WEBVTT - Jakobi Meyers vs. Courtland Sutton | Week 9 Lineup Advice: Must-Start Players, Sleepers, Sits, and Player Debates (Ep. 1423)

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>warmly joined today by a couple of guys who are

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<v Speaker 1>not dressed as they usually are. It's Andrew Erickson.

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<v Speaker 2>As I mean, I'm the Dolphins head coach. Give the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>aham and got to a back. Let's go. Let's go Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember we do have an audio only audience, so I

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<v Speaker 1>want you need to actually say it out loud and

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<v Speaker 1>not just trust people to know your costume, which does

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<v Speaker 1>look great by the way. Ericson he is rocking the

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McDaniel offense here, you know for Halloween fits. Who

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<v Speaker 1>are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm dan Quinn, coming off a big game. Didn't play

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<v Speaker 3>our greatest game against the Bears last week, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>pulled off a pretty big play at the end. So

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<v Speaker 3>floating on clouds right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Favorite to win the Coach of the Year, dan Quinn.

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<v Speaker 2>Congrats to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Really ahead of Matt Lafleur, you are in first place.

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<v Speaker 3>Play calling wizardry that he has overseen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe dan Quinn's coaching extends as far as he's

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<v Speaker 1>lucky enough to have Jade Daniels be an MVP candidate

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<v Speaker 1>as a rookie he's been he's been good. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't actually don't want to like disparage Dan Quinny.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been good, but yeah, I think well Floor has

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<v Speaker 1>been more impressive. I would agree.

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<v Speaker 3>Quinn's doing a terrific job, though. I mean, the Commanders

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<v Speaker 3>are one of the funnest stories in the NFL this season.

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<v Speaker 3>Without question.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Halloween, of course, that's why we were addressed up.

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I'm rocking the closest thing I have to

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<v Speaker 1>Sean McVay, I don't really own any costumes or anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a it's a hoodie that has that coloring,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've got the hair and facial hair for it,

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<v Speaker 1>so I figured that's what i'd go with. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not get the headset rocking like you two did, so

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<v Speaker 1>you guys definitely both look more like coaches than I do,

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<v Speaker 1>and and I respect it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well because you didn't show up with the headset. You

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<v Speaker 2>got to give us the coach speak. What are you expecting,

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<v Speaker 2>Kyrien Williams are going to be split a play Quorum's

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<v Speaker 2>pooka gonna play snapcount? What do you think? What do

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<v Speaker 2>you think, Sean ovay, What's what's going on? Coach? You know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, guys, I just I just got I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>good at impressions. I can't do it. I'm also kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sick, you know, guys. You know, I just I

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<v Speaker 1>really think cam Akers is gonna be huge this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to trade back for him and give him

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<v Speaker 1>the workout here. I fully recognize I have no ability

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<v Speaker 1>to impersonate anybody, So that's not me thinking I have

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<v Speaker 1>a good Sean McVay impression, just that I've been told

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<v Speaker 1>on occasion that I kind of look like and when

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<v Speaker 1>I wear the sweatshirt. So that's that's what I'm going with.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my best, uh my best impression. Do you do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a Mike McDaniel for us Erickson?

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<v Speaker 2>I do not have a Mike McDaniel. It's just, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what does he I mean, he's really smart.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a smart guy, smarter than I am, So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I mean, I guess my impersonation.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be could deny you could deny vaping on the

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<v Speaker 1>sideline during a game?

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<v Speaker 3>Do that?

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<v Speaker 2>I could talk about how I spent two weeks in

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<v Speaker 2>the bunker devising ways to get John who Smith the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Over two weeks fresh period. So that's about it. Though

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<v Speaker 2>for my impersonations of mister Mike Daniel, we can't really

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<v Speaker 2>have continue impression owned by the bills, including this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Most likely we cannot really have fits to an impression

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<v Speaker 1>of dan Quinn because I would have to bleep out

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<v Speaker 1>every other word.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, is so.

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<v Speaker 2>Throwing your headset all over the place like after the Hailmars.

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<v Speaker 1>We're having some fun. Like I said, we are recorded

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<v Speaker 1>obviously Thursday morning, so it is Halloween. Happy Halloween to

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<v Speaker 1>everybody who is listening and watching, and hopefully this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>Slated Games is full of treats more than tricks for

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<v Speaker 1>your fantasy teams. This is our start sit show. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go through our favorite starts of the week, sits

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<v Speaker 1>waiver ads. Are we starting or sending them some touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>calls at the end of the show. It's our weekly

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday show and a quick reminder for everyone. All of

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<v Speaker 1>our weekly consensus rankings and tiers can be found at

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<v Speaker 1>fantasypros dot com slash rankings. One last Halloween related thing,

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<v Speaker 1>guys before we jump in, We've been doing this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of internal at work candy bracket over the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days kind of put together by HR and some

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<v Speaker 1>of our coworkers. We're i think, going into the championship today,

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<v Speaker 1>who is your guys as one of one of candy

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna say, I don't know if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pick this, but I'm gonna take Recy's peanut butter cups

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<v Speaker 1>out of the equation because I think that is most

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<v Speaker 1>people's one to one, and so just for the sake

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<v Speaker 1>of mixing it up, if that was gonna be your

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<v Speaker 1>one one, let's pick something else. Ericson what do you got?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can't put me on the spot like

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<v Speaker 2>that when you take away the answer that I want

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<v Speaker 2>to give. I know that's I try to I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>the I'm in the I like to be right, not

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to diversify. So I'm sorry, I'm just going

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<v Speaker 2>with Reese's peanut butter cup. I can give you my

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<v Speaker 2>last ranking, Dot completely ignored. I can give you the

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<v Speaker 2>zero zero, which is Dots the worst candy ever.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you know who tweeted this morning what his

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<v Speaker 1>one on one one is is d Bro and he's

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<v Speaker 1>a candy corn. So I thought that's what you were

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<v Speaker 1>going to say for your zero zero I think, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think candy corn is gets a bad rap sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's closer to Round fourteen than it is to

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<v Speaker 1>a round one pick in my opinion fits. What about you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree with that. I like candy corn, but

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<v Speaker 3>it is not the one on one, so I'll go

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<v Speaker 3>with KitKat. I mean, recess would certainly be in the conversation,

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<v Speaker 3>Twix would be in the conversation, and one that got

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<v Speaker 3>short shrift and got blown out in the first round

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<v Speaker 3>in our competition. I love whopper. I'm a big whoppers guy,

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<v Speaker 3>and whoppers stoppers are. Whoppers are devisive. My wife is like,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you doing with She thinks whoppers are just horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>The kids kept bringing all the whoppers. You're like, oh, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>come to me, come to daddy, let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>And the great thing is my kids did not like whoppers,

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<v Speaker 3>so when they were of trick or treating age, I

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<v Speaker 3>was coming in hoovering up all the whoppers. Baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I quite like candy, but I'm pretty specifically candy. I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't do sour candies. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>love fruit candies that much either, Like I don't hate

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<v Speaker 1>skittles or like Jolly Ranchers or whatever, but like they're

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<v Speaker 1>not my favorite, and I also don't like caramel, so Snickers,

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<v Speaker 1>Milky Way twigs like those are all pretty much ruled

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<v Speaker 1>out for me. My Tier one is Recee's peanut butter

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<v Speaker 1>cups and kit kats, so so those are both mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll name the top of my Tier two, which is Eminem's,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll take any variety peanut m and ms, the

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<v Speaker 1>like Crispy Eminem's, the peanut butter Eminem's, regular Mini em

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<v Speaker 1>and M's are great. They're just classic, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they get enough enough hype for Like when I

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<v Speaker 1>was sugar treating Eminem's, that was a top three candy

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<v Speaker 1>you could put in my bag. I was really thrilled

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<v Speaker 1>if I got any kind of Eminems. So they just

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<v Speaker 1>got eliminated actually in our in our bracket. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see how that wraps up. But yeah, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>do candy talk on Halloween, right, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's jump in.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of adding candy to you to your bucket, how

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<v Speaker 1>about some adding players to your off the waiver wire.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a rough transition, but we're gonna power through.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we starting or sitting these waiver Wire ads in

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<v Speaker 1>week nine, there weren't a ton of options. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like there were really any good running back options

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<v Speaker 1>to even pick this week. Everybody was either too largely

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<v Speaker 1>rostered already or just somebody that like is really more

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<v Speaker 1>of a backup, like Stash guy. So I went away

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<v Speaker 1>from any running backs in this section. We're gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>with a couple of receivers here. Cedric Tillman the clear

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<v Speaker 1>top option here. He is the recent's peanut butter cup

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<v Speaker 1>of the Week nine waiver Wire in my opinion, fits

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<v Speaker 1>you do the waiver Wire show. What was your approach

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<v Speaker 1>to adding Tilman this week? I'm really excited Adam everywhere?

