1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian. You've got to You've got to face up 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: to it. You got to fix the car in front 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: of you, and you can't get aggravated about it. Day 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: back right away, I got yeah, the car Doctor. I 5 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: brought the other one cabrio. Um. I looked up on 6 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: the Kelly Blueback Valley. It's a thirty's working right. Would 7 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: you pay for this? Okay, so you got what you 8 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: paid for. Welcome to the radio home of Ron Andanian 9 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the 10 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 11 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 12 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: the phone and call in. The garage doors are open, 13 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your call at eight 14 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: five five five six one, nine hundred and now stung Galveston. 15 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: By the time I get to Phoenix, she'll be rising 16 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: and which your tall line. It's still on the line. 17 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: The night have you web belt Southern night? Michael Ruy, 18 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: strong cowboy getting cards, A strong people I don't even know, 19 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: and awful's coming over the long running days be sixteen 20 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: shut in we off Hello, start your jen's. I'm Ronan 21 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: any in the car doctor. The phone numbers eight five 22 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: five always stop with the happy birthday already, cheez, who 23 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: told you, guys? Yeah, that's oh, that's right. You know, 24 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: I didn't want to mention it to anybody. Listen, you 25 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: ought to be glad if that God is allowing you 26 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: to see another birthday, so embrace it. You know. I 27 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: thought about it from that perspective, but I thought it 28 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: also said that God realizes that there's too many broken 29 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: cars down here, and he's got to keep me around 30 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: for a little while. Yet, now, isn't this the thirtieth 31 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: anniversary of your thirtieth birthday? Giver? Take this is actually 32 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: the thirty first anniversary of my thirtieth birthday. I'm really 33 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm like ancient today. Um. But as I like to 34 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: say you and as I tried to point out to 35 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: a young man on Facebook this morning, I've forgotten more 36 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: than you know. So like, uh, you know, dude, back 37 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: up the truck a little bit. That's a whole another story, um, 38 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: ron any of the card doctor, I'm sorry, let me 39 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: get back on Q here. The phone number is eight 40 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: five five five zero nine zero zero seven round the clock, 41 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: because if you call eight five five five zero nine 42 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: nine zero zero Motorhead Matt will call you back and 43 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: put you in the Q for the next live broadcast. 44 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: We are live on the radio network Saturday afternoons two 45 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: to four pm Eastern Time, and we go out on 46 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: the affiliates. 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Um I took black out this week 57 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: black two. I came in on Wednesday morning and said, 58 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: and I said, okay, So I pulled it out and 59 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: uh started up and I let it run for a 60 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: little bit and we went out for a cruise Wednesday 61 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: night and kind of annoyed everybody. And um, I found 62 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: out that a fifty s about pm second gear hard pull. 63 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: It's starting to break up, and I have a sword 64 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: of suspicion that the rev limitter, which is supposed to 65 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: be set much much higher, is acting up and creating 66 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: an issue. So I've got to get deeper into the 67 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: confine of an MSD distributor coming up this week, so 68 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: we'll look forward to that and another post up there 69 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: on Facebook is really the one I want to talk 70 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 1: about to you. Had a two thousand five Chrysler three 71 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: came into the shop, and I mean months ago. It 72 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: was like, you know, just get to it when you can, 73 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: and we've been very busy. It's been a very busy 74 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: first half of the year, and the last two months 75 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: I've finally been able to put my focus on it 76 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: and and get into it because the car has just 77 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: got a pile of problems and I think I might 78 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: have commented on some of them in previous shows. And 79 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: what's going on with this car? And the first is 80 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: that it won't shift out of first gear. It's it 81 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: has ABS warning lights on. It has multiple codes in 82 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: different areas, the predominant of which and the most of 83 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: which is the A B S problems. It's reporting problems 84 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: with the left gear sensor, the right rear A B 85 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: S sensor and it's reporting what appears to be a 86 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: generic five hundred series code for the A B S 87 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: controller and speed signal. Sometimes knowing too much hurts you. 88 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: Because I knew too much. The customer informed me that 89 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: the cars sat for two and a half almost three years. Well, 90 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: they think it only sat for six months. When I 91 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: look at some of the indicators and the amount of 92 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: rust and the way the rotors rusted up and just 93 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: general overall status of the car, I went, now, this 94 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: is like a two year sit. This car sat a 95 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: long time. And knowing that, excuse your judgment, I gotta 96 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: be honest, it makes you look in places that you 97 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: don't really need to look because it comes back to 98 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: what my college professor has always said, keep it simple, sir. 99 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: And while my case it was stupid, but I'm trying 100 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: to be polite, so you know, you can overthink the problem. 