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Speaker 3: dot com. Turning now to H one B's It's been

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Speaker 3: a hot topic on the internet and with the Trump

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Speaker 3: administration now.

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Speaker 1: For some time.

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Speaker 3: Before we even get into it, some of you may

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Speaker 3: not even know what an H one B visa is.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of an interesting set up here, Ryan, and

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Speaker 3: for many critics, it's what's wrong with the US immigration system.

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Speaker 3: For the pro business folks, they say, it's what's great

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Speaker 3: about the US immigration system, but the effective way it's designed,

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Speaker 3: And please correct me if you think I'm not contextualized

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Speaker 3: it properly is that companies will have jobs which require.

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Speaker 1: Certain set of skills.

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Speaker 3: The precursor for being able to get an H one

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Speaker 3: B visa for your worker is that no American can

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Speaker 3: do this job. So I need somebody with a specific

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Speaker 3: set of skills. It's not like the one visa, which

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Speaker 3: is like a talent visa, but I need somebody to

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Speaker 3: be able to come here, so called best and the

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Speaker 3: brightest people who are better educated, let's say they're in

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Speaker 3: general population, to be able to come in and take

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Speaker 3: this job. It's a win win. They get a fast

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Speaker 3: track to a Green card, they get a job while

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Speaker 3: they're here. Though there are certain things like, oh, you

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Speaker 3: can't leave the job. You actually don't have rights because

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Speaker 3: they controy your visa right, So there's some downsides there

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Speaker 3: for the employee. They're willing to take a lower wage.

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Speaker 3: Largely why because it's a very easy way to get

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Speaker 3: residency in America. And if you're sire here for a

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Speaker 3: certain amount of time, you get here on the H

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Speaker 3: one B visa and then you get to the Green

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Speaker 3: card and then you can go and do whatever you want.

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Speaker 3: So the benefit that the companies say is the h

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Speaker 3: X one BE visa allows the best and the brightest

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Speaker 3: of the whole world to come to America and to

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Speaker 3: do all these great jobs to make our country better,

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Speaker 3: to make our economy better, and it's a win win

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Speaker 3: for everybody. The critics of that, both left and right,

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Speaker 3: by the way, Bernie Sanders and the hard right would say, well,

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Speaker 3: it actually is exploitative because of what I just laid out.

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Speaker 3: The company controls your wage, but second baked into the

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Speaker 3: able to go somewhere else, which obviously is going to

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Speaker 3: reflect in the wage, but part of the wage that

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Speaker 3: you accept and potentially less wage is let's say you

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Speaker 3: take fifteen thousand dollars less than an American, Well, it's

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Speaker 3: worth it because you're on a fast rector a green card, right.

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Speaker 3: And so the argument is that it crowds out American workers,

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Speaker 1: Have labor rights.

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Speaker 3: Right, they have the ability to contest, to non compete,

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Speaker 3: they can leave whenever they want, except the right exactly.

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Speaker 1: You can tell that on your right.

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of like the left right kind of

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Speaker 1: Regardless, it became.

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Speaker 3: A massive culture war issue over the last nine months,

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Speaker 3: So the theory behind it is that if somebody is

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Speaker 3: And that means that by raising the cost that it

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Speaker 3: all of you that Trump announced one hundred thousand dollars fee.

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Speaker 3: He actually announced it by Howard Lutnik as well, that

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Speaker 1: So here was a rollout.

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Speaker 4: One of the most abused visa systems in our current

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Speaker 4: immigration system has been the H one B Non Immigrant

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Speaker 4: Visa program. This is supposed to allow highly skilled labors

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Speaker 4: who work and fields that Americans don't work in to

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Speaker 4: come into the United States of America. What this proclamation

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Speaker 4: will do is raise the fee that companies pay to

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Speaker 4: sponsor H one B applicants to one hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 4: This will ensure that the people they're bringing in are

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Speaker 4: American workers. So it'll protect American workers, but ensure that

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Speaker 4: bring them to the United States.

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Speaker 5: We need workers, we need workers, we need grant workers,

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Speaker 5: and there's pretty much ensures that.

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Speaker 6: That's what's going to happen.

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Speaker 5: I think John, you agree.

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Speaker 1: With Well, they're one hundred thousand.

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Speaker 3: Dollars per year.

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Speaker 1: So the whole idea is no more, will these big

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Speaker 3: Workers one hundred thousand dollars per year. I don't know

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Speaker 3: But that's not what ended up happening because immediately big

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Speaker 3: immediately issued this clarification. Let's put this up here on

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Speaker 3: the screen from Press Secretary Caroline Levitt. To be clear,

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Speaker 3: this is not an annual fee. It's a one time

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Speaker 3: fee that applies only to the petition. Do you remember

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Speaker 3: what Howard Lutnick just said. He said per year. That's

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Speaker 3: what annual means.

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Speaker 1: Just I want to be clear on my terms annual

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Speaker 1: means free year. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Second, those who already hold H one B visas and

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Speaker 3: be charged one hundred thousand dollars to re enter the

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Speaker 3: way that it was originally announced they would have been.

