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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Daily on sp

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zagura.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in on a Monday edition of Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Brown's Daily. Nathan Zagura and the voice of your Cleveland Browns, Jim,

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Speaker 1: Donovan and Bow still gallivanting around and Big Horn having

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Speaker 1: the time of his life. And but we've got the

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Speaker 1: good weather here Jim. A good weekend hopefully, and great

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Speaker 1: to be with you. How you doing, I am doing good,

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Speaker 1: Good to be with you. It's it's nice to be here. Boy.

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Speaker 1: This is a great day. Great day today weatherwise, feels great. Finally, right,

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Speaker 1: we've earned it. I would hope for this and training camp, Nathan,

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Speaker 1: no hotter than this, no warmer than this. Beautiful and Sonny.

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Speaker 1: The Browns continuing phase two of their off season today,

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Speaker 1: which means they're able to get out on the grass,

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Speaker 1: no helmets, no offense versus defense, but start to really

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Speaker 1: install this offense. Throw the ball around a little bit,

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Speaker 1: as we saw a little teaser up at the end

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Speaker 1: of the Building the Browns episode, And I know you

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Speaker 1: like this week's building the Browns. I was glued to

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Speaker 1: Building the Browns and I just want to commend the

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Speaker 1: producers of that. Um, this is not a shameless plug.

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Speaker 1: I mean this is I am an audience person, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm I was glued to it because I knew it

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Speaker 1: was the draft episode, but it was so much more

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Speaker 1: than that first sance. The story about Nick Harris and

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Speaker 1: what he went through to transform his body to become,

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Speaker 1: you know, a bigger, stronger center, and with the starting

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Speaker 1: job being dangled out there in front of him, with

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Speaker 1: j C. Trenor being gun and how he's eating like

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Speaker 1: six seven calories and he's reaching for the smoothies that

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Speaker 1: are like a thousand of pot but how he worked

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Speaker 1: every day, like he stayed here every day. And I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about him. You know, we've only had a couple

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Speaker 1: of glimpses of him when he's played, but I he

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Speaker 1: a difficult position to typically catch your eye unless you're

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Speaker 1: really looking at the guy. But I really enjoyed watching

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Speaker 1: him play. Two years ago he played guard, Then last

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Speaker 1: he did a great job that day in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: He was all over the field. He's a different kind

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Speaker 1: of center, I think. Then then j C who was

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Speaker 1: very effective at what he did. But that was a

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Speaker 1: great story, and then the draft stories are great. But

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Speaker 1: the other thing that was really neat that hit me

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Speaker 1: was a couple of the young rookies upon being drafted, said,

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Speaker 1: you know, I already had Deshaun Watson reach out to

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Speaker 1: me and say, hey, welcome, looking forward to throwing to you,

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Speaker 1: looking forward to having you with us, which was the

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Speaker 1: case with the first pick that they had at the

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Speaker 1: defensive back. So I thought that was great, and it

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Speaker 1: tells me how they are really starting to mesh. You know,

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Speaker 1: Kevin's the Fancy made the point on the show that

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Speaker 1: you know, the most important thing is for us to

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Speaker 1: become a team and to be around each other and

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Speaker 1: to get that. But you know, you mentioned Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: reaching out to those guys, and yet like he is

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Speaker 1: from talking to people around here, he has come in

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Speaker 1: become the unquestioned leader, wanting to get guys together here,

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Speaker 1: wanting to get together with guys off the field. We've

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Speaker 1: seen him spend time with Bernie Kozar already as easy

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Speaker 1: you know, so I'm having dinner. They had dinner, and

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Speaker 1: they were just at the Rams, a semi pro football

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Speaker 1: team game over the weekend. Um, but yeah, he has

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Speaker 1: definitely taking that leadership role and and it's nice to see,

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Speaker 1: you know that that is the excitement that I think

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Speaker 1: the broms with DeShawn Watson in that position, which is

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Speaker 1: so important. But I would urge people watch that episode.

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Speaker 1: It's a great episode and you can watch it at

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Speaker 1: any time, of course, with that's right today being what

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Speaker 1: But this is a great episode. I commend them. I

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Speaker 1: out and backed real quickly. To your point on Nick Harris,

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Speaker 1: used tell Gibbey all the time because you know, for

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Speaker 1: to get to our Jim. There wasn't a time that

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Speaker 1: see Nick Harris working out. You know, I remember his

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Speaker 1: which happened. So we saw Nick Harris day in and

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Speaker 1: Then the other thing you have to remember, j C

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Speaker 1: He's got great feet and Deec of course loves it

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Speaker 1: game there. All right, how was your weekend, Jim? A

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Speaker 1: So was the guy that called it. Who's the great

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Speaker 1: Larry Kellmas who calls all the Triple Crown races, And

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Speaker 1: I mean he's doing a phenomenal job as he always does,

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Speaker 1: Zandon that he wasn't it didn't occur to him that

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to the people a little bit, Jim.

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Speaker 1: like I said, Jim Donvan with us for the full

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Speaker 1: say Perry and Winfrey and Kate York. They like Jerome

428
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Speaker 1: Ford a lot, very productive at Cincinnati. But if you're

429
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Speaker 1: you know, Michael Woods, Isaiah Thomas, Dawson Deaton. In the past,

430
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Speaker 1: not only would you have been allowed to make the

431
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Speaker 1: roster been that you might have been playing football for

432
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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns in week number one. And now I

433
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Speaker 1: think it is and it will be a you know,

434
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Speaker 1: an uphill climb to the roster and to prove that

435
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Speaker 1: you belong here. So here's what I think on the

436
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Speaker 1: in the early part of the draft. I think the

437
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Speaker 1: guys that are going to be very very critical. The

438
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: kicker is going to be really critical. He's gonna be

439
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 1: critical right away. I mean he's brought in to kick

440
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,679
Speaker 1: in an area they need a kicker. They're gonna be

441
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 1: in tight games. We were last year. We were frantic

442
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 1: near the end of the season because our our kicker

443
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: was not really handling that situation all that well. I mean,

444
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 1: he got through it, but we weren't there. There's no

445
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 1: doubt about it. So he is going to be vital

446
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: right away. But I would say, with what we have

447
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: and what we haven't done yet and I don't know

448
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: if we're going to do it, I would say David

449
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: Bell becomes very critical and Alex Wright becomes very very critical,

450
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Speaker 1: especially if Jadeveon Clowney is is not here, which he

451
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Speaker 1: isn't right now and we don't have a deal, and

452
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: if he doesn't come here, Alex Wright's importance becomes even more.

453
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Speaker 1: But David Bell and Alex Wright would become very very important,

454
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Speaker 1: I would think now. I would think Winfrey would be

455
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Speaker 1: put into a rotation the situation where you roll for

456
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Speaker 1: a lot of those guys, But those two guys which

457
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Speaker 1: seem to be very important, and Bell's got a tremendous

458
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Speaker 1: opportunity as the days go by here and what I

459
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: allude I go back to building of the Browns and

460
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: how they were really so excited to get him and

461
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,479
Speaker 1: told him that the head coach told him that that's

462
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Speaker 1: what I saw you And I went in and said, hey, listen,

463
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Speaker 1: we gotta have this guy that to me is as

464
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Speaker 1: effusive of praises you're gonna hear from Kevin Steffanci when

465
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Speaker 1: he said I believe Oh, thanks thanks for believing me. Oh,

466
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Speaker 1: I believe in you. And then I I wanted told

467
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Speaker 1: them I wanted to get you. We have to leave

468
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Speaker 1: this day. He likes him a lot, obviously, big plans

469
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Speaker 1: where I got to talk with Chadow Share, a wide

470
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Speaker 1: receiver coach which is on the b p A which

471
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Speaker 1: you can check out about twenty minutes talking about our

472
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Speaker 1: whole receiver room. He loves David Bell, and I think

473
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Speaker 1: they envisioned him like of the names you mentioned, Kate

474
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Speaker 1: your coming in. He is a starter, right they cut

475
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: the other kickers. He's the kicker. Very very important guy,

476
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Speaker 1: very important guy. I think David Bell has an excellent

477
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Speaker 1: chance to be a starter from day one in what

478
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Speaker 1: I would call the Browns eleven personnel pack. Could just

479
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: so in three receiver sets, and I think the vision

480
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Speaker 1: is for him while he can win outside, to be inside,

481
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: and I think that that's where they think he can

482
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: be very productive. So those two guys right now, if

483
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Speaker 1: you're saying who who's day one starters, I would agree

484
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 1: with you. I think those two Bell and York right

485
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: could be. But I don't think that's the ideal scenario.

