1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: We're halfway through at the show, but boy, we got 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: a lot to come in one hour. The latest move 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: by the La County District Attorney George Gascon. You're not 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: going to believe who's getting preferential treatment when charged with crimes. 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: We will talk about it at five oh five, and 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: this hour the most shocking story I've seen in a 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: long time. I had to look several times at the 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: pictures to believe it'll explain what that is coming up. 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: But we begin the hour with, well, we're going to 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: talk about the Idaho college student murders. You probably know 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: by now since had happened on November thirteenth, three and 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: a half weeks ago. Four college students were murdered in 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: their sleep at an off campus house. They attended the 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: University of Idaho, and not a lot has been learned 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: from the elaborate police investigation into this, involving not just Moscow, 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: Idaho police, but state police and FBI investigators. We're going 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: to bring back to the show Brian from NewsNation. He 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: talked to us last week ahead of a special that 19 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: they aired over the weekend. He is in Moscow and 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: we're going to see what he can tell us. Brian, 21 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: what's going on? Yeah, hey, thanks for having me on 22 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: a young guys. Just actually development just within the last hour. 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: It's been quiet for the last couple of days at least, 24 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: with new information from police just within the last two hours. 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: Moscow police are now saying that they're looking for a 26 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: white Hyundai Elantra years twenty eleven to twenty thirteen with 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: an unknown license plate. They say that car was in 28 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: the immediate area of the house where the murders happened 29 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: back on the morning of November thirteenth, and they are 30 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: now trying to find that car. So they've put out 31 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: a picture of a car that looks like it, and 32 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: they're asking the public in this area to be on 33 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: the lookout. Where'd they get this information? Yeah, it's gonna 34 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: say three weeks later now they're looking for a car. Yeah, 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: that's what I was just thinking too. Why now why 36 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: three weeks later? We don't know if it was someone 37 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: in the areas we saw the car and thought it 38 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: was suspicious, maybe they picked it up on a camera. 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: They're not saying that the people in the car are 40 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: the killers. They're just saying that that car was in 41 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: the immediate area around that time, and they want to 42 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: talk to the people who are inside, so they're not 43 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: indicating whether it was parked in front of the house 44 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: or it was just driving by, right, And no they're not. 45 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: But I'm actually sitting outside the house right now. You 46 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: would have it's a dead end street. You would there'd 47 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: be no reason to come on the street unless you 48 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: either lived in one of the houses or the apartments here, 49 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: So you wouldn't just be sort of cruising by like 50 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: for no reason. But you know, it's not like there's 51 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: not it's not a high traffic road or anything like that. 52 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: So this street homes on both sides or apartments on 53 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: both sides. I wonder how close these homes are. Shouldn't 54 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: there be ring video all up and down? Yeah, it's 55 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: a good question. Well, first of all, they're really close. 56 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: I didn't realize until I got out here. When you 57 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: see it on TV, it just looks like this one 58 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: house and it's there's trees around. It's actually very very dense. 59 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: There's a ton of houses around, and there's a few 60 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: really big apartment buildings, and it's all students and they're 61 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: walking around constantly going to its class. So it's a 62 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: very busy area. It's not like a quiet neighborhood at all. 63 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: Are there homes behind the house? There are, it's a 64 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: little more wooded behind the house, but there are homes 65 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: back there. There's a parking lot. And you mentioned like 66 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: cameras and ring cameras. There's not a lot of cameras here. 67 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if it seems like it's just because 68 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: it's a small town. They haven't had a murder in 69 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: seven years. Like even the businesses don't seem to have cameras. 70 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: The apartment buildings don't have cameras. It's not like a 71 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: big city where there's cameras everywhere. They don't even have 72 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: ports pirates who steal your packages though, I guess not. Yeah, 73 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful town. I think before this it was 74 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: like the perfect place to live. And how are the 75 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: people doing there? We understand a lot of students did 76 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: not show up when they return from the Thanksgiving break, 77 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: and I imagine they're very frustrated and scared. Yeah, we're 78 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: told about a fourth of the students didn't come back. 79 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: They were given the option to do online classes. The 80 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: students who are here, especially women walking in groups, they 81 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: don't come out after dark. Ever, a locksmiths have said 82 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: they've been busier than ever. People are putting extra locks 83 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: on their doors. There really is this feeling that the 84 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: killer could just be like right here walking among everyone else. 85 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: So people are definitely like freaked out about the whole thing. 