1 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Personally. 2 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: Kara Clark joins me this week. You may remember her 3 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: from an episode several weeks back when we were just 4 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: talking all things health and wellness, but since that episode, 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: she's been helping me through a lot of my own 6 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: health journey. So Kara, welcome back to the podcast. 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: It's so fun to be back because I feel like 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: we can get more specific. 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: Now, oh so specific, because now you have a full 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: on patient in your myths that has done a lot 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: of the things that you've suggested and told me to do. 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: So we're just gonna dive right into all this, but 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: go ahead and. 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 2: Give them a brief background, just to reset in case 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: nobody heard that last episode, and I. 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: Did hear from a lot of your fans and wanting 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: similar things to what we've done for you. And I 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: think the biggest premise is like we still always have 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: to have the foundation. We still always have to have 20 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: the baseline, which can be pretty much across the board, 21 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: but then it gets pretty bioindividualized, Like the plan you 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: have is not a plan I've ever given to anyone else, 23 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But the baseline and the 24 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 1: foundations is pretty simple. It's eating for a stable blood sugar. 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: For most people that looks pretty similar. It's eating within 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: the hour of waking up every three to four hours 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: after that, always combining your macro nutrients, eating five different 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: colors a day, so getting that variety of phytonutrients, drinking 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: the right amount of water, which was which I'm steasy 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: for you. I'm still learning on that one movement which 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: we actually had to go backwards in order in order 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: to go forward with you. So movement, how it feels good, 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: What feels good to your body. That's not the same 34 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: as everybody around you. And I think a lot of 35 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: times we compare ourselves to people at our stage of 36 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: life or whatever, and we want to do what they do. 37 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: But a lot of times, in order to move forward, 38 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: we have to take a big step back. So that 39 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: going back on what I always teach is stabilizing your 40 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: blood sugar through food, regulating your nervous system, which we 41 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: did with you right from the get go. Hey, movement, 42 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: like I said, and dialing in sleep and then just 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: deloading the body. 44 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: When we did so much, it was crazy because I 45 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: was sharing it online really as a more informative of Hey, 46 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: there's a lot of things you can do to help yourself. 47 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: But it was an interesting place to be in because 48 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: a lot of people are like, I want to do 49 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: everything you're doing, but I always had to do it 50 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: with the stipulation of just an FYI, this was my 51 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: specific body experience. We did things specifically for what I 52 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 2: was going through, what my blood work looked like, what 53 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: my symptoms were, and that's going to be so different 54 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: for everybody. Yeah, and that's such a I want to 55 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 2: put that asterisk even on this episode is these things 56 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: are going to be tools to help you with different things. 57 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 2: But what we're talking about specifically are things that worked 58 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 2: for me, and Careen will be able to share things 59 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 2: that work for other people. Yes, But that's such a 60 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: big part to this is I know, in a lot 61 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: of traditional medicine, we've learned to believe that there's one 62 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: size fits all in a lot of ways and a 63 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 2: lot of medicines, But when it comes to really focusing 64 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: on healing your body, that's not quite how it works exactly. 65 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: Because to your point, a symptom across the board that 66 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: many people might have, So for instance, I'll share one 67 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: that you have talked a lot about in just a 68 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: second is going to be treated differently for each person 69 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: because there's different causes of that symptoms. So we're looking 70 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: at head to toe, also discussing symptoms, how long they've 71 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: been going on, that sort of thing. But the one 72 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: I was laughing about yesterday because it always just makes 73 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: me think of you, was how you haven't really smelled 74 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: for five years? And somebody said this that my bible. 75 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: I'll say yesterday, I haven't smelled like I know people, 76 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: or I haven't smelled or tasted for three years, and 77 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, who lives like that? Why don't you figure out? 78 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: So my mindset is I don't like to live with 79 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: very many frustrations health issues, but I know what happens 80 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: is people start to normalize those, so like we get 81 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: these symptoms and we think this is just who I am, 82 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: This is like a part of me, this is ingrained 83 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: in me, whatever, and then we just deal with it. 84 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: But I was laughing so hard because I'm like, who 85 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: would just deal with that? 86 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: And you were thinking about that. 87 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: One of the questions I asked Morgan every single week 88 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: this is fun for you guys to know, is how 89 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: would you rate your smell? What's the percentage? 90 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's funny because we still haven't quite gone there. 91 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: We still have a ways to go. There's still part 92 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: of my healing journey that we found how to pause 93 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: because my life always gets very chaotic round all days, 94 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: which I definitely want you to talk about, because the 95 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: smell has been such a big portion. It was a 96 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 2: big reason of why I even went to care in 97 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: the first place. Was I knew in my heart that 98 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: smell wasn't the only thing being impacted. It was like, 99 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: there's other stuff going on in my body and I 100 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: know it's all connected. I just don't know how to 101 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: fix it. 102 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that. 103 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: Was really what led me to you. 104 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: You came on the podcast, and so much of what 105 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 2: I love about you is finding a way to integrate 106 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: into your day to day life because it's really hard 107 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: if we go into things like this with this mindset 108 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 2: of all or nothing. You try to because that's the 109 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: hope eventually, but with this all or nothing mindset, I 110 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: think it deters a lot of people from trying it. 111 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: And it's even something I had to say to you 112 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: a couple times, was like, this isn't a setback, this 113 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: is life, yeap. So like we deal with the cards 114 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: that were given and most of them are good. So 115 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: especially during the holidays, the experiences are fine. You're with 116 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: people you love, you feel safe with these people, like 117 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: savor that and then let your body be your guide 118 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: on food. I think you'll probably share that you even 119 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 1: learned your lesson a little bit on your friends giving. 120 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: All right, yeah, I said, enjoy yourself, have fun, don't 121 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: worry about it. This is none of this is going 122 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: to be a true setback. It's just learning how to 123 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: live life this way. But you said you didn't feel 124 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: very good. 125 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, see, we have so many different parts of 126 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: this to talk about, but let's start from like very beginning. 127 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 2: The reason I went to Kara in the first place 128 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: was I had long COVID and I knew it was 129 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: impacting my body. My symptoms ranged from not having my smell, 130 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: I had fatigue, I had brain fog, I couldn't really 131 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 2: remember things super well, dizziness. I feel very confident that 132 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: vertigo played a significant role in that. And there was 133 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 2: just a lot of things all leading up to me 134 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: just feeling truly like crap. On top of that, like 135 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: beyond long COVID being the thing, I had gained anywhere 136 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: from five to fifteen pounds that I, for the life 137 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: of me, could not get off of my body no 138 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: matter how much I thought. 139 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: It worked out really hard. 140 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I worked out hard, way harder, and I was 141 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: very disciplined and what I thought I was eating and 142 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 2: I thought I was doing all of the right things. 143 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 2: And so going to Kara that was really like a 144 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: back of mine, like maybe this will also help along 145 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: the lines of there, and just everything changed, truly, my 146 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: entire mindset of everything changed. 147 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: So that was the reason I went to Kara. 148 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you were so compliant that it was a 149 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: little bit of an all or nothing for a window, 150 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: and I think that is a huge factor. So I 151 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: personally won't even work with somebody that doesn't have your 152 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: level of compliance because it can be so frustrating and 153 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: then they want to blame me for their lack of compliance. 154 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: But I think you knew like you were going to 155 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: give it your all for eight weeks, and I think 156 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: it was helpful to set that timeline, like we had 157 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: that much time between summer and holidays, which is a 158 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: huge time for people to take advantage of their health, 159 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: and you were all. You were all, and plus the 160 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: biggest factor we had to take into consideration with you 161 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: for resetting hard resetting with food was that you're pretty 162 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: much vegetarian, and so that was one of the things 163 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: I was a little bit nervous about. If I'm being 164 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: really honest, and I shared that with you. I don't 165 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: even know how to not share the whole truth. 166 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you should go ahead and shair. 