486
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Speaker 1: Perry and Winfrey could be. I mean, that room is

487
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: as wide open as it gets. You got Jordan Elliott,

488
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: You've got Tommy Tog, Yeah, you brought in Taven Brian,

489
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: You've got Sheldon Day, and now you have Winfrey. Winfrey

490
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Speaker 1: is a guy you might be the most disruptive pass

491
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Speaker 1: rusher of all of them. So I'm certainly in a rotation, really,

492
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Speaker 1: but that's a room that's wide open. That's one that

493
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Speaker 1: we really don't know how it's gonna look. M j

494
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: Emerson ironically is your first pick here in this draft,

495
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Speaker 1: and he could compete on the outside with the trade

496
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Speaker 1: of Troy Hill. It looks to me like as of now,

497
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: you know the Browns are gonna go with Denzel Ward

498
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Speaker 1: and Greg Newsom into cornerback in their base defense, and

499
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: then in the nickel Ward and then Greg will kick

500
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: inside and you'll have a competition. I would imagine Greedy Williams,

501
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: a J. Green who played very well for you last year,

502
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,719
Speaker 1: and now you know M. J. Emerson, who is an

503
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: outside corner. I still think we need to add somebody

504
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: to that room who was a pure Scott, pure slot

505
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: corner as it were. Yeah, I think so, and um,

506
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: we'll see how that plays out. Back to Bell just

507
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: for a second. Um, and a lot of people when

508
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: you listen talk shows things like that post draft situation,

509
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people really well, he's not fast. He

510
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: didn't run well and he ran he ran even slower

511
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Speaker 1: at his pro day. I have to tell you something,

512
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Speaker 1: I can't get wrapped up in all of that, um

513
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: the speed, because I just I mean to some guys,

514
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: yet Tyree Kill definitely I see it on the field,

515
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. He can run past people. I

516
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: hope Anthony Schwartz does that because that was his calling

517
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: card coming in. But the fact that I don't necessarily look,

518
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Speaker 1: I think it's important how they find their way to

519
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: get open. Can they get open and the thing of it,

520
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: and then can they catch the ball? That's what it's

521
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: all about. That's what this guy does. He catches the

522
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Speaker 1: ball and he wins the football. So the speed factor,

523
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Speaker 1: I think sometimes people had really wrapped up on pre

524
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: draft post you know, on campus workout, pro day, workout,

525
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: things like that. He didn't run well, um because I

526
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Speaker 1: I think once you get on the field, it kind

527
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: of negates all about you're playing football. You just find

528
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: an open spot, catch the football and go. Everybody looks

529
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: very quick once they catch it and go, you know,

530
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: David and Joku looks very very quick to me when

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Speaker 1: he catches the ball and gets those big legs, that

532
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: big stride going right. You know. But I don't know

533
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Speaker 1: what he is on the clock, and at that point

534
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: on the day, I don't care what he is on

535
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Speaker 1: the clock. Ay he caught it, be he's running away

536
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: from people, and that's the way that is, you know,

537
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: that's the way that is. I think, So I wouldn't

538
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: get all wrapped up in that what he ran in

539
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: the forty I wonder where Jerry Rice would have been

540
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Speaker 1: drafted in today's NFL because they would have said, what

541
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Speaker 1: is he run six? He's a four six guy. I

542
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: never saw him get caught. I got to grow up

543
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: watching a lot of Jerry Do the time, Cooper Cup

544
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,239
Speaker 1: with a sun dial or a watch. I mean, but

545
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,719
Speaker 1: ye can't cover him, just you know, you can't cover him.

546
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Triple Crown, he you won it. This

547
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: year receptions, yards, and touchdowns at the receiver position led

548
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: the league in all three categories. Now they're very excited

549
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: about David Bell and what he can bring to this offense.

550
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: And you know, you go back and you look at

551
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: his biggest games, you know, Michigan State, Penn State, Iowa,

552
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: the Buckeyes, he had eleven plus catches and a couple

553
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: of those games he average over twenty yards a catch

554
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: against the best competition that he would face that year,

555
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: and I think goes along guy as a football player.

556
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Speaker 1: Bottom well, I remember watching it against Michigan State because

557
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: I was really anxious to see Michigan State the week.

558
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: It was right after the Michigan win, right, and they

559
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: came out and they went to I think that game

560
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: was at West Lafayette that day, and David Bell was

561
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Speaker 1: very very good that day. Yeah, Perdue was tremendous that day,

562
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: and he was a big part of them being tremendous

563
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: that day. Is they really handled Michigan State in that game,

564
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: and that game he went, I know, he went for

565
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: over two hundred yards in that game. He had just

566
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: a monster bottom line is he had a monster season,

567
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: a monster career there last year and eighty six yards

568
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: receiving the average fourteen yards of catch in college. But

569
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Speaker 1: as you said, he had and he was biggest what

570
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: I think people like about I know I'm talking here

571
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: to the guys in the Browns, biggest in the big games.

572
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: You mentioned Michigan State eleven catches, two d seventeen yards

573
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: and a touchdown. He had eleven for two forty and

574
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: a touchdown against Purdue. He had eleven catches again against

575
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: Ohio State for a hundred and three. So a very

576
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: productive guy in big, big games and against the best

577
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: competition that he saw. Notre Dame though, seven for sixty four.

578
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: So the Golden Dome mercy. You know, I'm trying, and yeah,

579
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Speaker 1: I was remembering that day. What happened in that game

580
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: that day. Um, I think they had a quarterback situation

581
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: that day where they had a quarterback and a quarterback

582
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: out that changes the dynamics in that game. That would

583
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: make sense because he goes eight for one thirty four

584
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: against Oregon State, six for one twenty one and three

585
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: against Connecticut, seven for sixty four against Dame, comes out

586
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: of that six for one twenty against Minnesota, and then

587
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: eleven for two forty and a touchdown against Iowa. Yeah,

588
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: I really I remember that game, and I do believe

589
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: there was a quarterback either their starter got hurt and

590
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: was in and out. But I remember late in the

591
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: game and they were trying to rally in that game,

592
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: and they had a newer quarterback in for Purdue, and

593
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: and you know they were just But I like that.

594
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: So if you after this draft, and we went into it,

595
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: we knew we needed to get some guys in the

596
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: edge room. You get to you get Alex right yet,

597
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas, need to get a defensive tackle. You did

598
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: that Perion win for You needed a corner Martin Emerson.

599
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: Now we didn't know it was gonna be the first

600
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: pick there, but with the trade of Troy Hill, it

601
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: actually became a lot more clear that you were going

602
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: to do that. And the Browns picked up not only

603
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: in the trade with Minnesota, but in the trade for

604
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: Troy Hill, given them two nine players this year plus

605
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: two picks next year. UM, as you sit here with

606
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: this roster now, it does feel like you could run

607
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: out there on opening Day and play football. But there

608
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: are still some things that you probably would like to add.

609
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: So what jumps out to you right now is the

610
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: biggest things you want to add here to this Cleveland

611
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: Browns roster between now and and you know, hopefully the

612
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp and if not then training camp. Well,

613
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: I would love to see, you know, a pass rusher

614
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: and with and I would love to see Clowney year.

615
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: I really would would have to see him. I think

616
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: that would complete them up front and certainly give them

617
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: what they had last year, which was very good and

618
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: very very good at the end of the year. And

619
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Speaker 1: I think it was only on the rise. I think

620
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: he realized that. So that would be very comforting to

621
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: me that he would come back and they would be there. UM.

622
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: I was interested to read over the weekend that um

623
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: I think it was Mary cabro At the article that

624
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: the Browns might be content at wide receiver, that maybe

625
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: they weren't going to be so pressed into looking for

626
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: a more of a veteran wide receiver to come in

627
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: that they were pretty comfortable with where they are. I

628
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: guess I, going into the thing, thought that there would

629
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: be another I thought there would be a combination of receivers.

630
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: I thought that they would go early, which in their

631
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: draft they did to get David Bell. And then I

632
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: thought that there would be a veteran wide receiver coming in.

633
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: And you can take a pic as who was going

634
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: to be. I know a lot of people with their

635
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: heart wanted to see Landry comeback. But I, you know,

636
00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: I still I think I might still investigate that. I

637
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: think so too. Let's go there. There were there was

638
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: some thought this weekend that no, they feel good, you

639
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: know about what they have. I do think they feel

640
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: good about what they have. I think to your point

641
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: earlier about Anthony Schwartz, that you're at he is unique

642
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: and that he is your vertical guy. Now not even

643
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: people's Jones first career, which is over eighteen yards a catch.

644
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: But he's not a traditional lineup and the other defense

645
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: is saying, oh boy, he's gonna run bias. Now. He

646
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: makes big plays through great route running and he's a

647
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: great contested catch guy. But the idea that this offense

648
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: is gonna believe it's you know, field stretching, take the

649
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: top off role solely two shorts. I think that's where

650
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: you could get a little concerned. But now he was

651
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: the third round pick a year ago. You invested in

652
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: him to do this. But I think your point is

653
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: well taken that you know, Will Fuller is still out there,

654
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: de Sean Jackson's out there, t y Hilton veterans who

655
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: have done this in the past around the league, and

656
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: that would command that kind of respect. I think I

657
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: do think that is something that the Browns will still investigate.

658
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: Will that lead to anything that, I don't know, but

659
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: investigate it, I think absolutely. Will Fuller, of course played

660
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: with Sean payed very well, played very very well. Um

661
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: just ran into some injury problems, certainly when he was

662
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: in Houston. I think he broke his leg, didn't he

663
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: one year leg injuries. He's had hand in Muris down

664
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: with Miami, which didn't go the way that anybody wanted

665
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: it to, and so but there was a definite comfort

666
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: factor there. I can remember when Watson and Fuller were

667
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: together and played the Browns. It was tough to defend

668
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: against him. I just would be a little bit more

669
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: comfortable with that that they had another veteran guy in there.

670
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: Then there's no doubt they have got some guys that

671
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: are very very interesting Donovan Peoples, Jones, very interesting guy, Schwartz,

672
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: big big ceiling there. Hopefully he can do it. There

673
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: were peaks of it last year. Um, but you know,

674
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: I don't know that Cooper can carry the whole load,

675
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: right correct, And I think that's and he is, I

676
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: think best suited to be if you're if you're gonna

677
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: take again from like, for example, what they do in

678
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: Minnesota when Kevin was there and you had Stefon Diggs

679
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: and you had Adam Feeling. He's much more of a

680
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: feeling then he is a Stefon Diggs, And so I

681
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: think that's the compliment, that's the piece that you're looking

682
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: to get in there. But I think a Marik Cooper

683
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: is gonna have a very very nice season here. And

684
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: the chemistry between he and Deshaun Watson and I'm told

685
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: as already looking very good here in this early phase.

