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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Hambord's Territory podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is episode three five three. My name is Brad

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Speaker 1: Roland and I'm joined on this Sunday evening edition of

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Speaker 1: the podcast my good friend Scott Coleman, and I'll wait

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Speaker 1: as long as I possibly can talk about college basketball. Scott,

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Speaker 1: how are you on the Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Evening Hello, Brad. I'm doing great because baseball is back

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Speaker 2: in our lives and the Braves had a good weekend

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Speaker 2: all things considered. We will of course talk about those

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Speaker 2: games on the show and some other news and notes

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Speaker 2: that have popped up. But hey, a two in one

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Speaker 2: weekend to start the year. Of course, the Braves lost

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Speaker 2: on Sunday because we always record on Sundays, and goodness

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Speaker 2: we never get wins on Sundays. But it's just one

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Speaker 2: of those things. At this point, I guess will have

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Speaker 2: to live with it. But overall, a lot of good

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Speaker 2: and maybe a little bit of bad this weekend, and

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Speaker 2: we're of course going to dig into all of it.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely mostly good. A successful weekend for the Braves, a

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Speaker 1: series victory if anybody missed it. By the way, Scott

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Speaker 1: and I did a breakdown of the opener on Friday night.

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Speaker 1: That is still relevant to listen to right now, so

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Speaker 1: we will talk to that game anymore today. Probably maybe

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Speaker 1: included some big picture stuff, but that is in the

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Speaker 1: podcast feed right now. We are also Hamer Territory. We

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Speaker 1: are part of the Foul Territory podcast network. We cover

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Speaker 1: the Braves all year round, including right now and Scott.

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Speaker 1: As we dive into the opening weekend series, we're going

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Speaker 1: Oftentimes we might dive into the Sunday game first. It's

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Speaker 1: the most recent thing that happened, but not today because

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Speaker 1: Saturday's game was crazy enough to where I don't know

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Speaker 1: about you. I think I got like seven people saying

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Speaker 1: Saturday night podcasts because the Braves often play Sunday afternoons,

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Speaker 1: so it's like kind of a you know, the timeline

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Speaker 1: in a positive direction for the Braves. So I know

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Speaker 1: we were in different spots, But what was your reaction

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Speaker 2: My big takeaway was you could probably count on one

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Speaker 2: hand the entire number of games that we had like

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Speaker 2: Saturday nights last season. Like we know, the Braves could

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Speaker 2: not win a close game. Comeback wins we're few and

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Speaker 2: far between. Braves team that basically didn't score for eight

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Speaker 2: a whole lot in two. Comeback wins like that really

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Speaker 1: So that's a number one encouraging I like, you know,

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Speaker 2: again we've talked about Tom Smith that folks missed those episodes.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely so history being made, a fun one for the fans.

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Speaker 2: So I thought it'd be worthwhile to have a conversation

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Speaker 2: the Braves have to figure out how to better challenge. Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to turn this into a dump on

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Speaker 2: you can't do it. And then Ronald's was egregious. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't even close. It was a strike. Everyone knew it

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Speaker 2: Braves won the game, but what if they burn those

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Speaker 2: I almost wonder if it's gonna become more of a

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Speaker 2: But they have to get better at abs. They have

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Speaker 2: been bad at challenging so far in the year, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this isn't not to be a half hour topic,

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: With that said, you know, I guess if you are

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Speaker 1: And I would imagine some teams are going to be like,

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Speaker 1: We're not challenging a single thing unless it's a giant

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Speaker 1: And look, I'm not an expert on this, but if

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you and then we'll wrap up

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Speaker 2: think it needs improvement? Did you hate it? Did you

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Speaker 1: No? I don't hate it at all.

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Speaker 1: I you know, we've joked forever about robot umps, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in on, if anything, more challenges, but in

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Speaker 2: It's interesting you made the point. So I'm actually pretty

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Speaker 2: game called strike three, immedia challeng pitch was nowhere close.

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Speaker 2: The very next pitch was called strike three, was challenged again,

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Speaker 2: nowhere close. That's what we need to get rid of

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Speaker 2: the most egregious calls. And there were two runners on base,

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Speaker 2: to get rid of, the game changing, outcome changing bad

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Speaker 2: calls and not zero zero game. In the first inning,

432
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Speaker 2: Acuna is up one to OHO in the count and

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Speaker 2: once of course he wants to be up two OHO

434
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Speaker 2: in the count and missing a challenge with nobody on base, like,

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Speaker 2: that's that's not what we need.

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Speaker 1: I agree, And that reminds me that people were making

437
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Speaker 1: people like could anybody possibly be worse than ce B Buckner?