101 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: And what it really came back to was, look, you've 102 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: got an A B S system. You've got some sort 103 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: of a wheel speed signal or sensor coming out of 104 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: each corner. Wheel speed sensor is creating the signal, and 105 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: what's missing now, Chrysler, And this is where I think 106 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: Chrysler missed the point about keep it simple. Stupid went 107 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: to you used to be that an A B S 108 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: signal In a lot of cases, I wouldn't say all 109 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: the time it was a toothed ring. You ever look 110 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: at the top of a castle, the fort it's it's 111 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: it's like notch. You know that got a high and 112 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: the low and high and the low. It's a square top, right, 113 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: square wave top. That's what the scope pattern would look 114 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: like if you ever wave out certain things digital digital 115 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: signal on, digital signal off that type of thing, and 116 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: that toothed pattern would go up against an A C 117 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: voltage generator and it would generate an A C signal 118 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: would be like a pickup coil inside a distributor. Back 119 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: in the seventies and the eighties, G. M. H. E. 120 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: I and Ford and so forth come to mind. Chrysler said, now, 121 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, we've been doing it this way for so long, 122 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: and we've got a better way to do it. We're 123 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: gonna put a magnet on the end of the axle. 124 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna get away with the tooth ring, get away 125 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: from the tooth ring. We're gonna put a magnet there 126 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: and when the magnet passes over or under the censor, 127 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: and the north south end of the magnet pass and 128 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: the polarity changes. We're going to induce a voltage and 129 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: that's how we're gonna tell how fast the wheel's gone. Yeah, 130 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: because nothing will go wrong with that. I mean, what 131 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: could go wrong with that? Um let me tell you 132 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: what went wrong with that? So the car sat for 133 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: two years. That I tell you it sat a long time. 134 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: And that's what you'll see in the pictures if you 135 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: get out to the Facebook page. Ron and any in 136 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 1: the car. Doctor and I didn't see it the first 137 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: time through. I actually didn't see it until I got 138 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: the axle out of the car. I saw it on 139 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: the scope, but I didn't know what I was looking at. 140 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: And that's where I say, sometimes knowing too much can 141 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: can distract you. I just knew it wasn't right, and 142 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 1: I said, the axle's gotta come apart. The scope pattern 143 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: was jumping, had a nice voltage it It put out 144 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: specs sort of not really, uh, you know, it was 145 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: a minimal voltage pattern. We want to see three and 146 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: this is what we're dealing with. We want to see 147 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: three to eight tenths of a vault d C voltage 148 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: and we were seeing less than a three day just 149 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: maybe it hit the three tenths. It was just the minimum. 150 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: It was just like enough but not You're like, wow, 151 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: is it? You know? Could it be any? Lazier reminded 152 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: me of a relative I used to know, and but 153 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: he's not here anymore. And I said, you know, there's 154 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: just something here because I'm watching this signal, go, why 155 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: is it bouncing like that? I gotta pull the axle 156 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: out well, to take the axle out of the rear 157 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: corner of this two thousand five Chrysler three. You know, 158 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: they may have had a short of of of a 159 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: BS sensors and tone rings back in two thousand five, 160 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: they didn't have a shortage of nuts and bolts alright, 161 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: one to three, four or five there were six nuts 162 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: and bolts holding between the sway bar link. The lower 163 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: ball joined the upper cross member the lower cross member. 164 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy was nutting ball happy. He must 165 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: have thought the wheel was going to fall off. I'm 166 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: not really quite sure why he did it, but everything 167 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: is rusty and gnarly and cobwebs and spiders, and it 168 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: was like working on any monster's car, and you just 169 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: sit there and you say, why why does it have 170 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: to be so complicated? And you get the knuckle out 171 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: or you get the you get the knuckle off, and 172 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: the steel bolts going that hold the brake caliper on 173 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: going into the aluminum knuckle. You're trying to walk them 174 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: out and not gal anything, and you're tearing the aluminum 175 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: out of the knuckle and you're like, Okay, that's gonna 176 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: get a hilly coiler a time circ going back in 177 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: because you're creating work. That's maybe that's what Chrysler's idea was. 178 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: They wanted to you know, they're they're just trying to 179 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: create things for them to do so they can justify 180 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: their existence. You get the axle out of the car 181 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: and you lay it on the ground and you look 182 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: at it and you don't see it, and it's it's 183 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: it's really rusty on the end. But you know you're 184 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: looking for something because you're a mechanic and you're you're 185 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: trying to get into something simple. You know it's got 186 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: to be something stareing me in the face. And sure enough, 187 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: you look at it and the video I put up 188 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: on Facebook, you'll see it pretty clear. Because I kind 189 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: of cleared some of the rust away. But when I 190 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: pulled it out, it was really masked over because you 191 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: couldn't see it. The magnet had cracked. There was a 192 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: crack clean through the magnet. What happened? Remember remember seventh 193 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: grade science class? What happens when you cracked the magnet? 