1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Can If I am six forty, you're listening to the 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: John Cobelt's show Welcome. 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: We're out every day from one until four o'clock, and 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: every day after four o'clock it gets posted as a podcast. 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: John Cobelt's Show on demand on the iHeart App. I 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: feel like I'm going insane. I feel like I'm really 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: going in saying there was just a press conference that 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Karen Bass had within the last half hour. And when 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: you go home tonight, especially if you've been affected by 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: the fires and you watch her, You're gonna slam your 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: head through a window. I have never seen anyone more 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: smug and arrogant and dismissive. And if I hear her 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: say that we're we have to move forward one more time, 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna do. This is really 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: we are deep, deep into crazy land here. Karen Bass 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: held it in this conference to announce that she's fired 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: Kristin Crowley as the LA fire chief. And Kristin Crowley 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: did a horrific, tragic, terrible job as fire chief handling 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: this fire. But Karen Bass is not taking any responsibility 21 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: at all for not being here and not overseeing Crowley's 22 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: plan to attack the fire because Bass wasn't here and 23 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: Crowley did not have a plan to attack the fire 24 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: the two of them, and then throwing Genie Quinoniez, who 25 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: had the empty reservoir. 26 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: This is astonishing. 27 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: But Bass doesn't really want to deal with with with 28 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: all the consequences here. She wants to play misdirection. Point 29 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: at Crowley, talk over people and tell them we have 30 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: to move forward. 31 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: This is it's not gonna work this way. 32 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: You've ruined the lives of tens of thousands of people. 33 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: It doesn't work this way. 34 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: I have never and for her to actually go on 35 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: television with Alex Michaelson on Fox eleven a couple of 36 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: days ago and say I, frankly wasn't aware of the 37 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: fire warnings is insane. It's impossible to believe her. It's 38 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: impossible to believe her. I'm going to play you some 39 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: clips here of the press conference because you probably didn't 40 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: didn't hear it or see it. Here is Bass announcing 41 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: the firing of Kristan Crowley. 42 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Thank you for being here acting in the 43 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: best interest of Los Angeles public safety and for the 44 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: operations of the Los Angeles Fire Department. I just met 45 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: with Chief Crowley and removed her as fire chief. I 46 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 3: have appointed a forty one year veteran of the fire department, 47 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: former Chief Deputy, Ronald via Nueva, as interim fire chief. 48 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 3: He is respected and ready to hit the ground running. 49 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: So let me be clear. 50 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: Our firefighters acted heroically during the Palisades fire, and they 51 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: act heroically every single day. That is without question. Bringing 52 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: new leadership to the fire department is what they and 53 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: the people of Los Angeles deserve. As you know, I 54 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 3: have called for a full investigation of everything leading up 55 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: to January seventh. A necessary step to the investigation was 56 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: the President of the Fire Commission telling Chief Crowley to 57 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: do an after action report on the fires. 58 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 4: The fire chief refused. 59 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: We all know that a thousand firefighters that could have 60 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: been on duty on the morning the fires broke were 61 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: instead sent home on Chief Crowley's watch. These actions required her. 62 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: Remove stop right there. 63 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: If Karen Bass had been here in Los Angeles and 64 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: they had these extreme fire warnings, which Bass's staff put 65 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: out on Bass's x account on her social media, all right, 66 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: if you have Karen Bass, you're following her on social media. 67 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: You got messages the night before about the extreme fire danger, 68 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: So for her not to then have a meeting the 69 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: night before with Kristin Crowley and I realize it would 70 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: be easier if you were in Los Angeles, but even 71 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: in Ghana, even with the time difference, don't you have 72 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: a meeting and you go through? 73 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: All right? What are you gonna do? 74 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: Because if you look at the fire map, it says 75 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: it's most likely to break out in the foothills on 76 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: either side of the Santa Monica Mountains, which goes from 77 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: let's say the Palisades east past Hollywood and then on 78 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: the north side it's Woodland Hills east to Studio City. 79 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: So that's where the fire is most likely to break out, 80 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: according to the National Weather Service. So what are you 81 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: going to do? Are you going to keep the second shift? 