches can't leave campus

1263
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 2: to recruit, so you can keep your eighty five scholarships,

1264
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 2: you can pay guys. They're gonna have roster limits at

1265
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: one hundred and five next year and last year they

1266
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 2: were one hundred and twenty, so that's going to make

1267
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 2: that a little bit more difficult. But i'd keep your

1268
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: scholarships the same and I would just find them heavily

1269
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: and then I would just say, listen, you can't leave

1270
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: campus to recruit, and I think that penalty would be significant.

1271
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1272
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 2: You couple that with if they're hit with a postseason ban.

1273
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 2: Now you're talking, because that would cripple a program because

1274
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 2: in free transfer, half the guys on that team would

1275
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 2: bounce if that absolutely, that's what I so. I have

1276
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 2: All of that was as a lead in to get

1277
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 2: into Harbor. Harbor is a damn good football coach, and

1278
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 2: I think year two with him and Herbert in Los Angeles,

1279
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 2: I think they are much better than the teams that

1280
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 2: were ahead of them. I would have them higher.

1281
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Omari and Hampton and Naji Harris in that backfield.

1282
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 4: It's interesting to see how that plays out. Yeah, that's

1283
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 4: a good squad next higher lower. It's another team here

1284
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 4: that I would have ahead, Green Bay same. I mean

1285
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 4: they finally addressed the wide receiver room. Where's he got

1286
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 4: green Bay thirteen?

1287
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're better than that.

1288
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 4: They're better than Minnesota, Yeah they are, and I would

1289
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 4: put them.

1290
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 2: I mean they He's got the forty nine ers on

1291
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: this list at fourteen. That's too low for them too. Yeah,

1292
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 2: may have the Bengals eighteen, the Steelers twenty one, Like

1293
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 2: some of this stuff is so now.

1294
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 4: The Steelers twenty one, Steelers with Aaron Rodgers. Where do

1295
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 4: you put them here?

1296
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 2: Top half of the league.

1297
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this article came out before that was Yeah,

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01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 4: I mean top half of the lead.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we can do that next week we could

1300
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: do our we could do our own power rankings one

1301
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 2: through thirty one because no names plays. Yes, do one

1302
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 2: through thirty one and see how we view these teams

1303
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 2: compared to how this is. Because I'm looking at some

1304
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 2: of this stuff, I don't Yeah, I mean right now they.

1305
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 4: Have the Colts ahead of the Steelers with Anthony Richardson

1306
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 4: as your quarterback.

1307
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 2: Well, he's not even a correct he's gonna be t

1308
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 2: to be heard for a while, correct.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the whole Arizona Cardinals at nineteen. No, No,

1310
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 4: I'm not there either, Nope, No, I mean the Bengals

1311
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 4: were number eighteen.

1312
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 2: They're going to bounce back their their wind total over

1313
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 2: unders ten and a half. Cincinnati's Yeah, so that tells

1314
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 2: you how they're viewed.

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01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're good. They're going to be just fine. They are.

1316
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.

1317
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 4: We were thirty two.

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01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 2: It's crap, but yeah, that's not We're not that we're not,

1319
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 2: but we got to prove that we're not. Yep, we're

1320
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot better than we were a year ago.

1321
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if it'll manifest anything in terms of postseason,

1322
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 2: but the roster's better, the quarterback play will be better.

1323
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 2: There's a lot of reasons to believe that that's the

1324
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 2: way that will go. We're gonna open up the mail bag.

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Speaker 2: Time to open up that mail bag. You can send

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Speaker 2: your questions in at Browns Underscore Daily. Ay gebe. The

1337
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 2: good news is Bobby is busy.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I had a few left over from your

1339
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 4: Bobby's got sixty, Bobby's got his a game. Yeah, well

1340
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 4: he's throwing heat, man, little bit Bobby. Yeah, my man.

1341
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 4: First and foremost, before we go any further, we must

1342
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 4: congratulate our boss, Richard Sowinski, not the franchise. The franchise

1343
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 4: I don't know where he is. I hope it's right

1344
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 4: over him, Richard. He gets married in three hours, three hours,

1345
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 4: let's go. So here's my question for you, because you

1346
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 4: are you are a fashion fashion or I don't know,

1347
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 4: I made that up. I think you are. I'm trying

1348
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 4: to figure out what a tire to go with now. Tequila.

