1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: This is Suckers, Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast, the. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: Most traumatic podcast ever with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 3: Everybody. 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 4: Welcome to Suckers and a very special episode because it's 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 4: also an almost famous episode, but an even more special 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 4: episode because we have the one and only Chris Harrison 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 4: joining us. What suckers, it's well, let's think about Obviously 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 4: you got lollipops or suckers. 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: Some people call them suckers, but. 10 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 4: Suckers is our podcast with Kaylin and Jared Haban, who 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 4: I'm sure obviously you know. Well we named it that 12 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 4: because we're suckers for life, and we we well we 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 4: just cann't really think of a better name, so suckers. 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 5: I do have a question about suckers. Yeah, because today 15 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 5: I saw the promo picture. 16 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Are you happy that I'm blond? 17 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 5: Mad that you're blond in the promo picture that will 18 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 5: now live probably for the next ten years. 19 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's mixed emotions. I don't like the way I look, 20 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 4: but it's funny and I just smile every time. You're 21 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 4: still blond here because you have a hat on her, 22 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 4: I do. Yeah, you'll see me with a hat on 23 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 4: the entire time here. 24 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of growing out though. You almost have 25 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: like a little leopard print thing going. 26 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's not good. And what's it like. 27 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 2: When you're so handsome that you can just do anything 28 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: and not care like a normal person can't do that. 29 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, because you'll look like a buffoon 30 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: if it was. If you do it, you're like, I 31 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: don't care. I'm so effing handsome, it doesn't matter. 32 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: You're too sweet. Chris. 33 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 4: If you asked me that question ten years ago, i'd 34 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 4: have an honest answer for you. But I've since gone 35 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 4: well past that. I've getten a lot of weight. You 36 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 4: know you're married, you don't, Yeah, exactly, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 37 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 4: I actually got to say though, it's my first time 38 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 4: seeing Chris probably in three or four years. You literally 39 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 4: you look twenty years younger than the last time I 40 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 4: saw you. 41 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: It's because I'm married. You're married to a younger woman. 42 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: I had to really get a lot of work done. 43 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 3: Stress you look less. 44 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I lost. I lost about a thousand people in 45 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: my life. 46 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: It kind of Chris Chirs looks so young. 47 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 4: They were trying to flag me down in the airport, 48 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 4: and I just walked by them because I didn't even recognize. 49 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: So we we we flew in from Austin, they flew 50 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: in from their home, and so we had this layover 51 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: in Phoenix and so I'm walking through the airport and 52 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: I go, oh, there's Dean and I go, he's walking 53 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: at me with shades on, and Dean Dean Dean by me, like, 54 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: Laura Lauren goes, does does he hate you? Like maybe 55 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: he's mad at me? 56 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: And I. 57 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: Go, honestly, I don't know. Maybe maybe I. 58 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: Didn't recognize you. I was like, who's that a handsome 59 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: thirty year old over there trying to flag me down? 60 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: And then we went through the you know, the what 61 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: you do in an airport where people are yelling your 62 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: name and you just kind of like you ignored it first, 63 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: and you hope it's gonna, you know, go away and. 64 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 4: Well, and also seems blonde. I don't think I've ever 65 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 4: seen her blonde. So I don't think i've seen her 66 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 4: blonde wearing a hat. 67 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: Luckily, Kaylin was sweet to us, and so we talked 68 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: to him. 69 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 3: She's texting me, was in the bathroom. She's like, hey, 70 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 3: Chris and Laura are here. Be nice to them. 71 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, yeah, I know it's the first time I've 72 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: seen them since they got married, which is we both 73 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: kind of got married close to the same time. 74 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 3: I would think. So you guys got probably a few 75 00:02:58,960 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: months before us. 76 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, October and November because we had two weddings. Yeah. 77 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 2: And then when what month? 78 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 3: Oh we were September, so I guess we were right 79 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: before us. Oh. 80 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: Interesting, And so when when was the wedding day? 81 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: September twenty third? 82 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: It looked amazing? Yes, yes, exactly, check got it? And no, 83 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: it looked incredible. It looked like it and save to yours. 84 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: I mean it's you know, and same to years. Look 85 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: at us, we're all married. 86 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 3: I mean I'm deep into this thing now, Yeah, you're too. 87 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: Sunk it that, first of all, all three of us 88 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: would be married. Second of all, that you would be 89 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,559 Speaker 2: married the longest, although we had just been married. 90 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 5: Over two years and three months. Now, I mean, we're 91 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 5: in it. 92 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: How's that going? 93 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: It is incredible? Is it? It is like the best 94 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 3: thing ever I have. 95 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 5: I was actually talking to Jason Tartik, who's also hearing 96 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 5: this trip, and we're going to be sitting down with 97 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 5: him a letter date to kind of dig in. But 98 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 5: he and I flew one on the same flight, and 99 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 5: I was telling him just about life, and I said, hey, 100 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 5: here's what I know, because whatever you're going through right now, 101 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 5: I've been in that. 102 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: He's on the beaches of Normandy right now. Yeah, he's 103 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: taking incoming fire. It's like the world is coming at 104 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: him like he's drinking out of a fire hydrant. It's 105 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: a lot. 106 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 5: It's a lot, and it's going to be an interesting 107 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 5: conversation with him. But I told him because I remember 108 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 5: when I was in that season, I was like, you 109 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 5: know what, I don't know if marriage is actually going 110 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 5: to be that great. Like I really started to get 111 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 5: in my mind, like every relationship I've had is like 112 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,239 Speaker 5: hurt me deeply, terribly. 113 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 3: We need to dig into it. Yeah, but like being 114 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 3: married to Jessica is like it takes stress out of 115 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: my life. 116 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: You called her jess or Jessica both. 117 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, just depending on where we're at and what we're doing. 118 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: I did that, I guess with Laura. 119 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 5: But uh yeah, it's the best. Like she is a 120 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 5: great partner. I my life is a lot better. I'm 121 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 5: very happy. But she's really incredible, Like she's very sweet. 122 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 5: You know, her and Kaylin are good friends. Her and 123 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 5: Laura are good friends, Like they're just they want to 124 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 5: make our lives better, which is really wild to have 125 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 5: that in somebody. 126 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: Y'all spend a lot time apart, a. 127 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: Ton of time apart do Yeah, a lot of time? 128 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: Is that just work and just your lives are going 129 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: different directions? 130 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean she's she has I think probably the 131 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 5: most successful esthetician clinic in Denver. Like she is very busy, 132 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 5: and so she's down there Monday or Tuesday through Friday, 133 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 5: sometimes Saturday and Sundays. I travel probably once a week 134 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 5: to do something for generous or something for iHeart or something. 135 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 5: And it's actually great because she grew up in a 136 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 5: household her where her dad traveled two or three days 137 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 5: a week, and then when day he came home, everybody 138 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 5: was super excited to see him. And so when we 139 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 5: get together, like both very excited, but we never get 140 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 5: sick of each other. It's it's like when we're in 141 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 5: bed watching a movie together, it's like our vacation. 142 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: Because you're you're like that too, right, because you're you're 143 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: off going, yeah, kill him in Jarrow or I don't know, 144 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 2: living in a tree. 145 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, But Ben's got his successful nonprofit Jess as her 146 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: successful esthetician clinic. Kaylen and I are both unemployed, so 147 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 4: we spend a lot of time together. 