82 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: Are you going to send out the extra engines and 83 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: the fire Crowley should have sent a crew to that 84 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: spot in the Palisades where the kids had started the 85 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: firecracker fire, the fireworks fire that they put on on 86 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: January first, because fire officials say that you can have 87 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: a flare up and they think that might have been 88 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: the case. Not certain could have been a bum fire. 89 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: We don't know, but they keep saying it may have 90 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: been the fireworks fire. And you still have smoldering going 91 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: on underground, and so the fire department is to monitor 92 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: that spot, and it was only six days later apparently 93 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: they did. And that should have been the first spot 94 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: that they sent a crew over because that was the 95 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: most likely spot in the Palisades for the fire. But 96 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 1: this all should have been discussed, not just the night before, 97 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 1: but for five days before Thursday, the second, Friday, the third, 98 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: the fourth, the fifth, the sixth is Monday, five days before, 99 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: and Karen Bass should have had that meeting. Karen Bass 100 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: is Crowley's boss. Karen Bass obviously is Crowley's boss because 101 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: she just fired Crowley. Somebody pointed out that when the 102 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: fire started, Bass did it a radio interview and was 103 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: praising Crowley and saying the fire department was prepared. And 104 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: the reporter said, why did you say that? And she goes, well, 105 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: obviously it I had to have all the facts. Then 106 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: why did you say that? So you go and you do, right, 107 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: this is what they do. You go and do a 108 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: radio interview. You don't have all the facts, You just 109 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: do cheerleading nonsense, which is what she did in this 110 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: press conference day, more cheerleading garbage. No, the fire department 111 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: wasn't prepared. Kristin Crowley sent a thousand people home, and 112 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: the fire engines, forty of them were kept in the garage, 113 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: and then there's another hundred that ever got fixed. And 114 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: the fire department is half funded, fifty percent funded, and 115 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: more than half of the fires they put out are 116 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: started by bums, by vagrants, and that all plays into this. 117 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: But she's got this attitude where everything's Kristin Crowley's fault. 118 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: Later on she goes, oh the buck stops here. I'm 119 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: the one in charge. Well, if you were the one 120 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: in charge, did you have a meeting where you went 121 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: through all the details? In this press conference she said, 122 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: this is the largest disaster for a city in American history. Well, yeah, 123 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: and you weren't here and you didn't have the meeting 124 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: to make sure everything was. In fact, you went on 125 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: the radio the next day and told the public that 126 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: she had pre deployed things properly. 127 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: So you made that up. You lied? 128 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: How'd you know that? But she didn't know that because 129 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: she made it up or she lied. Nothing was pre 130 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: deployed nothing nowhere, not alone the foothills, on the north 131 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: or south side of the Santa Monica Mountains, anywhere else. 132 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: Nothing was done, and she as of Monday when she 133 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: was on with Alex Michaelson, she said, well, you know, 134 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: we have got investigations going on. Well, and then suddenly 135 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: you fire Crowley with well, what's the result of the investigation? 136 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: On Monday you weren't firing her. Today you're firing her. 137 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, not Monday. I guess that was a couple 138 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: of days ago, maybe Wednesday. 139 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: Now you're firing her. What changed? 140 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: And then she claims that Crowley did not want to 141 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: do an after action report? Well when did that happen? 142 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: Because it's been six and a half weeks since the fire. 143 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: What day was that she wouldn't do the after action report? 144 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: And why wasn't that told to the public. Let's have 145 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: what's going on here. 146 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: Now. Crowley can be fired, and she should be fired, 147 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: But how will we get rid of bass? 148 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: She's dangerously incompetent, dangerously and arrogant about it. And then 149 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: one about Denise Canonias who left the reservoir empty? 150 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: What about that woman? No mention of her? The hell 151 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: is going on play some wre cut six. 152 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 3: While the department is in the experienced and expert hands 153 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: of Chief Via Nueva. My office will lead a national search, 154 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: and I will speak directly with firefighters and Angelinos about 155 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: what they want to see in the next fire chief. 156 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: I will use a similar process as I did in 157 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: searching for our police chief. The business of the fire 158 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: Department and the city will continue. Our heroic firefighters are 159 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 3: on the job in our firehouses, engines, trucks, and ambulances. 160 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 3: The recovery of the Palisades is months ahead of expectations. 161 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 3: Los Angeles is moving forward on our fronts, and we 162 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: will keep moving forward together. 163 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: Moving forward, moving forward, moving forward, moving forward, without admitting 164 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: to everything she did that allowed this disaster to happen. 