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<v Speaker 1>And are you starting him in week nine?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you Mede my flag plant player from last week

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<v Speaker 3>who had ninety nine yards and two touchdowns. Yes, so

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<v Speaker 3>I am starting Cedric Tillman in a couple of leagues

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<v Speaker 3>this week. I did pick him up. Spent pretty aggressively

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<v Speaker 3>with fab in a couple of leagues. So for this week,

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<v Speaker 3>the good news is that you know, things have gone

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<v Speaker 3>swimmingly for Tillman lately the last couple of weeks and

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<v Speaker 3>last week in jamis Winston's first start of the season

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<v Speaker 3>seven ninety nine and two. Great stat line, but the

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<v Speaker 3>matchup against the Chargers isn't that great. The Chargers of

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the third fewest fantasy points and third

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<v Speaker 3>fewest receiving yards to wide receivers, and the Chargers are

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<v Speaker 3>just really good at uglying up games. I'm a little

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<v Speaker 3>worried about that, but we do know that Jameis Winston

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<v Speaker 3>is going to throw aggressively downfield. The only thing is

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<v Speaker 3>that Tillman's got to share targets with Elijah Moore, Jerry Judy,

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<v Speaker 3>those guys are getting targets to and of course David Nijoku,

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<v Speaker 3>who is at least the equal of the wide receivers

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<v Speaker 3>in offense. So I've got Tillman wide receiver thirty two.

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<v Speaker 3>I think in most normal sized leagues he has a

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<v Speaker 3>wide receiver three or flex play.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be like a prisoner of the

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<v Speaker 1>moment and just overreacting to you know, he had the

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<v Speaker 1>best game of the bunch. He didn't even lead the

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<v Speaker 1>team in targets in this last week. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>in the stadium, I was in Cleveland for that game.

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<v Speaker 1>Disappointing finished for me, I thought Tillman looked like the

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<v Speaker 1>most legitimate star receiver of the bunch, Like in just

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<v Speaker 1>just the eye test alone, I felt like he was

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that looked most like in Alpha, he was

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that looked most like I could see two

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<v Speaker 1>months from now sitting here and calling him a league winner.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, so thoroughly impressed by Tilman, by his

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<v Speaker 1>connection with Winston. Now was a banged up Ravens secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of expected the Browns to throw, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all over the Ravens defense in this one, and they did.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just thought Tilman looked looked like genuinely like

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<v Speaker 1>a star.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, He's He's physically imposing, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Very much.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen some people kind of throwout the cop to

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe you know the next Nico Columns as like

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of physical specimen who takes a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years and then gets the right quarter back. Except in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, direct quarterback isn't Scrout, it's Jamis Winston, which

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<v Speaker 1>is fun ericson what are you doing with Tilman this week?

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's a wide receiver three. I have him

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<v Speaker 2>ranked pretty close to her. FITS has him at wide

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<v Speaker 2>receiver thirty five. I think You just need to be

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<v Speaker 2>aware that last week is probably not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a repeat performance this week. Last week it was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the perfect storm forty five pass attempts for Jamis

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<v Speaker 2>Winston against a banged up secondary that they knew they

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<v Speaker 2>had to throw the ball on. This Chargers game screams

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<v Speaker 2>much more of a kind of a grosser game. Playing

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<v Speaker 2>against the Chargers team that likes to run the football.

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<v Speaker 2>You could see the Browns, I mean, lean on the

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<v Speaker 2>run a little bit more. Look at the Chargers defense.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a little bit weaker against the run.

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<v Speaker 2>Then in the past, they don't really stack the box,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't really try to stop the run. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think maybe could see a little bit more Nick Chubb.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think that he's the still think he's

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<v Speaker 2>a wide receiver three because he's good, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that you're gonna see probably a more dramatic fall off

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<v Speaker 2>with the Jerry Judy's the Elijah Moores of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And I still think that in joke, was probably still

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<v Speaker 2>like the number one overall in terms of targets in

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<v Speaker 2>this offense. But I think he's an okay start. I

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<v Speaker 2>just wouldn't expect him to get you know, one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>receiving yards and two touchdowns again.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you agree with that last point? Fits that in

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<v Speaker 1>Djoku's number one ahead of these receivers.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of do. Yeah. I mean, I like Nijoku

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<v Speaker 3>is a must start absolutely now. And it's it's funny

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<v Speaker 3>because he was borderline unusable earlier in the season, just

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<v Speaker 3>like last.

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<v Speaker 2>Year, you couldn't use it. They got round Watson and

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<v Speaker 2>then he just went on a tear. Just do it again.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess like I would put Tilman as like

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<v Speaker 1>he's a guy if I have him on my roster.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm looking for a place a way to start

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<v Speaker 1>him this week, but I am managing expectations like you're

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<v Speaker 1>certainly not expecting almost one hundred yards and two touchdowns again.

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<v Speaker 1>Another receiver, a young guy, rookie Kean Coleman fits is

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<v Speaker 1>somebody we talked a lot about on the Dynasty Show

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<v Speaker 1>in the off season. Now seeing him kind of started

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<v Speaker 1>to put it together a bit more. In this Bill's offense,

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<v Speaker 1>they did Adamari Cooper, so it's not like he's the

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<v Speaker 1>only target option any more. Khalushi Kirov obviously playing well too,

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<v Speaker 1>but again rookie receivers in the second half of the

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<v Speaker 1>rookie season. That's just a profile I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>after as much as I possible we can. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you added Coleman this week, are you starting him in

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<v Speaker 1>Week nine?

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<v Speaker 3>Borderline? And it's fun that we're getting to see this

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<v Speaker 3>guy start to shine, like his ball skills are just

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<v Speaker 3>freaky good. I've got him at wide receiver thirty six

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<v Speaker 3>this week. He's just got a very wide range of outcomes.

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<v Speaker 3>We just can't count on a lot of targets for

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<v Speaker 3>him when he is sharing with Amari Cooper, Khalil Shakir,

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<v Speaker 3>Dalton Kinkaid, James Cook, and we've got an offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 3>in Joe Brady who loves to run the ball. So fortunately, though,

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<v Speaker 3>Keon Coleman is the kind of wide receiver who can

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<v Speaker 3>pop on a limited number of targets. He's had seven

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<v Speaker 3>in each of the last two weeks. He had in

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<v Speaker 3>Week seven one hundred and twenty five yards against the Titans,

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<v Speaker 3>in Week seven seventy yards and a touchdown last week

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<v Speaker 3>against Seattle. So even with seven targets not a big

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<v Speaker 3>target total, he has come through in each of the

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<v Speaker 3>last two weeks. Boomer best flex option, though, I think

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<v Speaker 3>just because we can't really on him being seriously involved.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he makes a big play or two, but you

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<v Speaker 3>know he's not going to get double digit targets. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just not how this offense works.

