WEBVTT - Episode 416 w/ Steve Rifkind and DJ Cassidy 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:16.120 He is drink Champs, motherfucking podcast man. He's a legendary 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:18.840 queens rapper. He's agreed as your boy in O R E. 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.000 He's a Miami hip hop pyoneer. What up his DJ 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.520 E f N? Together they drink it up with some 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:26.239 of the biggest players you know what I mean. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:30.120 And the most professional, unprofessional podcast. 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:32.360 And your number one source for drunk drink chans. 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:34.840 Moy day is New Year's CST. 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:38.600 It's time for drink Champions. Drink up mother mother. 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:45.320 Would a good be hoping he would be this your 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.280 boy in O R What if it's d J e 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:54.920 f N, this drink Champs? We have We have today 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:59.280 one of the best execs of all time, one of 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.280 the most respect acted executives of all time. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:04.520 His head still monkey foot in the game. 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.959 He's promoting shows and doing tours and doing all types 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:11.800 of things that's going on. He's been rewinding time as well. 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:15.840 In case you don't know who we're talking about, We 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:17.880 sure about my friend the one to know that. 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:22.640 Let's see that. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.200 Let me ask you, because you had one of the 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:28.320 craziest runs with with Loud, right, but let's suppose we 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:31.280 had a chance to reverse that and you as an 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:37.959 artist rewind and you as an artist knowing all you 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.160 know now, what was? What would we be a label 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:44.080 you would sign to? That's a good question. 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:45.720 I do. 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:49.280 I do the vodka labels that are right now, either 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.040 either back then or both. 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:53.639 Back then, back then. 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:55.920 I would sign to Loud because the artist always came up. 0:01:56.200 --> 0:02:03.360 Big up yourself, I respect and then I love what 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:04.440 topped us t D? 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:09.720 Yeah, Okay, did you go when Kitting Drink and Drake 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:11.400 was battling? Did you? Who'd you go for? 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.200 I mean I didn't really go for anybody, you did know. 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:17.960 I was just I thought it was just good for 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:18.440 hip hop? 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:18.760 Yeah? 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.079 What? What was? What? Did you? Was you excited by it? 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.480 I was in Vegas right well, this whole thing was 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:30.560 going on, and I was just like I was entertained 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.680 right because. 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:36.040 You you uh was that with Mob Deep and Mob Deep? 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:38.720 I was going into Pog and that was like a 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:39.760 little bit more serious. 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.440 So I don't know if you know this park was 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:43.960 my roommate. 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:44.919 What the fuck? 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:52.720 Wait? Okay, hell hold holdly gonna describe kidding? Okay? You ahead? 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:57.120 So on his first album, okay in It sco Pie 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:58.720 and he wasn't on Death Throw. He was on a 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:03.600 label called that It was Adrian Gregory's label. 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:05.520 Okay, this is after Digital Underground. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.440 Yeah, after the Digital Underground and then the Scope just 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:12.000 started and they hired me, wow to do all the 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:16.600 street team and all the marketing. So we set up 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:22.320 a promotion tal oh, I don't want to down Thursday Sunday. Yeah, 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.160 so we get back out of late Sunday night or 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.120 first thing Monday morning. So he would stay with me, 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.919 and I was living like a townhouse in Studio City, 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:32.799 and I mean and he worked. He would come to 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:34.800 you officely. He would pack records with me and it 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.440 would be me, this kid Fade Dubinet and it would 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:39.600 be and our assistant Lisa, and it would be this 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:44.240 us on the floor shipping packing records. I mean, he 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.360 was a worker like he worked his ass off. Wow. 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.640 Wow, that's It's just to be clear for the audience. 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:53.720 This is you before LOUD. Before I just know. 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:57.200 It was SRC, but the market was the Stephen Riffing Company, 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.280 not SRC Records, and Loud just started. 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.440 Just started, yeah, but they hadn't taken off yet now, 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.000 so you're within the scope and this is him after 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:07.920 Digit Underground, he's about to get or he got his 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:08.320 deal with. 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.040 In Brendan got a baby trapped. 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:16.240 Right, Wow, that's amazing thinking what were those conversations like 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:17.760 with him? 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.760 They would he just wanted to work and win, like 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.160 I mean literally he would you know. He we would 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.559 sit on the floor, we would pack records, we would 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.520 we typed the letter, he would sign the name, he 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.799 would put the letter in the envelope and boom. 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.719 He would smoke cigarettes, weed, you know whatever it was. 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:37.800 We were, right, we were our officers on Melrose and 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.640 there was a fast food There's a restaurant called Johnny 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:41.520 Rockets right across the. 