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Speaker 5: very first time this, Year we'll start with. That but before,

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Speaker 5: that mister Arm, leyton we are on the doorstep of,

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Speaker 5: history and, you me And Peyton genis were literally ten

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Speaker 5: seconds ago just workshop calls FOR jj weatherhold if he

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Speaker 5: gets hit for the sixth consecutive game On tuesday, night

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Speaker 2: TOUGH i think it's clear what pitchers are trying to

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Speaker 2: they're starting to, see you, know his swing. Tendencies it's

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Speaker 2: It so, YEAH i hope you're ready for the call

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Speaker 2: when we potentially get. History i'm not rooting for him

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Speaker 3: It that's what he got on A monday.

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Speaker 3: Again this is hot take theater for.

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Speaker 5: US i put together a whole bunch of takes AND

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Speaker 5: it pertains to one of the best players that we

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Speaker 5: have seen in this. Generation Jose ramirez is approaching these,

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Speaker 3: Time and that's body of, work that's year over.

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Speaker 5: Year jay ram entering play On tuesday is at two

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Speaker 5: Much peyton genis big league. Analysis but the TAKE i

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Speaker 5: career has flirted with an elusive club and he has never.

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Speaker 3: In in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 5: As a twenty five year, Old jay ram hit thirty

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Speaker 5: nine homers and stole thirty four. Bases in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 5: far this. Season, so Arm, leyden the first TAKE i

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Speaker 2: Club your, Thoughts, YEAH i think if we're going like

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Speaker 4: Theater this should be like the LOW i.

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Speaker 3: Media, verity, yeah, Severity, yeah.

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Speaker 2: This i'm with you BECAUSE i think the big variable

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Speaker 4: Close you can't just go get the homers when you're

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Speaker 5: Know i'm just looking At Jose ramirez And i'm thinking

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Speaker 5: is thirty three years. Old he turns thirty four On september,

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Speaker 3: Now and what he does year over year is incredible to. Me.

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Speaker 5: MAN i, mean in eight fifty ops at the outset this,

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Speaker 5: Bags, yeah how many other guys do you feel like

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Speaker 5: get to the home run no output right. Now there

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Speaker 5: Honestly the other one THAT i would give, you like

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Speaker 5: best shot from, Me ellie de La cruz In. Cincinnati

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Speaker 5: Year really cool note From peyton. Here the only players

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Speaker 5: Bonds Jose ramirez is a shoe in to meet them

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Speaker 5: Here could see J abrams flirt with it or, NO

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Speaker 5: i Think abrams can flirt with thirty thirty right. Now

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Speaker 5: abrams through twenty two games hitting three twelve with six

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Speaker 5: Either so, Again Jose, ramirez we're talking about a guy

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Speaker 5: that is going to be a future first Ballot hall Of.

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Speaker 3: Famer unanimity needs To we need to get.

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Speaker 5: Rid of the veil of unanimity where like only two

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Speaker 5: because if there is any voter at the point That

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Speaker 5: Jay ram's career is said and done that does not

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Speaker 5: Famer we need to go through a vetting. Process you need,

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Speaker 3: There but that's what we got On Jose.

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Speaker 5: Ramirez i'm going to pivot this into An American LEAGUE

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Speaker 5: don't think it's a shoe in that Mister Aaron judge

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Speaker 3: Just Baseball show.

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Speaker 5: Continues we just spent the first ten minutes of the

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Speaker 5: program On Jose ramirez and his quest for forty. FORTY

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Speaker 5: i also think that he's going to be in the

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Speaker 5: alvarez is going to be in the conversation for The

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Speaker 5: American LEAGUE mvp the Way Ben rice is swinging it right.

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Speaker 5: Now he's in that conversation until proven. Otherwise Aaron judge

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Speaker 5: Is Aaron. Judge but it feels like every single year

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Speaker 5: we go about Proclaiming judge And otani is THE MVPs

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Speaker 5: until proven. OTHERWISE i Think otani is THE mvp in

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Speaker 5: The National league until proven otherwise there could be guys

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Speaker 5: but right, NOW i think The American LEAGUE mvp race

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Speaker 5: is my second take for, you is way more wide

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Speaker 4: IS i think, So AND i think some of THE

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Speaker 2: SEASON i do think there's just gonna be a little

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Speaker 4: Fair i'm acknowledging that it's not.

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Speaker 2: Fair But, otani you can't really get fatigued towards because

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Speaker 2: he's just doing something so outwardly, unmatched assuming he's doing

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Speaker 4: Time but when it's you, know corner guy putting.

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Speaker 2: by other corner guy putting up ridiculous Numbers alla Yord,

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Speaker 2: on and then they could start to you, know compete

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Speaker 2: because the old thing that the whole point With, Aaron

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Speaker 2: to value guys defense a little bit, more little things

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Speaker 2: like that his offensive numbers were so disproportionate to everybody.

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Speaker 2: Else as you, said who cares about all the other

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Speaker 2: AND i think a more cluttered situation definitely works, Again,

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Speaker 2: judge as people, are it's human. NATURE i think voters

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Speaker 2: tend to itch to do something, different AND i do

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Speaker 2: think that this is going to be wide freaking.

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Speaker 4: Open but Then, judge has a.

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Speaker 2: Couple of the months that we're used, to and all

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Speaker 5: Again who knows So Lebron, James i'm pulling up His

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Speaker 5: basketball reference page right. Now twenty two Time All, star

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Speaker 5: should probably have three more MVPs to his name right,

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Speaker 5: Now but voter fatigue got in the. Way, OTANI i

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Speaker 5: don't think voter fatigue's going to get in the.

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Speaker 3: Way he could be SETTING mvp.

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Speaker 5: Records But, JUDGE i do think voter fatigue could get

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Speaker 5: in the way here to your, point And jordan should

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Speaker 5: be in the. Conversation Jay ram should be in the.