686
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: Again on air, we're not talking about anything like that,

687
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: but just they they've they've gotten along and gotten off

688
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: to a very good start. So I'm with your receiver

689
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: Clowney number one on the list. Right, Alex writes the

690
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: guy that they feel even when you hear them talk

691
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: about they loved him total consensus in the building. We

692
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: wanted him when in the draft seventy eight and are

693
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: all of our scenarios that we wanted it was Alex, right,

694
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: and then you get to call his name. But I

695
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: think the feeling is that he's a guy who is

696
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 1: still developing, growing into his body which has undergone a

697
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: monstrous transformation in four years, and they think still room

698
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: to grow there. But I think the idea would be

699
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: that you would want to bring him along more slowly

700
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: than say, Okay, you've got to get out there day

701
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: one and play. Because I think Chase Winovic is first

702
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: of all, I love that guy. Think he's gonna be

703
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: a ton of fun for anybody here in the media,

704
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna be fun on the field.

705
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: But I think you will see him more than that

706
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: tech McKinley, third pass rusher type of a role. Now,

707
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: the thing about him, you have to you have to

708
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: really go back last year. New England really changed their

709
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: defense last year. Going into the season um and they

710
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: changed their personnel. He became a victim of that, I think,

711
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: both in scheme and then the people that they brought

712
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: in Judon came in there played very well. I mean,

713
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: you know, they brought back you know, the linebacker Van

714
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: and it came back, and so there was there was

715
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: less of the pie for him to eat, whereas before that.

716
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: I think that's when his numbers looked wild. It was

717
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: an interesting guy, had eleven sacks on the year. He

718
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: was outstanding on special teams for them. But I know

719
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: he wants to play. He makes his money on defense.

720
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: He wants to be out there. So I'm not saying

721
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: you give him a pass. But there was a great

722
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: difference in what New England was doing defensively as to

723
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: what they were doing when he first came to them. Yeah,

724
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: and his first two seasons he was highly productive. I

725
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: think when that now, I don't know. I don't remember him.

726
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: And when we were there this past year, I don't

727
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: remember him being a part of the puzzle. Even in

728
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: that game, and they missed that one with with COVID

729
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: and so I watched that from home and by the

730
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: end of the day I was happy that I hadn't

731
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: gone on that room trip, Jim to be perfectly that

732
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: the one that's a good one to skip. Again. Let

733
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 1: me say this, if you were going to miss a flight,

734
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: and you and I are both white knucklers, were for

735
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: the white knuckle crew, that's where we're really gonna misstake

736
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: very calm, nonst by the turbulus. That was a rough flight.

737
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: There were um they were like tornado warnings in the

738
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: Providence area. And where do we land, everybody? When we

739
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: go there and not Boston? We land in Providence. Unbelievable

740
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: coming down. And I remember we got off, we were

741
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: coming to the hotel and a bunch of the security

742
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: people came up to me and they said, how did

743
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: you do in the flight? And I said, it was

744
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: a little bumpy and there he said, we were all

745
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: sick in the back of the plane. It was really

746
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: it was another It's not wend I mean it sounds

747
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: like that would have made it onto our amount rushmore.

748
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: I mean we had the Cincinnati which never be topped,

749
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: hopefully hopefully Denver wasn't it Denver where Denver Park two?

750
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: Denver where second year? Yeah, where I was pretty sure

751
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: we were crash. We dropped a goodt that's probably an exaggeration.

752
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: It was enough for you. Yeah, no, that was that

753
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: was a real one. That was very scary one. But

754
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: we're here. That's the thing about flights, it's really binary.

755
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: Every every time you land, it's a good one exactly.

756
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: That's it. It's like there's just one great they really

757
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: have We survived? Yes, good, We've done it. All right.

758
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: We will be back with We're having a great time

759
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: already here with Jim Donovan still to come, Map Miller.

760
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: We're gonna take some phone calls when we come back.

761
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a look at this schedule. What it

762
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 1: could mean for your Cleveland Browns here is they're kind

763
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: of just leaking things out. One game, here are two games.

764
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: They're so far nothing Brown's no Mystery on Monday Night.

765
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: Monday Nights out and we'll talk about that. When something

766
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: they've never done before, I think I might actually like it.

767
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: We'll see, all right. More clean Brown's Daily here on

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Speaker 1: eight fifty ESPN Cleveland Cleveland Brown's Daily on eight fifty

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Speaker 1: a grand opening event at the newest Meyer location. Visit

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772
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Speaker 1: Nathan Sigura and the voice of the Cleveland Browns, Jim Donovan,

775
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: with you on this Monday. As the Browns remain in

776
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: Phase two. Able to get out on the grass, often

777
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: separated from defense, but go through things. Uh no helmets,

778
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: nothing like that, but good to get out there and

779
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: at least start to install this offense and get things

780
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: in and the defense for Joe Woods on that side

781
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: of the ball. But we got the rookie Minicamp coming

782
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: up this Friday. We've got the NFL schedule release this Thursday,

783
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: though games matriculating out as they do one at a time.

784
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: A little taste here, and they announced today the first

785
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: Monday night football doubleheader. It's gonna happen in week two,

786
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: September nine, with two games being played at the same

787
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: time for the first time. They have been doing those

788
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: Monday night ones at seven and then ten, but the

789
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: ratings for the ten o'clock ones were not as good.

790
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: Very understandable. So now we're gonna have Tennessee at the Bills,

791
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: kicking at seven fifteen on ESPN. The Eagles will play

792
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: host to the Minnesota Vikings in the second game, starting

793
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: at eight thirty on ABC. What do you think about that? Well,

794
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: I I totally understand that because, um, even though I

795
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: live on that side of the clock, and um, that

796
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: second game was kind of in my wheelhouse, you know,

797
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: I still struggle to make it past half time. And

798
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: sometimes it was a very good game. Typically it was

799
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: always the Raiders out in Oakland and like the Broncos. Yeah, yeah,

800
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: the Broncos are the Chargers when they were in San Diego.

801
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: So it was always a pretty well contested game. Um,

802
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, a very very competitive game, exciting game. But

803
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: it was so late. So I kind of get this.

804
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: I kind of like this. I do like it, and

805
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have the ability to

806
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 1: split their screens or you can have you can watch

807
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: it exactly why not? Why not Monday? So there it is.

808
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: That's the first one that we've known. So they've leaked

809
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: some things out about a few games here there. We

810
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: have not seen the Browns yet mentioned. So our seventeen

811
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: games are still at this point not disclosed. We will

812
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: find out our home opener on Thursday at six pm,

813
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: the full schedule at eight, So if we open on

814
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: the road, or we find out, we'll find out if

815
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: we're somebody else's home opener. Maybe we'll find out two

816
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: of the games at six o'clock. There were playing some

817
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: detective work there. So the Browns opponents this year at

818
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: home Bengals, Raven Steelers in the a f C North,

819
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and Tom Brady New Orleans. I think a

820
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: very good Chargers team. Oh House divided, the Patriots come

821
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: to town, and then the Jets away, Bengals, Raven Steelers, Houston, Carolina, Atlanta,

822
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: Buffalo in a big game, Miami, and the Commanders of Washington. So,

823
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: all right, Jim, outside of the a f C North games,

824
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: what game are you looking forward to the most? Um?

825
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: I'm really I get the whole Tom Brady thing Tampa Bay,

826
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: but I'm because that Charger game was such a great

827
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: game last year and such an ouch game for us

828
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: the way that ended. Um, but that has the potential.

829
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: I love watching their guy play. I anticipated love watching

830
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: our guy play the quarterback position, but that game was

831
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: so wide open. It was unbelievable how wide open it was.

832
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable to think we had like a four teen

833
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: point lead, you know, pretty deep into the third quarter.

834
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 1: There yea chub hit a big run and we're boom,

835
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: We're off and running. And how quickly that thing turned

836
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: around and they went forward on fourth and two on

837
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: their own, like, why that's right, yeah, yeah, yeah, wait,

838
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: that's right. They and then they scored. That drive was

839
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: also on the fourth then I think it was the

840
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: fourth and seven was the last player that drive they

841
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: s So that game, I I would think, you know,

842
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: from the sheer, you know, look at how many points

843
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: that could be scored in that game and the way

844
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: they could go up and down the field. That would

845
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: be amazing. The other thing when that game would be

846
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: played would be what time of the year it will

847
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: be played. You know, the Chargers coming here is gonna

848
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 1: be later in the year where you're gonna have weather

849
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: involved in it. But if it's early in the year,

850
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: if it's a great day down there or a great

851
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: night down there, wow, the potential to see points go

852
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: on the board and that one will be amazing. And

853
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: they're going for it. I mean as they should. They

854
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: bring in Khalil Mack and J. C. Jackson, which I

855
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: was stunned at the Patriots let him walk a very

856
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: good corner there. So they they've loaded up on defense

857
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: and try to prevent some of those outbursts. But I

858
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: think that would be a great game, Uh, Tampa Bay coming.

859
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: Obviously Tom Brady should be the last time Tom Brady

860
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: ever plays at first entity should be you say that

861
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: should be? You don't know, Patriots, I know you're looking.

862
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: You gotta be looking forward to that one on the oasis.

863
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: Should definitely be looking for it for a little payback.

864
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: Was humiliating that day, and it's nothing that the Patriots

865
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: did other than they've just beat you. Okay, they came

866
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 1: out and they beat you that day. Mac Jones looked

867
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady that day, didn't he was? It was unbelieved.

868
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: Their receivers that day, Nathan Um as good as Matt

869
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: Jones was. Their receivers made five great catches in that

870
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: game that you would just go. You couldn't blame it

871
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: Denzel Award or Newsong or anybody, or Greedy Williams or anybody.