148 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: But you do know, Yeah, one of the things, honestly, 149 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: one of the things I really appreciated about Kaylen and 150 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: I can't remember where I ran into her and we 151 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: had this conversation. God, what was it? But anyway, what 152 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: I loved is she was talking about you in such 153 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 2: a glowing way and how she really seems to correct 154 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. This might be a total lie, 155 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: but she really seems to appreciate who you are. And 156 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: I could seem someone marrying you for the excitement of it, 157 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: but then wanting to change you. 158 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well I'll tell you what you want to know. 159 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: What our last big fight was about changing you. Yeah. 160 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: She has been getting very mad at me because I 161 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 4: tend to pick my nose in public. 162 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: Like I'm talking mad, like mad, I'm going to take 163 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: I don't see the problem here, Like I think she's 164 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 3: a good partner. 165 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: I know I should back up my bro. 166 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 4: Here when you say she's not trying to change me, Oh, 167 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 4: she's trying to change me. 168 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: So that's a big deal. The nose picking. 169 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you, why is this a hill? 170 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 4: You're gonna die if you have a book in your 171 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 4: nose and you can't get it through the traditional means 172 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 4: of a tissue, kleenex or whatever. 173 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 3: You need to pick it. What if I'm out in public, 174 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: I'm not going to wait until I'm in private to 175 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: pick it. 176 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 5: Disagree, I don't want to look underneath your car seat. 177 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 5: Oh no, I had a buddy who's a nose picker 178 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 5: in the car and underneath. Yeah, so when she brings 179 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 5: us up to you, because this is like, this is 180 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 5: a very good thing for her to bring up for 181 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 5: you to you. 182 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: Were you embarrassed initially like defensive? 183 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 5: Like no, no, like or were you just like I 184 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 5: want to keep doing this because I enjoy it one 185 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 5: thousand percent the ladder of that. 186 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 4: I say, Hey, I'm picking my nose, Like I'm sorry, 187 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: it's just a fact of being with me. 188 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: Like you have to accept it. And it's funny. 189 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 4: Like I said, we actually had a legitimate argument about 190 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 4: me picking my nose in public. 191 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: That's amazing though, that you actually stood up for yourself, Like. 192 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: Damn it, damn it, woman, this is me. 193 00:07:51,680 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not exactly you know, you're chewing loudly, are like, 194 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: I don't love that you eat corn nuts in bed 195 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: or something. I don't know, but it's like I'm gonna 196 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: pick my nose. 197 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's funny. Actually, I think I can share 198 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 4: this without getting in too much trouble. She goes to 199 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 4: therapy often, which I think is great for everyone. And 200 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: she said she told me the story that she brought 201 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 4: it up with her therapist, the whole nose picking fight, 202 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 4: and her therapist goes, I think that you're you you 203 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 4: just are a little envious of his care free lifestyle. 204 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 4: Is me paraphrasing what the therapist. 205 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: Picking represents a lifestyle? Okay, I get this. Yeah, so 206 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 2: it's she's not mad about the nose picking. 207 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 4: She wants she well, and she is, and she'll be 208 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 4: at the first admit that she's a little like not 209 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 4: high strung, but she's a pageant girl, you know. So 210 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 4: they've got to have their all their crap together and 211 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: the opposite of that, I live in I've lived in 212 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 4: a van for a bunch of years. So, uh, that's 213 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: what the therapist said. 214 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 3: There. She was like, well, not that you're like envious of. 215 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 4: The care free lifestyle that he has. But like that's 216 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 4: just like the disconnect there. Can I follow up with 217 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 4: the question. 218 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, is this about nose picking? Can we move on? 219 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 5: No a little bit, A little bit here, And I 220 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 5: want to ask Chris's advice to here. 221 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: In marriage because I have a big nose. Yeah, okay, 222 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: I get it. 223 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: In marriage, like it is beautiful, it is great. 224 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 5: But one of the things that jess Can I take 225 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 5: very uh, we make very important in our life is 226 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 5: to stay attracted to each other, like either that be 227 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 5: working out, going on dates, dressing up for each other, 228 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 5: you know, like if one of us is using the restroom, 229 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 5: like play little music so that the person can't. 230 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: Hear you or whatever. 231 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 5: Like, there's things that we've tried to do just to 232 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 5: keep a little bit of the mystery alive. 233 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 3: And the intimacy going. 234 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 5: I would say, from Caitlin's perspective, if Jessica was picking 235 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 5: her nose in public all the time, I think for me, 236 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 5: it wouldn't be that I care that much of you're 237 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 5: doing it, other than the fact that it might gross 238 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 5: me out just enough where I'm like, I don't know 239 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 5: if I want to have sex with you anymore? Yeah, ever, ever, 240 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 5: is that I mean, like so is that we're a 241 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 5: little bit of where this is coming from. 242 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: You. 243 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 4: Well, of all the things I'm doing, picking my nose 244 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 4: is like the not the least unattractive or not the 245 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 4: most unattractive. I guess, like I said, I've age ten 246 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 4: years and three, so I'm seven years ahead of the 247 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,359 Speaker 4: curve on that. I've gained twenty pounds, lost all muscle tone. 248 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 4: So yeah, I guess I'm just kind of leaning heavy 249 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 4: into the I'm going to be unattractive from this point forward, 250 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 4: you know. But I do agree with what you're saying, and 251 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 4: one of my resolutions is to get in the gym 252 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: more and get back to like being comfortable with myself again. 253 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 4: Like when I was on the Bachelorette the first time. 254 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 4: When I first met Chris, I was like in the 255 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 4: best shape of my life. I was thin, I kind 256 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 4: of had some abs. Those labs are so long gone, 257 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 4: and I do think. 258 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: That I need to let me just jump in. 259 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 4: I've never had them. Yeah, but you at least have 260 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 4: something under there, you know. I don't. I don't think 261 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 4: I have much of anything. So I do agree I 262 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 4: didn't need to get back into the lab and start 263 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 4: making her more attracted to me in certain ways. Maybe yeah, keep. 264 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 3: Dating, keep dating. 265 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it is very important. To your point, Ben, 266 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: I always want to date Lauren, but I'm always I 267 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: actually truly always want to. Like I think it's important too, 268 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: but I actually really do want to. It's fun and 269 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: and she's the first person I've loved enough in my 270 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: life where I want to do that. 271 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: I am. 272 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: I agree, Keep keep the mystery alive, keep it, you know. Look, 273 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: I know some of the bloom is off the rose 274 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: your mayor. We've been living together, built a life together. 275 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 2: It's not all, you know, fantasy suites. But I think 276 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 2: it's important. I really do. I think that life is important. 277 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 3: How do you keep it? How do you keep that going? Though? 278 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 4: It is my question, Like we still go on date 279 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 4: nights and stuff, you know, And it's it's funny too, 280 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 4: because it's such a tale of two sides, Like Kaylen 281 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 4: gets hotter every single day and I get uglier every 282 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 4: single day, so she is stunning. 283 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: It does. 284 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: Scales are definitely uneven. 285 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: They've always. 286 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: I think it always takes effort, and it's funny even 287 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: the little things about dating, continuing to date, you can 288 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 2: fall into the trap of the mundane and repetitive of 289 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: we always kind of do the same thing on date 290 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: night now and now date night's not even special, so 291 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: it's always kind of just mixing it up, of doing 292 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: stuff that's different, leaving little notes, little just things that 293 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: are out of the ordinary different. The problem with I 294 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: have with Lauren she is really tough, like she if 295 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 2: she doesn't like something, she comes from a family of lawyers. 296 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: She will just tell you. Like if I bought her 297 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: this watch one time, this really was hard for me 298 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: to take. It was a very beautiful watch. It was 299 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: very expensive and it was early on and I gave 300 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: it to her and she's like, why would you get 301 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: me a watch? Have you ever seen me wear a watch? 