86 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: It's funny the people are reacting like it's a traditional 87 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: serial killer. They're not acting like this was a targeted attack. 88 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: Maybe a jealous ex boyfriend or a stalk or something 89 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: of that nature. That. Yeah, I think that's because there's 90 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: just no information. Like the police say they believe it's targeted, 91 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: but they don't have evidence to back that up, at 92 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: least that they're telling us. The families don't haven't been 93 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: able to name any stalkers. You know, we've interviewed a 94 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: ton of people, friends, family, No one has any information about, 95 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: oh this person was weird or that person was weird. 96 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: So the people in town are like, Okay, you're saying 97 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: you think it's targeted, but like, how why aren't we 98 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: supposed to believe that at this point? You know, yeah, 99 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean the father of one of the one of 100 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: the girls, Kaylee Gunkalvas, he is making a lot of 101 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: noise about this he is, UM, and I interviewed him 102 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: UM and he is. I mean, the guy is just 103 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: totally torn apart um, and you know, all he ever 104 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: wanted to do was protect his daughter, and now he's 105 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: in this situation, and you know, it's like people unravel. 106 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's I mean, can you even imagine? 107 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: It's like an unimaginable situation that these families are in 108 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: the killer on the run. Um. And then for him, 109 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: who you talk about Steve Gonzalvez. You know, he lost 110 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: his daughter, his daughter's best friend, Maddie. They've been best 111 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: friends forever, the parents are best friends. That was like 112 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: losing another daughter too on top of it, So they're 113 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: just it's like an unimaginable you know, feeling for them 114 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: right now. So he really true that he's hired some 115 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: private investigators to try to help. So what I heard 116 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: I think that may have been um misconstrued a little bit. 117 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: My conversations with him in the family are that they've 118 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: consider there, considering it, they're looking into it there, you know, 119 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: but I think at this point they're trying to give 120 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: police some time, but they're also just really really frustrated 121 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: because they're not getting any more information than the public. 122 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: And one of their biggest frustrations is police have put 123 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: out this list of people that they've cleared, but they're 124 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: not giving any information about what the alibis are and 125 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: they're not telling the parents to alibis, and they're like, 126 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: how are you clearing these people so quickly, Like we 127 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: want to know why. I heard one of the sad developments, Brian, 128 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: they're returning some of the belongings to the families. Yeah, 129 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: that was probably. The vigil was very, very sad. And 130 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: then today this is probably like the most emotional day, 131 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: I would say, just being out here because the police 132 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: chief himself rented a U haul, drove it to the house, 133 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: backed it in, and then for like two hours the 134 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: officers slowly carried out the boxes of all these young 135 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: kids possessions, and you know, it was like you made 136 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: you think back to college. I mean it was all 137 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: the stuff these college kids had, you know, their desk, 138 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: their chairs, their makeup, their vacuum, their pillows, their betting, 139 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: and it was just like, you know, you got a 140 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: sense of like families are now going to go have 141 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: to receive these things, and it's just heartbreaking. Also, it 142 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: tells me that maybe they're done forensically because clearly they 143 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: can't wouldn't release any belongings or anything in the house 144 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: until they've done all their evidence collecting. Yeah, you would think, 145 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: I mean, they did say that. I don't think that 146 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: everything is out of the house. I don't know if 147 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: they left some stuff behind. It is still technically a 148 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: crime scene. I mean, I'm out here now. They've still 149 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: got all the crime scene tape up. They've still got 150 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: a security guard out here watching. At twenty four seven, 151 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: the prosecutor told me they intend to leave it like 152 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: this really indefinitely right now. Just I mean, I guess 153 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: without anyone caught, just in case they have