1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: Argue about it Cold the Fan, It eat seven seven 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: three three seven sixties six sixty six powered by super 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: Book Sports visits super book dot com. That's the thing. 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: For the first top of the long time. There is 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: no drama with the Giants. There was a whole lot 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: of drama, lot of drama, a lot of losses. Not anymore. 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: I take you in TIERN on the fan. What's going on? 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: It's one or two here on this Wednesday? So is 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: it Wednesday? It's Wednesday? Take. We're joined now by the 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: the outstanding general manager for the New York Giants. His 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: name is Joe Shane and I, Joe, I gotta tell you, man, 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: everything that I watched, everything that we've discussed for years, 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 1: Take and I I mean, the Giants are broken. The 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: Giants finances are a wreck, the Giants are ravaged, and 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: you and Dave old Waltzon here in bang it's all fixed. 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: How the hell did you get the sixth and two? Joe? Uh, 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: The coaches are doing a great job doing They really 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: did a good job. And I said, you know, there's 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: always always goes back to the players, and um, you know, 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: the preparation throughout the week. Again, we we've got a 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: really good group of guys on this roster and a 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: good coaching staff, and you've seen how we're winning games. 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: We get into the fourth quarter and we find a 24 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: way and you know, the really resilient group. And I'm 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: proud of him. You know, we're six and two. We 26 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: got a long way to go. We still got nine games. 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: But um, I'm happy the way the guys are fighting 28 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: weekend and week out, in the way there they're preparing 29 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: and the results are showing up on Sundays. Oh, there's 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean, one game at the top, Giants 31 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: fans are energized, the stadium sounds different. It's it's been 32 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: really good. And I get it. You guys are in 33 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: the early stage. So you know, I'm messing around what 34 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: I say that you guys are making it look easy, 35 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: because clearly it is not. But listen, Joe, any any 36 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: time you take a job, whether it was me and 37 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: Tiki coming to f A n you coming to the Giants, 38 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: like there's a built an expectation of of what's required 39 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: to get to where you want to get And is 40 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: it is it? Even with the six wins, did you 41 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: think and I know it's not easy so I want 42 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: to fraend this the right way because it's not easy. 43 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: But did you think you're gonna take you lumps this year? 44 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: You have to think that on some level, Joe. Yeah, 45 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: I've said it before. I didn't think the cupboard was bear. 46 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: I mean there there were some there are some talented 47 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 1: players that were that are on our roster that we're 48 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: here before we arrived, and then we're getting, um, you know, 49 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: pretty good production out of the draft class. Unfortunately, uh, 50 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: some injuries have probably um hurt some of the guys 51 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: who would be playing more. We got Cordell Flats coming back, 52 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: but Darren Beavers had a really good training camp you know, 53 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: was competing to start at linebacker. So UM, I think 54 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: a combination is some of the players that were here, um, 55 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, some of the guys that we signed in 56 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: the off season, and then some of the guys we've 57 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: signed since the season has started, um and have really 58 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: contributed a lot. And I said before, like you never 59 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: really know what the team is gonna be. It to me, 60 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: it usually takes four to five games to really figure 61 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: out who you are as a team and who your 62 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: players are gonna be. And um, you know, I think 63 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: after three or four games, we kind of know who 64 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: we are where resilient group. We're gonna fight and again 65 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: have I just think it's a team. They play really 66 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: good together in complimentary football. We don't turn it over. 67 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: We get to the fourth court order and you know, 68 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: sometimes we make more players than the other team. And 69 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: that's that's the recipe that we've been successful with this. 70 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: It feels like the players are are well prepared. Wh's 71 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: gonna bring me to my next you know question? Here 72 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: for you jail. We'll get into all the other stuff. 73 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: Why not to deal with a deadline? What about oh 74 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: b J? What about Daniel Jones and say Kwon Barkley, 75 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: et cetera? Going forward? But this staff that you built 76 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: is really spectacular, right, I know, Coach Dabele you've you've 77 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: known and Mike Cafco you did not. Maybe you did. 78 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: Actually I don't know if you knew Mike Kafka, but 79 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: he's young, but he's really energetic. The play calling, the 80 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: diversity and what they put in has been it's been 81 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: awesome to watch. It gives you a chance wink is 82 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: I mean it goes without saying you got lucky with 83 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: wake right because Baltimore decided to part ways with him. 84 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: But the staff that you put together is is job 85 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: number one and you nailed that out of the shoot. 