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Speaker 3: H one B Visa holders can leave and re enter

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Speaker 3: the country to the same extent as they normally.

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Speaker 1: Would, whatever ability they have to do that that is

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Speaker 1: not impacted by yesterday's proclamation. Three.

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Speaker 3: This applies only to new visas, not renewals, and not

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Speaker 3: current visa holders. It will first apply in the next

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Speaker 1: So yeah, just laying it out there.

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Speaker 3: There are seven hundred and thirty thousand people currently in

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Speaker 3: plus an additional five hundred and fifty thousand dollars dependence

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Speaker 3: United States with H one B status. The vast majority

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Speaker 3: of these people work in the technology industry. This is

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Speaker 3: like the bread and butter really of the way that

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Speaker 3: they have that they've you know, crafted their business and does.

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Speaker 1: Say how many in healthcare? Oh a lot of think

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Speaker 1: while you talk, I will look that up.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so I think you're sketching out of the H

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Speaker 7: one B program is pretty accurate. The problem here, I

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Speaker 7: think is the remedy here. I think it is absolutely

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Speaker 7: fair to say, and it is correct that H one

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Speaker 7: then to you know, downward pressure wages against American workers.

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Speaker 7: That has to be balanced, So this needs to be reformed.

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Speaker 7: The perform I would suggest is that the H one

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Speaker 7: And so.

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Speaker 1: I think that's like the one visa, like the talent visa, right.

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Speaker 7: And yes, yes it's called this outstanding is what people

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Speaker 1: Then the counter.

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Speaker 7: Argument would be, well, no, screw them, like we have

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Speaker 7: That we are a This is where I kind of

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Speaker 7: in a global economy. The thing, and I see this

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Speaker 1: You're talking about the brain drain theory, the brain.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, by pulling in the best doctors from Pakistan, the

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Speaker 7: something like fifty percent of the PhDs are are foreign born.

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Speaker 7: They they then create companies here in the United States,

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Speaker 7: which gives us our competitive advantage.

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Speaker 1: This is the gen the rest of the world.

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Speaker 3: Because this is where I differ from This is where

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Speaker 3: the big tech guys will will they come here and

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Speaker 3: they form companies. I'm like, yeah, doing what doing NFTs.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, great, thank you for increasing American GDP.

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Speaker 3: All right, you know, so you beget filthy rich. You

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Speaker 3: can buy a house in Santa Monica.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, a lot of work in hospitals in Kentucky. No,

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Speaker 1: you're you're not wrong. Listen.

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Speaker 3: And that's the reality of the balance and that's why

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Speaker 3: so I have the breakdown here. In recent years, sixty

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Speaker 3: five percent of approved H one b's are for computer

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Speaker 3: related occupation. A large majority are in software engineering, systems,

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Speaker 3: analysis programming. After that, the industry sector by sector kind

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Speaker 3: four to five percent. The reason why that's important is

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Speaker 3: that we have the healthcare exception where they immediately started

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely not in London, that's right, used to say.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, but that my point about the Nvidia, the GDP,

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Speaker 3: you know, the whole competitiveness thing. I really did used

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Speaker 3: to believe that, and of course it's still true to

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Speaker 3: a certain extent, but we can't pretend that in a

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Speaker 3: world where fifty percent of consumer spending is in the

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Speaker 3: top ten percent that any of this and P five

446
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Speaker 3: hundred nonsense matters to the ninety percent of the consuming public. Right,

447
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Speaker 3: It's about the basic electricity costs and all that. And

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Speaker 3: for them, I'm not so sure I see the H

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Speaker 3: one B benefit and so it should be reformed, but definitely.

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Speaker 7: I mean it should be in fash Yeah, but just

451
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Speaker 7: because our political system can't figure out how to get

452
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Speaker 7: our oligarchs in control. Doesn't mean that we don't need

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Speaker 7: smart people in this country totally.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying to throw the baby out with the bathwater,

456
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Speaker 3: I do. This gets to my point though, is that

457
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Speaker 3: is it really the best in the brightest that O

458
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Speaker 3: one visa exists for that purpose? Sometimes it is just

459
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Speaker 3: like entry level software engineer, which, look, I'm not diminishing

460
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Speaker 3: that it's a very difficult job and a.

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Speaker 7: Ton of silicon value layoffs right exactly, which is which

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Speaker 7: cuts against cuts the other way. It's like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 7: why do you need all these H one b's. Yeah,

464
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Speaker 7: that recently these companies are firing all of these did

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Speaker 7: you see that at Microsoft?

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Speaker 3: They recently fired thousands of workers, and then in their

467
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Speaker 3: lottery then they're like applying for souths. So you're like, okay,

468
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Speaker 3: this is about stocks, all right, and your two trillion

469
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Speaker 3: dollar market cap or something like that. So I think

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Speaker 3: we can all kind of figure out what's happening. Let's

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Speaker 3: get to Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: Ryan. This is a Ryan special drop some knowledge on us.

