WEBVTT - Mick Shots: NFL Draft Intensive

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys. This is nick shot, streaming live on dallascowboys dot

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<v Speaker 2>Com and the official Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>Apt Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and Nicky Spagnola.

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<v Speaker 3>And our pregame coverage of the Jerry Jones pre Draft

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<v Speaker 3>press conference continues here inside the SWBC podcast studio as

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<v Speaker 3>we count down the days to the start of the

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<v Speaker 3>NFL Draft on Thursday, now three days away. Bill Jones

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<v Speaker 3>with Mickey Spagnola. Everson Walls decided that he's gonna let

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<v Speaker 3>us handle the draft talk and he'll be back to

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<v Speaker 3>recap the draft next Monday at eleven am.

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<v Speaker 4>But here we are.

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<v Speaker 2>It's finals draft day finally, right, been talking about this.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like for three months, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've gotten my big green notebook. It's in the

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<v Speaker 3>last month where I've been filling this thing up. Look

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<v Speaker 3>at their you know what way I look at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Every year, it's like I'm back in college. I spend

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<v Speaker 3>the spring semester filling up in the back in the day.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess they use Google doc or whatever they use

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<v Speaker 3>now on their laptops, these young college kids today.

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<v Speaker 4>But I decide, okay, I'm going old school.

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<v Speaker 3>About twelve fourteen years ago, I decided to go old school.

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<v Speaker 4>With my draft preps, with the big green notebook.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think what we should do today is turn

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<v Speaker 2>the tables. I'll ask the questions you answered.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I woke up this morning thinking I could

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<v Speaker 3>talk for days about this draft. Now, Ivey, there are

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<v Speaker 3>all these prospects that I'm discovering. I mean, there's so

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<v Speaker 3>much talk about the top of the draft, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>mainstream media and elsewhere where what's going to happen at

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<v Speaker 3>the top of the draft. Once you really dig into it,

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<v Speaker 3>it is really interesting to see the intriguing prospects that

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<v Speaker 3>are later in the draft. Right it's where the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 3>pick at twenty six or in the second, third, fourth,

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<v Speaker 3>even fifth round. I mean, is it's That's why I

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<v Speaker 3>love this is why I every spring dig into it

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<v Speaker 3>to learn all these players that are coming into the

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<v Speaker 3>league and trying to figure out, like all these teams

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<v Speaker 3>are trying to figure out which guys are gonna make it,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's not all about their forty times or even

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<v Speaker 3>their college production. Is not all about that either. There's

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<v Speaker 3>so much more that goes into it, and so I

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<v Speaker 3>just love digging into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you discover any draft eligible players actually still playing

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<v Speaker 2>in the XFL?

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<v Speaker 3>There is at least one that I yeah, there may

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<v Speaker 3>be more. I haven't I haven't moved to the XFL yet,

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<v Speaker 3>but I did see something about there's one who is

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<v Speaker 3>draft eligible who's trying to increase his stock, right, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>And there's maybe more than one. I don't know, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but I haven't got to that point yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Which, by the way, I learned a very interesting little

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<v Speaker 2>fact about the XFL.

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<v Speaker 3>What's that?

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<v Speaker 2>So you know they're all based here, that's right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but they play in their respective cities. Respective cities, both

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<v Speaker 2>teams ride the same charter flight.

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<v Speaker 4>That's understandable.

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<v Speaker 2>The home team gets to sit in the front of

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<v Speaker 2>the plane, the visitors sit in the back, and after

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<v Speaker 2>the game, both teams are on the same playing going home.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, and I'm not sure I haven't worked to confirm

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<v Speaker 3>this or not, but yesterday we had a matchup of

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<v Speaker 3>the Arlington Renegadees of coached by Bob Stoops against Wade

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<v Speaker 3>Phillips Houston Roughnecks as it turned out it was a

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<v Speaker 3>meaningless game because Wade has won another division championship as

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<v Speaker 3>the head coach of the Roughnecks and he his team

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<v Speaker 3>will play Stoops team, the Renegade in the first round

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<v Speaker 3>of the playoffs on Saturday night. But when they met

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<v Speaker 3>earlier this season, the announcer said something. Actually in their

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<v Speaker 3>postgame handshake, Stoops and Philip said to each other, see

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<v Speaker 3>you back at the house. Yeah, have they been living now?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know roommates live out the spring, but they

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<v Speaker 3>might have a complex where they put all these guys, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I would imagine, so, yeah, and maybe the coach I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I heard see that they were like roommates.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, I wonder if they sit at

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<v Speaker 3>the front of the plane together, you know. Uh, Which,

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<v Speaker 3>it's got to be a weird atmosphere after you play

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<v Speaker 3>somebody and then it's like, okay, let's go board. And

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, I understand that hey is in the

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<v Speaker 3>barn for any football game by the day before the

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<v Speaker 3>game or the two days before the game.

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<v Speaker 4>But Stoops was.

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<v Speaker 3>In Norman, Oklahoma on Friday and Saturday for their.

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<v Speaker 4>Spring game and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, Yeah, so that was just an aside, But I

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<v Speaker 3>thought that was it sting and there's a Cowboys connection

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<v Speaker 3>because Wade Phillips can put that.

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<v Speaker 4>On his resume as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, Now he's a couple of wins away from winning

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<v Speaker 3>a championship in the XFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So who are the Cowboys drafting? How many times

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<v Speaker 2>have you been asked that question?

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<v Speaker 3>Several times? And who knows who the Cowboys are drafting?

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<v Speaker 2>So good?