86 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: How did that all come together for you? Yeah, I 87 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: think I think it's very important, um, across the board, 88 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: whether it's my pro scouting director, you know, a pro 89 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: scout where it doesn't, there's a standard set throughout the 90 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: organization and you need to meet that standard, regardless of 91 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: what's defensive coordinator, where you are in the organization, you 92 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: need to meet meet that standard. And UM, that's the 93 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: expectation around here now. And I think, uh, Dave's did 94 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: a great job, you know, hiring a staff. We brought 95 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: a couple of people over from day from a Buffalo 96 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: and then you know, he went through a thorough process. 97 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys heard the story, but 98 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: as people were hired, so you know it was Shay 99 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: tier In rd quarterback coach, and Bobby Johnson and then 100 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: as you know, Jerome Henderson was already here. Those guys 101 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: would sit in on every interview. It probably got pretty 102 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: tedious for them. But uh, by the end, you know, 103 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: say it's Wink. Wink may have had eight coaches and 104 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: they're sitting in on his interview and Dave's would go 105 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: through and he would ask the coaches what they thought 106 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: and they would rank. Hey, these three courts, you know, 107 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator candidates. What did you guys thinking why? And 108 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: then okay, once Wink was brought on board, Okay, now 109 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: we need a inside linebacker coach. Now Wink was added 110 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: to the interview process. So, uh, it was a unique 111 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: interview process the way Dave All did and he kept 112 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: wasn't just him, it wasn't just me. Um. But again, 113 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: it was a it was a growing list of coaches 114 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: as we hired the staff again to making sure everybody 115 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: could you know, want to have the football knowledge and intellect, 116 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: but also be a good teammate. And uh, Dave's and 117 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: I had had these conversations before. You know, would you take, 118 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: let's just say tight end coach for example, this guy 119 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: is an excellent tight end coach, like maybe best in 120 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: the league. But he's a jerk. He's not a great 121 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: team guy. Um, you know, he just he's there's some 122 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: things he doesn't get along, play with others, you know, 123 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Or a guy that's a he's a 124 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: solid tight end coach. But he's a great teammate. Uh, 125 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: he's always pulling in the right direction. We know what 126 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: his weaknesses are or his deficiencies as a coach that 127 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: we can compensate for. Let's take that guy, because that's 128 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: gonna be better chemistry amongst the staff throughout the building. 129 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: And let's roll with that guy that's gonna be a 130 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: good teammate and that you're gonna enjoy come to work 131 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: with every day. That's also has a very good skill set. 132 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: So you know, those were some some of the qualities 133 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: that we were looking for as we went through the 134 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: process hiring, you know, not just the coaches, but some 135 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: of the personnel hires as well. And um, he did. 136 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: He hit a home run. He's got a good mix 137 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: of experience on the staff and also youth, some some 138 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: young developmental up and coming coaches. Um that you know, 139 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 1: whether it's a quarterback coach or coordinator. You know, Daves 140 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: has done that before, so he can help develop a 141 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: Mike Kafgar shape, Tyranny or you know his coach receivers. 142 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: And then you know, wink, he's been in playoff games. 143 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: He's called defensive games in this league for a while. 144 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: He's been in um some big time games. He's been 145 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: in fourth quarters where you've got to have a stop. 146 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: He's done all that stuff before. So having that peace 147 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: of mind that we can handle the defense, um daves 148 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: can manage you know, all three phases and you know, 149 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: have input on those three phases and manage the game. 150 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: I think it's been very important. And you know, the 151 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: staffs in an excellent job. I think you know, it's 152 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: really interesting Joe, that you did. You lay it out 153 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: that way about you know, not being a jerk and 154 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: you've got to be a good teammate and you make 155 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: up for weaknesses elsewhere because that that's kind of the 156 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: m O I get from the team. All Right, there's 157 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: there we know that there's some deficiency's in certain spots 158 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: on this team, but it feels like there's always someone 159 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: to cover or there's always someone to make up for 160 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: the mistake. There's always someone it's gonna make the great 161 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: play that he has to And it's why you are 162 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: sitting where you are. So while it was a philosophy 163 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: with coaching, it's really the mantra or the character of 164 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: the entire team that you have, including the players. Yeah, 165 