194 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: You now created two magnets, right? It was you. You 195 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: have two different poles and two different polarities. Everything changes. 196 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: And that's why that's why the scope pattern was so 197 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: cock eyed, because I kept seeing I was seeing two 198 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: triggers from two separate and it was just it was 199 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: just giving me a pattern that bounced all over. Creation 200 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: put a new axle in the car, assembled, it, got 201 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: rid of the cobwebs, took the car around the block, 202 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: and I'm happy to report that the car finally upshifted. 203 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: The transmission dogged me off and on for the better 204 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: part of three weeks, but I just kept saying, there's 205 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: got to be something simple here. I'm missing, something so obvious. 206 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: What am I missing? And the point of the story becomes, 207 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, I just don't overthink it. I I was 208 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: reminded of that once again this week. Never overthink the problem, 209 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: but always look for something basic and expect the unexpected. 210 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen him. Uh well, I've 211 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: never seen a magnet do that. But I don't think 212 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: I've ever seen a car rust like that and still 213 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: want to be driven, I guess is the point, because 214 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: most people would scrap the car. There's a there's an 215 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: emotional attachment to this vehicle, and I understand that, and 216 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: I made a promise that I would get to the 217 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: bottom of it, and I did so. Um, but anyway, 218 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: that's the that's the story. Get out to the Facebook page, 219 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: run on any of the car doctor. You can look 220 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: at the video. Um, it probably explains that maybe a 221 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: little bit more than I did, a little simpler than 222 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: I did. I wanted to try and get into a 223 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: little bit of depth here, but you know, it spurs 224 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: another part of the conversation, and I want to pull 225 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: over real quick in a minute, but it spurs another 226 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: part of the conversation that here's technology, right. We were 227 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: doing this with it with an a C signal generator 228 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: and a tooth ring to create signal and it worked 229 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: for years and years and years, and we went to 230 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: a magnet because a magnet will never break it broke. 231 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: And my point is what we've got to realize that 232 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: every time, every time they change something in a car 233 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: and we go to it and say, oh, isn't this great? 234 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: This is the next best thing, remember these words when 235 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna break and who's gonna fix it? And that's 236 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: the key to understanding and have a relationship with your car, 237 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: because I don't care what it is, sooner or later 238 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna come see me. I'm runing ady in the 239 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: car Doctor five zero nine zero zero way back right 240 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: after this. Hey, welcome back the car doctorate five five 241 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero Car Doctor show dot com 242 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: for more information and fun facts. Let's go talk to 243 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: bomb Phillisburg, New Jersey, longtime listener Mr Schumacher. How the 244 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: heck are you? Asked? How are you? Sir? Good afternood 245 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: afternoon and run. I'm finally glad to be able to 246 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: talk to my Uh. Hearing kind of went to south 247 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: and I finally got hearing age and hearing age couples 248 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: through the iPhone, and I could hear you loud and clearer. 249 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: That's not that's not from that performance loud exhaust on 250 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: that Volkswagon. You used to drive it. Yeah, it is. 251 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing. You know, when you're hearing goes 252 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: and you can't hear sounds, it's kind of typical. It's 253 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: a troubleshoot. Oh yeah, well it's you know, it's it's 254 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: it's handy though if you're married. Um, yeah, I don't 255 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: want to point that out to lead. There's a lot 256 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: of a lot of wise in the audience, so don't 257 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: don't pretend I didn't say that. So anyway, how can 258 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: I help you? How can I help you? Think? Uh? 259 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: What's the life cycle of shocks and struts? Uh? It 260 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: gets It depends on the roads and stuff. Though. I 261 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: think it depends on the roads. I think it depends 262 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: on the environment. I think it depends on what part 263 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: of the country. I think it depends on what we're driving. 264 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: I think it depends on your budget. Uh, you know, 265 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: I think it. I think there's a lot of factors. 