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<v Speaker 2>Erickson, I think I'm a little more optimistic about Keon

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<v Speaker 2>Coleman this week. I'm not really looking at the matchup

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<v Speaker 2>per se. It's just this is a rookie who was

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<v Speaker 2>drafted at the top of the second round that is

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<v Speaker 2>breaking out before our eyes. Why aren't we more excited

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<v Speaker 2>about Keon Coleman. Yeah, I get that there's other targets

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<v Speaker 2>in this offense, but who's the quarterback? Josh Allen like

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<v Speaker 2>he can get by on maybe not as much volume

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<v Speaker 2>as some of these other wide receivers. You look at

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<v Speaker 2>what he's done over the last basically through the first

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<v Speaker 2>eight weeks of the season, his receiving yards over expectation

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<v Speaker 2>third most by rookie wide receiver, trailing only Jamar Chase

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<v Speaker 2>and Justin Jefferson. That's the bucket of what he's done

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<v Speaker 2>through eight weeks of the NFL season, and we're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of ranking him EH wide receiver three. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we need to be buying into what we're seeing in

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<v Speaker 2>this breakout with Keon Coleman, because Fitz said it. He

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<v Speaker 2>looks great like he is making contested catches in the

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<v Speaker 2>red zone. So yeah, if he only gets five targets, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that half of those are going to come

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<v Speaker 2>in the end zone so he can come down with

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<v Speaker 2>a touchdown. He's shown the big play ability. He has

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<v Speaker 2>chemistry with Josh Allen, more so than Amari. Cooper's still

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<v Speaker 2>new to the team, so I think that yes, the

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<v Speaker 2>raw target volume hasn't really been there for him, but

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<v Speaker 2>the high value opportunities. He's the air yards leader last

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks, red zone target leader the last two weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>and he still has a twenty two percent target chair,

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<v Speaker 2>which is still really good. And I think one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things to point out about his role, it's changed

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. Josh Allen is now looking for him

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<v Speaker 2>on third downs. That's something that was not the case

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<v Speaker 2>in the beginning of the season. So you're starting to

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<v Speaker 2>see the trust with Josh Allen. And if I have

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<v Speaker 2>to push my chips on on a receiver that's attached

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<v Speaker 2>to Josh Allen, like that's the bet I'm making. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's going to work out for you most times.

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<v Speaker 2>So I like Kean Coleman. Somebody asked me in discord,

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<v Speaker 2>A'mari Cooper or Keon Coleman, and I had Cooper ranked

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of him, just because you know he's the veteran.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I thought about it and like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I would rather start a mark. I mean, both

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<v Speaker 2>guys have boom or bust potential, but who's shown more

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<v Speaker 2>the last two weeks when both guys been into playing

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<v Speaker 2>in the same offense, It's been key On Coleman. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>I think both guys have Like Fitz, I think boom

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<v Speaker 2>or bust is the right way to approach it. But

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<v Speaker 2>this rookie's breaking out and I don't want to miss it,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to chase these booms.

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<v Speaker 1>Fits what other waiver wire ad. Since I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any good running backs, I wanted to throw a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>in here in Jamis Winston. We already kind of talked

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<v Speaker 1>about that offense a bit with Cedric Tillman was awesome

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<v Speaker 1>against the Ravens again an appealing matchup. You know, guys

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<v Speaker 1>that beat up Baltimore defense, but Jamis looked good. There's

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<v Speaker 1>talent on the offense around him. If he plays at

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<v Speaker 1>at a decent level, like even if people were saying

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time, like if Deshaun Watson was just an

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<v Speaker 1>average quarterback, this team would be a playoff contender. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think Jamis can at least give them

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<v Speaker 1>average quarterback play. So what do you make of him

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<v Speaker 1>starting in Week nine in that Chargers matchup?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I am in his ECR is QB eighteen. I

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<v Speaker 3>have got him QB nine. So Jamis is, Yeah, Jamis

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<v Speaker 3>is just gonna let it. Rint Man so forty one

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<v Speaker 3>past ten last week in his first start of the season,

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<v Speaker 3>and Jamis throws it aggressively downfield. Here's an interesting stat

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<v Speaker 3>from our good friend Jacob Gibbs of CBS. Jamis had

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred and seventy five catchable air yards against the

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<v Speaker 3>Ravens last week. The previous high and catchable air yards

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<v Speaker 3>for any quarterback this season Brock Purdy with two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and thirteen, and only two other quarterbacks have produced two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred or more catchable air yards in a game this season,

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan Love and Dak Prescott. So I realized the matchup

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<v Speaker 3>with the Chargers is not great, and there's always a

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<v Speaker 3>chance Jamis is going to throw multiple interceptions because he

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<v Speaker 3>is such an aggressive downfield passer. I don't care. I

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<v Speaker 3>want this dude in my lineup.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, essentially through multiple interceptions in this game,

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<v Speaker 1>even when he was great that just weren't caught. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to talk any more about that though. Eric said,

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<v Speaker 1>Jamis Winston, where are you ranking him?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm more in line with where ECR has him.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I can't say I'm not convinced by

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<v Speaker 2>fits about I gotta probably move him up at him

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<v Speaker 2>as a QB streamer. I know I picked him up

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<v Speaker 2>in a couple leagues where I had to drop Anthony Richardson.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean we saw this with Joe Flaka last year.

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<v Speaker 2>The dude just let it rip the rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't really it didn't even matter who he played. You

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<v Speaker 2>just just started every single week. So I think we're

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<v Speaker 2>beginning to see this Brown's offense really blossom. And if

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<v Speaker 2>Winston's out there on your waiver wire, it's still not

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<v Speaker 2>too late to hop on the bandwagon. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>Browns win in an upset in this game. If they

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<v Speaker 2>win and means they're scoring touchdowns. So yes, the Browns

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<v Speaker 2>have impending regression because they could never score their team

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<v Speaker 2>total with Deshaun Watson. Well, they got out with the

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<v Speaker 2>team total last week with Winston, and I think you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to continue to see that trend over and over

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<v Speaker 2>and over again. So yeah, I'm gonna start. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to move him up.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you don't think just quickly fits like this is

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<v Speaker 1>like a long term Like if you had him in dynasty,

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<v Speaker 1>would you be looking to just sell high if your

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<v Speaker 1>rebuilding team hold on, if you're a contending team, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you make of him like long term? Or

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<v Speaker 1>is this just like, hey, maybe the back half of

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<v Speaker 1>the season will be another Joe Flacco.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the interceptions, man. You can't live with the interceptions

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<v Speaker 3>long term. That's why no one is going to go

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<v Speaker 3>forward with Jamis Wing as their quarterback of the future.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he's not going to be anyone's long term plan

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<v Speaker 3>at QB.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, fits, who is your plant your flag

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<v Speaker 1>player for week nine?

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's Calvin Ridley, And I'm a little worried now

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<v Speaker 3>because he has since shown up on the injury report,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't practice with the shoulder issue on Wednesday. But in

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<v Speaker 3>the Titans first game after trading away DeAndre Hopkins, Ridley

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<v Speaker 3>had fifteen targets, ten catches, one hundred and forty three yards.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people have been impatiently waiting for Calvin

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<v Speaker 3>Ridley to live up to the vast potential he showed

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<v Speaker 3>early in his career. I'm very encouraged that he was

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<v Speaker 3>hyper targeted by Mason Rudolph last week with no DeAndre

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<v Speaker 3>Hopkins in the picture. Optimistic, cautiously optimistic that continues. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, maybe this is my great pumpkin moments. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>be like Linus in the pumpkin patch waiting for another

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred yard game for Calvin Ridley. That's fine, man,

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<v Speaker 3>Just give me my blanket and my flashlight and I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>Ericson who's your plant, your flag player.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going with Nick Chubb, someone that you were kind

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<v Speaker 2>of pushing back on me and Fitz last week, worm

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<v Speaker 2>about how you liked him a little bit more and

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<v Speaker 2>although he didn't have a monster game in the box score.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Pi Sapia had brought this to me. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the first game that a running back rushed for fifty

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<v Speaker 2>yards against the Baltimore Ravens and it was Nick Chubb

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<v Speaker 2>that was the running back that did it. So he's

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<v Speaker 2>already talked to the media earlier this week saying he's

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<v Speaker 2>starting to feel back to himself again, What else is

0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.680
<v Speaker 2>he going to say? But it's encouraging because you're starting

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<v Speaker 2>to see it in the box score, like he's getting

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<v Speaker 2>more touched. I mean, he saw almost twenty opportunities in

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<v Speaker 2>that game, which was going back and forth between a

0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.760
<v Speaker 2>really tough Baltimore Ravens defense. And I talked earlier about

0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:39.200
<v Speaker 2>how the Browns can score on this Chargers offense. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>if Fitzblieze Winston is going to be putting up top

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<v Speaker 2>ten quarterback performance, well, they're going to be moving the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to be in red zone opportunities, and what

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<v Speaker 2>does that mean? Nick Chubb is going to have chances

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<v Speaker 2>to score touchdowns here? So I look at the Chargers defense.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't stack the box. They have one of the

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<v Speaker 2>lowest stackbock rates in the NFL, below ten percent. So

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<v Speaker 2>if Winston's getting favorable looks in this offense, getting favorable

0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.280
<v Speaker 2>looks to run the football, I think they will they

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<v Speaker 2>love Nick Chubb like he is there there Again, if

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<v Speaker 2>it went for Jameis Winston, he would be the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the town. Nick Chubb coming back from this major

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<v Speaker 2>knee injury. So I think that Chubb is an interesting player,

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<v Speaker 2>someone that I think is viewed as an RB three,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think maybe he can seek into the top

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four conversation, look at the running backs the Charges

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<v Speaker 2>have faced. Five of the last six running bicks they

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<v Speaker 2>face have exceeded their rushing projection. All of them hit

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<v Speaker 2>at least sixty four rushing yards. Last two weeks, They've

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<v Speaker 2>allowed five point seven yards per carry over one hundred

0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.480
<v Speaker 2>rushing yards per game to opposing running backs, And Alba

0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:34.159
<v Speaker 2>Kamara was like, he looked great against this Chargers run

0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.680
<v Speaker 2>defense because they're not selling out to stop the runs.

