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Speaker 2: At the RNC. What an incredible show tonight, And I'm.

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Speaker 1: Right, all right, let's put a bow on this failed

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Speaker 2: One guy, Blake Moore, voted no.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday, But the rumor is he voted no in a

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Speaker 1: So he may have been helping us, saving us. But

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Speaker 1: what does it matter to impeach Mayorcis at all? Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about that. Why does this matter? Because let's be honest, tangibly,

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Speaker 2: Who's going to replace.

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Speaker 1: Him another communist, another open borders communist who's going to

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Speaker 1: So why does it matter that if we just get

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Speaker 1: does it matter. Well, listen, this part gets extremely uncomfortable

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Speaker 2: I know in this.

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Speaker 1: Feminized America or the anti bullying programs that every child

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Speaker 2: Your mommy and what.

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Speaker 1: In real life, you have to hit back if somebody

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Speaker 1: the nose. One day, while Donald Trump was president, Democrats

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Speaker 2: I have ever seen before in my life.

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Speaker 1: Impeachment was a huge deal before Donald Trump took over

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Speaker 2: It was just blind rage at any cost.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what are we going to do to make sure

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Speaker 1: It had nothing to do with Trump. This is who

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Speaker 1: Because it's embarrassing. It's an election year, it's humiliating. If

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Speaker 1: It's humiliating for Joe Biden, it's humiliating for Mayorcus. We

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Speaker 2: You cannot win.

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Speaker 1: We can never take this country back without them feeling pain.

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Speaker 1: every few months. Jesse, that's ridiculous. Yes, it's ridiculous. It's

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Speaker 1: So why did this impeachment vote fail yesterday? Well, the

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Speaker 1: Blackmail and politics. It's not just something you watch on

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Speaker 1: This is a total theory I don't have any evidence

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Speaker 3: I want to thank you for leading an agency, as

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Speaker 1: Mike Gallagher is and not on one of these losers

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, I can't do it. I can't

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Speaker 1: And this is what drives me crazy about conservatism. What

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Speaker 2: Reference the Constitution or.

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Speaker 1: The Founders, not as the wonderful document that limited the

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Speaker 4: Later Mayorcis is guilty of maladministration, neglect of duties, malfeasan's

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Speaker 5: The American founders specifically rejected them at the Constitutional Convention,

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Speaker 5: and the reason was they didn't want impeachment twisted into

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Speaker 1: There's already a new definition of impeachment. They already did

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Speaker 1: from now to the end of time. They made that choice.

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Speaker 2: It is time to come for James Langford, senator. Now

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Speaker 1: Well, he may be a useless idiot, but he has

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Speaker 2: Here's the Senator today.

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Speaker 6: In fact, I had a popular commentator four weeks ago

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Speaker 2: You have wonderful taste.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that may have made you uncomfortable, but I'm right

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't four weeks ago, quick telling lies. All right, now,

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Speaker 2: Let's do this. Let's clean up your liver. I need

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Speaker 8: Every day between now and November. The American people are

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Speaker 8: gonna know that the only reason the border is not

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Speaker 8: For example, we still need a path for documentation for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, joining me now, Senator Ron Johnson from the state

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Speaker 1: of Wisconsin. Senator, Honestly, I've known You've been in politics

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Speaker 2: Does they get old? Well?

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Speaker 9: The problem is these people include most people in the

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Speaker 9: for their open border positions. So it's not a level

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Speaker 2: Into their hands.

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Speaker 9: You know, we've taken a subject that the vast majority

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Speaker 2: They want a secure border, and we entered a.

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Speaker 9: Process of secret negotiations with Democrats in the Senate and

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Speaker 9: We're not going to challenge him in the court like

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Speaker 9: A Democrat president could easily secure the border. It was

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Speaker 2: Again, this bill was so.

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Speaker 9: Awful, that's the reason went down in flames in under

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Speaker 1: Are there moderate Democrats when it comes to illegal immigration?

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Speaker 1: Tell me there's one or two Democrats when the cameras

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Speaker 2: That tells you an awful lot that does.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Mitch McConnell and needing to go, you were

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Speaker 10: Is the time for Mitch McConnell.