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: that's a great point. I I really haven't thought of 166 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: it through through that way, but you're right. I mean, 167 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: there's we have had some injuries and it's been the 168 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: next man up. And again that's that's not only a 169 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: testament to the players and you know when it's their 170 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to take advantage of it, but you know the 171 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: coaching staff preparing those players so when they do have 172 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: to go out there and play, they know what they're doing, 173 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: they can execute at a high level. And you know 174 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: a lot of those players whether it was you know, 175 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: the lack of finances that we had in the off season, 176 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: and you know, we're signing some of these guys that 177 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: you know VSB deals, you know the minimum deals that 178 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: maybe looked over are are exceeding maybe you know what 179 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: they're getting paid or what their contracts are, and playing 180 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: at a high level for us. So yeah, it's it's 181 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: a combination of all those things. So we're going to 182 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: Joe Shane, the Giants general manager, and alone with Dave's ashamed, 183 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: you guys are fitting perfectly. You know what I love 184 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: about your coach too, is that he's being himself. A 185 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: lot of times, we hire somebody in this city and 186 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: they think they've got to change. It's New York. It's bigger. 187 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: This guy's out there with a ratty sweatshirt, dropping f bombs, 188 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: firing up cigars after wins, giving them, you know, going 189 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: nuts with the fans. The energy he projects is awesome. 190 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: And before we get to the to the decision at 191 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: the deadline, and we're definitely gonna get into that, I 192 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: have to ask you, I said, if I get Joe 193 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: on the s, I gotta ask him this question. And 194 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: it goes back to the first game, the Malaise, which 195 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: obviously predated you guys that swallowed up this franchise. I'm 196 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: watching this game with Tennessee and as stunned as we 197 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: all were, and we loved it that you guys went 198 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: for the two. I wonder on some level Joe was 199 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: that a predetermined move, Like did da will go into 200 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: that game? And he said to himself, like, man, if 201 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: I get a chance to shake this franchise up and 202 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: although send like a jolt of energy that it's a 203 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: different day. I'm doing something that's unconventional. I'm doing something 204 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: I might get criticized for him, but I'm doing something 205 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: to show everybody there's a new sheriff in town. Is 206 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: there anything there that makes sense or were my reaching? Yeah? No, 207 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean I think there's a time and a place 208 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,599 Speaker 1: to be aggressive. And I you know, Dave's is not 209 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: afraid to be aggressive at all, and he tries to 210 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: preach that to our staff on a weekly basis. And 211 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: there'll be times where I'm like, gosh, we're aggressive in 212 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: that situation. Maybe we should have just been conservative. And 213 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: you know, he's like, hey, I can't pick and choose 214 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: you if I tell these guys to be aggressive, let's 215 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: go be aggressive. I can't cherry pick where I want 216 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: them to be aggressive. And I after I told him 217 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: be aggressive. So I think that's kind of his mantra. 218 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: I think in that game, the way the evan flow 219 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: of the game, I think that was the right decision. 220 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: And we talked about it afterwards. You know, up in 221 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: the press box, I was saying the same thing. If 222 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: we score here, we gotta go for two. Just the 223 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: way they were playing, the way we were playing, I think, 224 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, that was our best chance to go ahead 225 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: and win the game. And um, yeah, he's not afraid 226 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: to be aggressive. And like you said, he he is 227 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: who he is. He was um. You know again, he's 228 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: he's He's been around some really good coaches, Nick Saban, 229 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, Sean McDermott. You know, comes from Andy Retreat, 230 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: and the biggest thing for for him is he's being himself. 231 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: You know, he's not trying to be somebody. He's not. 232 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: He's taking little pieces from each stop along his coaching 233 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: career and implementing those um that he that he likes 234 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: and some of the stuff he's seen. He's like, hey, 235 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: this is how we did in the past. It didn't 236 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: work or I didn't like how it went over. We 237 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: gotta make sure we do it this way. So he 238 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: so obviously fits. So Joe, we know even on the 239 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: phones be because told he was dealt. So we know 240 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: the phones were ringing, and I'm sure that you were 241 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: calling some people up. We know you didn't make a 242 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: trade yesterday. How close because we talked about it for 243 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: a week or two. Should the Giants go out and 244 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: get a big receiver? We know the names Brandon Cooks 245 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: was out there, some others as well. How close were 246 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: you guys to make it a big deal for