165 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,599 Speaker 1: I can't stand people who do that. Well, let's move forward. No, 166 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: we're not moving forward. We are staying right in place 167 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: and gonna keep examining and blaming and finger pointing and 168 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: Monday warning, quarterbacking and all those cute little phrases that 169 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: these hacks like to use to evade responsibility. She is 170 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: a disaster. She needs to go. I don't know how 171 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: to replace her. I don't know what mechanism there is 172 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: to replace her outside a recall, which they always they 173 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: always screw with, but I cannot. I she's trying to 174 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: change the subject. She's trying to dump by Crowley because 175 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: she embarrassed herself so badly in that Fox eleven interview 176 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: by saying that she wasn't aware of the she wasn't 177 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: aware of the warnings. Well, she put her out on 178 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: her own her own Twitter feed. All right, we're gonna continue. 179 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: We've got more clips to play. That was just the beginning. 180 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM 181 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 4: six forty. 182 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: Now back to if you're just joining us. 183 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: Karen Bass fired Kristin Crowley, blaming Kristin Crowley for not 184 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: being prepared, blaming Kristin Crowley for not a learning Karen 185 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: Bass about the fire danger coming. I have never seen 186 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: anyone do something like this. There were so many warnings 187 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: that were all aware of, and Karen Bass was here 188 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: for two days before she went to Africa. She went 189 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: to Africa after two days of warnings, and then she 190 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: stayed in Africa until after the fire broke out and 191 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: was out of control. 192 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: She chose to do that. 193 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: Nobody is believing her, and nobody should believe her, And 194 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: now to change the sun object And that's what this is. 195 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: She's changing the subject by firing Kristen Crowley, who should 196 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: be fired. But why did Bass keep her on? She 197 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: was a Garcetti hier and Bass is the one who 198 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: hired Genice Kinonies TWP empty reservoir. So who's going to 199 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: trust Karen Bass going on a nationwide search? 200 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: How the hell is Palisad's ever going to get out 201 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: of this? 202 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: How with her running things for another two years? 203 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 2: She was asked. 204 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: Bass was asked by somebody what specifically Crowley did to 205 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: endanger public safety? 206 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: What specifically is. 207 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: She Well, as I mentioned, one thousand firefighters who could 208 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: have been on the job fighting the fires were sent home. 209 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: The other thing that I mentioned is that I said 210 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: after the fires were after the fires were out, after 211 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: the rain had stopped, that a full investigation would begin. 212 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: One step of that investigation was to do an after 213 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 3: action report, of which she refused. 214 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: So we knew that our. 215 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 5: Firefiers who had been called in the day after the fire. 216 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 6: At what changed Because you said you weren't playing on 217 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 6: firing her on anyuary? 218 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: You left, Oh, let me, let me, let me, let 219 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: me just let me just be clear, as I just said, 220 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: while the fire, well, Los Angeles was on fire. 221 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: Think of something. After that, we had rains. 222 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: I was not going to do anything while we were 223 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: in a state of emergency. Next, No, we are not 224 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 3: in a state of emergency right now. 225 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: She's she's not easy to trip up because she just 226 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: says stuff and she doesn't even remember what she says. 227 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: She told a RA radio interview that Crowley was doing 228 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: a great job and they were well prepared. 229 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: Uh. 230 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: And then and then when asked about it today again 231 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: she said, well, I didn't have all the facts. Well, 232 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: why didn't you have all the facts before you said that? 233 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: When you agree to do an interview and then you 234 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: give boilerplate, cheerleading responses, misleading the city. You made it 235 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: clear you thought they had everything together. Well at the 236 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: moment you gave the interview where there were a thousand 237 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: firefighters fire not fighting out there. You should have went 238 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: through this the night before. But when the fire broke out, 239 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: she was having a cocktail with the President of Ghana. 240 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how anybody avoids being tossed out of 241 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: office over this. I don't understand. I've never seen We 242 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: have seen a lot of crap over the years from 243 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: political figures. I've never seen something like this. It's like 244 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: she lives in some weird alternate reality and is trying 245 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: to sell us all on her reality play Cut eight 246 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: about the firing, I. 247 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: Said, this is a decision made. 248 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: When did you meet with. 249 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: About an hour ago? And how did you it was 250 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: very brief. 251 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 6: Did she tell you anything about why it was a 252 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 6: very brief meeting? 