302 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: And I said. 303 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: No, that's the point. I said, you've I've never seen 304 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: you with a watch. And I thought, how great, there's 305 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: this beautiful watch. She's like, you know, and I'm like, 306 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: I was crestfallen. Man, I was heartbroken. I've never had 307 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: anybody like reject you know, just fake it, right, But 308 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: she won't. She's like, why would I fake it? 309 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 4: I said, but what's worse that or her receiving it 310 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 4: and then just never wearing it for the next however long. 311 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: You know, I. 312 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: Agree, No, I'm happy now I understand. I'm like, I 313 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: would rather just go get something with you, Like when 314 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: we picked out her ring, I'm like, I'm just going 315 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: to go with you and let's build the ring you want. 316 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, and that's so I did for our engagement, 317 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: because I learned my lesson is I bought her just 318 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: a very simple solitaire and then I said, this is 319 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: just the centerpiece. You go build the ring around it. 320 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: And that's what we did. We are up here in 321 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: have we told people. 322 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: Where we are Carmel. We do this trip every year. 323 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 4: We've done it for the past few years at least. 324 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 5: So one of the benefits of having a podcast with 325 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 5: iHeart are these trips that we get to do together. 326 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 5: And over the years we've invited all these people who 327 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 5: are coming through Bachelor Nation and you know, maybe in 328 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,359 Speaker 5: the headlines or just like the most current lead. 329 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: People, we just really want to hang out. 330 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: But now it's. 331 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 5: Turned into people that not only are recent but like 332 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 5: that we just really want to hang out with and 333 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 5: we catch up on our lives, we get to spend 334 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 5: some time together. It really becomes a celebration. We have 335 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 5: to do some fun stuff. We're here this week because 336 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 5: the AT and T pro am is going on at Pebble, 337 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 5: uh and it's a really fun week. 338 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: That's very active city. 339 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 5: It's a cool city and so uh yeah, we'll put 340 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 5: up some good content for all of our shows. 341 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: We'll be catching up with a lot of people. 342 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 5: But really this is just people we want to hang 343 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 5: out with now, Like, let's find an excuse to hang 344 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 5: out again. 345 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: Like, it's been fun texting with you guys as we've 346 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: been leading up to this, and like Guiney texted me 347 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: last night, He's like, Okay, I'm gonna admit I'm excited. 348 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 349 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: So Guinea's here, Firestone's here, the three of us, Wells 350 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: Adams of course his brother Brett. I just don't know. 351 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: He's like a penny just rub me. Yeah, I just 352 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: keeps showing up. 353 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's everywhere. 354 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 4: I'm excited you're here with the group because I feel 355 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 4: like you're always up here this same of year, but 356 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 4: we haven't had the chance to all spend time together. 357 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been I guess I well, I used to 358 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: play in the AT and T. It's changed so this year. 359 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: It's weird because it's this not to get into golf, 360 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: but it's an elevated event, so it's like half the 361 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: field and half the celebs and all that. So but 362 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: the cool thing is there's some absolute studs up here, 363 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 2: so it to be fun. It'll be it'll be a 364 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: great time. And I know I've never been able just 365 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: to hang. 366 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: With you guys. 367 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're here at the La Petite yeah PLI. 368 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to find on a map, but it's 369 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 3: a great hotel, a. 370 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: Very cute hotel. 371 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's hotel. There's two of them. 372 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 373 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mistakenly brought us to the Ocean one and 374 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 4: we're at the the eighth Avenue one. 375 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: But I love this town. This is one of my 376 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,479 Speaker 2: favorite places in the world, just this part of Carmel, Monterey, 377 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: the peninsula out here. 378 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 4: Is it tough with you traveling to places like this 379 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 4: because when I for firm experience when I go, like 380 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 4: when Kaylen and I came here for the first time. Yeah, 381 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 4: we're walking around and she's like, I want to live 382 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 4: here more than anything in the entire world because it's 383 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 4: so beautiful and so great. And I was like, Kayln, 384 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 4: look at that house. It looks like crap. It's seven 385 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 4: million dollars, you know, seventeen Yeah, but even like the 386 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 4: bad ones are seven million. 387 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: No, it's insane here. I've looked at prices here. 388 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 5: She's never been here. She's coming for the first time. Yeah, 389 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 5: this will be your first trip. And she's a huge reader. 390 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: Uh, and she loves like little bookstores and cafes and 391 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: good dinners. And so I was like, if you do 392 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: any trip with me this year, this is a trip. 393 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: I really When she come on, I think you're gonna love. 394 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: Well, this is how great this place is. Lauren comes 395 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: with me when I play. She loves it. I mean 396 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: we usually stay at the lodge over there at Spanish 397 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: or wherever. And it's like you walk on pebble Beach. 398 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: It's just this town is great to get lost in. Yeah, 399 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: little little tasting rooms, just stopping at some oysters and 400 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: some chowder, and it's cool. It's everything's kind of cozy here. 401 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: Even the airport's got the good chowder the airport. 402 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, l Z, it's really weird. She told 403 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: the story. She's a big chowder person and she will 404 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 2: eat she will eat the weirdest stuff no matter where 405 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: it is. And her some of her favorite chowder is 406 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: at the Monterey Airport. No way, But what's your take 407 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: on she took it on the plane. 408 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not a big deal. That's a bad deal, clams. 409 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: I closed. 410 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 5: Ashley just brought a tuna sandwich on the plane last week, 411 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 5: and I gave a really hard time. 412 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: It's a bad movie. 413 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 5: She's not here, right, She's not here because she nat 414 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 5: I'm pregnant now, kid, So I do have a rundown 415 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 5: of who's here this week, and so I want to 416 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 5: make sure to give everybody. 417 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: Uh so, let's. 418 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: Film me it because I I don't mean to be 419 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: a well yeah, I kind of do, but I don't. 420 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: I probably won't know some of these people. You have 421 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: to fill me in. 422 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 5: Sure, Yeah, so I ask anybody you don't know, and 423 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 5: and Dean and I will give you the run down. 424 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 3: That'll be fun. 425 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 5: So uh, outside of us, So, Kaylin's here, Wells is here, 426 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 5: Sarah's coming up, Wells's wife love her most. 427 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 3: I was just with him last week. Sarah got this 428 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 3: incredible tour of Disney that was wild. 429 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: That was weird. We need to talk about that. 430 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, Bob Guiney and his wife Canyon obviously Horne Zema 431 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 5: is here. 432 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: She's pretty hot. 433 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 5: So now we're getting into the people that you might 434 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 5: have questions about. Okay, Kathy schwartz you know Kathy schwartz 435 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 5: Is I don't know Kathy Schwartzel. It was a recent 436 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 5: uh maybe at one point in her life. She's in 437 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 5: her seventies. Oh, she was on the Golden Bachelor. Susan Knowles, 438 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 5: who was on the Golden Bachelor, also a model. Yeah, 439 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 5: I mean probably a model. She was the one that 440 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 5: officiated the wedding. She's a brain surgeon, is she really? 441 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 5: I think she's an efficient Okay, that's the same thing. 442 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 5: Justin Glaize and Susie Evans. So Justin Glaze on a 443 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 5: recent season he had to be a stunt man, and Susie. 444 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 3: Evans was the one that Clayton picked. 445 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 5: Now, they recently just announced their dating and they came 446 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 5: all the way here to give us some exclusive content 447 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 5: and interviews about their dating life. 448 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: This is exciting. 