to come 154 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: back and look at something. But they a lot. I mean, 155 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: they they filled a U haul up today. Is the 156 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: FBI still there and what are they doing? Yeah, the 157 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: FBI is here. Um, they've got a couple dozen agents 158 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: working the case. So Moscow PD, which is a very 159 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: small agency, they are still in charge. It is their investigation, 160 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: but they're relying on the FBI and also the Idaho 161 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: State Police to do a lot of the behind the 162 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: scenes work. They're tracing the cell zones, they're running the 163 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: DNA all the fancy stuff that the FBI has, Um, 164 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: they're assisting with that, and we've seen FBI agents going 165 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: out of the house, um, you know, several times. All right, Brian, 166 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,239 Speaker 1: thank you very much, senior national correspondent for a NewsNation 167 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: and one. Can folks see you reporting on this on 168 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: the on the channel? Yeah, check out News Nation. We're 169 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, we're a newer cable channel. Um, we are 170 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: on most cable systems. If you go to NewsNation now 171 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: dot com, you click on the channel finder, you can 172 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: put in your zip code and you'll be able to 173 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: tell what channel it is on your TV. But we've 174 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: been covering this every night. We've you know, we're out 175 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: here way more than anybody else. If interested in the story, 176 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, we've got you covered here. All right, Brian Enton, 177 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us again. Thank you so much. All Right, Moore, 178 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: coming up, the police chief of Moscow did do an 179 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: interview with Fox News. We can play a little bit 180 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: of it and apparently he got pretty emotional. This is 181 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: very frustrating. Also, something else you'd probably need to know 182 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: about this in the absence of a grand witness or 183 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: some incredible information or a confession by somebody. They do 184 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: have to pour through this forensic evidence taken from the house, 185 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: the hair, the blood, that could take a long time. 186 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: John and Ken KF I am six forty live everywhere. 187 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: The iHeartRadio app moist line is coming back day after Mars. 188 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: Is a quick heads up before I leave a message. 189 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: Is the iHeartRadio app, the microphone icon call the toll 190 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: free number one eighty seven to seven moist eighty six 191 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: one eight seven seven six six four seven eight eighty six. 192 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we were just talking about the Idaho murders. 193 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: We talked to Brian Enton, who's you, senior national correspondent 194 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: to News Nation, and of course they've been covering this story. 195 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: Not a lot of developments today except we'll tell you 196 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: they're looking for a car now, a white Hyundai Lantra, 197 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: which may or may not have anything to do with 198 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: the murders. But apparently they just realized or maybe they're 199 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: already looking for it and they had no lucks and 200 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: now they're putting out a public call. The chief of 201 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: the Moscow, Idaho Police Department is James Fry. He agreed 202 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: to sit down with Fox News as Alexa mc adams 203 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: and to talk about the case. And here is an 204 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: excerpt where he got a little worked up, a dad 205 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: with daughters, and that's tough, you know, you don't you know, 206 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: we're human, We don't we don't go to the ease 207 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: and uh just turn it off in affect us. But 208 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: we have a job to do, and we're going to 209 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: continue to do that job. We're going to continue to 210 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: push forward. I apparently use the line this case is 211 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: not going all cold about four times in one sentence. 212 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: I said, no stern will, no stone will go unturned. 213 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: This case is not going cold. Well, he's just thosen't 214 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: just words, and that's what he's hearing. Everybody says the 215 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: case has already gone cold. There's no further leads, there's 216 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: nothing new. Day after day. It's getting very repetitive, and 217 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: and nobody's trusting them. It's one thing to say, oh, 218 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: we've got a lot of information, we just can't reveal 219 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: it because we don't want the bad guy. I'm not 220 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: saying that though. Yeah, yeah, but maybe that's true or 221 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: maybe it's not. Maybe I don't think they have a 222 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: lot of information. They've got a lot of evidence they've 223 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: collected at the crime scene. What but you know, blood, hair, 224 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: maybe footprints, something like that. But they don't have a 225 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: lot of other evidence. This is going to have to 226 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: be a forensic solve. I mean what they do is 227 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: if eventually, this is what we talked about yesterday, have 228 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: to kind of separate out because this was a party 229 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: house of a lot of people coming and going. But 230 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: whatever they pick up at the scene may or may 231 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: not be part of the murderer's profile, or it could 232 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: be part of anybody that visited that. But for now, 233 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: that only helps if the guy's DNA is already in 234 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: a database somewhere. Yes, except did you see the other 235 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: possibility which is becoming more and more common, John, Do 236 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: you go to one of those genetic databases? Oh, and 237 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: you work backwards? Do you see if there's any a 238 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: partial match to submitted DNA, and if there's a match 239 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: to somebody that's submitted their DNA to one of those 240 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: genetic finder genetic history, then maybe they can do a 241 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: little searching through that. I mean, that's solved a few cases. 