872
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: They were in position perfect to make a play. Jacobs

873
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: would catches they made. You know, Henry, if I'm not mistaken,

874
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: didn't we go down the field? We scored on fourth

875
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: down Baker to Austin Hooper And do you remember we

876
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: scored like on first down or second down, and the

877
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: ball juggled away from in Joker and then all of

878
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: a sudden you start running out of down. So now

879
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: Baker almost got picked on right and then Boomy hit

880
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 1: it on fourth down seven nothing. And then New England

881
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: they had like third and thirteen, third and kept converted

882
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: and eleven, and they kept converting and went right down

883
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: the field and scored and then they throw a pick

884
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: and that was it, literally, that was it on the

885
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,479
Speaker 1: he was throwing to his right side. Wouldn't you say

886
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: that the Chargers are in a group of teams with

887
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: the brows that absolutely kicked themselves in the backside, and say,

888
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: how the heck did we not make the playoffs last year? Oh? Yeah, Cults, okay,

889
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: us probably Baltimore, but for different reasons, right, a lot

890
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: of injuries things like that. But you take a look

891
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: at these teams like us with that talent, the Chargers

892
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: that that how they came down the stretch. Um definitely

893
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: the Cults were two layups to get in, you know,

894
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: definitely the last one at Jackson Fat Jackson walk away

895
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: and you don't You're not in, they said, Carson wentz,

896
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: You're gone, like you cannot play her anymore after that's

897
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: his exit interview was really the exit. The next day

898
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: hit the exit, hit the exit. That Chargers team is

899
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: so talented. And even the game they had with the

900
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: Raiders late in the year where it was to get

901
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. It was the last game, the last

902
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: game of the year, and Herbert was unbelievable and they lost. Yeah, yeah,

903
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: they lost, that's right. That was a wild that was

904
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,959
Speaker 1: an absolutely wild game. So that's one of the great

905
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: Sunday night games. Would probably the best. Yeah, I mean

906
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: I would put our Ravens Monday Night game a couple

907
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: of years ago. Unbelievable game where it cost fourth down. Yea,

908
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: the willis read game from Mark Jackson. But the football

909
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: part of that, for as you're you're just a football fan,

910
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: you pull up a chair on a Monday night and

911
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: people have been saying nobody watches Monday Night anymore, but boy,

912
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: you would watch that one. And that's Sunday night game.

913
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: That Raiders Chargers game with what was riding on the

914
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: game was amazing. Yeah, I've just decided based on that

915
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: comment you just made that I don't want the Ravens

916
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: at home on Monday night because I am still traumatized

917
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: from the block walk off of Travis Coton's That was

918
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: on a Monday night. When we got they returned the

919
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: block field goal right for a touchdown to walk us

920
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: off on. That was a Monday night. Was a Monday

921
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: night game? Yeah, yeah, no Monday night games, no more,

922
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: none of that. Al Right, how many primetime games You

923
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: look at the schedule and you think anybody in our

924
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: division could be a primetime game, but the rap the

925
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: Bengals defending a f C champs, the Ravens Tampa Bay here,

926
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: the Chargers here, Patriots Buffalo away absolutely, and then anybody

927
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: in our division. Way, I don't think anybody else unless

928
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: they feel compelled to do like on a Thursday night

929
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: or I was even say the return to Houston DeShawn Watson. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah.

930
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: Do you wonder what Chris do the You know, because

931
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 1: we are an appealing team nationally, but do you wonder

932
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: if there's some hesitancy right now? About putting us there,

933
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: wondering what our order back situation will be at the time.

934
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: So here's what I would think, and I could be

935
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: completely wrong about this. The NFL is making the schedule, right,

936
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: I would guess like, if our schedule shows up with

937
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: us having let's call it, three primetime games in our

938
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: first seven, I think they're saying he's not going to

939
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: be suspended now if we have no prime time games

940
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: in the first six, then I'll say, yeah, right, there

941
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: you go. I was wondering about that. I'm wondering how

942
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: they take a look at that because on paper, right now,

943
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: you say, hey, Marquee team, very good team, very competitive.

944
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: We could definitely see what you just went through on

945
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: their projected schedule. Hey put them in there. That's gonna

946
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: be a great game. That's a Marquee game, whether it's

947
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: a you know, eight thirty whatever. I keep seeing a

948
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: lot of people suggesting that we're going to play on

949
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: Christmas again. Do you think they would do? Would they

950
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: make a team play in Christmas two years in a

951
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: row where they're going to have three games? Yeah, we're

952
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: either going to play Christmas Eve. There's no way. Let

953
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: me see this. There's a chance from Monday nighter. But

954
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna play one. I don't think they're

955
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: gonna make the Browns play away on Christmas again, right,

956
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: I mean they had some sense of like decency. I

957
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: would like to be it would be the case. There's

958
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: a society after all that we're in here. Okay, alright, Jason.

959
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: If we do play on Christmas, I will have Cheryl

960
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: make the incredible shots that you know last year for postgame, Yeah,

961
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: we we had unbelievable not me what what what were

962
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: they called? What were they called? Peanut butter and jellies? Yes,

963
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that sounds delightful. Screwball with cran apple juice.

964
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:55,479
Speaker 1: It sounds delightful. Word was quite heavy. There was a sting,

965
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: there was everybody was moping around, right, and they really were,

966
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: but I mean it was a holiday. They lost. The

967
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: mathematics look very grim grim at that point for postseason.

968
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: And I went over to the bag of tricks where

969
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: normally my file folders have everybody's three deep, and pulled

970
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: out wonderful YETI thermos and I think we've really turned

971
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: it into Yeah, I think you guys were in a

972
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: much better place. An hour after that game, than the

973
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: certainly in field was very yeah, and it was an

974
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: incredible atmosphere. It just those a long, you know, a

975
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: very disappointed game that leads to a very somber bus

976
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: ride and played flight. And it was Christmas, yes, it was,

977
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: so that's where we were. I mean, it could be

978
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving night. All right, let's just we're good on holidays

979
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: for a year, That's what I think. I remember when

980
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: they did play on Thanksgiving and Barry Sanders put on.

981
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: I thought he was going to break the NFL rushing

982
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: record that day. It was up in Pontiac Up and

983
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: they played. It was Bud Carson's first year as the

984
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: head coach of the Bronze and the Bronx were rolling.

985
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: I mean they were rolling towards the division title and

986
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: they got blown out by a pretty substandard Lions team.

987
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: Imagine that. But Barry Sanders ran around them, through them,

988
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: zig zagged around there was he was well over two

989
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: yards that day. I thought he was gonna break the

990
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 1: rushing record and it started a bad trajectory for Bud

991
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: Carson's Brownze and they kind of limped into the playoffs,

992
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: albeit getting to the a f C Championship game, but

993
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: it was. It was Thanksgiving Day, and I will say this,

994
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: the Lions put on an incredible Thanksgiving meal before the game.

995
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: It was absolutely turkey when stuffing and all the fixes.

996
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 1: As they say, it was great that Christmas Eve Christmas.

997
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: There should have been a building the Browns about our

998
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve meal. Jason on Christmas Day did bring wonderful stuff.

999
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: But not with the yeah that came out of the

1000
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: Yeti thermis that sounds like the Yetie thermis. Was the

1001
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: m v P at Gerl Donovan was yeah, no doubt.

1002
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: All right when we come back our number two already

1003
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 1: an hour through main time flies when you're having fun,

1004
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: maybe we have the thermis. Who knows? Listen. It is rare.

1005
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: You don't get to do it often. So if you

1006
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: want to do it, now is the time. You can

1007
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: call two zero eight fifty for a special edition of

1008
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,480
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1009
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1010
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1011
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Speaker 1: b SDN Cleveland. Welcome in the hour number two of

1014
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily Nations the girl of the voice of

1015
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns Jim Donovan, and we're about to open up.

1016
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Speaker 1: The phone lines already full. The first Elk and Elk

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Speaker 1: a proud partner of the Cleveland Browns. Also some NFL

1020
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: news coming out of New York right now. The Giants

1021
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: as expected release Pro Bowl cornerback James Bradberry, who is

1022
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: a twenty two million dollar salary cap charge. Meeting Joe

1023
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: shown can save eleven and a half million by designating

1024
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: a post June first release. You also have one point

1025
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: for dead cap in three. Interest for the talented twenty

1026
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: eight year old pro bowler is expected to be significant,

1027
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: and I think we're gonna start to see some of

1028
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: this after the draft veterans come available and maybe move

1029
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: around the league. I don't think the Browns would be

1030
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: interested at the price point that he would require, but

1031
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: he's somebody that's going to command a lot of attention,

1032
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: and he's one of the topers in the lead I

1033
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: thought he was their best corner. Yeah, he was the

1034
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: best corner. Interesting that they are not U said they

1035
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: failed to find a trade partner to take on his contract.

1036
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: They've officially released him. He should come in a very

1037
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 1: heavy market in Yeah, apparently. So all right, let's go. Now,

1038
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: let's do it, give it, let's bring them in, give

1039
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: a calls. Are you ready for this? I hope Madison's ready.

1040
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: She's running the board today for the first time. Good luck,

1041
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: Good luck, Madison. Have the dump button ready, and if

1042
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: we need to dump, just interrupt the segment and tell

1043
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: us that you've dumped, so that way I don't go

1044
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: to another phone call. So though, all right, those are

1045
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: the rules. Yeah, try to keep it clean, folks. Yeah,

1046
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: come on, this is listen. It's on you. We're giving

1047
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: you an opportunity. We wanted to happen again. We've got

1048
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: to be good. The last time it worked out just fine.

1049
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: It was great. Let's we'll see here. You can also

1050
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: tweet us your questions here at Brown's Underscore Daily using

1051
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: the hashtag ask CBD Craig in South Carolina to lead

1052
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: us off. Craig, you were on Cleveland Brown's Daily with

1053
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura and Jim Donovan. Hey, Nathan and Jimmy. This

1054
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: is Craig calling from North Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. I'm

1055
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: so excited about the Browns. I've been a Browns fan

1056
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: since nine and I got to watch Jim Brown play

1057
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: and I loved them ever since. I lived and grew

1058
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: up in Canton, Ohio. Uh, just live and die the Browns.

1059
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: But I wanted to first congratulate you, Nathan. I'm being

1060
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: selected to be the color competator. Thank you and are

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00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: the absolute best at what you do us very pleasant

1062
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: to travel around the country. Uh. Since leaving Canton, and

1063
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: I've watched other commentators and you were by far the best.