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<v Speaker 3>You know it is a and the reason is and

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<v Speaker 3>in fact, I heard Charlie White's talking about it on

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<v Speaker 3>my drive in on NFL Radio that he cannot remember

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<v Speaker 3>a draft where it was so uncertain in the first

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<v Speaker 3>round what teams are going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do compared to this one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this one.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the most uncertain draft he has ever heard

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<v Speaker 3>of or seen in the first round, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you think about it. At the top of the first round,

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<v Speaker 3>it now appears that the Alabama quarterback Bryce Young is

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<v Speaker 3>going to Carolina. There's been so much talk about CJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Stroud is stock dropping and so forth, and is Houston

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<v Speaker 3>now out on tape in a quarterback? And will they

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<v Speaker 3>take Will Richardson from Alabama or will they Now the

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<v Speaker 3>talk is Tyree Wilson from Texas Tech or do they

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<v Speaker 3>trade out? And so we don't Houston controls the draft

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<v Speaker 3>right now, if you're gonna believe that Bryce Young is

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<v Speaker 3>going to Carolina and so it all and then it

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<v Speaker 3>just trickles down depending on what Houston does. Then we

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what Arizona's gonna do on down the Indianapolis

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<v Speaker 3>at four? Are they going to take a quarter what's Seattle?

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<v Speaker 3>They may take a cause if Stroud falls whatever, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you really don't know from there. And then

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<v Speaker 3>as he gets related to the Cowboys, what's gonna happen

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<v Speaker 3>with b John Robinson?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>And if some of these guys trickle down, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>there's been talk about Philadelphia might even be interested in

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<v Speaker 3>Bjehon Robinson at number ten. But what if those deep

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<v Speaker 3>one of those defensive players moves down to number ten

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<v Speaker 3>and they want to take somebody, you know, like the

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<v Speaker 3>Georgia like Carter, the Georgia defensive tackle, who may be

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<v Speaker 3>the best player in the entire draft.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you think from a talent standpoint, stand out

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<v Speaker 2>great players coming out in this draft that there's fewer

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<v Speaker 2>than we're used to seeing of the After you get

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<v Speaker 2>past the quarterbacks, I mean, who's the greatest defense.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and even with the quarterbacks, there's nothing in

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterbacks. It says that who knows what's going to

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<v Speaker 3>how Bryce Young is going to do at this size

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<v Speaker 3>in this league. I yeah, I think it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>a handful of guys that, like you think back to

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<v Speaker 3>the Tyron Smith draft where Tyron went tenth and.

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<v Speaker 4>JJ Watt was.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we're talking we're ten to eleven picks in

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<v Speaker 3>the draft and you've got Hall of famers being drafted, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know that this draft has that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll see, but I mean there are certain drafts where

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<v Speaker 3>you could you know, there were you know, eight to

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<v Speaker 3>ten players that Okay, these are your top ten picks

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<v Speaker 3>in this draft, and who knows. I mean there could

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<v Speaker 3>be a guy who's who some think is going fifth,

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<v Speaker 3>who may wind up going fifteenth or eighteenth, and it

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<v Speaker 3>has nothing to do with any off the field stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just how they've been evaluated.

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<v Speaker 2>By So thus the uncertainty exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right wide receiver, I mean it's at the top.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there are some good wide receivers from late

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<v Speaker 3>first through the fourth round, fifth round, even I like

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the wide receivers in that third and

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<v Speaker 3>fourth round range, but there's not the Calvin Johnson types.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not you know, who knows if Jackson Smith and

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<v Speaker 3>Jigba is going to wind up being like a CD

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<v Speaker 3>Lamb in his career.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he may be the.

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<v Speaker 3>Top guy, but some have Jordan Addison from USC being

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<v Speaker 3>the top guy. There's the TCU big wide receiver, Quinton Johnson's.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not very many big wide receivers in this draft either,

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<v Speaker 3>and so if you want to get one of those

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<v Speaker 3>who like a Quentin Johnston, then maybe you have to

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<v Speaker 3>take him in the first round because there's nothing late so.

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<v Speaker 2>From a size standpoint, because I saw one analysis going

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<v Speaker 2>on and it said that if you're torn between cornerbacks

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<v Speaker 2>and wide receivers, you better take the cornerback in the

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<v Speaker 2>first round because there's more wide receivers, second third, more

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<v Speaker 2>quality depth.

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<v Speaker 3>There's good there's quality, I think quality cornerbacks in the

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<v Speaker 3>early rounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so that that that were saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you like that cornerback, you better grab them.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's and it's the cornerbacks that have the size

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<v Speaker 3>that teams are looking for now. Right, dan Quinn is

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<v Speaker 3>looking for now.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly you know, So don't don't sell the Cowboys short

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<v Speaker 2>on that possible, now, that's right? Yeah, or any actually

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<v Speaker 2>any because my answer has been universal when somebody asked

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<v Speaker 2>me that, I said, you, you give me a position

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<v Speaker 2>short of quarterback and the first round, and I'll give

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<v Speaker 2>you a reason why the Cowboys should take that position.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's run through it right now, okay, short,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can make the case for quarterback on the

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<v Speaker 3>third day, right, okay, absolutely, all right, running back. Here's

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<v Speaker 3>a situation at running back. And by the way, what

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<v Speaker 3>two people are looking at what the Cowboys do in

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<v Speaker 3>this draft more so than Ezekiel Elliott and Tony Pollard? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>both of them?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, oh yeah, because Pollard knows he's out a one

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<v Speaker 2>year guaranteed deal and nothing's promised for twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>And how does that affect him going forward if the

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys pick a running back in the.

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<v Speaker 2>First right, is he still in the same role right

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<v Speaker 2>as the contract?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, is pending contract? Yeah, and for obvious reason,

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<v Speaker 3>Zeke as well. So there you've got running back. Pollard's

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<v Speaker 3>in his franchise, in his contract year. Zeke obviously out

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<v Speaker 3>there's obviously an opening at the end right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, you know they picked up the fifth year option

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<v Speaker 3>on CD LAMB. That rossed the news from the last

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<v Speaker 3>few days, and that was as.