242 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: That's why I'm more interested in the FBI here. I mean, 243 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm totally given up on the Moscow Police Department. They 244 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: have zero experience, They have as much experience. If you 245 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: took six random people in the cubicles here, right, it 246 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: gave them the job of solving the case. They've got 247 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: the same at experience as the entire Moscow police department. 248 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: Now the FBI, you've got the biggest heavy hitters in 249 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: the country, presumably, and they should be doing something sophisticated, 250 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: like I don't know if the DNA is ready at 251 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: they're too busy investigating Trump. Yeah right, Why don't they 252 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: think everybody who's been following Trump around for the last 253 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: five years and put them on this case, because you know, 254 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: it's kind of frustrating to have to hear quotes every 255 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: day from the police chief. Oh, seems like a nice guy, 256 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: but clearly he's in way over his head and clearly 257 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: the whole department doesn't have a clue and it may 258 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: already be too late. I mean, since year. They have 259 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: to take photographs, write notes, create three D scans. Investigators 260 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: have to go through the scene, swabbing surfaces for DNA 261 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: and fingerprints, collecting blood samples looking for clues. Many basic 262 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: details have not been released, including the exact location of 263 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: each victim, the order in which they were killed, and 264 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: the extent of their wounds, they're going to find DNA 265 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: and fingerprints probably from this guy. Except they also had 266 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: a hundred other students going through that house for all 267 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: the parties and all the other activities going on, So 268 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: that's that's blood would be different. Not a lot of 269 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: the students would have left blood. If they find any 270 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: blood from the killer, right, But again, if they fought 271 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: back and they were able to inflict some sort of 272 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: blood damage, that's in a database somewhere, as relatives are 273 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: in a database somewhere, and then maybe maybe you're gonna 274 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: have something, but that's gonna take a long time. Yeah. 275 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: I saw two different profilers. One who theorized this I 276 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: heard over the weekend that this is a first time 277 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: killer because he left a pretty sloppy crime scene. Then 278 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: I just read one now that says, no, no, no, 279 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: this is someone who's killed before. For every theory that's 280 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: got public for a day, I've heard the opposite, which 281 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: means nobody knows anything. Now everybody's just guessing, and everybody 282 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: gets their media moment to have a quote in the paper, 283 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: a little SoundBite on television, but nobody knows. They have 284 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: not told us, at least publicly, how the killer entered 285 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: and exited the home, but they did say there were 286 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: no signs of forced entry, no property damage, and nobody 287 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: was sexually assaulted. It's kind of scary if you sneak 288 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: into a house in the middle of the night, three 289 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: in the morning and it's dark, and you're in a 290 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: rural area or at least a small town area without 291 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: a lot of cameras. You could get away with this 292 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: if you keep your mouth shut. And oh, definitely, because 293 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: the trail will go cold. Yeah, unless something pops out 294 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: with these forensics, which can take weeks, maybe even months 295 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: to nail down. Well, here's the answer your question. The 296 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: FBI is assigned fifty investigators to the case. That's a 297 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: lot of people, that is, but they're not saying anything. 298 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,479 Speaker 1: The state police has given more than a dozen investigators, 299 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: and they may have some experience with murders, the state police. 