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Speaker 1: I Am all In. Oh, Let's kiss you.

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Speaker 2: I Am all in with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Everybody Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one of

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Speaker 1: them productions iHeart Radio. One on one interview with the

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Speaker 1: one and Only Crackstaff and it's Suzanne French, who has

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Speaker 1: been in my life since twenty seventeen. She's been involved

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Speaker 1: in a lot of goings ons. She was part of

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Speaker 1: the music tour. She has been very helpful. She's been

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Speaker 1: a really great loyal team member for these seven years

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Speaker 1: and hope it continues. She's just terrific. Her and her

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Speaker 1: husband John have been very very helpful. And I met

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Speaker 1: them through my chief assistant, Elina Spinoza, who a lot

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Speaker 1: of you know out there because you interact with her

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Speaker 1: so often online and on my socials and all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: and there's so many of you that I had to

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Speaker 1: delegate all that stuff to them because I just there

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Speaker 1: weren't enough hours in the day. I tried to do

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Speaker 1: it in the beginning, but it means a lot that

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Speaker 1: Susanne will come on. She's a true, true, truly hard worker.

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Speaker 1: She's got a regular job and she does this in

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Speaker 1: addition to so we really thank her. We're gonna's bring

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Speaker 1: her own Susanne French.

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Speaker 2: It's me.

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Speaker 1: How you been, I'm good? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm good.

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Speaker 1: So look, look, let's get started by telling the people

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Speaker 1: how you know me, how we met, a little bit

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Speaker 1: about our history and all that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm trying to think. See, I think we

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Speaker 2: first met. It was twenty seventeen, the run up to

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Speaker 2: the tour, and.

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Speaker 1: I the music tour.

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Speaker 2: The music tour, right, I guess I should specify, right,

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Speaker 2: And yes, that's right. My husband John and I when

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Speaker 2: I helped out at some of the dates on that,

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Speaker 2: you know, passing out miss bands and selling merch and

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Speaker 2: crowd control and just all that, all that jazz, and

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Speaker 2: so we kind of got to be friends, Matt and.

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Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, we had. We had a lot of

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Speaker 1: fun on that tour. It was fun, Yes, And you

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Speaker 1: guys were really helpful and it was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: And I cut it short. I missed my son so much.

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Speaker 1: I cut it. I just after nineteen days, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm done with this. I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we were doing great. We were like Elaine was

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Speaker 1: booking shows like in the car as we were driving

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Speaker 1: to the next city, and it's like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: South Carolina. I wants to now Texas and now this,

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Speaker 1: and there's five places in Florida that want you to

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Speaker 1: come down because we're everything was getting posted on social

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Speaker 1: media in real time and people were seeing it's oh,

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Speaker 1: all these bookings and I was just like, oh man,

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Speaker 2: She she put that whole thing together on a shoe string,

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Speaker 2: and I don't I don't know if I did it.

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Speaker 2: Like that was an amazing effort, and I was. I

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Speaker 2: It was really fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was fun anyway. So first,

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Speaker 1: you know, the fans want to know, Susanne, how you

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Speaker 1: got the job of being my crack staff.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's really just being in the right

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Speaker 2: of a group effort, and it really I think it

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Speaker 2: just came down to I just am a fan of

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Speaker 2: the show. I love the show, and I also happen

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Speaker 2: to have this incredibly analytical, detail oriented brain. And so

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Speaker 2: at some point you've seen the show so many times

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Speaker 2: what's happening behind them, and I just like, these little

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Speaker 2: And so there was I can't even remember really where

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Speaker 2: had done a recap for and I texted you and

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Speaker 1: And then you text me and say is this okay?

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Speaker 1: I don't want you know, and I'm like, no, this

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Speaker 1: she said, yeah, no, it's great. The fans eat it up.

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Speaker 1: They love this stuff. And I dubbed you crackstaff because

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Speaker 1: that's what you are, your crackstaff, crack crackerjack staff. Yeh,

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Speaker 1: do you have any crackstaff info from Live and let diorama?