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<v Speaker 2>Expected, seventeen point nine million guaranteed for his fifth year.

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<v Speaker 3>So they have him under contract through twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they restructured Brandon Cook's contract, so he's got

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<v Speaker 2>two years remaining.

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<v Speaker 3>And he is.

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<v Speaker 4>Well where is he at?

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<v Speaker 3>His age? Written down here somewhere and I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>it anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but I think it's thirty yep. And then they're

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<v Speaker 2>banking on Michael Gallup coming back playing I mean not

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<v Speaker 2>coming back, but playing to the level he played before

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<v Speaker 2>he tore his ACL and after that, well it's question marks.

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<v Speaker 2>You know they're going to give Jayalen Tolbert a chance,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, another wide receiver I could follow down that,

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and as early as the first and that's obviously

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<v Speaker 3>tight end tight end Okay, But.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing I think you need to remember about tight

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<v Speaker 2>end is they don't need some fancy speed guy that

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<v Speaker 2>goes downfield. They need a complete tight end, somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>can block, because in my books, that's where they fell short.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Jake Ferguson has potential to be that complete

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<v Speaker 2>tight end. But if the guy can block, I would

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<v Speaker 2>put that above his ability to go vertical.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a tackle that can play guard, but you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do that two years in a row, that's the question.

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<v Speaker 4>And what the Cowboys have right now.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a tackle who can play guard in Tyler Smith, right,

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<v Speaker 3>they drafted the first round.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me stop you right there, because if you

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<v Speaker 2>listen to Steven Jones this past week, he was pretty

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<v Speaker 2>adamant that Tyler Smith, it's our left tackle.

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<v Speaker 3>He is the left tackle, all right, So then you

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<v Speaker 3>have Tyron Smith while Terrence Steele comes back from his

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<v Speaker 3>ACL injury, Tyron Smith is your starting right.

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<v Speaker 2>Tackle if Terrence isn't ready.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>So those are your three top tackles.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and then.

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<v Speaker 4>And opening at the inn at left guard.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're gonna look at Josh Ball there, They're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>look at Farniac there, and then they can look in

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<v Speaker 2>the draft. But again, you don't need to draft in

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<v Speaker 2>the first round a guard, right You can get one

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<v Speaker 2>in the second or third round somewhere. In there that

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<v Speaker 2>might be good enough to walk in and start.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, what's Tyler Battish's contract status.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in going into the final year of his rookie.

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<v Speaker 4>Final year of his contract.

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<v Speaker 2>So if a guard can play center or a center

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<v Speaker 2>can play guard.

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<v Speaker 4>And Zach Martin Is will be thirty three in.

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<v Speaker 2>November, Yeah, that's all right, he's got three years left.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same point, we're not drafting just for

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<v Speaker 3>this year, right, drafting for the next five years.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're a first.

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<v Speaker 3>Rounder in the next four years beyond the first round.

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<v Speaker 2>See, my thought was, if Tyron Smith was judged, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>good enough to play left tackle, then they could move

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Smith inside. But I think Stephen Jones point was,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, the overwhelming feeling is is Tyler Smith is

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<v Speaker 2>a left tackle well.

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<v Speaker 3>And the other part of that is Tyron has not

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<v Speaker 3>been able to play a full season right because of

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<v Speaker 3>injuries here in recent years.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was in that he's played eleven or

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen games over the last fifty games that he could

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<v Speaker 2>have played. So you know, they can say, okay, he's fine,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's back in shape and whatever, but again,

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<v Speaker 2>how well did he play when he was starting. Now

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<v Speaker 2>if Terrence and everything I've heard is Terrence Steele, they

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<v Speaker 2>feel like has a good chance of being ready to

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<v Speaker 2>start the season. But I bet when they get the

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<v Speaker 2>training camp, he's going to be a pup guy, right.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not going to rush him in, and so you

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<v Speaker 2>got to see there, and if he's not ready, then

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<v Speaker 2>Tyron's your right tackle, and you would hope. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he was okay at right tackle. But we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>it last week how the running game went downhill those

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<v Speaker 2>last four regular season games when Terrence Steele wasn't in

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<v Speaker 2>the lineup all right.

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<v Speaker 3>On defense, defensive line, how much of a need is

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<v Speaker 3>there both at interior and on the outside.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say interior. I mean, they re signed Jonathan Hankins,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's a one year deal at the veteran exception,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not like they're financially obligated to him. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you've got Osa Odiggiezua.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got two years left.

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<v Speaker 2>And after that, you know, Quinton Bohanna was just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a guy, and Neville Gallimore is entering his last

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<v Speaker 2>year under contract.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think you can also make a case at

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<v Speaker 3>defensive end as well, because DeMarcus Lawrence. He's over thirty now, right, kay,

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<v Speaker 3>and Dorrin's Armstrong's going into his contract year correct, second

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<v Speaker 3>year of a two year deal for him.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam Williams is going into his second year, and they

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<v Speaker 3>expect Sam Williams to make the progress from year one

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<v Speaker 3>to year two to get more snaps. I would imagine

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<v Speaker 3>this year Dante Fowler is on a one year, three

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<v Speaker 3>million dollar deal exactly and in fact, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>much guaranteed money there either.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, they move Chauncey Go from n

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<v Speaker 2>to tackle, so there's another spot that's kind of on

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<v Speaker 2>the edge defensive end, so an edge rusher, and Canley

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<v Speaker 2>is another one signed late in the year and they've

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<v Speaker 2>signed another one year year.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. There is definitely an opening at the end,

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<v Speaker 3>uh everywhere on the defensive line. Linebacker obviously they re

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<v Speaker 3>sign Lton vander Ash. I don't even count Micah because

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<v Speaker 3>Micah is both a linebacker and an edge Rusher's in

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<v Speaker 3>both categories there. Anthony Barr is out there in free agency,

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<v Speaker 3>and uh Luke Gifford signed with Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 2>So you got Damon Clark and what so linebacker. I

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<v Speaker 2>think everybody's kind of ignored that position. But if there's

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<v Speaker 2>a standout guy at twenty six and he's better than

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<v Speaker 2>these other positions, why not.