253 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: No? It It is hard to believe that Crowley didn't 254 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: tell Bass about the fire warnings. It's hard to believe 255 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: Bass didn't know about it on her own. It's hard 256 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: to believe that she didn't call Crowley and that they 257 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: had it all hands on deck meeting somewhere between Thursday 258 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: the second, certainly by Monday the sixth, or maybe the 259 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: morning of Tuesday the seventh. I can't I cannot believe 260 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: that they had no discussions on this. Karen Bass is 261 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: the boss of Kristin Crowley. Karen Bass had no curiosity. 262 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, she was in Africa. I keep forgetting. 263 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: She wasn't paying attention. You know, if you've ever gone 264 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: overseas after a couple of days. It's like your homeland 265 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: doesn't even exist anymore. You're just lost in the new 266 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: setting and meeting new people and the time difference, and 267 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: it's a you know, you kind of get disconnected. 268 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: We come back. 269 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: I want to play another cut because it sounds like 270 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: she starts to get a little fraid here as the 271 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: reporter starts shouting questions and somebody trying to ask her 272 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: about Crowley not calling her directly about the weather. But again, 273 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: how does Bass not know about the fire warnings? How 274 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: does she not know? How does she not call Crowley? 275 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: She keeps saying, well, she didn't tell me, But why 276 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: didn't you tell her? That's your job. You heard your 277 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: city is under threat with an extreme wind and firestorm possible. 278 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: You should be calling the fire chief. If the fire 279 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: chief hasn't called you, What is this? What kind of 280 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: grade school game is this? Wow, she didn't call me? 281 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: I mean I didn't call her, but she didn't call me. 282 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: This is the mentality we have running Los Angeles. Seriously, 283 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: nice voting job. 284 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 285 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 4: six forty. 286 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: I have from a good source that Karen Bass has 287 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty eight staff members in the mayor's office. 288 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: Two thirty eight staff members. Did any of them tell 289 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: her that a firestorm was coming? 290 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 2: Two hundred and thirty eight. 291 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: None of them followed the news, none of them spoke 292 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: with her about it. You know how much money they 293 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: cumulatively make, if you add up there regular pay, the 294 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: overtime bonuses and whatnot. 295 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: Twenty five million dollars. 296 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: Twenty five million dollars to two two hundred and thirty 297 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: eight staff members in Karen Bass's office. And if you 298 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: believe Karen Bass, not one of them picked up the 299 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: phone or sent her an email or a text or 300 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: a tweet. 301 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: Nothing. 302 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: Oh, for two hundred and thirty eight they all went 303 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: silent wow. Or maybe they all missed the news. 304 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: For five straight days? Is that possible? 305 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: Two hundred and thirty eight people for five days and 306 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: nobody knew that the firestorm was coming. 307 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: We're going to talk with David Howard. 308 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: Now, David workshare at KFI for iHeart and sales manager, 309 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: and he lost his home in the fires. And he's 310 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: been on with us periodically to give us a sense 311 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: of what it's like to be in the middle of 312 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: this travesty. And the reaction that he has and other 313 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: people that he knows in the Palisades. 314 00:19:59,280 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: David, how are you? 315 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 5: Hm, Hey, John, how's it going. 316 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: I'm I'm good. Did you get to hear or see 317 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: the press conference? 318 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,719 Speaker 5: I heard parts of it, most of it on your 319 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 5: show because I was in a meeting, but I can 320 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 5: tell it being in the entertainment capital of the world, 321 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 5: the La City Hunger Games have begun, right, Yeah, that 322 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 5: was the most feeble attempt trying to save your own 323 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 5: job of anything we've probably ever seen or heard. And 324 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 5: my phone has been blowing up since the announcement came out. 325 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: It's it's unbelievable that she admits that she didn't know 326 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: the fire was coming and then blames Kristin Crowley for 327 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: not telling her. 328 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, that's that's laughable. There wasn't 329 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 5: a person, there wasn't a person in this town that 330 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 5: didn't know for four days that those ones were coming. 331 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 5: And as you've a new and Debora repeatedly, you know, 332 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 5: shared on your show, it's not often where you hear 333 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 5: the word extreme in a wind event, and so that 334 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 5: that's just inexcusable. It makes no sense. 335 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: I just don't know how people can deal with this 336 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: emotionally because of all the stress you obviously have in 337 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: losing the home and then losing that town, and then 338 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: you hear Bass every day bumbling around with all her nonsense. 