473
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Speaker 1: What's happening.

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Speaker 7: Okay, this situation is deadly serious and could be heading

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Speaker 7: towards a regime change effort in Venezuela. Trump at the

476
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Speaker 7: same time as ratching up the tensions and putting everything

477
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Speaker 7: on red alert, and also at the same time making

478
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Speaker 7: a giant mockery of it. He went to truth social

479
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Speaker 7: and said, top secret, let's roll this here, top secret.

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Speaker 7: We caught the Venezuela and militia in training a very

481
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Speaker 7: serious threat. He posted that on truth social, showing this

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Speaker 7: and what this is is Nicholas Mendoro. In the wake

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Speaker 7: of having a fifty million dollars bounty put on his head,

484
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Speaker 7: in the wake of at least three ships being blown

485
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Speaker 7: out of the water in the Caribbean by the United

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Speaker 7: States and all of the passengers burned.

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Speaker 1: Alive, and in the wake of.

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Speaker 7: Israel's assassination campaign around the world, Maduro has been on

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Speaker 7: heightened alert and has organized tens of thousands of Venezuelans

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Speaker 7: into into militias and is also preparing the Venezuelan military

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Speaker 7: for a potential for a potential invasion, although it seems

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Speaker 7: to me more what could be more likely is just

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Speaker 7: you know what they clinically call it, decapitation.

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Speaker 1: Strike, Yeah, destabilizations.

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Speaker 7: Like I was, like I worry that that Trump has

496
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Speaker 7: been hanging out in the Oval office watching net Yahoo

497
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Speaker 7: assassinate whoever he wants in in Yabon or Lebanon, or

498
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Speaker 7: Iran or in Syria. And it's like, wait a minute,

499
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Speaker 7: you can just you can just do that. You can

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Speaker 7: just kill civilian leaders that you don't like. And then

501
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Speaker 7: by kind of breaking the seal of just killing civilian

502
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Speaker 7: people in the Careerbean, he calls them drug traffickers. But

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Speaker 7: there's no no congressional authorization to kill drug traffickers in

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Speaker 7: the Caribbean. There's no international law that would say that

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Speaker 7: if you think that somebody has cocaine on a boat,

506
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Speaker 7: you are you can send a drone over top of

507
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Speaker 7: it and burn them alive.

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Speaker 1: That's just not a thing.

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Speaker 7: But he's doing it, so we could put uh, so

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Speaker 7: Trump has done that to at least three ships. Yesterday

511
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Speaker 7: he said again that he had done it, but reporters

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Speaker 7: are not clear whether he was referring to the same

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Speaker 7: one that he announced previously or whether this.

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Speaker 1: Is a fourth one.

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Speaker 7: But we can put up E two on this on

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Speaker 7: the screen here, this is Trump's video that another another

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Speaker 7: of the videos that they released there are there is

518
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Speaker 7: Trump burning people alive.

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Speaker 1: In the in the Caribbean.

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Speaker 7: It's claiming to have you discovered, you know, that they

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Speaker 7: were trafficking in drugs. It's ironic that you would have,

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Speaker 7: you know, special forces involved in this, given as the

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Speaker 7: as the new book the Fort Bragcartel right shows us

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Speaker 7: nobody is more involved in drug trafficking than special Forces operators.

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Speaker 1: So well, at least according to those select group. Yeah

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Speaker 1: we got we got a lot of Yes. It turns

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Speaker 1: out the US.

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Speaker 7: Military and intelligence agencies have a lot of intel on

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Speaker 7: which ships are moving around with with with products.

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Speaker 3: I won't put them all down there. There are some

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Speaker 3: I assume are good. I'm joking, all right, I think

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Speaker 3: a lot are great people.

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Speaker 1: But no.

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Speaker 3: Obviously Sets Sets book was pretty extraordinary. We did see

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Speaker 3: this from I was actually curious for your take on

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Speaker 3: this from the Dominican Republic. Can we put E three

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Speaker 3: up here on the screen? They say they recovered cocaine

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Speaker 3: from the boat that was struck. It was the first

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Speaker 3: time they had carried out a joint operation, they said,

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Speaker 3: against narco terrorism in the Caribbean with the United States.

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Speaker 3: What are our relations with the Dominican Republic? Like, is

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Speaker 3: this client Okay, So are they going along with this?

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Speaker 1: Is this something they like wanted.

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Speaker 3: To do, you know, like in terms of US power

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Speaker 3: projection in the Caribbean, is this something that they welcome?

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Speaker 1: Like, are they anti Venezuela.

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Speaker 3: That's what made me curious about this announcement because obviously

548
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Speaker 3: they're backing it up big time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was full of drugs. It was a thousand

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Speaker 1: q o's or whatever that was on the boat.

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Speaker 7: Uh yeah, I mean Dominican Republic doesn't have any agency

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Speaker 7: when it comes to the United States. We we tell them,

553
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Speaker 7: you know, which way is up and which way is down.