0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.400
<v Speaker 2>So maybe as they try to avoid Jamis Winston throwing

0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.000
<v Speaker 2>all over them, they try to put more guys in

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<v Speaker 2>coverage in and let those a little bit lighter in

0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:47.800
<v Speaker 2>the box. So, yeah, Nick Chubb for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like I was just listening back to

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<v Speaker 1>the tape from last week's show and everything I said

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<v Speaker 1>about Nick Chubb, like the offense is gonna better, He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have more scoring opportunities. They love this guy. You're

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<v Speaker 1>now on Boordish. I appreciate. I think I mentioned last

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<v Speaker 1>too that no running back had gotten fifty yards. It

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<v Speaker 1>might have been on the Friday Show if you weren't on,

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<v Speaker 1>But in my I will say I didn't think Chubb

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<v Speaker 1>was going to get fifty yards. I thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to, you know, get get a touchdown, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why I thought he was maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Fans, but points for being for being fair. He still

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<v Speaker 2>any fans. But but again to.

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<v Speaker 1>Your point, most rushing yards against now there Again we've

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Ericson, let's get into some start sit player debates.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with Kareem Hunt versus JK. Dobbins. Who do

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<v Speaker 1>you like better this week?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go with Kareem Hunt. I think it comes

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<v Speaker 2>down to I like his touchdown equity. I really like

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<v Speaker 2>the Browns defense playing at home against the Chargers who

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<v Speaker 2>have kind of opened up the passing game a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more. They haven't really been as nearly run heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that doesn't mean that Dobbins is not involved, because

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<v Speaker 2>he's been seeing a lot of checkdown targets from Justin Herbert.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean Kareem Hunt has just been a full

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<v Speaker 2>blown workhorse, seeing a massive role in the red zone.

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<v Speaker 2>Chiefs have one of the highest supplied team totals on

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<v Speaker 2>the slate against the tam Bay Buccaneers who have been

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<v Speaker 2>destroyed by Atlanta Falcons running backs. Like So for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that I'm just gonna roll with cream Hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you got Kaream Hunt, you got to keep

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<v Speaker 2>rolling with him. Till Pacheco comes back. I think so

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<v Speaker 2>that's my play.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Fitz, what do you think about this one? Dobbins

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting in that the box score hasn't been quite

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<v Speaker 1>as strong since those first two weeks, but his snap

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<v Speaker 1>percentage has gone up since then. He had his highest

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<v Speaker 1>of the season eighty two percent snaps played in Week eight,

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<v Speaker 1>even as maybe some of the production has fallen off

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<v Speaker 1>a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>So he opened with those two hundred yard rushing games,

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<v Speaker 3>although they did come against the Panthers and the Raiders,

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<v Speaker 3>so they came into pretty easy matchups. In the five

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<v Speaker 3>game since, Dobbins has averaged under four yards per carry

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<v Speaker 3>in every game, at three point one six yards per

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<v Speaker 3>carry in that five game stretch, so I'm starting to

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<v Speaker 3>worry if he's running out of steam a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the first two games in that five game

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<v Speaker 3>stretch came against the Steelers and Chiefs, who have really

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<v Speaker 3>tough run defenses. It's not like a crime that any

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<v Speaker 3>running back would have a poor game against them.

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<v Speaker 2>But JK.

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<v Speaker 3>Dobbins had fourteen carries for forty yards against the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 3>two weeks ago. Against the Saints, whose run defense has

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<v Speaker 3>been a sieve all year, he just had seventeen carries

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<v Speaker 3>for fifty seven yards. It makes you wonder if we

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<v Speaker 3>are maybe going to get a full Commani Videl unveiling

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<v Speaker 3>at some point soon. As for Kareem Hunt, look our guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Debro just on Twitter mentioned that Kareem Hunt has eighty

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<v Speaker 3>four rushing attempts this year, no explosive runs. My response

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<v Speaker 3>to Deepro who cares? He's had more than twenty rushing

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<v Speaker 3>attempts in three straight games. He scored a touchdown in

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<v Speaker 3>three straight games, two touchdowns in one of those games.

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<v Speaker 3>Like man, just the guy's getting a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 3>He's getting all the goal line carries, and the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 3>wind up doing a lot of business at the goal

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<v Speaker 3>line every week. I yes, I totally agree with Eric's

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<v Speaker 3>And the touchdown equity is through the roof with Kareem Hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>Just play him so we both are all like Kareem

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<v Speaker 1>Hunt over JK. Dobbins. This week, let's go to another

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<v Speaker 1>running back debate, Bucky Irving versus Nick Chubb. So ericson

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<v Speaker 1>you already kind of talked a bit about Nick Chubb,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll let you take this one first as well.

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<v Speaker 2>See now you see you put on me on the

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<v Speaker 2>spot because now I feel like a hypocrite because I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I feel like I slightly towards Bucky.

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<v Speaker 1>It might have beens. I put together these debates before

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<v Speaker 1>you picked your players, so you could have just not

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<v Speaker 1>picked Nick Chubb.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then I would be going I'd be doing the

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<v Speaker 2>people into service by not choosing my right flag plan. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I took a low hanging fruit that was

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<v Speaker 2>rotten last week, which Yvonte Williams. So that was my penalty,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was how I enjoyed my Week eight. For me,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess Bucky. Bucky just looks so good. He just

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<v Speaker 2>looked so explosive. He had more catches and more reception

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<v Speaker 2>or more targets and receptions than Rashad White did last week.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, I do like Chubb this week. But I

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<v Speaker 2>feel I think, I think the the clock is going

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<v Speaker 2>to strike midnight. I'mbershod White very very soon. I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he's going to sustain these touchdowns that he's

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<v Speaker 2>got the last couple weeks. I know that he's involved

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<v Speaker 2>in the passing game as well, but he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>any rushing to fall back on, so I know it's

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<v Speaker 2>even a tough matchup for the Chiefs. I still think

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<v Speaker 2>Bucky Irving he's just he just looks so good. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think that he can do enough on the ground

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<v Speaker 2>and then be involved in the passing game. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that he's still the preferred red zone running back

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<v Speaker 2>in that backfield. So I give a I have them

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<v Speaker 2>right back to back. I do give a slightly towards Bucky,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in full PPR.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what do you think fine?

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<v Speaker 3>To make this call like this would have me tossing

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<v Speaker 3>and turning on Saturday nights before the game. I would

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<v Speaker 3>need that extra hour for daylight savings because I would

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<v Speaker 3>be losing sleep over this call. So I I think

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<v Speaker 3>I would probably start Chobb. Not an easy matchup against

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<v Speaker 3>the Chargers, but the Browns did give him. He's only

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<v Speaker 3>been back two weeks and he's already getting six team

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<v Speaker 3>carries last week, and we know he's going to get

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<v Speaker 3>the ball when they're inside the five yard line. As

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<v Speaker 3>tough a matchup as the Chargers are for running backs,

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<v Speaker 3>Bucky Irving is going against the Chiefs. That is a

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<v Speaker 3>skull and crossbones matchup for running backs. These have been

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<v Speaker 3>the two toughest matchups for running backs all year. The

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<v Speaker 3>Chiefs and the Chargers. Chiefs are allowing three point seven

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<v Speaker 3>fewer Fantasy points per game to running backs than the

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<v Speaker 3>Chargers are, so this is just a hellish, hell ish matchup.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't hate Bucky Irving's outlook this week, like we

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<v Speaker 3>did see him getting involved as a pass catcher last

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<v Speaker 3>week nine carries in a season high seven catches against

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<v Speaker 3>the Falcons. Reasonable to expect that the Bucks are going

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<v Speaker 3>to lean more on the running backs without Michael Irvin

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<v Speaker 3>or Michael Mike Evans and Chris Godwin and as Ericson mentioned, like,

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<v Speaker 3>Bucky has just looked terrific this season, So really tough call.