167 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: So it was more like, hey, what are you comfortable 168 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: with Because you eat eggs, you eat cheese, I know 169 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: you're comfortable with some non vegetarian or non vegan foods, 170 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: I should say. And you don't have a vegan approach either, 171 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: which was also really helpful that you weren't eating like 172 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: fake meat and like tofu and stuff like that. And 173 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm not completely anticy, but it's not really helpful in 174 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: how we wanted to move you forward. So I was like, Okay, 175 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: I would love to do this hard reset like autoimmune 176 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: protocol with you, but it's not possible. We like work 177 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: to every which way because we need nuts, we need seeds, 178 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: we especially need legoomes. We did take a break from 179 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: eggs mostly because you got sick of them. Yeah, because 180 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: that was kind of helpful. 181 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: I think we even talked about last time on the 182 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: podcast because I have such a weird relationship with eggs. 183 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: Sometimes I really like them and sometimes I want to throw. 184 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: Up eating them. It's oh, you didn't have your cottage cheese, 185 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: so we did. We tapered back dairy, which can be inflammatory, 186 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: but the bigger key with dairy is to take breaks 187 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: from it because it is a great protein. As that 188 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: really satisfies you. Adding it back in was no problem. 189 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I've learned even just adding things in, 190 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: and we'll get to that in depth. Is that it 191 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: over If I did too much, I felt my body reacting. Huh. 192 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: If I was really intentional about it, I only had 193 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: a couple of bites, or I didn't fully splurge, my 194 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: body didn't react quite as much. 195 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: It would definitely completely reliant. 196 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: Yes, it was like I had to very much understand 197 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: what my body was signaling me when I was introducing 198 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: those and how far could I take it? 199 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: Yes, And then I pushed you, how far could I 200 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: take you? Even as far as going to what's your 201 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: blood type? Let's figure out if this is a long 202 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: term thing that you can be healthy with. And we 203 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: evaluated that and it was just amazing how open you 204 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: were to various protein powders, adding in different protein options, 205 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: and even bone broth. 206 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, bone broth is about the only way I think 207 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: I will ever be able to incorporate something that isn't 208 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: vegetarian vegan, because there's just in my head I can't like, 209 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: in my head, I'm feel this little girl eight years 210 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: old making the decision to not eat meat. And even 211 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: it's now, you know how eggs love it sometimes and 212 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: hate the other, but meat is I hate it all 213 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: the time. I want to vomit even thinking about it. 214 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: So Kara was like, Okay, maybe we can try fish, 215 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 2: and I was like, no, I will She's like salmon. 216 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: Maybe you're trying everything, and I was like, this is 217 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: not a possibility. 218 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: Even said shrimp sum. 219 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: Yeah you tried fish, because that would be an easier 220 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: transition for somebody who has been vegetarian for so long. 221 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: And I just looked at Karen and I said, I 222 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: don't know that I will ever be able to physically 223 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: consume meat. Yeah, animals like eating wise and she goes, okay, 224 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: bone broth, and I was like, if I can find 225 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: a way to sneak it in and I can like 226 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: mentally tricked myself, then I'll try it every now and again, 227 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: and it has been it's still something challenging. 228 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 3: I've tried it a few times and snuck it in foods. 229 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: Like I'll do mostly vegetable broth with a cup of 230 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 2: bone broth. Uh. But then my mind still likes tricks. 231 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: It does. 232 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: You know what you're eating. You don't like this, but 233 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: it's been an interesting challenge for me. So still very 234 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: much holding on to that vegetarian side of me ye, 235 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 2: while also allowing myself the grace to try bone broth 236 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: every now and again. 237 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And what it came down to was her blood 238 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: type isn't necessarily an ideal match for true vegan vegetarian 239 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: and I love a plant based approach. If you ever 240 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: follow hopefully some of you guys have dug into my meals, 241 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: but if you've ever followed my meals, I really do 242 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: lead with plants. I try to make the protein be 243 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: like a portion. And so when looking at Morgan's labs, 244 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: I could tell that there was some vitamins that were 245 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: off and that we can supplement potential. But then we 246 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: took a deeper look and some of the inflammatory markers 247 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: were telling me, okay, we don't use the vitamins that 248 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: well either, like you use to complicate things even worse 249 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: for me too, I'm like, I have to get real 250 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: crafty here. And then you were open to a couple 251 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: of the options. So that was really helpful. I decreasing 252 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: her stress load by giving her foods that were only nourishing. 253 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: So we gave you, like a very simple food approach, 254 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: and that works for you too, Honestly, you guys, Morgan 255 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: can eat the same thing every day. 256 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: For the most part, for at least a week. I 257 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: can eat the same thing. And then I'm like. 258 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: I know she can go without eating, which is another 259 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: huge aspect to her improvement. It's something I think I 260 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: used to shy away from talking about fastening at all 261 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: because I think it can be so harmful in the 262 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: way that people do it. And so we even bio 263 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: individualize that set up for you and structured it in 264 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: a day that was like one of the days you 265 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: were going to forget to eat anyways, and guided your 266 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: path with that. So Morgan so compliant to add in 267 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: a weekly fast and extended fast weekly and it was 268 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: anywhere between twenty four and thirty six hours. I think 269 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: it got more thirty six ish as you went on right. 270 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, the longest I ever went was forty one hours, 271 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: and I thought I was going to eat off my 272 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: hand at that. That was where I caved and I 273 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: have to have food or I will be a monster. 274 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: And we were monitoring her stress signals, we were monitoring 275 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: her hydration. I was making sure she was having electrolydes 276 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: pretty much weekly. Is when I would hear from her 277 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: as well. She was fasting, which was really helpful because 278 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: it does make me a little bit nervous in her case. Again, 279 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: when we're looking at lab markers, I could see a 280 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: very high stress load, so high stress load, burned out 281 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: B vitamins not surprising. With a high stress load, the 282 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: adrenals really run through vitamins. And then a methilation issue 283 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: on top of that. So we had some markers that 284 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: point towards methilation issues potentially genetically. Okay, so I'm not 285 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: going to say for sure because we didn't do a 286 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: genetic test, but we had markers pointing towards that. And 287 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: so we had, like I said, we had to get 288 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: a little bit creative, and I kept encouraging her, Hey, 289 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: let's make sure we are working with the system, not 290 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: for or against it. We didn't want to have all 291 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: this stuff. She was so used to taking so many things, 292 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: and even though I still probably kept you on a 293 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: good amount of things, it was not working for you. Yep. 294 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: It was activating your system to do the work. And 295 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: one of the things that comes to mind is the 296 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: adrenal cocktail that we had you having every morning. 297 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I haven't told you this was a 298 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: controversial post. Oh really Yeah, so I had somebody research 299 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: seen that and yell at me for saying that this 300 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: helps adrenals. 301 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: Oh, and I said, you know what, I'm gonna have Kara. 302 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: Talk about this because where I think the controversy lies 303 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: is that you have a lot of people stuck in 304 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: the traditional medicine mindset where there's only one way to 305 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: do things, and I think if you have it when 306 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: this was a person who was speaking from a very 307 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: medically complex situation, and I said, yeah, you're an individual, 308 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: you're probably not going to work with this particular thing. 309 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: But somebody like me who has different things happening, this 310 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: is going to help me. So I would love for 311 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: you to speak on this and why we have integrated 312 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: this into my life still every day. 313 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I was saying, the stress patterns in her body, 314 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: where I keep saying her and Morgan, but you guys 315 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, stress patterns in your body? 316 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: Were I also, your life is unpredictable, and so we 317 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: had in order to let her body heal. Her body 318 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: was protecting itself from itself. So in order to let 319 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: her heal, we had to decrease the stress, and so 320 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: we had to let the system know it was say, 321 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: And the adrenal cocktail is designed to provide the electrolyte 322 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: minerals from natural sources. So we have salt, we have potassium, 323 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: we have chloride, and those were coming from the cream 324 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: of tartar in the salt, in the coconut water. 325 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: And the orange is just for good measure. 326 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: Orange is for good measure. It's not enough to spike 327 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: your blood sugar, but it is high enough to spike 328 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,359 Speaker 1: some people's blood sugar. So blood sugar is not Morgan's issue, 329 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: which is great. 330 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: There was something that wasn't my problem. 