300 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: So with all these people working on this, and then 301 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: Moscow itself has six detectives, I'm kind of surprised Moscow's 302 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: police department actually has six detectives because it's a very 303 00:15:54,800 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: small town but padded budget, everybody's friends are hired. You 304 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: might like to know or not. US police made arrests 305 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: in less than half of the homicides in the year 306 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. An analysis of twenty nineteen data from 307 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: the Bureau shows authorities are twenty five percent, though more 308 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: likely to solve stabbings than shootings. You might wonder why. 309 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: It's because to stab someone you have to be a 310 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: lot closer, which leads to a lot more forensic evidence, 311 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: and generally that's more of a personal relationship crime. That's right. 312 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: A lot of the shitty you know, a lot of 313 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: shootings they don't solve our gang shootings criminals. This case 314 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: only has the two possibilities. That's someone they knew or 315 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: someone they completely did not know, right, or that third 316 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: gray area, someone that was kind of stalking them that 317 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: they didn't really know. But this person was in their 318 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: orbits somewhere, right, that's the other possibility. All Right, we 319 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: got more coming up. John and Ken KF I am 320 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. Are you all right? 321 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm yeah. Oh. I almost hit the floor when 322 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: you did that during that most fantastic doctor Charles Manson, 323 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: Holy man, I mean he has murder on that. Yeah, 324 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: did that Freudian slip? Occur. I don't know. I'm serial 325 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: killers are on my mind. Wonderful doctor Manger from the 326 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: from the Idaho. Well, I'm sure he has a said. Yeah, 327 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: that's what Debra Marks remise that you're thinking about. Yeah, yeah, 328 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: I've got that Idaho thing on my mind and things happened. 329 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: Brain is starting to malfunction. Did Manson actually kill people? 330 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: Though he just had his people? It seemed like he 331 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: had magical powers over all those women, mind control and 332 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: a couple of guys and they did all the all 333 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: the nasty work. Yeah. I thought about that when I 334 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: said you have murder on the brain, I was thinking, wait, 335 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: but he really didn't know. He was more of a 336 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: like a cult leader, Yes, right, ordering the killings. Yeah right, 337 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: Well there we go. After five o'clock, another chapter in 338 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: the sordid history of the La County District Attorney George Gascoonne. 339 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: You know he's only been da two years long two years. 340 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: He won the election in twenty office in December. All 341 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: the damage he's done in two years. Where do you 342 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: hear this one? He wants to give preferential treatment to 343 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: a certain class of criminals. Your jaw will drop when 344 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: you find out who they are. We'll be talking Eric 345 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: Sadal from the Lee County Association of Deputy DA's at 346 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: five oh five about this story. One thing after another, 347 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: well thanks to the tabloids. In this case, it is 348 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: the Daily Mail out of the United Kingdom, and of 349 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: course it's New York chapter, it's New US chapter. We've 350 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: got an interview now with an adult daughter of the 351 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: man who committed suicide at Disneyland last weekend. He jumped 352 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: to his death off a parking garage. He was a 353 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: California school principal by the name of Christopher Christiansen, principle 354 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: of a Huntington Beach school for twenty two years, and 355 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: he took his own life. He left behind a note 356 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: detailing the fact that he apparently gotten some domestic argument 357 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: with his wife and it resulted in a case of 358 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: child endangerment against him. He was supposed to make a 359 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: court appearance on Monday. He decided instead to kill himself. 360 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: What the Daily Mail did, which shifts this story a 361 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: little bit, is they talked to his adult daughter, twenty 362 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: six year old Brittney Christensen. She is not the daughter 363 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: of the wife he had when he killed himself, daughter 364 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: of the first wife this is a previous relationship, one 365 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: of his three children he had from his previous marriage. 366 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: His current wife, her name is Marlina. And what this 367 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: daughter told the Daily Mail. And we can't say there 368 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: wasn't money involved, because isn't that what we believe with 369 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: some of these tabloids they do pay for interviews. We 370 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: don't know. Oh yeah, because they're calling it an exclusive. 371 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: Watch how you get the exclusive? Yea, is you pay 372 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: and nobody else wants right, So that definitely taints the account. 373 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: But nevertheless, it's fascinating. She thinks that she was telling 374 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: the Daily Mail that this wife, Marlena, was the abusive 375 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: partner and is the one that tore up the family. 376 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: Marlena has been very difficult to our family for about 377 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: the last year. We haven't had any contact with her. 378 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: I just now started regaining contact with my father over 379 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: the last two weeks and it's been great. He'd been 380 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to leave her. In my opinion, 381 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: it seems like this in his mind, this was his 382 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: only way out of the relationship. Pretty dire and desperate though, 383 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: isn't it. Well, it's if one of this works for 384 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: men or women, If one of the partners is truly unhinged. 