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Speaker 7: And also if they push back remotely, then then we're

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Speaker 7: going to look at you know what involvement you know,

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Speaker 7: various Dominican Republic officials have in the drug trade. The

557
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Speaker 7: drug trade penetrates every every level of government in every government,

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Speaker 7: including our government. And so it would not be surprising

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Speaker 7: to me at all if we had actually reliable intelligence

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Speaker 7: about you know, which which boats have cocaine on them

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Speaker 7: and which boats don't. We've got we've got people all

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Speaker 7: We've got people everywhere all over the place here.

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Speaker 3: The question I think is about is this any of

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Speaker 3: this about drugs and That's kind of what I was

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Speaker 3: getting at with the Dominican Republic, you know, and kind

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Speaker 3: of backing up and legitimizing this operation, Like how what

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Speaker 3: are their relations with Maduro? Would they want to like

568
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Speaker 3: who wants regime change in Venezuela other than the neocons

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Speaker 3: in Miami?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, unfortunately that's all you need because the lead

572
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Speaker 7: neocon in Miami happens to be the Secretary of State.

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Speaker 7: So if we can actually for a second jump jump

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Speaker 7: to E five, what really is going on here? And

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Speaker 7: this is according to senior level people that I've spoken to,

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Speaker 7: So this is The Washington Post had its big story

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Speaker 7: saying da faced pushback at White House Pentagon after urging

578
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Speaker 7: Mexico strikes. So early on in the Trump administration, the

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Speaker 7: acting dea head urged the Trump administration to carry out

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Speaker 7: Trump's promise to bomb to basically to assass and eight

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Speaker 7: cartel leaders and to bomb production facilities in Mexico. We

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Speaker 7: promised we're gonna do it. Let's let's go ahead and

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Speaker 7: do it. They got pushed back because a Shinebaum is like,

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Speaker 7: you don't do this, do not do not bomb Mexico

585
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Speaker 7: and be a lot of the lawyers in the early

586
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Speaker 7: days were like, you absolutely cannot do this, and and

587
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Speaker 7: see the chance that you're going to kill Americans is

588
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Speaker 7: pretty high if you do this, and so they backed

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Speaker 7: off of this. But Trump, and I think one of

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Speaker 7: the few things that Trump has a has genuine sentiments

591
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 7: about is his hostility to drug use. Like just he

592
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Speaker 7: personally finds it MESSI his brother had an addiction issue.

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Speaker 1: It's all.

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Speaker 7: It's always something he has hated. You can just see

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Speaker 7: it in him.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the things I love most about him.

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Speaker 7: There you go, h and so Rubio and this is

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Speaker 7: what this is my understanding what went on internal. Rubio

599
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Speaker 7: very effectively picked that up. Rubio has been boxed out

600
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Speaker 7: of Ukraine, boxed out the Middle East. His real thing

601
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Speaker 7: that he wants to do is, you know, go after Cube,

602
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Speaker 7: but go after Nicaraugo go after Venezuela. This is the

603
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Speaker 7: the fever dream of the of the South Florida elite.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Trump doesn't really want to do that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, even though he had a basically did

607
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Speaker 7: that in his first term, it's it's not his thing. Yeah,

608
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Speaker 7: Like he's like, what are we getting involved in all

609
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 7: of this stuff here? Like you you don't like you,

610
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Speaker 7: but you don't like Venezuela. That's that's not our problem.

611
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Speaker 7: He's more he I think he instinctually is more in

612
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Speaker 7: the Rick Grenelle camp, which is like, look, the SITKO

613
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Speaker 7: wants to sell us oil.

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Speaker 1: They got oil, who cares, Let's figure it. Let's figure

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Speaker 1: it out. You you did like eight coups. It's not working.

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Speaker 1: H Let's let's just let's just do this like, let's

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Speaker 1: do business. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Uh So what Rubio cleverly did is he shoehorned his

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Speaker 7: agenda of regime change into Trump's agenda of blowing up

620
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Speaker 7: cartel guys by saying, look, Venezuela is actually he's he's

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Speaker 7: not he's not a communist. Well yeah, he is a communist.

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Speaker 7: He's terrible for that. But what he really is is

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Speaker 7: a ARCO terrorists. And so then they put this fifty

624
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Speaker 7: million dollars bounty out. They went out and they said

625
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Speaker 7: he runs trend a Raga, which is not actually like

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Speaker 7: it's not primarily a drug trafficking gang.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had one da vid rojas on to talk

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Speaker 1: about that. I mean, I've said this from the day one.

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Speaker 1: So they fixed all the intelligence to make it.

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Speaker 3: Exactly It's like, guys, ninety nine percent of fentanyl is Mexico,

631
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Speaker 3: and from ninety nine percent ago, nine percent of it

632
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Speaker 3: comes from Mexico and China. If you want to bomb somebody,

633
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Speaker 3: that's where you would bomb. We're not going to do

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Speaker 3: that because of NAFTA and because of the US economy.

