WEBVTT - The Most Dramatic Crossover Ever

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<v Speaker 1>This is Suckers, Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Most traumatic podcast ever with iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to Suckers and a very special episode because it's

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<v Speaker 4>also an almost famous episode, but an even more special

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<v Speaker 4>episode because we have the one and only Chris Harrison

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<v Speaker 4>joining us. What suckers, it's well, let's think about Obviously

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<v Speaker 4>you got lollipops or suckers.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people call them suckers, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Suckers is our podcast with Kaylin and Jared Haban, who

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure obviously you know. Well we named it that

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<v Speaker 4>because we're suckers for life, and we we well we

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<v Speaker 4>just cann't really think of a better name, so suckers.

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<v Speaker 5>I do have a question about suckers. Yeah, because today

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<v Speaker 5>I saw the promo picture.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Are you happy that I'm blond?

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<v Speaker 5>Mad that you're blond in the promo picture that will

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<v Speaker 5>now live probably for the next ten years.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's mixed emotions. I don't like the way I look,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's funny and I just smile every time. You're

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<v Speaker 4>still blond here because you have a hat on her,

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<v Speaker 4>I do. Yeah, you'll see me with a hat on

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<v Speaker 4>the entire time here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's kind of growing out though. You almost have

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<v Speaker 2>like a little leopard print thing going.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, it's not good. And what's it like.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're so handsome that you can just do anything

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<v Speaker 2>and not care like a normal person can't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what, because you'll look like a buffoon

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<v Speaker 2>if it was. If you do it, you're like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care. I'm so effing handsome, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>You're too sweet. Chris.

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<v Speaker 4>If you asked me that question ten years ago, i'd

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<v Speaker 4>have an honest answer for you. But I've since gone

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<v Speaker 4>well past that. I've getten a lot of weight. You

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<v Speaker 4>know you're married, you don't, Yeah, exactly, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually got to say though, it's my first time

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<v Speaker 4>seeing Chris probably in three or four years. You literally

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<v Speaker 4>you look twenty years younger than the last time I

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<v Speaker 4>saw you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because I'm married. You're married to a younger woman.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to really get a lot of work done.

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<v Speaker 3>Stress you look less.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I lost. I lost about a thousand people in

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<v Speaker 2>my life.

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<v Speaker 3>It kind of Chris Chirs looks so young.

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<v Speaker 4>They were trying to flag me down in the airport,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just walked by them because I didn't even recognize.

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<v Speaker 2>So we we we flew in from Austin, they flew

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<v Speaker 2>in from their home, and so we had this layover

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<v Speaker 2>in Phoenix and so I'm walking through the airport and

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<v Speaker 2>I go, oh, there's Dean and I go, he's walking

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<v Speaker 2>at me with shades on, and Dean Dean Dean by me, like,

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<v Speaker 2>Laura Lauren goes, does does he hate you? Like maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he's mad at me?

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<v Speaker 3>And I.

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<v Speaker 2>Go, honestly, I don't know. Maybe maybe I.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't recognize you. I was like, who's that a handsome

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<v Speaker 4>thirty year old over there trying to flag me down?

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<v Speaker 2>And then we went through the you know, the what

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<v Speaker 2>you do in an airport where people are yelling your

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<v Speaker 2>name and you just kind of like you ignored it first,

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<v Speaker 2>and you hope it's gonna, you know, go away and.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and also seems blonde. I don't think I've ever

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<v Speaker 4>seen her blonde. So I don't think i've seen her

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<v Speaker 4>blonde wearing a hat.

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<v Speaker 2>Luckily, Kaylin was sweet to us, and so we talked

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<v Speaker 2>to him.

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<v Speaker 3>She's texting me, was in the bathroom. She's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>Chris and Laura are here. Be nice to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, guys, yeah, I know it's the first time I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen them since they got married, which is we both

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<v Speaker 2>kind of got married close to the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>I would think. So you guys got probably a few

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<v Speaker 3>months before us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, October and November because we had two weddings. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when what month?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh we were September, so I guess we were right

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<v Speaker 3>before us. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, And so when when was the wedding day?

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<v Speaker 3>September twenty third?

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<v Speaker 2>It looked amazing? Yes, yes, exactly, check got it? And no,

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<v Speaker 2>it looked incredible. It looked like it and save to yours.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's you know, and same to years. Look

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<v Speaker 2>at us, we're all married.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I'm deep into this thing now, Yeah, you're too.

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<v Speaker 2>Sunk it that, first of all, all three of us

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<v Speaker 2>would be married. Second of all, that you would be

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<v Speaker 2>married the longest, although we had just been married.

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<v Speaker 5>Over two years and three months. Now, I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 5>in it.

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<v Speaker 2>How's that going?

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<v Speaker 3>It is incredible? Is it? It is like the best

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<v Speaker 3>thing ever I have.

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<v Speaker 5>I was actually talking to Jason Tartik, who's also hearing

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<v Speaker 5>this trip, and we're going to be sitting down with

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<v Speaker 5>him a letter date to kind of dig in. But

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<v Speaker 5>he and I flew one on the same flight, and

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<v Speaker 5>I was telling him just about life, and I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>here's what I know, because whatever you're going through right now,

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<v Speaker 5>I've been in that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's on the beaches of Normandy right now. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 2>taking incoming fire. It's like the world is coming at

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<v Speaker 2>him like he's drinking out of a fire hydrant. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a lot, and it's going to be an interesting

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<v Speaker 5>conversation with him. But I told him because I remember

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<v Speaker 5>when I was in that season, I was like, you

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<v Speaker 5>know what, I don't know if marriage is actually going

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<v Speaker 5>to be that great. Like I really started to get

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<v Speaker 5>in my mind, like every relationship I've had is like

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<v Speaker 5>hurt me deeply, terribly.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to dig into it. Yeah, but like being

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<v Speaker 3>married to Jessica is like it takes stress out of

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<v Speaker 3>my life.

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<v Speaker 2>You called her jess or Jessica both.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just depending on where we're at and what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I did that, I guess with Laura.

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<v Speaker 5>But uh yeah, it's the best. Like she is a

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<v Speaker 5>great partner. I my life is a lot better. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>very happy. But she's really incredible, Like she's very sweet.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, her and Kaylin are good friends. Her and

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<v Speaker 5>Laura are good friends, Like they're just they want to

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<v Speaker 5>make our lives better, which is really wild to have

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<v Speaker 5>that in somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all spend a lot time apart, a.

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<v Speaker 3>Ton of time apart do Yeah, a lot of time?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that just work and just your lives are going

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<v Speaker 2>different directions?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean she's she has I think probably the

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<v Speaker 5>most successful esthetician clinic in Denver. Like she is very busy,

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<v Speaker 5>and so she's down there Monday or Tuesday through Friday,

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes Saturday and Sundays. I travel probably once a week

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<v Speaker 5>to do something for generous or something for iHeart or something.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's actually great because she grew up in a

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<v Speaker 5>household her where her dad traveled two or three days

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<v Speaker 5>a week, and then when day he came home, everybody

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<v Speaker 5>was super excited to see him. And so when we

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<v Speaker 5>get together, like both very excited, but we never get

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<v Speaker 5>sick of each other. It's it's like when we're in

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<v Speaker 5>bed watching a movie together, it's like our vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you're you're like that too, right, because you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>off going, yeah, kill him in Jarrow or I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>living in a tree.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, But Ben's got his successful nonprofit Jess as her

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<v Speaker 4>successful esthetician clinic. Kaylen and I are both unemployed, so

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<v Speaker 4>we spend a lot of time together.