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Speaker 3: Everyone here also supported a leadership challenge to Mitch McConnell

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Speaker 1: Senator, that's quite a thing what happened to Mitch McConnell's

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Speaker 9: Well, I would say there's a growing number of colleagues

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Speaker 9: he's very skilled at doing that. What he's failed to

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Speaker 9: good policy for the American public. You know, during his leadership,

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Speaker 1: Ok, assuming he's on his last legs as leading the

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Speaker 9: Well, first of all, I'd prefer not to. Again, it's

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Speaker 9: And where I've seen him as a Senator, I mean

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Speaker 2: So that's the problem with Republican leadership in the past.

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Speaker 9: They've never even sought leverage in these negotiations. They've just

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Speaker 9: And I think this border negotiation the secret boarder negotiation.

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Speaker 2: And again, we should be on the right side here.

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Speaker 2: Nobody should be blaming us.

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Speaker 9: This is completely Biden in his Democrat colleagues in the

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is beyond absurd. It is Senator go

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Speaker 1: Speaking of internal GOP matters, Ronald McDaniel, head of the RNC,

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Speaker 11: What I found when I looked into how the RNC

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Speaker 11: Seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars on floral arrangements. And

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Speaker 1: lady who broke this story, bringing down apparently Ronald McDaniel.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Van Lahar, Managing editor RedState dot com. Jennifer, where

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Speaker 1: did you learn this journalism thing?

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Speaker 10: Interestingly?

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Speaker 11: I worked in the criminal court system before I was

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Speaker 11: a journalist, and when you sit through the thirty plus

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Speaker 11: murder trial trials, you watch how detectives build a case.

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Speaker 2: Well, that would explain this.

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Speaker 1: Now, Okay, first of all, what got you to dig

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Speaker 1: into this?

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Speaker 2: Were you just angry one day at the RNC. This

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Speaker 2: is a big moment.

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Speaker 1: Right now, exposing this kind of I would just call

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Speaker 1: it naked corruption, but.

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Speaker 2: Exposing this stuff?

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Speaker 1: What prompted you to dig into it to begin with?

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Speaker 11: To begin with, I was given a report that had

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Speaker 11: been prepared by a background search firm that just did

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Speaker 11: the expenses in the twenty twenty election cycle. What the

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Speaker 11: RNC had spent and showed a lot of amounts on

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Speaker 11: the limos and the flowers and the private jets, and

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Speaker 11: I thought, you know, I should go look at Ron

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Speaker 11: and McDaniel's entire tenure. So at that time, December twenty

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Speaker 11: twenty two, I went through all of that, the whole

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Speaker 11: since twenty seventeen. So then this year, fast forward to November,

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Speaker 11: we've heard all year how fundraising is down at the RNC,

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Speaker 11: they have this cash crunch, and I thought, you know,

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Speaker 11: they had to have not kept up this spending after

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Speaker 11: last year. They had to have learned their lesson. But

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Speaker 11: I'm just going to double check. And then I looked

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Speaker 11: and I saw the continued spending. But she only spent

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Speaker 11: seventy thousand dollars on private jets from October twenty two

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Speaker 11: till November of twenty three. But there were still three

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Speaker 11: hundred thousand dollars of limos, one hundred and twenty five

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Speaker 11: thousand dollars of non essential office supplies, a bunch of

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Speaker 11: money for restaurants around DC, and seventy thousand dollars in

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Speaker 11: flowers in thirteen months, eighty seven thousand dollars a month

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Speaker 11: in management consulting, which was really just contracts to her cronies.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer, Okay, let's pause on this before we go any

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Speaker 1: further down the timeline.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I know it's a stupid question, but the flower number

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Speaker 1: keeps flooring me. It floored me last time you came

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Speaker 1: on last two years ago to break this.

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Speaker 2: It floors me. Now.

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Speaker 1: I realize I'm a dude in a Neanderthal so I'm

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Speaker 1: not that knowledgeable about flowers. Seventy thousand dollars doesn't seem real.

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Speaker 2: What are they?

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Speaker 11: I'm wondering too, because occasionally I'll order from a high

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Speaker 11: end flower shop just to treat myself to some some

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Speaker 11: roses or something, and I might spend one hundred dollars

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Speaker 11: on a really, really nice boquet delivered to my house.