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Speaker 2: You know? I this is so. I was bummed. I

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was hoping I could join in on that a

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Speaker 2: little bit because this is one of my favorite episodes

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Speaker 2: of the entire series. I think it's hilarious. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: many funny lines, and I can't wait to hear how

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Speaker 1: But okay, okay, well, but.

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Speaker 2: Really, I have noticed that as the series goes on,

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Speaker 1: Oh really, really?

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Speaker 2: The one thing that I that I did notice in

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Speaker 2: So I'm not repeating anything. So, did you guys catch

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Speaker 2: Zach went into the music shop and Lane had the

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Speaker 1: I did, but I don't remember it. What was? What was?

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Speaker 2: It was? It was Pleasant Valley Sunday by the Monkeys.

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Speaker 2: That song was written by Carol King.

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Speaker 2: And so I always I caught I'm a huge Monkeys fan,

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Speaker 2: But other than that, I didn't I didn't find anything

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Speaker 1: Yeah, last train to Clarksville is to slam me when

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Speaker 2: You should add that into your set?

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Speaker 2: We're all holding our breath for.

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Speaker 1: That, you know. I found out that I was really

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Speaker 1: just incredibly terrified of performing in front of people. It's

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Speaker 1: I do not have that fear, but as a musician,

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Speaker 1: it's just why it's scary to get out there. It's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and people are right there too, They're like.

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Speaker 1: Right there, right there. And I you know, I can

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Speaker 1: it's not my jam. I work, you know how hard

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Speaker 1: I worked on getting my voice in shape to do

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Speaker 1: the I'm sorry not ATX but for south By Southwest?

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Speaker 1: Rachel raised a feedback part, Okay, So, I mean I

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Speaker 1: So I was never going to achieve, you know, any

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Speaker 1: what do you love so besides the humor and live

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Speaker 2: You know, it's I don't I really like the episodes

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Speaker 2: this one, and I was thinking, because every time you

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Speaker 2: you could see he was like taking a little bit

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Speaker 2: So I I just I just enjoyed it. I thought

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Speaker 2: it was a good episode. The part I did not

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Speaker 1: Was our favorite part of that was our favorite part

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Speaker 2: I didn't understand why they brought him back for that

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's any of them. I think she

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Speaker 2: I did like Marty the first the first time we

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Speaker 1: I've seen this a dozen times before, where you know,

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Speaker 1: somebody wants Marlon Brando and goes after the wrong guy

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Speaker 1: because they're exciting on what you know, on whatever level

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Speaker 1: you care to entertain that on. But uh, and then

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Speaker 1: there's the guy that is their friend and really loves

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Speaker 1: them for who they are and sees who they are

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Speaker 1: and would be there, but they just that person just

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Speaker 1: does not want to be worshiped or put on a pedestal,

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Speaker 1: and it's uncomfortable for them. They'd rather be, you know,

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Speaker 1: have a different type of experience. But for me, it's Marty.

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Speaker 1: He's the guy. But how are you going to write that?

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Speaker 1: You know, is that going to be full of conflict?

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Speaker 1: And well, I mean it could be, right, but I

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Speaker 1: just thought they should have given Marty some kind of

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Speaker 1: a chance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that could have been That could have

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Speaker 2: been an interesting relation.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I think she could have really answered some

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Speaker 1: questions about herself, whether the relationship lived very long at

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Speaker 1: all or not. She could have just discovered more about

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Speaker 1: herself and through a relationship like that, does it feel

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Speaker 1: forced to you?

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Speaker 2: I have some opinions on this go ahead. So I

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Speaker 2: feel like Zach was a convenience because if you remember

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Speaker 2: back to where we first met him, he was hitting

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Speaker 2: a Lorele.

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Speaker 1: And he.