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Speaker 5: Conversation and, oh by the, Way Vladimir Guerrero junior is

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Speaker 5: hitting three point fifty. Four and, oh by the, Way

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Speaker 5: Mike trout has found the fountain of. Youth and there

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Speaker 5: are a couple other guys that jump out here in

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Speaker 5: The American league right, now early goings like War. Total

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Speaker 5: you can look At Dylan, dingler you can look At kevin.

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Speaker 5: McGonagall they're not winning THE. Mvp Ben, Rice he's not

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Speaker 5: gonna win THE. MVP i Love Ben rice so, much

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Speaker 5: but two forty FOUR wrc plus is really fun to

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Speaker 5: look at through twenty one. Games he's not gonna win

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Speaker 5: The American LEAGUE. Mvp BUT i look At, toronto it's really.

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Speaker 5: Early they're decimated by. Injury If laddie's hitting three point

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Speaker 5: he has thirty to thirty five homers And toronto wills

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Speaker 5: their way into a postseason, Chase Vladimir Guerrero junior is

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Speaker 5: going to GET mvp.

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Speaker 3: Love Jordon.

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Speaker 5: ALVAREZ i know this has been a start from down,

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Speaker 5: Al west right, Now jordon will GET mvp. Love it

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Speaker 5: is team dependent to a certain. Extent but when you

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Speaker 5: your take On, jordon BECAUSE i feel like you haven't

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Speaker 5: been able to wax poetic on the show about What

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Speaker 5: Jordon alvarez is doing just, yet go ahead and give

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Speaker 5: me The jordon, pitch and then other guys that jump

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Speaker 2: Race that might be the thing Is jordon might put

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Speaker 2: stat cast, era AND i say the stack cast eric

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Speaker 2: walk that they batting average ends up being pretty. High

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Speaker 2: i'll a judge even though he's towards the lower end

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Speaker 2: of you, know qualified hitters in overall contact. Rate if

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Speaker 2: If Jordan alvarez puts, together you, know it basically extrapolates

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Speaker 4: Now And i'm not.

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Speaker 2: Saying a two twenty FIVE wrc plus but continuing to

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Speaker 2: one eighty to two hundred range and he's striking out

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Speaker 2: below fifteen percent of the, time this would be one

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Speaker 2: of the greatest offensive seasons we've ever. Seen but also

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Speaker 2: that affirmative league that we could measure with the metrics

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Speaker 2: vote on. Awards we have so much information at our,

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Speaker 2: or fifty, potentially which is what he's on pace, for

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Speaker 2: and he's not whiffing at, ALL i don't know how

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Speaker 2: you look anywhere else than that guy for THE, mvp

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Speaker 4: Plus BUT i think the number one thing.

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Speaker 2: That stands out to me is that he literally is

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Speaker 2: the perfect hitter right. Now like right, now he feels

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Speaker 2: like AN mlb the show when you can just manipulate

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Speaker 2: an automatic home. Run like he doesn't, chase he doesn't,

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Speaker 2: Whiff he hits the ball as hard as. Anybody it's

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Speaker 2: left hitters of all. Time it doesn't, really it's almost.

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Speaker 2: Unfathomable the only, issue the only flaw has been that

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Speaker 2: hasn't been, working and that's literally been In, otherwise he's.

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Speaker 2: Perfect you can talk about the, defense but, Whatever who,

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Speaker 4: Bat.

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Speaker 5: Uh Jordon, alvarez by the, way a ninety four percent

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Speaker 5: many times are you making? Contact Jordon alvarez is at

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Speaker 5: a ninety three point eight percent zone contact. Rate for,

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Speaker 5: Reference Luisa rise is at ninety four point, Four Xavier

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Speaker 5: a higher zone contact rate than guys Like Jose ramirez

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Speaker 5: and slap hitters Like Andre simenez And Jacob. Wilson he's

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Speaker 5: better Than kevin McGonagall right now in terms of his own.

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Speaker 5: Contact it's just amazing that there's a guy that's like

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Speaker 5: hundred and eight ten miles an hour that is at

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Speaker 5: Chase it's like If Nico horner had, juice like, serious serious.

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Speaker 5: Juice that's what we're talking about with Jord On alparez

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Speaker 2: Moment that that's the craziest part is usually these insane

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Speaker 2: And Luisa rice is because those guys are almost always

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Speaker 4: Feel like they can get to.

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Speaker 2: Everything so when you're at a zone contact rate that

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Speaker 4: Party you can get a.

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Speaker 2: Seventy hit tool that right now is playing like an

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Speaker 2: i think if we see him stay, healthy this could

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Speaker 4: SEEN i don't think that's crazy to. Say On april twenty, First.

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Speaker 5: No this could all be a moot point Because Aaron

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Speaker 5: could go. Berserk But Jordan, alvarez what he is doing

434
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 5: is just. Generational next hot take coming up in a

435
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 5: Moment Just Baseball show, continues of, course has always brought

436
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 5: to you by BET Mgm jack McMullin arm Lighton peyton.

437
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 5: Genis my next hot take for you is a pitching.

438
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 5: Take Dylan ceese was at ninety nine pitches through four

439
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 5: and third innings. Yesterday seas only lasted five, innings But

440
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 5: Dylan czek twelve In anaheim last. Night Dylan cees is

441
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 5: Pacing Major League baseball right now in punchouts and through

442
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 5: five turns in the, Rotation Dylan ceese has forty four

443
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,920
Speaker 5: k's and twenty five and two thirds. Innings he's got

444
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 5: a two point one to ZERO, era opponents are hitting

445
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,120
Speaker 5: two hundred against, him and he has yet to be.

446
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 5: BARRELED i think no homers Against dylan ces so far

447
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 5: in his front five. Turns so my take for, you

448
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 5: there was only one guy last, year and the last

449
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 5: guy to do that before that Was Spencer strider in

450
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,679
Speaker 5: his two hundred and eighty k. SEASON i believe in

451
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 5: twenty twenty, THREE i Think Dylan SE's has a two

452
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty strikeout.