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Speaker 11: So seventy thousand, I'm wondering, what is that per day?

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Speaker 11: I didn't break it down, but it's crazy. And that

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Speaker 11: there's also another forty five thousand dollars in floral arrangements

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Speaker 11: for their donor events, for their fundraiser events, so that's

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Speaker 11: not even including that, So the.

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Speaker 10: Total would be over one hundred and ten thousand.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're the one with the inside baseball knowledge. Here

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Speaker 1: the rumor, although it's why the reported rumor is that

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Speaker 1: Ronald McDaniel is stepping down after the South Carolina primary.

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Speaker 2: Is this because of you, Jennifer? Did you do this?

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Speaker 10: I will definitely take some of the credit.

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Speaker 11: I know from friends who were at more Lago last

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Speaker 11: week who spoke to Donald Trump that he has read

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Speaker 11: my reports on this. I know that at the RNC

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Speaker 11: Winter meeting last Wednesday morning, Ronna got up at a

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Speaker 11: member of breakfast and just shreek about me and about

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Speaker 11: Charlie Kirk and how my reporting was terrible and not accurate.

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Speaker 11: And for days she went on about how terrible my

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Speaker 11: report was, had some of her Lackey's send out letters.

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Speaker 11: So I think by the reaction of Rana, it definitely

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Speaker 11: drew blood and it could have been the catalyst because

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Speaker 11: you know, Luke, we've lost a lot of elections under her,

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Speaker 11: and definitely she was under the microscope for that. And

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Speaker 11: then this report comes out.

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Speaker 1: On the flip side. Let's move away from the Republican side.

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Speaker 2: The DNC.

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Speaker 1: What are they doing with all the money they're bringing in?

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Speaker 1: Is it all on limos and top golf nachos?

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Speaker 11: I could only find maybe you know, five to ten

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Speaker 11: grand limos.

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Speaker 10: They are not.

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Speaker 11: They're spending it on things like they're sending to their

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Speaker 11: their state parties.

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Speaker 10: The DNC spent ten million dollars more to the.

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Speaker 11: State parties than the RNC did during this thirteen month

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Speaker 11: time frame that ended at the end of November. They

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Speaker 11: spent bunche on get out the vote texting.

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Speaker 10: They're also sending money to the.

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Speaker 11: State parties for data, specifically for data, like another couple million.

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Speaker 11: So yeah, they're working on the things that actually moved

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Speaker 11: the ball forward, like they actually believe in the cause

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Speaker 11: that they're working on.

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Speaker 1: Uh okay, now let's move Let's rewind a little bit.

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Speaker 2: It seems like now.

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Speaker 1: Granted there's been a lot of stories in scandals since then,

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Speaker 1: it seems like it was like fifteen minutes ago and

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Speaker 1: we had an election of sorts to decide who the

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Speaker 1: head of the RNC was. This is after your original report,

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Speaker 1: if memory serves me, We had Harmeat Dylan, who is wonderful,

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Speaker 1: and she got her doors blown off by Rana.

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Speaker 2: How did that happen?

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Speaker 11: Partly because Trump didn't come out and say anything for

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Speaker 11: her Meat. He had Susie Wiles, one of his main

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Speaker 11: consultants who was also being paid by the RNC at

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Speaker 11: that time go around and tell the National can may mean, hey,

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Speaker 11: you know, President Trump would really like Rona to stay.

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Speaker 11: He didn't come out publicly and say that, but that

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Speaker 11: was behind the scenes. Also, it's a weird kind of

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Speaker 11: cult within these one hundred and sixty eight members. A

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Speaker 11: lot of them will not read my reporting because Rona

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Speaker 11: told them not to and will say that she has

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Speaker 11: all the answers to the questions I brought up, and

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Speaker 11: to not believe what I say, and that they shouldn't

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Speaker 11: be letting any negative reporting about the RNC go out.

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Speaker 10: So and they follow this. It's insane.

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Speaker 11: I don't know why they're in this position if they're

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Speaker 11: not going to be independently looking at things.