339 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, that's a great point, Like you don't 340 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 5: know whether you should be laughing it's how ridiculous it is, 341 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 5: or you should be crying and how pathetic it is. 342 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 5: And there's a picture. I think I sent it to Terray. 343 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 5: I don't know if you had a chance to look 344 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 5: at it, But on January eighth, when the second day 345 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 5: of the fire was burning, there were structures that were 346 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 5: completely intact at ten in the morning, and in the 347 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 5: afternoon those structures were gone. There's a photo of Karen 348 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 5: Bass walking down Sunset Boulevard, passing the Chase Bank building, 349 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 5: which literally John was on fire, and she's walking by 350 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 5: it and there's not a fire truck to be seen. 351 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 5: And she didn't turn and say, hey, where's the fire truck, 352 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 5: where's the structure protection, where's the help? She just kept walking. 353 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 5: So so I know that you and I both like 354 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 5: I know you and I both like sports. And when 355 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 5: a team doesn't do all, guess who gets fired? The 356 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 5: head coach. 357 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's nobody, nobody to fire her. I mean, well, 358 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: you notice every other politician in the city and the 359 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: state is absolutely silent. 360 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: They should all be speaking out. Yeah. 361 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: Well, the clock has got to run out on her. 362 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: There's no point in debating this anymore. She's just got 363 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: to go. She's she can't do this job. 364 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 5: Well, I think she. I think she realizes that how 365 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 5: desperate things are becoming very quickly. And I'll tell you 366 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 5: one of the things that the residents are talking about 367 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 5: is literally forming like a Los Angeles doge like where 368 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 5: we are now going to get full exposure and transparency 369 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 5: of where our tax money is going, right, a disapportion 370 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 5: amount of the tax money and where it's being spent. 371 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 5: And why we've talked about this, why should we be 372 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 5: paying any taxes when we receive zero services except going 373 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 5: into the pockets of you know, of the cronyism and 374 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 5: all the ridiculous organizations that are set up, you know, 375 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 5: wildly that we don't have any transparency on. And it's 376 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 5: going to stop. 377 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: No, the city is utterly corrupt. 378 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 5: I mean, this fire might be that might be the 379 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 5: impetus for the change that so many of us have 380 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 5: been looking for for so long, I hope so. 381 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been astonished on over the last you know, 382 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: ten twenty years with people in the city put up 383 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: with and and now finally I think everybody is awake 384 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: and angry, and they should be angry because this is intolerable. 385 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 2: I just well, well it is. 386 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 5: It's it's nonsensical to be you know, it's it's crazy. 387 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, whenever you want to talk, if 388 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: you find out stuff, let let us know. All right, 389 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: we'll put you on right away. 390 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 391 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 5: Well, there's a there's a big movement you'll be seeing 392 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 5: in you know, the next week or two, an open 393 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 5: letter that's being drafted by the residents. And again, the 394 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 5: pressure is not going away. It's only going to get worse. 395 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 5: So when Bass makes these silly decisions and does these 396 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 5: things that are just you know, people hard to comprehend, 397 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 5: it just makes it worse for HER's And this is 398 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 5: a group of people that are committed to change and 399 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 5: we're going to get it done. 400 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, this week has been really bad. All right, David Howard, thank. 401 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: You, said David, who was a sales manager here at 402 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: to KFI, and iHeart listen to this clip. I haven't 403 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: heard this yet. The press conference went on about quarter 404 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: to one, and we were trying to put together the 405 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: show and keep track of this at the same time, 406 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: and I didn't hear this exchange. But bass is responding 407 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: to a question about Crowley not calling her directly about 408 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: the weather warning. 409 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 5: Yes. 410 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 3: I spoke to her the evening of the seventh, yes, exactly, 411 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 3: which was the morning here, so it was after the 412 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 3: fire started. But let me just be clear, Los Angeles 413 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 3: needs to move forward. 414 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: This is a new day. 415 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: I am excited to welcome our new chief, who was 416 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 3: a forty one year veteran of this fire department. He 417 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 3: is well known, he is well liked. 418 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: He knows most. 419 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: Of the members of the city Council except for our 420 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: two members that were recently elected. And it is our 421 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 3: plan to continue moving forward. We want to have the 422 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 3: full investigation that the governor has ordered and the investigation 423 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 3: that we will do locally. 424 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: Uh donis. 