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<v Speaker 3>And especially a guy who can be on the field

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<v Speaker 3>in the Nickel package too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because who knows about Jabril Cox. We just don't

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<v Speaker 2>have any idea at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, A big move in the off season is

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<v Speaker 3>getting Stephan Gilmour at the cornerback spot opposite Trayvon Diggs.

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<v Speaker 3>But the inventory at cornerback and where the contract status

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<v Speaker 3>of those players.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've got Diggs contract year, contract year. They obviously

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen pointed out that they want to re sign him

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<v Speaker 2>and if they can't, they could franchise him if they

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<v Speaker 2>need to hold his deal. Gilmore is on a one

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<v Speaker 2>year deal and he's thirty three years old, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Jordan Lewis coming back off his list Frank Surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he contract year, contract year, and then Doroan

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<v Speaker 2>Bland they can sync their teeth into him. Who knows

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<v Speaker 2>what happened with Calvin Joseph right now.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a special teamer.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and Nashan Wright is not to be trusted yet It.

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<v Speaker 3>Looks strong at safety, Yes, However, you've got two of

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<v Speaker 3>the primary players in their contract year in jay Ron

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<v Speaker 3>Curse and Malie Cooker. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And so the draft when you have when you

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<v Speaker 2>have salary cap, I'm not going to say problems, but

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to manage it. The way to manage it

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<v Speaker 2>is to draft well and have young guys moving up

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<v Speaker 2>into those positions so you don't have to pay a

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<v Speaker 2>guy a second or by the way, third contract, which

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<v Speaker 2>is going to cost you some money. So yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at some point, I don't know that it's the first round.

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<v Speaker 2>They haven't had a history of taking safeties in the

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<v Speaker 2>first round. The last one would have been what Roy

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<v Speaker 2>Williams right of note.

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<v Speaker 3>So, but you've got five dbs that are in their

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<v Speaker 3>contract year, Yes, five basically starting dbs and Diggs, Gilmore

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<v Speaker 3>Lewis as the nickel at a slot corner, and then

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<v Speaker 3>Curse and Hooker. I look at all three of the

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<v Speaker 3>safeties as being starters.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the other thing you have to consider

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<v Speaker 2>is the position priority. When they look at the draft,

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<v Speaker 2>they stack the positions like, Okay, this is valuable, this

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<v Speaker 2>is next valuable, like that. They have never put a

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<v Speaker 2>high priority on a defensive tackle in the first round

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<v Speaker 2>Russell Maryland, right, and then I think it was Danny Noonan.

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<v Speaker 3>The high priorities. You look at it, it goes from

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<v Speaker 3>outside to end. Right, outside players are higher priority than

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<v Speaker 3>inside players.

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<v Speaker 2>Except except in the secondary cornerback over safety, right, they're

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<v Speaker 2>way outside.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well no, i'd look at yeah you went to

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<v Speaker 3>the field, yeah, yeah, and sci corners are more valuable seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So defensive ends, you know, deep cornerbacks, then linebacker,

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<v Speaker 2>then defensive tackle, then safety. That's kind of the way

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<v Speaker 2>they their history of it. Same thing on offense. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know everybody wants to talk about the running back

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<v Speaker 2>positions devalued. Well, if you get a good one, and

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<v Speaker 2>especially at twenty six, and you can sink your teeth

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<v Speaker 2>into this guy for four years at a very inexpensive price,

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<v Speaker 2>now right, you're not paying. I think I saw where

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<v Speaker 2>the gonna the twenty six pick will average three point

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<v Speaker 2>seven million a year. So what, right, it's almost like

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<v Speaker 2>a second round pick. Uh. If it's a running back

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<v Speaker 2>and it's the best one, absolutely right, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>know we're gonna just push quarterback to the side, then

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<v Speaker 2>wide receiver, and then it would be probably a left tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>When I started reading the stuff about tackles. I saw

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of them were, yeah, they're starting right tackles. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm taking a tackle in the first round and

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<v Speaker 2>I already got one in the first round at left tackle,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not drafting a right tackle. Sometimes you gotta just

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<v Speaker 2>develop guys and fit them in right and that's I

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<v Speaker 2>guarantee you that's the way they assess it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we're just getting started on mixed shots.

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<v Speaker 3>fifty and then it is the pre draft press conference

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it got it got out there though. That

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<v Speaker 2>was at Everson's pace. Uh, the second one we wouldn't

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:14.199
<v Speaker 2>be able to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>But what's the second one?

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Reliant home run derby.

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, we can do it by memory. That Michael

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Parsons had somebody go to the sporting goods store and guy,

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm a bat and he won it one.

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<v Speaker 4>Year, or at least was put on the best show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>like vander Ashmyo won it absolutely. All right, we're.

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 3>Talking draft and Jerry Jones has his pre draft press

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 3>conference coming up at the top of the hour at noon.

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 3>I assume Steven will be there too.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a fore man. I think it's a foreman.

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:51.120
<v Speaker 3>Will McClay will be there too, and Mike McCarthy. All right,

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 3>that's when we find out who the cowboys will pick

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 3>on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>They will just come right out and tell us.

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 3>Uh huh, all.

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Right, all right, so my questions just letting y'all known.

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Ada chair, there's a fifth chair?

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<v Speaker 2>No, because if you look at the feed, uh huh,

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 2>there's only three chairs right now, so they.

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<v Speaker 4>Need oh, there's only three chairs there.

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Well maybe Mike McCarthy said yeah, And I'm sure Will McClay.