1064
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: So you a what question? What think that you talked

1065
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: about earlier is where our night draft pick that uh,

1066
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: those come led with the roster that we have currently

1067
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: pretty well stacked, and I'm really excited about what we

1068
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: have going. Uh. The one thing I didn't hear anybody

1069
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: to talk about was what ultimately should happen to Baker Mayfield?

1070
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: And do you think that part of the strategy would

1071
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: be all these picks that we would package Baker and

1072
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: some players that help move him to another team? You know,

1073
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: I wondered about that on the opening night of the draft.

1074
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: What was going on maybe, And I don't know how

1075
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: serious it was, it was percolating on that opening night,

1076
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: that Thursday night, and certainly Friday night, when a lot

1077
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 1: of people were saying, Okay, Caroline has made their pick

1078
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 1: the night before it's six, didn't take a quarterback. Here

1079
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 1: we go. Um, And I was wondering even when they

1080
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: selected the defensive back right away. I thought, maybe maybe

1081
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: there's a deal here where there somebody that's currently on

1082
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: the roster, maybe a deep two back he's going page deal.

1083
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 1: But it doesn't seem it's It's still seems Craig like

1084
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: the thing that might be hanging the whole deal up

1085
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: is not the package. It's the contract and how that's

1086
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: gonna be divvied up, and and if it's going to

1087
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: be divvied up at all, and how firm the Browns

1088
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: are gonna stand to getting a deal without having to

1089
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: eat a lot of that, if if any of it.

1090
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: And I think you're exactly right, it comes down to

1091
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: that contract situation. And and look, eighteen point nine or

1092
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: nineteen million will call it for a starting quarterback in

1093
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is, without question, I think one of the

1094
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: thirty two best quarterbacks on the planet. Is not actually

1095
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: a lot but teams. I think maybe because it's the

1096
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: last year of his deal, there has been some turmoil

1097
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: around him that they're not guaranteed to have the investment

1098
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: extend beyond this year. They're not comfortable yet making an

1099
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: extension beyond this year, and so that becomes a thing now,

1100
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: I will say, coming out of the draft due to

1101
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: some of their maneuverings, the Browns have two threes, two

1102
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: fours and two fives next year because they have an

1103
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: extra a third from Quaisio Dolo Menza becoming the general

1104
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: manager of the Minnesota Vikings. They picked up an extra

1105
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: fourth in a trade with Quasio Doo Mensa and the

1106
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, and then they picked up the extra fifth

1107
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: for next year in the Troy Hill deal. So if

1108
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: if you're looking, do we have a pick that we

1109
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: can say, Oh, here's a future pick we picked up

1110
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: that we could throw into maybe sweet in the pot. Yes,

1111
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: that's possible. Um, we'll see. I think that the Browns

1112
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: right now are being patient with it. I think that

1113
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: there is a thought that on some level right that

1114
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 1: in a word, we'll call it a worst case scenario

1115
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: that you would say, Okay, there isn't a market for

1116
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: him at all. I don't see the Browns releasing him

1117
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: because all that if you release him, all you would

1118
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: get offset is what he signs for, and he signs

1119
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: for the minimum, so you're not saving anything. It's almost

1120
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: better to eat that extra you know, million or so

1121
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: at the end of it and say he's here, he'll

1122
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: leave in free agency. He at least then goes into

1123
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: the compensatory pick equation based on what he signs, or

1124
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: could be as high as the three. Probably unlikely because

1125
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: these things cancel each other out when you sign people.

1126
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 1: But they're not in a position where the Browns are

1127
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: forced to necessarily do anything, and we have a very

1128
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: patient group running things. I think that everybody would, if

1129
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: they were you know, would want this to be resolved quickly.

1130
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: I think it's best for the Browns. I think it's

1131
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: best for Baker Mayfield, uh, certainly to get somewhere and

1132
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: get into his new playbook so that he has a

1133
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: chance to go and be successful and kind of recapch

1134
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: the momentum at But yeah, it's it's one of those

1135
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: things that you had hoped it happened over draft weekend

1136
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: and it did not, and now there's no clear path

1137
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: necessarily for it to happen. Well, optimistically speaking, when it happens, okay,

1138
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 1: optimistically saying it happens, and like you said, for everybody,

1139
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: everybody involved. It will be interesting to see if the

1140
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: team that he ends up going to will say, hey,

1141
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 1: let's let's do a deal right to get away from

1142
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: like you said, the one year rental and he becomes

1143
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,959
Speaker 1: a free agent, and how open minded he would be

1144
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: to making a deal or does he say, hey, listen,

1145
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: you owe me be eighteen. I'm gonna get eighteen point

1146
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: eight whatever this year. Then I'm gonna go into free

1147
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: agency and I'm gonn bet on myself, which he has

1148
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: a lot in his career, and right because how would he.

1149
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: So there are two scenarios somebody who trades for him

1150
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: where he is going to be a starter or compete

1151
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,959
Speaker 1: for a starting job, and those feel like there aren't

1152
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: as many realistic options as there were before. Like you

1153
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: could say, in Carolina, could he still go in there

1154
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: and compete, but they would have Donald, they would have him.

1155
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: They just traded up to get Matt Corral, So that

1156
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: feels unlikely. Seattle still makes the most sense, but publicly anyway,

1157
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: they have been saying that that is not something that

1158
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: they are interested in at this time. So, and Jimmy

1159
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: Garoppolo is still out there, and how the reports are

1160
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: the Trey Lance is not where they were hoping. So

1161
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: I think Jimmy Garoppolo coming back and playing for the

1162
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: forty Niners also feels likely. The other scenario would be

1163
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: somebody who has got a very established starting quarterback but

1164
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: doesn't have much in the backup says we'll bring you

1165
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: in maybe as a succession. Maybe Tampa Bay says, Brady's

1166
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: got another year, then you could come in and he

1167
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: you're here in case he gets hurt. Now they like

1168
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: the kid they drafted, Kyle Trask. I believe it's his name.

1169
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: Could the Rams do that? I don't think many people

1170
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: can name the rams backup quarterback Pine Matt Stafford. I

1171
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: don't know. And the Rams don't have a lot of

1172
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: capital or anything to throw around. But where he ends

1173
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: up in the scenario in which he ends up will

1174
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: be interesting, and that would relate itself to the kind

1175
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: of contract he would sign going forward, because my guests

1176
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: would be that in either of those types of situations,

1177
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 1: nobody's like him into anything more than he's currently making.

1178
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: I'd imagine it'd be less than he's currently making. And

1179
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: so is he willing to do that or is he saying,

1180
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: let me hopefully something happens. I play, I play well,

1181
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: and now I can try to get more and that's himself.

1182
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: It is alright, alright, Craig, thank you so much. By

1183
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: the way, do you know's Pancake House and the Scheck

1184
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: in North Myrtle Beach if you're going there too, fantastic

1185
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: little places? Uh. Stephen on Twitter, your knowledge is unbelievable.

1186
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: At Brown's Underscore Daily using the hashtag, asks CBD, do

1187
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: you think it's time for the Browns to look at

1188
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: building a new stadium or just keep modifying slash upgrading

1189
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: the current one? Would think it would be necessary for

1190
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: what would be necessary for the new one? Think we

1191
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: all know we need a dome or retractable roof. I

1192
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: know this is something we talked about a lot here

1193
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: in the offseason. Location is going to be very critical

1194
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: and whole from the whole thing. If you win, if

1195
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: you win and win big, and I'm talking about on

1196
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: the field. If you win and win big, your bargaining

1197
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: power is unbelievable to get whatever you want. You want

1198
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: a new stadium, you know, I mean Buffalo got good.

1199
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: I mean for years and years and years that place

1200
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: was decrepit and they did a new stadium, and yeah

1201
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: it was charming, but I mean they needed a new stadium.

1202
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: And then finally they get to this level and they're

1203
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna get a new stadium. Right. I think when you're really,

1204
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: really good, you get what you want. When the Patriots,

1205
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,479
Speaker 1: well they're they're they're bad, example, because their owner built

1206
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: their own place. But I think that's what happens. So

1207
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: I think we're a long way away from that of

1208
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: getting it. I could certainly see it down the road

1209
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: because I think you can only modify so much when

1210
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: it becomes obsolete. And I don't know that we're at

1211
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: the stage you're being obsolete. But I do believe if

1212
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: you become this team that you're playing in huge games

1213
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: and you're winning those games and you're a championship team,

1214
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,919
Speaker 1: I think everyone says, whatever you want. Let me ask

1215
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: you this, Yeah, would your preference be take roster out

1216
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: of it? And then I'll ask it with Depending on

1217
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: your answer, I'll ask the question for given our roster,

1218
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: take roster out of it. Would you want Cleveland to

1219
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: always remain open air? Would you entertain the idea of

1220
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: a dome? What do you what do you think? If

1221
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: we're starting from scratch, I'm saying I think I would UM.

1222
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind a retractable roof. I really wouldn't um.

1223
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: I get the whole thing about us, But you get

1224
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: over that when you get comfortable. I did go to

1225
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: a game when I first got into radio. I was

1226
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: working in Minnesota, and I did go to a game

1227
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: at the Old met when the Vikings were playing the

1228
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: Bears with Tommy Kranery quarterback. It was it was great

1229
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: and everything, and Bud Grant was really something to see,

1230
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: you know, in which and the Vikings had no under

1231
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: sleeves underneath their game jerseys and it was great and

1232
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: it was macho is m But that stadium that we

1233
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: went into last year was plush and it was fantastic, amazing.

