1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media. 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 3: Hey bam, You're about to hear a replay of one 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 3: of our interviews from our live stream at the Democratic 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 3: National Convention. 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 4: Now. 8 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 3: If you want to listen to or watch the full stream, 9 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 3: be sure to check out links in the episode description. 10 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 3: You can also find a full list of all the 11 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: guests we've interviewed. Welcome home, y'all. 12 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 4: We have majority leader Chuck Schumer, who's joining us now. 13 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 4: Quite a big difference from just a few weeks ago. 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 5: Huh, oh man, are we cooking? Cooking it? 15 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 6: I have been at every convention since nineteen eighty four. 16 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 6: None is as happy, none is as unified, and none 17 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 6: is as committing to win as this. 18 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 5: One that's going all away. That's right, It is so great. 19 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 5: I cannot tell you given more than eight and more 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 5: than eight. 21 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 6: Even because you know why, there's a that we have 22 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 6: the pause, if we have Kamala, we have walls. 23 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 5: But you know there's a negative. 24 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 6: We cannot let that son of a gun get back 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 6: into office. 26 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 5: So it's both ways. 27 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 7: Hey, bitch man, say son of a bit, that's okay, 28 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 7: that's okay. 29 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 5: The son of a gun, Okay, son of a gun. 30 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you that that president is no efing good. 31 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 5: How sad you know, Senator, you introduce him from Brooklyn. 32 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 5: You know we use these words. You know, I like 33 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 5: that you introduced that and no King Zach. 34 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 7: After the Supreme Court presidential ruling and in light of 35 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 7: the Supreme Court recent rulings, how concerned are you about 36 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 7: them potentially interfering in this election? Because you know, Donald 37 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 7: Trump's gonna sound you bet. Trump has no principles, he 38 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 7: has no morals. 39 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 6: He will do anything he can to win, no matter 40 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 6: what corner he has to cut, no matter how many 41 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 6: rules and laws he has to break. That's why he's 42 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 6: going to go to jail, but in it because of 43 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 6: the previous stuff he's done. And so let me just say, 44 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 6: we are vigilant. We got the best election lawyers on 45 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 6: the case. We are training thousands of lawyers. We are 46 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 6: making sure on election day they don't screw around and 47 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 6: deter people from voting. You know what they used to do, 48 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 6: they used to tell they used to send out an 49 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 6: African American neighborhoods voting day has been changed. Vote Thursday. 50 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 6: These guys won't stop in anything. That's what the Republicans 51 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 6: used to do. But we are now prepared. We were 52 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 6: not prepared years ago. 53 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 5: We are majority Leader Schumer. 54 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 4: You know one question that I have for you, based 55 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 4: on what you just said, I think is so important 56 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 4: because folks regularly are donating to campaigns or to campaign committees, 57 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: and you're just talking about training a bunch of lawyers. 58 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 4: Is that some of the ways that you all are 59 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 4: using the contribution this. 60 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 6: Money is using every way, obviously TV, obviously digital. 61 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 5: But we're getting out to vote. 62 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 6: You know, the best way to get out to vote, 63 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 6: particularly among our young people who aren't voting that much, 64 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 6: knocking on doors and explaining it better than an ad, 65 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 6: better than anything. We're putting close to half our money 66 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 6: into door knocking and talking to people. But we're also 67 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 6: putting our money into just what Charlemagne said, and that 68 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 6: is preventing them from stealing this election. 69 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 5: They'll stop at nothing. 70 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 7: Why are more people in your position just calling out 71 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 7: the Supreme Court as a illegitimate institution? 