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Speaker 1: Joe with Lamar airings and rating Win and Jonas Knox

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Speaker 2: Good Morning Brady, Good Morning Anthony. How are we doing,

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Speaker 2: brother good Man? I just I can't wait too. I know,

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Speaker 2: I know it can't come fast enough. You know, the

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Speaker 2: preseason gives me like a little dose of it. You know,

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Speaker 2: you're seeing the different guys mix in, you're seeing some hits,

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Speaker 2: you're seeing some football. It's it's nothing like Week one, though,

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Speaker 2: And honestly, you know, just from having played, even though

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Speaker 3: And I think the hard part was.

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Speaker 4: That the longer I got in the league, the more

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Speaker 4: I realized if you were a team that didn't know,

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Speaker 4: then compete for a Super Bowl that year, and then

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Speaker 4: obviously they ended up going on to win it. But

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Speaker 4: there are other teams where you know, there was more

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Speaker 4: of a question. You're sitting there going, okay this looking

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Speaker 4: at looking back on this, that wasn't a good thing.

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Speaker 4: Like you either know and if you don't know, yeah,

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Speaker 3: You know what's nuts is you bring this up.

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Speaker 5: So al Shan Jeffrey when he came over to Philadelphia

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Speaker 5: the year before, and I remember talking to Alice Man.

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Speaker 3: He's like, dude, this team's really good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he said, we're gonna we go. He goes, this

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Speaker 5: is a super Bowl team. And I was like, listen,

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Speaker 5: behold they win the super Bowl. And he was right,

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Speaker 5: and he called it the minute he got here. I'll

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Speaker 5: there freakingt He looks around and he was like it

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Speaker 3: It, and he's like, dude, this is a super Bowl team. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's just some teams that look different.

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Speaker 4: You know, we talked about that a little bit with

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Speaker 4: I can see where this is going. I mean, everyone

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Speaker 3: They're not in it. And it's easy.

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Speaker 4: It's easy enough to see that feel that even in

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Speaker 5: So I feel fairly confident in saying this, But you

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Speaker 3: Who's that? The Cowboys? Come on now, they're not. They're not.

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Speaker 5: And I got a point to Jerry, And Jerry was

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Speaker 5: He's talking about his team, and he's talking about controversy

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Speaker 5: exac words, and I'm gonna tell you why this.

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Speaker 6: I do believe if we're not being looked at, then

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Speaker 3: But there's something more there.

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Speaker 6: There's sizzle, there's emotion, and if you will, there's controversy.

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Speaker 3: That controversy is good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Brady, it's not good stuff. No. In fact, why they became.

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Speaker 5: America's team was because they were dynastic. They were a

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Speaker 5: So people loved them or hated them because they were great.

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Speaker 5: That's what made them America's team. Then you couple in

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Speaker 5: But now it's a circus, Brady, it's not America's team.

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Speaker 5: They were American circus.

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Speaker 4: it's just how it came about, like you moved on

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what it felt like to me, dude, exactly.

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Speaker 5: And listen, I've met Jerry in the nineties. I've been

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Speaker 3: He enjoys this stuff.

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Speaker 4: I mean, did Mike McCarthy like sleep over at Jerry's

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Speaker 5: Just reported James Cook and the Bills reach a contract extension,

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Speaker 4: I mean he's a very talented player. You just hope

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Speaker 5: And there was always a steadfast rule that you burn

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Speaker 5: it back out and you don't get in a second contract.

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Speaker 3: A lot of gms operated under that. You don't want

440
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Speaker 3: to you don't want to do it.

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Speaker 5: So if you're if you're gonna do that, then the

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Speaker 5: running back needs to stay and then you come in

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Speaker 5: you get your one big contract.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: Now'll say quantity and anomaly, right, I mean, you know,

446
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Speaker 5: plus last year a lot of highway bodels.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I think that's also one of the

448
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Speaker 4: pitches that you hear from a lot of these colleges

449
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Speaker 4: where they stack those running back rooms and they'll say,

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Speaker 4: you're not gonna get you know, get a lot of

451
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Speaker 4: you know where on your on your tires. We're gonna

452
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Speaker 4: we're gonna rotate you guys in you know, so it

453
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Speaker 4: doesn't matter who you I mean, look at penns Day,

454
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Speaker 4: we talked about them, Kate Tron, Allen, Nick Singleton, Notre

455
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Speaker 4: Dame's got an entire room of guys.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's you know.