635
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Speaker 3: It's literally it would shut down overnight, right uh. And

636
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Speaker 3: in my opinion, you correct me if I'm wrong, it

637
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Speaker 3: would probably cause like mass, populous backlash inside of Mexico

638
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Speaker 3: and collapse relations with the Shineban government, which broadly are

639
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: actually not bad right now, which is really all Trump

640
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Speaker 3: cares about.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 7: So there's that, and then yeah, god no, here's the

643
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Speaker 7: other annoying thing about this. Theo Von when he had JD.

644
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Speaker 7: Vance On, had one of the funniest lines. He was like,

645
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Speaker 7: are you really a country if you can't even get

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Speaker 7: decent cocaine anymore?

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Speaker 1: He's like, He's like, you know, he's sober now, you

648
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Speaker 1: should be happy.

649
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal now reports that cocaine is more plentiful

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Speaker 3: than ever.

651
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Speaker 1: All right, So the.

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Speaker 7: Problem is and this was what Theobona was complaining about.

653
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Speaker 7: And he's sober now, so not planning for himself, but

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Speaker 7: for a friend that there's such a high risk of

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Speaker 7: their being fentanyl laced into your cocaine that you might

656
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Speaker 7: die for just a little little bump on a Saturday night. Yes,

657
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Speaker 7: And his point is like, what kind of country is that.

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Speaker 7: That's not a real country, JD. You need to fix this.

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Speaker 1: You need to fix the fentanyl problems so that you

660
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Speaker 1: can get high.

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Speaker 7: The coke that is least likely to have fentanyl in

662
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 7: it is the stuff that's coming straight from the jungle

663
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Speaker 7: on the boats.

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Speaker 1: Oh, from Venezuela. Okay.

665
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Speaker 7: And so you're going, so what is Trump doing taking

666
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Speaker 7: the cleanest coke?

667
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: It's like clean coal. They take it out, blowing it up,

668
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Speaker 1: clean it.

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Speaker 7: And so what are we going to be left with

670
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Speaker 7: this dirty Mexican stuff that's intermingled with fentanyl, which is

671
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Speaker 7: only going to lead to more people dying. That so

672
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Speaker 7: funny kind of country.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a better country where people to

674
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Speaker 3: do less cocaine.

675
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Speaker 1: But that's the problem. People are doing more cocaine apparently

676
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: than ever. So people are tired, man, whatever, that's a

677
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: whole other people. Oh I use it for productivity, Oh yeah, really,

678
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: productivity to drink more.

679
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Speaker 3: Okay, So let's stick though with the regime change, because

680
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: I think this is very important what you're saying. The

681
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: stats bear out ninety nine percent offence and all comes

682
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: from Mexico. Ninety three percent according to DEA's most racent figures,

683
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: cocaine comes from Colombia, transits through Mexico to the United States.

684
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Speaker 3: Seven percent comes through all different routes, including these boats.

685
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Speaker 3: For some reason, Venezuela is not at the top of

686
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Speaker 3: that list. But what's scary to me is this military

687
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: posture E four. Please let's put this up here on

688
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Speaker 3: the screen.

689
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

690
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: New York Times rights US military build up in Caribbean

691
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: signals broader campaign against Venezuela. Trump officials say the mission

692
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 3: aims to disrupt the drug trade, but military officials and

693
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 3: analysts say the real goal might be driving Venezuela's president

694
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Speaker 3: from power. I don't think it's might be when you

695
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: put a fifty million dollar bounty on a guy's head.

696
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be, it's not might be. But the question,

697
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: the only question is how far it goes. And here's

698
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: right exactly.

699
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Speaker 7: But here's the thing I've wondered, Like, Okay, the Chavistas,

700
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Speaker 7: whether it's Hugo Chavas or Mendoro have been in power

701
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Speaker 7: going on twenty seven years.

702
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Speaker 1: Yes, why is that? Why do we care? I'm with you,

703
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: I don't care. Yeah.

704
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you people do whatever you want to do as

705
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Speaker 3: long as you'll send the boatload of migrants over here.

706
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Speaker 1: I don't care about what you do, all right. I

707
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Speaker 1: mean it's one of those things where and the sanctions.

708
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Speaker 7: Who cares the sanctions are what are sending the boatload

709
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Speaker 7: of migrants?

710
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's the other deal that is on the table.

711
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 7: Lift sanctions, US gets oil, Venezuela takes a bunch of

712
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 7: migrants back like that, that deal is.

713
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Speaker 3: Well, Okay, let's answer the question honestly, why do we

714
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Speaker 3: care because a bunch of rich Venezuelan expats they're they're

715
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Speaker 3: holding for Yeah, they're.

716
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Speaker 1: Mad, which I get it. Yeah, I mean that's my family.

717
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, if my family was kicked out or whatever, I

718
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: totally understand.

719
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Speaker 1: I'm not diminishing your experience, but you.