331 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: That's true because a lot of the times when I'm 332 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: seeing people there is metabolic dysfunction. For you, it was 333 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: more mitochondrial dysfunction. So the powerhouse of the cell was dysfunctioning, 334 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: which was making stress signals, neurotransmitters, that kind of stuff unstable. 335 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: And when that was, that was unstable. So the body 336 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: couldn't heal from the long haulers, and so we had 337 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: to bring our body into a safety net that it 338 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: could heal. So all the food that you ate, the 339 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: drinks that you drank, were all working for the greater purpose. 340 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? 341 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 2: It makes sense to it. 342 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: I can see why for a medically complex person that 343 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: may not make sense. So, like, we're not telling everybody 344 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: to do the same thing. 345 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: No, And it also wasn't We weren't posting it as 346 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: a I think there was a lot of people who 347 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 2: think if they drink that every morning it was a 348 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: magic cure, it was going to fix a lot. 349 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: That's just there's no miracle cure for any of this. 350 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: There's not one thing that's gonna do it all. 351 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: No, and this sure is this may be gonna help 352 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: with your potentially stressed levels. But I often said if 353 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: anybody reached out, was I'm also doing X, Y and Z. Yeah, 354 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: So I can't tell you that's the only thing that's 355 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 2: going to help and make it better. It could for you, 356 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: maybe that's all you have as a problem. 357 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 3: I hope it is. 358 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 2: But if you're like me and you have a multitude 359 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: of things going on, then you're gonna have to also 360 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: incorporate a bunch of other things. Yeah. 361 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: So for you, that drink was foundational, but for a 362 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: lot of people that would be supplemental. 363 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: Okay. 364 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: And the reason I say that was foundational is because 365 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: the chronic stress load on your body. And when we 366 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: went back on a timeline, it was like, Okay, since 367 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: I can remember, this was happening to my body, So 368 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't just twenty twenty when it started. It's what 369 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: amplified it. Yeah, and that's what happened. That's what I 370 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: see a lot of times. 371 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like I had long COVID just exasperated 372 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: a lot of things that weren't already happening in my body, 373 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: which is what we've also very much talked about. It 374 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: was almost like long COVID came along and just kicked 375 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: everything further along exactly kind already had these things Brewery. 376 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: It was just like shining all the flashlights on the problems. Yeah, 377 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: which is why the inflammation got to be out of control, 378 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: meaning that all the things you used to do to 379 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: manage your weight weren't working the same way. That wasn't 380 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: just an age thing. That was inflammation. At its core 381 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: is protection. And so again your body was protecting you 382 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: from you. And then foundationally, like I said, foundationally we 383 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: support with food, we supported with movement. So let's talk 384 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: about that. 385 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: Oh, movement. Yeah, so I used to be quite the 386 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: I was a boxer. I would do CrossFit, I would do. 387 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: All all the way back at gymnasts. 388 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 2: Yes, Like I was always a very active person and 389 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: I loved I even still say it to this day. 390 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: If I don't sweat, I don't feel. 391 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 3: Like I did a workout. 392 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 2: So I was always a very intense person when it 393 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: came to working out. It's what made me feel really good. 394 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: And Kara looked at me one day and said, we're 395 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 2: gonna need to tailor that for a while. 396 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: How do you feel about walking? 397 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: Let's not do that for a while. 398 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: Again, that was to help you. Your body work with you. 399 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: So when the body's in chronic stress overload, which was 400 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: the keynote for you. So when I looked at the labs, 401 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: it was like stress inflammation, inflammation, potentially genetics, but mostly not. 402 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to say lifestyle, because it's not like 403 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: you weren't already doing things healthily. You just were overdoing 404 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: them and underdoing them. She wasn't eating enough, she wasn't 405 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: drinking enough water. She was being overactive and not overactive 406 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: like were exercise consumed half her day, but she was 407 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: going too intense, and so we were monitoring your temperature, 408 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: your heart rate multiple times a day and just seeing 409 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: if what we were doing was working for the system 410 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: or working against the system. So those were stress markers 411 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: that we could collect the data on every day. Some 412 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: of those are still we still want to improve, but 413 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: they did get better. They got more consistent, they got 414 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: more predictable. The big factor was how she was feeling 415 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: after her workouts, and Morgan, she was so used to sweating, 416 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: so used to going so hard, but she also maybe 417 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: got used to not feeling good from the workouts and 418 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: just thinking that was normal. As a gymnast who was 419 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: on the floor for five hours a day or whatever, 420 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: that would feel normal. 421 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you get used to that too. 422 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: You're going to the fatigue that too. Yeah. 423 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: As an athlete, you just you really it becomes this 424 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 2: identity where you're like if I didn't push hard enough, 425 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 2: then I'm not going to feel it or I'm not 426 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 2: going to see the results. And so there would be 427 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: times leading up to this, really towards the end, right 428 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 2: before I started working with Kara, where I was doing 429 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 2: this series of workouts that was really intense and the 430 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 2: whole purpose was to keep hitting prs, yeah, get higher. 431 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 2: And there was one day where I thought I was 432 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 2: having a panic attack. My heart was like beating out 433 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 2: of my chest. You would have thought that I just 434 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: ran a marathon. And I was so confused because my 435 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: body was screaming at me like something's not running and 436 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: I was still pushing it. And that was an indicator 437 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 2: to me that something was going on because that had 438 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 2: never happened to me before. And then after that, as 439 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: I started to work with Karen, I was still lifting, 440 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 2: not quite to that extent, but I was still lifting. 441 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: I would get really lightheaded, I'd get really dizzy, and 442 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 2: She's like, Okay, I think this is just to sign 443 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: your body, like really wants you to chill out for 444 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 2: a while and just start walking and doing yoga, which 445 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 2: is all. 446 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: I did for about six weeks. 447 00:21:54,280 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, what was wild to me? And this entire experience 448 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: is a few things. One, I lost fifteen pounds when 449 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: I wasn't going. 450 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: Hard, I became eating more, Yeah, eating. 451 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 2: More food all the time. I realized how much unhealthy, 452 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: healthy stuff I was putting in my body that was 453 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: really marketed to me as healthy. I realized, what. 454 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: Are some examples of those. I feel like people are 455 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: going to want to know that. 456 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: I feel like it's the treat stuff right where it's 457 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 2: it's obviously better ingredients and the key in general that 458 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: I've noted in this whole process because I was basically 459 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: vegan and gluten free this whole process. Yeah, so, because 460 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 2: since I wasn't eating meat, it basically just turned into 461 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: vegan besides adding bone broth whenever I could. 462 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 3: Stomach it, and it was very much. 463 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 2: I would go to places and I'd get really excited 464 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: about seeing an alternative with really healthy ingredients of something, 465 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: say it's tortillas or crackers, and I still will consume them. 466 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: It's just now understand how that's playing a role in 467 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 2: my entire makeup. If I'm eating chips and I'm snacking, 468 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: my body's probably not gonna like that because I didn't 469 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 2: give it any actual nutritions. If I did eat some 470 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 2: chips after a really great meal, then my body's probably 471 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: gonna respond better. Yeah, it was a lot of that. 472 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, now I'm. 473 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 2: Learning the ingredients I should and shouldn't be consuming. I 474 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: should really be eating constantly whole foods. And you always 475 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: made a point to me and said, because you have 476 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 2: such a low protein diet by choice, you're gonna have 477 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: to forcibly consume protein before you go and consume these. 478 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 3: Yes, And that was also an important factor. So it 479 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 3: was like it was really relearning how my body needed 480 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 3: nutrition and what that looked like. 481 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: And I just want to point out that you never 482 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: once said calories. Oh no, you said ingredients, you said 483 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: real food, you said nutrition. You never we never counted calories, Nope, 484 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: never touching them. We barely talked about macros. It was 485 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: more conceptual, like intuitive, like making sure she had all 486 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: three macros at every meal, pulling from certain meals that 487 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: we worked on together. That was crafty and creative too. 488 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: But I think that's a big key for people, is 489 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: not I only had ten chips. What else did you have? 490 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: What did you give your body that it can use? 491 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: Because again, if we're putting food into our body or 492 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: process food, I should say, and our body can't use it, 493 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: then it's causing more stress. 494 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: And that's exactly what I was doing. I was an 495 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 2: habitual snacker. That's just how I consumed meals. Was I'd 496 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: eat when I could, and it'd be here or there. 