449 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, Andrew Firestone and Havana Firestone, Brett Adams, as he said, 450 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 5: and then Jason Tartick is here as well. 451 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 3: So that's the list of the people that have came 452 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: to Carmel. 453 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: That's a good mix. It's a good honestly though. Here's 454 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: the thing. One of the things I love about iHeart 455 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 2: and being a part of this is, you know, I 456 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 2: will meet these people at some point and it's like 457 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 2: it's it's great because obviously I haven't been a part 458 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: of the franchise for I don't know, got three or 459 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: four years now, so I don't know so many people 460 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: that have been a part of the show, and and 461 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: when I you know, and obviously I don't watch, and 462 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: so I don't know the storylines and all that. But 463 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 2: when I meet these people, nine times out of ten, 464 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: they are unbelievably lovely and it's fun to kind of 465 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: add them to the family. There was one one guy, 466 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: forget who was one of he was I think he 467 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 2: might have been the Bachelor or something. He lives in Austin, 468 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: Zach maybe Zach. 469 00:18:58,720 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's a good guy. 470 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 4: I want to hear about the one out of ten 471 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 4: times stories oh for another time, for no time. 472 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: No, there's I mean, look, even you know, people always 473 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: ask me, and I'm sure they asked you guys, do 474 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 2: you like everybody? Or who's you know? And most of 475 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 2: the time I liked the Bacheler I liked the Bachelorette, 476 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 2: but there's always those outliers that you just don't get 477 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: along with. It's impossible. We've met thousands of people at 478 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: this point after twenty years. You know they're not all great. 479 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 5: There's more people that I like than I don't like. 480 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 5: But there's definitely people that I have would prefer never 481 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 5: to see again. 482 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 2: Like who give us one name, Give us one name. 483 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: I can't do that. I'm not that guy. 484 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: But I felt like we just made eye contact. We're 485 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: thinking of the same person. 486 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 3: I think I'm. 487 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 5: Three one two three webs answer that. But now I. 488 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: Think Wells has worn out as welcome. 489 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: I's be honest, he's been around. But Dick, it's going 490 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: to be a good group. 491 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 5: You can look forward to good cond I'm actually excited 492 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 5: because I've been with them and they love the show 493 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 5: when you were on the show, when you were there, 494 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 5: and they're very funny, and they're they have so much 495 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 5: energy and they love getting together so much. They're very 496 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 5: sweet women who are just gonna have a blast year 497 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,239 Speaker 5: and double down the amount of wine that you and 498 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 5: I could drink together. They will consume on their own. 499 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: You want to talk about Disney Okay, when does it 500 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: become weird that six adults with no kids are at 501 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: Disney with the shirts and the ears and all that. 502 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not judging. 503 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 3: I'm just saying you're asking questions. Yeah, can I ask 504 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: a question to return? 505 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 2: No, just gut instinct. Six adults at Disney with no kids. 506 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: I think it really depends on the amount of times 507 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 4: that you go. If you're going once a week, yeah, 508 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 4: that's weird and bad, not bad. I don't want to 509 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 4: say bad. Disney adults are cool. I will say one 510 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 4: set of every ten years, maybe it's okay. 511 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're telling me, l Z. If you were like, 512 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: we're gonna. 513 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 2: Go to Disney, those zero chances she's going to Disney. 514 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: We don't like We don't like crowds, we don't like amusement. 515 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 5: No, but if you had a plaid, which literally I 516 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 5: know refers you to the back, yes. 517 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: To all the rides you're in and out of those things. No. 518 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 2: I look, I've talked to LZ about this. 519 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 3: She's a Disney girl. 520 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: Oh god. No. We like Disney movies and stuff like that. 521 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: I mean, were not anti Disney, but we would never 522 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: go to Disney World or disneyl like that would be 523 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 2: our nightmare. 524 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 3: I will tell you this, it was. 525 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 5: That would be a last So what we did was 526 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 5: we did have the whole tour thing. Yeah, we got 527 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 5: to ride all the rides and then we'd drink around 528 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 5: the world at Epcot one day. It was a really 529 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 5: fun trick I went. 530 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 2: So, I mean, my kids grew up around Disney because 531 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: obviously when I started the show, the kids were born 532 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: Abc Disney, same family, so I got the benefit of 533 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: seeing it through my kid's eyes. And in all seriousness, 534 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: I loved it, and we got to do some crazy 535 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 2: things Disney cruises and all that. I just know it's 536 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: one of those things I'll never go back. Interesting because 537 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: I just make my kids are in their twenties now, 538 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: and unless maybe my grandkids go or something. But yeah, 539 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: I wouldn't go as an adult. 540 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 3: I don't think. 541 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 5: I think after going, I would only say the reason 542 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 5: we want to go back, it's kids would be unless 543 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 5: we had a guide. Again, yes, because all we we 544 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 5: actually played a game where we had a drinking game 545 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 5: about how many kids we saw one on leashes and 546 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 5: then two crying, and it looked it looked like a 547 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 5: terrible day for a parent, like, unless your kids are 548 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 5: a certain age, it looks like a Really. 549 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: It's a nightmare. It's an expensive nightmare. And you're doing 550 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: this and you get back to the hotel, you're like, 551 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 2: why did I just spend twenty grand? 552 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 4: I gotta say, after hearing both of the guys talk 553 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 4: about it, I'm more on your side now. I don't 554 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 4: think I'll ever go to Disney unless it's like a 555 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 4: work function for whatever that means. If a friend's out 556 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 4: of town visiting and they're like dying to go, then 557 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 4: maybe I would go. But I would never you know, 558 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 4: ask Kayln if she wants to go to spend the 559 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 4: week at Disneyland. 560 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 3: Is it is still a magical place? Will like? 561 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 5: There was moments like on Guardians of the Galaxy where 562 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 5: I felt like a kid again. There were rides that 563 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 5: I got very scared for or very nervous for. Uh, 564 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 5: it's a different perspective, but I would still I would 565 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 5: encourage anybody to go as an adult. I think Jessic 566 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 5: and I, even if it was just the two of us, 567 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 5: would have had a great time because without the plaid, 568 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 5: well it's hard to say the plaid is really nice. 569 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: There's no lines, you get ride right as wild. I mean, 570 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: you feel a little guilty. Laura and I've had this 571 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: discussion too, where you know, it was my my ex 572 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: wife and the kids and we'd be there and it 573 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: was kind of you had to tell the kids because 574 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: you kind of go in through the exits and you know, 575 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: you're standing across and everyone's been standing in line for hours. 576 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: They're giving you the death stare, and I'm like, don't 577 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: don't look at them, just don't look at them in 578 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: the eye. You're just we're just let's get on. Let's 579 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 2: just act like things out of normal here, because you 580 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: really feel very small and horrible, not so much that 581 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: you won't do it. 582 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 3: No, I did it. I did it. You guys want 583 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: to hear the story that I haven't shared yet. 584 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 5: But I'm I'm pretty fearful of roller coasters and it 585 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 5: took me a bit to kind of get into them. 586 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 5: But we went on the Tower of Terror, which is 587 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 5: maybe my most not. 588 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: A roller coaster, you're just bouncing up and down in 589 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: your chair, yeah. 590 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 3: But definitely the ride I was most nervous for that. 591 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 5: I was hoping nobody wanted to go on, but they did, 592 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 5: so I'm in the back and I'm like this, this 593 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 5: isn't my thing, Like I don't enjoy this, the heights 594 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 5: and everything. And so I'm sitting in the back of 595 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 5: the ride and the door is closing, and what Chris's 596 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 5: point is, you do come through the exit. So everybody's 597 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 5: kind of maddie you or there staring at you, and 598 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 5: they're like, this is stupid. 