720
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Speaker 3: Know, it would be a little bit the equivalent of

721
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 3: like our my family coming over here and then voting

722
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 3: solely on the issue of like being I don't know,

723
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: anti some political beating up the Congress Party in India

724
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Speaker 3: like who.

725
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Speaker 1: Cares about Yeah, it's exactly. It's like you guys figure

726
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: that out, all right.

727
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 3: You elect whoever you want to elect, and you know,

728
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 3: we'll meet with whoever is. I saw Juan actually sent

729
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 3: me this great tweet from some Venezuela and expatriot who

730
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: was just after the first bombing. It was like, I

731
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Speaker 3: voted for this, my verot good and.

732
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Speaker 1: It's true they did.

733
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, yeah, you're right, absolutely right, they all ironically

734
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 3: did vote for this. So you know who amongst us

735
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: should not be beholden to South Florida Ablitas so they

736
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Speaker 3: can get their villas in Caracas back. Yeah, I mean

737
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Speaker 3: it's a national security priority for the United States America.

738
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Speaker 7: There was an event at the United Nations, Yes, sirre

739
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 7: that almost defies description.

740
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Speaker 1: Let's roll. You have to see this to believe it.

741
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 7: See if you can figure out who these gentlemen are

742
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 7: rolling out on stage together.

743
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Speaker 6: Salama like them say it raise Alfen mass Allen and

744
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 6: sure Rough Mercedi. As you know, mister President, I spent

745
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 6: over thirty seven years in the US Army, and I

746
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 6: was a soldier, not a diplomat. So I hope you'll

747
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Speaker 6: forgive me if I speak with the directness of the

748
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 6: old soldier that I am, as I get the first

749
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Speaker 6: question out of the way, because the fact is that

750
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 6: we were on different sides. When I was commanding the

751
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 6: surgeon I Rock. You were, of course detained by US

752
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 6: forces for five years, including again when I was the

753
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 6: four star there. And here you are now, is the

754
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 6: president of Syria, which your forces liberated from the murderous

755
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 6: Bischar Alacid regime, to participate in your first You and

756
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 6: General Assembly as the president of your country. Earlier this

757
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 6: year you met the President of the United States, among

758
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 6: many other world leaders. Please help us understand how you

759
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 6: got from al Qaeda in Iraq twenty years ago to

760
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Speaker 6: where you are today, Syria's head of State on stage

761
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Speaker 6: in New York City.

762
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Speaker 5: At a time we were in their combat, and then

763
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Speaker 5: we now moved to the discourse.

764
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Speaker 1: We moved to discourse.

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, someone who went through war is one who

766
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 5: knows most important piece. Perhaps there were some mistakes sometimes

767
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 5: and that person's journey there are some mistakes, but what's

768
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 5: important is to focus on defending people from the threats

769
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 5: that they face, especially from the instability that could take

770
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Speaker 5: place in any region.

771
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Speaker 1: So yeah, that Ocamed. I'll shore up.

772
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Speaker 3: Just imagine you are an American soldier and you serve

773
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Speaker 3: or service member, and you served in Iraq in the

774
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Speaker 3: height of the surge, when a couple hundred Americans were

775
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: getting killed or wounded every month under David Petrayez to

776
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 3: hunt down to kill al Qaeda and Iraq, and for

777
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 3: that commander and then the former CIA director to be

778
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 3: sitting across Smiley and googly eyed at a literal terrorist

779
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 3: marked by the US government complicit in god knows how

780
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 3: many horrific crimes attacks on our soldiers, all because, let's

781
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 3: be honest, because the guy is willing to play ball

782
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: with who Ryan is and so because of that, Oh yeah,

783
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 3: it's it's such a great victory for the world that

784
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 3: Bashar al Asad is gone, really bringing back if if

785
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: this is the alternative, like what are we doing here?

786
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: You know?

787
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 3: And I got it for me, it's especially black billing.

788
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: My whole initial career was spent on these issues.

789
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Speaker 1: Isis.

790
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: I was a true believer, you know. I didn't want

791
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 3: to believe the conspiracy theory about or what I thought

792
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 3: was that the US was fund.

793
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: That the US was funning. I said, no, that's ridiculous.

794
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 3: I know these people fight, you know, they really believe

795
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 3: in uh, you know, in a better democracy for Syria

796
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: and for all that. No, we turned it into a

797
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: playground for the entire world. We facilitated along by it,

798
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 3: not just US, Russians, Katari, Saudi's, everybody, Turks, everybody got

799
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 3: in on the action. Hundreds of thousands of people were killed,

800
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: millions were displaced, all for it to end in the

801
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: result of thousands of Americans died, thousands to prevent out

802
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: Kaida and also to respond to the nine eleven attacks,

803
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: only to have the Cehi a director glaze an al

804
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: Qaeda terrorist operative in New York City. It's too much

805
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 3: for me. But that's that's what makes me so cynical

806
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: about the state of the world. Is like, actually that shit.