266 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's not clearly mileage dependent. My two thousand 267 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: eight Chevy one ton pickup truck, my plow truck's got 268 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: thirty one thousand miles and change on it, and it's 269 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: been through two sets of front shocks, and it's about 270 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: to go through a south third. So you know it's 271 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: just I mean, the plow goes up, the plow goes down. 272 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: I hit every pothole that I tried to avoid. You 273 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: know what happens. Um uh, you know what kind of 274 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: car are we talking about here, Bob? It's just the 275 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: two Oh the Volkswagon grew up. Now they they have 276 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: got a big one. Yeah. Yeah, how many miles were 277 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: on it? And and I know you and from talking 278 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: to you over the years and all, and I know 279 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: what you're looking for. And I've got to think that 280 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you're kind of looking for it to 281 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: feel tight. And how close back to the factory can you? 282 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: And you know, I think that if you wish to 283 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: replace shocks and struts all the way around and maybe 284 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: think about springs and um, you know, because that to 285 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: me is the missing piece, that's the piece of the puzzle. 286 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: Everybody tends to to either ignore or forget about. Um, 287 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, if if the shocks have taken a beat, 288 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: and so have the springs, and you know, I'm sure 289 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: there's more than enough kids out there. We're manufacturers will 290 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: sell shock and strut or shock strut spring assemblies together 291 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: as a set and you know, put a match set 292 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: of suspension in the car and see what it does, 293 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: and then you'll have some more fun. Yeah. Yeah, well 294 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about going back to oh E M and 295 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: get the stuff or MOUTI yeah, at least put the 296 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: car back the way it was no right, Well either 297 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: that or and I mean, I'm sure there's there were 298 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: bill stains in that new would be my guests, uh Bill, 299 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: bill Stein or Coney. I'm not sure if I'm dating 300 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: myself they're saying the Coney word. Um. But I would 301 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: also tell you to go and look. I mean, the 302 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: suspension technology is scary. What's out there. It's just it's 303 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: just it's crazy. I started looking at I just purchased 304 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: a seventy two Monty Carlo this year, and I'm playing 305 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: around reliving my college days, and you know, and and 306 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: I started looking at, yeah, let's do some suspension to that, 307 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, and you started getting it up, and you know, 308 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: six thousand dollars later, I can make a seventy two 309 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: Monty Carlo go around a corner at ninety like it's 310 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: writing on rails. Uh. You know, I don't know how 311 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: my kidneys are gonna feel about that, you know, And 312 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: and you know, never mind the checkbook. Um, you know. 313 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: And to that point, what I decided was, I'm gonna 314 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: go and I'm gonna put the car together the way 315 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: I did when I was a college kid on a budget, 316 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: heavier springs front and back right from moving. Um, you know, 317 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: the strongest set of what I'll call factory gas shocks 318 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: I can find. Um, I'm actually gonna put a set 319 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: of Monrose in it, or the equivalent, because they don't 320 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: make Monroe gas maddics or radio matics anymore. I'm gonna 321 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: put the equivalent of that, and I'm just gonna drive it. 322 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: And you know, I put a bigger put a factory 323 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: sway bar in the front, and inch and a quarter 324 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: bar in the front and inch bar in the rear, 325 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: and we'll see how it handles. I mean, listen, it 326 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: used to scare me when I was nineteen. I figured, 327 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: it's gotta do a whole lot more. Now at this age, 328 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: you were doing this with biasupply tires. So well, no, 329 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: actually that was right around the time. I'm not that old, Bob. 330 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: It was right around the time when b if good 331 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: Rich radial t as had come to market, and and 332 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: you know I was hanging those on it. I will 333 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: tell you this though, I used to be able to 334 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: go into the corner so hard. I would actually break 335 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: the spot weld on the bottom of the shock the front, 336 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: and I would unwind the steel clamp that went around 337 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: the bushing. I kept returning him to the monrogu. If 338 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: he's listening to this show today, I'm sorry, but you 339 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: know I would actually every six to eight months, I 340 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: would return the front shocks. I would break the strap. 341 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: He goes, how do you keep breaking the world? I 342 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: don't know. I guess they're defective. Um, you know, but uh, 343 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: what can I tell you? I was like, you know what, 344 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: young and dumb, you do those things. But my part, 345 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: my point is before you just consign yourself all by 346 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: factory stuff, take a look at some of the aftermarket stuff. 347 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: There's a lot of performance suspension out there. There's a 348 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: lot of engineering and research that's gone into this. And uh, 349 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's not that it won't be fun to 350 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: drive in stock trim, but it might be even more fun. 351 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: Um might be even more fun to drive, you know, 352 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: with a little bit of juice in it. Sea Well, 353 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: that's DSc transmission. You come, launch the tires really easy. Yeah, 354 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: and you know, have some fun in the meantime, Bob, 355 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: it was great to catch up. You know, by all 356 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: means keep us in the keep us in the loop, 357 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: and let us know what you decide. And um, we're 358 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: talking about going to labor day, you know, the event 359 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: of their mahwa on labor Day. We're talking about that. 360 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: So hey, we'll see you up there. If we end 361 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: up going, I'm runing any in the guard doctor, we 362 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 1: will be back. We're right after this. Welcome back, right 363 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: the card doctor eight five zero nine zero zero. And 364 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: let me point out if you've got a car problem, 365 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: you've got a question, you've got something that's kind of 366 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: on your mind automotive related, you want to talk about it, 367 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: you give me a call, leave a message if the 368 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: show is not on the year and eight five five 369 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero during off show hours leads right 370 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: to my executive private, locked up, super secure mailbox and 371 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: it gets answered by another by the next up and 372 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: coming executive producer to the world of radio, but motorhead Matt, 373 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: who will astound you with his lackup knowledge about automobiles 374 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: and just what exactly he knows. Now you give that 375 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: him a call and you you try that out and see, yes, 376 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: Tony have a comment. I don't hear your tone pushed 377 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: down button. You are talking about match box cars, right, 378 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: cards Well, I didn't say what kind of cars he 379 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: knows about, but he you know, motorhead Matt knows about 380 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: that kind of cars. No, the last producer knew about 381 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: match box cars, didn't he. Um, but it depends if 382 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: we found him in a garage sail or not so. 383 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: And that was the key so to be named nameless. 384 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: Let's go and talk to Jason Colorado. Jason, welcome to 385 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: the car doctor, Sir, How can I help? What's going on? Hi? Um? 386 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: I've got a two thousand six cheaper and Cherokee Laredo 387 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: that has an intermittent start and um, it's crazy, like 388 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: it almost seems temperature related, which is so weird. Um. 389 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: During the winter, um, you know, and it gets pretty 390 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: culture consistently, it doesn't really do it. And then when 391 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: we came into the warmer temperatures, I'll go to start 392 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: it and it just kind of clicks, like the selenoids clicking, 393 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: which which which is six or V eight? It's the 394 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: V eight it's the four point seven. And when you 395 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: say it doesn't start, is it a is it just 396 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: clearly a click? Or does it? Is it? You know? 397 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: What does it exactly? Do it just clicks? Like it'll 398 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: just click kind of like you know, like the old 399 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: Nies era kind of selenoid failure and a starter and 400 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: you know you would go to turn the key and 401 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: you just kind of hear that clicking noise and then 402 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: you knew your selenoid it was bad. Um, it does 403 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: the exact same thing. It just kind of makes a 404 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: clicking noise. And then on the digital display where you 405 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: have parked neutral reverse drive, Um, before it starts clicking, 406 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, it'll just have the park indicator highlighted. And 407 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: then when it starts clicking, all those indicators light up. 408 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: So it's kind of like highlighting all the indicators. So 409 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: it's going into a reset. It's yeah, yeah, like it 410 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: it kind of goes into like lock up. And when 411 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: it locks up, I can't get the starter to engage. Um, 412 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: I don't get fuel and I don't get sparked. Okay, Um, 413 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: do you have any kind of a scantal? Yeah? I 414 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: ranked codes and I got a P zero seven zero six. 415 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: I believe range switched performance issue. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken. Um, 416 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: when you looked at codes, now, did you just pull 417 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: generic O b D two or did you go into 418 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: your make model for vehicle? Um, it's uh, it's a 419 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: generic O b D two. I think it's a bluetooth 420 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: I got from Amazon, So I think it just does 421 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: generic O b D two stuff, all right, So you 422 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: know the and it probably does. And O b D 423 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: two is a good place to start. We always we 424 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: always start there in the shop. It's it's it's it's 425 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: the place to start. But here's a case where I'd 426 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: like to see when the condition exists. Maybe we've got 427 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: a module dropping out. Maybe we can't talk to the 428 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: instrument cluster, maybe we can't to the trans module, the TCM, 429 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: maybe we can't talk to you know, who's not on 430 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: the bus anymore, who's not communicating? Now? The starter for 431 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: that's down on the right side of memory, serves me correct. 432 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: And it's got the most god awful solenoid connector with 433 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: a safety on it that you ever saw. So getting 434 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: it undone is a big pain in the butt. Um. 435 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: Normally I would normally I would sit there and I 436 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 1: would tell you to go down. If not, I'm not mistaken. 437 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: I think it's a brown or a tan wire with 438 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: a trace on it. Just to see do we have signal? 439 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: You know, and you know, just so maybe we've got 440 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: to go look at a wiring diagram. Excuse me, go 441 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: look at a wiring diagram, and you know, just check 442 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: do we have power there? Even though I understand what's 443 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: going on with the dashboard, but you know, maybe we 444 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: want to treat this as a six h Chevy no start, 445 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: bad starter, solenoid. Just test for power at the starter. 