599 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 3: And there's this little girl. She can't be any more 600 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: than ten years old. She looks at me as the 601 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 3: doors closed. This is not a joke. You can ask anybody, 602 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 3: and she goes. 603 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 5: Hey you, hey you, and I look up. She goes, 604 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 5: you're gonna die tonight. You can ask. 605 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 3: Wells Brad say. 606 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 5: They all heard it, and I'm in the back and 607 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 5: they already knew I was nervous, and they all look 608 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 5: at me and I'm like. 609 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: That's like some like shining stuff. That's crazy. 610 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 5: Internextor I think she was just very angry that we 611 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 5: cut the line, and I think she was trying to 612 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 5: get back in me. 613 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: But I thought, it's not even the ride, like I'm 614 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 2: going I'm going to haunt you, I'm gonna kill you. 615 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 3: Look, you guys had the whole ride to yourselves that 616 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 3: we did. Okay, yeah, by the way. 617 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: That's just what a bunch of elitists. No, look, it 618 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 2: looked like y'all had fun. I just I don't know, man. 619 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 2: I just like if you called me and said, hey, like, well, 620 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: Sarah Jessn are going, I'm like, yeah, No, Like, we'll 621 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: meet you guys for dinner. 622 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 4: What would it take to get you a minus the grandkids? 623 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 4: What would it take do you think to get to 624 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 4: you to Disneyland? 625 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: A massive amount of money. It would be a huge 626 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 2: endorsement deal, which I don't think is gonna happen now 627 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: after this endorsement. I just I did it. But you know, 628 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: it was a phase of my life with my kids, 629 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 2: and it was I will say, I get it like 630 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: I saw it through their eyes. And when you do 631 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: see it through your children's eyes, you know, you go 632 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: through the phases too. Of the first time you go, 633 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: you're not even really going on rides as much as oh, 634 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: let's go see the princesses, let's go see Mickey Mouse. 635 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: You do all that, and then you go, you know, 636 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: the small rides, teacup, and then you graduate to the 637 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: roller coasters, and I will say, Disneyland and Disney World 638 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: are very different. When you're with a plaid, as you 639 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: call it, you kind of are just in a van 640 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: all day. You drive a lot. When you're Disneyland, you're 641 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,479 Speaker 2: just you go out of the park and you're there 642 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 2: all day. But so you're like, oh, we want to 643 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: go on this ride. You drive to the back of 644 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: that ride and you go and it's it is, it's heaven, 645 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: it's I see. 646 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 4: The marketing material now after they hire you, the a 647 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 4: bunch of quick shots. You haven't fun at the very end. 648 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 4: Disney even Chris Harrison likes it now. 649 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: So maybe I can be convinced. 650 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 5: Sarah, Sarah and my wife are like huge Disney kids, 651 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 5: Like they're just grown adults that love Disney the song. 652 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah they are. 653 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 5: They find magic and seeing everything there and I really 654 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 5: had a good time. 655 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 2: I want to bring up a subject because I've never 656 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: talked about this ever, and I want to know if 657 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: you remember this me. Yes, okay, Dean, So we're in Paradise. 658 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: Did you do you do Paradise? Just once? 659 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 3: I did it second time? 660 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so I don't know if it was first 661 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 2: or second, but so so what happens is when we 662 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: get to rose ceremony. It's four or five in the 663 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 2: morning whatever, and we separate the men and the women, 664 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: right because we're about to go into the rose ceremony. 665 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: And if you remember in Paradise, I don't know if 666 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: it's still like this, but they would choose each other, 667 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 2: so you had to separate, finish up interviews and all that. 668 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: So the women would be taken like up to the 669 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: dinner area they little gathering where the bar is, and 670 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 2: the guys we'd usually kind of take down to the 671 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 2: beach where Wells is at the bar, and and so 672 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 2: we're down at the beach. I'd come hang with you guys. 673 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: So we had like an hour. You got to turn 674 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 2: the room around and get the you know, cameras set 675 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 2: and the director's taking a look at the lights and 676 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: all that. So there's like an hour and a half 677 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 2: where we're just killing time. And so we're all really tired. 678 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: And so you and I are down there, we're staying 679 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: together at the beach, and you say to me, it's 680 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: like and again it's so late and we're tired, and 681 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: you go, so you have enough money to retire, right 682 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: do you? 683 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? Why do you do this? 684 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, Dean, I said, you know, I 685 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: honestly probably could you know, step away and live a 686 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: pretty good life. And you go, so why do you 687 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: do this? Why why are you still working? And that 688 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: is stuck with me. 689 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 3: Man, it's hot. 690 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like that little girl says she's going 691 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 2: to murder you. I was like, huh. And you know 692 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: my initial reaction was and my answer was, I honestly 693 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: like what I do? I enjoy TV. I like making TV. 694 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 2: But at the time, I thought, you know, maybe I 695 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: don't like I'm I'm on this beach at four in 696 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: the morning with a bunch of people, some of my. 697 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: Life drunk years old, I drunk twenty three year olds. 698 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm away from my kids, I'm away 699 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: from my family, and I don't think I was married 700 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: at the time, but I'm like, if I was dating anybody, 701 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: I'm away from whoever I'm dating, and you know, I'm 702 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: not going to date anybody. And at the Vedanta so 703 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, it's like a weird, lonely month. 704 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: And that's how I spent my life, was separate, lonely 705 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: months of just traveling around the world. And I'm like, 706 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: it really stuck with me, and so I asked Dean. 707 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: I said, well, if you could walk away, would you? 708 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: And I don't if you remember what you said. You said, yeah, man, 709 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: if I could like make enough money to live for 710 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: a month or so, I'm going to drop out and 711 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: go live for a month. Yeah, and then I'll come 712 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: back and make enough to live for another month. And 713 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: I thought, what kind of like how Calin resents you 714 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: for how free? I thought, this guy really hasn't figured 715 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: out maybe like and maybe I'm like on this, I'm 716 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: like a Gerbil on this like treadmill. 717 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 3: You want to so about that? 718 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 4: So the first time I did the show, the first 719 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 4: few times I did the show, I would just resort 720 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 4: to drinking the whole time, because you know, you have 721 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 4: a lot of downtime and you're around a of people 722 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 4: that you kind of know but don't know super well, 723 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 4: so you just drink just to like ease the tension 724 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 4: or whatever. That season, I wasn't I didn't drink announce alcohol, 725 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 4: and so I was around all these drunk people the 726 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 4: whole time, and so I didn't want to listen to 727 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 4: anyone talk. So I was just like literally sitting there 728 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 4: thinking all the time. 729 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 3: And then it just hit me. I was like, what 730 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 3: is he? What is he doing this? What is he 731 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: doing here? 732 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: Why is he staying in a suit and tie on. 733 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 4: A beach in the middle of a monsoon, Like we're 734 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 4: on a mont soon? Hold right now? Oh my gosh, 735 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 4: that's funny. 736 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 3: But you did it. I mean, you gave the best 737 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: answer possible. 