a 247 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver? Yeah, just the value never lined up. I 248 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: mentioned it yesterday. You know, some of these players that 249 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: again that were identified you know by media and such, 250 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: and you know recent trade talks are some of the 251 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: guys based on contract and the structure in the years 252 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: that we reached out to in August, we knew we 253 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: may have a need at at certain positions and um, 254 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 1: you know, receiver as a position we called around about you. 255 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the landscape of our receiver position really 256 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: hasn't changed drastically. You know, losing Sheep hurt Um, he 257 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: was playing well for his great energy, good leader. Um 258 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: love chef to death, so that was that was a 259 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: big blow. But um, we were looking for some of 260 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: these players since August. We've had these conversations and again 261 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: I said it yesterday at press conference. Part of our 262 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: job is to you know, you gotta put a value 263 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: on a player, and you set the value. And we 264 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: talked to our pro scouts, you know are my assistant 265 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: GM director of Pro director of player personnel. We talked 266 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: through what's the value, you know, what's the contract structure, 267 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: what what does it look like? How how much will 268 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: it really impact our roster? And you set the value, 269 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: You make phone calls and if it lines up then um, 270 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, you go for it, but you know, you 271 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: just don't want to shop hungry and and make a 272 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: bad deal that you regret. You know, in the moment um, 273 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: you're always gonna have the short term and the long 274 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: term and and UM in mind. And I think a 275 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, a lot of people have 276 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: been mentioned in the sever and you know, one receiver 277 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: got traded yesterday, UM that can play this year obviously 278 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: really did so I mean that kind of and you 279 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: see what the value was on that player with that 280 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: has one year remaining on his contract, and what was 281 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: what the compensation was, So you know, you just you 282 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: gotta take that all into account. And again, we we 283 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: had plenty of conversations. I wouldn't say anything, you know, 284 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: became real close just because the value um of some 285 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: of the teams that we were talking to was just 286 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: a little bit out of whack for what we were 287 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: comfortable with. Yeah, they're trying to rob you, and that's 288 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: not worth it. I've had this conversation with you before, Joe. 289 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: You gotta be patient and you gotta think forward to 290 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: what the cap is gonna offer you next year. As 291 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: this as this team UM continues to grow and develop, 292 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: and but let's face it, Joe, you're ahead of where 293 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: anybody thought you guys were going to be. Um. I 294 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: remember preaching at the beginning of the season when people 295 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: had called me and saying, hey, how many wins that 296 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: John's gonna Dude, it's not about the wins, man, it's 297 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: about the culture. I was saying, I'm sorry, sorry about 298 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: the culture. Play the right way, have everything aligned, But 299 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: you have to be surprised. It's pleasantly that you're ahead 300 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: of where anybody could have expected you. Guys, we're gonna 301 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: be at this point at the bye. Yeah, you know, 302 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: I preached it early on and you know since my 303 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: opening pressent. Just progress, let's see some progress. And you know, 304 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: our record is what it is. We're six and two, 305 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: which which I'm happy with. But I can't tell you 306 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: how proud I am after a game to stand in 307 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: that locker room and look around and just know that 308 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, whether it was next man up or injuries 309 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: or you know, Decks playing his butt off, or Leonard 310 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: or say Kwan or say Kwan came after I can't remember, 311 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: maybe a Carolina or one of the games. He didn't 312 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: have a bunch of yards or anything, but he was 313 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 1: a static that we won and hey, it's gonna be 314 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: tough sledding all year, you know what, Like these guys 315 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: are competing their butts off. We're getting to the end 316 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: and we're finding a way. And you know, even in London, 317 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, Nick McLeod's got a step up and come 318 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: in and play. We've got two corners down. You know, 319 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: Lane comes in and makes a play. I'm just I'm 320 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: just proud of the guys because they're competing their butt off, 321 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: they're preparing every week. We've we've had good weeks of practice. 