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01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 4: Tequila was in here earlier and I was like, no,

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01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 4: no, no no. I was like, do I have to wear

1351
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 4: a tie for this because I would like to not work?

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01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: Do you have the do you have the do you

1353
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 2: have the invitation?

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01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 4: I do? So it turns out that the the fiance

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01:06:54,800 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 4: who is a fantastic human being. I mean like, I'm

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01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 4: pulling up the invite. Now hold on.

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01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 2: I feel like mister Wolf in pulp fiction, like I'm writing,

1358
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 2: give me the all the details.

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01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 4: Katie. Katie is a sweetheart. Katie and Ricky, congratulations Ricky.

1360
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 4: There's still time. And if there's a code word, just

1361
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 4: I'll be ready.

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01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 2: It's like, now, my guess is this Bonnie situation? I

1363
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 2: guess is Bonnie wouldn'tant to see a bunch of a

1364
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 2: bunch of gangers, gangsters, a bunch of blood all over

1365
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 2: the Lemons.

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01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 4: Exactly, no, mister Wolf, but she would not.

1367
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 3: Yea.

1368
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 2: So we have a fiance, all right, give me the details.

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01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what to wear. What's Fila wearing.

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Speaker 4: Well, Fela had his own courtsie and his girlfriend who

1371
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to meeting tonight, was like, Angel, there

1372
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 4: is no way in hell that you're wearing that now.

1373
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 4: Fela's like when I go to a wedding, like my

1374
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 4: dad was a firefighter, like you were. You were ready

1375
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 4: to party when you walked into the church, like it

1376
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 4: wasn't it wasn't a suit type event.

1377
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you got to read the room.

1378
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 3: FeelA.

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01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 4: She was like you. He was like, I was just

1380
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 4: gonna go like dress, jeans and a button down and

1381
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 4: she I think she was horrified by that.

1382
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 2: Put a jacket on, Fela.

1383
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 4: That was my whole thought, Like this morning, my wife's like,

1384
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 4: are you suiting it up? And I was like, all right.

1385
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 4: Here's when I asked you a few questions. Yeah, please,

1386
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 4: is it indoor outdoor? It's indoors?

1387
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 2: Is it in a church?

1388
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 4: No indoor church or reception and ceremony all in one

1389
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 4: spot and a nicer location downtown reception indoors as well. Yeah, okay,

1390
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 4: what is it I think is actually invited to this?

1391
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 2: I'm sure he would be.

1392
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, if it makes it well, he got a tea time.

1393
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 2: I don't know about that he's got going on. Can

1394
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 2: you give me a Does it give you anything in

1395
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 2: terms of dress, any sort of dress? Is there any business?

1396
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 2: What does it say about the reception? Like usually it'll

1397
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 2: say reception, like something on there about the reception. It'll

1398
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 2: give you like a details reception to follow, right, But

1399
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:57,719
Speaker 2: does it say like like usually it'll say black tie,

1400
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 2: white tie, business, casual, casual?

1401
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 4: It doesn't.

1402
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,759
Speaker 2: All right, this is what I would do. I would

1403
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 2: wear it's summer, I mean, might as well be. It's

1404
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 2: we're into June. I would wear a light if you

1405
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 2: had a linen suit. A linen might not be too much.

1406
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: It's not that really that hot. But give me a

1407
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 2: light colored suit with a button down shirt like a

1408
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 2: white or a light blue, no tie, no tie, and

1409
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 2: then if you get into the reception and it's a

1410
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 2: little bit more casual, you lose the jacket and then

1411
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 2: you're good to go.

1412
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 4: So I was talking to Tequila about the tie thing

1413
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 4: because I said, I go. I was thinking a nice jacket. Sure,

1414
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 4: a nice pair of pants and a nice button dog. Yeah,

1415
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 4: that's what I said. I didn't I didn't really want

1416
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 4: to suit up. It's a Friday afternoon wedding. Yeah, I

1417
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 4: feel like that plays a little factor. It's not in

1418
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 4: a church. I'm like, I feel like I could, I

1419
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 4: could do that. And he said. There was some conversation

1420
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 4: about the ties earlier this week on the video side

1421
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 4: of things, and Rick Ricky called his fiance and the

1422
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 4: fiance is requested that we're all being ties.