738 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 4: And I do see your point, Like, if you really 739 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 4: love doing it, that's great, but you I mean, I 740 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 4: think where I was coming from with it was you've 741 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 4: done it for so long, You've already kind of like 742 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 4: established and proven your worth and all that stuff, and 743 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 4: like if I was I think what I was actually 744 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 4: thinking was if I was in your position, I would 745 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 4: just golf every single day. And I know you love 746 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 4: golf too, So that's kind of what I was coming from. 747 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: But you know what's funny is so when I left 748 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 2: the show and I decided to part ways with them, 749 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: I thought about that question, and I cause I had 750 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 2: such relief. And Ben and I have talked a little 751 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 2: bit about this, about that weight off my shoulders, and 752 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: I really you know, and I've I've mentioned before how 753 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: things were very toxic and you guys know what was 754 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: going on and all the things behind the scenes, and 755 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 2: so yeah, I was. When I left, I'm like, you know, 756 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: those words kind of stuck with me. I'm like, why 757 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: was I there? Like I wasn't happy. I was kind 758 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: of I kind of lied to myself and lied to 759 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: other people of how happy I was. And I realized 760 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 2: later he's right, like I love doing what I do 761 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: for a living. I enjoy this passion of TV, but 762 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: that wasn't it anymore. And and it's it was really 763 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 2: weird how that, like that really hit me. And I 764 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: was even thinking about it in the shower this morning 765 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: because I knew you and I were going to be 766 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: talking and I remembered that, and I'm like, he was right, 767 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: like I wasn't happy, And I was thinking, did he 768 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: know I wasn't happy at the time? 769 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: You know? 770 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: Was he looking into my soul? And so I was. 771 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: It was really interesting how I never told you how 772 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: much that stuck with me. And I don't know if 773 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: you said it flippantly or if you actually meant to 774 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: have that deep of a conversation. 775 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 4: Well, it's kind of hard to pull away from everything 776 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 4: I was going on to try to, but I was 777 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 4: genuinely just curious about it. I remember the first time 778 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 4: we met too. I walked up to you. We were 779 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 4: at the Bachelor mansion and I was like, hey, Chris. 780 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 4: Remember I don't know if you remember this, but Tomorrio 781 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 4: and Rachel or even their whole big thing. He came 782 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 4: back to the mansion. Everyone's outside, and I walked up 783 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 4: to you and I was like, hey, Chris, how's it going. 784 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 4: You look at me dead in the eyes, and you go, Dane, 785 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 4: I'm doing really really well, man, how are you? 786 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 3: And I was like, the does he know my name? 787 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 3: How does he have any idea who I am right now? 788 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 4: And that's really suck with me a lot too, actually 789 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 4: funny enough, but I remember I got back into the 790 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 4: mansion later that night and one of my buddies, who 791 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 4: I was like kind of buddies, but at that point, 792 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 4: was like he thought I was a producer plant because 793 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 4: he's like, I'm pretty sure Chris doesn't know anyone's name 794 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 4: here except for yours. 795 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 3: And I was like, that's news to me. That's it. 796 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: I remember, you know, especially back in the day, I 797 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: would I used to get a book on everybody. They'd 798 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 2: give me a book and I would memorize everybody's name, 799 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: where they're from. I mean I used to have a picture, 800 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: but then I kind of went by the wayside, and 801 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 2: then I would just get to know people through through 802 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: the show, and inevitably, the producers would obviously tell me, Hey, 803 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: there's this guy Dean we really like. They would tell 804 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: me who the front runners, you know, of who we 805 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: thought it was. It didn't always turn out that way, 806 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: but they're like, oh, this Ben guy is gonna be 807 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: really good. But yeah, I was. And some people just 808 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: get to kind of hit it off with more than most, 809 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: and that night one I would, you know, usually kind 810 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 2: of walk through the house, get the vibe and kind 811 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: of see some people, and then the producers would tell 812 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 2: me to get the hell out. They're like, I'm bugging 813 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: you know, I'm bugging everybody and ruining the mood or whatever. 814 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: But I was curious with Ben, if you could walk 815 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: away right now, I don't know what your number. 816 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 4: Is, if you could last for a month and then 817 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 4: like go back in a month and start working. 818 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 2: Well, let's say let's say let's say I don't know, 819 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: let's say general numbers like twelve twelve million. Let's say 820 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: you hit that twelve million Mark, that's my number. Would 821 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: you walk. 822 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 3: Away from what, like everything everything just kind of chill. 823 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: And maybe just keep your passion project, whatever you truly 824 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: love or do you love what you do? 825 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 5: Generous woulde hundred percent stay? The coffee would one hundred 826 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 5: percent stay. I dream like one day of doing that 827 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 5: when I'm like and like people ripping it from my hands. Yeah, 828 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 5: everything else, Like if if I heart said hey, here's 829 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 5: twelve million. 830 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 3: Bucks ADVI say I'm good, see you guys a podcast anymore, 831 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 3: I'm out, Like that would just be nice. So if 832 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 3: anybody wants to do, that'd be great. 833 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 5: But there's a few things in my life that would stay, 834 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 5: but not I. You know, I think for me, what's 835 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 5: happened oddly, and as I'm listening to him thinking about this, 836 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 5: you had like a very successful career, You had built 837 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 5: something you were, you were known you were, you know, 838 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 5: you're crushing it, you're in it, and you easily could 839 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 5: have said, hey, I'm done, and everybody been like, well done, 840 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 5: Like you put your heart and soul into this thing 841 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 5: right there? Really isn't that for me right now? Like 842 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 5: there isn't that. Generous is the closest thing to it. 843 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 5: The podcast has been going on for eight years. It's 844 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 5: getting close to what I feel like, Hey, if anything 845 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 5: were to happen to it, or if like it ends, 846 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 5: then maybe somebody would say that was a good run, 847 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 5: Like you did well, that you worked hard on, that 848 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 5: you busted it for it. It's getting closer and closer. 849 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 5: It feels like something that could stick with me. But 850 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 5: I don't have that thing right now. Necessarily they're all 851 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 5: pretty new and and so I don't know what to 852 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 5: be walking away from. 853 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll admit I got competitive. I'm a hugely competitive person, 854 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: whether we're golfing, playing checkers, whatever. I'm just I've always 855 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 2: been competitive. I hate losing, and so I definitely got 856 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 2: caught up in that. Of Partly I enjoyed the show, 857 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 2: but also I enjoyed like hosting Miss America and getting 858 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 2: you know, the next thing and the next thing. I've 859 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 2: always like been a chaser of things. That's always been 860 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 2: my mo to this day, I'm always chasing things. That's 861 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: where I don't know if it's where I get my happiness, 862 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 2: but I'm definitely happiest when I'm doing that. I have 863 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 2: a hard time just shutting it down. 864 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 5: I had to rip it away two years ago when 865 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 5: I went through I mean I moved back home. Even 866 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 5: when Jessica and I were dating, I moved back home 867 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 5: because it was like that time that we've well Dean 868 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 5: and I have experienced probably where you like the Bachelor 869 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,720 Speaker 5: and then stuff isn't getting You're not getting calls anymore, 870 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 5: You're not getting the opportunities used to and like it 871 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 5: was an identity crisis where stuff was It felt like 872 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 5: I was trying to be competitive but nothing was working, 873 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 5: like nobody was responding to anything. 874 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 3: And that was hard. 875 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 5: And so that took about six months for me to 876 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 5: kind of reposition and find something new. So what are 877 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 5: you now? Like, what is what is that competitive? 878 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 2: Like? 879 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 3: Where's your outlet? 880 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 2: Well, there was a part of me, a really sick 881 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 2: part of me that when everything happened, I kind of 882 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 2: got excited again. It took a minute, but to start over, 883 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 2: like to start from ground zero, I can start. I 884 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 2: can do anything now. And look, yes, there was the 885 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 2: cushion of I had twenty years worth of very great 886 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 2: success and money and all that. But I was able 887 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 2: to kind of reinvent myself and figure out what I 888 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 2: really want to do, and that that to me is exciting. 