453
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,679
Speaker 3: Season it's your take on.

454
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 4: That it's kind of hard to argue right.

455
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 2: NOW i, mean just look at the hitter reactions and

456
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 2: like this is this is one where you just you

457
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 2: can look at all the. Metrics they're all off the charts.

458
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 2: Right opponents are chasing forty percent of the, time so

459
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 2: one of the highest figures are gonna see from a starting,

460
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 2: pitcher and as a, result they're striking out forty percent

461
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 2: of the. Time BUT i think the biggest thing with

462
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,439
Speaker 2: him is that it looks like the stuff across the

463
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 2: board is just ratcheted up a little. Bit and then

464
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 2: With seas now like he's effectively wild when he's off

465
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 2: a little. BIT i think you see him get just

466
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: wild and take himself out of. Situations here he's getting

467
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 2: himself back into, counts, like, yes he's still walking.

468
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 4: Hitters at a pretty high.

469
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 2: Clip but for the most part he's able to turn

470
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: the page and walk back, in whether it's getting back

471
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: into account or when AND i bet gets away from

472
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 2: him saying all, right take first.

473
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 4: Base i'm just gonna strike the next guy.

474
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 2: Out and that's like The Blake snell thing that we had,

475
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: seen you, know through the stretches where he was so

476
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 2: good as. WELL i think he's gonna get pretty darn

477
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 2: close to. That AND i JUST i don't see how he,

478
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: doesn't because again he is going a little bit deeper

479
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 2: into outings and giving himself more opportunities to rack up these.

480
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 4: Kids was it two outings already with twelve k's this.

481
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 5: Year, Yeah so we're not sitting here saying, like, OH i.

482
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 5: DON'T i really don't think anybody watching or listening to

483
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 5: this show right now is, saying you, know come, on

484
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 5: be more, gutsy give us three hundred. Punchouts three hundred

485
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 5: punch outs probably a thing of the past at this,

486
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 5: point and, honestly it went away POST. COVID i think

487
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 5: if you're looking at POST covid, baseball there have been

488
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 5: three two hundred and FIFTY k.

489
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 3: Seasons Garrett.

490
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 5: Cole in twenty twenty, two he punched out two hundred

491
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 5: and fifty. Seven in twenty twenty, Three Spencer stryder struck

492
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 5: out two hundred eighty, one and then last Year Garrett

493
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 5: crochet struck out two hundred and fifty. Five so we

494
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 5: are lucky to maybe get one guy at two hundred

495
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 5: and fifty punch. Outs i'm not gonna push it to

496
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 5: three hundred because that's. Unrealistic this is take. Theater notice

497
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 5: the bottom ticker does not say hot take. Theater that's

498
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 5: WHY i push it to two. Fifty there are a

499
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 5: couple other guys that could flirt with. THAT i have

500
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 5: no idea what the brewery usage Of Jacob miselerowski is

501
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 5: going to. Be But misslerowski right now is north of

502
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 5: forty punch outs. ALREADY a couple other guys near the

503
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 5: top of the. League Gavin williams is at forty, Strikeouts

504
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 5: Jose siriano at thirty nine k through five. Turns sanchez

505
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,239
Speaker 5: is at thirty, Nine schlitler is at thirty. SIX i

506
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 5: think the only guy honestly was ceased just based on

507
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 5: limitations and can you?

508
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 3: Go can you throw enough? Innings can you make him enough.

509
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 3: Starts the only.

510
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 5: Guy that can maybe flirt with two fifty this year

511
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 5: is Probably sanchez the way that he has started and

512
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 5: the way that he has guys off.

513
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 3: Kilter But cease just has way more potent.

514
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 5: Strikeout, stuff and That slider and Bugs bunny change up just.

515
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: Insane what's going on right?

516
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 5: Now?

517
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah so of course we had the crochet last

518
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 4: year two fifty.

519
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: Five the crazy one to me is like looking at

520
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: some of the three hundreds that we've actually had like

521
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 2: in this, uh in this. Lifetime it's JUST i almost

522
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: forgot That Justin verlander got to three hundred in twenty.

523
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: Nineteen that's a pretty crazy number for him to get.

524
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: To BUT i, agree LIKE i think you could push

525
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: it maybe to two sixty two sixty, five but that

526
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: would still be like thirty strikeouts, more forty strikeouts more

527
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 2: Than Dylan c's career high two twenty. Four SO i

528
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 2: THINK i think you could push it a little. HIGHER

529
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 2: i think you can get a little bit, Edgier BUT

530
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 2: i still think that's a pretty crazy call out because,

531
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: again Even Trek scouble last year was was non k

532
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: shy of the two fifty, plateau and that was a

533
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: pretty perfect pitching.

534
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 3: Season, yeah And.

535
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 5: Schooble you, Know skeens could maybe get, there BUT i don't,

536
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 5: know it doesn't really seem Like skeens has the case.

537
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 5: STUFF i guess we were. Anticipating, HONESTLY i Thought crochet could.

538
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 5: Repeat but can, you like we've got about a minute

539
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 5: left in this, segment can you shed some light on

540
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 5: why you think this is happening To crochet right? Now

541
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 5: Because Garrett crochet has struggled mightily in a couple of

542
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 5: different starts now like major major blips on the.

543
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 4: Radar it's, wild you.

544
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: KNOW i think it just shows you how hard it

545
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: is to just consistently be. GREAT i think a little

546
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: bit of it has just been the execution side of.

547
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: Things and, YEAH i mean you look at the expected

548
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: era expected batting, average both are in the twentieth percentile

549
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: In Major League. Baseball AND i WISH i had a specific,

550
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: answer but when you look at just the heat maps

551
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 2: of where the pitch locasions, are, like he loves that, cutter,

552
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 2: right and that cutter has been over the heart of

553
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: the plate a lot more than it has been in

554
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: the past this, year and that's a pitch he throws

555
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: nearly thirty percent of the.

556
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 4: Time you look at the, sinker that's a picture that he.