497 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: And I'd be chips, got rock star life. 498 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: Literally like crackers and cheese. I ate like a toddler, 499 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,239 Speaker 2: not because I wanted to, but because that was just 500 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 2: how my lifestyle really allowed. And I had to completely 501 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: shift my idea of what my lifestyle looked like. Yeah, 502 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 2: and it was taking My life is very stressful in 503 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 2: a lot of situations, and I'm very busy all the time, 504 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 2: but I had to put it in a min instead 505 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: of this is your health and the only way you're 506 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: going to be able to keep doing this is to 507 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: take care of yourself. 508 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 509 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: I had to pull back those layers. 510 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. And before that too, before we started working together, 511 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: you had already honed in on sleep and getting yourself 512 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: into a better circadian rhythm. So that was really helpful. 513 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and changing like the I would go to bed 514 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 3: so late. 515 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: Now I go to bed so early. And that's the 516 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: focus I've become a lot more intentional about Yeah, just 517 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: so many different aspects that I would have never learned 518 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: without you. You were so important in guiding and helping 519 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: me learn things and really making me. 520 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 3: Take charge of what I needed to take charge of. 521 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 1: And you did a great job. And I remember at 522 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: the beginning too, you kept saying, my detox, my detox, 523 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: and I'm like, we're goan, Remember we're not. You're not. 524 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: Your body can't detox yet. We have to work on 525 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: the foundations and the drainage pathways. And really, when people 526 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: are getting more honed in on like their goals and 527 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: through a lens of functional nutrition and functional health, then 528 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: it they do feel the detox. So naturally, you your 529 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: detox pathways were opening back up, your drainage pathways were 530 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: getting aligned with the detox pathways, and your body was losing. 531 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: But it's ironic because we never ever once talked about 532 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: your weight. And then at one point I was like, 533 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like your inflammation is gone, and You're 534 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: like I just weighed myself. 535 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 2: And I lost fifteen pounds. What just happened? 536 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was only in six weeks. 537 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 2: It really was, And it was watching I put on 538 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 2: my standing only jeans. That's how I figured it. 539 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: Out, because I can only wear them well standing. 540 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: And so I got really excited because I put on 541 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: my standing only jeans and I was like, I can 542 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 2: sit and standing only jeans. And that was not at 543 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: all part of this entire process, but it was a 544 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: cool moment. 545 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 546 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: And that was then when I weighed myself, I was like, oh, 547 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 2: holy crap, I lost fifteen pounds that I've been trying 548 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: to lose for five years. 549 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 3: It was a wild revelation. 550 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: You probably do a lot of events where you're only standing, yeah, 551 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: so you can justify having a standing only see. 552 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: But this is where the problem was in my body 553 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: was that my waist has always stayed a pretty like 554 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: stable size. It's really never changed, but the inflammation in 555 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: like my gut and stuff has changed. But then it 556 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: changes the fit of a lot of jeans that I 557 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: have to wear, one because I'm sure, and two because 558 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 2: I already have a small waist on top of that. 559 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 2: So like, jeans never fit me in the right way. 560 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they just never did. 561 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: I found very few pairs where they actually were great 562 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: for all opportunities. 563 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 3: So I always had standing jeans. 564 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: Oh, my god, Jean, that's so funny. Oh yeah, so 565 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: that had to be a huge moment. 566 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 2: It was, And it was so funny because even my 567 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: boyfriend was like, you look tiny. You're already tiny, yeah, 568 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,120 Speaker 2: and you look even tinier. It's like you're like shrinking. 569 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 3: And I was like, this feels crazy and I feel amazing. 570 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 3: It wasn't like I was doing. 571 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 2: That because I felt like I needed that, or it was. 572 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: No, it never even came up. It was all trying 573 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: to reverse the symptoms you were having, reverse the conditions 574 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: that you were facing and reset the body. And it 575 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: was detoxing you. You were losing inflammation. But the process 576 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: of that is making sure your four drainage pathways are open. 577 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: Yes, And that's why I want you to talk about that, 578 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 2: because something you had told me was you hear a 579 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 2: lot of people who will promote detoxes online, or they'll 580 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: promote parasite cleanses and these different things. But you looked 581 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: at me and said, we can't do any of that yet. 582 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: We still haven't. 583 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,239 Speaker 2: We haven't even well, we've donexes and parasite things, but 584 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: very minimal. 585 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 3: That's what we're the long. 586 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: Journy to get you to a safe place. 587 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, my body wasn't right. 588 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: It was way too stressed. And what happens is people 589 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: do they jump on board for these quick fixes or 590 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: it worked for so and but the reality is most detos, 591 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: most programs that are marketed as detox cause more harm 592 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: than good because the drainage pathways are not open. So 593 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: when your body is detoxing, So if there's a die 594 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: off with detox, comes die off of pathogens, whether it's parasites, 595 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: fungus candida which is also a fungus bacteria viral, there's 596 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: a die off and that releases gases into the body. 597 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: If the body is not able to collect that up 598 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: and disperse it and get it out of the system, 599 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: it's going to cause more inflammation. So I've seen a 600 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: lot of people do parasite cleanses, especially because that's the 601 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: trendy one lately, because a functional medicine detox will actually 602 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: help to optimize pathways too, and it will at the 603 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: least not do anything. Okay, yes it won't hurt you. 604 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: But those I never see those marketed that those are, 605 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: they're more discreet. The ones I see marketed are always 606 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: causing more harm than good. If the drainage pathways aren't open, 607 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: and so that was a big conversation that we had 608 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: because I know that you are ready to like get 609 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: rid of things, and like we said, it wasn't a 610 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: weight thing. We knew there was inflammation, but we knew 611 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: there was inflammation, not really have based on how she looked, 612 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: because I'm sure you guys look at her and yeah, 613 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: you're tiny, like you're always tiny, but on how she felt. 614 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: So if there's dizziness and there's congestion, So we worked 615 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: on lymphatic system a lot to continue to move waste 616 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: where it was supposed to go. So our lymphatic system 617 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: is the king of waste. And we always just think 618 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: things are coming out in our sweat and our stool, 619 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: but like how do they get to the sweat and 620 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: the stool. There's other symptoms in the body that help that. 621 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: Not only that are lungs, so like a lot of 622 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: people are they have short breasts or it's very much 623 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: in their chest and not in their diaphragm. So we 624 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: worked on breath work right away, We worked on lung capacity, 625 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: and then we worked on nervous system to help the 626 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: lungs because the lungs are the king while you sleep, 627 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: they're creating carbon dioxide that breaks down harmful waste and 628 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: moves it along. So that's the biggest overlooked one in 629 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: my opinion. And then the other one that happens a 630 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: lot for women with anxiety or your stressy girlies. 631 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I call them stressy girlies. 632 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: It makes me no better is the kidneys. The kidneys 633 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: are off, and that shows up in like how we 634 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: don't feel empty when we go pee, or we constantly 635 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: feel like we have to pee, or the opposite, we 636 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: never feel like we have to pee. And so one 637 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: of the drainage pathways is our kidneys, and our uric 638 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: acid is breaking things down so it's not just our poop. 639 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: And her sweat, yes, which also needs optimize for most people. 640 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: So we had a sweat test for you. 641 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And so now that's why I'm now up 642 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: to twenty five minutes in my little blanket, which I'm 643 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: doing really good at now. But at the beginning of 644 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: it was a crazy experience because that was stay in 645 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: so long. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it started fifteen minutes, 646 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: and then we moved up to twenty five every day 647 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: and I still do it. It honestly, Now, if I 648 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: feel like crap because I ate something I shouldn't have, 649 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: or I was busy and I didn't do what I 650 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 2: needed to do, I can get in the sunda blanket. 651 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: It resets me. It gives me a fash start. I 652 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: love that feeling now. 653 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: It is amazing. And the sauna blankets unique too because 654 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: it's infrared. It's not just a hot blanket like a 655 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: lot of people get that on Amazon and then they 656 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,479 Speaker 1: send holes in their body. 657 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 2: But okay, don't do that. Okay, this is your warning 658 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: not to do that. But why is the infrared important? 659 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: The spectrum of so this is physics, and we talked 660 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: a lot about physics working on the nervous system using 661 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: frequency music, that kind of stuff. That's all physics. So 662 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: there's a spectrum of red light and infrared is invisible, 663 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: but it actually helps to work on like a tissue level, 664 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: so getting into the cells, into the tissue of the 665 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: body and releasing things out of it. So just the 666 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: traditional sauna is gonna help purify the body through the sweat. 