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<v Speaker 2>But you do know, Yeah, one of the things, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things I really appreciated about Kaylen and

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember where I ran into her and we

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<v Speaker 2>had this conversation. God, what was it? But anyway, what

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<v Speaker 2>I loved is she was talking about you in such

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<v Speaker 2>a glowing way and how she really seems to correct

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<v Speaker 2>me if I'm wrong. This might be a total lie,

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<v Speaker 2>but she really seems to appreciate who you are. And

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<v Speaker 2>I could seem someone marrying you for the excitement of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but then wanting to change you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well I'll tell you what you want to know.

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<v Speaker 3>What our last big fight was about changing you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>She has been getting very mad at me because I

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<v Speaker 4>tend to pick my nose in public.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm talking mad, like mad, I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see the problem here, Like I think she's

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<v Speaker 3>a good partner.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I should back up my bro.

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<v Speaker 4>Here when you say she's not trying to change me, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>she's trying to change me.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a big deal. The nose picking.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'll tell you, why is this a hill?

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna die if you have a book in your

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<v Speaker 4>nose and you can't get it through the traditional means

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<v Speaker 4>of a tissue, kleenex or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>You need to pick it. What if I'm out in public,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to wait until I'm in private to

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<v Speaker 3>pick it.

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<v Speaker 5>Disagree, I don't want to look underneath your car seat.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh no, I had a buddy who's a nose picker

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<v Speaker 5>in the car and underneath. Yeah, so when she brings

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<v Speaker 5>us up to you, because this is like, this is

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<v Speaker 5>a very good thing for her to bring up for

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<v Speaker 5>you to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Were you embarrassed initially like defensive?

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<v Speaker 5>Like no, no, like or were you just like I

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<v Speaker 5>want to keep doing this because I enjoy it one

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<v Speaker 5>thousand percent the ladder of that.

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<v Speaker 4>I say, Hey, I'm picking my nose, Like I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just a fact of being with me.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you have to accept it. And it's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I said, we actually had a legitimate argument about

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<v Speaker 4>me picking my nose in public.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing though, that you actually stood up for yourself, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn it, damn it, woman, this is me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not exactly you know, you're chewing loudly, are like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't love that you eat corn nuts in bed

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<v Speaker 2>or something. I don't know, but it's like I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>pick my nose.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well it's funny. Actually, I think I can share

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<v Speaker 4>this without getting in too much trouble. She goes to

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<v Speaker 4>therapy often, which I think is great for everyone. And

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<v Speaker 4>she said she told me the story that she brought

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<v Speaker 4>it up with her therapist, the whole nose picking fight,

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<v Speaker 4>and her therapist goes, I think that you're you you

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<v Speaker 4>just are a little envious of his care free lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 4>Is me paraphrasing what the therapist.

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<v Speaker 2>Picking represents a lifestyle? Okay, I get this. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's she's not mad about the nose picking.

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<v Speaker 4>She wants she well, and she is, and she'll be

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<v Speaker 4>at the first admit that she's a little like not

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<v Speaker 4>high strung, but she's a pageant girl, you know. So

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<v Speaker 4>they've got to have their all their crap together and

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<v Speaker 4>the opposite of that, I live in I've lived in

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<v Speaker 4>a van for a bunch of years. So, uh, that's

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<v Speaker 4>what the therapist said.

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<v Speaker 3>There. She was like, well, not that you're like envious of.

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<v Speaker 4>The care free lifestyle that he has. But like that's

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<v Speaker 4>just like the disconnect there. Can I follow up with

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<v Speaker 4>the question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, is this about nose picking? Can we move on?

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<v Speaker 5>No a little bit, A little bit here, And I

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<v Speaker 5>want to ask Chris's advice to here.

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<v Speaker 2>In marriage because I have a big nose. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>In marriage, like it is beautiful, it is great.

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<v Speaker 5>But one of the things that jess Can I take

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<v Speaker 5>very uh, we make very important in our life is

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<v Speaker 5>to stay attracted to each other, like either that be

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<v Speaker 5>working out, going on dates, dressing up for each other,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like if one of us is using the restroom,

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<v Speaker 5>like play little music so that the person can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Hear you or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, there's things that we've tried to do just to

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<v Speaker 5>keep a little bit of the mystery alive.

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<v Speaker 3>And the intimacy going.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say, from Caitlin's perspective, if Jessica was picking

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<v Speaker 5>her nose in public all the time, I think for me,

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<v Speaker 5>it wouldn't be that I care that much of you're

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<v Speaker 5>doing it, other than the fact that it might gross

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<v Speaker 5>me out just enough where I'm like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>if I want to have sex with you anymore? Yeah, ever, ever,

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<v Speaker 5>is that I mean, like so is that we're a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit of where this is coming from.

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<v Speaker 2>You.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, of all the things I'm doing, picking my nose

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<v Speaker 4>is like the not the least unattractive or not the

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<v Speaker 4>most unattractive. I guess, like I said, I've age ten

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<v Speaker 4>years and three, so I'm seven years ahead of the

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<v Speaker 4>curve on that. I've gained twenty pounds, lost all muscle tone.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I guess I'm just kind of leaning heavy

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<v Speaker 4>into the I'm going to be unattractive from this point forward,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. But I do agree with what you're saying, and

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<v Speaker 4>one of my resolutions is to get in the gym

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<v Speaker 4>more and get back to like being comfortable with myself again.

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<v Speaker 4>Like when I was on the Bachelorette the first time.

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<v Speaker 4>When I first met Chris, I was like in the

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<v Speaker 4>best shape of my life. I was thin, I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of had some abs. Those labs are so long gone,

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<v Speaker 4>and I do think.

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<v Speaker 2>That I need to let me just jump in.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never had them. Yeah, but you at least have

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<v Speaker 4>something under there, you know. I don't. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>I have much of anything. So I do agree I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't need to get back into the lab and start

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<v Speaker 4>making her more attracted to me in certain ways. Maybe yeah, keep.

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<v Speaker 3>Dating, keep dating.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think it is very important. To your point, Ben,

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<v Speaker 2>I always want to date Lauren, but I'm always I

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<v Speaker 2>actually truly always want to. Like I think it's important too,

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<v Speaker 2>but I actually really do want to. It's fun and

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<v Speaker 2>and she's the first person I've loved enough in my

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<v Speaker 2>life where I want to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, Keep keep the mystery alive, keep it, you know. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I know some of the bloom is off the rose

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<v Speaker 2>your mayor. We've been living together, built a life together.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not all, you know, fantasy suites. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's important. I really do. I think that life is important.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you keep it? How do you keep that going? Though?

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<v Speaker 4>It is my question, Like we still go on date

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<v Speaker 4>nights and stuff, you know, And it's it's funny too,

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<v Speaker 4>because it's such a tale of two sides, Like Kaylen

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<v Speaker 4>gets hotter every single day and I get uglier every

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<v Speaker 4>single day, so she is stunning.

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<v Speaker 3>It does.

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<v Speaker 2>Scales are definitely uneven.

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<v Speaker 3>They've always.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it always takes effort, and it's funny even

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<v Speaker 2>the little things about dating, continuing to date, you can

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<v Speaker 2>fall into the trap of the mundane and repetitive of

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<v Speaker 2>we always kind of do the same thing on date

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<v Speaker 2>night now and now date night's not even special, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's always kind of just mixing it up, of doing

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that's different, leaving little notes, little just things that

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<v Speaker 2>are out of the ordinary different. The problem with I

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<v Speaker 2>have with Lauren she is really tough, like she if

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't like something, she comes from a family of lawyers.

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<v Speaker 2>She will just tell you. Like if I bought her

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<v Speaker 2>this watch one time, this really was hard for me

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<v Speaker 2>to take. It was a very beautiful watch. It was

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<v Speaker 2>very expensive and it was early on and I gave

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<v Speaker 2>it to her and she's like, why would you get

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<v Speaker 2>me a watch? Have you ever seen me wear a watch?