425 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: She keeps saying We've got to move forward, going forward, 426 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: moving forward. Do you have the clip the excuse me clip? 427 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: I thought that was going to be the excuse me clip? 428 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 6: You actually still with the chief that I heard a 429 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 6: black gas is as well for seven local Ard West 430 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 6: after the jeus here and she actually is talking about yes, 431 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 6: after and you're crazy prepositioning necessary and. 432 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: A reporter saying you went on the radio and said 433 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: you're praising Crowley for her prepositioning. 434 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 3: And needless to say, I did not know all the facts, 435 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 3: but I had spoken to her maybe a couple of 436 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 3: hours before that. 437 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: But she blindly went on the radio and just praised Crowley. So, 438 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: in other words, when when when she speaks, she has 439 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,959 Speaker 1: no credibility because you don't know if she's just parroting 440 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: cheerleading slogans or she actually knows what's going on. Apparently 441 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: she didn't know what was going on. She admitted she didn't. 442 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: She didn't have all the facts, but she was telling 443 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: us every everything was going well and that they were 444 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: prepared and that they were prepositioned, and clearly they weren't. 445 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: And only now. 446 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: She's telling us she's been talking about the after action 447 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: report for weeks and weeks, and only now she tells 448 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: us that Crowley wouldn't do an after action report. All right, yeah, 449 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: all right, play this cut now, the excuse me cut. 450 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 3: What I can tell you is is that what has 451 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 3: happened in the two plus years I've been here, every 452 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: time there was a weather emergency or even a hit 453 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 3: of a weather emergency, that she has called me directly. 454 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: She has my cell. 455 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: Phone, she knows she can call me twenty four to seven, 456 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: and she briefed me and then we would talk about 457 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: what needed to happen next. That did not happen this time. Yes, yes, 458 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: excuse me, yes. 459 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 4: Why exactly? 460 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: They asked her, Well, she's asked to do the after 461 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 3: action report and what was her justification. I don't know 462 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 3: her justification. 463 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: She was asked this week. 464 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: I learned about this yesterday. 465 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was this week this week, so that she 466 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: didn't start to do the after action report until this week. 467 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: She wasn't asked until this week. Now this is making 468 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: any sense and I don't understand this. Ka Kirstan Crowley 469 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: didn't call me with the weather warning. Why do you 470 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: need her to call you? You can call her you her 471 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: the warning was out there on January second. You put 472 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: out on January sixth on your own freaking Twitter that there. 473 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 2: Was an extreme fire warning. 474 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: So after you put that out on your own Twitter 475 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: on the sixth, you didn't also talk to Crowley what 476 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: are you doing tomorrow morning? 477 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: What's the plan? Because the National Weather Service had a. 478 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: Map showing where it was likely to happen, and everybody 479 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: in the fire department knew that the hottest of the 480 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: potential hotspots would be where that old fireworks fire was 481 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: from New Year's Day. 482 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: All right, let's say do the news. 483 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am 484 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 4: six forty. 485 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: Karen Dass had a preposterous news conference about an hour 486 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: ago where she fired Kristin Crowley, the fire chief, and 487 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: her biggest complaint is Kristin Crowley didn't tell Karen Bass 488 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: that the firestorm was coming. Really seriously, Karen Bass spent 489 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: two days in La where there were extreme fire danger 490 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: warnings and she wasn't aware of it. She goes to 491 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: Africa and there's more days of warnings and she's not 492 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: aware of it. And she claims Crowley didn't call her, 493 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: and that Crowley wasn't prepared and the fire department wasn't prepared. 494 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: But other than that, we're moving forward. Let me tell 495 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: you something that is going forward. 496 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 5: Nonsense. 497 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: It's what cowards do to escape responsibility. And Karen Bass 498 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: is a coward. She hid behind Stephen sober Off for 499 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: a while. Now sober Off, you know, he's got maybe 500 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: six more weeks on the job. You got Rick Caruso, 501 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: who's actually accomplishing things, getting at least modular housing going 502 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: for dozens of people. Something good as haden happening there 503 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: and more will come. And every day you realize it's like, yeah, 504 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: everybody voted for the wrong person, Rick Caruso. Rick Caruso 505 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: would be an exceptional mayor. Karen Bass is a zero. 506 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: And let me tell you why people aren't going to 507 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: go forward Because I don't know if you've been on 508 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: the West Side of La lately, but you literally cannot 509 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: go forward some of the collateral damage. And obviously, you know, 510 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: I have a lot of empathy for a lot of 511 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: friends and everyone who lives in the Palisades because they're 512 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: not going to have a home for the next five 513 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: plus years and they've lost everything they ever had. But 514 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: the collateral damage is now there are communities who are 515 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: angry and screaming and protesting, and we'll get to that 516 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: later because the toxic waste is being brought into their neighborhoods. 