322 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: And we say it all the time, like sometimes like Dick, 323 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: you know in this league, like you're gonna have bad 324 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: matchups everywhere. I've been like, you play some teams like 325 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: their strength is against our weakness and that just doesn't. 326 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: You gotta find a way. And you know, our guys 327 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: are finding a way and it's it's by doing things 328 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: the right way. And that's that's what I'm most proud of. Again, 329 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: if even if we weren't six and two that I 330 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: like the guy. I like the way the guys are 331 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: approaching the profession. I think we've got a good team chemistry, 332 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: going right now, which started back in the off season, 333 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: and what Dave's was doing with the guys in the 334 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: off season. So to me, that's why I like our team. 335 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: I like the guys. I like the way they're competing, 336 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: and you know, like the toughness and resiliency they show 337 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: on Sundays, and I'm proud of that. I go in 338 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: the locker room, you know, win or lose, even on Sunday. 339 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: We didn't make enough plays, but I'm proud of the 340 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: way those guys. You know, we went all the way 341 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: across the country to Seattle. It's thirteen thirteen in the 342 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and you know, we didn't make enough plays, 343 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: but the guys competed their ass off, and you know, 344 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm proud of them. Yeah, no doubt. So I was 345 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: down to Jacksonville and I saw John Marre on the 346 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: sideline and we're joking a little bit about, Oh b J, 347 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: how is in the house? And then it'll be Ja 348 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: calls him and he's like, wait, can I take this call? 349 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: You under contracts is tampering? Uh, it's it's it's the 350 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: elephant in the room. Oh b J. I don't know 351 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: if he wants to be back with the New York Giants, 352 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: but it's he could be and I know that it 353 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: is all about him deciding where he wants to go, 354 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: and you know, he probably wants to go to a contender. 355 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: But let's face it, Joe, you guys are kind of 356 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: in a contender right now. Is there any reality to 357 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: this or could there be O? B J. Coming back 358 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: to the Giants. Yeah. Again, we're gonna do our due 359 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: diligence all the time. And he's a guy that we've 360 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: you know, we've reached out to his representatives, were in 361 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: contact with his representatives. Where he is on his rehab, um, 362 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: what he's you know, what he's projected to be, and 363 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: you know whether it's four weeks from an how or 364 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: you know, five weeks in terms of his health, when 365 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna be available again. He he tore that a 366 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: c L in February, so you know his timeline. You know, 367 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: we've got to figure out that what that is. When's 368 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: he gonna be a percent healthy? Um, you know what 369 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: what he's looking for financially, So there's there's a lot 370 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: of stuff that goes into it. But yeah, we're gonna, 371 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: you know, anybody that will upgrade our roster at any position. 372 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna pursue those and you know, he checks that 373 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: box of a guy that we're gonna continue to stay 374 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: in contact with. The fans would go nuts if it 375 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: works out, So we're told of Joe Shane Joe. Let's 376 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: talk about the quarterback a little bit here. You know, 377 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: it's amazing when when you get a job, and I 378 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: mentioned this at the start of the interview, you kind 379 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: of assess what's in front of you and what you 380 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: guys need to do, and just how laborious it's gonna 381 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: be really in terms of getting things back to even 382 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: even playing here. And you guys are ahead of the curve. 383 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: I think we all know that. And the big question 384 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: more Kuance contract is interesting as well. No question, you 385 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: can't win in this league without a quarterback. And it's 386 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: a wacky year. Some of the legends are aged out, 387 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: some of the other legends just don't have a whole 388 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: lot around them, like Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. It's 389 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: a shifting time for the quarterback market right now. Daniel 390 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: Jones is tough, he's fast, he's smart, he's pretty talented, 391 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: and he looks to mess with this system. And I 392 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: think We're all curious what he would be with an 393 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: insurgence of weapons. The Daniel Jones that you thought you 394 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: were getting when you first took the job versus the 395 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones now. Is he significantly better than what you 396 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: thought marginally better? I'd love to hear your thoughts on 397 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: what you think Daniel is now compared to what you 398 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: thought he was when you took the job. Yeah. I 399 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: always thought, even when I took the job, watching the 400 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: film before I got here, that he had the physical tools. 401 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: I didn't really know him as a kid. I hadn't 402 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 1: been around him. But you know he's got He's got 403 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: enough arm strength, he can make all the throws. He's athletic, 404 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: he can run. Um, He's got a lot of dominant 405 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: traits for the position that that you that are desirable. 406 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: And then get to know the kid being around him, 407 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: his work ethic, his passion, his leadership. Again, he's a captain. 