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Speaker 3: Being I didn't pay off one of my teases during

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Speaker 3: the Armstrong and Getty radio show. If you enjoyed these

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Speaker 3: bitter foods, you might have psychopathic tendencies. And the list

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Speaker 3: is gin and tonics, love them, black coffee every day

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Speaker 3: and dark chocolate it yes, versually the only thing I'll

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Speaker 3: eat for dessert. All right, I'm two out of three?

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Speaker 3: Which one don't you like? You don't drink I'm not

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Speaker 3: a gin drinker.

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Speaker 1: See it at the psychopath party though, Katie, So two

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Speaker 1: out of three is plenty welcome.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited. And if you're not a psychopath, you you

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Speaker 3: probably have everyday sadism, it says here, which is a

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Speaker 3: person who takes pleasure from ordinary experiences in which cruelty

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Speaker 3: is vicarious.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, vicarious cruelty gets me through the day.

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Speaker 3: That and a little dark chocolate to nibblon. Exactly. I

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Speaker 3: watched down My Cruelty with a nice Gin and Tonic.

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Speaker 2: And a little dark chocolate, so satisfying.

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Speaker 3: Or a cup of coffee to help you stay up

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Speaker 3: later to watch more of the cruelty.

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Speaker 1: You know, if there's a good cruelty on TV, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll want a cup of coffee to keep my eyes wide.

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Speaker 3: All right, now you're Michael Angelo.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let me go back about six months ago. My

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Speaker 4: wife and I purchased these tickets to a show that

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Speaker 4: was we thought would be high action, entertaining, musical, very cool,

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Speaker 4: and so I didn't realize it was the NFL playoff ice. No,

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Speaker 4: nothing like that. But I didn't realize it was the

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Speaker 4: NFL playoff week and I didn't think ahead.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, before before too.

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Speaker 4: So of course this thing comes up and I realized

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Speaker 4: I really don't want to go. She goes, don't worry

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Speaker 4: it's going to be fantastic. You're going to really enjoy

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Speaker 4: it. And I thought, all right, I'm going to enjoy it.

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Speaker 3: I'll go along.

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Speaker 4: So we get to the show and the show's not.

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Speaker 2: What we expected.

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Speaker 4: It's not any action at all. In fact, it's people

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Speaker 3: Too much Grover, not enough Elmo for Elmo and Ice exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you call it Elma on Ice. But there's the freaking

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Speaker 4: So intermission comes, they say, hey, we got more great

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking I don't want to hang around. So I

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Speaker 4: tell my wife. I say, hey, listen, this isn't my

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Speaker 4: So meanwhile, I'm you know, and we lived about five

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Speaker 4: And so I tell her listen, I want to get

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Speaker 4: And so I'm listening this off. Well, I guess I

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Speaker 4: gratitude and being grateful. So I'm just having a private

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Speaker 3: Screaming in the lobby. No, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Being loud, I mean, you know, just regular regular voice.

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Speaker 4: And so I kind of looked at her and I

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Speaker 3: How many teeth did you knock out?

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Speaker 3: I didn't, but it just.

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Speaker 4: Made me more angry, and I said, we're getting out

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Speaker 4: Grab her by the arm, and I said, you know,

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Speaker 7: Wow, Michelangelo, get me out of here before I punch

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Speaker 4: No, And then she says I caused the scene. Well wait,

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Speaker 4: but I was trying to explain to her.

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Speaker 3: I said, you know, your wife said you caused the scene,

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Speaker 4: My wife said I caused the scene. But mind you,

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Speaker 4: I was had. I had a regular voice. It was

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Speaker 4: Obviously they were eaves dropping into our conversation. She apparently

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Speaker 3: Well's yeah, it's a fine line between somebody eavesdropping on

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Speaker 3: It's in the eye of the beholder.

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Speaker 1: Well, see, I almost need to get a decibel reading

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Speaker 3: This one, honestly exactly. I mean, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: I think that's why we've convened this court of hasty opinions.

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Speaker 4: Well, this is why I'm here. I want to know

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Speaker 4: of line. I would never introduct myself into somebody else's conversation.

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Speaker 7: I'm jumping in there. Yeah, I want to get in that.

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Speaker 3: That is a certain sort of person that said, to

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Speaker 1: Yes, I guess you missed the part about gratitude.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I'll show you some gratitude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that that's one of those things.

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Speaker 1: Can you let up on the negativity? Even that would be.