517 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: Why they can't bring all the toxic waste out to 518 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: the desert. We'll get into that. But another thing is 519 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: the quality of life on the West Side. I don't mean 520 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: the vast west side, you know, from a four h 521 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: five going right to the ocean and over the four 522 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: h five into the valley, the West Valley from Showman 523 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: Oaks out to Woodland Hills. I have never and I 524 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: mean I've been out in LA for over thirty years. 525 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: I have never seen this kind of gridlock every day. 526 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: I have never seen this because they closed PCH or 527 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: PCH is severely restricted and there's absolutely no movement anywhere 528 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: on all the main roads and all the side streets. 529 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: And I just wanted to go grocery shopping the other 530 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: day and I had to take evasive action and go home. 531 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: Couldn't get to the grocery store, couldn't get to the 532 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: pet store. Driving home from Burbank, I couldn't stand on 533 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: the one on one. I had to I had to 534 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: get off. It seems like people are taking hours to 535 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: get home, especially in rush hour. Everything is gridlocked. Everything 536 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: is in a dead stop in all directions. And I 537 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: don't know when they're going to open the PCH and 538 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: what other roads are closed. But it is a disaster 539 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: for everybody on the west side. You cannot move and 540 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: every day is the same as the last day, and 541 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: so this collateral and you realize now with the toxic 542 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: waste and with the extreme traffic, and you kick it 543 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: to the store, and I mean, you can't even socialize 544 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: at night. 545 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 2: Sometimes you can't. You can't get anywhere. 546 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: And this is why when there's an extreme fire warning 547 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: from the National Weather Service, you have extensive meetings with 548 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: everybody involved. At Kristin Crowley, what's your plan, geniez Konias. 549 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 2: Is that reservoir filled? 550 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: What what do you mean it's not field? Get out 551 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: of here, go home. Did those three ever have a 552 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: meeting where Crowley explained about the thousand firefighters and the 553 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: forty engines and Kinona has explained why all the reservoirs 554 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: are full? 555 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: And did they ever have this? No, they didn't have it. 556 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,719 Speaker 1: And now people in the Palisades have to deal with 557 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: the next five plus years of their lives being in ruins, 558 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: and everybody else has got to deal with commutes that 559 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: go on for hours. Now there are neighborhood meetings all 560 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: over the place, people fighting all the toxic waste. There 561 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: are trucks rumbling down sunset with toxic dust coming out 562 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: and everyone's freaking out. And the best that Karen Bass 563 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: has to say as well, Kristin Crowley didn't call me. 564 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: They didn't They apparently didn't know what. 565 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: The stakes are, what a firefight, what a fire gets 566 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: out of control in an urban environment. They didn't know, 567 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: They didn't understand, they didn't care. They have a half 568 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: funded fire department. We have exactly half the firefighters that 569 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: we should according to national recommendations. I hear bast preening. Well, 570 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: actually we increased the fire budget this year. You only 571 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: have fifty percent of a fire department that spends more 572 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: than fifty percent of their time putting out bumfires. The 573 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: hell is wrong with them. This can't be real, and 574 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: there's no sign this is ever going to end. This 575 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: is what matters in governing, Not diversity, equity, inclusion, can, 576 00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: consensus building, climate, race, gender, None of that matters. What 577 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 1: matters is there's a fire warning coming and you need 578 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: the people in charge of the various departments to have 579 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: a meeting and put out the best defense and offense possible. 580 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 2: One's in Africa. 581 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: Denise Cononiez is Bean counting equity numbers and Kristin Crowley. 582 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: They give her half a fire department, and when it 583 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: came time to pull the trigger to unleash that department, 584 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: she choked and set a thousand fighters home. A thousand 585 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: firefighters sent home. Three disastrous human beings who have no 586 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: business being in these jobs, anywhere near these jobs. 587 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 2: Here we are, We. 588 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: Got Prigina de Castillo live in the KFI twenty four 589 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the John Covelt 590 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: Show podcast. You can always hear the show live on 591 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: KFI Am six forty from one to four pm every 592 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, and of course any time I'm on 593 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: demand on the iHeartRadio app