667 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: Most people aren't sweating appropriately, their drainage pathways aren't open, 668 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 1: so the infrared can help whether the drainage pathways are 669 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: open or not. So I always recommend infrared over traditional, 670 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: especially if you're not really sure you're at in your 671 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: health journey. 672 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's good to know because these are all 673 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 2: things people ask me about and I'm just like, honestly, 674 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: Kara told me what to do, and I just do it. 675 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really what has been happening. 676 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: But almost anyone can benefit from infrared, sana, detox baths, 677 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: red light therapy. So rather than putting extra stuff into 678 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: your body, we were like trying to help mobilize that 679 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: stuff to get out of the body by supporting the 680 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: pathways and your sweat and your nervous system. 681 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 2: And you were at the very beginning of all of this. 682 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: It was like peeling an onion. So you had talked 683 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,719 Speaker 2: to me about and I think this goes along with it. 684 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 2: There was like different steps we had to take in 685 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 2: order for me to get to where I am currently. 686 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 2: This wasn't just a I met with her once and 687 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: she told me, Xyz, I see your labs and this 688 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 2: is what we're doing. It was like, this is step one, 689 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 2: let's start here, and then we just kept adding or 690 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: pulling back or changing things as she was monitoring my progression, 691 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 2: So can you talk about that a little bit. 692 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And going back to the stress support, So we 693 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: saw labs at the very beginning. I was like, I 694 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: need all of your labs that you've had in the 695 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: last year or two, anything, so that I could get 696 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: a good read on her body. And like I said, 697 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: the very obvious thing was if we don't support your 698 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: body in a very loving way, then we're not going 699 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 1: to get where we want to get to. So that 700 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: first layer was just providing the foundational support for you. Again, 701 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 1: that was different. Obviously we always want like an active 702 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: multi vitamin, but you are already doing that with imiplex. 703 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 1: We want in your case, we needed some b activation. 704 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: We need a megas. Almost everybody needs more megas, which 705 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: is better omegas. Yeah, for you. That we did the 706 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: resolve in the body bio. So we were working on 707 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: different because I said, we could see some mitochondrial issues 708 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: that were potentially contributing to the stress or the stress 709 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: caused them. It wasn't which came first, a chicken or 710 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 1: the egg. So we did a lot of the body bio, 711 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: which is sell support for you, and that really helped 712 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: us to eliminate and I guess eliminate the fatigue. So 713 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: once that energy came, we were able to accomplish a 714 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: lot more, and then we could see what would bring 715 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: the energy up and what would bring it back down. 716 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: So we were able to assess, based on your energy levels, 717 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: what was working, what wasn't working. In order for her 718 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: to actually do a detox, I made her run more labs, that. 719 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: Is true, which was also a nightmare because I'm a 720 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: terrified of needles and I hated it. I looked at 721 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: Kara and I said, please, don't make me do it. Also, 722 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 2: I let Kara. 723 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,479 Speaker 3: Prick me in her office to give my blood d off. 724 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: She didn't tell me she was afraid of needles. 725 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was terrified, but we had to figure out 726 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 2: my bloody figures. 727 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 3: She mentioned earlier, because that's been to do this for everybody. 728 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but it was something we needed. But 729 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: then I did end up getting labs, which was also 730 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 2: an interesting experience because you pulled labs so much more 731 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: different than the labs that I had done originally. Yes, 732 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 2: original labs like a CBC that you'd get at a 733 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 2: doctor's office really aren't pulling a lot of the vitamins, minerals, 734 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. 735 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, correct, uh huh. Yeah, So it's not so much 736 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: vitamin like I'm not usually looking at the micronutrient the 737 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: full micronutrient panel. I do like to see some B vitamins. 738 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: I like to see obviously iron. So there are some 739 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: vitamins and minerals. But yeah, the general I always say, 740 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: it's like a cherry picking, like they're gonna You're gonna 741 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: say I have this symptom, and they're gonna just do 742 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: a few labs that are relative to them. But if 743 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: I don't see what's going Like, for instance, I didn't 744 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: have your I feel like your full CMP. 745 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, meta panic, the basic kind of one. 746 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I had your basic. I could tell there 747 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: was a stress load. I could tell it was a 748 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: chronic stress load. I also could tell that we were 749 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: depleted a B vitamins based on your red blood cells, 750 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: but I couldn't figure out because I didn't have the 751 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: panel what that looked like potentially genetically and so how 752 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: far can we go without knowing that there's a potential 753 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: genetic factor? Yeah, and can you detox so you know, 754 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: with genetic components like MTHFR, you might not ever be 755 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: able to detox. So you're you were right on the 756 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: verge of that from a lab marker standpoint. Yes, it 757 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: was way more labs, but was it way more tubes 758 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: when you got the lab work done, it. 759 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 2: Was not a whole much care. Yeah, but it was 760 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 2: also the MTCHFR if you want to touch on that, 761 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 2: because we suspect, again we haven't done the true genetic 762 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 2: testing of it, but based on labs and what she 763 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 2: has seen, Karas like, I suspect that this is probably something. 764 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, because after she lost you lost fifteen pounds before 765 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: we redid labs, I knew there was inflammation based on symptoms, 766 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: but I didn't have the lab markers for that. So 767 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: we ran homocysteine CRP. We did the full iron panel, 768 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: and we did the full thyroid panel, which were not 769 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: in your labs. Your thyroid's good, so that was the 770 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: good news. Like, the stress wasn't so significant that it 771 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: was causing like actual autoimmune, but the homostes scene in 772 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: the CRP were still above what I would have expected 773 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: after doing all that work. So that was the indication that, Okay, 774 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: there's genetic factors at play that we have to make 775 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: sure going forward, So we kind of made a going 776 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: forward plan, like we got to take this into consideration. 777 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: So it's like some of the supports that I have 778 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: you on, might be medicine cabinet, and some might be 779 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: long term. 780 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 2: Yes, something I'm on for the rest of my life, yeah, 781 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 2: versus something I have to take when I feel certain things. 782 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 1: Yes. And in reality too, I feel like when you're 783 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: in a maintenance, we're still not there, Like we haven't 784 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: hit the end goal for you. But when you're in maintenance, 785 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: if you forget to take your supplements or whatever for 786 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: a day or two, it's not a big deal. You 787 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: don't notice the difference. 788 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you've worked up and you put in all 789 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 3: the work and the hours. 790 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: Sucy pays off. Same with food. That's why I was like, 791 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,919 Speaker 1: go enjoy your parties, enjoy the holidays. You have put 792 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: so much into this. You were so compliant, so consistent. 793 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: That pays interest, that carries you through. 794 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 2: And honestly, that was one of the first changes I 795 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 2: had made, was the diet change, going completely dairy free, 796 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 2: gluten free, basically the vegan side of it. And I 797 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 2: still I'm still keeping up with that. That's still something 798 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 2: I'm doing beyond if I go and have a meal 799 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 2: with my family or something, and I can't really find 800 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 2: a lot of options somewhere that I'm at and I 801 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 2: just have to make do. But the before, what's crazy too, 802 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 2: is that would have spiraled me, that would have sent me. Okay, 803 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 2: I already ate this, so I'm just going to continue 804 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 2: down that path. But now Coo on a feeling, Yeah, 805 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 2: really you got head new Morgan. 806 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 3: She's I have my dinner at home, oh you know. 807 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, for me to eat my books called the feel 808 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: Good Way, m h. 809 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 2: It's all about it's really truly integrating into your lifestyle 810 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 2: and figuring out how you can make it. 811 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: Work for you. It doesn't feel like restriction. I love 812 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: that quote that says it's a health quote that says 813 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: everything changes when it goes from I can't have that too. 814 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't want that, And. 815 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 2: That's very much where I am. There's still moments, don't 816 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 2: get me wrong, where I'm like, oh yeah, I want 817 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 2: that for sure, but then I feel it. So now 818 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: that we're in this space right now where I am 819 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 2: trying the ninety ten lifestyle, that's what we've called it, 820 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 2: where ninety percent I'm keeping up with everything in ten percent, 821 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 2: where I have that room to try other foods and 822 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 2: do other things if my life is chaotic, because a 823 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 2: lot of times it is, and I have noticed I'm 824 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 2: I'll get headaches or my body will be really itchy. 825 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 3: It just doesn't like that type of food. 826 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 2: And so when you get that response, after having put 827 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 2: in all the work, you do get to a place 828 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 2: of I don't think I want that, I think I'm okay, 829 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 2: and that you really wait start to weigh. 