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<v Speaker 3>And I said.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's the point. I said, you've I've never seen

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<v Speaker 2>you with a watch. And I thought, how great, there's

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<v Speaker 2>this beautiful watch. She's like, you know, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I was crestfallen. Man, I was heartbroken. I've never had

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<v Speaker 2>anybody like reject you know, just fake it, right, But

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<v Speaker 2>she won't. She's like, why would I fake it?

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<v Speaker 4>I said, but what's worse that or her receiving it

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<v Speaker 4>and then just never wearing it for the next however long.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree, No, I'm happy now I understand. I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>would rather just go get something with you, Like when

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<v Speaker 2>we picked out her ring, I'm like, I'm just going

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<v Speaker 2>to go with you and let's build the ring you want.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, and that's so I did for our engagement,

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<v Speaker 2>because I learned my lesson is I bought her just

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<v Speaker 2>a very simple solitaire and then I said, this is

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<v Speaker 2>just the centerpiece. You go build the ring around it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what we did. We are up here in

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<v Speaker 2>have we told people.

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<v Speaker 4>Where we are Carmel. We do this trip every year.

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<v Speaker 4>We've done it for the past few years at least.

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<v Speaker 5>So one of the benefits of having a podcast with

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<v Speaker 5>iHeart are these trips that we get to do together.

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<v Speaker 5>And over the years we've invited all these people who

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<v Speaker 5>are coming through Bachelor Nation and you know, maybe in

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<v Speaker 5>the headlines or just like the most current lead.

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<v Speaker 2>People, we just really want to hang out.

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<v Speaker 3>But now it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Turned into people that not only are recent but like

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<v Speaker 5>that we just really want to hang out with and

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<v Speaker 5>we catch up on our lives, we get to spend

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<v Speaker 5>some time together. It really becomes a celebration. We have

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<v Speaker 5>to do some fun stuff. We're here this week because

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<v Speaker 5>the AT and T pro am is going on at Pebble,

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<v Speaker 5>uh and it's a really fun week.

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<v Speaker 3>That's very active city.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a cool city and so uh yeah, we'll put

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<v Speaker 5>up some good content for all of our shows.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be catching up with a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 5>But really this is just people we want to hang

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<v Speaker 5>out with now, Like, let's find an excuse to hang

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<v Speaker 5>out again.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, it's been fun texting with you guys as we've

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<v Speaker 2>been leading up to this, and like Guiney texted me

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<v Speaker 2>last night, He's like, Okay, I'm gonna admit I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So Guinea's here, Firestone's here, the three of us, Wells

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<v Speaker 2>Adams of course his brother Brett. I just don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like a penny just rub me. Yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 2>keeps showing up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm excited you're here with the group because I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like you're always up here this same of year, but

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<v Speaker 4>we haven't had the chance to all spend time together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've been I guess I well, I used to

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<v Speaker 2>play in the AT and T. It's changed so this year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird because it's this not to get into golf,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's an elevated event, so it's like half the

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<v Speaker 2>field and half the celebs and all that. So but

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<v Speaker 2>the cool thing is there's some absolute studs up here,

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<v Speaker 2>so it to be fun. It'll be it'll be a

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<v Speaker 2>great time. And I know I've never been able just

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<v Speaker 2>to hang.

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<v Speaker 3>With you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we're here at the La Petite yeah PLI.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's hard to find on a map, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>a great hotel, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Very cute hotel.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's hotel. There's two of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mistakenly brought us to the Ocean one and

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<v Speaker 4>we're at the the eighth Avenue one.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love this town. This is one of my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite places in the world, just this part of Carmel, Monterey,

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<v Speaker 2>the peninsula out here.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it tough with you traveling to places like this

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<v Speaker 4>because when I for firm experience when I go, like

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<v Speaker 4>when Kaylen and I came here for the first time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we're walking around and she's like, I want to live

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<v Speaker 4>here more than anything in the entire world because it's

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<v Speaker 4>so beautiful and so great. And I was like, Kayln,

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<v Speaker 4>look at that house. It looks like crap. It's seven

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<v Speaker 4>million dollars, you know, seventeen Yeah, but even like the

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<v Speaker 4>bad ones are seven million.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's insane here. I've looked at prices here.

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<v Speaker 5>She's never been here. She's coming for the first time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>this will be your first trip. And she's a huge reader.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, and she loves like little bookstores and cafes and

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<v Speaker 3>good dinners. And so I was like, if you do

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<v Speaker 3>any trip with me this year, this is a trip.

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<v Speaker 3>I really When she come on, I think you're gonna love.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is how great this place is. Lauren comes

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<v Speaker 2>with me when I play. She loves it. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>we usually stay at the lodge over there at Spanish

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<v Speaker 2>or wherever. And it's like you walk on pebble Beach.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just this town is great to get lost in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>little little tasting rooms, just stopping at some oysters and

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<v Speaker 2>some chowder, and it's cool. It's everything's kind of cozy here.

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<v Speaker 3>Even the airport's got the good chowder the airport.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So yeah, l Z, it's really weird. She told

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<v Speaker 2>the story. She's a big chowder person and she will

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<v Speaker 2>eat she will eat the weirdest stuff no matter where

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<v Speaker 2>it is. And her some of her favorite chowder is

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<v Speaker 2>at the Monterey Airport. No way, But what's your take

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<v Speaker 2>on she took it on the plane.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's not a big deal. That's a bad deal, clams.

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<v Speaker 3>I closed.

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<v Speaker 5>Ashley just brought a tuna sandwich on the plane last week,

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<v Speaker 5>and I gave a really hard time.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a bad movie.

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<v Speaker 5>She's not here, right, She's not here because she nat

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<v Speaker 5>I'm pregnant now, kid, So I do have a rundown

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<v Speaker 5>of who's here this week, and so I want to

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<v Speaker 5>make sure to give everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh so, let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Film me it because I I don't mean to be

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<v Speaker 2>a well yeah, I kind of do, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably won't know some of these people. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to fill me in.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, Yeah, so I ask anybody you don't know, and

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<v Speaker 5>and Dean and I will give you the run down.

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<v Speaker 3>That'll be fun.

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<v Speaker 5>So uh, outside of us, So, Kaylin's here, Wells is here,

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<v Speaker 5>Sarah's coming up, Wells's wife love her most.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just with him last week. Sarah got this

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<v Speaker 3>incredible tour of Disney that was wild.

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<v Speaker 2>That was weird. We need to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Bob Guiney and his wife Canyon obviously Horne Zema

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<v Speaker 5>is here.

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<v Speaker 2>She's pretty hot.

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<v Speaker 5>So now we're getting into the people that you might

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<v Speaker 5>have questions about. Okay, Kathy schwartz you know Kathy schwartz

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<v Speaker 5>Is I don't know Kathy Schwartzel. It was a recent

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<v Speaker 5>uh maybe at one point in her life. She's in

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<v Speaker 5>her seventies. Oh, she was on the Golden Bachelor. Susan Knowles,

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<v Speaker 5>who was on the Golden Bachelor, also a model. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean probably a model. She was the one that

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<v Speaker 5>officiated the wedding. She's a brain surgeon, is she really?

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<v Speaker 5>I think she's an efficient Okay, that's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Justin Glaize and Susie Evans. So Justin Glaze on a

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<v Speaker 5>recent season he had to be a stunt man, and Susie.

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<v Speaker 3>Evans was the one that Clayton picked.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, they recently just announced their dating and they came

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<v Speaker 5>all the way here to give us some exclusive content

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<v Speaker 5>and interviews about their dating life.