408 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: And then he's continued to get better in this system, 409 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: um from the spring to training camp. I know a 410 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: lot of people were on him in training camp, but again, 411 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: his wings defense is, you know, you're a game plan 412 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: and for people coming from out of left field, all 413 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: the time on you. But um, you know, once we 414 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: got into game plan and again we you know, I 415 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: said at the time, like we're trying to figure out 416 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: our team. What do our guys do? Well? What you know? 417 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: What what runs you know in the se quon, Like 418 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: what is he good at? What we routes to our receivers. 419 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: So as the offense has been evolving on a weekly basis, 420 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: he's continued to get better and he's he's now given 421 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: input on what he likes, what place he likes. Um, 422 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: you know what routes he likes to throw. So uh, 423 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm happy where he is. Again, you're talking about gotta 424 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: have at moments when you're value and quarterback. He's got 425 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: five fourth quarter comebacks. You know he's been he's done 426 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: a good job on third down for us. And I 427 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: hear you're on the receiver thing. But again, when we 428 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: got here, you only had an X amount of money 429 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: to deal with. No, no, it's not a Joe, I 430 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: don't I don't mean that's not at all, man. But 431 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: what one of my goals was to make sure he 432 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: could stand on his feet. Yes, first and foremost. So 433 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: you know you got four four news starting offensive lineman 434 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: and Andrew Thomas is playing at a high level. So 435 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: that was because it wouldn't matter who you have a 436 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: receiver if he can't stand on his feet. Resources we had, 437 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: we tried, Um, you know, I thought, I think Wandell 438 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: has got a bright future here. You know, he's gonna 439 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: be able to help us out. So you know, that 440 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: was kind of the goal in the off season. Again, 441 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: I know, you know again, he he we we'd all 442 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: love to see him with you know, three number ones 443 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: out there throwing too, But you know we'll get there. 444 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: It's gonna take time. It's not gonna happen overnight. Understood, 445 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: and and by me, listen, I'm not trying to hit 446 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: you with a got you question if clearly you're not 447 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: going to dive exactly financial probators, nobody's asking to do that. 448 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: But what else do you as an organization need to 449 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: see from Daniel Jones before you're fully I think everybody 450 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: on board where you say, okay, we're gonna roll forward 451 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: with this kid for a couple of years. What else 452 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: do you need to see? Yeah, again, we got we 453 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: have nine games left, so it's gonna be a continuing 454 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: valuation just an eight game you know, look into what 455 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: he can do, Like we're we're really still figuring him out, 456 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: and I think we've got to you know, we're almost 457 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: there in terms of understanding what what his strengths and 458 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: weaknesses are. But he's continuing to develop on a weekly basis, 459 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: and we're continue to evolve as a as an offensive, 460 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, football team. And again, I just think we're 461 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: gonna let it play out and you know, see how 462 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 1: the next nine games go. But I'm happy where Daniel 463 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: is right now. He's doing everything we're asking him to do. 464 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: He's taking care of the football and then gotta have 465 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: it moments. He's made place for us. Yeah. The other 466 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: star he had to talk about his sae Quon Barkley 467 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: and his contract situation. Obviously he's up after this season. 468 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: He's on his fifth year option. The franchise number is 469 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: not significantly greater than what he's being paid right now, 470 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: so that obviously an option. But I heard you saying, 471 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: Um yesterday that this is the week you have that conversation. 472 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: Have you started it, how's it going? What's the process 473 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: or thought process? Uh? To be more specific with se 474 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: Kwan in his future with the Giants. Yeah, yeah, And 475 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: that's again that the franchise tag as a as a 476 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: tool that we have and can can utilize if we 477 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: need to. Again, Sa Kwan is another guy that fits 478 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: into He's a culture guy. He's he's done everything we've asked, 479 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: he's a captain um and he's a very good player 480 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: at his position, has had a very good season. So, uh, 481 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: he's a guy. Obviously we're gonna do our due diligence 482 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: on and you know we'd like to keep him around here. 483 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: So again we can um get into the contract extension talks. 484 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: And again it's it's just like we're talking about earlier. 485 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: You decide a value for the player, where where we 486 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,239 Speaker 1: see him and why, and then knowing that you do 487 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: have the franchise tag you know, as a tool in 488 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: your toolbox. Yeah, we know, I think he wants to 489 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: be here, but have you had that conversation with him 490 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: that he wants to be here for as a giant 491 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: for life. Kwan and I have a great, great relationship. 