807
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 3: Apparently that was the point the whole time. We got

808
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: to get rid of a sod. He's a murderous dictator,

809
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: so we've got to replace him with a new murderous

810
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: one because he's good with Israel. Oh great, okay, great, awesome,

811
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Speaker 3: good good for the people.

812
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Speaker 1: Siria.

813
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Speaker 3: I guess if you're Christian, good luck to you. You know,

814
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: you might just get blown up in a in a

815
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: church or something like that.

816
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 7: There were a couple other psychedelic moments that we can

817
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 7: roll through before we finish.

818
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Speaker 1: Put F two up here.

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Speaker 6: How are you holding up under all this pressure? Are

820
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 6: you getting time to do some thinking? Are you getting

821
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 6: enough sleep at night? Again, I've been there and it

822
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 6: is so very very hard. And your many fans, and

823
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 6: I am one of them, we do have worries. We're

824
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 6: nationalists certainly, yes, a degree of political Islam. But frankly,

825
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 6: what you have done since toppling the bijaral acid regime

826
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 6: has validated what it is that I assessed it. And

827
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Speaker 6: I was criticized by the way quite considerably. I just

828
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Speaker 6: want you to tell you, really, on behalf of all

829
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 6: the people who are here, that this conversation has truly

830
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 6: filled me with enormous hope. It has been very very

831
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 6: heartening and illuminating. Your vision is powerful and clear. Your

832
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 6: demeanor itself is very impressive as well, And so again,

833
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 6: on behalf of all here and all those that are watching,

834
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 6: virtually and so forth, we thank you for sharing your

835
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 6: vision today. We wish you strength and wisdom and the

836
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 6: difficult work ahead. We obviously hope for your success in shalah,

837
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 6: because at the end of the day, your success is

838
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 6: our success.

839
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Speaker 1: Your success is our success.

840
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, words for this again, and he's like, we've he's

841
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 3: comparing his experience as an American soldier to the al

842
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 3: Qaeda terrorists who he was trying to kill twenty years ago.

843
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Speaker 7: At other points in that he said, can you talk

844
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Speaker 7: a little bit about how you obtained your weapons?

845
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, how he got the weapons? What

846
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: he talking? All right? Hey, and he's like, what about

847
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: leadership training? Yeah?

848
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 7: He was literally asking what kind of leadership training how

849
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 7: Kaeda was doing because of how and hey, look, credit

850
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 7: Worth's due.

851
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: All the critics, all the critics who were screaming into

852
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: the void on the internet. They were all right, every

853
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: single one of them, all right about al Qaeda, about

854
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 3: this yea, including by the way, the former the current

855
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: DN I, who at one point, you know, I had

856
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 3: a very different take on this. She was one hundred

857
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 3: percent correct this entire I can't even believe my eyes

858
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 3: in front of us. And I just want to underscore again,

859
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: none of this has anything to do with American interests,

860
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Speaker 3: because nobody ever particularly cared about Bashar al Assade to

861
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: the extent that it was a problem. It was about

862
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: the migrant crisis, which you know, if that was it,

863
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: then you would want a quick award that the Civil

864
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: War right exactly came from the Civil War. You would

865
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Speaker 3: want the ward added turned it into a Russian right exactly.

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Speaker 3: Israel is the only people who had a problem with

867
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Speaker 3: Bashar al assade. And now since then, what's been happening.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, you know, there's been a bunch of strikes

869
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Speaker 3: in Israel. And in fact, even though this guy has

870
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 3: been playing ball with Israel that they still struck the

871
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: presidential palace just to make sure, just so you know,

872
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Speaker 3: we will kill you. You have to play ball with

873
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: us completely. Let's go in and put F four up

874
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 3: there on the screen. Just a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 3: he said that a border deal with Israel could come

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Speaker 3: within days. That deal, by the way, would basically expand

877
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: Great Israel even further into Syria beyond the borders, even

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Speaker 3: that they used to fight with usad about. He was,

879
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Speaker 3: to be fair asked about it by Petraeus, He's like,

880
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: we're not there yet, but obviously they're keeping communication lines open.

881
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Speaker 3: There were specifically also calls for him to join the

882
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: Abraham Accords so that's what our grand experiment in Syria,

883
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Speaker 3: which again, you know, if you're me, I've covered this

884
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Speaker 3: from almost as day.

885
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Speaker 1: One of the Civil War.

886
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Speaker 3: So to be here fourteen years later or or no,

887
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Speaker 3: eleven years later and to see this never in my

888
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Speaker 3: wildest dreams.

889
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Speaker 7: And what he kept asking for in the Petraeus interview

890
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Speaker 7: and we put up F three on the screen here

891
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 7: is for the US to right and the world to

892
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Speaker 7: complete the lifting of sanctions, which frankly they should, like

893
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 7: what's the point, like you go, you know, you got your.

894
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: Guy, It doesn't matter anymore.

895
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Speaker 3: I mean, the damage is all done, right, so at

896
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 3: this point, like, yeah, I guess, although I mean if

897
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Speaker 3: we're going to maintain any.