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<v Speaker 3>Very slightly in towards Chubb.

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<v Speaker 1>They are back to back in ECR for what it's worth,

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<v Speaker 1>RB twenty seven and RB twenty eight and half PPR

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<v Speaker 1>across the industry, so it's a very close one. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you Is it daylight saving time this weekend? Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Did Did you say that? Yes? I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. This is when we're we gained an hour

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<v Speaker 1>sleep though, right, correct? I spring forward, fallback? Okay, so

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 1>that's not so bad. All right, Let's go to some

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver debates. Amari Cooper versus Darnell Mooney. Fits will

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<v Speaker 1>start with you on this one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know they really close call, but I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go with the guy who's just the better player, the

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<v Speaker 3>guy with the longer track record of success, the guy

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<v Speaker 3>tied to the better quarterback. Give me Amari Cooper. It's

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 3>weird that Cooper gave us four catches for sixty six

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<v Speaker 3>yards and a touchdown on five targets in his first

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 3>game on just a thirty three percent snapchair and then

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<v Speaker 3>had this pullback last week when his snapchair rose to

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<v Speaker 3>fifty percent one catch, three yards. I do think he'll

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<v Speaker 3>probably get up to like seventy percent seventy five percent

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 3>with his snapchair this week. So yeah, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>just better quarterback and better player. I mean, I like

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<v Speaker 3>Darnell Mooney. This is a close call, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>with Amari.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think, Erickson?

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<v Speaker 2>I like Mooney. I like the game environment more between

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<v Speaker 2>Dallas in Atlanta and a dome. Maybe Dallas can do

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<v Speaker 2>something offensively to push the Kirk Cousins let offense. I

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 2>know that Mooney's not playing the Buccaneers, who he's basically

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 2>had eighty percent of his production against this season. But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Mooney's looked really good in this offense, and

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 2>he's a part of it. He's not just a sub

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 2>piece to a Drake London or a Kyle Pitts like

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<v Speaker 2>he is involved. He's on the field on every single snap,

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<v Speaker 2>and if this game shoots out, I think Mooney could

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<v Speaker 2>be a big part of it. And I think, like Cooper,

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 2>he has a lot of upside. Again, he can take

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<v Speaker 2>a eighty yard pass to the house just like Cooper can.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think right now we've just seen a little

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 2>bit more consistency from Darnell Mooney than Amari Cooper. Again,

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 2>obviously he's on a new team, so it's tough, but

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 2>I like Mooney the most.

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<v Speaker 1>This is another one where ECR has them back to back.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, why receiver twenty two Darnell Mooney, Why

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<v Speaker 1>receiver twenty three Marik Cooper. That's again in half PPR rankings.

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<v Speaker 1>How about another one, Khalil Shakir, So you had another

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Bill's receiver we're talking about here versus Josh Downs. Ericson

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>will start with you.

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 2>This time Josh Downs. Josh downs By I get I

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 2>don't let you here, but it's it's clearly Josh Downs.

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 2>It's I mean, you need to you have to start

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Josh Downs this week. I don't know how more I

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 2>can sell. I guess I can. I guess I can

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>present some numbers if that's something that we will be

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 2>entertained by. So Josh Downs target rate the season thirty

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 2>three percent, fourth in the NFL since Week three, twenty

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 2>six percent. Target share tenth overall in the NFL, with

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Joe Flacco averaging over nineteen PPR points per game, and

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 2>he's facing the Vikings defense who has allowed top five

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 2>in terms of fantasy points to wide receivers this season.

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 2>He is the target leader in this offense. And I'm

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 2>not saying it's because Michael Pittman is washing anyway. Michael

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Pittman again, a couple weeks ago, Pittman was gonna go

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 2>on injured reserve, So I don't know if he's one

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent healthy. I think that he's gutting it out

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 2>with this back injury, so I don't think that he's

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 2>at one hundred percent. But Josh Downs is benefiting from

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:00.959
<v Speaker 2>that in the biggest way because he's seeing a boatload

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 2>of targets. He's looked great. You should have had two

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 2>touchdowns last week with I mean he was producing with

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Anthony richardson right, so he was making highlight cashes. So yeah,

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Shakira has been so consistent and efficient, But I think

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 2>the upside play is still with Josh Downs because then

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about a lot of bills receivers this week.

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Who's gonna want me to pop off? I think Chakia

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 2>is the highest floor, but maybe Cooper or Coleman has

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 2>a higher ceiling. So I'm gonna go with Josh Downs

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 2>because think he has a floor and ceiling combination that

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 2>I like a lot.

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>This is one where these guys were actually a lot

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>closer when I was putting the outline together just yesterday,

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, ECR is kind of started to

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>catch up to the news about Joe Flackhan everything, and

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 1>now Josh Downs is actually a handful of spots higher.

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Shakiir's wide receiver twenty five Downs is inside the top twenty.

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 1>He's wide receiver nineteen in ECR as of right now

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>fits Downs or Shakiir? Who do you have higher? This week? Oh?

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 3>Interesting battle of two guys for whom enthusiasm has maybe

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 3>gotten to the irrational level In the fantasy community, and

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm getting a dose of that with ericson here. I mean,

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 3>I I You'll have to excuse me for not getting

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 3>the memo about Josh downs superstardom, the guy who just

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 3>had his second one hundred yard game of his career

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 3>and has five career touchdowns in twenty three career games.

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 3>I like Josh Dowins. I mean, he is a smooth

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 3>moving slot receiver. I think he's gonna be a really

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 3>solid player for the foreseeable future. But like I'm not

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 3>ready to, you know, think that he's going to be

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 3>the next Chris Godwin. Yet I'm just not there. And

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 3>Shaki nine catches for one hundred and seven yards against

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 3>the Seahawks last week on ten targets, but all of

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 3>those numbers were season highs. His ten targets, nine catches,

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and seven receiving yards. Hasn't had more than

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 3>seven targets or seventy two yards in any other game

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 3>this season, and he's competing for targets with the Mary Cooper,

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Kean Coleman, Dalton Kincaid. I do love me some shakiir

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Though he is very efficient, he has a ridiculous ninety

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 3>four point seven percent catch rate this year, averaging eleven

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 3>point one yards per target, and that's kind of carried

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 3>over from last year when he was really efficient. So yeah, man,

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 3>I just like all these questions I'm getting on Twitter

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 3>and Discord this week are just like everyone is over

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 3>the moon about Josh Downs. He's wide receiver eighteen in

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 3>ECR right now. I'm just not there yet. And I

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 3>get that the quarterback change is reason to be more

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 3>enthusiastic about these Colts receivers, all of them, not just Downs,

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 3>but Pittman, even Alec Pierce I think is like borderline flexworthy.

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 3>But that's the thing, Like Michael Pittman's ECR is wide

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 3>receiver thirty two. We're totally convinced Josh Downs is way

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 3>more valuable than Michael Pittman. Like, I'm not there yet,

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 3>And maybe you're right Erics, and maybe Pittman is banged

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 3>up and playing it much less than one hundred percent,

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 3>but I'm just I am not on board with all

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:52.479
<v Speaker 3>the Josh Downs enthusiasm. Certainly playable. I think you probably

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 3>are starting him this week, But if I had this choice,

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 3>I think I would play Shaki.

0:33:57.360 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Please don't tell me that this is don Tavin Wicks

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 2>two point zero all over again.

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 3>I like him, man, I just I don't. I don't

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 3>seem as a top twenty receiver this week.