1423
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: Okay, then it probably said, so, I'm like, then you

1424
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 2: do with the fiance asked because it's her day and

1425
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 2: the rest of your guys's opinions mean nothing. Correct, it's

1426
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 2: just about her. So the time she wants to tie,

1427
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 2: you wear the toe. I'm wearing the tie, but I

1428
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 2: don't want information that I needed. Okay, you have to

1429
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 2: suit up if you're in a tie. You can't wear

1430
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 2: a tie with no jacket.

1431
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 1: No.

1432
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 4: No, I'm going to wear a jacket, but I'm not

1433
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 4: wearing like.

1434
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 2: Oh, you're talking like sport jacket. You're talking like sport

1435
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 2: coat and a sport coat and.

1436
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 4: Slash or something like that.

1437
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do that.

1438
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, I just wanted to double chat works. I

1439
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 4: did not explain anything.

1440
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 2: I don't unless I would say, unless there's something on

1441
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 2: the invitation that tells you. I think expecting ties without

1442
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 2: saying it. In this day and age, I think that's tough.

1443
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 4: Correct.

1444
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 2: I don't think you're gonna get a lot of ties. No,

1445
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 2: And I don't like upsetting the brides because that's their day.

1446
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 4: It's so I don't.

1447
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 2: All right, so you're in a sport coat, you're in

1448
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 2: a nice slack, you're in a light blue or you're

1449
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 2: a white white shirt and you gotta tie. Yeah, you're fine.

1450
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 2: That's that's where I was at. But what I am

1451
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 2: looking forward to celebrate one thing that we have. One

1452
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,879
Speaker 2: thing that's happened is we have become way too casual

1453
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 2: for our own good in this country. And so I

1454
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 2: think all of these events have been so casual down

1455
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 2: that it's hard to know if they'll ever go back.

1456
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 4: So that so this goes back. This is a conversation

1457
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 4: I had with Connor and with Fela. Yeah, I said,

1458
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 4: for the wedding party, if they're wearing nikes, you know

1459
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 4: how everybody wears like that's the new fat. I'm like,

1460
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 4: to me, that is not dressing up. The tennis shoe

1461
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 4: look is not a dress up for me.

1462
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 2: No, I know people do that, I know, and I don't.

1463
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 2: Are they doing that here? I don't think so. Yeah,

1464
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 2: but I don't know. Here's what I did. This is

1465
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 2: why we did h in the in the for our wedding.

1466
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 2: The reason that we did tuxes and ties for the

1467
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 2: wedding was timeless. I had too many of like my

1468
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: uncle's pictures in like these polyester suits that were like

1469
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 2: topee or light blue. I mean they look like dumb

1470
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 2: and dummer with this craziness from the seventies, yeah, and eighties,

1471
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: and it's like, man, if here's the deal. If you

1472
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 2: would have worn a black tux, you could have been

1473
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 2: from twenty twenty or nineteen twenty and it all looks

1474
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:24,719
Speaker 2: the same.

1475
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1476
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 2: So that's why I always feel like, for me, that's

1477
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 2: what we did. I'm like, I'm more in Texas because that's.

1478
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 4: Timeless, and that's I was going to wear a coat

1479
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 4: and slacks. I just was hoping to get away with

1480
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 4: no tie. But that is out the window. And I

1481
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 4: appreciate that information.

1482
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's important.

1483
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, Preston tweets at the show. If you had the

1484
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 4: opportunity to participate in a sporting event, irregardless of your

1485
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 4: actual athletic ability, what would it be? Mine is main

1486
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 4: event WrestleMania for WWE Championship is the ultimate babyface.

1487
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 2: I I would love to be in the final pairing

1488
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 2: at the Masters and win it. I think there's a

1489
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 2: timelessness and plus that's of all of the sports that

1490
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 2: I'm most incompetent at where it feels like the payoff

1491
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 2: is the biggest. Like just think with how that sets

1492
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 2: you up for life. Master's Champion. Have you got one day?

1493
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 2: Like going back to the meal you're going? I mean,

1494
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 2: like all of that stuff, Like, it's such a money

1495
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 2: thing to win. I think that's the one I would do.

1496
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 4: Look what it's done for Dustin Johnson because he hasn't

1497
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 4: done it, no sense?

1498
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 2: No, I mean yeah, I think it's a really that's

1499
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 2: the one that would be for me. What do you got?

1500
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 4: I don't know. I hadn't really, I hadn't thought about it.