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, he's working on Colin plays. He can't write, he

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 3>can't do the office. That's right, right, So let's see

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 3>who's all up there. Okay, there three chairs behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, to be determined. So let's open up that

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 2>big green notebook.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, what what would you like to know twenty six

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 3>at twenty six?

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<v Speaker 2>Give me three possibilities?

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 3>Three possibilities at twenty six?

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:45.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how about realistically they would be there and you

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:47.400
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't mind drafting them.

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I've only got one possibility.

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's not either're.

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 4>Going to draft.

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if Bjeon was there, I think would take them.

0:27:58.080 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 4>I think so oyes, I.

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Think so answers of that happening.

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so very Yeah, I don't think so.

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 4>Let's do it by position. So would you?

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 2>And they've only done it, like what a couple of

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 2>times in their history, taking a tight end in the

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 2>first round.

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 3>There's one tight end that I like that I would

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 3>take in the first round. But I don't think they're

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 3>thinking this way.

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:27.639
<v Speaker 2>Darnell Washington.

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:31.880
<v Speaker 4>That's Darnell Washington from Georgia. But I ideally see you don't.

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 3>The trick on it is you don't know how other

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 3>teams evaluate these players, right, and the if you look

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 3>at all the mock drafts out there, all the so

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 3>called draft experts, they've got him ranked as a thirty

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 3>eight to fortieth best player, which would mean no, you

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 3>don't take him in the first round. But we don't

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 3>know that. You know, that's what the as parcels would

0:28:54.640 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 3>put it. That cottage industry. The draft experts are saying,

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 3>this guy's talent, I think, and his potential is tremendous

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 3>I think for the NFL and by the way, for

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 3>this team in his rookie season, the way he can.

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Block, So it's almost to me at twenty six worth

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 2>taking a chance. On the upside, You've got Jake Ferguson,

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I think, who can be relied on to be.

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, let's look at it this way, all right, this

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 3>is a great year for tight ends, and there are

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 3>at least three tight ends. There two tight ends that

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 3>are talked about by many being first round picks, and

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 3>I will put Darnelle Washington in that mix too, But

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 3>Michael Mayer from Notre Dame and Dalton kin Kaid right

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 3>from Utah are two tight ends that have been talked

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 3>about as late first round selections. And all three of

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 3>these guys might still be on the board for the

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 3>Cowboys if they were interested in taking a tight end

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 3>in the first round. So to your point, what I

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 3>think the Cowboys did a great job last year in

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 3>acquiring in the fourth round Jake Ferguson and as a

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 3>college free agent Peyton Hendershot. Okay, right, so now you're

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 3>looking that you've lost Dalton Schultz. Now you're looking for

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 3>a tight end to take that other spot, who I

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 3>think can basically be a starter in your twelve personnel.

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 3>It might be your starter in eleven personnel too, depending

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 3>on how quickly a rookie develops. But I like where

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 3>Jake Ferguson is coming off. I think he had a

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 3>really good rookie season and there's no reason to think

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 3>he's going to take a step back. I think he's

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 3>going to keep growing from there. So I'm looking for

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 3>a tight end to pair with those other two. And

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 3>then you throw in Sean McEwan in the mix too

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 3>as the fourth tight end.

0:30:57.320 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 2>So in this analysis of him, Dane Brugler, by the way,

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 2>he is a one on one talent with fascinating pro

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 2>potential because of his rare length, play strength, and body

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 2>flexibility at his size, which is six five two sixty four.

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 3>It's a six six and five eight inches tall sixty

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 3>six and five eighths two sixty four, and he was

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 3>two seventy two at his Pro.

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Day and if you believe the pro day size, he's

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 2>sixty seven.

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 3>Six seven and a half.

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 10>So I don't know if I guess he has zru

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 10>a little bit right, he had his boots on this, Yeah,

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 10>but it just seems like if this guy can block

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 10>the way week we've seen.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, all right, let's just compare, Okay, Dalton Kinkaid Utah

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 3>wide receiver. We don't have any measurables on him because

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 3>of an injury. Uh, and so we don't have his

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:58.479
<v Speaker 3>forty time, we don't have any of that. We do

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 3>know he is a really good receiving tight end and

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 3>I think he is terrific after the catch too, his

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 3>run after catch. So I don't have any questions about

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 3>him as a receiving tight end. And he's fine as

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 3>a blocker. But even going into the last season for Utah,

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 3>their number one tight end got hurt the third game

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 3>of the season and Kinkaid was the second tight end

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 3>at Utah, and then he took advantage of that and

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 3>had seventy catches for eight hundred and ninety yards and

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 3>eight touchdowns. There's no knock on him, but that's just

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 3>sort of what he is. Has received Michael Mayer is

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 3>a complete tight end quote unquote right. Okay, he's twenty

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 3>one years old. He's only three years at Notre Dame.

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 3>A starter for two and a half of those years.

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Even his freshman year he was He started four games,

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 3>played in twelve and forty two catches, had seventy one

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 3>catches his second year, sixty seven catches and nine touchdowns

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 3>his third year. The difference between Mayor and Darnel Washington.

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 3>You talk about blocking well, and Mayor is probably a

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 3>fine as a blocker, right and people have talked about

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 3>him being really good as the quote unquote best blocking

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 3>tight end. But I don't know that they're considering what

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 3>Darnell Washington is as a blocker.

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 2>And you know what, and the concaid guy, he's two

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 2>forty six, right, he's a move tight end.

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Right well, and Mayor can't wait in at two forty nine.

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 3>He looks bigger than that.

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Now, what about this guy? This one caught my eye.

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 3>Luke Muskrave, Okay, let me let me first before you

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 3>get to musk Grave. Here's Mayor thirty one and a

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 3>half inch arms, Washington thirty four and a half inch arms.

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 4>He's got an eighty.