438
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Speaker 1: And that, of course led to people my age, That

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Speaker 1: led to a lot of ic Eric greg gifts on

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Speaker 1: oh twere triggering. Even now it's been thirty years almost

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Speaker 1: I'm still triggered. But yeah, Abs, we are pro It

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Speaker 1: seems like on this podcast. I don't actual don't actually

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Speaker 1: don't know if Shawn Steven agree. I think Stephen agrees.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure about Shawn Sean Sewan's old school. You know,

445
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Speaker 1: I love Sean. I'm gonna be nice to Sean for

446
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Speaker 1: at least a few days based on college basketball results today.

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Speaker 1: But okay, Scott, let's move on in a second talk

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Speaker 1: about Sunday's game, which was honestly just one of those

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Speaker 1: Scott let us talk about the game earlier today as

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Speaker 1: a record of this podcast on Sunday. As much fun

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Speaker 1: as Friday was, as much drama and energy and just

473
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Speaker 1: joy as Saturday brought, Sunday was one of those games

474
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Speaker 1: that's kind of frustrating. You already made a joke about

475
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Speaker 1: losing on Sundays every week, hopeing that won't continue this

476
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Speaker 1: season like it did last season for our podcast. But

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Speaker 1: in addition to it being a you know, relatively competitive,

478
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Speaker 1: close fought loss, it was one of those where just

479
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Speaker 1: nothing was falling in for the Braves. They were smacking

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Speaker 1: the ball of the entire game. The Royals Will were not,

481
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Speaker 1: and the Braves still lost. And those people that like

482
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Speaker 1: value process like we do, it's like it really each

483
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Speaker 1: of you when it's like the Braves were the better

484
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: team it seemed like on Sunday and it didn't matter.

485
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Speaker 1: They just kind of had the breaksgo against them.

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Speaker 2: It really did. And thankfully you win the first two

487
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Speaker 2: games in the series, and you always want to be greedy,

488
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 2: you always want to go for the sweep. But it

489
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 2: was just one of those games. And if you look

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Speaker 2: at expected batting average, the Royals expected batting average on

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Speaker 2: Sunday was one fifty nine. The Braves, on the other hand,

492
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Speaker 2: were three oh six. And it's funny when I watch games,

493
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Speaker 2: my go to is, oh, that's out. Whenever a ball

494
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Speaker 2: gets hit, well like it just oh, that's out. And

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Speaker 2: I said that like three times on Sunday, and somehow

496
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Speaker 2: none of them went out. I don't know how Acunya's

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Speaker 2: ball didn't leave. I don't know how Michael Harris's ball

498
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Speaker 2: didn't leave. And I thought that Matt Olsen got one

499
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Speaker 2: too when he golfed it down the right into the

500
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Speaker 2: right center field gap. Just one of those days, annoying, frustrating.

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Speaker 2: Really didn't have a whole lot of action on the

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Speaker 2: base pass either. I guess credit to Seth Lugo, who

503
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Speaker 2: was just pounding the homeplate zone, but also gave up

504
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 2: a lot of hard contact and just the Braves just

505
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Speaker 2: were on the wrong side of the batted ball luck.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday, through the first seven innings, the Braves had

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Speaker 1: hit the five hardest balls of the game. They were

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Speaker 1: all over one hundred and five miles an hour, so

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Speaker 1: like five genuine rockets, including two that you just mentioned

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Speaker 1: in the Harris and Acunya shots that were you know,

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Speaker 1: those were by the data, by the eye test, by

512
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Speaker 1: all of it, like those were home runs more often

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Speaker 1: than not, not every single time, I guess, but more

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Speaker 1: often than not. Anyway, five hardes hit balls of the

515
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Speaker 1: game were all from the Braves through seven innings, and

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Speaker 1: all five of them became outs, not even doubles, they

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Speaker 1: became outs, which is like doubly brutal. Finally, Drake Balwin

518
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Speaker 1: broke that shriek with it hit with the home run

519
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Speaker 1: that he hit in the eighth, but still only one

520
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Speaker 1: of the six hardest hit balls in the game was

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Speaker 1: a run or not even not an out for the Braves,

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Speaker 1: and they just, you know, it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Bring back the juice balls, I guess, because I couldn't

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Speaker 1: believe I'm with you. The Akunya and Harris Ones were

525
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Speaker 1: both like, whoa, but that didn't go out of the ballpark,

526
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Speaker 1: Like what are we even doing here? And maybe you

527
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Speaker 1: get those one of those every once in a while.

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Speaker 1: I know what Wise gave a quote about the wind.

529
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Speaker 1: He was like, maybe it was the wind or something

530
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Speaker 1: like it. Maybe maybe it was the balls that day.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it was the wind. You know, I'm not like,

532
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Speaker 1: it's not not a conspiracy. Sometimes things go against you,

533
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Speaker 1: and that's one of things that's beautiful about baseball, and

534
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Speaker 1: also one of the things that's maddening about it is

535
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Speaker 1: that there's so many games and sometimes the better team loses. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's just that's today is one of those things.

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Speaker 1: Honestly to me, Like I don't mean to like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to downplay the Royals, like they won the game.