557
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: Usually likes to wear at the bottom of the zone

558
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: and working off the plate away that's been closer towards

559
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 2: the center of the plate more, frequently SO i think

560
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: it's fallen behind and, counts and then a lot of

561
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: misses over the middle that have him, just you, know

562
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: not really able to leverage that big time swing and

563
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: miss stuff that usually works in different.

564
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 5: Directions, Yep So Garrett, crochet he's really struggling right. Now but,

565
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 5: yeah that's my. Take Dylan ces he gets to two

566
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty punch outs. Again other guys that could

567
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 5: get there Maybe, sanchez Maybe schlitler if he throws, enough

568
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 5: and Maybe miserowski if he does throw. Enough but we

569
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 5: shall see halfway home when we come. Back more hot

570
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 5: takes on The Just Baseball, Show Just Baseball, show as

571
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 5: always presented By BETT. Mgm we pivot to the team

572
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 5: hot takes, here And i'm gonna give you one that's

573
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 5: rather large right, now and they BOTH i guess work

574
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 5: against THE La dodgers because a lot of baseball fans

575
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 5: would just be sitting here and, saying you know, what

576
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 5: it's The Dodger. Invitational they're going for three. Straight It's

577
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 5: dodgers versus the. Field, YadA, YadA. YadA the first part

578
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 5: That i'm gonna throw you is in the, division and

579
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 5: THEN i will get a little bit deeper with AN

580
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 5: al team within the. DIVISION i Think San diego can

581
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 5: really pushed The dodgers atop The National League.

582
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 3: West right.

583
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,479
Speaker 5: NOW i understand the depth of The, dodgers but at

584
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 5: the end of the, Day San diego's a game. Back right,

585
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 5: now they've started fifteen and. Seven they've been hot as can.

586
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 5: BE i think they've won nine of the last. Ten

587
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 5: The dodgers, meanwhile they are sixteen and. Six But Edwin

588
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 5: diz just underwent surgery to take loose bodies out of his.

589
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 5: Elbow it sounds like a three to four month, recovery

590
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 5: likely three month recovery For Edwin.

591
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 3: Diaz they signed a closer to have a.

592
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 5: Closer they have had a closer identity problem over the

593
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 5: last handful of. Years it has been The dodgers' non

594
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 5: fatal flaw because they've won back to Back World, series

595
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 5: but it has been The dodger. Flaw and now the

596
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 5: guy that you just signed to a fifty million dollars

597
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 5: contract to handle the ninth, inning cannot handle the ninth

598
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 5: inning for the bulk of the. Season i'm not saying

599
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 5: The padres win the. Division i'm just saying they're gonna

600
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 5: be pesky as heck and they're just gonna stick around

601
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 5: atop THE Nl west with The, dodgers and they're gonna

602
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 5: give him a fight this.

603
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 4: YEAR i like.

604
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: It you, KNOW i Know peter does so well on

605
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: his futures and, LIKE i know he's gonna win more

606
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: than he doesn't on those.

607
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 4: Future predictions and those future. Picks but this was the one.

608
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: THAT i was a little bit skeptical, of just because

609
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: when he was Leaning padres, under just BECAUSE i think

610
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 2: this offense is so much better from where we saw. It,

611
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: remember at this point last, year at the start of the,

612
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: season the back half of that lineup was. Horrendous now

613
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 2: the catching situation is even far, better BECAUSE i, think for,

614
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: me is still going to be a solid player compared

615
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: to what they've had in the. Past even as bad

616
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 2: as he's, been he's grading out always well as a,

617
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 2: defender but even if he. Struggles looks Like Louis campusano

618
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 2: is starting to really settle in as a player both

619
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 2: defensively and.

620
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 4: Offensively there and.

621
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 5: Real, quick sorry to cut you off, there BUT i

622
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 5: thought it was really cool to Hear campusano talk about

623
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 5: what Having Craig stamon as a manager does for. Him

624
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 5: campusano has been a project for a really long, time

625
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 5: so much so That Craig stamon was a teammate Of

626
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 5: Louis campissano's and a former battery mate Of Louis. Campusano's

627
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 5: campusano we still consider like this young catching project and

628
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 5: like we'll, see he's not a vet by any, means

629
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 5: But campusano was talking about the confidence that having a

630
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 5: former teammate as his manager In stanmon instills in. HIM

631
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 5: i just thought like that subplot was a perfect microcosmo

632
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 5: what's happening In San diego right.

633
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: Now AND i think with Campus ono the last, piece

634
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: it just seemed like it was, mental you. Know SO

635
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: i think having that comfort and settling in at the

636
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: big league level in, GENERAL i think is absolutely. HUGE

637
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: i think a lot of things are going well internally,

638
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: Too like you're seeing the pitching side of things and

639
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: development of A Randy. Vasquez but, also and that's what

640
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: they've always leaned into with rub Min. Diebolo but how

641
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: About Walker bueller AND i hope he can continue doing.

642
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 4: It but he looked really good last time.

643
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: Out he's talking about how good he, feels giving credit

644
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: to the, coaches AND i mean the v low was

645
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: backup last. Outing we're gonna see him PITCH i think

646
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: today or, tomorrow depending on when you're listening to this.

647
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: Again AND i, mean If bueller is is just even

648
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: sixty percent of what we've seen from, HIM i think

649
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: that's huge for this. Rotation and then you know that

650
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: this is going to be the best bullpen In Major

651
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: League baseball if it's not statistically, LIKE i trust it

652
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: more than any bullpen In Major League. BASEBALL i Hope

653
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: Jeremiah strata gets, back you, know even within a couple of.

654
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: Months they're fine because they just Got Jason adam, back

655
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: and then The Nick Pivetta Joe musgrove wrinkle is. Huge

656
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: BUT i think for the regular season side of, things

657
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: this offense is going to keep you. Afloat you Have

658
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: king And vasquez holding it down a little bit at the.

