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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Monday edition of Fair Territory. It

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Speaker 1: is January twelfth, New York Yankees and Boston Red Sox.

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Speaker 1: Do you know where your free agent bat is? We

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Speaker 1: will get to that later in the show, but first,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the team that actually did sign a

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Speaker 1: big free agent bat over the weekend, The team that

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Speaker 1: I wrote about last week and said they needed to

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Speaker 1: make a move precisely like this. Generally speaking, teams don't

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Speaker 1: listen to me, don't care what I write. But in

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Speaker 1: this case, I think I had the right idea and

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Speaker 1: the Cubs did the right thing. Alex Gregman five years,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five million. With deferrals, it's more

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Speaker 1: like five to one fifty or five to one fifty five,

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Speaker 1: but either way, he will be their third baseman next season.

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Speaker 1: And with the Cubs doing this, they've really completed an

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Speaker 1: offseason it would seem to me that has been very

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Speaker 1: good in almost every way. They got a starting pitcher

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Speaker 1: Edward Cabrera that they needed, rebuilt their bullpen with five

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Speaker 1: free agent signings, even brought in Tyler Austin bringing him

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Speaker 1: back from Japan. They've just had a really sound off

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Speaker 1: season for a team that, in my opinion and in

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Speaker 1: the opinion of a lot of people who follow them,

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Speaker 1: need to take a step forward. The question now is

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Speaker 1: what is next for the Cubs, And you see their

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Speaker 1: off season editions right there, and let's not forget showda

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Speaker 1: Imanaga also accepted a qualifying offer, so he's back. The

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Speaker 1: question with the Cubs now is would they trade Nico

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Speaker 1: Horner or Matt Shaw now that they have Bregmann in

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Speaker 1: the fold. In my opinion, I've written this, and Sahada

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Speaker 1: Sharma of The Athletic wrote it more eloquently than I've

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Speaker 1: said it today. The Cubs can't trade Horner. They shouldn't

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Speaker 1: trade Horner. They can entertain the thought if they'd like,

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Speaker 1: and if someone wants to offer them something ridiculous for

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Speaker 1: one year of Nico Horner, be my guest. But the

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Speaker 1: whole idea here is to build the best team possible,

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Speaker 1: and it's difficult to imagine the best Cubs team possible

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Speaker 1: not including Nico Horner. Nico Horner, yes, under club control

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Speaker 1: for only one more season. Well, guess what you know

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Speaker 1: what that means. It means the Cubs should sign him

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Speaker 1: to an extension, and that way they would have locked

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Speaker 1: up Horner at second, Swanson and short Bregman at third.

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Speaker 1: This is a team, as I've written, has very little

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Speaker 1: on their books beyond this season, so they're in perfect position,

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Speaker 1: as they were, for Gregman to do something along those

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Speaker 1: lines with Nico Horner. I know Yankee fans are lusting

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Speaker 2: Fan bases at least, but I.

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Speaker 1: Just don't see this happening. I don't see it as

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Speaker 2: So good for the.

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Speaker 1: Cubs in getting the guy that they frankly should have

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Speaker 1: had last offseason. If you remember, they signed or attempted

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Speaker 1: to sign Alex Bregman for four years, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifteen million. They finished fourth in those sweepstakes. The Tigers

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Speaker 1: were ahead of them, other teams were ahead of them,

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Speaker 1: of course, the Red Sox were ahead of them, and

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Speaker 1: ultimately he gets much more than four to one point

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Speaker 1: fifteen from that team. He gets sixty million more and

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Speaker 1: an extra year. Good for Alex Bregman. He comes out

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifteen million. It's not worth that in

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Speaker 1: present day, but that is ultimately around what he wanted

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Speaker 1: so Alex Gregman, he'll be at Wrigglely. Next year, he'll

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Speaker 1: be at Wriggily with Edward Cabrera. And the Cubs are

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Speaker 1: a team that, depending upon what the Brewers do, are

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Speaker 1: which is what they should be every single year since

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Speaker 1: they are the biggest spender, or should be the biggest

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Speaker 1: spender in that particular division. Now moving on, this is

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Speaker 1: where it gets really interesting, and I touched on this

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Speaker 1: in my four takeaways on the Bregman contract Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: Three big bats remain Kyle Tucker, Cody Bellinger, Boba Schet.

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Speaker 2: More than three.

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Speaker 1: Three teams are in the hunt for those big bats.

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Speaker 1: More than three big market teams are in the hunt.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I've listed five.

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Speaker 1: I've got five in my head. It's the Mets, it's

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Speaker 1: The Yankees with Bellinger, buster only reported just a couple

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Speaker 1: But obviously those negotiations have not gone well. The Athletics

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Speaker 1: Brendan Cutty has detailed that from the very beginning. So

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Speaker 1: if the Yankees get Bellinger, okay, that's the guy that

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Speaker 1: Number one priority. That's Cody Bellinger for the New York Yankees.

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Speaker 1: The Tucker sweepstakes getting quite interesting. Jim Duquette reporting this

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Speaker 1: morning again that the three teams in the mix for Tucker.

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Speaker 1: Are the Mets, the Blue Jays, and the Dodgers. How

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Speaker 1: Will any of those teams go long with Tucker? That

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Speaker 1: unclear exactly where they are. And here's Jim's tweet from

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Speaker 1: three main teams involved in the Tucker negotiations, Toronto, the Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: in person or over zoom as part of the recruiting process.