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<v Speaker 2>This is exciting.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Andrew Firestone and Havana Firestone, Brett Adams, as he said,

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<v Speaker 5>and then Jason Tartick is here as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the list of the people that have came

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<v Speaker 3>to Carmel.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good mix. It's a good honestly though. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. One of the things I love about iHeart

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<v Speaker 2>and being a part of this is, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>will meet these people at some point and it's like

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's great because obviously I haven't been a part

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<v Speaker 2>of the franchise for I don't know, got three or

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<v Speaker 2>four years now, so I don't know so many people

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<v Speaker 2>that have been a part of the show, and and

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<v Speaker 2>when I you know, and obviously I don't watch, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't know the storylines and all that. But

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<v Speaker 2>when I meet these people, nine times out of ten,

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<v Speaker 2>they are unbelievably lovely and it's fun to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>add them to the family. There was one one guy,

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<v Speaker 2>forget who was one of he was I think he

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<v Speaker 2>might have been the Bachelor or something. He lives in Austin,

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<v Speaker 2>Zach maybe Zach.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, he's a good guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to hear about the one out of ten

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<v Speaker 4>times stories oh for another time, for no time.

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<v Speaker 2>No, there's I mean, look, even you know, people always

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<v Speaker 2>ask me, and I'm sure they asked you guys, do

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<v Speaker 2>you like everybody? Or who's you know? And most of

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<v Speaker 2>the time I liked the Bacheler I liked the Bachelorette,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's always those outliers that you just don't get

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<v Speaker 2>along with. It's impossible. We've met thousands of people at

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<v Speaker 2>this point after twenty years. You know they're not all great.

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<v Speaker 5>There's more people that I like than I don't like.

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<v Speaker 5>But there's definitely people that I have would prefer never

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<v Speaker 5>to see again.

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<v Speaker 2>Like who give us one name, Give us one name.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't do that. I'm not that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But I felt like we just made eye contact. We're

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<v Speaker 2>thinking of the same person.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Three one two three webs answer that. But now I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think Wells has worn out as welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>I's be honest, he's been around. But Dick, it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a good group.

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<v Speaker 5>You can look forward to good cond I'm actually excited

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<v Speaker 5>because I've been with them and they love the show

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<v Speaker 5>when you were on the show, when you were there,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're very funny, and they're they have so much

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<v Speaker 5>energy and they love getting together so much. They're very

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<v Speaker 5>sweet women who are just gonna have a blast year

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<v Speaker 5>and double down the amount of wine that you and

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<v Speaker 5>I could drink together. They will consume on their own.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to talk about Disney Okay, when does it

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<v Speaker 2>become weird that six adults with no kids are at

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<v Speaker 2>Disney with the shirts and the ears and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm not judging.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying you're asking questions. Yeah, can I ask

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<v Speaker 3>a question to return?

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<v Speaker 2>No, just gut instinct. Six adults at Disney with no kids.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it really depends on the amount of times

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<v Speaker 4>that you go. If you're going once a week, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's weird and bad, not bad. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>say bad. Disney adults are cool. I will say one

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<v Speaker 4>set of every ten years, maybe it's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're telling me, l Z. If you were like,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to Disney, those zero chances she's going to Disney.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't like We don't like crowds, we don't like amusement.

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<v Speaker 5>No, but if you had a plaid, which literally I

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<v Speaker 5>know refers you to the back, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>To all the rides you're in and out of those things. No.

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<v Speaker 2>I look, I've talked to LZ about this.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a Disney girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god. No. We like Disney movies and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, were not anti Disney, but we would never

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<v Speaker 2>go to Disney World or disneyl like that would be

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<v Speaker 2>our nightmare.

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<v Speaker 3>I will tell you this, it was.

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<v Speaker 5>That would be a last So what we did was

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<v Speaker 5>we did have the whole tour thing. Yeah, we got

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<v Speaker 5>to ride all the rides and then we'd drink around

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<v Speaker 5>the world at Epcot one day. It was a really

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<v Speaker 5>fun trick I went.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, my kids grew up around Disney because

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<v Speaker 2>obviously when I started the show, the kids were born

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<v Speaker 2>Abc Disney, same family, so I got the benefit of

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<v Speaker 2>seeing it through my kid's eyes. And in all seriousness,

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it, and we got to do some crazy

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<v Speaker 2>things Disney cruises and all that. I just know it's

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things I'll never go back. Interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>I just make my kids are in their twenties now,

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<v Speaker 2>and unless maybe my grandkids go or something. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't go as an adult.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 5>I think after going, I would only say the reason

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<v Speaker 5>we want to go back, it's kids would be unless

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<v Speaker 5>we had a guide. Again, yes, because all we we

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<v Speaker 5>actually played a game where we had a drinking game

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<v Speaker 5>about how many kids we saw one on leashes and

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<v Speaker 5>then two crying, and it looked it looked like a

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<v Speaker 5>terrible day for a parent, like, unless your kids are

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<v Speaker 5>a certain age, it looks like a Really.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a nightmare. It's an expensive nightmare. And you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>this and you get back to the hotel, you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>why did I just spend twenty grand?

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta say, after hearing both of the guys talk

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<v Speaker 4>about it, I'm more on your side now. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think I'll ever go to Disney unless it's like a

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<v Speaker 4>work function for whatever that means. If a friend's out

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<v Speaker 4>of town visiting and they're like dying to go, then

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<v Speaker 4>maybe I would go. But I would never you know,

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<v Speaker 4>ask Kayln if she wants to go to spend the

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<v Speaker 4>week at Disneyland.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it is still a magical place? Will like?

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<v Speaker 5>There was moments like on Guardians of the Galaxy where

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<v Speaker 5>I felt like a kid again. There were rides that

0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 5>I got very scared for or very nervous for. Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a different perspective, but I would still I would

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:13.800
<v Speaker 5>encourage anybody to go as an adult. I think Jessic

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<v Speaker 5>and I, even if it was just the two of us,

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<v Speaker 5>would have had a great time because without the plaid,

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<v Speaker 5>well it's hard to say the plaid is really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no lines, you get ride right as wild. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you feel a little guilty. Laura and I've had this

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<v Speaker 2>discussion too, where you know, it was my my ex

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<v Speaker 2>wife and the kids and we'd be there and it

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of you had to tell the kids because

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of go in through the exits and you know,

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:39.720
<v Speaker 2>you're standing across and everyone's been standing in line for hours.

0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 2>They're giving you the death stare, and I'm like, don't

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:43.240
<v Speaker 2>don't look at them, just don't look at them in

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<v Speaker 2>the eye. You're just we're just let's get on. Let's

0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:48.399
<v Speaker 2>just act like things out of normal here, because you

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:51.960
<v Speaker 2>really feel very small and horrible, not so much that

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<v Speaker 2>you won't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I did it. I did it. You guys want

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<v Speaker 3>to hear the story that I haven't shared yet.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm I'm pretty fearful of roller coasters and it

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<v Speaker 5>took me a bit to kind of get into them.

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<v Speaker 5>But we went on the Tower of Terror, which is

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<v Speaker 5>maybe my most not.

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<v Speaker 2>A roller coaster, you're just bouncing up and down in

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:06.960
<v Speaker 2>your chair, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But definitely the ride I was most nervous for that.

0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 5>I was hoping nobody wanted to go on, but they did,

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<v Speaker 5>so I'm in the back and I'm like this, this

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:17.400
<v Speaker 5>isn't my thing, Like I don't enjoy this, the heights

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 5>and everything. And so I'm sitting in the back of

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<v Speaker 5>the ride and the door is closing, and what Chris's

0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 5>point is, you do come through the exit. So everybody's

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 5>kind of maddie you or there staring at you, and

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 5>they're like, this is stupid.

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 3>And there's this little girl. She can't be any more

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<v Speaker 3>than ten years old. She looks at me as the

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<v Speaker 3>doors closed. This is not a joke. You can ask anybody,

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:36.720
<v Speaker 3>and she goes.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey you, hey you, and I look up. She goes,

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<v Speaker 5>you're gonna die tonight. You can ask.