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Speaker 3: Like what do you?

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Speaker 2: Do you mind your business? Ignore me?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't tell me her to leave.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't say anything to her period.

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Speaker 4: No, nothing like that at all.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm getting into dangerous territory. How long was this

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Speaker 3: But was who made the scene?

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Speaker 4: I argued, this woman created the scene, not.

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Speaker 3: Well, just not digging the show. I mean, that's a

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Speaker 1: I wasn't exactly digging innumerable, but she wasn't digging it in.

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Speaker 3: The issue was dreaming that the show effing sucked. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know what, I think.

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Speaker 1: You didn't ask me, but I think I'm with him.

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Speaker 3: So let's getting some attention in some circles for people

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Speaker 3: who watch Saturday Night Live Saturday Night this last weekend

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Speaker 3: that there was so much of the cast of breaking

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Speaker 3: You're not old enough to have lived through the Carol

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Speaker 3: Burnett Show, which was a big popular sitcom, like the

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Speaker 3: and there's still popular YouTube clips, but it would seem

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Speaker 1: Number one, it's not her fault that Keenan Thompson is

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Speaker 1: And there's obviously, if people are raving about it, there's

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Speaker 1: there's much more to it than the mechanics or what

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Speaker 1: can be described pa Oh yeah, obviously, if you can,

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Speaker 1: if you can give a good flavor, if your pardon

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Speaker 1: the fun pun of the show with a thirty second clip,

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Speaker 1: and ain't ain't that great?

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Speaker 3: It ain't that's probably a bad show, right exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's like a song you love the first time you hear,

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Speaker 1: it's probably going to bother you by the third time, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And in being a pigheaded idiot, it took me a

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Speaker 1: while to understand that great documentaries are all about people.

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Speaker 1: They're all about humankind and our struggles and whether it's well,

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Speaker 1: it's a story about a guy who trims bears fingernails

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Speaker 1: at a zoo, and I'm thinking, I don't have any

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Speaker 1: particular interest in bears fingernails, but it's an award winning documentary.

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Speaker 1: Just watch it. It's gonna end up being about life,

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Speaker 1: right anyway, do.

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Speaker 2: We have time for that? While I suppose the podcast we.

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Speaker 1: Can make it as long as we want to, where

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Speaker 1: Joe Rogan we got three hours left, no, thank you,

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Speaker 1: my froat already hurts.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the.

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Speaker 1: Radio show, came across this Twitter thread that I thought

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Speaker 1: was absolutely terrific, and we'll post a link for you

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Speaker 1: at Armstrong and Getty dot com. It's an analysis of

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Speaker 1: how Julius Caesar.

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Speaker 3: Started his political career.

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Speaker 1: And this historian said he was Rome's second greatest orator

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Speaker 1: after Cicero. And here are nine lessons from a brilliant

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Speaker 1: early speech of his that made his career take off,

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Speaker 1: and he wasn't as a young man. He came from

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Speaker 1: a good family, but he wasn't really taken very seriously.

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Speaker 2: He was deep and dead.

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Speaker 1: He had a reputation as a playboy. He had kind

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Speaker 1: of a Matt Gaitsitz's reputation.

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Speaker 2: If I may, he.

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Speaker 3: Said, I got this idea for a salad. Nobody would listen.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, raw eggs, What are you crazy? Anyway?

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Speaker 1: In sixty three BC, the conspiracy of Cataline was unearthed.

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Speaker 1: Evidence came forward to plots to murder senators, burned the

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Speaker 1: city of Rome, overthrow the republic. You can look more

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Speaker 1: into it if you want. But the Senate in Rome

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Speaker 1: declared martial law to avert the danger and said, essentially

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Speaker 1: that the danger is so severe there's no time for trials.

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Speaker 1: We've just got around these people up and execute them.

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Speaker 1: And Caesar thought that was a bad idea, and he

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Speaker 1: delivered a speech in the Senate against summary execution. And

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Speaker 1: according to this historian, his speech is a master class

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Speaker 1: in swaying a group gripped by fear and anger away

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Speaker 1: from acting on their urges. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: we'll go through all of this, but we'll do part

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Speaker 1: of it. Number one, name the emotions your audience is feeling.