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Speaker 4: Anias Williams, Jeremiah Love and Jendarium Price like they'll all

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Speaker 4: three share the carries and and you know it's it's

459
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Speaker 4: helped out as far as recruiting and some of these

460
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Speaker 4: teams being able to retain a lot of the top

461
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Speaker 4: running backs knowing that, hey, if my number gets called

462
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Speaker 4: ten times a game, great, Like it's gonna keep me

463
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Speaker 4: fresh on me looked at the exact same by the

464
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Speaker 4: NFL level as I, you know, I'm going to be

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Speaker 4: in college and so I can get paid for another

466
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Speaker 4: year or two real money and then eventually go on

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Speaker 4: take you know.

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Speaker 3: Take my crack at the NFL. Hey, let me ask you,

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Speaker 3: what do you think of the bills?

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Speaker 5: Because we just got to talking about the Cook extension

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Speaker 5: and this is it, like the chiefs now they're great

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Speaker 5: and obviously, and I don't think they're going to have

473
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Speaker 5: a fall off. I maybe Andy rebuild is offensive line,

474
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Speaker 5: and they're really good. But this is the year, right

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Speaker 5: If I want to make any other team a favorite,

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Speaker 5: it's Buffalo. Do they have enough for Josh on the

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Speaker 5: outside with Coleman, gear and Palmer.

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Speaker 4: It's so tough to feel like they do. However, I mean,

479
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Speaker 4: we've seen years where you know, we've questioned that. I mean, obviously,

480
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Speaker 4: remember when the Chiefs left Tyreek Hill and then they

481
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Speaker 4: still end up winning a Super Bowl, And so it

482
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Speaker 4: doesn't mean you always necessarily have to happen. Now, granted,

483
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Speaker 4: they've got a future Hall of Famer at tight end.

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Speaker 4: Uh maybe Dalton can Care and Dawson Knox the combination

485
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Speaker 4: can help shoulder some of that. But they really need

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Speaker 4: to see some some growth and improvement out of that group.

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Speaker 4: I just you know, I'm not sure clarkor you know,

488
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Speaker 4: Shakir uh Keon, Coleman and Palmer are are gonna be

489
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Speaker 4: able to carry it. But again, you look at the

490
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Speaker 4: money where they're investing in James Cook. That's probably a

491
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Speaker 4: signal because they're gonna be running football little more balanced

492
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Speaker 4: than they have been. And that's not necessarily a bad

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Speaker 4: right and and that's what helps protect them, right, you know,

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Speaker 4: running the football, playing great defense, but they're gonna have

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Speaker 4: to have someone step up to be able to make

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Speaker 4: the big play when when called upon. And unfortunately for them,

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Speaker 4: they you know, had that guy in Diggs. He's no

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Speaker 4: longer there. You know, whether or not they're they're feeling

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Speaker 4: that loss, I don't think they do in the regular season.

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Speaker 4: I think that's that's a loss that you face when

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Speaker 4: you get to the better teams and those teams start

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Speaker 4: to kind of take away some things, and then you

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Speaker 4: you struggle to be able to find that guy that

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Speaker 4: can step up in the big moment.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: That maybe because you need somebody could spread that could

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Speaker 5: spread the field in those big games, right, like you

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Speaker 5: see allence shrinks on you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look how the Chiefs play you. They're gonna

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Speaker 3: they're gonna play you short.

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Speaker 5: In the game, and and they're gonna if you had

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Speaker 5: that home run hitter on the outside, I mean, that's it.

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Speaker 3: That's I think that's the only thing they lack.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and look at Keon Coleman might develop into that

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Speaker 4: you know he might be you know, that guy at

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Speaker 4: some point, but until until that happens, you know, until

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Speaker 4: you see that growth, I mean, you're just not gonna

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Speaker 4: feel over the confidence.

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Speaker 3: And then being able to win that way.

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Speaker 4: And to your point, look, some some coaches feel more

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Speaker 4: comfortable if they, you know, are able to spread the

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Speaker 4: football around. But I think they'd be lying to you

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Speaker 4: if they didn't feel like, hey, we need to have

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Speaker 4: that one guy though we know we can depend upon

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Speaker 4: in that critical moment. And I don't know that they,

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Speaker 4: you know, feel like again they have that guy unless

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe maybe Bill's fans feel like I'm

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Speaker 4: wrong and maybe Coleman will become that But I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Maybe I hope he does. I listen, I love McDermott.