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Speaker 1: Will be interesting to see if any of the three

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Speaker 1: teams increase their offers soon to separate themselves from the other. Now,

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Speaker 1: the real question here, perhaps is what does Tucker want.

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Speaker 1: the Blue Jays. Does he want to go to Toronto? It's

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Speaker 1: still a question that some free agents have and then

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Speaker 1: Then there are the Boston Red Sox, and I've saved

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call them the best, but I've saved them

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Speaker 1: for last. This is not a question of saving the

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Speaker 1: The failure to sign Mookie, the trade of MOOKI that

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Speaker 1: It's when they signed Bregman and they moved Devers over

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Speaker 2: How that turned out.

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Speaker 1: So then you have Bregman, but you don't sign Bregman back,

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Speaker 1: do you see there? Jen McCaffrey wrote in letting Alex

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Speaker 1: of disarray. Tom Karen, one of their team broadcasters, was

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Speaker 1: Fans, media members, you name it, and the Red Sox,

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Speaker 1: when in a siege moment like this, often overreact and

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Speaker 1: often overcompensate. That was what the Devors signing was after

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Speaker 1: they failed to get Mookie done. And let's remember Mooki

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Speaker 2: Heavily deferred.

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Speaker 1: We don't know if that's true or not. It's a hypothetical,

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Speaker 1: But the Red Sox should have signed Mooky.

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Speaker 2: That again was the original sin.

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Speaker 1: So where are we now? What I wrote about the

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Speaker 1: Sox at this moment. You're a big market team. Act

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Speaker 1: like it back in a moment with the Inside Dish.

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Speaker 1: Oh and one other thing, The Foul Territory Network has

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Speaker 1: Redman's deal covered from every angle. Patrick Mooney and Sahadev

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Speaker 1: Sharma's latest North Side Territory episode uncovers how the Cubs

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Speaker 1: got the deal across the finish line. Meanwhile, Robbie Hyde's

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Speaker 1: Monster Territory is left to lament what the Red Sox

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Speaker 1: should have done differently, Subscribe on YouTube and wherever you

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Speaker 3: Well, well, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, time now for the Inside Dish, the part of

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Speaker 1: the show where I go inside a story. I've written

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Speaker 1: something happening in the game, something else entirely. And today

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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about my column that appeared this

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Speaker 1: morning in The Athletic, the one on Trek Schooble's arbitration

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Speaker 1: because Schooble has asked for a record amount in arbitration,

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Speaker 1: thirty two million, the Tigers have offered nineteen million. It

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Speaker 1: The column is sort of lengthy by my standards, I guess.

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Speaker 1: But first off, let's talk about how arbitration hearings work.

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Speaker 2: So in a hearing, one side.

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Speaker 1: Has submitted one number, in this case, Schooble side, thirty

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Speaker 2: One number or the other. They don't go in between.

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Speaker 1: It's thirty two or nineteen in this case. Now there

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Speaker 1: They are both entrenched in their positions and they both

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Speaker 1: that as we get into it. Schooble made ten point

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Speaker 1: I should say, I'm sorry ignores the CBA. The CBA,

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Speaker 2: Now all off season, the.

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Speaker 1: Tigers have sought to improve their roster and have Kyle Finnegan, Kennedy, Jansen,

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Speaker 1: We don't know the answers to that. Schooble has been

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Speaker 1: But the bottom line here is that Schooble is the

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Speaker 2: But either way, and this.

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Speaker 1: Is the point here, this decision is likely to have

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Speaker 1: First question comes from armand is amazing armand he asks

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Speaker 1: Grilling Ken, does Boba Chet sign a deal with the

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Speaker 1: Phillies today during the meeting. It's interesting you asked that

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Speaker 1: Next question from Tyler Macksmith, who asked, will the Braves

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Speaker 1: That would indicate to me that they can still do things.

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Speaker 1: that they perceive those players perceive as more competitive.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's take one more before we cut out here.

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Speaker 1: This one's from John Todd twenty two e five, d Ken,

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Speaker 1: do you have anything on the Angels? I mean, why

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Speaker 1: would they save the Rendome money if they don't plan

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Speaker 1: to spend it this year.

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Speaker 2: I'm so confused, and hopefully you can help with understanding

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Speaker 2: their plans.

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Speaker 1: The Angels are another team in this TV situation, and

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Speaker 1: I wrote about a week and a half ago that

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Speaker 1: they were kind of lurking in the market. They were

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Speaker 1: thinking about doing big things. That was before the TV

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Speaker 1: stuff came down. And even at that time, our Angels

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Speaker 1: beat writer Sam Blum said to me, are you sure

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Speaker 1: about this?

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Speaker 2: You think they're really going to spend?

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Speaker 1: Because Sam's experience told him they're not going to spend,

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Speaker 1: and right now it looks like that is more likely

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Speaker 1: at all. And you're right, where is the rendo money?

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Speaker 1: What is the point if you're not going to reinvest it? Hey,

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Speaker 1: they did have to settle to Tyler skagg case, they've

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Speaker 1: had some things go against them financially. But could they

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Speaker 1: spend more? Yes, of course they could spend more. All Right,

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Speaker 1: with that, we close it out. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: everyone for watching and for listening. Foul Territory coming up

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Speaker 1: at one pm ET. Luke Weaver, Jonathan Papabon and Sean

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Speaker 1: Nukam joined AJ Presents, Eric Kratz and Scott Brown.

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Speaker 2: We will be back Thursday at our normal.

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Speaker 1: Twelve thirty Eastern flat with a lot of Rizzo returning,

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Speaker 1: I talk to you then have a great week. Everyone,