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Speaker 1: And some of this if to you who are like

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Speaker 1: more intuitive, persuasive, You're good at you know, you're good

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Speaker 1: at speaking and influencing people. It's maybe a little obvious

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Speaker 1: to you, but I just thought it was interesting to

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Speaker 1: see it. So naing the emotions your audience is feeling

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Speaker 1: that you need them to not act on. Chris Voss

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Speaker 1: calls this tactical empathy. Caesar begins by doing this in

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Speaker 1: order to clear a little room for reason. Quote members

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Speaker 1: of the Senate, all men who deliberate upon difficult questions

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Speaker 1: had best be devoid of hatred, friendship, anger, and pity.

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Speaker 1: When those feelings stand in the way, the mind cannot

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Speaker 1: at all easily discern the truth. And no one has

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Speaker 1: ever served at the same time his passions and his

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Speaker 1: best interests. When you apply your intellect, it prevails. If

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Speaker 1: passion takes control, it is master, whereas the mind.

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Speaker 2: Is entirely impotent.

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Speaker 3: That has been my experience.

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Speaker 2: It has absolutely been my experience.

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Speaker 1: That would be incredibly unpopular in politics today, where anger

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Speaker 1: and passion and yeah is like it's the only thing

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Speaker 1: that matters practically. Oh, I read another study the other

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Speaker 1: day as a tangent that people are much easier to

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Speaker 1: mislead when they're anger. When they're angry, you can convince

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Speaker 1: them of about anything if it feeds their anger.

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Speaker 3: Oh really, that's an interesting thought, and I.

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Speaker 1: Thought, yeah, I kind of got hung up on that

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Speaker 1: because I thought, yeah, not only another person can convince

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Speaker 1: me of something when I'm angry, but I can convince

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Speaker 1: me of stuff that later, I think.

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Speaker 2: That's not true.

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Speaker 1: That's not healthy, it's not good that other person isn't

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Speaker 1: guilty of that.

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Speaker 3: You're more easy to mislead when you're angry. Anyway. Caesar

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Speaker 3: went on to say, you're gonna have a really giant baby.

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Speaker 3: I got a plan for that.

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Speaker 2: Let's see. But that's not enough.

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Speaker 1: Number Two, tell us story as quickly as possible, or several, preferably,

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Speaker 1: stories that appeal to the audience's identity. Stories from history

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Speaker 1: are good, especially if you're talking to a group, Caesar

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Speaker 1: said in the Punic Wars, although the Carthaginians, both in

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Speaker 1: peace time and during truces, often did many abominable deeds,

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Speaker 1: our ancestors never did likewise when they had the opportunity,

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Speaker 1: but they took into consideration what conduct would be consistent

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Speaker 1: with their dignity, rather than what action could be justified

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Speaker 1: against the Carthaginians, so appealed to the shared history of

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Speaker 1: the group. Number three, make very clear what the story

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Speaker 1: means and how it relates to your point. Caesar's point

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Speaker 1: in the speech is showing restraint was essential to the

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Speaker 1: Romans coming to dominate the world. That was one of

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Speaker 1: their best qualities. Restraint is in your best interests you likewise,

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Speaker 1: members of the Senate must see to it that the

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Speaker 1: villainy of Popelius, Lentilus, and the rest do not have

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Speaker 1: more weight with you than your own dignity, and that

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Speaker 1: you do not take more thought for your anger than

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Speaker 1: for your good name. Number four affirm emotions while making

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Speaker 1: clear they are not relevant to the decision, especially if

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Speaker 1: other voices are actively trying to stir up those emotions

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Speaker 1: against your advice. Again, empathy plus reason. Are they trying

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Speaker 1: to get us angry? We're already angry. In other words,

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Speaker 1: here's what he said. Most of those who have expressed

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Speaker 1: their opinions before me have deplored the lot of the

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Speaker 1: nation in well structured, grand language. They recounted the horrors

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Speaker 1: of the war, the wretched fate of the conquered, the

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Speaker 1: rape of maidens and boys, children torn from their parents' arms,

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Speaker 1: matrons subjected to the will of the victor's shrines and houses, pillaged, bloodshed,

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Speaker 1: knacks of arson, in short everywhere, arms and corpses, gore

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Speaker 1: and lamentation. But by the immortal gods, what was the

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Speaker 1: aim of that eloquence? Was it to make you detest

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Speaker 1: the conspiracy? You know, if this is the second greatest

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Speaker 1: orator in Rome, then I believe the guy's right.

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Speaker 3: I gotta read more. Cisserah, that is so good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, number five.

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Speaker 1: Praise your opponents, good intentions, build common ground with the

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Speaker 1: real people you need to persuade.