446 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: Do we have signal going to the solenoid? Do we 447 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: if we voltage drop the the battery cable, both the 448 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: positive and the negative cable, do we have correct voltage drop? 449 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: Do we have under three tensive a voult across uh? 450 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: You know the cable, so that we know we've got good, 451 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: good continuity. And then you know, how's the ground at 452 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 1: the block, how's the ground, how's the ground connection at 453 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: the battery itself? Because you live in Colorado, if the 454 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 1: vehicle has been there any length of time, um, you 455 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: know it's out in the weather and the elements and 456 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: what sort of corrosive you know, issues might we have. 457 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: Let's just a lot. There's a lot of mag chloride 458 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, right, so let's let's eliminate simple first. Okay, 459 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: you know, even to the point that maybe what you 460 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: could do is if you can get a wiring diagram, 461 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: figure out where that solenoid wire comes from, and maybe 462 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: we can you know, get to it easier up higher 463 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: in the fender whale, so to speak, and wire in 464 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,239 Speaker 1: a one side marker bulb socket. You know, go down, 465 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 1: go down to your local oroilly ooto parts you got 466 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: on our radyota parts around you. Okay, just go down 467 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: and you know, you know what, you know what a 468 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: side marker bulb is like you would use in it 469 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: in the directional or a parking lamp. Well, they make 470 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: definitely they'll sell sockets. You know, there's just like universal 471 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: sockets that will hold those bulls for trailers and things. 472 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: So go down and buy a couple of those. Look 473 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: at the wiring diagram and say, let's say I want 474 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: to see what the voltage is here, and maybe I 475 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: want to see what the voltage is there. Wire in 476 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: the side markers, wire in the bulbs. All right, we 477 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: do this. We do this with customers. We've done this 478 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: where we put the bulbs in the glove compartment or 479 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: under the dash, and we'll put different colored bulbs into 480 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: each socket. You know, we'll put a clear, we'll put 481 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: a frosted, We'll we'll put a two on one, we'll 482 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: put a yellow one in there, and then they'll tell 483 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: us which one lit up, the yellow one. Okay, that 484 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: tells us where we gotta go. You know, if if 485 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: you go to start this and all you get is click, 486 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: but that bulb is lit and you voltage dropped the system, 487 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: you know that at least you've got to have a 488 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: bad starter. I mean, there's there's just nothing else that 489 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: can be that checked. I took it to a mechanic 490 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: and that's what they thought it was. They thought it 491 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: was either the battery or the starter, and I did 492 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: just have the battery replaced. So they replaced the starter 493 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: and they called me and they're like, you know, it's 494 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: get done, come pick it up. And when I was 495 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: on my way there to pick it up, they called 496 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: me back and they're like, nope, it's not the starter. 497 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: You know, just getting another hour. And they actually they 498 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: couldn't figure out what was wrong with it. They didn't 499 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: charge me anything, kind of just told me sorry. They 500 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: were like, we don't know what's wrong with it. We 501 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: think it's a module in the dash, but we're not sure, right, 502 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: And that's and I'm kind of inclined to agree with them. 503 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: I just if it's easy enough to get to the 504 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: soloid feed, I'd just like to see you do it, 505 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: just because we don't diagnose by replacement, because then I 506 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: can make the argument and we could have a two 507 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: hour conversation about how you know, just because they put 508 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: a new part and it doesn't mean the new part 509 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 1: was any good, new means never ever worked, you know, 510 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: So just it's you know, the art of the diagnosis 511 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: is it eliminates known good and at least we can 512 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: get out of that. Then I'm gonna tell you that. 513 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna tell you I want to go and 514 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: look at you know, manufacturer specific with a with a 515 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: scan tool and see if you know what module is 516 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: not communicating. And you know, the last thought I've got 517 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: is when the problem happens, you're in part correct. Yeah, 518 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: And um, I've tried moving it from park to neutral 519 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: and no change, yeah, no change. It still won't start 520 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: and it shows the digital indicator will show that I'm 521 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: moving it from park to neutral, acknowledging that, but it 522 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: still won't start that. I'd love to see what a 523 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: scan tool would report. Those vehicles did have more than 524 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: their fair share of shifter range problem issues, and it 525 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: was it was the module or the switch itself UM, 526 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: which is incorporated into it depending upon your making model. 