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Speaker 1: All right, finally, let's wrap this up. Michael Wattley, I

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Speaker 1: keep hearing this name. I hear that Donald Trump wants

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Speaker 1: him to run the RNC. Whether he ends up running

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Speaker 1: it or not. What do we know about this, guys?

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Speaker 1: This is a good choice, bad choice.

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Speaker 10: I mean, if he's going to be a placeholder.

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Speaker 11: Told January, I'm not gonna complain too hard, but no,

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Speaker 11: he's not a good choice. He is he brigged a

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Speaker 11: election for his re election as ncgopchair using an app

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Speaker 11: that had never been tested that people outside the room

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Speaker 11: could log into the app.

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Speaker 10: And vote for him as NCGO Pachair.

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Speaker 11: And so there were people voting from Wisconsin or Wilmington

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Speaker 11: that weren't in Greensboro at the event, which is where

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Speaker 11: you have to be in the room. So I don't

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Speaker 11: really trust him with election integrity things. I think that

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Speaker 11: he's pretty much a crony.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, maybe he's the cheater we need. I'm kidding, Jennifer,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate it. Keep going out there and

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Speaker 1: getting it done, all right, talk to Sean Spicer about this,

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Speaker 1: this whole big, old, ugly mess it is. Look, I'm

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Speaker 1: happy Ron is gone or going, but getting late. It's

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Speaker 1: an election year, it's February. It's a rough time. We

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Speaker 1: switching things around. We'll talk to Sean, ask him why

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Speaker 1: that matters at all. Before we talked to Sean, and

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Speaker 1: we talked to you about the timeshare. You think you're

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Speaker 1: stuck in. I know it sucks. The worst part about

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Speaker 1: it is you want out. You can't ever get in.

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Speaker 1: I know you can't ever get in because everyone's complaining

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Speaker 1: about it. Now, I can't even schedule time to get

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Speaker 1: in in. The annual fees in some cases have doubled.

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Speaker 1: You're stroking a check for a timeshare you don't want

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Speaker 1: and can't ever use. Stop writing that check. Call lone

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Speaker 1: Star Transfer instead. They will legally and permanently get you out.

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Speaker 1: They will set you free from that timeshare burden. But

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Speaker 1: they can't do it unless you call them. When you

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Speaker 1: call them, you understand they're going to guarantee it right

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Speaker 1: in writing. They're going to give you a specific timeframe.

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Speaker 1: That's borderline cocky eight four four three one zero two

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Speaker 1: six four six or lone Star Transfer dot com.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back, Okay.

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Speaker 1: There are things in politics that are weird, and there

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Speaker 1: are things in politics that are embarrassing. And I'd probably

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Speaker 1: put this Nicki Hayley result from last night in here.

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Speaker 2: So she had a primary of some kind in.

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Speaker 1: Nevada and she got blown out by nobody. Apparently there's

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Speaker 1: no one else on the ticket. She still lost. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's ask Sean about it. He knows all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: You knowing mean now? Sean Spicer, host of The Sean

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Speaker 1: Spicer Show, of course, Monday through Friday, right here, seven

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern time. Okay, Sean, there was a primary or

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Speaker 1: a caucus, or a caucus in a primary, and Nicki

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Speaker 1: Hayley still sucks what happened.

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Speaker 12: There was a primary, and let's face it, there was

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Speaker 12: a primary.

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Speaker 2: She didn't. The caucus is in another day.

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Speaker 12: That's when the delegates are actually awarded, twenty six of

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Speaker 12: them at stake. She chose not to enter the caucus

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Speaker 12: but instead do what they refer to in politics sometimes

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Speaker 12: is a beauty pageant. She wanted to go somewhere that

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Speaker 12: she could get a vanity win, if you will, I e.

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Speaker 12: The primary where there are no delegates at stake. Trump

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Speaker 12: wasn't on the ballot. But as you pointed on, she

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Speaker 12: didn't just lose to none of the other candidates.

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Speaker 2: She lost two to one.

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Speaker 12: There were twenty four thousand people that spent time out

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Speaker 12: of their day to go vote for not her, not

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Speaker 12: someone else. Literally just check the box that said no

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Speaker 12: one on the list.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Sean, let's ask me a question.

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Speaker 2: I think we would not talk to me. Yeah, go ahead,

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Speaker 2: one point.