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Speaker 5: I'm a big Sean McDermott guy. I know Sean from

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Speaker 5: back in the day. He's great people, great family and

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Speaker 5: uh and I listen, if there is a fan base

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Speaker 5: that deserves to win, like.

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Speaker 3: Justice, it's that fan base.

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Speaker 5: I mean, let's be real, like they deserve if Justice

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Speaker 5: says anything, they deserve a super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I mean I think there's a few up there.

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Speaker 4: I was I was thinking, I got of the rust

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Speaker 4: Bell Cleveland, Detroit, any one of those three. I'm waiting

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Speaker 4: for you guys to get a Super Bowl Detroit Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yes, oh no, it's true.

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Speaker 5: Those three, those three franchises, Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo. They're great fans, right,

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Speaker 5: the tremendous football people and they're loyal.

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Speaker 3: You know, sports Justice sit smile on.

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Speaker 1: It.

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Speaker 4: Should Well, we'll see if if it really does. I

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Speaker 4: just love the fact that, you know, the Bill's new stadium,

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Speaker 4: it's still going to encompass some of the elements.

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Speaker 3: Apparently they've dug it.

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Speaker 4: Down solo and I'm not sure if you saw this

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Speaker 4: that the wind really isn't going to impact the game.

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Speaker 4: At least that's what they're saying based on the construct

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Speaker 4: of this stadium, that it will be an outdoor venue,

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Speaker 4: but the wind should not impact the actual game conditions.

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Speaker 4: So I got to read more than that and figure

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Speaker 4: out how that's the case. I mean, you'd figure if

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Speaker 4: it's open air at some point wind could could have

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Speaker 4: to play a factor. I just remember the old stadium,

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Speaker 4: that thing would swirl and I'll never forget because one

560
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Speaker 4: of my first one of my first starts was on

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Speaker 4: Monday night football there, and it was cold and it

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Speaker 4: was windy, and when we would I would walk around

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Speaker 4: the field with Phil Dawson and dave's Astido or a

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Speaker 4: kicker and punter, and we talk about, you know, kind

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Speaker 4: of the wind to different spots. Because if you're a

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Speaker 4: midfield and you're throwing a go ball on the left

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Speaker 4: hand inside of that back pilon, it's gonna get knocked down.

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Speaker 4: You throw it to the right side, the right pylon,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna carry it out of bounds. And so it's

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Speaker 4: almost like hitting like a golf shot. You were really

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Speaker 4: talking about the way you had to kind of adjust

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Speaker 4: how you're gonna throw based on where.

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Speaker 3: You were on the field.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think coming out, I'm throwing a go

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Speaker 4: ball down the left hand side, it's gonna be into

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Speaker 4: the wind. You don't have to flip your thinking, and like,

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Speaker 4: those are little things you'll think about. But man, it

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Speaker 4: that wasn't It was always an interesting stadium to have

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Speaker 4: to play in and try to throw the football and

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Speaker 4: then pierce through that win.

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Speaker 3: To me, how Allen will cut throw it? How he

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Speaker 3: could cut through the win?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, he's got a strong with a farm and

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Speaker 4: he spins it. Well, Like that's one thing that you

585
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Speaker 4: see a lot of these a lot of these guys

586
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Speaker 4: to come out of college. You know, they really try

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Speaker 4: to hone in on trying to spin the football because

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Speaker 4: if you throw it, if you throw a wobbly ball, man,

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Speaker 4: that thing is never gonna make it through like you

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Speaker 4: always did, like the Kurt Warner, you and Peyton back

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Speaker 4: in the day. I mean, those guys are playing inside

592
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Speaker 4: for half their games. We thank god because they would

593
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Speaker 4: not be able to throw the through that sort of win.

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Speaker 4: But you know, it's a little more comforting to be

595
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Speaker 4: able to play in the confines of being indoors and

596
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Speaker 4: not have to deal with those sorts of conditions.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

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Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

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Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.

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Speaker 5: Now joining us like he does each week, co host

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Speaker 5: of Petro Said Money, Great analyst Fox College Football. Follow

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Speaker 5: him on Twitter at the Old p Petros Papa Vegas. Petros.

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Speaker 5: Good morning, my brother, Good morning.

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Speaker 3: Hello Hi Anthony, Hi Brady, Hi Petros. What's going on? Brother?