659
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: Top at, least you, know you Hope waldron can just

660
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: come in and eat some innings for you and the

661
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: bullpen is going to be.

662
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,239
Speaker 4: FANTASTIC i love this. OFFENSE i think they're gonna. RAKE

663
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 4: i like the.

664
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: Bench my problem, IS i don't know how anyone keeps

665
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: up with The dodgers when like you Have Dalton rushing

666
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: hitting like twice a week and it's a it's a home,

667
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: run you know every other at, bat and then, uh

668
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: there's the depth that they, have Like hess And kim

669
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: can just plug in there and be, great and then

670
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: The River ryan is just getting bored and TRIPLE. A

671
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: i THINK i think The padres get, outlasted But i'm buying.

672
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 4: That they can keep this thing.

673
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: Closer LIKE i don't think The dodgers are gonna run

674
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: away and have definitively the biggest gap between first and

675
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: second place of any. DIVISION i definitely Think i'm.

676
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 4: Buying that this.

677
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: Could i'm buying that it won't be the biggest gap

678
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: between us in second.

679
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 4: Place THAT i can give.

680
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 5: You i'm in on. That, Okay So i'm gonna pivot

681
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 5: us to AN al team in a, moment but before,

682
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 5: THAT i do want to shed some light on the,

683
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 5: bullpen because everybody knows About Mason miller to this, point,

684
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 5: Right Mason miller could be a cy young contender in

685
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 5: The National. League Wandy peralta is just rinse and, repeat

686
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 5: like be good and be a. Fireman through ten, Appearances

687
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 5: wandy ten innings of two run ball with ten. Ks

688
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 5: but why should the world be aware of Who Brad

689
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 5: Gleay rodriguez. Is you have liked him for a long.

690
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 5: Time he's. Disgusting twelve and a third innings a one run.

691
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 4: Ball he is.

692
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: Gross and they have more guys like that THAT i

693
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: think could potentially still pop up and help, Them But

694
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: rodriguez is someone that's really.

695
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 4: Emerged by the, way still only twenty two years.

696
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: Old they have like six different guys THAT i would

697
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: trust at, leverage And rodriguez has just been more about

698
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: the experience for him and just getting more.

699
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 4: Comfortable but when you have.

700
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: A fastball that you, KNOW i think just has the

701
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: sheer velocity that his has in the upper, nineties touching

702
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: north of one hundred miles per, hour and it's a

703
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: force are in a, sinker and then the change up

704
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: that looks the same off of that that just drops below,

705
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: it and then a bridge cutter and the upper, eighties

706
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: like these relievers that have four pitches are just they're just.

707
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: DIFFERENT i don't know how you game plan for. That

708
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: you barely see the. Guy usually you can go, okay fastball.

709
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: SLIDER i am gonna be on one and hope with

710
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: gradually and some of these other guys you can't do,

711
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: that AND i think that's what makes him so.

712
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 5: Good all, right here's my next take for, you and

713
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 5: this is the hottest one THAT i. HAVE i think

714
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 5: The yankees get their First World series since two thousand and.

715
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 5: NINE i think The yankees are built to beat The.

716
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 5: Dodgers is that? Fair that's a fun. One i'm glad you. Reune,

717
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 5: yeah invalidated for. ME i would love to not see

718
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 5: it just invalidated for, me, Please.

719
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: I'll try my best one valid it BECAUSE i do

720
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: think the pitching side of things is really, scary like

721
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: when The Garrett cole is already.

722
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 4: Trending, back Ro don's not too far.

723
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: Behind Uh and then the one PART i will look

724
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: at AND i know they've graded out statistically. FINE i

725
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: don't love the. BULLPEN i don't Think camillo Dov all

726
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: is very. GOOD i think he was one of those

727
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: guys that we saw the best right when he came.

728
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: UP i just don't know if he has that definitive

729
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: putaway stuff that you want from a GUY i. CAN

730
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: i think there's a lot of alliance On Tim hill

731
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: And Brent, hedrick and, like those guys are really solid

732
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: in the regular, season how much do you trust them and.

733
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: Leverage Fernando cruz is your second best reliever in terms

734
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: of swing and miss lever. Stuff he walks the, world

735
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: AND i Like David bednar a, lot but he's not

736
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: Necessarily Greg maddix out there. Either SO i think this,

737
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: bullpen when everything's, clicking everyone's, hot it can be pretty.

738
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: Good BUT i also think it's a definitive weakness for.

739
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: Them that's the only THING i can really point towards

740
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: and say this will do them in BECAUSE i think

741
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: the offense is only going to get better as other

742
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: guys starts to inevitably pick up and this pitching staff is.

743
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 5: Stupid, Okay so my counter to that, is why Can't

744
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 5: Brian cashman pick up the phone On june tenth and

745
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 5: Call Dana brown and say we Want brian a bray

746
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 5: you in a walk.

747
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 4: Here and then just fix. HIM i know he's really,

748
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 4: struggled but, like, yeah they could do.

749
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 2: That they've very aggressively addressed the bullpen in the last

750
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: couple of, years AND i think that's something that you'll

751
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: See cashman do.

752
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 4: Again so that's the, Thing Like i'm just trying to

753
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 4: give you some some.

754
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: Pushback the BULLPEN i don't like at, all but you

755
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 2: hedge that with ridiculous rotation.

756
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 4: DEPTH i Think luis heel ends up being in that.

757
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 2: Bullpen we'll, see maybe he ends up performing better when

758
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: he is relegated to that.

759
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 4: Role but this.

760
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 2: Pitching staff, man it's crazy you pair that With Ben,

761
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: rice you, know emerging into this offensive.

762
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 4: Star whether he maintains this.

763
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: Or, NOT i think it's very obvious that this guy

764
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 2: is going to absolutely. Rake and then all the other

765
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 2: pieces THAT i don't really have to sell you. ON

766
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: i think the big thing too would be shortstop slash third,

767
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 2: base just the left side of the endfield like McMahon

768
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: can't really. Hit and then It's caballero And vulpi Like

769
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: caballero hasn't been swinging it grade. Either that would be

770
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: the and then they could kind of do them. In

771
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: but if those guys are defending at an elite clip

772
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: and giving you some value on the, base pats at

773
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: the end of the.