72 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 6: They should, you know, the right wing, these very rich, 73 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 6: greedy people who didn't want to pay any taxes, who 74 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 6: didn't want the government to do any you know, they said, 75 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 6: I built my company with my own hands, although half 76 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 6: of them inherited it, And they say, how dare your 77 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 6: government tell me how I had to treat my workers, 78 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 6: my customers, or the land and air and water that 79 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 6: I own. 80 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 5: That's what they did. And they realized, Charlemagne that they. 81 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 6: Couldn't get this done even when they controlled the elected 82 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 6: branches of government House, Senate, because they were and president, 83 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 6: because it was so far to the f and right, 84 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 6: so far to the right, and so they tried to 85 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 6: take over the courts. We have an obligation to try 86 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 6: and stop them. The Supreme Court is a more rass 87 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 6: now who would have thought of this, the ethics of 88 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 6: that court. So these rich fact rich people are paying 89 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,839 Speaker 6: for or cars for trips at the same time they're 90 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 6: paying somebody to some law firm to go to lawyer 91 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 6: and make their case. 92 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 5: That is outrageous. 93 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 6: And I'll tell you who should we should blame, among others, 94 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 6: the Chief Justice John Roberts, who once said he's calling 95 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 6: balls and strikes. He could stop this with the flick 96 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 6: of his pen. Where the hell is he? Literal mates? 97 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 5: I just want to. 98 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: So the President has made it a stated goal to 99 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: get reform on the Supreme Court. I'm just I what's 100 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: your prognosis for a week between now lamed uck and 101 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: obviously a new presidency? 102 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 6: Framed uncle hard because the Republicans control the House, a 103 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 6: few right wingers seem to run the show and they 104 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 6: will stop at nothing to keep the court the way 105 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 6: it is. 106 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 5: But if we and please vote, vote, vote, vote. 107 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 6: If we keep the Senate, win the House, win the presidency, 108 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,679 Speaker 6: Supreme Court reform is going to be at the top 109 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 6: of our agenda because we cannot let these unelected people 110 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 6: take away women's rights, take away others. 111 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 5: Right. 112 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 6: You know, we talk about freedom. They used to talk 113 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 6: about freedom. They don't believe in freedom. 114 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 5: We do. 115 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 6: So we also believe in economic freedom. We believe you 116 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 6: should have a good education so you can get a 117 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 6: decent job. Freedom to be able to pick your job. 118 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 6: We talk about freedom to be able to afford a house. 119 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 5: You know. 120 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 6: One of the great things Kamala just did. Kamala just 121 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 6: did is this young people. A lot of young people 122 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 6: have enough money to pay the monthly mortgage, but they 123 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 6: don't have any money for. 124 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 5: The down payment. 125 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, one can save that much these days, and 126 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 6: so what she said, what Kamala said is very simple. 127 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 6: Twenty five thousand bucks the federal government, if you're a 128 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 6: first time home buyer, to help you with that down payment. 129 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 6: People when they hear that, particularly the younger people, when 130 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 6: we have to make sure vote, they're. 131 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 5: Gonna love that. 132 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 6: She knows what she's talking about. I knew her in 133 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 6: the Senate. She was great. 134 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 5: I'm sorry glad to no no. 135 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: I was actually gonna piggyback on your question about the Court. 136 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 3: You know, Charlie called it an illegitimate institution, and I 137 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: have to echo that sentiment for the people out there 138 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: who may not understand the severity of what is the 139 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: power of this court and what they've done, what specifically 140 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: can be done as soon as possible. Do we expand 141 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: the courts? That has to go through the Senate. If 142 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: we do, I mean because at this point our democratic 143 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 3: institutions are corona. 144 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 6: The first step in getting it, getting rid of the 145 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 6: morass on the court is to vote. 146 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 5: Because if they keep. 147 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 6: The House, if they win the Senate, or if they 148 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 6: win the predsidency, any one of the three, they will 149 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 6: block it. They will fight for this court but once 150 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 6: we get it, there are very There are a lot 151 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 6: of proposals out there on the table. There's expanding the court, 152 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 6: there's term limits, there's I have a proposal that's much simpler. 