385 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: What happens is they're afraid the sayer one is afraid 386 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: to leave the relationship because they don't know what the 387 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: partner's going to do. You know, are they going to 388 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: burn the house down, Are they going to kill the kids? 389 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: Are they you know who knows how there? Or are 390 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: they going to make wild claims that he beat me up, 391 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: he molested the children. That that stuff happens, and either 392 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: side can do it, And you could be very emotionally upset, 393 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: but you're dealing with somebody who's you know, psychotic, and 394 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, if I do the right thing, 395 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: like the rational thing and get out of the relationship, 396 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: what's going to be that consequence? And you end up 397 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: stuck because you don't know what to do. You could 398 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: act as bad as it is, you could actually make 399 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: it worse. And finally, when he got this story which 400 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: made the news, that he child endangerment was all the headlines, 401 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: which makes you go, oh, what the hell? Child endangerment? 402 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: Was that like a sexual attack. And then if Marlina 403 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: had two young daughters, they're not Christensen's daughters. They were 404 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: his new wife's daughter. Apparently they married like three and 405 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: a half years ago. Right, So they didn't add with 406 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: some kind of argument which resulted in this child endangerment case. Right, 407 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: so it didn't explain what Marlina said he did to 408 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: the kids. No, no, no. In his suicide note, he 409 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: basically just said he never touched anybody, he would never 410 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: do that, and basically making it sound like even Marlena 411 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: regrets the police calling the police at night. But you 412 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: know how it is with the way the system is. 413 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: If a woman calls and says, hey, he struck me 414 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: or he struck the daughters, you're done. It doesn't matter 415 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: if it isn't true. You're done. You get the headlines, 416 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: you'll lose your job, you get your reputation, reputation, destroy 417 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: it all. All your friends will think that forever. That's 418 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: it's It's like a nuclear weapon that some people pull 419 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: in order to gain control of the relationship. If he's 420 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: threatening to leave, how do you keep him from leaving? 421 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: Marlena shared with The Daily Mail a text I'm sorry, 422 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: not Marlena, but the daughter. Brittany shared with The Daily 423 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: Mail at texts she got from Marlena the wife, You're 424 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: a horrible, disgusting excuse for a daughter and sister. Go 425 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: find your dad, play the hero, but it's it's me. 426 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: He will be missing in the morning. She also alleged 427 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: Brittany does that Marlina would be the stepmother. I guess 428 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: caused six thousand dollars worth of damage to her car. 429 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: After the argument, she said, apparently she got her car 430 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: got keyed. We had footage from her doorbell camera leaving 431 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: the house in the middle of the night and coming 432 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: to my apartment and taking his car. So when we 433 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: woke up, my dad's car was gone and my car 434 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: had been keyed on every panel. Yeah, the wife showed 435 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: a consistent pattern of manipulation inappropriate behavior towards my family 436 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: for some time now. And we know that relationships between 437 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: stepparents and stepchildren could sometimes be fraught with a lot 438 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: Often it just I don't know, there's some weird biological 439 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: surge that some people have towards the other kids in 440 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: the family. I've seen that a couple of times among 441 00:23:54,119 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: friends where the attitude towards the partners kids very different 442 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: than the attitudes toward their own kids or kids that 443 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: they had together. I mean, I Brittany said she'd done 444 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: a lot personally to my family recently, to myself, to 445 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: my husband. There's a lot going on. This is very complicated. 446 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: In my opinion, it was a slow chipping away at 447 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: my dad's soul for much longer than just two weeks. 448 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: And I wish at this stage she could have just 449 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: left my family alone, so that could have added to 450 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: all the angst for this poor man, that whatever was 451 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: going on between him and his wife, his daughter got 452 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: dragged into this and it was getting ugly between all 453 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: of them. It's one thing when it's what's kept behind 454 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: closed doors, but when it goes public and your reputation 455 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: has been destroyed, and you know, no one will ever 456 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: know the truth, right, no matter what anybody says, everyone 457 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: will always have doubts. Well, maybe he did do something terrible. 