527 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: So I think you're going to find looking at it 528 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: on a scan tool that when this problem happens, that 529 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: the trans control or the shifter module, the s r 530 00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: M s s E s M Electronic shift module UM, 531 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 1: doesn't communicate. It's it's just not gonna be there. It's 532 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: gonna be off the bus. And that's going to tell 533 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: you that that's a problem unto itself too. Yeah, and 534 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: then the whole system just goes into lock up, doesn't 535 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: start correct correct. So alright, so get a look at that. 536 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: You know, maybe you can get your hands on a 537 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: scan tool or take it back to that shop. It 538 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: seems like they want to work with you. Explain to 539 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: them our conversation or if you if they want to 540 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: hear this conversation, all they've got to do is go 541 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: to Car Doctor show dot com. This would be our 542 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: one on uh what is today, August the twelfth. August 543 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: the twelfth would be our one August the twelve, or 544 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: about three quarters of the way through. We started at 545 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour. If they go to the 546 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: middle of the podcast, they can hear the conversation and 547 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: maybe it'll give them some ideas. Um. I'm not saying 548 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: I got all the answers, but I think it's a 549 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: pretty good way to attack this particular problem. Alright, Yeah, 550 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: it's yeah, definitely, thank you. It's it's very frustrating because 551 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: it's like nothing wrong, you know, there's never been anything 552 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: wrong with the truck, and then all of a sudden, 553 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: it's just like, no start and it doesn't seem to 554 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: be any reason why it won't start right. And like 555 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: I said, don't forget the voltage drop, you know, I, 556 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: I everybody, he always thinks about the positive side of 557 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: a circuit. Don't forget the voltage dropped the ground to 558 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: make sure the connection at the block is good. You know, 559 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: all those things come into play, and then we'll start 560 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 1: to talk about the more complicated I read a post 561 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: somewhere and then I gotta go. I read a post 562 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: Somewhere in the last two weeks in the mechanics forum, 563 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: I belonged to where they were going through all this 564 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: diagnosis for an intermittent, slow cranking Chevy Silverado. They went 565 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: through every control around the car, every module they looked 566 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: at it. I mean they had four days in this car, 567 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: and the one test they missed was they never put 568 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: a volt meter or a bulber An indicator on the 569 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: solenoid feedwire going to the starter. It turns out when 570 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: the problem happened, the solenoid had power, the starter was 571 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: being energized. The starter made no sound. It was a 572 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: bad starter. Roll along. They changed everything else around it. 573 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: So you gotta look at everything. I know it's hard, 574 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: but you have to. So anyway, good luck to you, Jason. 575 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: Keep me in the loop and we'll we'll look forward 576 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: to your return. Caali six zero zero. We're in late 577 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: gotta go. I'm running ending the car doctor back right 578 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: after this, are you, hey, welcome back? Why don't the 579 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: name the car doctor, Tony? Did you put that bumper in? 580 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: Is that just that just kind of got logged in? 581 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: Is it because we were just talking about DejaVu? So 582 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,479 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess I gotta tell them, yes, we're 583 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: gonna go to the dead Man up in Mahwa, and 584 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: you know we'll do that. Let me I'll text them 585 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: right after the show. So it's not affirmative until they 586 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: say yes back, because maybe they get a good look 587 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: at us and decide no, they don't want these ugly 588 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: guys showing up. But you never know, maybe we'll be there. 589 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: So chances are September two we'll be up in Mawa 590 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: at the dead Man's Curve event up at the Middle 591 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: ends up at the Sheridan up there in Mala. So 592 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: we'll get it right. Let's go and talk to David 593 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: in Iowa. Um, which which brings me in another subday. 594 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: Hey David, I know you've got a good ren with Ron. 595 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: You really that telling about yeah, the Monte Carlo and 596 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: um yeah, the one that you're trying to get running 597 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: in the back of the gas station, right, yeah, Well 598 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: this is well, this was the one that had that 599 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: oh we couldn't figure it out on the distributor or 600 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: whatever that was. It was a wife car. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, 601 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: so now what's this car today? This is no, Well, 602 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: I've got a party act. I want to. I want to. 603 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: I want to give you equipment on that man car. First, 604 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: I got it, I got it fixed. I fixed it permanently. Okay, 605 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: I'll open I run through some tire mine in there, 606 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: and I ran like hell, and uh but it costs 607 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: me more to pick up the pieces than it did 608 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: to fix it. Well, I bet it. Would you know that? Um? 609 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,719 Speaker 1: Did you really do that? David? Yeah? That that's your 610 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: happy birthday gif. Well, thank you. That's a heck of 611 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: a that's a heck of a candle, brother, So not 612 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: gonna not gonna help you with the pontac. What's going 613 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: on there? Okay, I got a car break to scat 614 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: car carver and uh it'll the car run and drive 615 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: for probably I don't know, maybe the block twice, and 616 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: then it stops. Okay, and we do it again. Let 617 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: it set for a little row, and it starts back up, 618 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: and uh, it ran a little bit more, and this 619 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: time it just quit. So I suppose I hate to 620 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: get under that thing and try to take out the 621 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: gas tank and all that stuff and clean the lines out, 622 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: But it probably might be a smart idea, don't you think. Well, yeah, 623 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: so what this car has been sitting a long time. Oh, 624 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: probably about twenty years, thirty years, dude, it's it's gonna 625 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: be all loaded with the fuel has probably turned to varnish, 626 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: and you know, the fuel pump has probably been destroyed. 