898
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Speaker 1: It's just like, what is this all about? Then?

899
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Speaker 3: We spent twenty five year or twenty four years fight

900
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 3: the war on Terror for this to be the end,

901
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: Like it just it's sick.

902
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 7: It's it's really asking the US public to just swallow it.

903
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Speaker 1: And normally about how many people know about this part

904
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Speaker 1: of it is yeah, yeah, I mean if.

905
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Speaker 3: You're an American soldier, though I hope you pay attention,

906
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: I really do. You were used disgustingly. Some people very

907
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: courageous people, not me. I wish I had said it

908
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: at the time. They were one hundred percent right, they

909
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 3: really were.

910
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 7: Meanwhile, I don't know if you saw this, Uh contemporary Isis,

911
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 7: which those same critics now say is a basically propped

912
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 7: up by Israel in the United States.

913
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Speaker 3: Uh.

914
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Speaker 7: Just the other day, as all these European capitals were

915
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Speaker 7: are now recognizing Palestinian statehood, they and that they they

916
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Speaker 7: ISIS put out a statement saying that they wanted people

917
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 7: to attack Europe. Just an interesting timing, Like, just just

918
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Speaker 7: as Europe is recognized sing It's like, guys, if you're

919
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 7: trying to make it look like you are a proxy

920
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 7: of Israel, like you, you couldn't pick a better time

921
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 7: to threaten European capitals with terrorist attacks, just as they're

922
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 7: recognizing a Palestinian state. You know, they said, it's like

923
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Speaker 7: to do it in solidarity with whatever.

924
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: Like it is.

925
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 7: Blackpill is good as a phrase for it, because we

926
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Speaker 7: are we remember nine to eleven. The ISIS beheadings and

927
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Speaker 7: grotesque displays of violence are seared into our memories.

928
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Speaker 3: If you're a zoomer, you don't even understand what that

929
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 3: moment was. I'm not even talking about nine eleven. I'm

930
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 3: talking about what was his name and Stephen.

931
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Speaker 1: That's what it is.

932
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Speaker 3: I mean, we've watched their debts like it's equivalent to

933
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 3: the Kirk thing. We all experience that collectively on the

934
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Speaker 3: original on the early Internet. Or remember the Jordanian pilot

935
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Speaker 3: being burned live and they burned the case in a

936
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Speaker 3: cage like we.

937
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 7: They lost twenty Egyptians, right, remember the fall of Mosul

938
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Speaker 7: executed them.

939
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then all those Yazdi women who were raped

940
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 3: and held as sex slaves, like to live through that.

941
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Speaker 3: And then the righteous indignation of the American people of

942
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Speaker 3: some mad people like how could we let this happen?

943
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: We have to go back, we have to do something

944
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: about this. And the fact is is that all of

945
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Speaker 3: the naysayers who were like this is all a deep

946
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Speaker 3: state cover to you know, go after a sod and

947
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Speaker 3: to prop up al Kaida there were one hundred percent

948
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: correct because look at the end state of where it

949
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Speaker 3: all came about.

950
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the and the US was doing this ever

951
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Speaker 1: since World War Two.

952
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Speaker 7: We were funding these death squads throughout Central and South America,

953
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Speaker 7: in Indonesia, uh, funding the you know, the worst butchers

954
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Speaker 7: around the world, and so it makes sense that we

955
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Speaker 7: would continue funding butchers.

956
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but during the Old War, it was under the

957
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: guise of stopping communism, right, which is more But that's

958
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 3: more honest.

959
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Speaker 1: This was about these monsters are playing games in the

960
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Speaker 1: Middle East, exactly, exactly, and great.

961
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Speaker 3: I'm happy that Israel's security and borders can expand, and

962
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Speaker 3: that we spent hundreds of billions of dollars and wasted

963
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Speaker 3: American lives or whatever.

964
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Speaker 7: So and sure, and actually and lift the sanctions and

965
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Speaker 7: I'm rooting for Shara now, I'm rooting for it and.

966
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Speaker 3: Just wants stability. These people deserve peace at this point.

967
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Speaker 3: But I mean, unfortunately, and it was probably they're going

968
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Speaker 3: to keep bombing them. Yeah, but by the way, the

969
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Speaker 3: Christian population in there, you know, it's it's going to

970
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Speaker 3: be dark.

971
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Speaker 1: I feel for them, I really do. All right, thank you.

972
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Speaker 1: Ryan does a great show. Enjoyed it. I'll be at

973
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Speaker 1: the un will Chris.

974
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Speaker 3: Chris will be in for Ryan tomorrow. I will be

975
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Speaker 3: out for the rest of the week, but Ryan will

976
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Speaker 3: be in for me on Thursday. I know you guys

977
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Speaker 3: have some interesting guests and all of that lined up.

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Speaker 3: We will see you all later. Oh, and stay tuned

979
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Speaker 3: for my Tucker Carlson interview for Premium sbscribers, people, Fritish,