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Speaker 3: Everything's all right? Good, I'm I'm here, I'm I'm here,

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Speaker 3: I'm up. I'm ready to go. No issues this week

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Speaker 3: with the alarm or anything. No, not really, no, No,

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Speaker 3: I'm good. We have an event today in uh in

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Speaker 3: Anaheim for the last Dodger Angel game of the week

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Speaker 3: and U sho hey Otani's going to pitch. So we

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Speaker 3: have a show in Anaheim at Brewery X. It starts

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Speaker 3: at two if anybody's in Los Angeles and interested. So

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Speaker 3: that's that's awesome. Yea going on today? How ridiculous is Otanio? Seriously?

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Speaker 3: Last night gets robbed by the triple play right, ropes

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Speaker 3: that ball.

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Speaker 5: And then boom bomb top of the night wins the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they didn't win though, right, but you get my

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Speaker 3: you know, comes up kluts. Yeah, well they went ahead

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Speaker 3: with that. Kenley Janssen a former Dodger closer who everybody loves. Actually,

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Speaker 3: the Dodgers probably should have signed him. He's a lot

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Speaker 3: cheaper than a lot of the guys they signed, and

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Speaker 3: he's having a lot better year and maybe they'll sign

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Speaker 3: him next year because he wants to stay in southern California.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that was a pretty dramatic moment to see

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Speaker 3: Kenlee Jansen, who was such a great Dodger for so

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Speaker 3: long and a record breaking closer for them versus Otani.

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Speaker 3: And last night Jansen went up there and just blew

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Speaker 3: the Dodgers away a couple of strikeouts. And to see

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Speaker 3: Otani do that was pretty impressive. And he's a great player.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's a lot of fun to watch. He's

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Speaker 3: definitely on his own program and there's a lot that

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Speaker 3: comes with it. But you know, it's hard to imagine.

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Speaker 3: The Dodgers are such a cash cow and have always been.

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Speaker 3: The brand is just huge, and in the city of

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles it means so much and always has and

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Speaker 3: they bring in what three four million almost fans a year.

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Speaker 3: It's the most visited sport on Earth. And all of

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Speaker 3: these things were the truth before Otani came, and the

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00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: fact that Otani's there now, and just the branding, the

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Speaker 3: Japanese interest, the Japanese tourists that show up on days

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Speaker 3: that they're not even playing and buy thousands of dollars

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Speaker 3: worth of merchandise by the bus load. It really is

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Speaker 3: a phenomenon. And like you said, Anthony, I mean, the guy,

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Speaker 3: it's not like he just goes up there and strikes

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Speaker 3: out all the time, though he has struck out a

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Speaker 3: lot this year, and the strikeout's always been part of

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Speaker 3: his game. But for him to perform like he does

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Speaker 3: when he does is pretty remarkable. A triple play which

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Speaker 3: you don't see, and then the home run against Kenley

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Speaker 3: and yeah, but they.

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Speaker 5: Did lose last thing, and then Bretty go for it.

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Speaker 5: But I'm just curious, is there concern? How much concern

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Speaker 5: is there of the Pods because now they're starting to

654
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 5: play hot, right, they had the great trade deadline and

655
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 5: now they're playing good. They've now tied the Dodgers. How

656
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 5: much concern is delvasin Diego. I think there's a lot

657
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 5: of concern.

658
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: I mean, they made the bunch of moves at the deadline,

659
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: and they have a real chip on their shoulder. I mean,

660
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: up until last year, the Dodgers, other than the COVID Championship,

661
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 3: and everybody kind of rolls their eyes at those the

662
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: Dodgers had underperformed in the playoffs. Last year, all of

663
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 3: those stigmas got erased. But we've been dealing with the

664
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: Dodgers running away with a division and they end up

665
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 3: losing to the Diamondbacks, a team they dominated the whole

666
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 3: year and then they losing the playoffs of the Diamondbacks

667
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: or they losing the playoffs to the Curly w where

668
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 3: they losing the playoffs of the Padres, which happened not

669
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 3: long ago. Most people the general consensus was that Padres

670
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 3: Dodgers was the best series of the playoffs last year,

671
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 3: and whoever won that series was going to win the

672
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 3: World Series because those were the two best teams. Whether

673
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 3: that was true or not, that is how it shook out.

674
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 3: So I think there's a lot of concern there's going

675
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: to be a hell of a series coming up this weekend.