492 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: I've talked with him, Uh, you know, told him I'd 493 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: like to like him to be here, and you know, 494 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: I think he's in the same boat. And you know, 495 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: we'll see if we can work something out here at 496 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: some point, Joe, what is um totally Joe Shane John's 497 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: gym here on Tiqui and Tierney on the fan. What 498 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: is one thing about the Giants fan base that you 499 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: thought you knew but you've learned in the last couple 500 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: of months, anything jump out O the great Joe Shane 501 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: sire so much. I mean there's I don't know where 502 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: to Yeah, I really didn't know where to start with 503 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: that because there's so much. I mean, they're they're passionate, 504 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: They're like they're all over the place. Like whether I'm 505 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: at an airport. You know, people have approached me in 506 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: the New Orleans airport that we're Giants fans out of 507 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: left field. Um, you know, they're all over the United States. 508 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: And then just I can't say enough about the atmosphere 509 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: at the stadium, like on our home games, like we've 510 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: had a home field advantage where we're up there tops 511 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: in the league and fall starts by opponents and at 512 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: our home stadium, and and I don't think it's always 513 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: been like that. In the interview, you go to that, yeah, 514 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: you go to that money and game and they go 515 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: to the field vision when uh kwon scored and we 516 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: went up and you're looking around and all the white 517 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: towels and the fans going crazy. I mean it's been amazing. 518 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: Like again, we we went to the Rangers last game 519 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: last night, Daves, and I like, you know, he couldn't 520 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: enjoy the game because everybody is all over him. And 521 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: I love it. I love the passion of the fans. 522 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: They're into it. Uh, they want to win just as 523 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: bad as we do. So, UM, you know, it's been awesome. 524 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: It's been a great, great experience as far. Yeah, so 525 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: just you know, not to be all all I don't 526 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: know Sunshine here. Uh, the Darius Tony trade, we know 527 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: how it went down. We know what you said. Um, 528 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: it's it sounds to us like this was all about culture. 529 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: This was keeping the culture, right. Are we reading that wrong? Yeah, 530 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: all due respect to I don't want to get into 531 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: specifics on it. It was just I'll stick with what 532 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: Dave's uh talked about, and it just it was the best. Um, 533 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: it's best for the organization. I really do believe that. 534 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: And you know, again, um, you know, we wish him 535 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: nothing but the best in Kansas City. Of course, the 536 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: way you don't need to expand on that, because anybody 537 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: with two brain cells knows what you guys who try 538 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: to do, and when somebody is countered to that, you 539 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: let him go. The fact that he's an elite athlete, 540 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: he's an electric talent, the fact that you guys moved 541 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: on from him tells us everything we know now. So 542 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: it's all good. I've got one more for you myself. 543 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: Here were told of Joe Shane six and to start 544 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: largely unexpected. Maybe not as much on the inside, but 545 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: certainly from the outside. I'll take the l on that 546 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: I thought you guys would have real rough season because 547 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: you have six wins now and you're at the old 548 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: conventional halfway point a non playoff season. How disappointing would 549 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: that be? Well, that's a good question. Give me the 550 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: coach stock here. We're just talking. Want the real stuff. 551 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: Just we're on We're just worried about Houston, not on 552 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: this show. Joe, talk to us. We're humans. Let's go now. 553 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: Uh on a on a serious note, like every week 554 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: is gonna be a dog fight for us, And again 555 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: it comes down to no different than Seattle, Like if 556 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: if we're gonna turn the ball over and not when 557 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: to turnover battle, it could be rough, but if we're 558 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: gonna play the way I know we're capable of playing, 559 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: and we take care of the football um and make 560 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 1: more plays than the other team, and in the end 561 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: of the you know, like we've been doing early on 562 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: to get us the six wins. You know, I think 563 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: we have a chance every weekend. I'm not gonna put 564 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: a win total or an expectation on it, but again, 565 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: we're winning a certain way. Our guys are grinding it out, 566 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: and that's all I can ask our guys to do 567 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: is continue to approach each week the way they are 568 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: that they're locked in on the next opponent. Uh, they're 569 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: preparing well, and you know, again we'll see the results 570 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: on Sundays if they continue to do what they're doing. Yeah, 571 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: So that's one for me here. When we chatted when 572 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: I was over there for training camp that day, you 573 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: told me, and I've I've been preaching it, the strength 574 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: of this team is gonna be Sae Kwon Barkley in 575 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: the offensive run game, not necessarily the past game, but 576 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,959 Speaker 1: the run game, and they've been fantastic to start the season. 