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Speaker 2: Was he was portrayed at the beginning to be kind

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Speaker 2: of a slimeball kind of character, right, he was hitting

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Speaker 2: on LORELEI he he has a problem with everything. He's

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Speaker 2: very whiny, he complains about everything. He doesn't like the

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Speaker 2: way that Brian breathes.

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Speaker 1: And well, I mean I agree with him there. I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have to.

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Speaker 2: Say when David Goolski went to college because Adam Brodie

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Speaker 2: left the show, then all of a sudden he turns

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Speaker 2: into this great guy. And Lane's in love with him,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like that that kind of took a turn, like, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't what happened. That's a quick makeover that nobody told

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Speaker 1: me about, right exactly.

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Speaker 2: It was like it was almost like the writers were like, oh, crap,

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Speaker 2: we lost Adam Brody. Now we gotta give Lane a

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Speaker 2: love interest. Let's just, you know, pick a random, unattached guy.

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Speaker 2: And I kind of wish that they had brought in another,

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Speaker 2: like introduced a new character to be Lane's love interest.

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Speaker 2: I think it did turn out okay, you know, he

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Speaker 2: he They turned him into a good guy and he

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Speaker 2: cared about Lane, but it just was really abrupt. I

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Speaker 2: just it just kind of felt lazy to me, like,

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Speaker 2: like you said, it felt forced. It was like, here,

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Speaker 2: let's just put the two of them together, because.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what else to do with this, not

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Speaker 1: knowing the realities behind the scene of budget and maybe

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Speaker 1: they couldn't afford a new guy or the guy they wanted.

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Speaker 1: It was too expensively, it wasn't available, kept falling through,

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Speaker 1: they kept offering it to people and just never worked out,

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Speaker 1: so they had to do something. Yeah, maybe maybe that

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Speaker 1: was a scenario. I don't know, but yeah, I agree

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Speaker 1: with you. Here's a question for you. Do you think

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Speaker 1: Luke and Laurel I were meant to be together?

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Speaker 2: Yes? To me, there it was very clear that they

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Speaker 2: belonged together. I know some people don't feel that way,

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Speaker 2: and that's fine, but I think they did. You know,

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Speaker 2: Like I said, they needed some work, they needed to

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Speaker 2: work on their communication for sure, but I think in

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Speaker 2: the long run, they were always meant to be together.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm hmm. Yeah. I watched these episodes and it's

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Speaker 1: just such magic between the two of us. I just

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Speaker 1: really miss it, you know, It's just it was just

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Speaker 1: terrific stuff. What is your favorite era of Gilmour Girls?

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Speaker 1: It was your favorite seasons?

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Speaker 2: So I like season four and five and if I

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Speaker 2: could like kind of create my own season, Like middle

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Speaker 2: of season four to middle of season five are like

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Speaker 2: my favorite span of episodes, kind of the run up

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Speaker 2: to when Luke and Laurel I get together and then

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Speaker 2: you know, the early part of their relationship. That's that's

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Speaker 2: my favorite. That's my favorite season. In air quotes, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I like all of it. I watch I watch all

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Speaker 2: of it, but that's my favorite part.

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Speaker 1: Right. Here's the question for you. Why you know I

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Speaker 1: do a lot of these comic cons. In fact, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be in Indianapolis August twenty five through twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: I mean Indianapolis Comic Con, Indicom Popcorn, and the Gilmore

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Speaker 1: Girl fans show up in big numbers, and the fans

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Speaker 1: are getting younger and younger and younger every time I

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Speaker 1: do a con, to the point where I'm shocked. They'll

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Speaker 1: be a seven year old girl. There'll be a five

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Speaker 1: year old girl dressed as Luke. Their parents, young parents,

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Speaker 1: sometimes people so young that they weren't born yet when

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Speaker 1: the show debuted, and they have children, and you know,

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Speaker 1: they're twenty one years old, and they are obsessed with

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Speaker 1: the show, and their children are obsessed with the show,

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Speaker 1: and they're little, tiny kids and they know about the show.