676
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: They're tied right now, and to think that the Dodgers,

677
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: with this payroll and the way everybody was talking in

678
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 3: the offseason, are in this position in a very heated

679
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 3: divisional about as the season goes on, I think shocks

680
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 3: a lot of people, because there was they had a

681
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: nine game lead in July. Early July, the Dodgers had

682
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: a nine game lead, and now that has all but disappeared,

683
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: and we got a series coming up this weekend, So

684
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 3: a lot of reasons to stay tuned to the Blowtorch

685
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: on a five to seven LA Sports here.

686
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 4: In Los Angeles, that's right, that's right. And one more

687
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: reason is the real estate issue that's going on. Can

688
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 4: we dive a little bit deeper into that with Otani?

689
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 3: It's not like I know much about it, but it

690
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 3: is interesting. I mean, this is what two years in

691
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 3: a row, and there's two stories about him dealing in

692
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 3: the world of not baseball or somebody around him dealing

693
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 3: in the world of not baseball. And we're talking about crazy, weird,

694
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 3: shady business dealings. The epe Mitsuhara thing, which he was

695
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 3: very quickly exonerated of by the FBI. Some people more

696
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 3: skeptical about that than others. And then this, which is

697
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: I need to talk to my litigator real estate friend

698
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 3: to understand it a little bit better. But it looks

699
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: like they got involved with somebody, you know, a La

700
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: Reggie Bush in a much different situation. They got involved

701
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 3: with somebody that somebody had all their eggs in that basket,

702
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: that somebody ended up one way or another feeling screwed over,

703
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 3: and then publicly assuming the guy. So we'll see what happens.

704
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's a little bit of a curveball, no

705
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: pun intended, didn't seem to affect him much.

706
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 5: Last night, though, Listen, we talked about this earlier and

707
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 5: I'm dying to get your thoughts on it. So the

708
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 5: whole MATERI Venmo situation. Are you a Venmo man?

709
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 3: No, that's funny because most people know how that work.

710
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 3: But if I don't know how to send a transaction

711
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 3: for money on my phone other than to buy something

712
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: for myself, like something stupid like a hat or a

713
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: T shirt, you know, a hat that says I'm not

714
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: going to hold my horses or something like that. You know,

715
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: I can buy stuff on Instagram, and I figured that

716
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 3: part out of it out, but I've never done the Venmo.

717
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 3: You know. Usually I just flip it to my wife

718
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: and then she Venmo's, so she does know how to

719
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: do that. Obviously, young people can do all kinds of

720
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: other things. The John mytteers are really interesting story, you know,

721
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 3: without this mirrored controversy. And I don't think this is

722
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 3: going to be around much longer. I think he's gonna

723
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 3: wriggle his way out of this one way or another.

724
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: But last year, Matte, I mean, you remember they had

725
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: cam Ward up there at UDA or at Washington State.

726
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 3: He had come from a place called Incarnate Word yeah,

727
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: and he was up at Washington State and he was

728
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: their starter, and their backup was Matteir who was a

729
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: good recruit out of the Texas area. Last year when

730
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 3: the season started, Jake Dickert, who's now the head coach

731
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: at Wake Forest, he told us straight up like, Hey,

732
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: I didn't know this guy was this good. You know,

733
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: we didn't know this guy was this good, and he

734
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 3: just kind of popped out and started putting up numbers,

735
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: throwing the ball beautifully, running the ball with a lot

736
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 3: of purpose, and just overall showing a great will laden games.

737
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a fun guy to watch and and

738
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: he's a really really exciting college quarterback. So I was

739
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: I was happy to see that when he transferred to Oklahoma,

740
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 3: they got a good running back in Jaden Ott, the

741
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 3: guy from Cal in the transfer portal, and they brought

742
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 3: in his offensive coordinator from Washington State over to Oklahoma,

743
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 3: one of the last breathing remnants of the air raid era,

744
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: a guy named Arbuckle. And I was looking forward to

745
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: seeing the Sooners play this year with Mattier the engineer

746
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: behind the center. As far as U, I mean, I've

747
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: talked to the kid a couple times, and we've covered

748
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: his games, and I can't imagine. I want to believe

749
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 3: that he's that because no one is that galactically stupid,

750
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 3: right when when you play college football, they tell you

751
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: a thousand times about gambling, they talk to you about

752
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 3: social media. This does seem like a joke, and that's

753
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: what he said it was, and I just want to

754
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: believe the kid at face value. I do know a

755
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: lot of really stupid football players that might do this.