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that's reasonable to say that maybe like wide receiver,

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, eighteen nineteen is too high in

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 1>terms of ECR. But it does seem like it's been

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty close to black and white this season. Of like,

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 1>if Joe Flacco is a starting quarterback, it's probably been

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>a smart decision to play Josh downs more often than not,

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>and when he's not the starting quarterback, more often than not,

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 1>it hasn't been that smart decision. So now that Flaco

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 1>is starting, I mean I do that you didn't really

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 1>dive too deep into it fits. But like I am

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 1>somewhat worried about this matchup too. Like we were talking

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 1>a bit before the show, Like on the one hand,

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe it's good, a good thing Anthony Richardson

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:42.760
<v Speaker 1>isn't kind of kind of get thrown to the wolves,

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.360
<v Speaker 1>so to speak, against this Vikings defense. But on the

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>other hand, Joe Flacco has is a statue. He has

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 1>no mobility whatsoever, and I'd be pretty concerned, like going

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>up against that Minnesota pass rush.

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that I mean, Minnesota is a hard place to play,

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.320
<v Speaker 3>and I know the Vikings have been generous to opposing

0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 3>wide receivers, but I don't think this is gonna be

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 3>an easy matchup for with Brian Flores finding ways to

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 3>dial up pressure and the Vikings are probably going to

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 3>be breathing fire after losing two straight games. So I

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 3>want to find a place. I want to find odds

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 3>on Joe Flacco to throw multiple interceptions in this game.

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.080
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0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:28.799
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<v Speaker 1>this past weekend, seeing the Ravens take on the Browns

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<v Speaker 1>it's getting to our rapid fire. Start sit decisions. Another

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<v Speaker 1>running back here, Rico Dawdle versus Javonte Williams. Fitz will

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<v Speaker 1>start with you here.

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<v Speaker 3>Javante by knows a tough matchup against the Ravens. We've

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<v Speaker 3>talked about how good they are against the run, but

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<v Speaker 3>as you have pointed out in the past, Worm, the

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<v Speaker 3>Ravens do give it up to running backs in the

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<v Speaker 3>passing game at times, and Javante is a very involved

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<v Speaker 3>pass catcher. Dowdell probably the better matchup against the Falcons,

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<v Speaker 3>but we just haven't gotten much production from the Dallas

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 3>backfield and Dowdell's usage is been inconsistent.

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<v Speaker 1>We kind of said, Fitz, if Gavante doesn't get it

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<v Speaker 1>done against Carolina, that we might be more out on him.

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<v Speaker 1>This is kind of going encounter to that, because he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really get it done against against Carolina at all,

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<v Speaker 1>and in a very tasty matchup. You know, seventeen carries

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 1>for forty four yards pretty abysmal. So you're you're comfortable

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:38.799
<v Speaker 1>kind of going back to the well with him.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Dowell showed up to the stadium last week and

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 3>was sick and didn't play, so he didn't get it

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 3>done either. But yeah, I just like, if you're starting Rico,

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 3>you're in pretty desperate times. I think it's just like,

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to start any of these Dallas running backs,

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 3>and like, who knows that they're going to try to

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 3>keep Dalvin Cook involved for some reason. I just I'm

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 3>kind of out on the boys running backs.

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Ericson what do you think?

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, if I didn't come up with this

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:06.640
<v Speaker 2>great Mike McDaniel coosum, I wasn't going to actually show

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 2>up dress as Uncle Rico in support of my guy

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 2>Rico Dawdell, who's going to take back the rb ons

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 2>thepot because he should have had it, but he had

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 2>basically his temperature was at one hundred and two point

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:18.439
<v Speaker 2>four degrees, exactly what he said. He tried to play,

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't let him play. I'm just gonna pretend last

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 2>week never happened. I don't care that Dalvin Cook was

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:25.879
<v Speaker 2>brought up I saw Dallas Dalvin Cook and Ezekiel Att

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 2>play and they were both horrible. So Rico Daddell has

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 2>had one strong game this year twenty carries against the

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh Steelers. It looked pretty good. I think that he's

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 2>going to get fed in this matchup. They're going to

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:38.799
<v Speaker 2>use him. The Falcons are a favorable matchup for running backs,

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:41.320
<v Speaker 2>and I think, like Javonte, Rico dadd was also involved

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 2>in the passing game. So I know that we're frustrated

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 2>with Dawdle because he didn't play last week and he

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 2>put some Anders in a tough spot because it happened

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:50.840
<v Speaker 2>so late, so you had to make a quick pivot.

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:53.800
<v Speaker 2>But I think that this is a potential breakout spot

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 2>for Rico Daddell if he ends up getting the workload,

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.879
<v Speaker 2>which by all intensive purposes from the coach speak from

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Mike McCarthy talking him up for we' seen from of

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 2>the other Dallas Cowboys running backs it should be. So again,

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm sick of this Javonte inconsistency. You can't trust him.

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.359
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter what matchup it is, He's up and down.

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Give you Dotell, all right?

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 1>How about our wide receiver here Courtland Sutton sticking with

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>that Denver game versus Jacoby Myers. Ericson will start with

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:18.120
<v Speaker 1>you this time.

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I like both guys kind of in that wide receiver

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 2>three range. I think that I'm cool with just the

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Myers consistency that what he's been able to do. The

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.240
<v Speaker 2>Bengals defense have been really bad against the number two receivers,

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:31.319
<v Speaker 2>and again, I think Myers is still the number two

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 2>on this team behind Rock Bowers. So I think Myers

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 2>is just going to be consistent. He's gonna have five catches,

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:39.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna go over fifty yards, and I'm cool with that,

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.320
<v Speaker 2>especially in a full PPR, whereas Sutton you're taking a

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 2>little bit more risk. I know that the matchup is good.

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Against the Baltimore Ravens, we saw a big body receiver

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 2>like Cedric Tillman obviously take advantage of some of these

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 2>smaller Ravens corners, but it still is bo Nix on

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 2>the road in Baltimore where you could see, okay, things

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.480
<v Speaker 2>could go Harrywire potentially, and sometimes bo Nicks isn't the

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 2>most accurate quarterback when he's not playing the Carolina Panthers,

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 2>So that does concerned me. I think Sutton has the

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:03.400
<v Speaker 2>higher ceiling for sure. So if you're aiming for I

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:05.720
<v Speaker 2>need to score maxim amount of points, I think Sutton

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 2>is to play, but in full PPR or you need

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 2>more of a floor play. I'm just going to take Jacoby,

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 2>who's been basically very very consistent since the team has

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:15.720
<v Speaker 2>basically not had DeVante Adams.

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 1>It does seem like the Ravens secondary is maybe going

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 1>to be healthier this week than it was last week.

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:23.799
<v Speaker 1>I normally I would be all over Sutton in this one.

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I would like. Rookie quarterbacks in Baltimore against John Harbot

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>tend to struggle pretty mightily. So that is kind of

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 1>in the back of my mind as getting me away

0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>from Sutton a bit. Everything else points to Sutton, in

0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>my opinion fits. What do you think about this one?

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Courtland Sutton or Jacobe Myers.

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh give me the guy going up against the Ravens

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 3>pass defense. It's a sieve, right worm. Have you watched

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 3>the Baltimore Ravens play football lately?

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:45.799
<v Speaker 2>Now?

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Just kidding, So, I actually think Ericson framed this pretty

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 3>well as far as the sort of risk reward outlooks

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 3>for these two guys, And maybe you let that sort

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 3>of determine who you start. If you're making this decision,

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:00.880
<v Speaker 3>if you're a favorite, maybe you want to go with

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Jacoby Myers, who probably does have the sturdier floor here.

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:07.000
<v Speaker 3>He's going to get somewhere in the range of seven

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 3>to ten targets, you would think, and you know, good

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:12.479
<v Speaker 3>chance of getting you the fifty yards. Ericson is talking

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 3>about Sutton a little more boom or bust. I mean

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 3>we've seen games or what that Saints game where he

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 3>didn't get a single target even though the Broncos passing

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 3>game is clicking that night. But I mean he does

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:27.799
<v Speaker 3>have a much higher ceiling. I think. So maybe if

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 3>you're a little bit of an underdog and you need

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 3>to land a haymaker to win, like Sutton is the

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 3>guy you're going to go with here.