830 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 3: Those options, especially once you felt so good. 831 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 2: And you know how good it feels to then be like, 832 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 2: I don't feel great anymore. Even the one day that 833 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 2: I had that, I looked at my boyfriend and I 834 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 2: was like, I have the headache. I don't like this. 835 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 2: I don't feel great really recently. 836 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like, I don't want to feel 837 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 3: this way. 838 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,959 Speaker 1: Yea, I don't like this feeling. What was it? 839 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 3: I had some of a cheesecake, which. 840 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 2: You know was a combination of gluten and dairy, and 841 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 2: I had a really long day and I had eaten 842 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 2: my healthy meals, I ate my healthy breakfast, I had 843 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 2: my healthy lunch. So I think that's the only thing that. 844 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: See me need to add an enzyme to your medicine cabinet. Okay, yeah, 845 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 1: probably for times like that. 846 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 2: For moments of it, it was one of those like 847 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 2: really long, stressful days and I needed like a little 848 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 2: to keep me moving. 849 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 3: And but then by the end of the day, I said, 850 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 3: why did I do that? 851 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 2: And I'm just sitting there like contemplating. 852 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: My entire life. Okay, so go to the portal and 853 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: get the cheesecake bites. There we go, and then free 854 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: zo so that you can have that when you want it. 855 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 2: Okay. But this was also my thing that I learned 856 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 2: in this whole process, is the world makes it really 857 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 2: hard to be healthy. 858 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. 859 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 2: I do really great at home. I do really great 860 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 2: when I have all of my stuff, And but why 861 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 2: when I go out into the world and I want 862 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: to enjoy a meal with friends and I want to 863 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 2: be able to work and have options that are. 864 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 3: Healthy, why is that so hard? Why is it so 865 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 3: much to ask for? 866 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 2: I've really realized just how much we're not doing. 867 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: You don't want to go down that rat at home? 868 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 2: I have, I began true, and that's why I have 869 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 2: so much empathy for people who are just struggling and 870 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 2: have chronic issues, because you walk out into the world outside, 871 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 2: outside of your own choices, and you have to make 872 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 2: a choice, or you're going out to dinner, or life 873 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 2: is really chaotic and you have to eat out. For 874 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 2: some reason. 875 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 3: It isn't made easy to give you. 876 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 2: The car to be healthy. 877 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: It's true, and it's getting better. Like we have options, 878 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: but that not accessible. They're not accessible to everybody. I 879 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: know what you're saying. This is a funny story, A 880 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: little bit on topic, a little bit off topic. But 881 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: my husband's friend was in town visiting and I was 882 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: trying to do a fast that day and I don't 883 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: remember what number, what hour I was on, and I 884 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I can't really run the kids around 885 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: all night and be on a fast. He's like, why 886 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 1: you'll stop at Chick fil a or something, and I 887 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: was like no, I'm like, I don't trust myself if 888 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: I get dizzy or something. I would never stop at 889 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: Chick fil a for myself. You're like, if my kids 890 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: in it, yeah, yeah, Like the kids are more resilient 891 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: than me. Like, I don't I feel horrible when I 892 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: eat that stuff. I would rather starve and that's a 893 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: blood sugar issue. But I do keep nuts and stuff 894 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: in my car. My point was I couldn't be on 895 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: a fast and do all the things I needed to 896 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 1: do that night because I was afraid, like driving, you 897 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,720 Speaker 1: don't want to be You gotta be careful when you're fasting. 898 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you do, and you do have to keep 899 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 2: emergency nuts on hand. 900 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had my nets. Yes. 901 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 2: At a wedding one time, one of my friends is 902 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,479 Speaker 2: get married and I was really at the middle point of. 903 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: The Eastern Tennessee wedding. 904 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, very we were in the very middle. We had 905 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 2: hit like a five week mark, and I was like, I, 906 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 2: this wedding can't be my. 907 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: Even ordered you special food. 908 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was vegetarians and they were already accommodating me. 909 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 2: And I made all of my friends, I said, go 910 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 2: eat the food that they please that they ordered specifically 911 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 2: for me. And I was eating my nuts at the 912 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 2: table because I was. I felt so good that I 913 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 2: just didn't want to spiral. Yet. 914 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: I think it's good that you're sharing that because I again, 915 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: like the level of compliance that you had is why 916 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: you got the rich results. It doesn't come without that 917 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: much dedication. And that's really always the hang up I 918 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: have with people is if I could do it for you, 919 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: I would. 920 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 2: But you have to want to do it. 921 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to want to know that there's another 922 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: side to how you feel. 923 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 2: And you have to be willing to It was Karen. 924 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 2: I had a lot of hard conversations, just like the 925 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 2: vegetarian one where she's, hey, if you're going to continue 926 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 2: on this diet, I don't know that you're ever going 927 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 2: to full peak a hundred percent fully healed. 928 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: I can't promise like one hundred percent optimization. 929 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 3: Without yeah, without me change. 930 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 1: It would have been like if you came to me 931 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: and you're like, I still wake up every day at 932 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 1: three point thirty and then I work out and I work, 933 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: and I would be like, we'll support you, but we 934 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: can't optimize that. 935 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 2: It was very much like she said, here are like 936 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 2: all your options, and you have to decide what's going 937 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 2: to be best. And I said, Okay, this is something 938 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 2: I still very much want, but how can I do 939 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 2: everything else? 940 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 941 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 2: And we very much worked around that because I was 942 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 2: willing to do everything else. 943 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 3: And I said that that'll be a conversation down the road. 944 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 2: We'll see how I develop as my years go on, 945 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 2: and but right now, this is how I feel, and 946 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 2: this is where I'm at. 947 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 3: And we had when you. 948 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 1: Took your supplements, you took your electro lights. 949 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I still was eating gluten free dir I 950 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 2: brought food in coolers because I knew again the world 951 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 2: doesn't make it easy. So if you were going to 952 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 2: be out and about, I was not going to find you. 953 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 1: I say, you're you're guys supportive of all that. So 954 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: he was. He's been eating everything. 955 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 2: Very much. Wanted to kill me one of the days 956 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 2: because I gave him a hard time for drinking coffee. 957 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 2: And that's information. I don't think. He's like, but you can. 958 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 2: The internet says it's fine, and I was like, no, 959 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 2: I don't think Carol. 960 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: Remember what my answer was. 961 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're like, oh, it's fine. As long as. 962 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: It's fine for him, it wouldn't it be for you. 963 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was it. And I said, okay, fine. 964 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: You don't drink coffee anyways. But it's almost like your 965 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: system just rejects it because it would be too stressful 966 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 1: for you to have coffee. It would raise your cortisol. 967 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 2: Because of that potential gene that I have that really 968 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 2: holds onto inflammation. That all being said, now I probably 969 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 2: won't be able to eat a lot of dairy. 970 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,399 Speaker 1: No, I think you'll be able to eat. I think 971 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: you'll be able to enjoy the cheeses that you eat. 972 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: You make good dairy choices. It's not like you're just 973 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 1: like binging ice cream. 974 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 3: No, I just really like blocks of cheese. 975 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: And those are have ensigns in them. So in reality, 976 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: I think another solid eight weeks then you would be 977 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,919 Speaker 1: able to incorporate cheese and feel good. 978 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just we haven't hit there. You guys are 979 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 2: really seen at this like middle Mark. Yes, I did 980 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 2: put in a whole lot of work. I feel really great. 981 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 2: I'm really happy with how far it's come. But there's 982 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 2: still more work to be done. And that's a testament 983 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 2: to the fact I really thought it was going to 984 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 2: be easy in a moment where it was like, I 985 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 2: can do this because I want to feel better. But 986 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 2: I think realizing that, oh, this is decades of my 987 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 2: life that I've done damage to my body eating all 988 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,280 Speaker 2: kinds of things and doing all the right and wrong 989 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 2: things that I've created kind of a disaster and I 990 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 2: can't expect that it's going to be fixed. 991 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 1: Just a kid from the Midwest. 992 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 2: Eating that much chain restaurants and having my good fried 993 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 2: food for so many years later. Chips, Yeah, all the 994 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 2: things that I did have to come to this realization 995 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 2: that I'm rewriting years of things that were done to 996 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 2: my body. 997 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 1: And I love that you said that too. I think 998 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: this is going to be so helpful for your listeners 999 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 1: because it's so true. Like you took a cooler to 1000 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,959 Speaker 1: a wedding with you realize that it's going to take time. 1001 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of you do feel better, so 1002 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 1: that gives you a hope to keep going. And that's 1003 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: always the initial response I want from my clients is, oh, 1004 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: this is the best I felt in a long time. 1005 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 1: But I always tell people the calculation is one month 1006 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: for every year. 1007 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of years. That's a lot of months. 