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 3>Wells Brad say.

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<v Speaker 5>They all heard it, and I'm in the back and

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 5>they already knew I was nervous, and they all look

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 5>at me and I'm like.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like some like shining stuff. That's crazy.

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.119
<v Speaker 5>Internextor I think she was just very angry that we

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 5>cut the line, and I think she was trying to

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<v Speaker 5>get back in me.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought, it's not even the ride, like I'm

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 2>going I'm going to haunt you, I'm gonna kill you.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, you guys had the whole ride to yourselves that

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 3>we did. Okay, yeah, by the way.

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 2>That's just what a bunch of elitists. No, look, it

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:20.120
<v Speaker 2>looked like y'all had fun. I just I don't know, man.

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I just like if you called me and said, hey, like, well,

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Sarah Jessn are going, I'm like, yeah, No, Like, we'll

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 2>meet you guys for dinner.

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:31.200
<v Speaker 4>What would it take to get you a minus the grandkids?

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<v Speaker 4>What would it take do you think to get to

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<v Speaker 4>you to Disneyland?

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<v Speaker 2>A massive amount of money. It would be a huge

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<v Speaker 2>endorsement deal, which I don't think is gonna happen now

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<v Speaker 2>after this endorsement. I just I did it. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a phase of my life with my kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was I will say, I get it like

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I saw it through their eyes. And when you do

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 2>see it through your children's eyes, you know, you go

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:53.359
<v Speaker 2>through the phases too. Of the first time you go,

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 2>you're not even really going on rides as much as oh,

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 2>let's go see the princesses, let's go see Mickey Mouse.

0:25:57.880 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 2>You do all that, and then you go, you know,

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 2>the small rides, teacup, and then you graduate to the

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:06.080
<v Speaker 2>roller coasters, and I will say, Disneyland and Disney World

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:09.119
<v Speaker 2>are very different. When you're with a plaid, as you

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 2>call it, you kind of are just in a van

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 2>all day. You drive a lot. When you're Disneyland, you're

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:16.479
<v Speaker 2>just you go out of the park and you're there

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 2>all day. But so you're like, oh, we want to

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 2>go on this ride. You drive to the back of

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 2>that ride and you go and it's it is, it's heaven,

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 2>it's I see.

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<v Speaker 4>The marketing material now after they hire you, the a

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 4>bunch of quick shots. You haven't fun at the very end.

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:31.680
<v Speaker 4>Disney even Chris Harrison likes it now.

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 2>So maybe I can be convinced.

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<v Speaker 5>Sarah, Sarah and my wife are like huge Disney kids,

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<v Speaker 5>Like they're just grown adults that love Disney the song.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah they are.

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:47.880
<v Speaker 5>They find magic and seeing everything there and I really

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 5>had a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to bring up a subject because I've never

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 2>talked about this ever, and I want to know if

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 2>you remember this me. Yes, okay, Dean, So we're in Paradise.

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Did you do you do Paradise? Just once?

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 3>I did it second time?

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, so I don't know if it was first

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:20.680
<v Speaker 2>or second, but so so what happens is when we

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 2>get to rose ceremony. It's four or five in the

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:25.439
<v Speaker 2>morning whatever, and we separate the men and the women,

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 2>right because we're about to go into the rose ceremony.

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 2>And if you remember in Paradise, I don't know if

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 2>it's still like this, but they would choose each other,

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:33.919
<v Speaker 2>so you had to separate, finish up interviews and all that.

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 2>So the women would be taken like up to the

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 2>dinner area they little gathering where the bar is, and

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:41.399
<v Speaker 2>the guys we'd usually kind of take down to the

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 2>beach where Wells is at the bar, and and so

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:46.400
<v Speaker 2>we're down at the beach. I'd come hang with you guys.

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 2>So we had like an hour. You got to turn

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:50.640
<v Speaker 2>the room around and get the you know, cameras set

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 2>and the director's taking a look at the lights and

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 2>all that. So there's like an hour and a half

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 2>where we're just killing time. And so we're all really tired.

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 2>And so you and I are down there, we're staying

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 2>together at the beach, and you say to me, it's

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 2>like and again it's so late and we're tired, and

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 2>you go, so you have enough money to retire, right

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 2>do you?

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Why do you do this?

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:20.199
<v Speaker 2>And I said, yeah, Dean, I said, you know, I

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 2>honestly probably could you know, step away and live a

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 2>pretty good life. And you go, so why do you

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 2>do this? Why why are you still working? And that

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 2>is stuck with me.

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 3>Man, it's hot.

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, kind of like that little girl says she's going

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 2>to murder you. I was like, huh. And you know

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 2>my initial reaction was and my answer was, I honestly

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 2>like what I do? I enjoy TV. I like making TV.

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 2>But at the time, I thought, you know, maybe I

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 2>don't like I'm I'm on this beach at four in

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 2>the morning with a bunch of people, some of my.

0:28:57.680 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Life drunk years old, I drunk twenty three year olds.

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I'm away from my kids, I'm away

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 2>from my family, and I don't think I was married

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 2>at the time, but I'm like, if I was dating anybody,

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm away from whoever I'm dating, and you know, I'm

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 2>not going to date anybody. And at the Vedanta so

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, it's like a weird, lonely month.

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 2>And that's how I spent my life, was separate, lonely

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 2>months of just traveling around the world. And I'm like,

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>it really stuck with me, and so I asked Dean.

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 2>I said, well, if you could walk away, would you?

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 2>And I don't if you remember what you said. You said, yeah, man,

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 2>if I could like make enough money to live for

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<v Speaker 2>a month or so, I'm going to drop out and

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 2>go live for a month. Yeah, and then I'll come

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 2>back and make enough to live for another month. And

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I thought, what kind of like how Calin resents you

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 2>for how free? I thought, this guy really hasn't figured

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 2>out maybe like and maybe I'm like on this, I'm

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 2>like a Gerbil on this like treadmill.

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 3>You want to so about that?

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 4>So the first time I did the show, the first

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<v Speaker 4>few times I did the show, I would just resort

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 4>to drinking the whole time, because you know, you have

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 4>a lot of downtime and you're around a of people

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 4>that you kind of know but don't know super well,

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 4>so you just drink just to like ease the tension

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 4>or whatever. That season, I wasn't I didn't drink announce alcohol,

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 4>and so I was around all these drunk people the

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 4>whole time, and so I didn't want to listen to

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 4>anyone talk. So I was just like literally sitting there

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 4>thinking all the time.

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 3>And then it just hit me. I was like, what

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 3>is he? What is he doing this? What is he

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 3>doing here?

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Why is he staying in a suit and tie on.

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 4>A beach in the middle of a monsoon, Like we're

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 4>on a mont soon? Hold right now? Oh my gosh,

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 4>that's funny.

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 3>But you did it. I mean, you gave the best

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 3>answer possible.

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 4>And I do see your point, Like, if you really

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 4>love doing it, that's great, but you I mean, I

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 4>think where I was coming from with it was you've

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 4>done it for so long, You've already kind of like

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 4>established and proven your worth and all that stuff, and

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 4>like if I was I think what I was actually

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 4>thinking was if I was in your position, I would

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 4>just golf every single day. And I know you love

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 4>golf too, So that's kind of what I was coming from.