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 3>Three and a half nearly eighty four inch wingspan. Washington

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 3>does the measurables. Mayor ran a four to seven forty

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 3>with a thirty two and a half vertical and nine

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 3>to ten broad jump four four four shuttle and a

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 3>seven to two six three cone. Just to give it comparison,

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Hindershot had a six ninety one three cone, and keep

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 3>in mind Mayor of seven to twenty six and he

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 3>had a Hendershot was four to twenty five on his shuttle,

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 3>while Ferguson was a seven to three cone drill. I

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 3>mean Ferguson ran a four to eight though right so

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 3>Darnelle Washington had a four to oh eight shuttle time

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 3>the five to ten to five shuttle. I mean that

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:42.399
<v Speaker 3>at that kind of size, I mean, now here there's

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:43.320
<v Speaker 3>some athleticism.

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Here might be the difference maker, and none of these

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 2>things usually have that in there. When they asked on

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 2>Friday Dak Prescott about what he likes in a tight end,

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 2>he said, first and foremost, he has to be smart.

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 2>He almost has to be smart as a orderback uh

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:05.360
<v Speaker 2>to be productive in our offense at tight end.

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 3>Funny you mentioned that as on my drive in I

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 3>was thinking about the tight ends, and it seems like

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 3>across the board, all these tight ends seem to be

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:15.240
<v Speaker 3>really sharp.

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:16.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's what you mean.

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 3>And so it goes back to college where guys become

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 3>tight ends and they had in order to be a

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 3>success even at college as a tight end. And it's

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 3>interesting also to see how the tight end has come

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:33.399
<v Speaker 3>back into the college game. There was a time eight

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:35.919
<v Speaker 3>to ten years ago that you couldn't find any tight

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 3>ends because they were all either moving to the defensive

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 3>side of the ball or whatever. Yeah, all right, Uh

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 3>so they've used they're using the tight end more in

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 3>the college game.

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 4>To that end.

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 3>Listen to Luke Musgrave talk and you think you're you're

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 3>listening to Darryl Johnston. I mean, you talk about a

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 3>sharp mind. Musgrave who is the nephew of Bill Musgrave,

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:01.359
<v Speaker 3>who was a Cowboys four round draft pick thirty years

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 3>ago and has been a long time offensive coordinator both

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 3>in the NFL and in college. He's an intriguing prospect.

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 3>He only played two games, had a knee injury his

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 3>last year at Oregon State. But here's another guy with

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.879
<v Speaker 3>some length at six five and seven eight inch tall

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 3>and two hundred and fifty one pounds, ran a four

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 3>to six, and he is athletic with a thirty six

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 3>vertical and a ten to five broad jump.

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 2>I like this fact about him. He started skiing at

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 2>age five, so he's an.

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 4>Athlete accomplished skier.

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, Well it helps when your mother was on

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.720
<v Speaker 2>the US developmental ski team in nineteen eighties.

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:44.479
<v Speaker 3>Right, So, But anyway, but then there are other tight

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:48.280
<v Speaker 3>ends like Tucker Kraft from South Dakota State, which produced

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 3>Dallas Goddard. Here's another. He's sixty five, two hundred and

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:58.760
<v Speaker 3>fifty four pounds. He had sixty five catches in fifteen

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:00.719
<v Speaker 3>games played for South Dakota State.

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 4>His junior year. There was an All American.

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 3>There's a There's a whole bunch of tight ends that

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 3>are intriguing. But I like Darnel Washington the best out

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 3>of him, and a lot of it is because of

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:13.800
<v Speaker 3>his upside.

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 2>And so if he develops in a year or so

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 2>and he's that all purpose tight end, but he can

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 2>come in and be a blocker in your two tight

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 2>end sets and you've got hinder shot to stretch the field.

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:33.879
<v Speaker 2>I think it's as a threesome that's pretty strong, right,

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:37.239
<v Speaker 2>but I don't. I don't need another guy that's just

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:38.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna catch a bunch of passes.

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 3>Right, there's not And with Mayor, there doesn't appear to

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 3>be a lot of run after catch ability there right

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 3>as there would be like a Dalton Kincaid and Darnell

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Washington for that matter.

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 2>And let me point this out about when people say

0:37:54.280 --> 0:38:01.359
<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys lost Dalton Schultz in free agency, either they

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 2>chose chose to lose him or he chose to not

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 2>take a pay cut here with the Cowboys because he

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 2>didn't get paid what he thought he was worth going

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 2>to the Texans. And I think he might have over

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 2>stated his value to the Cowboys and they were like, no,

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:21.319
<v Speaker 2>that's too much.

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Probably fell victim to this strong draft class as well.

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 3>And Mike Kasicki the same thing happened to him, right

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 3>when you look at the lay of the land this offseason.

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Because when I see a guy leave and all he

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 2>signs is a one year deal, you didn't lose him.

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, you chose either not to pay him what

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:43.720
<v Speaker 2>he was asking for or he chose to go somewhere else.

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeap other positions that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>We mentioned it wide receivers. I like Zay Flowers a

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<v Speaker 3>lot from Boston College. Of course, I love Jackson Smith

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<v Speaker 3>and Jig, but I don't think he's going to.

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<v Speaker 2>guy from.

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<v Speaker 3>TCU, Quentin Johnston. He I like him, he and just

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<v Speaker 3>like the size. Yeah, he's a nearly six three, two

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:16.959
<v Speaker 3>hundred and eight pounds with a forty and a half

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<v Speaker 3>vertical and eleven two broad jump, sixty catches his last

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<v Speaker 3>year at TCU for over one thousand yards six touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh and at his size he is. He's a guy

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<v Speaker 3>that stretches the field too.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got a few more minutes here, but I mentioned

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Zay Flowers as a potential first rounder. I really like

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 3>him out of Boston College. You don't like this part

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 3>about him? Five Mickey does it like short players.