1234
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: So I would give up. I would I would like

1235
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: comfort at some point, and I get I get the

1236
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: tradition and everything, so and then I would take to

1237
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: take the next step to that, and I think it

1238
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: were technically great, cause I think it'd be great to

1239
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: play outdoor football when we can. But we played some games,

1240
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: especially even had three games in a row that were

1241
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: hardly games because of the weather conditions that were dreadful,

1242
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: and so it would be nice to eliminate that. The

1243
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: other thing is now for the first time, you know,

1244
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,959
Speaker 1: maybe ever, you know, since certainly since Bernie Bryant type

1245
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: was the m D P and eight. Since then, we

1246
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: have a quarterback who is last season he played league

1247
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: led the NFL in passing yards. I complete seventy of

1248
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: his passes. And you can run a very pass air

1249
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: oriented attack. And and if you want to get I'm

1250
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 1: guessing the maximum out of DeShawn Wi's career, it would

1251
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: probably be who view to play the majority of your

1252
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: game and good elements. So does that factor into your decisions? Yeah,

1253
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: I do. I think it does. But I also think

1254
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: that I think people would really like the comfort factor.

1255
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: I think we have gotten into that a little bit more.

1256
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: I think people like that. I think they like I

1257
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: think they like going to a place and and really

1258
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: saying it is a stadium, but it's also a place

1259
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: of entertainment. And they want to be entertained. They want

1260
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: to be comfortable, comfortably, right, doesn't it look we can

1261
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: steal from the Vikings, have no problem. You want to

1262
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: be in the snow, will drop fake snow on you.

1263
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: They had plenty of fake snow dropping one when we

1264
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: came out. When we came on the air that afternoon,

1265
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: it was literally snowing indoors. They have this effect where

1266
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: they send down snowflakes, and hey, it's great. It was

1267
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: a lot better than Actually, I can tell you that

1268
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: place was beautiful. I think it's the best stadium in

1269
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: the n I would agree. And we went and folks,

1270
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: don't forget we played preseason in Atlanta and the Mercedes,

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Speaker 1: which was very nice but feels like just a monstrous dome. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we were in l A, which is again nice, but

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Speaker 1: there's Minnesota's intimate. It's comfortable, it's beautiful, the shape is cool,

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Speaker 1: that any every everything about that place I just thought

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Speaker 1: was it was pretty specially it was all right, guys,

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Speaker 1: back to the hotline, we go, Eugene calling us Eugene.

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Speaker 1: You are on with Nathan Tigura and Jim Donovan on

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's Daily. Hey, good afternoon, guys, thanks for taking

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Speaker 1: my call. And it's too bad that we can't call

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Speaker 1: in anymore for a couple of idiots, man, you know,

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01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: because we literally have that. Some of the fairs literally

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Speaker 1: have you know, questions that they can't get answered that

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01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: you guys might not have getting through. So thanks for

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Speaker 1: taking the call to day. You got a two part

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Speaker 1: question here with Nick Harris. I know he's uh, he's

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Speaker 1: a little slight and hike and I like him too,

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Speaker 1: And I heard you guys said that he's really working

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Speaker 1: out hard, and I know, um, there was a couple

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Speaker 1: of games last year, Um he was literally getting man

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Speaker 1: handled or it was either last year before the last

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Speaker 1: it was yeah, man, and I'm like, man, and he's

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Speaker 1: playing out of position right right. He looked like he

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01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: was a little slight, just far upper fight. I just

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Speaker 1: want to know if you guys have have visibly seen

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Speaker 1: him getting stronger. Um. I know he's got pretty long arms,

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Speaker 1: which is good in past protection. But I know when

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Speaker 1: you've got long arms, it's hard to get a strong

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Speaker 1: bench press or whatever. So let me answer that one

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Speaker 1: real quick and then they'll do a second one. So, yes,

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Speaker 1: Nick Harris has been in here working his butt off.

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Speaker 1: And I would urge you, Eugene, to watch the latest

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Speaker 1: edition of Building the Browns, which you can get on

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Speaker 1: the Browns app or YouTube dot com slash Browns, and

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Speaker 1: there's actually a full segment on Nick Harris and his

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Speaker 1: commitment to his strength training and putting on the muscle

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01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: and with the strength trainers from the Browns talking about

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Speaker 1: his work and actually showing somebody. So he's put on

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Speaker 1: they said seventeen pounds of muscle this offseason alone to

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Speaker 1: get stronger to do that. So yeah, Nick Harris is

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Speaker 1: definitely taking very serious about the commitment take bettering his body.

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Speaker 1: What is he a height wise? About six one or

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01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 1: six ft? I know he's not that at all. No,

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Speaker 1: he is shorter on the center side of things. He's

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Speaker 1: got a little low center of gravity, but he's got

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Speaker 1: tremendous movement skills. I think he's about six too, which

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01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: is still for a center, is not the tallest center.

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Speaker 1: But okay, okay. And the second course is pretty much

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Speaker 1: the same one everyone else has been asking about. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Jaman Clowney, what's the likelihood are we looking seventy fifty?

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Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? No, I mean I hope he comes

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Speaker 1: back because man, if he comes back that a kind

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Speaker 1: of old defense man, it really would Thanks last week

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Speaker 1: last week good questions. Uh, last week was like the

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Speaker 1: first week I've read of other teams possibly being interested

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Speaker 1: in him. Um, everything else has been quiet, and UM,

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Speaker 1: you know, Eugene, Probably the best people that could tell

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Speaker 1: you what the percentage is of him coming back here

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Speaker 1: are the current members of the Bronze of the Bronze team,

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Speaker 1: because I think they communicate with him a great deal.

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, all those other guys on the defense you

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01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: guys had John Johnson on did you last week? Um,

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Speaker 1: they could probably tell you best because I think that

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01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: they really wanted him back. Everybody wants, everybody wants, and

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Speaker 1: I think he wants to come back. I think he

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01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: is a guy that is in no rush to do anything,

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Speaker 1: and it is maybe waiting and seeing is there a

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Speaker 1: possibility that somebody goes down somewhere that would allow me

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01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: to get a big paid a because the first wave

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01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 1: of free agent, second way of free agent, they've come

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01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: and gone, and teams have now drafted and they filled

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01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: in a lot of those needs. And so clearly the

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Speaker 1: money that he was initially looking for that would have

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01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,439
Speaker 1: made him say Okay, it's worth it to play somewhere

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01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: else has not materialized. I think he likes playing with

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Speaker 1: the Browns. I think he likes playing opposite Miles Garrett

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Speaker 1: quite a bit. He was very productive last year. The

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Speaker 1: Browns were very productive when he was on the field,

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01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: pass rush win rate with Clowne on the field which

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01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: was best in the league. So I do think that

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Speaker 1: he wants come back. If you're asking me personally, I

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01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: would put it ads sixty three percent. I believe it

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01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: is twice as likely that he comes back to the

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Speaker 1: Browns as I as not. But it's certainly it's not

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01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 1: far from a lock, right, I mean, so that's how

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Speaker 1: I feel about Well, I think the other thing, don't

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01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: you know? You could get worried about that he's not here,

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01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: but also be a little bit encourage that he's not

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01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: somewhere else. Right. And I know that what I'm about

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01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: to say sounds like so obvious, But every day that

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Speaker 1: goes on that he doesn't sign somewhere else and makes

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Speaker 1: it more likely than he's a Cleveland Brown. And obviously

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Speaker 1: if he signed somewhere else that there'll be no chance

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Speaker 1: to be clean Brown. But that's how I feel that

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Speaker 1: we appreciate the calls an hold, we may maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: bring him back. Maybe, Okay, if we get a little

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Speaker 1: shorter with the interview. It seems like we just got started.

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Speaker 1: Well we got to we started at two oh four. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Matt Miller is going to join us here in a

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Speaker 1: few minutes, so I want to make sure we get

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Speaker 1: to him. Okay, alright, Well, when we come back, Matt

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Speaker 1: Miller ESPN NFL Draft Analyst joins to talk about the

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Speaker 1: Browns draft one more time here on ESPN Cleveland eight

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Speaker 1: dot com slash events we go the hotline. Now we

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Speaker 1: welcome in Matt Miller, ESPN NFL Draft Analyst. Matt, thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us here today. I appreciate you guys having

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Speaker 1: me on. Thanks so much. You got all right. The

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01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 1: Browns did not have a first round pick. They traded

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01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: out of the second round. But we know this draft

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Speaker 1: really includes Deshaun Watson Amari Cooper. Some of the assets

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Speaker 1: were given up to acquire those guys. But as you

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Speaker 1: look at this team, look at the roster, what do

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Speaker 1: you think overall of the job that Andrew Barry and

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01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: company did here in the NFL draft. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: it's very impressive. And I think, of course, my dog's

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01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: gonna barker since I started talking. I think it's really impressive,

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Speaker 1: like this would be the time to have that happen.

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Speaker 1: That's right, right, right, doing Brown's radio. Right, he's although

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01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 1: he's like a twenty pound French bull, it's not even

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01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: an intimidating anyway. So the Browns roster, I think again

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Speaker 1: adding MARII Cooper at in obviously Deshaun Watson was crazy guys.

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Speaker 1: Last summer, I remember writing that the Browns roster had

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Speaker 1: very few actual holes. And I remember a year ago,

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Speaker 1: you know, coming off a playoff birth, it was like

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Speaker 1: Baker was a long term answer. It was really a

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Speaker 1: roster that there there weren't a lot of question marks,

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Speaker 1: and I think that is even more true now, albeit

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01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: with a true franchise quarterback guy who's the last time

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01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: we saw him, it was one of the three or

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01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: four best quarterbacks in football, and that was with the

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01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 1: situation in Houston where he didn't have the supporting cast

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Speaker 1: that he has. Inklely, when you know you didn't have

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Speaker 1: an Amari Cooper, we didn't have the offensive line that

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01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: the Cleveland has, so definitely not the run game. So

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Speaker 1: I think you're be excited about that. So when you

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Speaker 1: factor that in and you're going to the draft, you know,

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Speaker 1: pick until the third round. But I feel like they

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01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: walked away with guys who can contribute right away at

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01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: positions of need. You know, Martin Emerson kids could potentially

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01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: work into that mixed opposite Denzel Ward, you know where

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01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: we haven't quite seen guys like Greedy Williams take that

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01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: step that we thought they might come out of college.