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Speaker 1: Good on them, they executed better than the Braids did,

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to say, but it just was, it

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Speaker 1: was so obvious to me the Braids were were quote

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Speaker 1: unquote running bad today, and it was like that was

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Speaker 1: the theme of the day. It just kind of had

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Speaker 1: to be for me.

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Speaker 2: And I thought Grant Holmes was okay over five innings,

546
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Speaker 2: only gave up three hits and two walks, did allow

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Speaker 2: three runs to score, struck out four, got ten swings

548
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Speaker 2: and misses. I thought the slider was good. He did

549
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Speaker 2: leave his fastball in the zone a little too much.

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Speaker 2: I think it was the first run of the game.

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Speaker 2: I think Grant would probably tell you he would want

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Speaker 2: it back runners on the corners against Bobby Witt Junior,

553
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Speaker 2: and he went ahead one two. But instead of I mean,

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Speaker 2: if it was me, and I'm not a big leaguer,

555
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: but if it was me, I'm throwing that nasty slider

556
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Speaker 2: off the plate at least twice, if not three times,

557
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Speaker 2: and seeing if Wit will go fishing. Instead, he threw

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Speaker 2: I think a fastball that missed, and then he threw

559
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Speaker 2: a belt high right down the middle fastball that Wit

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Speaker 2: line the other way, and I think that scored the

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Speaker 2: first run of the game. And then Kansas City tacked

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Speaker 2: on a few more. Again, nothing overly concerning. I thought

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Speaker 2: Holmes was fine. He gave the team a chance to win.

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Speaker 2: And you know, if you have a little better luck

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Speaker 2: on batted balls, maybe you do score more than just

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Speaker 2: the one run. But it was overall, it was just

567
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Speaker 2: one of those days and not a disaster by any means,

568
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Speaker 2: but also a little bit of a bummer coming off

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Speaker 2: of two really nice wins to open the year.

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Speaker 1: Agree, Holes was fine, He wasn't great, He wasn't terrible.

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Speaker 1: People I know, including me, are going to be monitoring.

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Speaker 1: Grant had some really bad numbers the second time through

573
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Speaker 1: the order last season, like an era of almost seven

574
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Speaker 1: and today I didn't want to see that. He did

575
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Speaker 1: allow two runs out of the three that he allowed

576
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Speaker 1: the second time through the order, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: he was getting teed off on, So that's not the

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00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 1: worst thing. You're right that that pitch to Wit was

579
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: not a good pitch. That's I can't imagine he wanted

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Speaker 1: to have that be where it was, but especially against

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Speaker 1: that player, their best player and all that stuff. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I thought the takeaway was that he was okay, And

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Speaker 1: you know what, let's avoid the half hour pitching conversation.

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Speaker 1: But if grand Holmes is okay, the Braves are going

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Speaker 1: to be okay. Like you know what I mean, I

586
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Speaker 1: don't think that there's always a debate about like what

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Speaker 1: grand Holmes is. I think it's worth saying again, like

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Speaker 1: he was pretty decent last year, He's not so spectacular pitcher,

589
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Speaker 1: but he can he can when you he can win

590
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: your baseball games. He can get you through six innings,

591
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: like he can do some stuff that's valuable to you. Alex.

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Speaker 1: Alex keeps saying that Holmes would have been the guy

593
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Speaker 1: that went to the bullpen if they signed somebody or

594
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Speaker 1: trading for somebody. So obviously he's like he was the

595
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Speaker 1: fringy guy like Lopezz ahead of him by all accounts.

596
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Speaker 1: But Holmes is okay, and he was okay. That's kind

597
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Speaker 1: of where I was. The guy by the way, the guy,

598
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Speaker 1: the guy came in after him was was better than okay,

599
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Speaker 1: which is it's kind of stark to me that the

600
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: guy came in after it seems to be better than him.

601
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Speaker 1: But uh, you know, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I like grand Holmes. When Grand Holmes

603
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Speaker 2: starts a game, I feel pretty good that the Braves

604
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Speaker 2: at least have a decent chance to win the game

605
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Speaker 2: that night. If you said, Scott, what are your ten

606
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Speaker 2: biggest concerns with this Braves team, I don't think Grand

607
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Speaker 2: Holmes would even come into my mind.

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Speaker 1: And I agree.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully a little more swing and miss a little a

610
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Speaker 2: few more strikeouts, I think, especially with that slider, he's

611
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Speaker 2: capable of doing that. And then you know, it was nice.

612
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: I guess if you're looking for a positive or a

613
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Speaker 2: silver lining. On Sunday, Grand Holmes starts and then Diddy

614
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Speaker 2: or Fuentez covered the final four innings of the game,

615
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: and one that really saves your bullpen. You don't have

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Speaker 2: to use anybody other than Fontes. And I don't know

617
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Speaker 2: about you, man, I was really impressed by Didtier four innings,

618
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: only gave up one run, two hits, one walk, four strikeouts,

619
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Speaker 2: and was really attacking and commanding the zone and was

620
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Speaker 2: really making hitters work for it. So I know, of course,

621
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Speaker 2: Didier was like the story of spring training, and I

622
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Speaker 2: thought today, for his first appearance of the regular season,

623
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Speaker 2: really impressive. And I'm guessing the Braves leave Didier in

624
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Speaker 2: the bullpen for a little while, but I think eventually

625
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Speaker 2: he's going to force his way to the rotation. Yeah.