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 2>But you know what's funny is so when I left

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 2>the show and I decided to part ways with them,

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 2>I thought about that question, and I cause I had

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>such relief. And Ben and I have talked a little

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 2>bit about this, about that weight off my shoulders, and

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 2>I really you know, and I've I've mentioned before how

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 2>things were very toxic and you guys know what was

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 2>going on and all the things behind the scenes, and

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, I was. When I left, I'm like, you know,

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 2>those words kind of stuck with me. I'm like, why

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 2>was I there? Like I wasn't happy. I was kind

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 2>of I kind of lied to myself and lied to

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 2>other people of how happy I was. And I realized

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 2>later he's right, like I love doing what I do

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 2>for a living. I enjoy this passion of TV, but

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't it anymore. And and it's it was really

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 2>weird how that, like that really hit me. And I

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 2>was even thinking about it in the shower this morning

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 2>because I knew you and I were going to be

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 2>talking and I remembered that, and I'm like, he was right,

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 2>like I wasn't happy, And I was thinking, did he

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 2>know I wasn't happy at the time?

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 3>You know?

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Was he looking into my soul? And so I was.

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 2>It was really interesting how I never told you how

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>much that stuck with me. And I don't know if

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 2>you said it flippantly or if you actually meant to

0:31:58.080 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 2>have that deep of a conversation.

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's kind of hard to pull away from everything

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 4>I was going on to try to, but I was

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 4>genuinely just curious about it. I remember the first time

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 4>we met too. I walked up to you. We were

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 4>at the Bachelor mansion and I was like, hey, Chris.

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 4>Remember I don't know if you remember this, but Tomorrio

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 4>and Rachel or even their whole big thing. He came

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 4>back to the mansion. Everyone's outside, and I walked up

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 4>to you and I was like, hey, Chris, how's it going.

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 4>You look at me dead in the eyes, and you go, Dane,

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm doing really really well, man, how are you?

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, the does he know my name?

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 3>How does he have any idea who I am right now?

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 4>And that's really suck with me a lot too, actually

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 4>funny enough, but I remember I got back into the

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 4>mansion later that night and one of my buddies, who

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 4>I was like kind of buddies, but at that point,

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 4>was like he thought I was a producer plant because

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 4>he's like, I'm pretty sure Chris doesn't know anyone's name

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 4>here except for yours.

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, that's news to me. That's it.

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 2>I remember, you know, especially back in the day, I

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 2>would I used to get a book on everybody. They'd

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 2>give me a book and I would memorize everybody's name,

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 2>where they're from. I mean I used to have a picture,

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 2>but then I kind of went by the wayside, and

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 2>then I would just get to know people through through

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 2>the show, and inevitably, the producers would obviously tell me, Hey,

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 2>there's this guy Dean we really like. They would tell

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 2>me who the front runners, you know, of who we

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 2>thought it was. It didn't always turn out that way,

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 2>but they're like, oh, this Ben guy is gonna be

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 2>really good. But yeah, I was. And some people just

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 2>get to kind of hit it off with more than most,

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 2>and that night one I would, you know, usually kind

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 2>of walk through the house, get the vibe and kind

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 2>of see some people, and then the producers would tell

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 2>me to get the hell out. They're like, I'm bugging

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm bugging everybody and ruining the mood or whatever.

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 2>But I was curious with Ben, if you could walk

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 2>away right now, I don't know what your number.

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 4>Is, if you could last for a month and then

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 4>like go back in a month and start working.

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's say let's say let's say I don't know,

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 2>let's say general numbers like twelve twelve million. Let's say

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 2>you hit that twelve million Mark, that's my number. Would

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 2>you walk.

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Away from what, like everything everything just kind of chill.

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 2>And maybe just keep your passion project, whatever you truly

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 2>love or do you love what you do?

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 5>Generous woulde hundred percent stay? The coffee would one hundred

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 5>percent stay. I dream like one day of doing that

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 5>when I'm like and like people ripping it from my hands. Yeah,

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 5>everything else, Like if if I heart said hey, here's

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 5>twelve million.

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Bucks ADVI say I'm good, see you guys a podcast anymore,

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm out, Like that would just be nice. So if

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 3>anybody wants to do, that'd be great.

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 5>But there's a few things in my life that would stay,

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:28.879
<v Speaker 5>but not I. You know, I think for me, what's

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 5>happened oddly, and as I'm listening to him thinking about this,

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:37.240
<v Speaker 5>you had like a very successful career, You had built

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.640
<v Speaker 5>something you were, you were known you were, you know,

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 5>you're crushing it, you're in it, and you easily could

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 5>have said, hey, I'm done, and everybody been like, well done,

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 5>Like you put your heart and soul into this thing

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:51.440
<v Speaker 5>right there? Really isn't that for me right now? Like

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 5>there isn't that. Generous is the closest thing to it.

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 5>The podcast has been going on for eight years. It's

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 5>getting close to what I feel like, Hey, if anything

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 5>were to happen to it, or if like it ends,

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 5>then maybe somebody would say that was a good run,

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 5>Like you did well, that you worked hard on, that

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:09.280
<v Speaker 5>you busted it for it. It's getting closer and closer.

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:11.360
<v Speaker 5>It feels like something that could stick with me. But

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 5>I don't have that thing right now. Necessarily they're all

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 5>pretty new and and so I don't know what to

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:19.359
<v Speaker 5>be walking away from.

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll admit I got competitive. I'm a hugely competitive person,

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 2>whether we're golfing, playing checkers, whatever. I'm just I've always

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:31.239
<v Speaker 2>been competitive. I hate losing, and so I definitely got

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:34.720
<v Speaker 2>caught up in that. Of Partly I enjoyed the show,

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 2>but also I enjoyed like hosting Miss America and getting

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:40.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, the next thing and the next thing. I've

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 2>always like been a chaser of things. That's always been

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 2>my mo to this day, I'm always chasing things. That's

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 2>where I don't know if it's where I get my happiness,

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 2>but I'm definitely happiest when I'm doing that. I have

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 2>a hard time just shutting it down.

0:35:58.280 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 5>I had to rip it away two years ago when

0:35:59.960 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 5>I went through I mean I moved back home. Even

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:04.359
<v Speaker 5>when Jessica and I were dating, I moved back home

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 5>because it was like that time that we've well Dean

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 5>and I have experienced probably where you like the Bachelor

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:11.720
<v Speaker 5>and then stuff isn't getting You're not getting calls anymore,

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 5>You're not getting the opportunities used to and like it

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 5>was an identity crisis where stuff was It felt like

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 5>I was trying to be competitive but nothing was working,

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 5>like nobody was responding to anything.

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:24.240
<v Speaker 3>And that was hard.

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 5>And so that took about six months for me to

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 5>kind of reposition and find something new. So what are

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:33.280
<v Speaker 5>you now? Like, what is what is that competitive?

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:34.240
<v Speaker 3>Where's your outlet?

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, there was a part of me, a really sick

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 2>part of me that when everything happened, I kind of

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 2>got excited again. It took a minute, but to start over,

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 2>like to start from ground zero, I can start. I

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 2>can do anything now. And look, yes, there was the

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 2>cushion of I had twenty years worth of very great

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 2>success and money and all that. But I was able

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 2>to kind of reinvent myself and figure out what I

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 2>really want to do, and that that to me is exciting.

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 2>I love a blank slate. I love that exciting. Like

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 2>there was I remember there's a long time ago that

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:13.320
<v Speaker 2>there was a show deal or no deal that Howie

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Mandel was doing. They were moving it into syndication, and

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 2>there's other this this other game show and they had

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:22.359
<v Speaker 2>asked me to come in an audition and I and

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I hadn't auditioned in a while. I just typically what

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:27.239
<v Speaker 2>happens was I mean, I hate to say this, but

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 2>when you get to that level of the bats or

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 2>and when you're doing all that stuff, usually you just

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 2>get a call like, hey, we want you to host

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Miss America. Hey will you host who wants to be

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 2>a Millionaire? That stuff is appro They approach you, you're not

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:41.799
<v Speaker 2>approaching them. And so there was this show and they

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 2>had me auditioned for it and I had to, you know,

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:46.480
<v Speaker 2>read the sides and go through the process. And I

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 2>was I was nervous, and I was excited, and I

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 2>hadn't had that much fun in a long time. And

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 2>just that fear of failure and the ability to fail,

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:58.840
<v Speaker 2>I think, is a very exciting thing to me. It's enticing.