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:47.000 Street, right, so we would go back. 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:48.760 I mean we would stay that until ten eleven o'clock 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.719 at night, then go to the crib. Right, That's incredible. 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:55.080 Tuesday was was radio day, and then we'd be on 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.960 the road on Wednesday. Did you did you guys maintain 0:04:58.400 --> 0:04:59.880 a relationship after those times? 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:01.440 So this is what I was going to say. 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:05.240 So I went to see uh Tony rich from at 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.000 the House of Blues one night with Open Artists. Right, 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:09.880 I don't know if he was okay, I know he 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:13.599 was signed him with a face. Yeah, And I'm walking 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:15.960 through and I get smack in the back of my head. 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:17.600 So I got a ball tad, So I don't know 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.120 if it's a love tap or if it's a real right, 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.400 and it's him, And I'm looking at me because you 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:24.640 don't say low, and I'm like, man, I don't know 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:25.560 where I stand with you? 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.240 Oh talking about yeah? Okay? 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.800 And he goes, are you talking about them? He goes, man, 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.760 I'm just messing with them so I could be relevant. 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:38.559 Whoa so Tupac saying that about Mom's Yeah he loved them. Wow, 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.000 I can see that too. I can actually think that. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.720 Actually that's crazy. Has there ever been an artist that 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.200 you had an opportunity to sign and you didn't sign 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:47.920 and you regret it? 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:48.520 Yeah? 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.159 Who Jay? No? 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:57.240 I think you mentioned this. M okay, m. 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.800 But Jay by himself was an original flavor with him 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:00.719 down the original flavor. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.800 No original flavor was on Atlantic. Jay was was Rockefeller, 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.240 So it was okay. Dame came to the office. We 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:11.320 wanted to do the deal and b MG wouldn't let 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.039 us do the deal because they were trying to build 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.440 their stuff up like it's not gonna happen, and they. 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.320 Wanted a JV. I was like, give him a JV 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:23.280 and just give us an over. Who don't know JB 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:24.080 is a joint vent. 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.000 Holy ship imagine. 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.440 Let's let's imagine Rockefeller flourishing under loud. 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:35.760 But I also had Gotti before, okay. 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.440 Before before Leo and Russell got him. 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.040 And he'll tell you that too. 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:43.039 Was that after he was with? 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:46.600 That was it was? It was Mike Gronamo. 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:47.640 So wow. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.320 So we were get to sign Mike. We couldn't get 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:54.719 the sample click right, holy man. So they say timing 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.080 is everything, right, So. 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:59.200 You're gonna say Mike Drohn before Blunt Records, Yeah, wait 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.600 before and brought him to you. 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:03.040 Yeah. 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.000 Wow, that's amazing. 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.520 So we were in Paris, yes, and I got to 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.960 see one of the amazing, the most amazing shows period. 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:15.040 I don't want to say hip hop shows. I'm talking 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:18.920 about amazing show period. Like I watched you know, I 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:22.560 always picked this up, but I watched Wu Tang and 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.480 nas like no opening the act, just these guys sell 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:27.600 out the whole arena. 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.480 But it looked like it. 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.920 Look like a documentary. It looked like they weren't there. 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.720 That's how good it was. And I remember one part 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.560 of the show, Rizard stops the show and he goes 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:44.040 Steve Rifkin. He stops and he bigs you up, And 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:49.280 I start to think what other artists grew with their CEOs, Like, 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.080 how y'all grew together. 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.920 I don't think there's too many people that exist. 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:55.520 Me, Me and Joe. 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:59.600 Yeah, okay, I'm talking about other than you, motherfucker. 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.640 Yeah, I mean Russell and ll. 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:10.680 Russell, l Leon and a little bit. 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.240 You know, and you gotta go Jimmy and Dre. Yeah, 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:15.160 every because a dude. 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:18.520 Look at Dre, even though he's a phenomenal producer, phenomenal artist, 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:22.360 I do look at his business mind more with with 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.880 with jim I mean that's beautiful. 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:32.160 Man, right and then oh yeah, you know, and then 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:33.720 maybe Stout and Nas. 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.000 They don't really work together still, I think they do deals, 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:40.320 but I don't think they work, but they're still close. Yes, yes, yes, 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.480 I think that's beautiful, like to grow with with the 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.200 artists and growing time, you know what I mean. You 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:46.600 get to know each other's kids, you get to know 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.120 each other's wives and things like that. But I was 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.680 so blown away how he was so articulate and so 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.920 like like like I believed him, you know how somebody 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.400 like you knows say something that like about it. And 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:01.760 I looked at his face and I was like wow. 