626
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Speaker 1: I didn't think so too. And you know, as good

627
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Speaker 1: as he was in the spring, as encouraged and excited

628
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Speaker 1: is the word I would use about him as I

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Speaker 1: was in the spring, It's different when you're actually in

630
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Speaker 1: a major league game, and the fact that he came

631
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Speaker 1: in and the stuff looked great. He you know, navigated

632
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Speaker 1: four innings and it wasn't a blowout like sometimes you

633
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Speaker 1: bring in a guy like that in that spot and

634
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: or reliever throws four innings, it's like, oh, because they're

635
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Speaker 1: down ten to one. But no, they were in the

636
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Speaker 1: game the entire way, so it was like it was

637
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Speaker 1: super low leverage and he pitched really well. I give

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Speaker 1: up one run, that's I mean, struck out four and

639
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: looked really crisp.

640
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Speaker 3: With me.

641
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: The stuff is everyone knows is really good. He was

642
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Speaker 1: when he was sitting like ninety seven, like just bringing

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Speaker 1: the heat and looking great. So right, I mean, it's

644
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Speaker 1: one it's one outing. But I I almost would take

645
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Speaker 1: away more from that than anything in the spring because

646
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: he was facing major leaguers and it was at a

647
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: major league game, so that's where I was. I liked

648
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: seeing that, and I don't blame anybody for jumping to

649
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: all right, once's it gonna start, because especially give the

650
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: state of the rotation, and we'll talk about that more

651
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Speaker 1: in a second when we previews the next couple of days.

652
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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of uncertainty after these first three.

653
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean as much as you and I just said,

654
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: we're okay with Grant Holmes. The three guys were okay

655
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: with have already pitched. Yes, Uh so we'll see how

656
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: the next couple days ago and maybe didtier if things

657
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: don't go well, and look, we hope they go well,

658
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: like I hope Brice Elder throws great on Monday. It'd

659
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: be great. If they don't go well, it's gonna give

660
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: even louder towards studio front, says like immediately, So the

661
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: brains have to know that I'm sure and I think

662
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: that this is clearly the plan, and I liked it.

663
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: They get that they let him keep going, Like treating

664
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: him as a pure reliever would have been silly, but

665
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: having it for a four innings like has triple benefit

666
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: like for him, for the team, for the bullpen, all

667
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: these things, and in a loss like that was a

668
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: good way to end the game. In some ways, it's like, oh,

669
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of an upswing. Despite the negative.

670
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: Result, you can absolutely learn things as a young pitcher

671
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: pitching out of the bullpen. And I mean Max Freed

672
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: talked openly about it years ago that hey, when he

673
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: came up, he wasn't really sure how to go through

674
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,959
Speaker 2: a lineup multiple times, and sitting out in the bullpen

675
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: for a couple of months and pitching in relief really

676
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: did him a lot of good. Hopefully it's the same

677
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: case with Dittier. Clearly a very talented kid, and one note,

678
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: I know people were like, well, why isn't he in

679
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: the rotation. My biggest thing is I think they are

680
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: trying to limit his innings early in the year. You

681
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: probably don't necessarily want Dittier to make thirty big league

682
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: starts and approach two hundred innings, hopefully with a playoff

683
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: run attached on that. So I get it, but again

684
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: I give it a few weeks. I really do think

685
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: Diddier is probably going to be on the Spencer Strider

686
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: timeline from a few years ago, in the bullpen for

687
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: a while, but eventually you'll find himself in the rotation.

688
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: I agree it could be suited rather than later. But

689
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: I think their plan anyway seems to be ticket slow,

690
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: keep your endings down, get some experience and learn on

691
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: the job, so to speak. And I'm okay with that,

692
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: and he looked really good today. From here, I do

693
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Speaker 1: want to take one more quick break you have from

694
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Speaker 1: more partners, and then we'll get to some other observations

695
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: from the rest of the weekend and a brief look

696
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Speaker 1: at the week ahead, because the Braves have what's what

697
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: ten more games in ten days, like the action, that's

698
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: not gonna slow down anytime soon. I promise you that.

699
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Speaker 1: So in a second, we'll dive back in after a

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Speaker 1: word from our partners. Okay, Scott Brobably speaking, nothing crazy here.

701
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: We thought this a little bit on Friday, but I

702
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: thought it was encouraging on the whole from a trio

703
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: of guys who the Braves kind of need to be

704
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: good this year. And that trio is Michael Harris, Ozzy

705
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: All and Austin Riley. I don't really had an o

706
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: for to day, but look good before that. Harris. I

707
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 1: know I called my shot a little on Friday with him.