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Speaker 1: And why do you think that this show has apparently

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Speaker 1: tapped into you know, the generation after generation after generation.

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Speaker 1: Why is this happening? Because it doesn't seem like it's

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Speaker 1: going to end. It just keeps going and going and going,

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Speaker 1: which is wonderful.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just a timeless story. I think it's

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Speaker 2: it's comfort food for your brain basically, and it's just

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Speaker 2: it's a way to escape the craziness of our current

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Speaker 2: existence and the mother daughter granddaughter relationship. We can all

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Speaker 2: relate to that, like all of us to some extent,

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Speaker 2: have you know, at least some kind of Maybe it's

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Speaker 2: you know, not necessarily with your actual mother, maybe it's

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Speaker 2: you know, just a good friend or whatever. But I

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Speaker 2: think we all kind of tap into that, and I

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Speaker 2: think it's very comforting, and it's I didn't watch the

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Speaker 2: show when it first aired. I was busy having my

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Speaker 2: own babies and raising them, so I came into it later.

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Speaker 2: But you know, it just really spans the generations. The

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Speaker 2: women that were you know, middle aged in two thousand

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Speaker 2: are now the grandmothers, and you know, they watched it

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Speaker 2: with their daughters, and so their daughters who were teenagers

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Speaker 2: back then, now you know they're in their thirties or what,

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Speaker 2: and they're watching it with their own kids. Like it

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Speaker 2: just it just keeps going, and I think it's just

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Speaker 2: every it's just a comfort thing, like it takes you

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Speaker 2: back to a time when you know, maybe your life

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Speaker 2: was better, or maybe it makes you realize, okay, well

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Speaker 2: maybe my mom wasn't so bad. When they see how

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Speaker 2: Emily treats floor alive, you know, they they remember, gosh,

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Speaker 2: I remember I really liked Rory, you know, back then,

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Speaker 2: and I really related to her. Like I think, everybody

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Speaker 2: just taps into something different, and it's so multi generational

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Speaker 2: and and I think, kind of veering off the topic

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Speaker 2: a little bit, the pop culture references kind of tap

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Speaker 2: into that too, like the they make references to you know,

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Speaker 2: movies and things that were from the twenties and then

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Speaker 2: things that also happened currently. So there's like something in

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Speaker 2: there for everybody. There's you know, the older generation could

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Speaker 2: relate to things and you know West Side Story or

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Speaker 2: you know, then then common it's about like the Olsen

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Speaker 2: Twins or you know whatever. Like there's just something in

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Speaker 2: there for every.

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Speaker 1: Age range, right right, So listen, So your better half

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Speaker 1: John is camping with your boy right now, and he

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Speaker 1: couldn't be here today, but he's partly he's a big

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Speaker 1: part of crackstaff, John French, So I just want to

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Speaker 1: give a shout out to him. Elaine Espinoza, who is

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Speaker 1: kind of the head of my team, and she's on

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a hiatus back in the East

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Speaker 1: Coast taking care of some folks who need her help.

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Speaker 1: And and so anyway, I appreciate everything you guys have done,

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Speaker 1: and thank you so very much for all the hard work.

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Speaker 1: And you've really made this podcast that much more interesting

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Speaker 1: for people.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, I appreciate that. I hope that people are

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Speaker 2: enjoying it.

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Speaker 1: Well, we may be calling you again.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm around you know where to find me.

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Speaker 1: Anyway. That's going to wrap it up. Thank you so much, Susanne.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: We will see you soon. We'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 1: Best to John, best to your boy and all the best,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk soon.

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Speaker 2: Okay, great, Thanks Scott, take care all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Susan, all right, take care.

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Speaker 2: Okay, bye bye bye

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram at

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Speaker 1: i Am All In Podcast and email us at Gilmour

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Speaker 1: at iHeartRadio dot com