153 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 6: It's limiting their jurisdiction in certain areas. You know, Justice 154 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 6: Alito said, Congress can't regulate the courts. Well, pardon me, sir, 155 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 6: mister justice. You didn't either read or understand the Constitution. 156 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 6: That's what it says it explicitly in this right. And 157 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 6: so we can do that relatively easily and limit the 158 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 6: kind of jurisdiction that they have. 159 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 8: But they expanded the fact that you got a justice 160 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 8: who's prepared to expand the power of the court do 161 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 8: their own word or do their own written opinion, absolutely 162 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 8: with no accountability, no teeth and ethics, and you know 163 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 8: why to hold them. 164 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 6: Account In the past, maybe people said they'll never get 165 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 6: it done. 166 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 5: Well, we saw what happened with choice. Absolutely. 167 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 6: We heard what one of the justices I think it was, 168 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 6: I can't remember which one. Maybe it was Justice Thomas. 169 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 6: He said, next is gay rights. He sure did gay marriage, but. 170 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 4: He's not gonna go after biracial marriage exactly. 171 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 6: You never know what You never know what these guys 172 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 6: will do, but he can'tone. The hypocrisy of these folks 173 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 6: is so large you can't hold them to any standard consistency. 174 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 6: Look at this when justice, when Mitch McConnell said that 175 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 6: you should you don't can't vote on a justice within 176 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 6: about six months before the election a year and then 177 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 6: there was another vacancy and he puts someone in several 178 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 6: a month before. If no consistency, they will do anything 179 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 6: to keep this court UH intact because they know that 180 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 6: their agenda is so filling the writing that no one 181 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 6: will accept it in the elected branches. This has to 182 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 6: be You are right, This has to be one of 183 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 6: our biggest fights. 184 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 7: But doesn't it take more courage from Democrats when it 185 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 7: comes to situations like that. Democrats have a reputation for 186 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 7: being cowards because they don't push back on things like. 187 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 5: Well, hey Charlemagne, I'm from Brooklyn. 188 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 4: We fight, so I want to just say Senator Schumer 189 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: staff is waving him down so hard he almost lost 190 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,359 Speaker 4: his train of thought. 191 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 5: I am afraid of my staff. 192 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 4: We are so grateful for your time tonight. Thank you, 193 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 4: thank you, the majority of the leader Schumer, we are 194 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 4: looking let me just. 195 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 6: Say, folks, on to victory. We must win to future 196 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 6: this country, the future of the world, democracy depends on this. 197 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 6: And and by the way, can I just say, one 198 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 6: of the very first things we're going to do if 199 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 6: we keep the get the power is put the John 200 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 6: Lewis Right Voting Rights Act, the Freedom to Vote Act, 201 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 6: on the floor of the Senate, changing those rules, and 202 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 6: we will get it done. 203 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 5: I love it, I love it. Thank you. We appreciate 204 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 5: your sentiment. All that. 205 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: Careful. 206 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 5: We got a big agenda. We got it. We need 207 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 5: to be in there. 208 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 209 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 6: Last time we had the power, we had the most 210 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 6: successful congress, most sexual presidency. Give Joe Biden credits since 211 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 6: Johnson and maybe since Roosevelt. It'll happen again even more. 212 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 6: You ain't seen you ain't seen nothing yet to. 213 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 4: Okay, be careful, Thank you, Thank you so much for joining. 214 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 5: Thank you for doing this. 215 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 4: Chuck Schumer, who the majority leader in the United States Senate, 216 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 4: wapping him up as he departs. This is Native Lampard 217 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 4: in partnership with Breakfast Club, and we are getting ready 218 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 4: to welcome our next guest. But in the meantime, be careful. 219 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 4: Senator Schumer, that step is insane. 220 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 7: Schumer said he agrees with expanding the Supreme Court. 221 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: Yes, he did, and we also asked for some reparations. Uh, 222 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 4: we also asked for a reparations. Be able to hit 223 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 4: that floor. 224 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 5: We'll see. 225 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 4: Be careful that that somebody up. 226 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to you, guys. Please please please remember 227 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: to rate, review, subscribe, and tune into our regular episode 228 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 3: on Thursdays. 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