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 1>If you're actually making this decision, I would make it

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 1>based on the like who is actually playing for the

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Ravens in this one. If Marlin Humphrey who was limited

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 1>in practice on Wednesday, and Nate Wiggins, who was also

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 1>limited in practice on Wednesday, if they're both back, I

0:41:47.960 --> 0:41:49.839
<v Speaker 1>think I would get away from Sutton. But if they're

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 1>both out or still seem pretty limited, or if just

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 1>when it was out, then I think I'd be wanting

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 1>to play Sutton against this defense for sure. Let's do

0:41:56.680 --> 0:42:00.840
<v Speaker 1>some flex debates here. How about Tank Bigsby against Dj

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Moore fits What do you think about that one?

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Dj Moore? I know he's been disappointing. He has had

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.520
<v Speaker 3>thirty under thirty receiving yards in three of his last

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 3>four games, but there are no doubts that Moore is

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 3>an excellent player in the matchup against the Cardinals is

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 3>a really good one, Like, I think you just have

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 3>to play him. Tank Bigsby is proving that he's a

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 3>really good runner, but I just can never feel entirely

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 3>comfortable with him in my starting lineup playing on a

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:29.720
<v Speaker 3>bad team when he is a running back who doesn't

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 3>catch passes, Like if they fall behind by multiple scores,

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 3>the floor could just drop out from Tank Bigsby because

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:39.320
<v Speaker 3>they're going to have to throw to catch up, and

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:41.759
<v Speaker 3>Bigsby just isn't involved in the passing game, and that

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 3>could well happen with the injury depleted Jaguars going into

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 3>Philadelphia to play the Eagles, who have allowed the eighth

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 3>fewest rushing yards to running back so I would play

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Dj Moore here.

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Who do you prefer? Erickson?

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree dj Moore. I know that he's been disappointing,

0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 2>but he's a boom and bust guy and it's a

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:00.959
<v Speaker 2>favorable matchup. I think that this is potential bloom spot

0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 2>for him, and there's a chance that Eten comes back,

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 2>and to fits his point about Tank Bigsby, when they've

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:09.240
<v Speaker 2>used him in the passing game, he's looked bad. That's

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:11.440
<v Speaker 2>the other issue too, where he's dropping passes, it's going

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:13.720
<v Speaker 2>off of his face mask like they're setting up screens

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 2>for him, but it's not turning out into big plays.

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 2>So as much as we'd like to say, hey, maybe

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 2>they'll getting more involved in the receiving game, he's not

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 2>proving that he necessarily deserves those touches. Again as a rusher,

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 2>he's been very affected this year. But I think that

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:27.839
<v Speaker 2>Eten goes back to at least that pass catching role

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 2>if he plays. And Doug Peterson said earlier this week

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 2>that he's optimistic that ETM will play, but he said

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:35.839
<v Speaker 2>that before. But either way, the Ernest Johnson would also

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:36.800
<v Speaker 2>be in that role potentially.

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Ericsons sticking with you, Rashad White or Calvin Ridley this week.

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go with Calvin Ridley. I think that

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 2>he is the ceiling play here and I like chasing

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 2>ceiling in my flex I said earlier, I think that

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 2>this is when the strike or the clock strikes midnight.

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 2>For Rashad White. I don't know if he can continue

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:54.799
<v Speaker 2>to run his hot on these receiving touchdowns. Maybe he can,

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 2>but this matchup against the Chiefs is just is absolutely

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 2>brutal for running backs for the Buccaneers, especially if he's

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 2>not looking nearly as great as Bucketeer. But I don't

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:05.480
<v Speaker 2>know what the touch floor for Rashad White is in

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 2>with Calvin Ridley. Look, he's gonna get man man coverage

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 2>against Chrisiganzales, so if he's ready to win, then he

0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:13.919
<v Speaker 2>can have a mount monster game here. And if Mason

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Ruff's gonna hypertget him again, the He's gonna have a

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:17.799
<v Speaker 2>lot of opportunities. So I think really is much more

0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 2>boom or bust, because if he just gets out played

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:22.759
<v Speaker 2>by Gonzales, then he's gonna not play very well. He's

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 2>not gonna put up production. But it only takes one

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 2>for him to beat Christigan Zalez Man to man, and

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 2>you've got an ad R touchdown on your hands. So

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm usually chase the ceiling with Calvin Ridley fits.

0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 3>Really, I have set up my encampment, encampment in the

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:39.399
<v Speaker 3>pumpkin patch, and I leaving until the great Pumpkin Calvin

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 3>Ridley shows up, all.

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Right, if it's how about Alexander Madison or Michael Pittman

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Junior Madison.

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 3>Over the month of October, Madison has averaged sixteen point

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:53.000
<v Speaker 3>five carries, three point eight catches, and twenty point three

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 3>touches a game. The usage has been terrific. It hasn't

0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 3>necessarily led to a lot of Fantasy points over the

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 3>last month, but he does have a pretty good matchup

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:07.279
<v Speaker 3>against the Bengals, whose run defense ranks twenty fifth in DVA. Yeah,

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:09.800
<v Speaker 3>when we were talking about downs earlier, like I just

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:12.360
<v Speaker 3>that was the other thing where you mentioned it, Like

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't like this matchup in Minnesota for the Colts

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 3>very much. Like I have kind of a bad vibe

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 3>on the Colts offense for this week, which means Flacco

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 3>is probably going to throw for four hundred and fifty

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:26.520
<v Speaker 3>yards and five touchdowns. But man, I I kind of

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 3>want to stay away from the Colts passing game this week.

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Erickson, I think it's kind of like a floor ceiling play.

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:37.879
<v Speaker 2>So Madison is a running back, I think the touch

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 2>the touches are secure with him with the floor. So

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the thing with Pittman, I do kind of worry about

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 2>this injury thing with him, Like he hasn't looked necessarily right.

0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Even last week he had six targets evey one catch, right,

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 2>So if he's one hundred percent healthy, if Downs is

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 2>the guy that's seeing more targets, then you could see

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:55.919
<v Speaker 2>Pittman potentially not delivering even in a matchup that looks

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 2>good on paper, but as you guys have outlined, there

0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:00.440
<v Speaker 2>are a couple potential holes against Brian floor Is in

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:02.759
<v Speaker 2>this defense on the road. So I think Alex on

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Madison and good match against the Bengals. Maddison has been

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:08.359
<v Speaker 2>scoring touchdowns at a pretty solid rate. He couldn't find

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:09.560
<v Speaker 2>the en zone at all last year and now he

0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 2>can't stop finding the end zone this year. So I

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:13.399
<v Speaker 2>know his arts for care was really bad last week,

0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 2>but that's because half of his carriers are coming at

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 2>the five yard line, so you're never gonna have a

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 2>strong guards per Cary, and I think that goes back

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 2>to the Cream Hunt point you brought up Fits, where yeah,

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't have an explosive runs because well, he's five

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 2>yards away from the end zone every time he runs

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 2>the ball, so he can't get any explosive runs. So

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:31.440
<v Speaker 2>h yeah, I think it's probably gonna be Madison for

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 2>me as well.

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Last flex one Xavier Worthy or Cad Aughten and fits.

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:37.799
<v Speaker 1>You have talked in the past about how you are

0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 1>not a start tight ends in the flex spot type

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:43.760
<v Speaker 1>of guy, but Aughten has looked so good and obviously

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:45.440
<v Speaker 1>he has such a clear path to targets right now

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:48.440
<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to throw in a question with him included.

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:50.880
<v Speaker 1>So Kate Otten or Xavier Worthy fits.

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll toss that personal guideline out the window for

0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:55.239
<v Speaker 3>this one and go with Kate Ott, And I mean,

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:58.439
<v Speaker 3>for better or worse, he is the Buccaneers top pass

0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:01.920
<v Speaker 3>catcher now and if you're Worthy has gone over fifty

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:06.800
<v Speaker 3>receiving yards once this season. So Kate otten ericson.

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:10.320
<v Speaker 2>I put myself in Fitz's mindset for this question because

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:12.479
<v Speaker 2>I love XAVIERA. Worthy, but I was like, what would

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Fitz do as the higher ranked Fantasy pros analyst, he

0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 2>would say Kate at and so I'm also gonna say

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Kate Auton.

0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, let's go to a quarterback here, Bo

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Nicks versus my guy as John McVay againis can't do

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:30.840
<v Speaker 1>the impression Matthew Stafford, Stafford or Nicks ericson who'd you like? Well?

0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:33.279
<v Speaker 2>Can you tell me are you gonna let Stafford throw

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:34.840
<v Speaker 2>the ball in the red zone? Are you gonna just

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:37.359
<v Speaker 2>give it to Karen Williams? Because that's that's ultimately what's

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:39.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna determine this. I think Stafford is just way safer.