1501
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 4: I hadn't given it's the Master's thing. Is is such

1502
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 4: a good one that I'm gonna roll with that. Yeah,

1503
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 4: it's a good one. It's good dog Pound, Cleveland.

1504
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 3: Brown.

1505
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 4: I took your advice. I'm going to put In Bay

1506
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 4: for a few days while visiting Cleveland. It's a good move.

1507
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 4: Kelly's Island as well. Take the ferry. You can hopscotch around.

1508
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're fun.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: If I question for you, if I leave my car

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01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 4: on the mainland while there is there a place I

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01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,879
Speaker 4: can store my luggage if I want to arrive earlier

1514
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 4: than my check in time. I don't have an answer for.

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01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 3: You on that.

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01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 4: I know there's lockers because you know, I've gone up

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01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 4: for a day and you put your you know, if

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01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 4: you're gonna if you're gonna sit in the uh in

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01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 4: the pool and sit at the pool bar all day, like, Yeah,

1520
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 4: there's nowhere to put clothing, so there are lockers to

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01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 4: lock stuff up. I don't know how big the locker

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01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 4: is for your luggage, so I don't. I don't really

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01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 4: have an answer. If you're staying at a hotel on property,

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01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 4: then maybe check with them and see if you can

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01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 4: give them your luggage early.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I don't. I don't. I have never done that,

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01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 2: so I can't speak to storing luggage. Why couldn't you

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01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 2: just story it in your car in the trunk.

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01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 4: And then just go back across the boat you get it. Yeah,

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01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 4: go back and forth.

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01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 2: It's very safe, like I don't there's no you're not

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01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 2: gonna have to worry about. It's very well patrolled. I

1533
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 2: mean yeah, this is their entire industry, so they're not

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01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 2: gonna have it anything besmirch it.

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01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 10: Correct.

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01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, So and enjoy it. Hopefully it'll be above eighty

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01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 4: degrees that when you go, because currently it sucks here.

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Speaker 4: Let's see, just catching up on this week's shows. This

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01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 4: is from Don Benoit, a great program on Apple TV

1540
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 4: to watch his slow Horses.

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Speaker 2: I've heard that that's about old I six guys in England.

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01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, let's see, let's see.

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01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 3: Oh.

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01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 4: This is from Brownsbackers, North Jersey about tell D Day.

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01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 4: Did you know the Germans didn't know where the invasion

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01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 4: was going to take place. They thought Kalais was the

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01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 4: spot as the Germans were working on the V two

1549
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 4: rockets there. Had they spread out their fortifications more evenly,

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01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 4: who knows what would have happened. Well, obviously they didn't know.

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Speaker 3: We were coming.

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01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I.

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01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

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01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 2: The the I the most the best thing I've seen

1555
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 2: on it is the Band of Brothers one because it

1556
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 2: is the way they light up the sky, the way

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01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 2: that it shot the the idea of those guys dropping in,

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01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 2: being separated from their groups and their units and having

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01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 2: to try to make it work and all on the

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01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 2: same day. Go take this this fortified position where these

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01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 2: guns are. It's still taught at West Point what Dick

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01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 2: Winners and those guys did that. Oyay, it's still taught there.

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01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know. It's it's just such a

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01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 2: I'm in awe of it, of all of it.

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01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 4: Uh from Bobby. Bobby the best explanation of you can

1566
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 4: take the kid out of the bay Area in parentheses Montana,

1567
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 4: but you can't take the bay Area parenthesies Montana out

1568
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 4: of the kid. Is bo wanting to use the golden

1569
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 4: shovel for shoveling.

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01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 3: I did.

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01:16:55,640 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 2: I going to use it around the house, the shovels. Yeah,

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01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 2: I was gonna use I got shoveling work that I

1573
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 2: can do. I was gonna use it. I was gonna

1574
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 2: put it to work.

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01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 4: I was gonna work to do this weekend while the

1576
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 4: wife is gone.

1577
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got things I can do with it. Yeah,

1578
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 2: I'm ready to use it. Man, if you could be

1579
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 2: any superhero, who would you be?

1580
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 4: And why?