577 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: Now eight weeks in, you're at the bye week. What 578 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: what other strength is there? I see the secondary as 579 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: playing significantly above what anybody thought they were gonna be. 580 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: The talent as obviously there. What other strength is or 581 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: that this team can build on? Yeah, I think um, yeah, 582 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: in particularly the safeties in the corners, they are they 583 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: are playing well. Uh. Fabian Moro is a guy that 584 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, we we've got an early September and he um, 585 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: you know he's on the practice squad and then you 586 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: know he's taking advantage of every opportunities have. You know, 587 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: we got we have three good safeties. Uh. I'm happy 588 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: the way they're playing, and the door is playing really 589 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: well along with Darnay Holmes. I think I think our 590 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: art outside backer position. You know, ask Cavon Um was 591 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: able to get back to health. You've seen what he's 592 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: able to do. Jahad Wards playing really well, Um, Tomon 593 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: Fox and undrafted free agents has done really well. You 594 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: know O'shane's had a great season Um and he's coming 595 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: back off injury, hopefully against Houston, and then I'm excited 596 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: for his ease to get out there. So once you 597 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: get his zase, you've got Cavon, you know, Ellerson Smith's back. 598 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: We have some depth and outside back and then you 599 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: put those those dudes inside, you know, Dex and Leo. 600 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: You know, we've got a formidable front. So um. You know, 601 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: I think I think our front is is only going 602 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: to continue to get stronger as those guys, uh come 603 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: back from injury and um again, yeah, the offensive line 604 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: you spoke about. I think those guys played really well. 605 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: We were lucky with health, you know, throughout the first 606 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: uh seven weeks of the year, and then you know 607 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville we had, we had two injuries and again 608 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: proud of the guy's next man up, a Zoodo, the 609 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: rookie went in there and played well against Seattle and 610 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: Tyree Phillips, another guy who we got at the final cutdown, 611 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: started at right tackle for us and you know other 612 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: you know, two false starts at a you know, a 613 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: hostile environment, which is expected. Um I thought he played 614 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: pretty well. So um again, I think, you know, you 615 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: could pick holes in our our our team, and maybe 616 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: we don't have strengths. But you know, I said it 617 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: all along, like some of the best teams I've been 618 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: on aren't necessarily the most talented, but they're the best team. 619 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: The best team, I think, Uh, I think that's what 620 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: we got going for us right now. The guys. The 621 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: guys care for each other, they're all working hard, they're 622 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: holding each other accountable, and um again, I'm just proud 623 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: of where we are, by the way, you know, I 624 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 1: said it was the last one of it. Just give 625 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: us twenty seconds. On Beldinger, I think and I both 626 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: really like him as a player. How's he feeling. What's 627 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: his timeline here, Joe, Yeah, he's doing well. He uh 628 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: he had surgery last week and uh, we'll continue to 629 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: monitor it hopefully. You know, I'm not sure exactly that 630 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: the day we're still waiting. I mean we're not even 631 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: a week out of surgery, so um, no real time one. 632 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: But he's gonna be okay, he'll be back to percent. 633 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: And again we're hoping, I don't know, maybe uh, you know, 634 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: Detroit hopefully. I mean that may be aggressive, but I 635 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: like to get him back. And yeah, he's he's doing 636 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: a great job. He's doing great. We missed him on Sunday. 637 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: He's good run game stuff, you know that was you know, 638 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: we missed some of his blocking there and yeah, he's 639 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: he's got a bright future. Well listen, I know you 640 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: and Tique have a good relationship away from the radio, 641 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: went away from the field, so I'm good for me 642 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: to talk to you again. Great for the Giant fans 643 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: to hear. You're very generous with your time. We appreciate it. Joe, 644 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Thank you for the time. Guys 645 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Take care, man, Joe's gonna take He's not 646 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: gonna hit you up every week. You know you're coming 647 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: on the show. I don't mind Pat and Little stop 648 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: us at the door. Let me tell you something. Thanks 649 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: a lot, Joe, Joe Shane. They hired that is that 650 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: is I know it's early. That is a home run 651 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: duo that they brought in with Joe Shane and bable 652 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: Giant fans. I know you pumped. You don't leave me 653 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: to pump you are, But man, you guys gotta go. 654 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: Knew you knew it in real time too. You knew it. 655 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:03,959 Speaker 1: You just feel it.