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01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 1: Wouldn't be surprised if Martin Emerson ends up that other

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Speaker 1: starting corner. I think you can say the same thing

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Speaker 1: for Alex right opposite Miles Garrett's Chase win of it's

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01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: gonna take that role. Is there a chance for a

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Speaker 1: guy like Clowney to come back on a on a

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Speaker 1: veteran deal. I wouldn't be surprised if we see both

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Speaker 1: Alex Right and Perry win Free push their way into

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Speaker 1: at least a heavy use in a rotation. Well, let

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Speaker 1: me ask you this. When they did finally pick and

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Speaker 1: they got out of the second round when they did pick,

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Speaker 1: were you surprised that their first pick would have been

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Speaker 1: a defense it back. I wasn't. Um, maybe some folks were.

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Speaker 1: I thought it would need to be defensive end or

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Speaker 1: defensive back. That was kind of the intel that was

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Speaker 1: out there. Um. So, looking at kind of the way

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Speaker 1: the board had fallen, I truly believed at that time

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Speaker 1: Martin Emerson, Um, other than the Kobe Dean, he was

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Speaker 1: my best player available at that time. So the way

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Speaker 1: my board kind of stacked up, it was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is a this is a good pick for them.

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Speaker 1: I think it's also a very good pick for the scheme.

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Speaker 1: You know, to have somebody who's six two turns a pound,

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Speaker 1: has great lengths. Uh. No, he didn't have on ball

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01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: production in college. He just had one pick. But you

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01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: could see, you know, pass breakups, passing defense, that was

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01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: all there. And so opposite Denzel Award who's fantastic, but

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01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: not the biggest guy. I think you want someone like

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01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: this who was a little more physically gifted. So you

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01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: liked Emerson alive coming out of Mississippi State. You mentioned

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01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: Alex Wright as well, out of Alabama Birmingham, big defensive end.

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Speaker 1: What did you like about him? And he's somebody that

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01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: the Browns were thrilled to get. Yeah, man, I think

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01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: the first thing you notice is links. Like I remember

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01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: the first time I seeing him in person was just

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01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: like my goodness, you know. And he looks bigger than

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01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,600
Speaker 1: two seventy, you know, So it was like, okay, is

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01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: this a guy who could potentially bump inside. I'll pass

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01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 1: down someone who you know is only gonna play outside.

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Speaker 1: But I think he has the athleticism to flash off

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01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: the edge even you know. And that link definitely shows

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01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: up on tape when you start to evaluate him. It's like, hey,

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01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: let's he uses that link very well to keep blockers

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Speaker 1: off this frame. Obviously he's not been super tested coming

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01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: out of U. A. B. But where you have now

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01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: you kind of have the smaller, speedier guy in Winovich.

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01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: This is a contrast that you've got the longer, more

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01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 1: powerful guy who does have some does have some speed

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01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 1: you know to bend and and you know cross space

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01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: of offensive tackles. Um, it's just I think for Alex

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Speaker 1: it's just about probably getting a little bit stronger in

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01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: terms of his play strength and then also just you know,

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01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: learning how to put all those tools together to become

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01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: a more complete pass rusher. Some mettum. This was a

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Speaker 1: draft going in that had incredible talent at wide receiver

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Speaker 1: and it went off the board in a flurry in

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Speaker 1: the first round, and then some some more in the

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Speaker 1: second round, and the Brown sent up with David Bell

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Speaker 1: in the third round. What did you think of him

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01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: and what do you think he'll be as a Brown?

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Speaker 1: And I think he's a starter as a slought receiver

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01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: in my opinion. He was a tough player to evaluate

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01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 1: because you watched the tape over the course of his

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Speaker 1: career and you could get pretty excited about it. You

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01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 1: know what he does as a route runner, the way

1482
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: he attacks the ball. But then obviously, you know you

1483
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 1: get a four, six, five and the forty at a

1484
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: combine that was historically fast. That worries you a little bit.

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01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, okays, the separation gonna be there's

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01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: gonna be able to run himself open like he did

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Speaker 1: at Perdu But I think he's you know, a fantastic catcher,

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01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, of the football. Just in terms of breaking routes,

1489
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: slant routes, he's gonna be good at that, you know,

1490
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: of almost an old school possession receiver. I think the

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01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: biggest question would just be Canny get himself open, you know,

1492
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: because he has the body control, He definitely has the

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01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: post catchability that we saw on tape. The only reason

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01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: he's available, you know he's at is because of the

1495
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: poor forty time. But I would not be surprised if

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01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: if he learns the playbook quickly, if we see him

1497
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: working there with Amari Cooper, with Dinard People's shoes, to

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01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 1: become you know, one of the primary targets. Yeah, I

1499
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: think that's the hope. Clearly, Kevin Stefanski is very excited

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01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: about him. That's what they did in the third round.

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01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: You go into the fourth round, uh and two picks

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01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:21,879
Speaker 1: that I think a lot of people I know internally

1503
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: are excited about. It. Felt like I got pretty good reviews.

1504
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 1: Perry and Winfrey, the defensive tackle lot of Oklahoma, who

1505
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: is quite a character and has some serious athletic juice

1506
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: and then Kad York the kicker out of l s U.

1507
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 1: What did you think about the way that the Browns

1508
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: went there in the fourth round. You know, people will

1509
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 1: make fun and drafting a kicker, but your draft, I

1510
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,759
Speaker 1: mean it's a surefire starter, you know, like getting owner

1511
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: in the middle of the fourth round is how I

1512
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 1: look at it. And especially I tweeted this during the draft,

1513
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 1: Um that a team I spoke to they had a

1514
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 1: higher grade on Kay York than they did on Van

1515
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 1: McPherson out of Florida last year, who's now a single.

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01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: So the respect k York. I don't spend a lot

1517
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: of time scouting kickers and not gonna lie. I have

1518
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: people I talk to who knows what they're looking at

1519
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: and say, hey, what do you think is And folks thought,

1520
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: he's you know, really really good. Um, so I liked

1521
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: that pick Perry Winfrey. I think the key is like

1522
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 1: you have to almost teach him to control his aggression

1523
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: a little bit, which is that you'd rather have. I

1524
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: think you'd rather have a guy that you have to

1525
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 1: tell the slowdown, then I have a guy that you

1526
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 1: have to tell the speed up, So I like that

1527
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 1: from him. You know, he's he's disruptive in the Big twelve.

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01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: You know, his his past rush win rate was fantastic.

1529
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: The athleticism is there. I think he's a player who

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01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 1: definitely could be a better pro than he was collegiate,

1531
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: even because the tools are all there. I think it's

1532
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: just getting someone to rein him in a little bit,

1533
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 1: you know. Is it an amazing Matt. We go through

1534
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: all of these pics, okay, and the Bronze ended up

1535
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: with nine guys coming in and you just touched on it,

1536
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 1: and we've talked about it before here on the show.

1537
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: The kicker will be the most immediate impact. I mean,

1538
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: it's opening day and you're in a tight game and

1539
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 1: you're going to be going to Cade York going out

1540
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 1: there to try and win a game. Now, he either

1541
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: does it or he becomes public enemy number one pretty quickly,

1542
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 1: you know, in Cleveland or in any other town. But

1543
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 1: it is amazing how this kid will become an immediate

1544
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: important part of the puzzle for the Browns every Sunday afternoon. Yeah.

1545
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: And the weird thing or not weird thing, the good

1546
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 1: thing about Cade York is he's also punted. He's been

1547
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 1: the kickoff guy at l s U and I believe

1548
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,560
Speaker 1: he holds the record for fifty yard giggles at L

1549
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 1: s U. Yeah, that's a lot of so Also, like

1550
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 1: obviously going from Baton Rouster Cleveland a little bit, different environment,

1551
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: different elements that you're gonna have to do it. But

1552
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 1: I would be encouraged by someone who has the strength,

1553
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 1: the accuracy and you know, the versatility even of like hey,

1554
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 1: if we need we need to get a punt and

1555
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 1: a pinch, he can do it and do it at

1556
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 1: a high level. Man. I was reading the one that

1557
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 1: you did with Jordan read where he kind of went

1558
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 1: through your favorite picks of all the different rounds, and

1559
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 1: I know that Isaiah Thomas, who the Browns got and

1560
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: the seventh perion and free teammate out of Oklahoma on

1561
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 1: that line, was one that you liked. What what are

1562
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 1: we getting in him? Other than obviously a tremendous name

1563
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,759
Speaker 1: named after the great Detroit Piston, what are we getting

1564
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 1: in him as a player? And he's somebody do you

1565
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 1: that you think because it's different here now, these fifth,

1566
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,879
Speaker 1: six seventh rounders are not locks to make a football

1567
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 1: team with the Cleveland Browns anymore like they used to be.

1568
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: But Thomas seems to be a guy who stands out

1569
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 1: to you is what does he bring the table? Yeah,

1570
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 1: I think athleticism at the past searchers spot, you know,

1571
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 1: kind of like we talked about Alex Right as a

1572
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: player who maybe would have been called the tweener in

1573
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 1: the past. I think I Saiah Thomas is more of

1574
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 1: your pure speed rusher, you know, he's he's got all

1575
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 1: the births that you need to to beat people off

1576
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: the snap, uses his hands well. Um, And also I'm

1577
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: a Texas fan, so I had to watch this guy

1578
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: just kill us. He's so good at getting his hands

1579
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: up and either taking away passing windows or batting the

1580
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 1: ball down like he's just he shows that kind of

1581
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 1: you know football I q of, Okay, I can't get

1582
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 1: to the quarterback, but I'm going to make his life

1583
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: hell at the line of scrimmage in a way. You know.