1008 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: I work with people in their fifties and I'm like, 1009 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to tell you this, but I need eighteen 1010 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: months to not meeting weekly or anything like that, but 1011 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 1: like eighteen months of really consistent habit changes. 1012 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 2: And it's hard. I'm not going to sugarcoat anything. It 1013 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 2: was hard. It was one of the most trying eight 1014 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 2: weeks of month. 1015 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: It was the hardest part though, I think drinking water. 1016 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm still working on that, still learning how to 1017 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 2: do that. 1018 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: It's really you'll be fooled by her big water bottles. 1019 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 3: It's always full. 1020 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 2: Not a lot of drinking about. I think the hardest 1021 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 2: part was really changing my lifestyle. And I'm actually really 1022 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,359 Speaker 2: proud of where I've come in the fact that I've 1023 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 2: really learned to stop taking so much stress on. I've 1024 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,800 Speaker 2: really thought back against that. I've showed up for myself 1025 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 2: in a lot more ways than I really thought possible. 1026 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,320 Speaker 1: Would you say you have a little bit more resilience 1027 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: to stress though, Yeah. 1028 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 2: For sure, I bounce back a lot more. 1029 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 1: Huh. 1030 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 3: But it I'm quicker to say, hey, this is going 1031 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 3: to stress. 1032 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1033 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 1: Stress to me. 1034 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,359 Speaker 2: Before it was like just keep piling it on, I'll 1035 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:23,919 Speaker 2: figure it out. 1036 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1037 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 2: Now I'm like, no, I need a day. Yeah, give 1038 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 2: me a break and I will be back even better. 1039 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 2: But I've learned to just advocate for myself a little 1040 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 2: bit more. Yeah. 1041 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: And when you say your lifestyle, are you saying because 1042 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,400 Speaker 1: you have so many friends and like activities and going 1043 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,360 Speaker 1: out and drinking and that kind of stuff. 1044 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,359 Speaker 3: It was more just honestly, the drinking is the easiest part. 1045 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 2: I have had maybe two SIPs of a hot Spike 1046 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 2: top chocolate since we started this whole thing. 1047 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 1: That seems like a random choice, it really was. 1048 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,800 Speaker 2: I just really wanted the hot chocolate. If I'm being honest, 1049 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 2: I didn't really care for the alcohol that was in it. 1050 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 3: I don't that part. I don't miss that One's been easy. 1051 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 2: It's more just learning to incorporate all the healthy stuff 1052 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 2: to my lifestyle, like. 1053 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 3: Cooking meals and making sure I'm preparing stuff. 1054 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 1: And being well. And people probably don't realize that, like 1055 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: you don't know what time you're getting home every day. Yeah. 1056 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 2: Everything. 1057 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 1: A lot of people have more routine of a schedule, 1058 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,879 Speaker 1: Like I even have a block of this is when 1059 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,319 Speaker 1: my kids are at school. This is when I do 1060 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: my work, and then I shift to my next block, 1061 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 1: which is I say, I'm working nine two five and 1062 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: then driving five to nine. I like that remix, do 1063 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:35,839 Speaker 1: they like always something? So like supporting your self and 1064 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: your routine is going to be different than your followers 1065 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 1: and your listeners very much. 1066 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 2: And I a lot of my schedule is always up 1067 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,879 Speaker 2: in the air and it's always changing, so I had 1068 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 2: to adjust really just how I go about doing things 1069 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 2: and adding more consistency to my health routine because my 1070 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:55,839 Speaker 2: life is inconsistent. 1071 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,399 Speaker 1: And an example of that is we did mostly warm 1072 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: savory bread bakfast for you and moved your smoothie to 1073 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: a time where it was really hard for you to eat. 1074 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 2: Yep, lunchtime. 1075 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 1076 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 3: And I wouldn't like to eat at lunch well, And 1077 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 3: that's the. 1078 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 1: Other random thing, is like half the time you were 1079 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: home to eat lunch. And so she had her smoothie 1080 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 1: with her anyway. 1081 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 3: Let it defrosted. 1082 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so she would And that's a good habit to 1083 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: tell people. She made her for smoothie, her smoothies ahead 1084 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 1: of time, froze them, and we took them out of 1085 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 1: the freezer in the morning so she could have it 1086 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 1: for lunch. 1087 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 2: And that was very much. The smoothies were a great 1088 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 2: integration into having healthy meals because honestly, food prep is hard. 1089 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 3: That's a really hard part for me. 1090 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 2: I love to cook. It's very much something that I 1091 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 2: enjoy doing, but it requires a lot of time and effort. 1092 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 1: But I don't genuinely have you did that on Sundays 1093 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:50,359 Speaker 1: for the most part, for. 1094 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 2: The most part. Now it's all over the place because 1095 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:53,959 Speaker 2: I'll batch make things well. 1096 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 1: Because it's now more incorporated like you, it's just what 1097 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 1: you do, so you don't have to set it aside 1098 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: a time or have a very specific grocery list because 1099 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: that first grocery list is extensive, am I right? 1100 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:04,839 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1101 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,320 Speaker 1: Oils, the seeds and nuts. 1102 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. But every time when I had to restock everything 1103 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 2: that was like your supplements, but everything in between was 1104 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 2: easy because I knew and I had different ingredients, and 1105 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 2: when you were cooking so much, it just changing that 1106 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 2: habit of me just finding convenience over something that was 1107 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 2: better for me was probably the hardest part. 1108 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, out of all of it everything else. 1109 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 2: Once that started to really came together, I would say 1110 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 2: that took me about a month to get used to that. 1111 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. So then the other thing I want you to 1112 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: talk about. I'm acting like I'm the host here. I 1113 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: love it reverse roles, but I think it's really helpful 1114 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 1: for people, is your boyfriend eats meat. So tell people, 1115 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,439 Speaker 1: like how you made it work where it was accommodating 1116 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 1: both of you guys. 1117 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 2: So every meal that we made fit with my dietary 1118 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 2: restrictions with gluten free, dairy free, and no meat and 1119 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,720 Speaker 2: then he would add he always had either steak or turkey, 1120 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 2: and he would just add it to practically everything we made. 1121 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 1: That's fine, Yeah, like so he ate what you. 1122 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 2: Ate, exact same thing. And then he'd top it with 1123 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 2: a steak that he made soups, he'd throw steak in there, 1124 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 2: and he loved it. 1125 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 1: I love that his easy way to do it. People 1126 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 1: go into it thinking, I don't want to make two meals, 1127 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: or if you have kids and say a piggy husband 1128 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,360 Speaker 1: or spouse or whatever, I don't want to make three meals. 1129 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: But I always say, you rework the meal you make, 1130 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 1: like you make one meal, and then they eat it 1131 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 1: their own various ways. 1132 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, however they want to. Yeah, me too. And there 1133 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 2: was a lot of times where he there's one meal 1134 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 2: that we're both obsessed with. It's called marry meat chickpeas. 1135 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 3: I now batch make it because he could drink it. 1136 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,719 Speaker 1: I swear he doesn't marry me anything. 1137 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,360 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, the whole sauce. 1138 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,479 Speaker 2: I think it's all the same, and it's so good. 1139 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 3: It's so good, And he doesn't eat that with any meat. 1140 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,919 Speaker 2: He there's a lot of them he doesn't eat. Yeah, 1141 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,359 Speaker 2: because he genuinely likes the meals because it's great. But 1142 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 2: then when he get it's like a crazy knee. He's like, 1143 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 2: I need some protein. He'll throw it in there and 1144 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,800 Speaker 2: it's a great addition and it makes it really easy 1145 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 2: that I don't feel stressful if one of us is 1146 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 2: cooking that we have to do something for the other one. 1147 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: So what was his innocent bystander results. 1148 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 2: I think he felt better. It was funny because we 1149 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,240 Speaker 2: both were notorious for also not eating breakfast in the morning, 1150 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,839 Speaker 2: just busy life, and that's become a There was one 1151 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,959 Speaker 2: day where he didn't eat breakfast and the next day 1152 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,439 Speaker 2: he wasn't feeling super great. 1153 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 3: Oh and he got like from work that day. 1154 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 2: So the next day I said, you have to eat 1155 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 2: breakfast today and tell me how you feel. 1156 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 1: I love that. 1157 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 2: He came home that night he said. I was like, 1158 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,360 Speaker 2: did you get tired? Did you have the midday not 1159 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 2: slump er anything? He's like, no, I felt great. I 1160 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,720 Speaker 2: was like, I'm telling you that was a huge change 1161 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 2: for me. I don't have the midday slump any more 1162 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 2: because I eat breakfast. 1163 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. People don't realize that. Again, they think it's 1164 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 1: a calorie control thing. But it's the whole system is working, yep, 1165 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 1: not just insulin or calorie systems. 