774
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 5: Day WHO i don't think it's gonna do you In

775
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 5: So i'm excited to see a Healthy vulpy when he

776
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 5: does eventually come, Back LIKE i would be curious to

777
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 5: see what a Healthy Anthony volpan looks. Like and then

778
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 5: just taking a peek at this lineup right, Now Man

779
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 5: bellinger is walking more than he's striking.

780
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 3: Out grisham is off to a slow.

781
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 5: Start batting average, wise he's hitting a buck sixty, seven

782
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 5: but he's got a three to twenty one on base.

783
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 5: Percentage he's walking more than he's striking. Out judge has nine,

784
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 5: Homers rice has eight. Homers he's got eighteen walks. Drawn

785
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 5: already through twenty two, games The New York yankees have

786
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 5: drawn one hundred and nine walks and they're seven thirty

787
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 5: THREE ops as a, team is six best in. Baseball

788
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 5: they're also top ten in baseball in staffyra even with

789
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 5: a middling. Bullpen and then talking about the rotation depth

790
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 5: that you, Have, okay heel goes to.

791
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: The, bullpen Maybe weathers goes to the.

792
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 5: Bullpen two when you get two arms back And Ryan

793
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 5: weathers has punched out thirty six and what does.

794
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: This city you, like can't you like almost?

795
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 3: Can't it's? Insane what's going?

796
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: On?

797
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 5: Man we've got about thirty seconds left, Here but can

798
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 5: you get behind, that like if it's not The, dodgers

799
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 5: and obviously it's an uphill.

800
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 3: Battle and again fifteen seconds is yes or? No quick?

801
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: Reason why are The yankees picked? Two clearly or? No right?

802
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 2: Now? Yes because the pitch in can go toe to.

803
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: Toe and AGAIN i don't need to sell you on

804
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: the top of that.

805
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 5: OFFENSE i think The yankees can win their First World

806
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 5: series in two thousand and. Nine here in twenty twenty,

807
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 5: six we shall see one more take when we come.

808
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 5: Back all, right The Just Baseball show continues. Here we

809
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 5: just talked about The yankees possibly winning The World. Series

810
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 5: we talked about The padres contending with The dodgers in

811
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 5: The National League, west and NOW i want to pivot

812
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 5: us to a.

813
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: Position and my last.

814
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 5: Hot take THAT i have for you before we get

815
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 5: to Clutch performers presented By morgan And, morgan is THAT

816
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 5: i think could Tell marte's reign atop the second base

817
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 5: power rankings maybe.

818
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 3: OVER i think that this is.

819
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 5: A battle for the best second basement in baseball TITLE

820
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 5: i Think Bryce terrang is battling a top, that AND

821
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 5: i Think Nico horner is battling a top. That these two,

822
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 5: guys their start to the year have been absolutely. Incredible

823
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 5: horner through twenty two games is driven in twenty one

824
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 5: guys to share the major league. Lead he's hitting three twenty,

825
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 5: two and he's got one of the best zone contact

826
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 5: rates In Major League. Baseball, Meanwhile terrang is walking like

827
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 5: he really never. Has he's hitting the ball out of the,

828
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 5: ballpark he's swiping bags. Again he stole fifty bases in

829
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 5: twenty twenty. Four why can't he do that again in

830
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 5: twenty twenty, six and he's hitting three. Hundred these guys

831
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 5: have been neck and, neck AND i love That peyton

832
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 5: pulled this. Up since the beginning of the twenty twenty four,

833
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 5: Season Bryce terrang has an eleven point eight b War

834
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 5: Nico horner at eleven point. Seven they've played almost an

835
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 5: identical number Of gamesterrang in three hundred and thirty, Games

836
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 5: horner in three hundred and twenty nine. Games you are

837
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 5: splitting hairs between these, two AND i do think that

838
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 5: these two are the gold standard of second base play

839
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 5: In Major league.

840
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: Baseball right.

841
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: Now, yeah that's the part that's really difficult because Like

842
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: katel is so, Different Like katel is gonna just go

843
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 2: hit you thirty five home runs and net neutral defend

844
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: like at second, base and you're gonna be happy with, it,

845
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 2: OBVIOUSLY i and he's still gonna dh a decent bit

846
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: here and there. Too when you look at a war

847
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 2: at the war, OUTPUT i think there's a very real

848
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: scenario where both those guys could turn out turn out

849
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: at higher. War but If i'm hitting thirty homers From

850
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: Katel marte in a one to FIFTY wrc plus and

851
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: he's not a liability, Defensively i'm probably still taking. That that,

852
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: SAID i think by the end of this year it's

853
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 2: not looked at as Like Kutel marte to your, point

854
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: and then everybody, ELSE i do think that when you

855
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: have a guy, that's you, know one of the, BEST

856
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: i didn't just so far and ahead offensively everybody else

857
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: at the, POSITION i do think that that is a

858
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: unique opportunity for a switch hitter with that kind of.

859
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 2: Power but to your, point like what you get From

860
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: terrang And horner is really hard to. Match and If

861
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: Kadel marte isn't thirty percent better than them, offensively you're

862
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: twenty percent better than them.

863
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 4: Offensively then they make up that ground.

864
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: With the, speed with the, defense and with all the

865
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: little intangibles that they bring to the. Table So i'm

866
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 2: gonna be like the status quo guy here and, say,

867
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 2: Look katel hasn't even turned it on. Yet he's got four.

868
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 2: Homers LIKE i Think catel's gonna hit thirty plus and he's.

869
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 4: Gonna eat up.

870
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: Here but it would not surprise me at, all especially

871
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: the fact that terreng already has the four homers in nineteen.

872
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: Games and, uh you, Know nico got his. Extension he's

873
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: probably playing a little, relaxed and not.