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01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 2: I feel like Tony Stark, which wouldn't have been my

1582
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 2: answer in the old days, but I think he's probably

1583
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 2: got the best life. Like Batman is always kind of

1584
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 2: angst Tony Starks seems like he's having the best time ever,

1585
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 2: which is something of a rock star. That would not

1586
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 2: have been my answer because I had really no relationship

1587
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 2: with Iron Man growing up, and I was a big

1588
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 2: Batman guy growing up. But yeah, it feels like Tony

1589
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 2: Sark's got to kind of sort it out a little bit.

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01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 4: All right, real quick? From Bobby, what's your idea of

1591
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 4: a perfect vacation family beach chill, chill being the key word,

1592
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 4: chill is key. Yeah, I don't need to chase around.

1593
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 4: I do enough of that. Correct. And that's this week's

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01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 4: addition of the bonus mail bag.

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Speaker 2: There you go, There you go. Save all those Bobby ones.

1596
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 2: He's got about a thousand of them on there that

1597
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 2: we're going to let the book mark those coming up next,

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Speaker 2: package to day for the Ultimate game Day. Here is

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Speaker 2: Joel Buttonio from the Cleveland Browns Foundation Golf outing. How's

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01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 2: your golf camp.

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01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 3: It's trending. We're doing all right.

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01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 10: You know, off season, got the simulator in the Browns

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01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 10: facility now, so that's that's helped a little bit.

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01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 3: So I've been playing pretty good.

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01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 10: I think I'm floating around a ten of handicap right now,

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01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 10: so it's so pretty solid.

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01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 2: Evn't told us the simulator, Wizard take to getting your back.

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01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 3: It might have been, it might have worked.

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01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 10: You know, early in the offseason I was in and

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01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 10: I was kind of working out and playing golf, and

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01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 10: you know, Kevin will walk by and ab and I

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01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 10: was like, at this point, if I told him I

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01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:13,560
Speaker 10: wasn't playing, it might get a little weird, you know

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01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 10: what I mean, Like I've been like using the golf

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01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 10: simulator every day. But but no, it's that's funny. That's

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01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 10: a good, good part of it.

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Speaker 1: So, Joel, you've learned.

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01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 2: A few perks and a couple of course in your career,

1629
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 2: and one of them what you don't.

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01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,759
Speaker 3: Need to be at the stage of the off season.

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01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 3: But can you you wouldn't do.

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01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 2: That five year, five years into your career. Could you

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01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 2: speak to what you think is the importance of the OTAs.

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01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 3: For the team. Yeah, I think.

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01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 10: There's a process that you want to get your offense installed,

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01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 10: you want to get your defense installed, you want to

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01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 10: get your foundation of what your standards of a team are,

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01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:51,719
Speaker 10: all that stuff, and then you want to get reps

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01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 10: of guys getting reps at doing the technique and learning

1640
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 10: the technique. And I got to a point in my

1641
01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 10: career personally where it was the extra reps for versus

1642
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 10: how my body feels. And so I've kind of worked

1643
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 10: through that over the last few years, and like this year,

1644
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 10: I've been in meetings. I've been in the weight room

1645
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 10: with the guys. I've been working out, I've been in

1646
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 10: you know, Maria all off season, so I've seen that,

1647
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 10: I've been around the guys, and it's really just a

1648
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 10: process of getting guys reps and and building your depth

1649
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 10: and finding guys because truly, I don't think anybody makes

1650
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 10: the team or doesn't make the team in OTAs, but

1651
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 10: you get a foundation of, you know, what you want

1652
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 10: your team to be.

1653
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 8: So the last time, a few times we talked to

1654
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 8: you in the off season, this was obviously a big

1655
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 8: decision for you to decide whether or not.

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Speaker 5: Any of it.

1657
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 2: Now you've been that, you've been back for a while.

1658
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 1: Well, how how does it feel to be back?

1659
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 11: Do you feel like the right decision?

1660
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been great. I was.

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01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 10: I was truly like it was truly a decision, you know,

1662
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 10: like this off season, Like I was at the end

1663
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 10: of the year, I was, you know, truly deciding if

1664
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 10: I wanted to play anymore. And I kind of sat

1665
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 10: at home for a month or two and and you know,

1666
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 10: was in and around and talk to my wife and

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01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,600
Speaker 10: we just like went through the process and I was

1668
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 10: like I could still play football at a high level.

1669
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 3: I still want to play football.