756
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: I don't think Matier would be among them. But I've

757
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: been wrong in the past, but I do think this

758
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 3: one's gonna blow over and we'll see him play for

759
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 3: Oklahoma this year. They've had bad luck with quarterbacks though recently. Yeah.

760
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 4: Well, the interesting thing about this is it actually dates

761
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 4: back to November of twenty twenty two, and obviously he

762
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 4: was at Washington State at the time, I think as

763
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 4: a freshman, and I look at it and I say,

764
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 4: all right, well, what are you gonna do now?

765
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know if you look.

766
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 4: At that with kind of I don't know, side eye

767
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 4: or skepticism as too the NCAA, and it's like, well, okay,

768
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 4: even if he did do it and it happened back then,

769
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 4: Are you really going to punish him three years later,

770
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 4: just his because we found out because someone rated on him.

771
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: How do you look at it from that stand point?

772
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 3: You're right, I mean that that occurred to me too,

773
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 3: And the number one thing that occurred to me about

774
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: it was if he was still at Washington State, would

775
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 3: anybody have ever seen this? And the answer is no.

776
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: You know, in the SEC, some weirdos digging about your quarterback,

777
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 3: while some weirdo in your in your town is digging

778
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 3: about somebody else's quarterback.

779
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 4: And and and so what they do with the South,

780
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: by the way, that's what they do down there, I guess.

781
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 3: I mean, you'll see what that board over there, Jo Matyrny,

782
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: Oklahoma's not really the South, But you're right, you know,

783
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 3: I mean they're in the SEC now, and and you

784
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: know it's interesting, uh. I mean, I've talked to coaches

785
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: in the SEC that say, it's no fun to be

786
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 3: in the town because if you're in town and you're

787
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 3: not in your office working, somebody tells you why aren't

788
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 3: you in your office working? And and that's kind of

789
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: that's kind of the gist of it. But I think

790
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 3: it takes a real special a hole to go. I

791
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 3: don't care who you are to go digging into some

792
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: kids social media. Yes, it is really is really one

793
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 3: of the lower forms of journalism or whatever we would

794
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 3: call covering college football is today. Uh so, yeah, I

795
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: would look at it sideways completely. I don't know what

796
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 3: you'd do to the kid. It doesn't seem to me

797
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: like he's Robert de Niro and Casino as far as

798
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: gambling goes, you know, with the big stupid glasses on

799
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: stage blankly yeah, and a bunch of a bunch of

800
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 3: and horse racing.

801
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 4: I don't think we're Matthew McConaughey from like was it

802
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 4: One for the money.

803
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 3: Two for the money, two for rip that money out

804
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 3: of my talents? Yeah? Yeah, so yeah, I don't know.

805
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not a nothing story because there's something

806
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 3: there and something to be talked about. But I agree

807
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: with you, I don't. I don't like seeing the kid.

808
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: I don't think he's a bad kid. I don't like

809
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 3: seeing it. But I gotta throw this out there.

810
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: By the way, Obviously that movie didn't leave that big

811
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 4: of an impression on me because I couldn't remember the title.

812
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 3: However, the first time I saw that it premiered.

813
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 4: I was in college and Charlie Weist was our coach

814
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 4: and he took our entire team.

815
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: And go see that.

816
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 4: I want to say it was maybe during a bye

817
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 4: like imagine imagine the optics of the college and coach

818
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 4: taking a bunch of college kids to go see two.

819
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 3: For the model. What was he into it or something

820
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 3: like that. I don't know. I mean, it was like

821
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 3: it was just a movie. It was like a movie

822
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 3: we could go see. So it's just a beauty. Wanted

823
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 3: to go see it. It was literally and it was just

824
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 3: like movie night. It was more of a general we

825
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: used to have movie night, you know. USC Pete Carroll

826
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: ended the practice, but USC football for I mean probably

827
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 3: seventy plus years did a movie night in uh in

828
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 3: In in Hollywood we would go to if we had

829
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: a home game, they would We would get in the

830
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 3: bus and drive from downtown LA to the Paramount Studios

831
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 3: which is on Melrose and uh And and there was

832
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 3: a special screening room there where some old executive was

833
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 3: a big USC guy, and we would they would screen

834
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 3: us a movie, a new movie that's awesome. Yeah. Well,

835
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: and you know, I mean, if you've ever been in

836
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 3: a movie theater with a whole football team. I mean