1166 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 2: You rewired my brain and so love eyes. So yeah, 1167 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 2: from anything from snacking to eating in the morning to 1168 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 2: going on walks instead of being intense. I just hope 1169 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,840 Speaker 2: in general that people are taking from this that I 1170 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 2: basically thought I was doing everything correctly and I was 1171 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 2: living a healthy life by a lot of standards, and 1172 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 2: I had to stop all of it and change to 1173 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 2: do better for myself and fit a lot more of 1174 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,399 Speaker 2: what my body needed. And sometimes that's all our body 1175 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 2: is really asking for, is us to just take the 1176 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,839 Speaker 2: intention to ourselves instead of from everyone else. Yeah, and 1177 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 2: that was very much what changed the game for me. 1178 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 2: Is there anything we haven't hit on that you want 1179 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 2: to make sure we talk about or things that might help. 1180 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 1: No, I think everything else is just too bioindividualized. And 1181 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 1: I think that's it. I guess that's the last thing 1182 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 1: to talk about. Is like when Morgan shares stuff that's 1183 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 1: working for her, sometimes it is a general synopsis that 1184 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 1: it does work for everybody, but not everything she shares 1185 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: is foundational health. It's her health, it's her health journey, 1186 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 1: and it's really important to be happy for people where 1187 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: they're at and also be encouraged that you can get there. 1188 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's always the hope, and sharing, even in 1189 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 2: doing this episode is just to give you perspective and 1190 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 2: maybe open your mind just a little bit more, because 1191 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 2: I think if you would have told me before I 1192 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 2: ever had Remy, I've told Kara this story. 1193 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 3: Before I ever. 1194 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 2: Had Remy, I would have never known anything about holistic 1195 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 2: or integrative or functional health. And Remy has a holistic 1196 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,359 Speaker 2: and traditional medicine vet who combines both of them, what 1197 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 2: you'd call now an integrative vete. And I had her 1198 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 2: for ten years with Remy, and that was my introduction 1199 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,840 Speaker 2: to all of this, and I'm really thankful for that 1200 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 2: experience because it's helped my health, it's helped Remy's health, Hazel. 1201 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 2: It's just it's shaped a lot of what I understand 1202 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,880 Speaker 2: about health and wellness, and I think so much of 1203 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,399 Speaker 2: it is it can be wrapped in such a tiny 1204 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,319 Speaker 2: bow of saying this is. 1205 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 3: Not a one size fits all. What works for me 1206 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 3: is not going to work for you. 1207 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 2: But I hope it encourages you to look for things 1208 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:03,280 Speaker 2: for you and also just be curious, be asking questions. 1209 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,439 Speaker 2: Be open minded because the answers that you might think 1210 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 2: are there maybe a little bit more complex than what 1211 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,280 Speaker 2: you've been believed to think your entire life. 1212 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, good to challenge that belief sometimes. 1213 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And from a foundational standpoint, if you heal your cells, 1214 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: your body will heal. So we have to take whatever's 1215 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 1: stressing the cells out and replace it with what's nourishing 1216 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,920 Speaker 1: the cells. And that's what I teach. 1217 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is important the. 1218 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 2: Board part and all back to please don't do the 1219 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 2: parasite clans you see online. Make sure you're ready for this. 1220 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 1: Morgan's not even to get to do a parasite clean 1221 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 1: still the spring. 1222 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 2: I've been working on this for a long time perspective, Yes, 1223 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 2: so just be weary of what you're seeing online, but 1224 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 2: also take it as knowledge and ask questions and be curious. 1225 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 2: That's that's what started this whole thing for me, was 1226 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,440 Speaker 2: asking Cara questions on a podcast episode. 1227 00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 1: Truly let's exchange info. 1228 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeou it did because life was happening and we had 1229 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 2: to find the right period of time in my life 1230 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 2: that it was going to work. 1231 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 3: So everybody's going to have these moments. 1232 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 2: Where it'll work and where it won't, and it's really 1233 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 2: more than anything, what's really discouraging is to be chronically ill. 1234 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 2: I know that from so many standpoints now, and it's 1235 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 2: really hard to sit in a doctor's office and say 1236 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 2: you're totally fine, but here we can try X, Y 1237 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 2: and Z, and you're just sitting there. I don't want 1238 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 2: to spend more money trying X, Y and Z when 1239 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 2: I know I don't feel good even though you're telling 1240 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,040 Speaker 2: me I'm fine. And so this is for everybody who 1241 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 2: feels that way, just to say whatever you're feeling is 1242 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 2: valid and there are options for you to try other things, 1243 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 2: however it may look. 1244 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 1: And you don't want anyone normalized not feeling good exactly. 1245 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 2: The Cara's the whole thing is the feel good way 1246 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 2: you're supposed to feel good exactly. And you do have 1247 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 2: a big announcement coming at this point when this comes 1248 00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 2: out on Monday. 1249 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 1: Yes, are you shared? Is it this Monday before Thanksgiving? 1250 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1251 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 2: No, okay, So we need to make sure everybody just 1252 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 2: goes and text her out on socials. 1253 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, she has big stuff coming. 1254 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,760 Speaker 1: That anybody can do. You don't. You have to prep 1255 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: your body for this, and that's why I did it, 1256 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 1: That's why. So it is a product. And the reason 1257 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,480 Speaker 1: I did this as my first product is because I 1258 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 1: see it as being valuable to every person, no matter 1259 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 1: what age. 1260 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 2: And this is important because if you are wanting things 1261 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 2: to work for everybody, then this is a great starting point. 1262 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 2: But also she does all kinds of challenges that anybody 1263 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 2: can get on. 1264 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 1: And in our membership portal right now or in our membership, 1265 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 1: we are working on inflammation as a theme, and we 1266 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,080 Speaker 1: just talked about genetic inflammation, so the things that we 1267 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 1: see show up in your labs we just talked about 1268 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 1: in November and December, we're working on inflammation from a 1269 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 1: nervous system standpoint. How the nervous system, how you're talking 1270 00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 1: about rewiring like the body wires too, So we're doing that. 1271 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 1: But more importantly in the new year, we are working backwards, 1272 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 1: so back to basics regulating blood sugar, but also how 1273 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 1: to biohack your own body to regulate blood sugar because 1274 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 1: each body is different and tools to use to do that. 1275 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:22,240 Speaker 1: So getting our metabolic system optimized will not only reverse diseases, 1276 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 1: but it'll prevent almost every single disease there is. 1277 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, and see this is all stuff that you 1278 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 2: guys can you don't. You can use care virtually through 1279 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 2: her programs and memberships and all kinds of things. You 1280 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 2: can also just start by eating whole foods and getting 1281 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 2: her cookbook. That's a great place to start if you're 1282 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,240 Speaker 2: like overwhelmed and this is too much. 1283 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:41,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, start. 1284 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,920 Speaker 2: She has a great cookbook called The Feel Good Way, 1285 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 2: and you can start there by cooking better for yourself 1286 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 2: or just cooking. 1287 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, just trying some new things. But check them all out. 1288 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,520 Speaker 3: It's care Clark nutrition dot Com for everything. 1289 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:54,840 Speaker 1: Yep. 1290 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,800 Speaker 2: And then I'm excited to see the new product. I know. 1291 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for sharing that. Yeah, honestly, thanks for being so 1292 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 1: transparent and vulnerable. This is obviously going to help your audience, 1293 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: but it's going to help mine too. 1294 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's important. This is the whole story. Yeah, 1295 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,400 Speaker 2: I can only share so much in a minute thirty 1296 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 2: second clip online. 1297 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: But you tried. 1298 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's where I get yelled that for doing something, 1299 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 2: and I said, no, I'm just trying to help anybody, 1300 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,920 Speaker 2: maybe this way. So this was the long form version 1301 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 2: to hopefully help other people start to heal, because I know, 1302 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,760 Speaker 2: me feeling better would make a lot of other people 1303 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 2: feel great if they could feel what I'm feeling right now. 1304 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,120 Speaker 1: We can't wait to tell you guys that her smell 1305 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:33,439 Speaker 1: is one hundred percent back. 1306 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 2: I'll be exciting to Yeah, that might be as exciting 1307 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 2: as the standing only g today for sure. Kara, thanks for. 1308 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Being here, Thanks for having me. 1309 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 2: I've had so many questions about my health journey and 1310 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 2: how it's been correlating to long COVID, so I'm hoping 1311 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 2: this episode gave some more perspective into how everything has 1312 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 2: been working and really why I'm doing it. Kara is 1313 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 2: such a great resource if you have chronic health issues 1314 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 2: or really any health issue that has come with lots 1315 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 2: of questions and no answers. I hope everyone can feel 1316 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 2: as great as I've been feeling the last few weeks, 1317 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 2: and all of the hard things have totally been worth it. 1318 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 2: As always, I'm so happy that you're here, currently working 1319 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 2: on more episodes and series for you all, so be 1320 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 2: sure to subscribe for more next week and as we 1321 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,640 Speaker 2: get into the holidays. I'd love to be your friend 1322 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 2: on the microphone through the tough times, because. 1323 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 3: That's what this is all about. I'll talk with you 1324 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 3: guys next week