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 2>It's why I like, It's why I like playing in

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 2>these celebrity things. Is walking on that tightrope and not

0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 2>having a net below you and really being able to

0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 2>fall on your face is exciting to me. I don't know.

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:15.360
<v Speaker 2>The being so nervous you can barely stand it and

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:19.320
<v Speaker 2>having to go out and perform is fun. To prove

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 2>to yourself you can do it, and to harness that

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:23.279
<v Speaker 2>and to walk out in front of an audience or

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:25.319
<v Speaker 2>do whatever, and you know you're good at what you

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 2>do and to actually do it, to me is phenomenal.

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I love that. I still get off on.

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 3>That by this therapist a long time ago.

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:35.360
<v Speaker 4>This is kind of tangential here, but this therapist a

0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:38.399
<v Speaker 4>long time ago who said to me obviously that I

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 4>like to dig myself into a hole just to see

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 4>if I can get myself out of it. Yeah, not

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 4>saying that's what you're doing, but there is something to

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.960
<v Speaker 4>be said about, Like for you, you're saying the grind

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:49.439
<v Speaker 4>never stops, like you're always excited to achieve new things

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.920
<v Speaker 4>and that type of stuff. For me personally, I know

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.719
<v Speaker 4>no one asked, but I'll answer the question anyways. I

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 4>feel like I'm looking for a generous or I'm looking

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 4>for something that I can like wake up for wake

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 4>up and be excited to accomplish that day.

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 3>And it hasn't hit me yet.

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 4>But I have gotten to this point now where you know,

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:11.920
<v Speaker 4>you come off the show and I'm sure you experienced

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 4>this too, where brands are just gonna give you money

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:17.800
<v Speaker 4>for posting a picture. You don't have to work especially

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 4>hard for it. You just have to do what they

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 4>ask and then they'll pay you. And it's like it's

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 4>in me, at least over the past couple of years.

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 4>It's embedded this like laziness in me where I'm just like, oh,

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:28.840
<v Speaker 4>I don't need to do anything. This brand is just

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 4>gonna give me money for posting a picture, So what

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 4>does it matter? And it's gotten frustrating. It's not feeding you,

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:36.959
<v Speaker 4>oh not at all. I'm really disappointed in myself because

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't have like the fire that I once had

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.320
<v Speaker 4>a long time ago, when I was living paycheck to

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 4>paycheck and you know, if I didn't get paid.

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 3>One week, I wouldn't be able to pay rent.

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:47.839
<v Speaker 2>So like if you had a dream, like you're like, okay, Dean,

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:51.319
<v Speaker 2>here's ten million dollars, go start this. What yeah, what

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 2>do you know? That's what would that be.

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 3>I asked myself that every single day.

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 4>When I went on the Bachelorette, i quit my job

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, in one year, I'll have my

0:39:57.719 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 4>dream figured out.

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 3>And it's been six years now, seven years now. It's crazy.

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 4>And that's why I'm so envious of you guys who

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 4>have been able to find your niche or your whatever

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:09.319
<v Speaker 4>it is and really just lean into it and be

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:10.359
<v Speaker 4>successful at it, you know.

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 5>Well, and part of that is just I had a

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:15.719
<v Speaker 5>friend say, hey, like, this is You're never gonna do

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.319
<v Speaker 5>this thing. Well, like, this is never if you try

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:20.319
<v Speaker 5>to stay relevant and if you run this race, you've

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 5>never been made for this. You've got to You've got

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 5>to find something that could be bigger than yourself.

0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, he's right, I mean eventually it it is a

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.160
<v Speaker 2>roller coaster ride it you know, what goes up must

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 2>come down. It's like it's so yeah, I agree, it's

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 2>like trying to chase that relevancy is impossible, you know.

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 2>But I will take umbrage of you're going to stay

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 2>relevant like you are the rest of your life. You're

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:48.160
<v Speaker 2>going to be relevant to a certain degree. It won't

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 2>be the super hot you know that that you were,

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 2>but you're always gonna be relevant. Both of you are, like,

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 2>so you're always gonna have a modicum of fame and

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 2>a modicum of acknowledgment in that way. It's just how

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 2>you use it and that will change. And that's that's

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 2>something I learned a long time ago. I came to

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 2>it from a very different place than you guys did,

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 2>because you guys were shot out of a cannon. You know,

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:11.320
<v Speaker 2>y'all went from zero to one thousand miles.

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 5>Being done like that was maybe the hardest part. We

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 5>didn't we don't have any tangible skill sets.

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.879
<v Speaker 2>Well, well it was, I would well, I mean, that's that's

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 2>cutting yourself short, both of you. The problem is what

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:25.839
<v Speaker 2>I found interesting in watching you guys, and I say

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:28.280
<v Speaker 2>you guys in the plural of everybody on the show.

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I had a steady assent, so I had a wonderful foundation.

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 2>And that was honestly easier for me because I have

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 2>a foundation of television. I've been doing it for over

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 2>thirty years, from broadcasting and majoring in it. When you

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:45.360
<v Speaker 2>guys were shot out of a cannon, it was almost

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 2>unfair because like, well, y'all don't have the foundation, so

0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 2>you had to quickly start building something that you weren't

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 2>even aware of. You didn't even know what you were building.

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 2>And so I admired that in both of you that

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 2>you found a niche and you've both held onto it

0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 2>very well and built businesses around something that.

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 2>I know, people listening to this go, oh, well, it's

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:05.439
<v Speaker 2>so easy. I was like, he was on a show

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 2>and he did this, and he did this. It's like, no, man,

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:10.799
<v Speaker 2>think about how many people have flamed out, how many

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:12.719
<v Speaker 2>people have gone by the wayside, and you guys have not.

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 2>I admire that. I really respect both of you for that.

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:18.279
<v Speaker 2>And and you know, Kaylin the same way. And some

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:19.880
<v Speaker 2>of these others who have come through the show and

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Becca and who have really made a life out of

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 2>something that didn't start that way. And that's not easy.

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 3>I gotta say, Becky might be doing the best out

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:31.239
<v Speaker 3>of any of us girls killing it. Yeah, you know.

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 2>And it's honestly, it's easier for women. It is much

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 2>easier for women to do brand endorsements. They get thrown

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 2>a lot more.

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 5>I don't sell anything, like I don't know what people

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 5>want me to sell, but like my wife sell a

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 5>bajillion products, and I do the same thing, and it's

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 5>like two people.

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Lauren does a lot more than me. Yeah, you know,

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 2>and I have ten times the followers. Yeah, but it's

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 2>the women have you know, because those are the purchasers,

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:56.799
<v Speaker 2>those are the people that.

0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Are buying things.

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 2>And but yeah, I mean, I I'm excited for my

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 2>next chapter either is. I'll tell you guys, there's some

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:07.719
<v Speaker 2>exciting stuff coming up very soon.

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:10.799
<v Speaker 5>Goodness, gracious, very since the best teas we've ever got.

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 5>Can we just end on that?

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's I'm really I haven't been this

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 2>excited in a long time, and can anymore. Well, I'll

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:18.840
<v Speaker 2>say this to your point, I thought about your question.