1584
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: So that's one of my favorite things. I could not

1585
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: believe he was available in the seventh round. I thought

1586
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 1: for sure he would be, you know, a fifth round

1587
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:11,600
Speaker 1: pick at worst. So it's just it's fantastic value, you know.

1588
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have to get a little bit

1589
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: better against the run. But like, okay, I'll take that

1590
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 1: in the seventh round. Let's just let him put the

1591
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: gears back and and be you know, a depth piece

1592
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 1: at defensive end, Matt. What about the running back? The

1593
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: Browns guy a Cincinnati the kid Ford comes in here.

1594
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 1: He had played at Alabama. He went to Alabama that

1595
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: he ended up at Cincinnati. Boy, Cincinnati had a lot

1596
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: of kids drafted. They were they were legit in this draft.

1597
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. This guy comes to a

1598
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: team that's got Nick Chubb, they've got Kareem Hunt, they've

1599
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 1: got de Ernest Johnson. Um, what what can we look

1600
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 1: for from him? Yeah? I was surprised that they used

1601
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,600
Speaker 1: the draft pick on the running back. Actually, that was

1602
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: really the only move they made where I was like, okay, well,

1603
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: what is there more to the story here? The r No,

1604
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 1: But I think with your own foward, he's a great

1605
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: receiver out of the back then, so he does bring

1606
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: a skill set that's a little different. I think. You know,

1607
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: Nick and Kaream, if you just ask them to line

1608
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: up and run, you're not like, oh my gosh, they're

1609
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 1: super fast. Now they do run away from people, but

1610
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: you know they're they're time speed, especially Cream Hunt time

1611
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 1: speed maybe not as impressive. So I think it drawn Bards.

1612
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 1: You're getting more of like a slasher who can also

1613
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 1: be a really good receiver out of the backfield. So

1614
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm seeing. And also, you know a

1615
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,759
Speaker 1: guy who's going to be faster than the four fives

1616
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 1: that were that were you know, run by Nick Chubb

1617
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 1: and Cream Hunt. So I think it is more of that,

1618
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 1: more of a diversity in the backfield. He is different.

1619
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 1: You know, if they had drafted someone that was more

1620
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: similar to Cream Hunt and Nick Chubb, I think that

1621
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: you price scratch your head even more. But man, he's

1622
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 1: good as a receiver. I know there were teams that

1623
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 1: even thought if he worked at it, he could probably

1624
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 1: be a slot receiver if you if you wanted to

1625
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 1: be so, I would say, he's your you know, third

1626
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 1: down option that can spell the other running backs and

1627
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:58,719
Speaker 1: be that receiver out of the backfield. Matt, we appreciate

1628
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 1: time talk with Matt Miller, p n NFL Draft Analyst

1629
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,480
Speaker 1: will leave you with this one. What was your favorite

1630
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 1: pick that was made by Andrew Barry In this draft. Honestly,

1631
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: I think it was probably Perry and Winfrey, just because

1632
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: he has the potential to be a very impactful three

1633
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 1: technique and especially like we're talking about, like you has

1634
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 1: mentioned a team that didn't pick until the you know,

1635
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: early hundreds, um so, or excuse me that the late sixties, yeah,

1636
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 1: um so to get I think players that no rookie starters.

1637
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 1: I don't think Cade York, but guys who have developmental traits,

1638
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 1: and Perry Winfrey does. He to me, he does have

1639
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 1: that three technique quickness. As I said, it's just about

1640
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 1: getting him dialed down a little bit, which I'll take

1641
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: any day of the week. Matt, we appreciate the time

1642
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 1: very much. Thanks for the great coverage and for for

1643
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: sharing some knowledge with us here today on Clean Brown's Daily.

1644
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:51,879
Speaker 1: Absolutely thank you guys. Alright, Matt Miller there from ESPN.

1645
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 1: Still so much more to come. But before we do that,

1646
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 1: I want to remind you that if you're gambling without

1647
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: setting limits on how much you're going to wager or

1648
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: how long you'll play, it's like a Foot Paul team

1649
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 1: going into the game without a game plan, probably gonna

1650
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 1: end up in a loss. So always set limits before

1651
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: you bet get more tips like this and keep it

1652
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: fun Ohio dot com. So much more to come, maybe

1653
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: even a call, I don't know, we'll see clean Brown's

1654
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: Daily eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Brown's Daily on e

1655
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 1: s p N Cleveland. All right, wrapping it up here

1656
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: on this Monday, Nathan and the voice of the Cleveland

1657
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,799
Speaker 1: Browns Jim Dodd. And then before we get there, real quickly,

1658
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 1: great tweet comes out from the Yoki brothers. And remember

1659
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 1: the confrontation between the Morris Twins and the Yokich brothers,

1660
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: and there's potentially some beef there. Apparently it's been leaf

1661
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 1: that Nikola Yokich is gonna win the m v P again.

1662
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 1: So so his brother tweets out, thank you to the

1663
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: NBA for m v P for my brother Nikola at

1664
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: Keith Morris, tagging one of the Morris twins cry you

1665
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:13,799
Speaker 1: never get m v P exclamation points and tremendous yeah, stiff,

1666
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 1: All right, we got a couple of quick minutes Bobby

1667
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 1: in Canton, quick and you're on with Ah, gentlemen, how's

1668
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 1: it going? Good? Is this the Bobby? This is oh?

1669
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: Oh baby, let's go, let's go. So I've been be TwixT?

1670
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 1: Which questions to ask the past fifty minutes? Fantastic hired Bobby,

1671
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: you get one question, already dropped up a TwixT. You

1672
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 1: already dropped up a TwixT on you, Gibbe, I don't acknowledge.

1673
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 1: Go ahead, So what is the best story that you

1674
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: have from a wedding? Is the best story that we've

1675
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: had from a wedding? Sometimes came and asked me and

1676
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: Bobby Meckling is a tremendous question. The type of a guy?

1677
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 1: I have one for me, which is probably I think

1678
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: the funniest. But I was at a wedding no names please,

1679
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 1: asked where the groom felt compelled after everybody did their

1680
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 1: speeches to take the microphone and while acknowledging that he

1681
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 1: had now entered into a lifelong union, he took the

1682
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 1: microphone and needed everybody in attendance to know that before

1683
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 1: he decided to get married, he used to be a

1684
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: player and was able to have a lot of girlfriends

1685
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 1: prior to this. So, just in case you're wondering if

1686
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: he's settling down because he had no other options, no, nay,

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01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: he used to do all right, I have to go

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01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 1: back to my wedding gonna points Christopher's in Rocky River,

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01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 1: and um, I remember being very nervous, you know, pregame

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01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: of the before the ceremony, and I saw a friend

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01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: of mine from Boston who had traveled to to be

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01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: at the wedding. I was very appreciative of it, very

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01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 1: excited to see him. And I was so flustered to

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01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 1: see him. Hey, are you doing it like that? I

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01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 1: turned around and I took down the statue of Jesus Christ,

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01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 1: our Lord this and my mother was in the front row,

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01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 1: devout Catholic and you go, oh my god, God, Jimmy, well,

1698
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 1: what you're going to get into the like was it

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01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:43,520
Speaker 1: a quick recovery? Literally? Christ is falling as he's going down, okay,

1700
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 1: and I pull out almost like an omar of a

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01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 1: scaled trap at shortstop on a bad hop. And I

1702
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 1: pulled Christ just feet from the floor because he would

1703
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: have been all over the floor because the floor was

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01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:01,679
Speaker 1: like marble, hard boom. I saved Jesus Christ and bring

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01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: him back. That's even more. And the wedding, Yeah, I

1706
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 1: was gonna say it could have got a lot. Oh man,

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01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: is there video of this? No, this just pret video

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01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: that would have been a real treat. That would have

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01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: been what a safe The pictures are black and white. Yeah,

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01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: they've got us. I mean I feel like that is

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01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 1: an absolute sign. Yeah, bless this wedding. Absolutely, this union, Bobby.

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01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 1: I'm glad Bobby brought up the question. Yeah, yeah, that

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01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 1: was good. Yeah, it's funny. You have a lot of

1714
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 1: stories like that, and I tried to keep mine as

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01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 1: air appropriate as I could. But there you run into

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01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 1: some odd things at weddings. It turns out in your

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01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 1: official wedding season. Yeah, this is the wedding season. That's right.

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01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: June Bride, that's right, June Bride. My bride wasn't June

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01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: Bride June sixty, June eleven. I say, Gibbe, it was

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01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,640
Speaker 1: in June. Absolutely, Jibby head one of the great weddings,

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01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: outdoor extravaganza. Unbelievable. It was fantastic. I tell you. I

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01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 1: can remember very well, Jason. It was the night I

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01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: believe the monsters won the call they did. I had

1724
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 1: a couple, I had a couple of hockey wholigans in

1725
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: the bar areas start spraying people when the monsters didn't

1726
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: they win. They wanted overtime I'm so mad I was

1727
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 1: out of town. That really bums me out. It was

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01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 1: just a tremendousmendous venue. It was great time, I mean,

1729
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 1: and he and his wife did a great job. This

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01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 1: guy's pure joy who loves the party. About nineties seven degrees, yes,

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01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,640
Speaker 1: minor detail. The time we were out there and it

1732
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 1: cooled off, it was beautiful. The cocktails were floating. I

1733
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 1: bet they were there. Any peanut butter and jelly at

1734
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: the everything there was everything. But we know the guy.

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01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: We know a guy, we know a guy here, Jim

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01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: speaking of a treat, always a pleasure to this last time.

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01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 1: Imagine how it's going to be every Sunday. That's right.

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01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: I was squeeze in some of the game. What we

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01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 1: can control will be a great right. Well, come on, guys,

1740
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: help us out out there, all right? For the great

1741
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 1: Jim Donovan and Jason Gibbs. I'm nathansgirl saying thanks for

1742
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Speaker 1: listening to another edition of Cleveland Browns Daily. The next

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