708
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: He looks great, man, I don't want to jixit. I

709
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: like what I've seen for Michael quite a bit. And

710
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: then Ozzie looks like I won't say full on prime Ozzie,

711
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: but some good science, good plate appearances, no real takeaway.

712
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that out loud, like I'm

713
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: trying to go like, you know, it's funny. The two

714
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: guys who have kind of struggled so far are Acuney

715
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: and Olsen, who I just don't worry about in any way,

716
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: shape or form. So when that happens, that generally means

717
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: that everybody else has been like kind of doing their job.

718
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: And those three guys are included.

719
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Speaker 2: In that really encouraging first series of the year from Harris,

720
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: all these Riley, you have to have good seasons or

721
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: at least somewhat bounce back seasons from those three. I mean, obviously,

722
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Speaker 2: Michael Harris had the home run on opening Day, so

723
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: did Ozzie Alby. So yeah, like, overall, good series, I

724
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Speaker 2: think you take it. I think it's baby steps at

725
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: this point. I think Mike has done a pretty good

726
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: job too of working a little bit deeper into accounts

727
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: and not just giving away at bats, which was something

728
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: he was doing every night last year. But yeah, you know,

729
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: I will say it was interesting. The one kind of

730
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: lineup or roster position change that took place on Sunday

731
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Speaker 2: was Jorge Mateo was a shortstop. I don't know, man,

732
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: I understand why Walt Weiss wanted to get Mateo. A

733
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: couple of reps. Get him out there. It's early in

734
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: the year, it's March or twenty ninth, but Mateo is

735
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: pretty underwhelming. Did not look very confident at the plate,

736
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Speaker 2: made a weird gaff play in the shortstop hole where

737
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: he should have just ate the ball and instead like

738
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: kind of threw it and it could have led to

739
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Speaker 2: a run. Quite honestly, thankfully, I don't think it did

740
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 2: that enitting or maybe the runner would have scored anyway,

741
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 2: But regardless, I think I got enough of Jorge Mateo

742
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Speaker 2: as the starting shortstop on Sunday and I'm ready for

743
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 2: Mauricio Dubon to be back out there.

744
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was not surprising, but also like if that

745
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: was game like eight and he hadn't played yet, I

746
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 1: would have been like, Okay, get him in there. It's fine.

747
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: Game three. It was a day game. Perhaps that's why

748
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: it's early in the year, but yeah, I didn't love that.

749
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: I also, I also cannot be the guy who criticizes

750
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: that when I've always said that they probably should use

751
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: their bench more now right now, it's so early in

752
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: the season. It's like hard to say that with straight face.

753
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, I grew with your takeaway. It didn't look great.

754
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: But Dubond isn't supposed to wasn't I shouldn't say, isn't

755
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: was it supposed to be playing? Trust for every day

756
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: right now? He is because he has to. But if

757
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: he's back in there on Monday, I'll FILLI fine, that

758
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: would be what I would say. Maybe Dumon woke up

759
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: with like a headache or something. I don't know.

760
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, but I get it. It's early. Yeah, we

761
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 2: don't want to talk out both sides of our mouths.

762
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: We do want to see this team rest. It's players more,

763
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,959
Speaker 2: not have bailiers go out there for every single inning

764
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: of every single game. But yeah, let's get Mauricio back

765
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: in there on Monday night.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely a little bit of news that happened over the weekend,

767
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: not hugely groundbreaking, but notable. On the two guys in

768
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: the position player side who are currently injured, Sean Murphy

769
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: is apparently able to do baseball activities already, and it

770
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: seems to be quite a bit nearing his rehab assignment.

771
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: So that's a good sign. Means he's kind of on track.

772
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: They don't generally give you timeline for like here's what

773
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: he'll play in a major League game, But it seems

774
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: like he'll be in the minors like pretty soon and

775
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: be on track. That's good. Hassan Kim is behind Murphy.

776
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: Hard to tell how much behind. He's taking dry swings.

777
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: It seems like he hasn't faced pitching yet. But I

778
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: would say for me, it's like just avoid setbacks with

779
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: those guys Like I kind of like, okay, check the

780
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: box for me, But checking the box is better than

781
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: not checking the box. And I do think that some

782
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: of the lineup stuff that we have talked about at

783
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: nauseum the last couple weeks would be eased if they

784
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Speaker 1: even had Sean Murphy. As much as he's not super

785
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: popular in some corners of braized internet, he's a lot

786
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: better at baseball than some guys that they have available

787
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: to them right now.

788
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: So oh absolutely. And defensively, I mean, even if you

789
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: don't believe in Sean Murphy the hitter, defensively, there's no

790
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: denying that Murphy is one of the best defensive catchers

791
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 2: in the game. It'll also to d H Baldwin more

792
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: and keep him fresh, And I mean shouts to Drake Baldwin.