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I do love what I do. I'm very excited to

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 2>get back to it. And but I learned from my

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:32.760
<v Speaker 2>mistakes of don't just do it to do it, don't

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.000
<v Speaker 2>don't just jump into something. I want to be happy

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:36.759
<v Speaker 2>and I want to love what I'm doing, and so

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:40.800
<v Speaker 2>I was able to find a passion project and something

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 2>I truly love and do this with the woman I love,

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 2>and I cannot wait. There is something very imminent, very

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:51.520
<v Speaker 2>exciting on the horizon. I haven't talked to anybody about it,

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Like literally, you two are the only one outside the

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:56.320
<v Speaker 2>outside of my bedroom that I've talked to this about.

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 3>But do you have a lot of energy right now?

0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:00.399
<v Speaker 2>Like are you Yeah, I'm on a high right now. Yeah,

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:04.040
<v Speaker 2>it's I'm really excited. I've been this excited in twenty years.

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:04.840
<v Speaker 3>That's awesome.

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's gonna be cool.

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Let's go.

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:07.799
<v Speaker 4>Well, and you Morena are kind of a power couple too,

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:09.800
<v Speaker 4>I would say, like, she's always been a great broadcast.

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 3>Now this Laura, Okay, I knew I was going to

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:18.399
<v Speaker 3>say yes, no, no, no, no, no, no.

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 4>You guys are like, she's so she's so good at

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 4>what she does and obviously you had twenty years is

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 4>an incredible run for anything.

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 2>So she's a badass. And in my dream and you

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 2>talk about what you want to love and I was like,

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:33.279
<v Speaker 2>if I do something, I'm doing it with you, like

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:36.359
<v Speaker 2>I never again will I? And I hate to say

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:37.920
<v Speaker 2>never because my mom always taught me not to, so

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 2>it always rings in my ears when I say that word.

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I'm not going to be alone on

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 2>the road ever again. Living that life, it was a

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 2>it was a very empty life. I was very blessed

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 2>and people have heard me say this many times. I

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 2>loved what I did. I am not at all begrudging

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:54.839
<v Speaker 2>that life. It was wonderful and it changed my life.

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:56.840
<v Speaker 2>But I'm not going to go back to that. I

0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 2>have the choice now to not go back to it.

0:44:58.760 --> 0:44:59.919
<v Speaker 2>I guess that's what I should say.

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 3>And you at all to me, I do.

0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:04.440
<v Speaker 2>And when I say you, I mean Ben.

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:06.720
<v Speaker 3>Chris.

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 5>Just before we go, I do have a funny story

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:10.319
<v Speaker 5>because I'm so excited for you.

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:11.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know that.

0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:14.480
<v Speaker 5>I think you're the best to ever do it. So

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:15.919
<v Speaker 5>whatever this next thing is, I think.

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna go. But thank you.

0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 5>I want to know if this is true, because if

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 5>if it's not, I've lied to Hannah, who works on

0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 5>our show. We just recently rented out the Bachelor Mansion

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:29.799
<v Speaker 5>and did a whole kind of similar thing there. We

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 5>brought in a lot of cool people, did a lot

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 5>of interviews in one night, and we specifically our room

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 5>for almost famous was a closet, and I said, I

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 5>think this is where Chris used to sleep on the

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 5>first night on.

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:46.399
<v Speaker 3>Front Door two rights no upstairs master bedrooms? Was I wrong?

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Or that was like life was so janky back in

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:52.360
<v Speaker 2>the day, Like towards the end, I got a trailer

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:55.160
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. But in the beginning, well, I

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:57.759
<v Speaker 2>first started shooting there. We did stuff so on the cheap,

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 2>and and so we would use that master closet and

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 2>as not only a dressing room, but it was the

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:07.320
<v Speaker 2>only place I could hang where I knew no cameras

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 2>would come nobody would come in, and so I would

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 2>just lay pillows down and I would climb under in

0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:14.359
<v Speaker 2>the closet under the racks, and that's where i'd sleep

0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:15.440
<v Speaker 2>until they got me.

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 5>They were shocked. The team was shocked. I was like,

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 5>I think, this is this is what Chris was telling me.

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:21.720
<v Speaker 5>Is the room that he was Gina and Carrie.

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Gina obviously wardrobe and Carrie, uh my wonderful makeup sorry

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 2>by Carrie Wardrobe, Gina my makeup artists for many, many years.

0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:32.400
<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, we'd hang out in there and just

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:34.600
<v Speaker 2>sit and talk, and I would go to sleep. And

0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 2>that was one hundred percent. Slept in that closet so

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:40.439
<v Speaker 2>many nights, and that's when I thought.

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 5>What am I doing? That's this is it?

0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Man? And uh, you guys, obviously you've rented it from

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 2>a friend of mine. Yeah, you know, I know the

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:51.240
<v Speaker 2>owners of that house because.

0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:53.439
<v Speaker 3>There's two of them.

0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so they they they owned that house. So

0:46:57.120 --> 0:47:00.279
<v Speaker 2>their son went to high school with my son and

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 2>they played lacrosse together. So it was really funny. The

0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 2>year in lacrosse party was at the mansion. Wow, but

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 2>it was at Marshall, So Marshall as my friend Harridan

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 2>is who owns that house and so Marshall and you know,

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 2>I was there and I was.

0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 3>Like, this is really weird a house.

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so like their TV is there there there, I've

0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 2>never seen it unbachelorized. I've only seen it, so I was.

0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 2>It was. I'm like, oh, don't don't sit there, don't

0:47:27.400 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 2>do not want to go on that hot top, guys,

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't keep your hands up. But it was really

0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:34.399
<v Speaker 2>weird to go in and like have dinner at their

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 2>house and just hang out. It was so weird, like

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:39.320
<v Speaker 2>just very meta world's colliding.

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:40.479
<v Speaker 3>It was weird to be there.

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 5>I'd never seen it unbachelorized either. It's very weird too,

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 5>but it wasn't. It was kind of bachelorized.

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:49.319
<v Speaker 4>When we were there was no furniture, the place was empty. Sure, sure,

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 4>but it wasn't it wasn't a home.

0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:52.919
<v Speaker 2>It'd be weird to go back. Do they still shoot there?

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 2>They do, so they still shoot the show like the

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 2>first couple. Okay, So I don't know it'd be weird

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:00.799
<v Speaker 2>to go back. I mean, I know Marshall really well,

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 2>and I you know, it'd be weird to be back that.

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it would feel like.

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:06.400
<v Speaker 3>It felt weird for me. There's a lot of memories.

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 5>I Jess was there, so I was kind of showing

0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 5>her around and then yeah, I mean it's the start of,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the next chapter of her life for you know,

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<v Speaker 5>at least of people sitting in this room, every one

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<v Speaker 5>of us showed up to that.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be weird. If you and Jess had sex

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<v Speaker 2>with the mansion.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how do you know? He didn't?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know did I hope you did? But what

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<v Speaker 2>if you knocked her up and you, like, you like,

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<v Speaker 2>conceived your baby at the mansion.

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<v Speaker 4>In the closet that Chris Harris underneath the racket clothes.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Hey, we got to get to dinner. We

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<v Speaker 5>have a big week, a big week of content coming

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<v Speaker 5>out with some incredible people.

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<v Speaker 3>Again.

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<v Speaker 5>We're in Carmel, California. I gave you the list of

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<v Speaker 5>people that are here. It's gonna be really fun. We

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<v Speaker 5>got to get to dinner with everybody though, and say, hello,

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<v Speaker 5>it's gonna be fun dinner. It's gonna be weird, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's gonna be it's always weird, awkward fun, and then

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<v Speaker 5>everyone is. It's that first kind of like four or

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<v Speaker 5>five minutes, everyone's like, what do I do with my hands?

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<v Speaker 2>And then we kind of have a cocktail, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's gonna be great, and then then all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, it's four in the morning.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a lot of our friends it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a great time, like we you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when we did this h in Santa Barbara is the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest ever. Hey that one. Raise a glass. Boys. Always

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<v Speaker 2>good to see you.

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