889 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 2: I love a blank slate. I love that exciting. Like 890 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 2: there was I remember there's a long time ago that 891 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 2: there was a show deal or no deal that Howie 892 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 2: Mandel was doing. They were moving it into syndication, and 893 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 2: there's other this this other game show and they had 894 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 2: asked me to come in an audition and I and 895 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 2: I hadn't auditioned in a while. I just typically what 896 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 2: happens was I mean, I hate to say this, but 897 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: when you get to that level of the bats or 898 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 2: and when you're doing all that stuff, usually you just 899 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 2: get a call like, hey, we want you to host 900 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 2: Miss America. Hey will you host who wants to be 901 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 2: a Millionaire? That stuff is appro They approach you, you're not 902 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 2: approaching them. And so there was this show and they 903 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 2: had me auditioned for it and I had to, you know, 904 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 2: read the sides and go through the process. And I 905 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 2: was I was nervous, and I was excited, and I 906 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 2: hadn't had that much fun in a long time. And 907 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 2: just that fear of failure and the ability to fail, 908 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 2: I think, is a very exciting thing to me. It's enticing. 909 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 2: It's why I like, It's why I like playing in 910 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 2: these celebrity things. Is walking on that tightrope and not 911 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: having a net below you and really being able to 912 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: fall on your face is exciting to me. I don't know. 913 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 2: The being so nervous you can barely stand it and 914 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 2: having to go out and perform is fun. To prove 915 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: to yourself you can do it, and to harness that 916 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 2: and to walk out in front of an audience or 917 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 2: do whatever, and you know you're good at what you 918 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 2: do and to actually do it, to me is phenomenal. 919 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 2: I love that. I still get off on. 920 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 3: That by this therapist a long time ago. 921 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 4: This is kind of tangential here, but this therapist a 922 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 4: long time ago who said to me obviously that I 923 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 4: like to dig myself into a hole just to see 924 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 4: if I can get myself out of it. Yeah, not 925 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 4: saying that's what you're doing, but there is something to 926 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 4: be said about, Like for you, you're saying the grind 927 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,439 Speaker 4: never stops, like you're always excited to achieve new things 928 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 4: and that type of stuff. For me personally, I know 929 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 4: no one asked, but I'll answer the question anyways. I 930 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 4: feel like I'm looking for a generous or I'm looking 931 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 4: for something that I can like wake up for wake 932 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 4: up and be excited to accomplish that day. 933 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 3: And it hasn't hit me yet. 934 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 4: But I have gotten to this point now where you know, 935 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 4: you come off the show and I'm sure you experienced 936 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 4: this too, where brands are just gonna give you money 937 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 4: for posting a picture. You don't have to work especially 938 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 4: hard for it. You just have to do what they 939 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 4: ask and then they'll pay you. And it's like it's 940 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 4: in me, at least over the past couple of years. 941 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 4: It's embedded this like laziness in me where I'm just like, oh, 942 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 4: I don't need to do anything. This brand is just 943 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 4: gonna give me money for posting a picture, So what 944 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 4: does it matter? And it's gotten frustrating. It's not feeding you, 945 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,959 Speaker 4: oh not at all. I'm really disappointed in myself because 946 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 4: I don't have like the fire that I once had 947 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 4: a long time ago, when I was living paycheck to 948 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 4: paycheck and you know, if I didn't get paid. 949 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 3: One week, I wouldn't be able to pay rent. 950 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 2: So like if you had a dream, like you're like, okay, Dean, 951 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 2: here's ten million dollars, go start this. What yeah, what 952 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 2: do you know? That's what would that be. 953 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 3: I asked myself that every single day. 954 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 4: When I went on the Bachelorette, i quit my job 955 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 4: and I was like, in one year, I'll have my 956 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 4: dream figured out. 957 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 3: And it's been six years now, seven years now. It's crazy. 958 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 4: And that's why I'm so envious of you guys who 959 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 4: have been able to find your niche or your whatever 960 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 4: it is and really just lean into it and be 961 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 4: successful at it, you know. 962 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 5: Well, and part of that is just I had a 963 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 5: friend say, hey, like, this is You're never gonna do 964 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 5: this thing. Well, like, this is never if you try 965 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 5: to stay relevant and if you run this race, you've 966 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 5: never been made for this. You've got to You've got 967 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 5: to find something that could be bigger than yourself. 968 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 2: Well, he's right, I mean eventually it it is a 969 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 2: roller coaster ride it you know, what goes up must 970 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 2: come down. It's like it's so yeah, I agree, it's 971 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 2: like trying to chase that relevancy is impossible, you know. 972 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 2: But I will take umbrage of you're going to stay 973 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 2: relevant like you are the rest of your life. You're 974 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 2: going to be relevant to a certain degree. It won't 975 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 2: be the super hot you know that that you were, 976 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 2: but you're always gonna be relevant. Both of you are, like, 977 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 2: so you're always gonna have a modicum of fame and 978 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 2: a modicum of acknowledgment in that way. It's just how 979 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 2: you use it and that will change. And that's that's 980 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 2: something I learned a long time ago. I came to 981 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 2: it from a very different place than you guys did, 982 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 2: because you guys were shot out of a cannon. You know, 983 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 2: y'all went from zero to one thousand miles. 984 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 5: Being done like that was maybe the hardest part. We 985 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 5: didn't we don't have any tangible skill sets. 986 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 2: Well, well it was, I would well, I mean, that's that's 987 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 2: cutting yourself short, both of you. The problem is what 988 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 2: I found interesting in watching you guys, and I say 989 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 2: you guys in the plural of everybody on the show. 990 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 2: I had a steady assent, so I had a wonderful foundation. 991 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 2: And that was honestly easier for me because I have 992 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 2: a foundation of television. I've been doing it for over 993 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 2: thirty years, from broadcasting and majoring in it. When you 994 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 2: guys were shot out of a cannon, it was almost 995 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 2: unfair because like, well, y'all don't have the foundation, so 996 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 2: you had to quickly start building something that you weren't 997 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 2: even aware of. You didn't even know what you were building. 998 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 2: And so I admired that in both of you that 999 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 2: you found a niche and you've both held onto it 1000 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 2: very well and built businesses around something that. 1001 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: You know. 1002 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 2: I know, people listening to this go, oh, well, it's 1003 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 2: so easy. I was like, he was on a show 1004 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 2: and he did this, and he did this. It's like, no, man, 1005 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 2: think about how many people have flamed out, how many 1006 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 2: people have gone by the wayside, and you guys have not. 1007 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 2: I admire that. I really respect both of you for that. 1008 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 2: And and you know, Kaylin the same way. And some 1009 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 2: of these others who have come through the show and 1010 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 2: Becca and who have really made a life out of 1011 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 2: something that didn't start that way. And that's not easy. 1012 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 3: I gotta say, Becky might be doing the best out 1013 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 3: of any of us girls killing it. Yeah, you know. 1014 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 2: And it's honestly, it's easier for women. It is much 1015 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 2: easier for women to do brand endorsements. They get thrown 1016 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 2: a lot more. 1017 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 5: I don't sell anything, like I don't know what people 1018 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 5: want me to sell, but like my wife sell a 1019 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 5: bajillion products, and I do the same thing, and it's 1020 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 5: like two people. 1021 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 2: Lauren does a lot more than me. Yeah, you know, 1022 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 2: and I have ten times the followers. Yeah, but it's 1023 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 2: the women have you know, because those are the purchasers, 1024 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 2: those are the people that. 1025 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 3: Are buying things. 1026 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 2: And but yeah, I mean, I I'm excited for my 1027 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 2: next chapter either is. I'll tell you guys, there's some 1028 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 2: exciting stuff coming up very soon. 1029 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 5: Goodness, gracious, very since the best teas we've ever got. 1030 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 5: Can we just end on that? 1031 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's I'm really I haven't been this 1032 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 2: excited in a long time, and can anymore. Well, I'll 1033 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 2: say this to your point, I thought about your question. 