837
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 3: it's every single week during the season. I mean we

838
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: saw everything that came out that you would show a

839
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 3: football team. And then you know, it was such a

840
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 3: practice at USC that we'd go on the road and

841
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 3: they'd put us in theater in a theater, a local theater,

842
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 3: and we'd watch a movie. It was a big part

843
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 3: of USC football tradition that Pete Carroll ended a couple

844
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: stories from that. We saw The water Boy together before

845
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 3: we played sat Yeah, right before we played Stanford in

846
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 3: ninety eight, and it took about five minutes into the

847
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: movie to where everybody thought that I was exactly like

848
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 3: Bobby Bouchet and filled with rage and shame and and

849
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 3: hatred towards myself. And they showed us Almost Famous, which

850
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: was a very kind of a more mushy movie for

851
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: the football team to see together, but everybody everybody liked it.

852
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 3: They showed us Gatica, which nobody understood.

853
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 7: That.

854
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: You know, we we saw a lot of movies, but

855
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 3: I remember we were in Michigan City to see which

856
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: is we're usually where Notre Dame's opponent stays. You stay

857
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 3: in a holiday and in Michigan City that smells like

858
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: so much chlorine because of the indoor pool, and yeah,

859
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 3: no it's it's exphyxiating by the time you get out

860
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: onto the field and Notre Dame. You can barely breathe

861
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: under that big sky. But I remember they showed us

862
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: the movie with al Pacino and Keanu Reeves and Charlie's Throne,

863
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: the Devil's Advocate and half the team, you know, very religious.

864
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: Half the team walked out, you know, he was waiting

865
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 3: for the movie to be over because, you know, because

866
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 3: of all the Satanism, and people were just happy about that. So, yeah,

867
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of memories from seeing them,

868
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 3: as they never took a story. They did. They probably

869
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 3: took the team to see two for the money, but

870
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 3: that was after my time.

871
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking, like, how did someone not develop a

872
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 4: gambling habit from that? Because I was very green Petros like,

873
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 4: I didn't grow up in a family where we talked

874
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 4: about betting lines. I knew about odds and all that,

875
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 4: and really didn't learn about it until, you know. I

876
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 4: think someone one of the older guys when I was

877
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 4: a freshman had said something about us being like a

878
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 4: big underdog.

879
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, what do you mean a big underdog? Like,

880
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 3: how do you know that? And he's like.

881
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 4: See this here, kid, He's like this, this is how

882
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 4: many points all right where we're expected to lose.

883
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 3: By And I was like, no, well, you know it wasn't.

884
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 3: Look I mean, in our time coming up, we didn't.

885
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 3: I mean, you and l V was a dead was

886
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: a dead like a dead zone like Kansas football was

887
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 3: for years, right, You and l V was a dead

888
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: zone because they were in Vegas. You would never imagine

889
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 3: Las Vegas having one, two, three, four major sports teams.

890
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 3: It just would never happen. I mean, guys like Eric

891
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 3: Dickerson will tell you they discouraged players from going to

892
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 3: Las Vegas. They didn't want players in Las Vegas. The

893
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 3: whole embracing of gambling by our sports and you know,

894
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 3: it's not new in Europe. You know, they have that

895
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 3: you can bet at the a kiosk at the stadium,

896
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 3: you know, and it's been like that for a long time.

897
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: But here that was really stigmatized for a long long time,

898
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 3: and maybe for a good reason. Having a bad gambling

899
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: habit is one of the worst possible things you can

900
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: have to destroy your family and destroy everybody around you.

901
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 3: So I understand, but it just wasn't something we knew

902
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 3: much about, right Brady. I mean, it was more for

903
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 3: those weird Matthew McConaughey types in those movies. And now,

904
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: like like people, everybody seems to understand what an over is,

905
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: what an under is, what a hook is. You know

906
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 3: the betting line.

907
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 5: Well, it's dangerous and all kid the side, right, especially

908
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 5: for young men, like they have these apps and I

909
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 5: had to get rid of it. One of my kids

910
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 5: had it and it wasn't real money, but it was

911
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 5: like my little one goes, oh yeah, I got fifty

912
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 5: thousand on the on the pacers in the in the

913
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 5: NBA five.