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01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 10: And you know, after the discussions with coach Stefanski and

1671
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 10: Andrew Berry and they don't tell you like who they're

1672
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 10: drafting or anything, but you know, just a style of

1673
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 10: offense we were going to run. Who We're gonna you know,

1674
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 10: try and bring in at quarterback, offensive line, coach, you know,

1675
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 10: Coach Bloom was a big part of it. He he

1676
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 10: was just you know, we went to dinner a couple

1677
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 10: of times and just talked on his philosophies. All those

1678
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 10: things played in But at the end of the day,

1679
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 10: I was like, I'm not ready to be done. I

1680
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 10: want to play more and I want to play in Cleveland.

1681
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 10: And that was that was kind of my my mindset.

1682
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 2: How important to you is that the team choose the

1683
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 2: best quarterback to win this season rather than to assess

1684
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 2: their future.

1685
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 10: Yeah, we want the best guy. I think I said

1686
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 10: that on a radio spot.

1687
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 3: I did.

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01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 10: But we want the best guy. You know, we want

1689
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 10: the best guy to compete. And you know, you understand

1690
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 10: that the team has a duty for future years. But

1691
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 10: I think going into the season, like we're gonna put

1692
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 10: the best guys out there and we're gonna We're gonna

1693
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 10: try and win as many games as we can. We

1694
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:07,719
Speaker 10: know we're in a tough division. We know the AFC

1695
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 10: is tough, but you know, I think we have faith

1696
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 10: that we're gonna we're gonna put the best guy out there.

1697
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 5: Fell apart like it did, Joel, You've had a chance

1698
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 5: to kind of.

1699
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 10: Sit back and maybe analyze it. It was kind of

1700
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 10: a snowball. I think we started out and we just

1701
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 10: didn't perform to expectations and and we could say it

1702
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 10: was the scheme, and you know, the players that were

1703
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 10: there and stuff, and I think it just comes down to,

1704
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 10: like we weren't good enough, and then we kind of

1705
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 10: let that affect us and and by the halfway point

1706
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 10: of the season, you're out of it. And and guys,

1707
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 10: you know, we we struggled to put winskelet you know,

1708
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 10: we had a little spark when Jamis came in and

1709
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 10: we beat Pittsburgh and like Baltimore and we're like, all right,

1710
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 10: we could play with anybody in this league. And that

1711
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 10: kind of to me, that showed that we still had

1712
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 10: the ability, and we just we just couldn't put together wins.

1713
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 10: You know, that Denver game was close and you win

1714
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 10: a couple more of those toss ups early on. I

1715
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 10: think it it kind of changes things. But overall, I

1716
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 10: think we just had the wrong metality, and I think

1717
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 10: Coach Fancy has already stressed the toughness that we need

1718
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 10: to bring back. The how practice going to be. I

1719
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 10: think mini camps. I'm not mini camp, but the Ricky

1720
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 10: Mini caamp and the OTAs have already kind of picked

1721
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 10: up that tempo. You know, we're not resting on any

1722
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 10: laurels of playoffs or anything like that. It's a new

1723
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 10: team and we have to establish our standard and what

1724
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 10: we want the Browns to be.

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01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 3: This offseason.

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01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 4: What Andrew Berry did just you know, what's your view.

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01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 3: On it and how much you know? Did that make your.

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01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 4: Your decision easier?

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01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I already had obviously a relationship with

1730
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 10: Joe Flacco. We bring him back. Kenny Pickett from everybody

1731
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 10: I've talked to and been around up golf with him

1732
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 10: a couple of times, he's just a guy that wants

1733
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 10: his chance and he's hungry to prove that he can

1734
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 10: play in this league. Then you draft two young quarterbacks,

1735
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 10: so I think the quarterback room, like we have four

1736
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 10: guys that are can compete that. Like I said, we

1737
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 10: want to put the best guy out there and and

1738
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 10: kind of see where we are. I think we did

1739
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:00,080
Speaker 10: a lot with our defense. You know, you bring in

1740
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 10: a young top five pick at defensive tackle, you sign

1741
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 10: a couple other guys to bolst of their defense, and

1742
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 10: you hope the defense can come back to twenty twenty

1743
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 10: three and be one of the best in the league.

1744
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 10: And the offense can ball control, run the ball, play action,

1745
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 10: do all the.

1746
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 3: Things that you want to that.