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Speaker 12: And I don't want to dismiss any actual threat or

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Speaker 12: seem like I'm minimizing or condoning this. But on the

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Speaker 12: same day that she asked the US Secret Service for

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Speaker 12: Secret Service protection, she gets walloped two to one in

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Speaker 12: a campaign against none of the other candidates. I mean,

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Speaker 12: I don't think that was the most compelling case to make.

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Speaker 12: When you're trying to talk about out how strong your

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Speaker 12: candidacy is and they get blown out of the water

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Speaker 12: by no one else.

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Speaker 2: That is ouch. All right, Sean, What's she's still doing here?

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Speaker 1: And obviously Trump's name being on the ballot, They're about

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Speaker 1: to have oral arguments in front of Scotus on Thursday?

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Speaker 2: Is that kind of the angle here? Is she angling

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Speaker 2: for VP?

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Speaker 1: Is she just kind of sticking around to see if

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Speaker 1: Trump's going to have his presidential campaign ruined before it begins?

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Speaker 2: What's she doing?

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Speaker 12: I think you're asking the right question because no one

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Speaker 12: can figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Is she going to be the vice president?

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Speaker 12: No, my dog has a higher probability of becoming the

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Speaker 12: vice presidential nominee to Donald Trump than she.

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Speaker 2: Does, so that's out of the question.

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Speaker 12: The second is is she hanging around because she thinks

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Speaker 12: that there is some kind of political future for absolutely not.

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Speaker 12: When you lose to none of the other candidates. By

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Speaker 12: two to one. That doesn't send a strong signal to owners,

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Speaker 12: to activists, etc. Number three, does she think then maybe

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Speaker 12: something happens to Trump catastrophically.

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem in that argument.

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Speaker 12: This isn't like if the governor dies or steps aside,

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Speaker 12: the lieutenant governor becomes the person. If she doesn't, if

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Speaker 12: Trump for some reason said I want to go join

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Speaker 12: the PGA and I'm not going to continue in this race,

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Speaker 12: she doesn't by default become the nominee.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't work like that. It would get thrown to

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Speaker 2: the convention.

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Speaker 12: And you can tell by the number of non Republicans

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Speaker 12: that are supporting her that she.

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Speaker 2: Would not be the choice.

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Speaker 12: So there is no logical reason to stay in unless

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Speaker 12: the consultants around you, who frankly are probably making more

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Speaker 12: and more money these days because of the increased left

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Speaker 12: wing contributions, are convincing you that there's this mythological path

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Speaker 12: to the golden treasure.

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Speaker 2: Sean could can you can you explain?

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Speaker 1: I know it's a stupid question, but a lot of

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Speaker 1: people have never been involved as deeply as you are

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Speaker 1: in politics. This consultant thing, political consultant thing. Who are

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Speaker 1: these people? How do they make so much money, Why

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Speaker 1: do they have influences?

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Speaker 2: What are these people?

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Speaker 12: Well, not everyone makes a ton of money, but what

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Speaker 12: you normally buy into on a campaign at the higher

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Speaker 12: levels is a degree where you're taking maybe a retainer

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Speaker 12: a few thousand dollars a month, but then you get

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Speaker 12: some kind of incentive bonus, a percentage of future earnings

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Speaker 12: if you will, if you make it to hear you

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Speaker 12: get a bonus if you raise this much money. So

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Speaker 12: for example, it might be ten or fifteen percent of

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Speaker 12: the fundraising. Well, again, she's bringing in a lot of

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Speaker 12: fundraising money these days from these left wing donors. If

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Speaker 12: you're the fundraiser and you're getting ten or fifteen percent

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Speaker 12: of the cut, or you're the ad buy guy and

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Speaker 12: your firm is getting ten percent of the ads, as

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Speaker 12: soon as those ads start getting stopped getting made or placed,

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Speaker 12: as soon as the fundraising stops, your percentage goes away.

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Speaker 12: So for a lot of these folks on a nascent

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Speaker 12: campaign like a Nikki Harley, maybe they've you know, let's

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Speaker 12: call it, maybe they've they've sacrificed for the first few

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Speaker 12: months because she wasn't going anywhere. Suddenly everybody dries out

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Speaker 12: and money's coming in and you finally see, you know,

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Speaker 12: way off in the distance, the big prize. The last

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Speaker 12: thing you're going to do is tell your candidate drop out.