793
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 2: As we're talking about players who had a good weekend.

794
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: Oh man, he is so good. Drake Baldwin is going

795
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 2: to be an annual All Star, maybe even like MVP

796
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: vote received, vote getter, Like he's not going to be

797
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: an MVP of the National League, I don't think, but

798
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 2: Baldwin is so impressive. Wanted to give him a shout out.

799
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 2: But yeah, encouraging sounds like maybe a week away from

800
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Speaker 2: Murphy beginning his rehab assignment, and then he has about

801
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: three weeks to go through that before the Braves have

802
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: to make a decision. And then with Kim, especially just

803
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: with that hand, as he really rams up his batting

804
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 2: and swinging against live pitching, you just have to hope

805
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: that everything is going to hold together in that surgically

806
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: repaired finger that he has. But I don't know, Maybe

807
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: seems to me like early May is probably still a

808
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: fair enough timeline for Kim. Maybe mid May at this point,

809
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: but we'll see.

810
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't even want to guess, But I

811
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Speaker 1: seem like they were at least on track. I'm sticking

812
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: to that. That's what I'll glom onto for now. And

813
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: as we get more information, like when they announced Smurphy's

814
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: rehab assignment, that's the next step for him and TVD

815
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: on all that stuff. Before we go out of here,

816
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: let's look ahead at the week to come. The Braves

817
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: now play three games against the well, I can't remember

818
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: what you said. Didn't you use like like a combo

819
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: phrase for their.

820
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah the oak Flemento Vegas Athletics, because uh.

821
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're still playing. If people don't know this,

822
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: they're still playing in Sacramento this year. They don't really

823
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: have a city like you know, every every other team

824
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: has a like Atlanta Braves like they're it's they're kind

825
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: of they're not even calumb the Sacramento A's like they're

826
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: just they're just the a's they have at me playing

827
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: in Sacramento. It's this very odd situation at the game.

828
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: Is it the games in Atlanta, So that's easier to digest.

829
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Speaker 1: But that's just coming in to town starting Monday. They

830
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: have not won a game yet. They just went on

831
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: three against Toronto. Toronto's good, so that's not like a

832
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: death sentence. And there are some believers in the A's.

833
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: I've saw some people pick up the basic make the playoffs,

834
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: so they're this is not your older brother's as they're

835
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: not a disaster like they're they're they have talent, They're

836
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: not I don't they don't think they're like the Yankees

837
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: or anything, but they are not the White Sox. That's

838
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: what's what I would say about the A's. They're they're

839
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: pretty competitive. I think I alluded to this earlier, but

840
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: we are now in the part of the pitching rotation

841
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: that is the real uncertainty. Bryce Elder is going to

842
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: go on Monday against I believe it's is it Aaron Savali?

843
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: How do you say his name?

844
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: I never know? Is that right? I think it is

845
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 2: sounds right. Yeah, we'll get Let's ask Sean our resident name.

846
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: Let's not let's not ask Sean to pronounce anything on

847
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: the podcast. Uh So that's look, we've talked about Bryce endlessly.

848
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: We'll see what he looks like. I don't want to

849
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: cast dispersions. He has been reliable as far as being available.

850
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: That's a key to Bryce Elder is appeal, I think,

851
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: and honestly, I think you can get out the A's.

852
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: I worry more about Bryce Older when he faces good teams.

853
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: To be honest, I always have. He's always been able

854
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: to be decent against lower level teams. So as okay,

855
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: and then Tuesday is a TBD in the rotation as

856
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: of right now. I just checked this again one more

857
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: time as we're talking. Sorry, by the way, Elder, isn't it.

858
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: I think Elder's face of Jacob Lopez. I think Sabali

859
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: is now going on Tuesday. They changed that today as

860
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: of as of eight fifty two pm Eastern time, regardless,

861
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: and Jacob Loves is a left hander, so that'll be

862
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: that's important for lineup deployment on Monday. But Tuesdays is

863
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: a TVD. There's only so many options it could be.

864
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: So I did think in the back of my mind.

865
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you had this thought, So tell

866
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: me if you didn't. I thought going into today, if

867
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: they didn't need to use Diddy or Fuenttes, that maybe

868
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: they would start him in the fifth game and kind

869
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: of shock everybody. But he's not going to be available

870
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. He through four innings today, so that's that's

871
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: no longer available. So it comes down to uh Jose Suarez.

872
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: It's the only guy on the forty man that they

873
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: could not forty man active roster, I should say, And

874
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: then they could go rogue and go with like Martine

875
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: Perez or je Richie question Mark. I mean, my guess

876
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: is gonna be Suarez. I think it's notable that they

877
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 1: haven't announced him yet. I don't know why they haven't.

878
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it means anything. It may not, but

879
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: they had not announced that even though he's like the

880
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: obvious guy on the roster, that they would be so

881
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: like what you will.