874
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 4: That he doesn't.

875
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: Already he seems like he plays his relax as anybody in.

876
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: Baseball AND i mean that in a complimentary. Way i'm

877
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: gonna side with the thirty plus, homers but, MAN i

878
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: don't feel great about. IT i think both those guys

879
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: could end up exceeding Kateel marte in war this.

880
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 5: YEAR i want to spend some time On Nico horner,

881
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 5: here Because Nico, horner there are five qualified hitters In

882
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 5: Major League baseball to this point that have an overall

883
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 5: contact rate over ninety. Percent now in terms of zone,

884
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 5: Contact Stephen kwan has yet to swing and miss in

885
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 5: the strikes On If i'm not, mistaken it's one hundred

886
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 5: percent zon contact rate at least according to fangrabs at

887
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 5: the stand right. Now But Liam hicks is at ninety nine,

888
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 5: Percent Nico horner at ninety eight point. Seven but the

889
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 5: five guys with a contact right over ninety, Percent i'm

890
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 5: on qualified hitters in baseball entering play On, Tuesday Liam

891
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 5: hicks shout, out Go, Fish Luisa, Rise Stephen, Kwan Chandler,

892
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 5: simpson And Nico. Horner, awesome The Chandler simpsons in that,

893
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 5: conversation But horner doing this with some, pop with situational

894
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 5: excellence and playing maybe the best second based defense in the.

895
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 5: League that nine figure extension The cubs just gave Him number.

896
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: One cubs fans.

897
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 5: Can relax right now because we were talking About horner

898
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 5: being a possible trade. SHIP i love That Nico horner

899
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 5: is a piece of The cubs moving. Forward he should

900
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 5: be a face of the franchise type of talent. There

901
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 5: it's clear that he, is and it's weird to say

902
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 5: like he is the more valued one of the middle

903
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 5: infield tanda between him and Dance, me and they paid

904
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 5: Dance me one hundred and, seventy but they paid the

905
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 5: shortstop tax on.

906
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: That horner got paid the way he should have been.

907
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 5: Paid And i'm just really excited For cubs fans That

908
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 5: Nico horner gets to be their.

909
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 4: Star how nice.

910
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: When you're building a, roster if You're Jed, hoyer just

911
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: reshuffling a roster where you have your middle end field

912
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 2: so taken care, of where you know that they're even

913
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 2: on the down year going to combine for like five

914
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: war and if they have a good year, offensively both

915
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: of them can combine for eight eight, Plus and like

916
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: that is just something THAT i think makes it gives

917
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: you such a strong foundation for your ball, club and

918
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: then all the different things that he brings to the.

919
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: Table it's funny comparing these two, though like Comparing trang to,

920
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: him AND i know that this becomes a contentious thing

921
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: Because brewers And cubs fans to love to.

922
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 4: Argue at least from EVERYTHING i see, online it becomes

923
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 4: a little bit of the same conversation.

924
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: Too is LIKE i Think terrang's like a middle ground

925
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: Between horner And marte where it's you're not gonna get

926
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: as much defense and you're not gonna get as much

927
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: contact as you get With, horner but you're gonna get more,

928
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: power more. Selectivity and then with With, katel you're all

929
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: the way on the other end of just the very

930
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: offensive driven iteration of that.

931
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 4: Profile AND i find MYSELF i love all three of.

932
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: THEM i feel like if there's one guy that's kind

933
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: of best equipped to maybe Dethrone, KATEL i do think

934
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: It's rang because he has the ability to defend at

935
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: a better clip than we've seen in the last couple of.

936
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 2: Years but also we're seeing that power uptick here where

937
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: if he hits twenty five, homers WHICH i think he

938
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: can easily do this Year, terrang and he's defending at

939
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: a decent, clip and he's walking at the because he's so. Selective,

940
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: now all of a, SUDDEN i think the ceiling could

941
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: be could be really really. High the thing with With

942
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: terrang is you, know you could have a little bit

943
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: more whift creep in, again the defense could be a

944
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: little bit more. Frustrating SO i think the floor with

945
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 2: A horner is so so, HIGH i just don't go.

946
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 4: Off the ceiling is in a position.

947
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: Where he can Eclipse katel without you, Know katel giving

948
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: a lot. AWAY i feel Like terrang maybe has the

949
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: pop potential to take it, there BUT i feel the

950
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: most confident if you tell me how you had to

951
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: pick one guy to have three plus war at the

952
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: end of the season or you know you're in. TROUBLE

953
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: i THINK i would Take horner and sleep soundly at

954
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 2: night because he doesn't even have to have his best

955
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: season to almost guarantee.

956
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 5: That it's kind of awesome that they're both in the

957
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 5: same division and they're separated by like an hour door

958
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 5: to Door Wrigley field To. AMFAM i, mean this is a,

959
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 5: rivalry and there's like a rivalry within the. Rivalry AND

960
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 5: i hope nobody forgot THE nlds last year because that

961
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 5: was a five game heavyweight About and this is going

962
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 5: to be really fun to Watch horner And terrang kind

963
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 5: of slug it out over the next couple of. Years

964
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 5: there are other irons in the, fire like you, Know Jazz.

965
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 5: Chislm of Course jazz can turn it on and really

966
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 5: get going with the weather warms up a little, bit

967
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 5: And marte to your, point Like marte get it thirty home.

968
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 5: Runs Ozzi alby's is also swinging the crap out of

969
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 5: the bat right, Now so Like Ozzy, ALBS i can

970
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 5: never eliminate him for some. Reason AND i just have

971
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 5: a super soft spot For Ozzie albies and the way

972
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,479
Speaker 5: that he swung it When ozzie was at his. Best

973
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 5: and we're, saying how did this guy sign a seven,

974
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 5: year thirty.

975
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 3: Five million dollar?