458 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: That's just the way human nature is. It's terrible part 459 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: of human nature. But where are you gonna go? Where 460 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: are you gonna go to prove that something didn't happen? 461 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: All right? We got more coming up, including the story 462 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: of the day. I thought, because I looked at the 463 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: photograph on a website this morning, and I wasn't sure 464 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: what I was looking at until I read the story, 465 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: and then I went I sound like John Oh, John 466 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: and Ken Show kf I Am six forty Live Everywhere. 467 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: The iHeartRadio app Our guest at five oh five will 468 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: be Eric Sadal. He's with the La County Association of 469 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: Deputy District Attorneys. And what a story this is. Of course, 470 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: it involves George Gascone, the La County DA giving special 471 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: treatment to a certain class of criminals. You will not 472 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: believe it, or maybe you will because it's George Gascone. 473 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: It's amazing what they think of in their brainstorming sessions, 474 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: their strategy sessions. When you get a bunch of woke 475 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: holes together, what they can come up with. You probably 476 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: have never thought of this. What kind of ground could 477 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: Gascone break that something that he hasn't done before that 478 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: will enrage you. Well, we're gonna tell you. Yeah, we 479 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: have a lot to cover in the five o'clock hour. 480 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: I know what picture you're talking about. By the way, 481 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: we'll talk about San Francisco. Blon Musk is fighting back 482 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: against the city because they're investigating Twitter for something a 483 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: little bizarre. We'll tell you what that is. And of 484 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: course they have a huge drug and homeless problem, and 485 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: that's how he struck back and talking about it. Also, 486 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: they've already reversed the plan for robots with explosives, robot 487 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: police with explosives gone, We've already rescinded. So we'll get 488 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: to all of that in the five o'clock hour. Yeah, 489 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: the story that disturbed me, I mean, this morning, I'm 490 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: looking around from material for the show, and I come 491 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: to it was the New York Post, and you're scrolling 492 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: up because they got lots of pictures and lots of stories, 493 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: and then one picture made you stop and stare, and 494 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. I'm trying to think, Okay, what 495 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: do we have here. It's a person standing there, and 496 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it clearly now, I glanced at it 497 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: this morning, and like a white gown and their face 498 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: looks like they've been made up to look like a zombie, 499 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: like a ghoul of some kind. It's very dark, but 500 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: they're standing and there's a woman in front of her 501 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: buttoning up a white gown and there's a man standing 502 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: behind her holding her shoulders, bars her arms. So, all right, 503 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: I clicked it. You got me right there. It is clickbait. Well, 504 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: then I saw the headline and I thought, oh, my God. Now, 505 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: keep in mind before we talk about this story, that 506 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: other cultures have different ways of dealing with the dead. 507 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: They do. Boy, that's a very In fact, the Latino 508 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: culture is there's the Day of the Dead where they 509 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: honor the dead and people walk around wearing masks. It 510 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: looked like dead people. Have you seen the parade stuff 511 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: like that? Yes, more at this whatever it is, that's 512 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: something i'd show up to. But in fact, I even 513 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: noticed the last time this came up, and I think 514 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: it's around Halloween, the Times actually put up like a 515 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: like an altar where you could go and anyway participated 516 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: in their own Day of the Dead, kind of with 517 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: post something. All right, here is the headline. Family exumes 518 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: grandma after ten years and they're shocked by her appearance. 519 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: So what I was looking at in the picture that 520 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: John described is indeed a corpse. It's been dead ten years. 521 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: Margarita Rosaria dug her up. They exhumed her. Why would 522 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: you do this? Could you imagine doing this to your grandma? 