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Speaker 3: We don't do any of that anymore.

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Speaker 1: Not really. And he mentions one of the guys who's

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Speaker 1: on the other side of it. He calls him a

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Speaker 1: gallant and dedicated man who said what he said out

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Speaker 1: of patriotism. I know this man's character and such his moderation.

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Speaker 1: So he singles out one of his main opponents, praises

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Speaker 1: him up and down, and by the way slips in

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Speaker 1: in moderation is his greatest quality. It happens to be

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Speaker 1: what I'm arguing for anyway. Number six appeal to tradition

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Speaker 1: and self explanatory. Number seven cite more history to show

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Speaker 1: this is a dangerous precedent going in the other direction.

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Speaker 1: Number eight recommend an alternative. He recommended that they have

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Speaker 1: the guilty guys all their assets confiscated, and then be

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Speaker 1: sent to prisons throughout Italy, probably to await a trial.

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Speaker 1: Once the danger passed, who everybody could calm the f down? Ah,

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Speaker 1: then here's the twist, plot twist. The Senate was swayed

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Speaker 1: at first, but then Cato the Younger delivered a speech

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Speaker 1: in favor of execution. The Senate adopted Cato's proposal and

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Speaker 1: recommended Cicero execute the prisoners.

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Speaker 2: So Caesar lost.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, but that brings us to number nine. Taking stance

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Speaker 1: for moderation can be good even if you lose. Caesar

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Speaker 1: probably knew he wouldn't win, but he had an additional motivation.

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Speaker 1: Cataline raised an army of ten thousand by championing the

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Speaker 1: interests of the poor, down trodden, disaffected at Rome the

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Speaker 1: ninety nine percent. When Catline failed and died, the poorn

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Speaker 1: down trodden remembered Caesar as a champion of their lost

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Speaker 1: cause because he was reasonable and just, and indeed he

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Speaker 1: became the emperor and then number ten.

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Speaker 3: Crutons are the key to my salad. They allow a

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Speaker 3: crunch that you wouldn't otherwise have.

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Speaker 1: Anchovies are no.

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Speaker 2: Now, I am staunchly pro anchovy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm disgusted by anchovies. There are fishers, right.

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Speaker 2: Not or something?

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Speaker 3: They are a fisher something?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a fish or a rat, A fish or a

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Speaker 1: shoe string.

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Speaker 3: No, they're a fish. Very salty. Sounds disgusting.

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Speaker 4: Listeners, look for the new show I See You through

608
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Speaker 4: the smoke. This is when a blind neighbor teaches Jack

609
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Speaker 4: Armstrong barbecue techniques and wonderful friendship reform.

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Speaker 3: What your view on Ben affleck smart guy, dumb guy,

611
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Speaker 3: hot guy, don't care. He's not bad looking, He's all right.

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Speaker 3: He was the world's sexiest man once for People magazine, Oh.

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Speaker 1: Oh the last once. He's dead sexy. You can't deny it,

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Speaker 1: but he I think.

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Speaker 3: He comes off as a dope, which makes you less sexy.

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Speaker 3: And in all a.

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Speaker 7: Lot of the photos I've seen of him, at least recently,

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Speaker 7: he always looks mad.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's a drunk, so uh, there's that. Drunks Unless

620
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Speaker 3: you you know, find a way to deal with it.

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Speaker 3: Tend to be quite unhappy when they're not drunk.

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Speaker 2: So I came across this.

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Speaker 1: This was Ben Affleck in two thousand and three talking

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Speaker 1: about the future of entertainment, and I was blown away.

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Speaker 1: You know how much he nailed. Michael, we can stop

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Speaker 1: this right and restart it? You know, stop now, it's

627
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Speaker 1: completely impossible. Yes, of course we can. You all right,

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Speaker 1: go ahead roll it.

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Speaker 5: I believe that the industry has been too slow to

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Speaker 5: embrace and adopt these paradigms. If you look at historically

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Speaker 5: in terms of technologies, in terms of consumer based technologies,

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Speaker 5: you have like basically share where that introduces the consumer

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Speaker 5: to it at no cost, at which point the consumers

634
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Speaker 5: on the hook they figured out, they've worked out the kinks,

635
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Speaker 5: they figured out how it interact with it and how

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Speaker 5: to exploit it, and then you trye to feed in.

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Speaker 6: The consumer historically has been willing to pay that fee.