1034 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 2: I do love what I do. I'm very excited to 1035 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 2: get back to it. And but I learned from my 1036 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 2: mistakes of don't just do it to do it, don't 1037 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 2: don't just jump into something. I want to be happy 1038 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 2: and I want to love what I'm doing, and so 1039 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,800 Speaker 2: I was able to find a passion project and something 1040 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 2: I truly love and do this with the woman I love, 1041 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 2: and I cannot wait. There is something very imminent, very 1042 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 2: exciting on the horizon. I haven't talked to anybody about it, 1043 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 2: Like literally, you two are the only one outside the 1044 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 2: outside of my bedroom that I've talked to this about. 1045 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 3: But do you have a lot of energy right now? 1046 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 2: Like are you Yeah, I'm on a high right now. Yeah, 1047 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 2: it's I'm really excited. I've been this excited in twenty years. 1048 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 1049 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be cool. 1050 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 3: Let's go. 1051 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 4: Well, and you Morena are kind of a power couple too, 1052 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 4: I would say, like, she's always been a great broadcast. 1053 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 3: Now this Laura, Okay, I knew I was going to 1054 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:18,399 Speaker 3: say yes, no, no, no, no, no, no. 1055 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 4: You guys are like, she's so she's so good at 1056 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 4: what she does and obviously you had twenty years is 1057 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 4: an incredible run for anything. 1058 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 2: So she's a badass. And in my dream and you 1059 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 2: talk about what you want to love and I was like, 1060 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 2: if I do something, I'm doing it with you, like 1061 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 2: I never again will I? And I hate to say 1062 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 2: never because my mom always taught me not to, so 1063 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 2: it always rings in my ears when I say that word. 1064 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 2: But you know, I'm not going to be alone on 1065 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 2: the road ever again. Living that life, it was a 1066 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 2: it was a very empty life. I was very blessed 1067 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 2: and people have heard me say this many times. I 1068 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 2: loved what I did. I am not at all begrudging 1069 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 2: that life. It was wonderful and it changed my life. 1070 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 2: But I'm not going to go back to that. I 1071 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 2: have the choice now to not go back to it. 1072 00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:59,919 Speaker 2: I guess that's what I should say. 1073 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 3: And you at all to me, I do. 1074 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 2: And when I say you, I mean Ben. 1075 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:06,720 Speaker 3: Chris. 1076 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 5: Just before we go, I do have a funny story 1077 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 5: because I'm so excited for you. 1078 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:11,360 Speaker 3: I mean, you know that. 1079 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 5: I think you're the best to ever do it. So 1080 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,919 Speaker 5: whatever this next thing is, I think. 1081 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 3: It's gonna go. But thank you. 1082 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 5: I want to know if this is true, because if 1083 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 5: if it's not, I've lied to Hannah, who works on 1084 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 5: our show. We just recently rented out the Bachelor Mansion 1085 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 5: and did a whole kind of similar thing there. We 1086 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 5: brought in a lot of cool people, did a lot 1087 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 5: of interviews in one night, and we specifically our room 1088 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 5: for almost famous was a closet, and I said, I 1089 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 5: think this is where Chris used to sleep on the 1090 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 5: first night on. 1091 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,399 Speaker 3: Front Door two rights no upstairs master bedrooms? Was I wrong? 1092 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 2: Or that was like life was so janky back in 1093 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 2: the day, Like towards the end, I got a trailer 1094 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But in the beginning, well, I 1095 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 2: first started shooting there. We did stuff so on the cheap, 1096 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 2: and and so we would use that master closet and 1097 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 2: as not only a dressing room, but it was the 1098 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 2: only place I could hang where I knew no cameras 1099 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 2: would come nobody would come in, and so I would 1100 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 2: just lay pillows down and I would climb under in 1101 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 2: the closet under the racks, and that's where i'd sleep 1102 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 2: until they got me. 1103 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 5: They were shocked. The team was shocked. I was like, 1104 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 5: I think, this is this is what Chris was telling me. 1105 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,720 Speaker 5: Is the room that he was Gina and Carrie. 1106 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 2: Gina obviously wardrobe and Carrie, uh my wonderful makeup sorry 1107 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 2: by Carrie Wardrobe, Gina my makeup artists for many, many years. 1108 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 2: And so yeah, we'd hang out in there and just 1109 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 2: sit and talk, and I would go to sleep. And 1110 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 2: that was one hundred percent. Slept in that closet so 1111 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,439 Speaker 2: many nights, and that's when I thought. 1112 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 5: What am I doing? That's this is it? 1113 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,399 Speaker 2: Man? And uh, you guys, obviously you've rented it from 1114 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 2: a friend of mine. Yeah, you know, I know the 1115 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,240 Speaker 2: owners of that house because. 1116 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:53,439 Speaker 3: There's two of them. 1117 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so they they they owned that house. So 1118 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 2: their son went to high school with my son and 1119 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 2: they played lacrosse together. So it was really funny. The 1120 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 2: year in lacrosse party was at the mansion. Wow, but 1121 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 2: it was at Marshall, So Marshall as my friend Harridan 1122 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 2: is who owns that house and so Marshall and you know, 1123 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 2: I was there and I was. 1124 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 3: Like, this is really weird a house. 1125 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 2: Yes, so like their TV is there there there, I've 1126 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 2: never seen it unbachelorized. I've only seen it, so I was. 1127 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 2: It was. I'm like, oh, don't don't sit there, don't 1128 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 2: do not want to go on that hot top, guys, 1129 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 2: I wouldn't keep your hands up. But it was really 1130 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,399 Speaker 2: weird to go in and like have dinner at their 1131 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 2: house and just hang out. It was so weird, like 1132 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,320 Speaker 2: just very meta world's colliding. 1133 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,479 Speaker 3: It was weird to be there. 1134 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 5: I'd never seen it unbachelorized either. It's very weird too, 1135 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 5: but it wasn't. It was kind of bachelorized. 1136 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 4: When we were there was no furniture, the place was empty. Sure, sure, 1137 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 4: but it wasn't it wasn't a home. 1138 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,919 Speaker 2: It'd be weird to go back. Do they still shoot there? 1139 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 2: They do, so they still shoot the show like the 1140 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 2: first couple. Okay, So I don't know it'd be weird 1141 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 2: to go back. I mean, I know Marshall really well, 1142 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 2: and I you know, it'd be weird to be back that. 1143 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what it would feel like. 1144 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 3: It felt weird for me. There's a lot of memories. 1145 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 5: I Jess was there, so I was kind of showing 1146 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 5: her around and then yeah, I mean it's the start of, 1147 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 5: you know, the next chapter of her life for you know, 1148 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 5: at least of people sitting in this room, every one 1149 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 5: of us showed up to that. 1150 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,439 Speaker 2: That would be weird. If you and Jess had sex 1151 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 2: with the mansion. 1152 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you know? He didn't? 1153 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 2: And you know did I hope you did? But what 1154 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 2: if you knocked her up and you, like, you like, 1155 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,800 Speaker 2: conceived your baby at the mansion. 1156 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 4: In the closet that Chris Harris underneath the racket clothes. 1157 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 5: All right, Hey, we got to get to dinner. We 1158 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,439 Speaker 5: have a big week, a big week of content coming 1159 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 5: out with some incredible people. 1160 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:42,760 Speaker 3: Again. 1161 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 5: We're in Carmel, California. I gave you the list of 1162 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 5: people that are here. It's gonna be really fun. We 1163 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 5: got to get to dinner with everybody though, and say, hello, 1164 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 5: it's gonna be fun dinner. It's gonna be weird, and 1165 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 5: it's gonna be it's always weird, awkward fun, and then 1166 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 5: everyone is. It's that first kind of like four or 1167 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 5: five minutes, everyone's like, what do I do with my hands? 1168 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 2: And then we kind of have a cocktail, and then 1169 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,320 Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be great, and then then all of 1170 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 2: a sudden, it's four in the morning. 1171 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 3: That's a lot of our friends it is. 1172 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a great time, like we you know, 1173 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 2: when we did this h in Santa Barbara is the 1174 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 2: greatest ever. Hey that one. Raise a glass. Boys. Always 1175 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 2: good to see you. 1176 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 3: I love you guys. 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