976
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 5: Contract but the second base position is in really good

977
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 5: hands right. Now not as good as the shortstop, position

978
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 5: but the second base position is pretty darn taken care,

979
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 5: of all, Right so those were my hot takes here

980
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 5: fifteen seconds left in this? Segment which one was the most?

981
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,439
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982
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 2: One technically, yes BUT i liked it, Okay so, YEAH

983
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,600
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984
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: dodgers keeping pace or The pods keeping pace with The.

985
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,600
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986
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,440
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1017
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Speaker 5: we're not necessarily going to do it by walk off

1018
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,200
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1019
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,160
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1021
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Speaker 5: of the catchers that have been best AT abs so

1022
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 5: far this, year because this is a development that like

1023
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 5: literally every casual baseball fan is asking me, about and

1024
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 5: even non baseball, fans what do you think of THE?

1025
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 3: Abs The Challenge.

1026
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 5: System people that say what do you think of THE,

1027
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 5: abs chances are they have no idea that it stands

1028
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,959
Speaker 5: for automated ball. Strike it's so much fun to watch

1029
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 5: The Challenge system come out to play in such a

1030
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 5: humongous way at the outset of this, year AND i

1031
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 5: just wanted to showcase the top ten catchers in baseball

1032
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 5: in terms of just correctly overturned abs challenge, calls and

1033
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 5: one of the best just from a projection and a percentage,

1034
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 5: Standpoint Dylan ding In. Detroit we have raved about him,

1035
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 5: constantly but, dude he's eleven for thirteen in the challenge.

1036
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 5: System that's just another wrinkle added to his game that

1037
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 5: makes no. Sense and this guy may be a top

1038
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 5: three catcher in the. SPORT i mean that's a huge

1039
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 5: separator there. TOO i think that that's the fun thing

1040
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 5: about this is like it is going to be a

1041
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 5: very important supplemental value to framing as. Well like you

1042
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 5: could steal strikes in two.

1043
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: Ways, now you can steal strikes by uh, one presenting

1044
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: them well consistently and hoping that hitters don't challenge. Them but,

1045
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: two you could steal strikes by properly challenging calls that

1046
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: were you, know one or two pitches off and or

1047
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: one or two balls off or that in either direction

1048
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 2: and just consistently being right versus.

1049
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 4: Wrong because there's also some gravity to being.

1050
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: Wrong it's not just, like, oh, great you stole a,

1051
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: strike it's also good you didn't burn a challenge for

1052
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 2: your hitters or you again later at higher leverage later

1053
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: in the. Ballgame so like being wrong is like compoundingly bad.

1054
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 4: Dingler, dude he's just got a great feel for the.

1055
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: Zone he's frames, well and he's east stealing strikes with

1056
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: with the.

1057
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 5: Abs so there are a couple other guys that jump

1058
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 5: out to me on that catcher. List Salvador perez has

1059
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 5: overturned sixteen. Calls, now he's challenging all the. Time but

1060
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 5: there are some not very good defensive catchers that are

1061
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 5: operating at a pretty high clip, here and that adds

1062
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 5: a whole bunch of value to. You and the guy

1063
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 5: that jumps out to me Is Hunter goodman In. Colorado

1064
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 5: goodman won A Silver slugger last. Year he had a

1065
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 5: thirty home run. Season he's thirteen for seventeen in the abs.

1066
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 5: Department so we're talking about this guy being a not

1067
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 5: great defensive. Catcher, okay the running game is still going

1068
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 5: to be a big factor For Hunter goodman caught. Games,

1069
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 5: okay you, know maybe framing is going to be a

1070
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 5: big factor. There but if he understands the strike zone

1071
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 5: and if he can use abs to his, advantage for,

1072
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 5: Me i'm gonna have to recalibrate at some point soon

1073
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 5: and start Calling Hunter goodman a better defensive catcher than

1074
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 5: WHAT i WANT i thought he.

1075
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 2: Was, yeah BECAUSE i mean, again if you're stealing a

1076
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 2: couple strikes per game with the, abs or even if

1077
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 2: it's one to two you get the elite, framers it

1078
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: grades out to roughly one to two stolen strikes per

1079
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: game like.

1080
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 4: That that's a lot of the best framers that we're

1081
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 4: looking at are stealing about that.

1082
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: Many so that's the craziest part is this actually is

1083
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: going to BECOME i wouldn't say almost as valuable because

1084
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 2: it's it's not as, consistent AND i feel like you

1085
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 2: can also it's hard to fully quantify now this because

1086
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: you're also even when you're not stealing, strikes if you're

1087
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: really good at, presenting you're putting hitters in a in

1088
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 2: a very complex situation where they got to, decide you,

1089
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: know whether they're going to challenge or. Not AND i

1090
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: think that in itself is. Valuable but this is going

1091
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 2: to be more, VALUABLE i think than people were. Anticipating

1092
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: and the fact that we have the ability to measure

1093
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: it with STATCAST i think is really.

1094
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 4: Important and, yeah if you're not a good.

1095
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: Receiver this can chip away at that pretty SIGNIFIC i

1096
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 2: look at even A Mitch Garver.

1097
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 4: Garver six for six for The, Mariners, Like garver's not

1098
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 4: a great help defensive catcher at this stage of his,

1099
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 4: career but that's a great value add for a veteran, here.

1100
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 3: Such a huge value.

1101
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 5: Add so THE abs challenge system been such a joy

1102
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 5: to see implemented in, baseball very pitch. Clocky as soon

1103
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 5: as everybody laid eyes on, it they were, like you know,

1104
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 5: what this thing ain't half bad and now it's going

1105
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 5: to become a very valuable piece of. This that'll do

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00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 5: it for The Just Baseball show as, always thank you

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00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 5: To peyton genus hitting all the right buttons and just

1108
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 5: being a kick butt teammate for arm late And I'm

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00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 5: jack McMullen saying so, Long thank you so much for

1110
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 5: watching and listening wherever you may have watched or. Listened

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Speaker 5: we will talk to you a couple of times later

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Speaker 5: this week On The Just Baseball. Show