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Speaker 5: I think I think annual subscription based system is one

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Speaker 5: that works. You have the music business three point four

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Speaker 5: billion dollars a year business, okay, which is largely about

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Speaker 5: one point seven million people in the country, spending two

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Speaker 5: hundred dollars a year. That same people would spend those

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Speaker 5: two hundred dollars a year each year to have us

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Speaker 5: access to basically the entire library.

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Speaker 1: But just in music.

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Speaker 5: And of course you continue to read your subscription because

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Speaker 5: you pay for new music. World would be paid more

648
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Speaker 5: directly to the to the artists. You have less overhead,

649
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Speaker 5: you pay no shipping packaging, and you pay no You

650
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Speaker 5: know that there's this mammoth amount of executive at music

651
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Speaker 5: companies that are glowing off a lot of that money.

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Speaker 5: I believe that paradigm is the most effective productive. That's

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Speaker 5: the paradigm that Adam Smith would most want. I think

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Speaker 5: the air inefficiencies in the market now and I think

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Speaker 5: they're being worked out, and I think file sharing is

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Speaker 5: pushing the industry towards that balance because you know it's

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Speaker 5: because of its availability right now.

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Speaker 3: Well, eventually it's just going to be video on demand,

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Speaker 3: movies on demand, because bottom line is going to eventually

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Speaker 3: affect your guys's pocketbooks if piracy containers, there.

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Speaker 5: Is piracyper movies, and it will be it'll be moves

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Speaker 5: on demand, but it'll be a tiered structure. It will

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Speaker 5: be like if you want to watch it first weekends,

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Speaker 5: maybe it won't be available first weekend, but then if

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Speaker 5: you want to watch it, you know, you'll pay more.

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Speaker 6: And then as it goes to another stage and its release,

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Speaker 6: it'll become less expensive. But there's a lot more adoption

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Speaker 6: that has to happen technologically speaking right now before people

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Speaker 6: can watch movies or at least integrate in terms of

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Speaker 6: the PC web connection.

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Speaker 3: You know, the catechnology is not quite there yet, but it.

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Speaker 5: Will be within I would say five years.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty impossive. And he drops in Adam Smith in there.

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Speaker 3: I changed my mind about Ben Affleck.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how far ahead of his

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Speaker 1: time was, but if I'd been listening to that and

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Speaker 1: had some cash around, I might have thought, Wow, people

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Speaker 1: are going to be streaming music instead of buying it physically.

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Speaker 1: I ought to get on the ground floor of whoever's

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Speaker 1: doing that.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember what was going on in two thousand

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Speaker 3: and three, that's clear back in like Napster days, wasn't

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Speaker 3: it Like.

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Speaker 7: That's exactly because I was trying to think, why would

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Speaker 7: he be talking about this? But this is when Napster

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Speaker 7: and LimeWire were really big for people pirrating music.

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Speaker 3: Now, Michael, you or someone that you knew, not you,

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Speaker 3: you wouldn't do that. Now I've someone you knew used

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Speaker 3: to get pirated movies like somehow do you remember how

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Speaker 3: they had all.

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Speaker 4: Sorts of burning DVD software that yeah, people could do and.

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Speaker 3: They would just find him on websites online.

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Speaker 4: You could find him online, you could uh take to

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Speaker 4: physical media and then copy it. There are things that

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Speaker 4: got around the You know.

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Speaker 3: Can that same person still do that to this day

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Speaker 3: or is it harder now?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you can.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can definitely do it today. But it just

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Speaker 3: not makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Find point that's yeah, it doesn't make many sense.

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Speaker 1: So I guess Ben Affleck's point was what you're calling

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Speaker 1: pirrating and and file sharing and all that is clearly

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Speaker 1: the way things are going and and and.

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Speaker 3: Well you didn't he didn't catch his his uh term

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Speaker 3: and for whatever reason, his Boston accent was really coming

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Speaker 3: out there. Did he not work as hard back then

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Speaker 3: to get rid of his his share where it's wicked

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Speaker 3: kiss and smart the share where.

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Speaker 2: You got to have the shareware.

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Speaker 3: That was kind of funny. Oh yeah, with the sharewere.

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Speaker 8: Packy cots, Jimmy's getting He's got shareware for you. You

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Speaker 8: give you a floppy diss just take it from him. Well,

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Speaker 8: it's another How smart is that Celebrity Wednesday?

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Speaker 3: Next Wednesday will do Leonard DiCaprio Idiot or Genius, Armstrong

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Speaker 3: and Getty