882
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 2: My guess will be Jose Suarez and a prayer and

883
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 2: just I agree, see how it goes. I did think

884
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 2: there was a chance that Diddy or was gonna start

885
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 2: on Tuesday, but because they had him cover the entirety

886
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: of kind of the back half of today's game, I

887
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 2: just probably not.

888
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, if if he had thrown, if you had

889
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: thrown like an ending in a third once this weekend,

890
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: it'd be like, all right, that's just throw a he

891
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: can he could pitch on two. I'm not saying it

892
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: was gonna happen, but once you like, I gotta go four,

893
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: all right, crossm off for this time, this time, for

894
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: of the rotation, he's not available.

895
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: So probably Jose Swarrez. I mean, if I'm Walt Weiss,

896
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you go inning by inning and see

897
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: how it goes, but probably aim hope for three, four,

898
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: five innings if all is going well with Swarez, and

899
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: then you evaluate. If you're ahead, obviously you deploy your

900
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: big dogs out of the bullpen. If you're losing by

901
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: seven runs, then somebody's gonna eat those innings and get

902
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 2: their work in. But yeah, this is this is gonna

903
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: be the scary part of Atlanta Braves games. When Chris Sale,

904
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: Ronaldo Lopez, and Grant Holmes start, I think the Braves

905
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: have a real chance every single time. But as long

906
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 2: as you don't have Spencer Strider, and you don't have

907
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: Spencer Schwallenbach, and you don't have Hurston Waltrip, and you

908
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: don't have Dittier in the rotation, you don't have Jr.

909
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: Richie in the rotation, these fourth and fifth starter spots

910
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: are going to be very scary. And in my mind,

911
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: if you can just go fifty to fifty in these

912
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: games and kind of keep your head above water and

913
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,959
Speaker 2: not totally sink, I think you that every day long,

914
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: and hopefully in the next couple of weeks the rotation

915
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 2: gets to be in a better spot than right now.

916
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: Because this is I mean to be honest, this is

917
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: pretty scary that you're four days into the season and

918
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: presumably your next two starters are Bryce Elder, who has

919
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: a mid five's ERA over the last like two and

920
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: a half calendar years, and Jose Suarez, who's kind of

921
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: like a journeyman lefty at this point.

922
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking for something something to clube onto With Elder.

923
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: I didn't really find it, to be honest, Like he

924
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 1: even he has these are career splits, but like career

925
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: splits are worse at home than on the road, he's

926
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: pitching at home. H He's been a little bit he's

927
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: lived a little bit better in his career early in

928
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: the season, Like he has a sub for era in

929
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: March April May. So maybe that's something I don't know.

930
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm grasping. This could be an absolutely nothing whatsoever. I

931
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: do think that it might be idotab but I think

932
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: it's also born out if you look at a little

933
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 1: bit closer. But he has been a lot better against

934
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: not great offenses. See if that goes anywhere. But you're right,

935
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: I think the takeaway is I'm a little bit afraid

936
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: it's better that they're facing the A's than if they're

937
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: facing the Dodgers this week. Give them the rotation available.

938
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: But we will see. And then Chris Sale pitches on

939
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: a Wednesday, at least that's of right now. He has

940
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: been announced he's probable on Wednesday. That's a twelve to

941
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: fifteen PM Eastern Time aka nine to fifteen am baseball.

942
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 1: Where Scott Coleman is. Oh, Wednesday breakfast meeting or something.

943
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: I guess something.

944
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: I want to tell your boss if you have, if you

945
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: have a meeting that morning to watch Christill.

946
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for Chris Sale. It might be worth it,

947
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 2: you know, if it was somebody else, I don't know,

948
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: but yeah, the Businessman Special on Wednesday, because the Braves

949
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 2: will play that game, hopefully get a series win against

950
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: the Athletics. It's such what a weird I hope it

951
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 2: all works out. Yeah, the A's and then they go

952
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: west and they then travel all the way across country.

953
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 2: Do not have an off day, which is a little weird.

954
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: Play four games against the Diamondbacks and and then three

955
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: games against the Angels, so not you know, not a

956
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: daunting West coast trip by any means. I kind of

957
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 2: like getting them out of the way early in the year.

958
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 2: While guys are fresh. You know, the Diamondbacks are okay,

959
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: the Angels are a disaster. You know, hopefully you can

960
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: keep the winning going against those teams. But yes, I mean,

961
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: as we talked about a few weeks ago on the show,

962
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: the early season schedule, it's relatively friendly for the Braves,

963
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: and hopefully they're able to take advantage and keep winning series,

964
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: because especially with all these injuries, if you keep taking

965
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: two out of three, even if it's not sexy, you're

966
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: going to be in good shape at the end of

967
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: the year. If you can do this with any kind

968
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 2: of regularity. For sure.