523 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: There's no explanation as to why they did it. I 524 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: think it's just because they are much more comfortable when 525 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: it comes to dead relatives. They want to honor them 526 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: to have her. They may want to visit with her, 527 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: have her over for dinner. The thing is, considering she's 528 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: been in the box for ten years, she had a 529 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: full head of hair, reddish hair. She has skin and 530 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: enough bones to be able to stand there with very 531 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: little support. Right, the guy's holding her arms, but that's 532 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: about it. She's standing there like she's ready to walk 533 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: with them to dinner or somewhere. Although she's got the 534 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: white gown onto this like, yeah, I mean her her 535 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 1: she does not have good color in her face. Well, 536 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: her face is basically skeletal. Yeah, but there is skin 537 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: over it. It's not it's not bomb completely, it's it's 538 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: covered with with with with skin. It's just now being 539 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: ghoulish myself. My question would be, and I imagine it's 540 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: true she was embombed, which does delay well the decomposition 541 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: of right, right, and what but what what does that 542 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: smell like when you open the box? Oh, that's not 543 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: talked about. And this is just I mean gases build 544 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: up inside and uh yeah, rotting corpor don't smell good 545 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: unless maybe after a certain number of years. That also, 546 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: remember they sometimes find people dead in the homes after 547 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: years yeah, right, like the guy that sat in a 548 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: chair in front of the TV and was dead like 549 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: ten years before they found him or eight. It said 550 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: her skin was intact. Do you think it looks intacted? Well, 551 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: it's not torn, and we're not seeing her insides and 552 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: we're not seeing bones exposed. It's just weathers. Yeah. There's 553 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: a second picture where you can kind of see the 554 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: side of her head, but definitely the left side of 555 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: her head is very decayed. Yeah, like her mouth is 556 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: dropped open to it because yeah, she's not skelet til yet, 557 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: but she's It is amazing how much hair she has. 558 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: I will say that that's not a wig. Was this 559 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: woman when she died? Do we know? I don't know. 560 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: There's there was another small photo on the post site, 561 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: photo of her when she was alive. Oh yeah, I 562 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: see that she had short white hair. It looks like 563 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: a man. Yeah, I don't I don't know. It's got short, 564 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: completely white hair. Yeah, right, I guess this was she 565 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: had a die job before she died. She's kind of 566 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: scowling in that picture, like, yeah, don't take my picture. Yeah, Well, 567 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: you know what she looked like. She looks like she 568 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: has like one of the most facial masks that sometimes 569 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: women have when they get yes when they go to 570 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: the spa, right, Deborah Morre gets that yes right, like 571 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: you see these pictures. I don't want this is absolutely 572 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: kind of amazing. It's almost hard not to look at 573 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: I'll hold it up to the camera, free you see. 574 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: Oh wow, do you see her hair? I do. I 575 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: can't believe they're having her stand. Wouldn't you want to 576 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: look that good ten years after your time. I don't 577 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: want anybody digging me up. No, And I don't even 578 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: want anybody if I'm in a coffin, I don't want 579 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: anybody even looking at me. I think we white European 580 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: bread people should learn something from this, being comfortable with 581 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: dead relatives, and I think that's part of the culture 582 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: that they're not bothered by. But there was some foulishness 583 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: of this. I'm not comfortable with death. I'm just going 584 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: to tell you that right now, especially your own. I guess. Yeah, 585 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: isn't that crazy? The commenters were not kind. Why can't 586 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: they let a poor old lady rest in peace? Why 587 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: did they have to dig her up? Yeah? Leave me alone? 588 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: When I go on pictures in a video of the 589 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: whole thing. Yeah, don't don't come bothering me. I don't 590 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: want to hear from you. I don't. It looks like 591 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: I don't care how much you miss me. This is 592 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: the actual graveyard. You can see the gates behind it, 593 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: and the name Amelia Verrez is in the Dominican Republican. 594 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: Is this a thing in the Dominican Republic to exhoom 595 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: family members after they die and bring them home for 596 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: dinner for a weekend us them up? Yeah? I don't know. Um, 597 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: it's a pretty gam A small crowd gathered to watch 598 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: the aftermath of the exhumation. They had a parade kind of. 599 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: I guess people were curious, you're really going to do 600 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: this with grandma? We want to come watch? All right, 601 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: when we come back, we're going to talk about the 602 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: latest chapter in the sordid history of only two years. 603 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: LA County District Attorney George Gascon I think it's two 604 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: years this week. It is. He took office the first 605 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: week of December twenty twenty. Yeah, yep. And he has 606 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: another policy out and it does affect a certain class 607 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: of criminals getting preferential treatment. Eric Sadov, vice president of 608 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: the Association for Deputy Das will be on next Johnny 609 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: ken calf I AM six forty Live Everywhere, the iHeartRadio 610 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: app and Deborah Mark Live in the twenty four Our 611 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: Calf True