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Because he's he's probably an outside guy, I mean slot guy,

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 2>but doesn't Brandon Cooks can do both right, he can

0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:57.959
<v Speaker 2>play outside. And although it's not all about this year,

0:42:58.120 --> 0:42:58.800
<v Speaker 2>as we.

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<v Speaker 4>How many brothers and say, does Michael Irvin.

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Have I think it was like sixteen or seventeen.

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 3>O Kayse Flowers has thirteen. So that's one of the

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 3>reasons I like him. Michael turned out pretty well as

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<v Speaker 3>a first round pick.

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Because you've got to be good to feed the rest.

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:17.239
<v Speaker 3>Of that family. There are several mid round wide receivers

0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:23.399
<v Speaker 3>I like, including Jayden Reid from Michigan State, who would

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 3>be like a at number ninety. Third round, you got

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:29.879
<v Speaker 3>Marvin Mimes from Oklahomas who is He would be more

0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 3>in the range of the second round pick at fifty

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 3>eight probably and he could fall the into the third round.

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 3>And after that, there's a guy from Stanford, Michael Wilson

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:40.799
<v Speaker 3>who is.

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I saw him that interested me.

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 4>Michael Wilson.

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 3>He was he was the best receiver at the Senior Bowl.

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 3>He had injury issues at Stanford, but you talk about

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:58.320
<v Speaker 3>a guy. He's got not only his undergraduate degree at Stanford,

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:03.279
<v Speaker 3>also his Masters in communit vaccasions. He reminds me, you

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 3>know who, he reminds me of, Miles Austin. He In fact,

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:10.399
<v Speaker 3>I did a comparison him and Miles when he came

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:14.840
<v Speaker 3>out six two hundred and fifteen pounds, Michael Wilson is

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 3>six to two hundred thirteen pounds. Miles ran a four

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 3>to five to one. Michael Wilson ran a four to five.

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:23.879
<v Speaker 3>Miles had twenty one bench reps. Michael Wilson twenty three

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.359
<v Speaker 3>bench reps. Miles had a forty inch vertical. This guy

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 3>had a thirty eight inch vertical. Broad jump ten three

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:33.320
<v Speaker 3>for Austin, ten five for Wilson. It's almost identical across

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:37.879
<v Speaker 3>the board. I really like this Michael Wilson. Again, the

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 3>only knock on him was the injuries that he suffered

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 3>in college. He played six games as last year at Stanford,

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:49.640
<v Speaker 3>and anyway, he is the right kind of guy that

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 3>you're looking for to add to your football team, and

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:53.000
<v Speaker 3>he has a lot of athleticism.

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:55.360
<v Speaker 2>So if you take a wide receiver, you have to

0:44:55.560 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 2>judge that guy being better than Jalen Tolbert and Simmi Fijoko.

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Same thing with a running back mid rounds, they better

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:08.440
<v Speaker 2>be better than the leak Davis or ric o'dowdell.

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:10.239
<v Speaker 3>But Michael Wilson is a guy. If he's there in

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 3>the fourth round, I'm really considering him, And due to

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:15.440
<v Speaker 3>his injuries, he may still be there.

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:15.839
<v Speaker 4>In the fifth rod.

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:18.879
<v Speaker 2>So when Cedric Wilson gets cut by the Dolphins, would

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 2>you be interested in bringing him back?

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 3>What's the salary if they cut him?

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Is no salary?

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:28.640
<v Speaker 3>I tried, and so you're talking about basically the veteran minimum.

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:32.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's got to read because they, you know, basically

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 2>signed him to a big deal and now they're sitting

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 2>there and brought in all these wide receivers and he

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 2>ended up being fourth on a big contract.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I got to talk you to yes, Yes, Chris Bey.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing I don't like about Wilson he has

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 2>more drops in his college career than he does touchdown passes.

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, and you didn't like that about the Green Bay

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 3>guy from North Dakota State last year too?

0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:59.279
<v Speaker 2>What about the offensive guard from North Dakota State with

0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 2>all the PARTI got more hair than teeth?

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how many touchdown catches did that North Dakota State

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 3>receiver have against the Cowboys. I think that was the

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:13.800
<v Speaker 3>one that had all the drops in a career game. Yeah,

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 3>all right, defense, here go ahead.

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:19.400
<v Speaker 4>Here's my guy in the second round. Getting started on

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:19.839
<v Speaker 4>this guy?

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:28.360
<v Speaker 3>Which guy Wilson? Oh Zach Harrison, Ohio State fast rusher

0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 3>on the edge. He was the number one recruit in

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:33.960
<v Speaker 3>the nation coming out of high school, and Ohio State

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:35.319
<v Speaker 3>fans say, oh I didn't live up.

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 2>To Is that the guy I saw on the Blitz

0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 2>last night?

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:37.920
<v Speaker 6>Yes?

0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I love him. He is.

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 4>Get this.

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:45.320
<v Speaker 3>He is six five and a half two hundred and

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 3>sixty nine pounds, thirty six and a quarter inch arms

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 3>and an eighty five and a half inch wingspan with

0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 3>ten inch hands. He is only twenty one years old,

0:46:57.320 --> 0:47:01.920
<v Speaker 3>turns twenty two in August. For the now, the knock

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 3>on him is he didn't have the sack production, but

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 3>in four years at Ohio State had thirteen sacks, He

0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 3>had five force fumbles and eleven passes defens Okay, let

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:16.759
<v Speaker 3>me compare him with Tyree Wilson, who might be the

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 3>second pick in the draft of the Houston Texans at

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:22.440
<v Speaker 3>six five and a half two hundred and seventy one pounds.