914
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 3: There's a reason that that it was. There was a

915
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 3: reason that it was stigmatized for a long time. Yeah,

916
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: and now now that it's kind of a free for all,

917
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 3: you know, you try to hammer it into the college

918
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 3: football players heads or whoever's playing, like, listen, you can't

919
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 3: be involved in this at all, And uh, it's a

920
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 3: it's a fine line. And then I think it's a

921
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 3: I think it's a lot tougher world for these guys.

922
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 3: But you know, I think that's overall. I think that's

923
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: the case top to bottom, because most guys that I

924
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 3: played with were all an agreement that we'd all be

925
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: kicked off the football team. If we lived in the

926
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 3: era of social media. Yeah, we all would. I mean

927
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 3: we were just they recruited different people, we acted differently,

928
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: and we would not have survived. So these kids are

929
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 3: a little bit more used to being monitored. They're a

930
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 3: little bit more buttoned up than we were. But it's

931
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: I'm surprised we don't have more problems with with gambling

932
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 3: and and and it seems to be more and more

933
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 3: prevalent every year with weird little stories like this.

934
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 5: Well the Cleveland did with the two relievers, including your clothes,

935
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 5: the class A.

936
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 3: He was really good. Who's going to go down? Yeah?

937
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 3: Well first first pitch, prop bet he's gonna throw a curve? Okay, right, yeah,

938
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 3: you know it's it's too much of a it's too

939
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 3: much of a of a temptation, I guess to skillet

940
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 3: on the stove. But yeah, that I do think the

941
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 3: materier thing is gonna be okay, though, I hope all.

942
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 5: Right, last thing, your overall thoughts of the rankings, Oh,

943
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 5: I only pay attention to the Joel Clatt.

944
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 3: Top twenty five Top twenty five. I only pay attention

945
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: to Joel's. No, it's unfortunate. The only thing I really

946
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: hate about the rankings is if you start out in

947
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 3: the top ten, you really have to prove how much

948
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 3: you suck to fall out right. And then if you

949
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 3: start out outside the top twenty five, I mean, it

950
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: takes you till mid October of winning games till anybody

951
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 3: recognizes that you exist. And we I mean, look, we

952
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 3: don't lack TV coverage, and we have a big playoff

953
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 3: and most everybody that that proves it is probably going

954
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 3: to get in. So it's not the end of the

955
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 3: world like the BCS or anything like that. But your ranking,

956
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 3: if you're not ranked early, it can hurt you a

957
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 3: little bit as far as attention goes, and that shouldn't

958
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 3: be the case. I mean, we really shouldn't have a

959
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 3: top twenty five until you know, October, but we do

960
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 3: it because it garners attention and some people like to

961
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 3: watch a game that has a little number next to

962
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: one of the teams or both of them. So but

963
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: that's really the only reason it exists. And again, the

964
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 3: only top twenty five. That's worth a crap, is the

965
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 3: Joel klat Are you? Are you excited? Though? In all seriousness,

966
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 3: I gotta go to ann Arbor. No, not ann Arborer,

967
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 3: I gotta go to East Lansing to start out. Now

968
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 3: they've changed my first game three times, So I'm gonna

969
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 3: go to Michigan and watch watch Jonathan Smith and Aiden

970
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: Chiles against Western, and then I'm gonna come home the

971
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 3: next day and do Fresno versus Clay Helton, E. J.

972
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 3: Warner versus Georgia Southern, and we'll go from there. But yeah,

973
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 3: it's always Look, We've talked about it a whole bunch,

974
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 3: Brady in this space, the college football offs, and we

975
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 3: talked about it in the seminar. The college football off

976
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 3: season has been terrible, and that the stories aren't fun

977
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 3: to cover. This last one about Matier is just like that,

978
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 3: And it's all about the transfer portal and nil and

979
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 3: player selfishness and teams being callous and all all the

980
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 3: crap that we have in the off season that makes

981
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 3: us so unsavory. Thank God we have football games to

982
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 3: celebrate and we can put all the other stuff on

983
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: the back.

984
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 5: Murder, Amen, brother, listen, enjoyed the game today. That would

985
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 5: be fun.

986
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 3: So try my best. Appreciate your your your blass as always. Man,

987
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 3: Thanks best, thank you, appreciate you guys, and I'll talk

988
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 3: to you soon.

989
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 5: He is Petros, He's he's the greatest, that dude.

990
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 3: You swear to God. He's one of a kind, no

991
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 3: doubt he really is. He's a brilliant dude.

992
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 5: Man, he is brilliant, highly entertaining, fine fun dude.