969
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: Much you noted the scheduling thing there, because I already

970
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: saw somebody ask me today like, hey, why is the

971
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: Braves already playing a noon game in the first week

972
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: of the season, And it's because of what you said, Like,

973
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: if you don't have a day off, you have to

974
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: play in the afternoon to go to Arizona. You cannot

975
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: plan a night game and flat at Arizona. That's not

976
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: gonna work. So that's why. Unfortunately, it's the best Petchy

977
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: matchup of the series. It's sale against Lesaverino, who is

978
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: their number one starter, and it's a game at noon

979
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: and like I candidly won't be able to watch it

980
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: in real time. I will be at my office, so

981
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: I'll be watching it later on with it with a

982
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: lot of other people. But yeah, we'll see how that goes.

983
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: And the Braves will be favorite to win the series.

984
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: Will they win it? We'll see, and uh, I know

985
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: they are, in fact in the Betty market favored to

986
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: win the series. But help Steph Chris Sale on My

987
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: Mounain last game and then, uh, you already mentioned it,

988
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: but your your Arizona Diamond Max this weekend unfortunately for

989
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: you usually like you're the mayor of Phoenix when the

990
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 1: Braves come to town. I know you're just like holding

991
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: court with all the people that you know, these Braves

992
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: fans might be in town. It's like Scott's a celebrity.

993
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: It's Final four weekend. I don't know how much you're

994
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: gonna be over in Phoenix on the Final four weekend, but.

995
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel bad. I mean, a couple of people

996
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: reached out and shout out to you, guys and gals.

997
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: I've run into people at Chase Field too, and they're like,

998
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: are you Scott from the podcast.

999
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, yes, I am because it's full name

1000
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: for the podcast.

1001
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: That's right, And I actually hand out business cards and

1002
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 2: it says Scott for the podcast, and then the Hammer

1003
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: Territory logo is on the back. But you know, Thursday

1004
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: night Friday night games tough to get up there, at

1005
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: least for me. Saturday is the Final Four where Arizona

1006
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: and Michigan will play, so Brad and I are not

1007
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: on speaking terms this upcoming weekend, and then Sunday is Easter,

1008
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: so I mean, just it's a.

1009
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: Really tough time. Honestly, I feel I kind of felt

1010
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: bad for you because that's like the one time you

1011
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: can see the Braves easily, right, relatively easily, is when

1012
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: they go to Arizona, And it's like the worst possible

1013
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: weekend for them to be in Arizona, especially Arizona, Like yeah.

1014
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: Quite literally the worst weekend of the year for me.

1015
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: And if people this far you probably know. But Scott

1016
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: is a devoted Arizona Wildcat, so that's not really an

1017
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: option Final four weekends. So I'm looking forward to watching

1018
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: some baseball. I'll be at the Final Four in Indianapolis,

1019
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: so I will be watching on second screens and stadiums

1020
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 1: and all that fun stuff too, so we'll be piecing

1021
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: it together, but we will have full coverage always, and

1022
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: we'll have coverage before that. We'll have full coverage of

1023
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: the A series. I'm not sure what the podcast will

1024
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: be next, probably Tuesday if I weren't to guests, but

1025
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,880
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00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,880
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1042
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 1: add other than go blue.

1043
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 2: At the end of the podcast, Yeah, I was gonna say,

1044
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: bear down, everybody. A nation will be cheering for the

1045
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: Wildcats this upcoming weekend.

1046
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: It's honestly probably true. I can almost guarantee you the

1047
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: Neutrals will be on your side because that's just what happens,

1048
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: which is interesting.

1049
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: Okay, well we'll take it, everybody. I will sing the

1050
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 2: fight song now so you can practice it on your

1051
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 2: drive to work. We'll all sing it now. I will

1052
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 2: spare that.

1053
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 1: Time for today's podcast. Yes, we're running out of running

1054
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: out of time, and yeah I could. I could complete

1055
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: the Hamword territory sweep on Saturday. My team just beat

1056
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: Steven Steam and Shawn Steam in succession. I don't. If

1057
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: you listen to the show two weeks ago on Selection Sunday,

1058
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: you will note that I picked Arizona to win the

1059
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: national championship on this podcast, so you'll know how I

1060
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: feel about the game. Scott hopes I'm right. I hope

1061
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. We'll see anyway, enough of that the on

1062
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: the podcast. We'll probably do one more before the game,

1063
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: and I will try not to do this again. But

1064
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: please subscribe to the show. Follow Scott on Twitter if

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Speaker 1: better to follow than I am this time of year,

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Speaker 1: but I'm also at bt reld. You going to follow me,

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Speaker 1: and more importantly, the show as at hammerd Territory. Subscribe there,

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Speaker 1: follow us, Tell your friends sincerely, Tell your friends thank

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Speaker 1: you listening. As always, we'll have more to come this week.

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Speaker 1: Baseball's back room buddy. I'm having fun. Because having fun

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Speaker 1: it's here. Stay with Will teas and long. I will

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Speaker 1: see you all next time.