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01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:17,640
Speaker 10: That's like the picture you paint and you know, you

1748
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 10: see where you're at, and that's what we're kind of

1749
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 10: hoping for. But hope is, you know, an easy word.

1750
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 10: We're we're trying to work for it, and we're trying to,

1751
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,560
Speaker 10: you know, put the group out there and try and

1752
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 10: win some games this year.

1753
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 11: Joel, you and Jack were both very vocal right after

1754
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 11: the season about the offensive scheme and getting back to

1755
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 11: sort of what the identity of this football team. How

1756
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 11: much do you feel like what's Tommy and Kevin and

1757
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 11: Mike have are sort of putting together. How much does

1758
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 11: it kind of get back to the roots of what

1759
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 11: this team identity should be.

1760
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, For me, it feels like a twenty twenty one

1761
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 10: install of the outside zone with power schemes mixed in,

1762
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 10: which I think is the strength of you know what

1763
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:00,679
Speaker 10: are our line is. Obviously we're a little bit older,

1764
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 10: but like Jack comes from that outside zone, why it

1765
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 10: is one of the better pullers power blockers in the league.

1766
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 10: Polk can kind of do it all, but I think

1767
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 10: it fits us so much, so much better. And then

1768
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 10: for an whole line, like you know, you drop back

1769
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 10: forty fifty sixty times game.

1770
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 3: And that's still gonna happen. It's a past.

1771
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 10: You still have to pass the ball to win in

1772
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 10: this league. But if you can have a brand of

1773
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 10: like we're gonna take care of the football. And I

1774
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 10: think the way we won in the past is like

1775
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 10: our defense was fresh, like the games that they played great,

1776
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 10: they play fifty or sixty snaps, not this seventy or

1777
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 10: eighty snaps a game. And so if we can control

1778
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 10: the ball and handle those things, I think it's a

1779
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 10: big step. But from the installs and from what I've seen,

1780
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 10: it's it's going back to what coach Defanski has been

1781
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 10: known for.

1782
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 2: The toughness.

1783
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:42,759
Speaker 4: We're establishing the toughness starts.

1784
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:46,759
Speaker 10: Yes, that, yeah, we gotta be we gotta be tough upfront.

1785
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 10: We gotta you know, turn two three yard runs into

1786
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 10: four and five yard runs. You know, our defense has

1787
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 10: to be tough.

1788
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 3: It's all. It's all toughness.

1789
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 10: It starts, you know, training camp and and just having

1790
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 10: that ability to go to battle and when things do

1791
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 10: not going. It's a long season. You're gonna lose some games,

1792
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 10: but how do you bounce back? How do you not

1793
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 10: let one loss turn into two? And so, yeah, we

1794
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 10: we gotta we gotta be tough upfront for sure. This

1795
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:11,799
Speaker 10: You go into this season after you've made that decision

1796
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 10: thinking this is the last one. It will it be

1797
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 10: every off season. I think it's gonna be every off season,

1798
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 10: you know. I I definitely am not gonna take like

1799
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 10: a retirement tour. You know. I think we're we're we're

1800
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 10: filling this out one year at a time. If I

1801
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 10: go into next offseason and I'm feeling good, like, we'll

1802
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 10: see what we got left, you know, if if you know,

1803
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 10: we want to still play. But but right now, I'm

1804
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 10: just focused on this season and uh, you know, playing

1805
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 10: for for this Browns team.

1806
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 5: Coach Bloomgerden, Like, what have your first impressions.

1807
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 3: Been of him?

1808
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,600
Speaker 4: Can you go in a little more detail on that?

1809
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,919
Speaker 10: And you guys going to dinner, and yeah, he's been positive.

1810
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 10: You know, he's he's a true like O line coach.

1811
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 10: You know, he gets nitty gritty in the details. He's focused.

1812
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 10: You know, every day I'm getting some better. You feel

1813
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 10: his energy like he was a head coach obviously for

1814
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 10: a long time, but he worked with Stanford and the Jets,

1815
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 10: and you know he's pulling up clips of like David

1816
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 10: DeCastro and college like pulling and stuff things where you're,

1817
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 10: all right, this is some O line O line stuff

1818
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 10: right here. And so you get these clips and then

1819
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,719
Speaker 10: he gets out on the field and you feel his presence.

1820
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 10: You know, the O line coach kind of like needs

1821
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 10: to be for return. You need that, like you need that,

1822
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:18,679
Speaker 10: you know, and it kind of rubs off on the guys.