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:41.839
<v Speaker 2>I think both guys have good matchups. But look, there's

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:43.719
<v Speaker 2>always a chance that Boonix in terms of back into

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 2>a pumpkin as a rookie quarterback playing on the road

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:48.200
<v Speaker 2>against Baltimore if their defense gets healthier. I know Nix

0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:50.800
<v Speaker 2>has the rushing that Stafford doesn't have. But with Stafford,

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 2>with all his weapons back, I feel like he has

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:55.800
<v Speaker 2>such a high floor. His passing yard is always gonna be.

0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:57.839
<v Speaker 2>There's gonna throw for two hundred and thirty yards at least,

0:47:58.040 --> 0:47:59.440
<v Speaker 2>and then he's gonna throw a couple of touchdowns. As

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:01.719
<v Speaker 2>long as car and does the score three rushing touchdowns,

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:03.839
<v Speaker 2>so I have the rank back to back. I think

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 2>both guys are viable this week, but I think I'm

0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 2>going to take the safe route with Stafford.

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:10.960
<v Speaker 1>And Nicks has regularly been like a very viable starting

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:14.920
<v Speaker 1>fantasy quarterback, but I worry about him this one, even

0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:17.640
<v Speaker 1>again with the stay of the Ravens defense, Like, I

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:19.680
<v Speaker 1>just I don't know that they're going to let him

0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 1>run the way he has been and I don't know

0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:23.719
<v Speaker 1>that he I feel pretty confident that he's not going

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:26.200
<v Speaker 1>to pass enough to be ahead of somebody like Stafford,

0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:28.560
<v Speaker 1>who now gets his full allotment of receivers back. So

0:48:28.719 --> 0:48:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you on Stafford. Fits do you do you

0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 1>agree making a clean sweeperor do you like Bnick.

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:36.400
<v Speaker 3>No clean sweep? And I am echoing your point on

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 3>this worm, Like, I know, the matchup against the Ravens

0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:42.800
<v Speaker 3>looks good. Baltimore has given up the third most fantasy

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 3>points to quarterbacks, but man, like I have a hard

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:48.320
<v Speaker 3>time getting my head around the idea of a rookie

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 3>quarterback going into Baltimore and that's somehow being a good

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 3>matchup for him, Like, I just don't buy that, even

0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 3>though bo Nicks has actually been QB four in fantasy

0:48:57.680 --> 0:49:00.960
<v Speaker 3>points per game since Week five, like he's been terrific lately.

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:04.560
<v Speaker 3>But look, man, I realize this is not your typical

0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:08.000
<v Speaker 3>Baltimore Ravens defense, like Terrell Suggs and Ed Reed are

0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 3>not going to be playing this weekend. But still, man like,

0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:12.239
<v Speaker 3>Baltimore is a really tough place for a rookie QB

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 3>to play, and Stafford is like, he is going to

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:19.319
<v Speaker 3>give you a safe floor and QB one upside as

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:21.920
<v Speaker 3>long as he has both Cooper Cup and Pokinakua at

0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:25.360
<v Speaker 3>his disposal. And oh, by the way, Devon Witherspoon didn't

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:28.320
<v Speaker 3>practice for Seattle on Wednesday. If he doesn't play like

0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:30.239
<v Speaker 3>Stafford could really light it up this week.

0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I tend to not that they never do

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:34.719
<v Speaker 1>anything against the Ravens, but again, a team like the

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Ravens or the Eagles, a team that faces a mobile

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:40.520
<v Speaker 1>quarterback in practice every day, I tend to like that

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:43.040
<v Speaker 1>defense going up against other mobile quarterbacks. They're not gonna

0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:45.320
<v Speaker 1>be surprised by anything they see. Like obviously Bonix is

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 1>not the rusher that Lamar is, so like, I just

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:51.120
<v Speaker 1>tend to co into those those matchups with a bit

0:49:51.160 --> 0:49:53.600
<v Speaker 1>more confidence than I would for a defense that doesn't

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:56.359
<v Speaker 1>face it every day. How about a tight end here,

0:49:56.640 --> 0:49:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Mark Andrews or Tuckerkraft. I picked these, dude, because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like every single week this season I have asked

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<v Speaker 1>about one of these guys, It's either been Andrews versus

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<v Speaker 1>someone or Tucker Craft for someone, and so I figured,

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<v Speaker 1>why not put them together, you know, head to head

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<v Speaker 1>against each other. Obviously, crafters a bit of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>question marks around in the quarterback play that he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have this week going up against the Lions. Mark Andrews

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<v Speaker 1>has been catching touchdowns lately at a really encouraging rate,

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<v Speaker 1>but hasn't been getting the yardage or the usage. They

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<v Speaker 1>now have added Deontay Johnson. We'll see what he does

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<v Speaker 1>in Week one and what that means for Andrews. These

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<v Speaker 1>guys are also back to back tight end eleven, tight

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<v Speaker 1>end twelve. Most of the guys ahead of them, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're starting most behind I think are question marks.

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<v Speaker 1>So I figured, why not throw kind of the two

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<v Speaker 1>stars of this section this season against each other ericson

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Andrews or Tucker Craft this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's Tucker Craft. I think he's just been

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<v Speaker 2>more consistent throughout the entire season. The only way I

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<v Speaker 2>would switch off it is if Malik Willis is starting

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback for the Packers.

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<v Speaker 1>Craft is ted in twelve and ECR by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Andrews is eleven. So, like I said, they are back

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<v Speaker 1>to back fits. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Ericson nailed it. Craft is a pretty easy call

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<v Speaker 3>if Love plays. But as of now, I'm ranking Craft

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<v Speaker 3>as if Love is not gonna play. I've gottt like

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<v Speaker 3>tight End seventeen. Like if Love doesn't play in it's

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<v Speaker 3>Malik Willis, I think you have to play Andrews.

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<v Speaker 1>calls contest fits your on running backs this week.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Vikings are going to take the Colts

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<v Speaker 3>to the woodshed this weekend. So Aaron Jones gets into

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<v Speaker 3>the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the other side of this game. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take Josh Downs and spit in the face of fits

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<v Speaker 1>and say you are row. It is a Josh Downs.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone got this Josh Down Superstar memo except me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I also like, you fix your facts, come on, boom.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think he's maybe a touch over ranked in

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<v Speaker 1>ECR having said that if Joe Flaggo is playing, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to have Josh Downs in my lineups, and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to pick an obvious guy. So maybe maybe

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:14.360
<v Speaker 1>this was an obvious guy according to ECR, but in

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<v Speaker 1>my mind it was a good pick. Here. So Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Jones at running back, josh Awns at receiver, Ericson Hew,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have a tight end?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even realize we all picked guys from the

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<v Speaker 2>same game.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that Jackson actually yeah, wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Tj Howkinson first game back, he's the coaches said he's

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna be a snap count, so who knows if

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<v Speaker 2>that's real or not. But Colt's will the second most

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<v Speaker 2>catch to tight ends the season, third most touchdowns. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>back in the Hawk's Nest baby TJ. Howkinson touchdown, So we.

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<v Speaker 1>Will be playing paying very close attention to that game

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing how we do in that.

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<v Speaker 2>One three three touchdown parlay action coys.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have what the odds to be on that

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<v Speaker 1>probably pretty decent. A quicker binder everybody to say goodbye

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<v Speaker 1>you're on your favorite Halloween slash scary movie ericson what

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<v Speaker 1>is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Hocus Focus okus spoke, I had a.

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<v Speaker 3>Feeling that's where you're gonna go with it fits gotta

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<v Speaker 3>go with the original Halloween. John Carpenter, Michael Myers.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not a horror movie guy, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>really like Scream, so I'll go with the first scream

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<v Speaker 1>from nineteen ninety six. I believe all right, we'll wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up there. Thank you everybody for tuning in. Enjoy Halloween,

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy week nine, and hopefully you make some good decisions

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<v Speaker 3>I even found a Maroon shirt ericson from a five

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<v Speaker 3>K I ran like seven years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it really says people can't say, but you

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<v Speaker 2>can just say. It says all Hail to the Commanders

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<v Speaker 2>on the shirt.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead of Mother's Day. Five K