627 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: The rubber has just been attacked, and uh, you know, 628 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: there's there's a hundred things to do here. What kind 629 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: of pontiac is this? It's a hard top? Oh yeah, 630 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: that car is worth saving. What motors in that? Would 631 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: that have been a three eight nine? Yeah? Yeah? Three 632 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: nine four barrel? Oh yeah yeah, pretty pretty neat card, David. 633 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: It's probably worth a few bucks if you take care. 634 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: There's none again in it anywhere. I mean, it's all together. 635 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: And the guy I bought it from it was the 636 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: original They said they were they were having trouble with 637 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: it and he wanted to get rid of it, and 638 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: I bought it really super reason. The lord, Yeah, that's 639 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: that's that's a no brainer. Brother. Pull the gas tank, 640 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: send the tank out, get it flushed. The fuel it's 641 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: in there probably turned to varnish. Keep in mind that 642 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: if they tell you the tank is you know, Exeter 643 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 1: stand or something. There are kids out there from various 644 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: companies that you can you can line the inside of 645 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: the tank with and I would tell you to do 646 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: that before, you know, depending on how rusty or ugly 647 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: it is, but um, I would tell you to do 648 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: that before you just replace the tank and then yeah, 649 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: go through, blow the lines. What's it gonna take. Blow 650 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: the lines, put a fuel pump on it, and rebuild 651 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: the carburetor. You know, I'm not that guy. They don't. 652 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: They don't have more than I would be willing to 653 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: put the teen into it just to get it to 654 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, completely back to original. It's it's really a 655 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: nice Yeah, it sounds like it. Listen, I'm I don't 656 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: know if you can but see if you can go 657 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: out to the car Doctor Facebook page and post a 658 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: picture of it. Either that you can, you can probably 659 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: put a picture of it in the messaging section. I'm thinking, 660 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: um one way or the other. But I'd love to 661 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: see a picture of it. I'm sure that. I'm sure 662 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: the other listeners would too. And uh, you never know, 663 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: when you need parts for it, maybe somebody out there's 664 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: got something that's lying around with uh, you know, you 665 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: never know. Thank you, brother, Thank you, you take good 666 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: care and I'm always good to hear from David and Iowa. 667 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: By the way, before I forget what it happened to 668 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: the guy in Iowa with the ice cream? Remember him 669 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: from was that like two years ago that made the 670 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: ice cream for us? I can't think of his name. 671 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: I gotta look that up. Um, but that was really 672 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: good ice cream. I wonder if he's still doing it, 673 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: so um if he's out there, um strawberry. All right, Hey, 674 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: Ron and Ayan card ocurrate five five five zero zero. 675 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: We are going to cruise back right after this. Back 676 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: in the car. Doctor here, Um, let's finish up. You 677 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: know it was. We were off last week and playing 678 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: hooky and a week before we read Steve rosen Fall 679 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: from Virginia's letter and I marked where I left off 680 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: some of the comments, Uh that that Steve Max and 681 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: I love Steve if he's a great guy, but some 682 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: of his comments are hysterical. We were talking about different things, 683 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: Steve says, Hey, Michelin tires, I would have said at 684 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: Sam's Club fifteen years ago for the ninety nine green 685 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: Ha Honda Civic. Four years later, the Right Front developed 686 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: the bulge around seventy thousand miles about to the local 687 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: Firestone and used Firestone Bridge stone, Since you see that 688 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: just proves that you know your creatures of habit. What 689 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: you tend to buy the first time, you you'll stick 690 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: with when you have a good experience. I guess that's 691 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: true as far as advertising, Let's spring a wheel in 692 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: blue Honda through weight causing a vibration from seventy problem 693 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 1: resolved when it was replaced driverless cars. I like Steve's 694 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: perspective on this ron who's gonna work on them? You 695 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: will be ready if you choose to. But what about 696 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: the guys who just throw parts of cars? Paying unemployment 697 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,959 Speaker 1: for those displaced by driverless cars? You know you gotta 698 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: think about that, right, all the mechanics that say, hey, 699 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna work on a driverless car. I'm just 700 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: gonna go on unemployment. I'm just gonna retire. And he says, 701 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: what's the government gonna do? No sweat, They'll just put 702 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 1: more money count on it. We're only twenty trillion in debts. 703 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: So what's the real problem? You know, Steve, he just 704 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: he just he rambles, but he rambles in the right direction, 705 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: and he's got good marks. He needs a radio show 706 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: of his own. And I don't know, I'd love to 707 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: see that. Steve Rosenthal, Virginia, thanks for the comments and thoughts. 708 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: I'm running any in the card doctor until the next time. 709 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. I see you