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Speaker 12: This is when you're finally going to make some money.

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Speaker 1: Sean, let's change gears here. This Ronald McDaniel RNC situation,

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Speaker 1: resigning in an election year is not a small thing.

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Speaker 2: It's a big thing. What's the story behind this? Is

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Speaker 2: this a.

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Speaker 1: Trump driven thing? Is she embarrassed? Is there criminal probe

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Speaker 1: coming down? There's a story behind this?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, my guess is that. Look, I don't think there's

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Speaker 12: anything nefarious here. I think that she knew that Trump

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Speaker 12: wasn't happy. And as I tell people, look, when you

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Speaker 12: work for Donald Trump, just say you start with one hundred,

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Speaker 12: you know, one hundred dollars. The money keeps going down

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Speaker 12: and you start to figure out sometimes it goes quicker

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Speaker 12: than another until it reaches zero and then you're done.

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Speaker 12: And I think to some degree, some people realize that

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Speaker 12: it's safer to get out earlier rather than later.

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Speaker 2: So if you're Ronald mcdanuel, you see the narrative.

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Speaker 12: She's probably had a couple of conversations with Trump and

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Speaker 12: or his key team and she realizes that people aren't

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Speaker 12: happy with the fundraising, with the operation itself. And the

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Speaker 12: question is do you want to get out while the

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Speaker 12: getting's good or do you want to suffer until you're

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Speaker 12: ultimately pushed out maybe three, four or five months later

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Speaker 12: as you head into a convention. If I were her again,

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Speaker 12: I think that, look, she's taken a lot of heat.

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Speaker 12: I will give her credit for this stepping out at

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Speaker 12: this early stage in what looks like will be March.

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Speaker 12: Is there is an opportunity for There'll be plenty of time,

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Speaker 12: plenty of runway for Trump and his team to get

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Speaker 12: a team in a leadership team at the RNC that

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Speaker 12: they can work with. This is a necessary evil. The

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Speaker 12: RNC has a thing called the Presidential Trust. It's somewhere

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Speaker 12: in the neighborhood at twenty seven million dollars. It can

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Speaker 12: be coordinated directly with the candidate. They've got the fundraising apparatus,

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Speaker 12: the data, the political ground, boots on the ground.

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Speaker 2: It has to go well.

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Speaker 12: It's an arranged marriage that has to go well in

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Speaker 12: order to be successful.

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Speaker 2: And I think that it was.

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Speaker 12: Very honorable for Rona to step aside and allow President

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Speaker 12: Trump to have some influence over who he wants in there.

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Speaker 12: But because you're right, if this had dragged on into

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Speaker 12: the summer months up until the convention, I don't think

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Speaker 12: it could it may not have ended so well.

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Speaker 2: Sean.

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Speaker 1: The City Adams of the New York Post came out

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Speaker 1: and said, and I quote well from Michelle Obama. She's

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Speaker 1: claiming that Michelle Obama told her I planned to run

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Speaker 1: that combined with Joe Biden. Well, here's a little clip

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Speaker 1: of Joe Biden forgetting the name of hom.

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Speaker 8: And I don't want to, I mean, choose my words.

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Speaker 8: There's some movement, there's been a response from there's been

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Speaker 8: a response from the opposition. But yes, I'm sorry from Hamas,

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Speaker 8: but it seems to be a little over the top.

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Speaker 8: We're not sure where it is. There's this continuing negotiation

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Speaker 8: right now.

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Speaker 2: Sean.

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Speaker 1: Your sources are better than my sources. But my sources

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Speaker 1: tell me the only agony that Democrats are having right

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Speaker 1: now is what to do with Kamala. And if it

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Speaker 1: wasn't for Dome, they would have already kicked old Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden to the curb.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, let's remember over the weekend he claims

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Speaker 12: to have had a conversation with French President Mitterran who

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Speaker 12: passed away in nineteen ninety six.

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Speaker 2: But look, I will.