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 3>His arm's on just a slightly shorter at thirty five

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:30.080
<v Speaker 3>and five eights eighty four and a half inch wingspan

0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:32.840
<v Speaker 3>very similar. He started his career at Texas A and

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:35.880
<v Speaker 3>m couldn't get on the field there, transfers to Texas

0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:41.320
<v Speaker 3>Tech and has now become the talk of the draft

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:43.920
<v Speaker 3>that he's going to. And he had seven sacks for

0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Texas Tech last year. But when I look at these

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 3>two players, and he's coming off foot surgery where he

0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:52.359
<v Speaker 3>had a screw inserted in his foot, which has not

0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:55.759
<v Speaker 3>hurt his draft stock at all apparently. But I look

0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 3>at these two players and I can't tell the difference.

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:01.359
<v Speaker 3>And Zach Harrison's being talked about as a third round

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:04.560
<v Speaker 3>pick and Tyree Wilson is being talked about as the

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 3>second or third pick in the draft.

0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:10.399
<v Speaker 2>You got a crazy quarterback you like, and by the way,

0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Zach Harrison.

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:14.160
<v Speaker 3>Zach Harrison also when he was in high school, he

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:16.680
<v Speaker 3>ran a four four seven forty. Now that was when

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:18.959
<v Speaker 3>he was a six five, two hundred and thirty five

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:22.960
<v Speaker 3>pound wide receiver, and he ran a ten seven hundred

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:28.840
<v Speaker 3>meters and a twenty one to five to two hundred meters. Okay,

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:30.680
<v Speaker 3>do you have any's strong as an ox?

0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you have Caleb Murphy on your list? Caleb Murphy,

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:36.400
<v Speaker 2>he was the winner.

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Of the.

0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Of the Cliff Harris Small College Award Defensive Player of

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 2>the Year from Farris State.

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:47.360
<v Speaker 4>Farris State.

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 2>I think in two years he had thirty some sacks.

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I still have work to do before a draft day.

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:58.799
<v Speaker 2>Check out Caleb Murphy. Actually, he's listed in this thing

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:00.719
<v Speaker 2>as a six or seven round pick.

0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:03.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't have all year to fill up my notebook.

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:06.560
<v Speaker 3>I got like a month. Well, but he was Cliff

0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 3>Harris's guy, cramming for this test and I haven't. And

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:12.279
<v Speaker 3>now I'm not acing the test because you gave me

0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Cliff Harris, the Cliff Harris Award winner.

0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Did you meet him, Yes, I did. As a matter

0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 2>of fact, he had forty one sacks in his call

0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:23.480
<v Speaker 2>his career, twenty five last year. Twenty five sacks last year, right,

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 2>and first round? Uh no, he's said the first stick.

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 2>He's projected small college. Yeah, but he got a tour

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:37.240
<v Speaker 2>of the place. Uh huh uh. And he runs into

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:41.919
<v Speaker 2>dan Quinn. Oh you know what dan Quinn tells him? Yeah,

0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:45.359
<v Speaker 2>we just got done talking about you. Really, And then

0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 2>later on his tour he runs into Stephen Jones. Yeah,

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:51.720
<v Speaker 2>I said, this guy just had the tour of his life.

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:57.880
<v Speaker 2>But better than that, Cliff Harris had never taken a

0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:01.719
<v Speaker 2>tour of the start really. So we're walking. I caught

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:05.319
<v Speaker 2>up with him. They were walking down towards the from

0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:08.719
<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys locker room. He had no idea they had

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:12.080
<v Speaker 2>that Pro Bowl wall with his name as the top

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 2>free safety or top safety in Cowboy history because he

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 2>had the most Pro Bowl.

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:19.320
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 2>He goes, oh, look at there's my name. He had

0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:24.800
<v Speaker 2>never been.

0:50:24.680 --> 0:50:25.879
<v Speaker 4>Through the wow wow.

0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, little site.

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:30.719
<v Speaker 3>So Kayla Murphy, who a sixty three and sixty three

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:34.640
<v Speaker 3>pounder transferred from Grand Valley State to Farris.

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:35.719
<v Speaker 2>State Division two.

0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:40.480
<v Speaker 3>By the way, Okay, I'll take Zach Harrison in the second.

0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, I didn't mean for him in the

0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 2>second round.

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:47.759
<v Speaker 3>Also, I Drew Sanders, linebacker from Arkansas. Yes, he could

0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:51.280
<v Speaker 3>be in the mix first round. I like Trenton Simpson

0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:53.279
<v Speaker 3>from Clemson as well.

0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:54.280
<v Speaker 2>You got a cornerback.

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 4>There are there are.

0:50:56.120 --> 0:51:01.319
<v Speaker 3>Cornerbacks that that, but I don't I don't think the

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 3>top ones are going to be on the board for

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<v Speaker 3>the Cowboys at twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>So they'll be at the mercy of somebody falling into

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<v Speaker 2>their lap. Otherwise they're taking what they determine. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>a player with a first round grade, but like a

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<v Speaker 2>first a player that you probably a second round grade

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<v Speaker 2>that you wouldn't mind taking in the first round at

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a safety this morning that I finally was

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<v Speaker 3>able to take a look at from Boise State that

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<v Speaker 3>I really like JL Skinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, third round now he may yeah, got you hitter,

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<v Speaker 2>got you down? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Are JL Skinner? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Now he didn't test.

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<v Speaker 3>He had a torn peck in training for the Combine,

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<v Speaker 3>so he had pectoral surgery. So but he'll be ready

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<v Speaker 3>for training camp.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we should be ready for the draft press

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<v Speaker 2>conference when they're going to tell us who they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to draft.

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<v Speaker 3>And it will be you know, it will begin precisely

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<v Speaker 3>at high noon too here, Yeah, okay, exactly, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>and wow, we well will convene in the meantime. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll get a chance on throughout the draft weekend. But

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<v Speaker 3>next Monday morning at eleven am, we will wrap it

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<v Speaker 3>all up and tell you who all those college free agents.

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<v Speaker 3>Are the Cowboys signed? See you next week.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm mixed shots, Go Cowboys.

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