1823
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 10: And he's been great. I think he's developing the young guys,

1824
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 10: trying to get them work. But it's been awesome. You know,

1825
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 10: we had dinner. He just kind of talked about his

1826
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 10: philosophies and and you know, his family, my family, what

1827
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 10: what we expect in and he's like, oh, you could

1828
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 10: play for four more years. And I was like, all right,

1829
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 10: we're talking a little crazy now, but but uh no,

1830
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:40,879
Speaker 10: it was good and so far, so GoodFORM to us Ondesday.

1831
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 10: What do you say, Yeah, I think he's you know,

1832
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 10: losso weight. I think he's he's focused, he's rehabbed, he's

1833
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 10: pretty much here all off season rehab and I think

1834
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 10: he's focused, and I think he knows like, all right,

1835
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 10: you're gonna play left tackle this year, so you can

1836
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 10: just work at it, focus at it.

1837
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 3: But he's ready to take a step.

1838
01:27:58,160 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 10: And I know he's you know, you get close to

1839
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 10: those contract years and stuff, and I think you want

1840
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 10: to put a healthy season together and if he stays

1841
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:05,600
Speaker 10: healthy and can pass pro and do the things that

1842
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 10: he can do, like, they'll be good for him.

1843
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 8: Well that's one here about else Joel, this event, you've

1844
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 8: been a part of us for the many years.

1845
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 3: This is the twenty fifth year.

1846
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 4: Why is it important for you? But other players also

1847
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:15,719
Speaker 4: be here.

1848
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 1: In the importance event.

1849
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 10: Yeah, Browns give back and everything they've done with stay

1850
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,679
Speaker 10: in the game and the building the fields out in Cleveland,

1851
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 10: it's pretty special. I tell people about that all the time,

1852
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 10: Like I'm like, you know, you hear headlines for the

1853
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 10: Browns and stuff, But what they do in the community

1854
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 10: charity wise, is special and this is their biggest fundraiser

1855
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 10: of the year. You get to come out and play

1856
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 10: great golf course, have some fun, interact with people. But

1857
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 10: it's it's a great cause and to help the people

1858
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 10: that you know cheer us on and help us is

1859
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 10: really a no brainer for us.

1860
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 3: So which quarterback competition was your favorite in my career?

1861
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 3: That's a long one. I don't know.

1862
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:53,600
Speaker 10: We'll put it in the in the book me and

1863
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 10: Dan will put together sometime, you know, well, we'll talk

1864
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 10: about our qv competitions.

1865
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 2: All right. There you go, Joel Buttonio from theating with

1866
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns Foundation golf outing so much more to come.

1867
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:04,800
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01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 2: We get a nice weekend ahead of us.

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01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 10: Give it.

1874
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 3: You're gonna be all right?

1875
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 4: Uh no, come on, I'm pull up, pull up your

1876
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 4: pull up your authority, because I believe Sunday sucks again.

1877
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 4: Oh no, yeah, I don't know where that came from.

1878
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 2: It came out of nowhere.

1879
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, this morning, I'm like, wait a minute, I have it.

1880
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 4: I have a two o'clock tea time. The wife's out

1881
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 4: of town, living my best life. Not so fast, my friend.

1882
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 2: So if you're gonna play, it's you have to be

1883
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 2: tonight or it's gonna have to be.

1884
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 4: I have a wedding tonight with a tie. With a tie.

1885
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 2: Now mostly cloudy, couple of thundershowers.

1886
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a steady Now. My forecast said steady rain

1887
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 4: Sunday morning. Well, that screws up the rest of the days.

1888
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 4: Everything Now tomorrow, nice day, get out and enjoy.

1889
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 2: I didn't need that.

1890
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 3: Nope.

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01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 4: Happy Friday. Mini camp week.

1892
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 2: That'll be fun.

1893
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 4: This is gonna be fun.

1894
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun.

1895
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 4: A cavalcade of star is set to join us.

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01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 2: This will be fun. Gonna be fun next week to

1897
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 2: once we get into some mini camp last week, and

1898
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 2: then before you know what, you're gonna be here for

1899
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 2: training camp. No need to rush it, but no quickly,

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Speaker 2: all of this is going. The next level is coming

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Speaker 2: up next. Thanks for listening. Body Clevelan Brown's Daily, eight

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