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Speaker 12: Give Biden a lot of credit for one smart decision

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Speaker 12: when knowing where he was in his career, and you

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Speaker 12: just played part of this. He chose somebody so unlikable

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Speaker 12: like Kamala Harris. They don't know that people would rather

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Speaker 12: keep him than go to her. That was a brilliant

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Speaker 12: move if you think about it in politics, because anybody

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Speaker 12: else that's breathing right now would have been the person

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Speaker 12: that everybody in the Democratic Party was looking to to

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Speaker 12: be their savior. He set himself up so that the

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Speaker 12: replacement was worse than him, and.

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Speaker 2: That's the problem.

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Speaker 12: They don't The interesting thing about this is that the

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Speaker 12: rules are such that until and unless he makes a

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Speaker 12: decision or they make it for him at the convention,

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Speaker 12: they're stuck with this guy.

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Speaker 1: But they can make that decision, can't they. Seanna, I

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Speaker 1: realized that publicly he has to resign, of course, or

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Speaker 1: announce he's not not resigned, but announced he's not funning again.

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Speaker 1: But they can just pick their candidate at the DNC

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Speaker 1: if he does.

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Speaker 12: That, can't it in theory, except their delegates are there.

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Speaker 2: Prought us a little different than the Republicans.

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Speaker 12: The Republican process, most of those delegates are what they

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Speaker 12: called bound, meaning that you don't have a choice. If

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Speaker 12: you are the Virginia delegate and Trump won, then you

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Speaker 12: have to vote for him unless he abdicates those delegates.

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Speaker 12: So Biden, I believe under DNC wolves would have to

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Speaker 12: at least acknowledge that he was releasing them.

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Speaker 2: Is the way it works.

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Speaker 12: But I think to your point, they could get to

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Speaker 12: a situation where they'd say you're gonna lose. You've deteriorated

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Speaker 12: so much between now and August, which is when their

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Speaker 12: Chicago convention, is that you have to do the right thing.

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Speaker 2: And that's where I see this.

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Speaker 12: If this is going to happen, that's the scenario where

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Speaker 12: enough of the elder statesman, and I think in particular

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Speaker 12: Joe Biden, has to come to him and say, let's

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Speaker 12: find a way out that you can say, face help,

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Speaker 12: look like you're anointing your successor instead of getting kicked out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, got it, Sean, I appreciate it. Everybody go subscribe

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Speaker 1: to Sean's show, Apple, Spotify, Rumble, Lotube, YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Sean. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Lighten the mood is next. Hang on, all right,

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Speaker 1: it is time to lighten the mood. And something occurred

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Speaker 1: to me yesterday while I was thinking about everything that's

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Speaker 1: going on in the world.

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Speaker 2: Everything we talked about.

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Speaker 1: Tonight last night and for weeks now, your border bail

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Speaker 1: stuff and impeachment and culture war and all this stuff's.

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Speaker 2: Going on in the world.

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Speaker 1: People aren't focusing enough on what really matters. And that

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Speaker 1: happens a lot. It's easy to get distracted when everything

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Speaker 1: is kind of blowing up around you. People need to

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Speaker 1: be focused more or now on me. I'm what really matters.

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Speaker 7: After all, have you seen my dance moves?

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'll get some lessons here on the show. I'm

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Speaker 1: a world famous author, top five napper, builder of sheds

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Speaker 1: on the menu whisper, somebody.

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Speaker 2: Said just a random person said.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Jesse, just emailing to say you're the Man Award

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Speaker 1: winning radio, Grammy worthy TV. I thought that TV was

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Speaker 1: Emmys anyway, and a world famous author. Talk about a

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Speaker 1: triple threat. I could go on, but I know your

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Speaker 1: time is valuable. You're so handsome.

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Speaker 2: I wish I could look half as good as you.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait till you become dictator and make the anti

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Speaker 1: communist manifesto of mandatory reading. Looking forward to naming my

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Speaker 1: firstborn after you, I'll leave you this haiku about your greatness.

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Speaker 1: Jesse's wisdom glows. Political savants, prose, leading with grace flows,

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Speaker 1: Signed anonymous.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who sent that in. I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we'll never be able to track him down,

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Speaker 1: but he has wonderful taste.

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Speaker 2: I'll see him all