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:05.400 But it wasn't just him, It was Unable that was sitting. 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:06.640 There, and it was like, we're like, you know what 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.000 I mean? I thought that was special? Do you do 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:10.079 realize how special that? 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:10.680 In this stuff? 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:15.000 I mean, we all, I mean risus family right, the 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.280 way I considered Joe family, the way I consider you family. 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:17.600 Right. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:25.079 We all grew up together. It's like they changed my life. 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.720 I changed their life. And it was just you know, 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.520 and like you know, and the one thing is, you know, 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:35.000 we never fought over money, and I won't fight over money. Wow, right, 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.360 iized that, so like we could have a disagreement about 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.640 a marketing, but not even about how much we was spending. 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:42.679 You know, let's do this, let's do that. 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.040 You know, when I got them on the Rage Against 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.719 the Machine tour right right, if we finished that tour, 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.120 to me, that would have been the biggest selling hip 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:53.400 hop album of all time, right, I mean it was 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.840 a double album we debut. That was that when they 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:57.120 owned that was Wu Tang forever? 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.400 Okay? Was that when they got bafed for ninety. 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:03.400 Seven yeah, cool, so, and then we had the Rage 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.240 Against Machine tour, and you know, unfortunately for us, the 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.400 tours started in all the cities that we already had 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.800 on lock Wow right, and we had that you know, 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:15.360 first hip hop million dollar video right with Triumph and. 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:22.480 Then Obamatoma Lee Bad. So I'm getting a class back. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:28.000 So what happened was, you know, we scanned, which means 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.400 records sold in those days, we sold I think six 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.360 hundred and something thousand first week debuted and it was 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:35.640 a double album, so it really is a. 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:39.440 Million two right, so ninety four percent. 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:43.840 Around the world, number one every country, and then the 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:45.760 tours without radio too. 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:46.280 Yeah. 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.680 Right, the hot ninety seventh thing came right, we got 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.640 hit right, But now I was like, all right, don't 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:52.920 worry about the tour, it's going to start and the 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:53.640 videos dropping. 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:54.959 So you know, we. 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.520 Debuted at six hundred, you go down, and now the 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:02.160 record starts coming up again and we're averaging around three 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:07.199 hundred thousand a week. And the tour now we're going 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:12.400 into the Midwest. Like when I'm saying the Midwest, like Nebraska, Cleveland, Indiana, 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.560 like Marcus that we've never been in marks that we 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.760 haven't sold, and we're talking about thirty forty thousand seeds, 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:23.040 and if we finished that tour, we would just in 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.440 fifteen to twenty million hours easy. 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:28.920 And that's just that was just in America. Was that 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:30.680 all we were. 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:32.080 Starting, were going to naturally. 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:36.400 But I'm just talking about the message because because then 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:41.200 because you know me and you've been overseas a couple 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.240 of times together. But I wish the fans could understand 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.640 how sometimes overseas more kind of appreciates it, like. 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:50.480 You know, they know it better than we know it. 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.680 They appreciate it because they can't touch it. 0:11:55.400 --> 0:12:01.400 So I want to know the first time you met Woo, 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:03.560 because it was it was it you met Rizza first. 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.520 I met Rizza thirty ministry for the rest of their guys. 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:10.080 So I met him on my birthday March second, nineteen 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.800 ninety three. Okay, wow, and Rizzi just I've been trying 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:17.280 to reach him since the beginning of the year. And 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.320 I'm in New York for my thirty first birthday and 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.360 I'm working out of the RCAA building and I think 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.080 it was on sixth Avenue at the time, in like 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:28.880 forty third Street, and they said there's a Prince Rakeeen. 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.560 I'm like, and I'm like, you're kidding me. What you 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.000 didn't know Prince Rackeen was VISI. 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:35.120 No, there was no Riza yet. 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.520 It was just Prince knew him already, yes, because he 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:38.680 was already an artist that was out. 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.440 Yeah, but I didn't know him personally. I knew who 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.240 he was, right right. But I say, you were looking 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:43.760 for him already. I've been trying to reach him. He 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:47.480 didn't have financering machine like I mean, like all that. 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:50.480 You know if you saw the show, like you really? 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:51.920 So he shows up. 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:55.240 I'm with East Swist from the Alcoholics chelt East right. 0:12:55.480 --> 0:13:00.000 So the office is no bigger than this table right right, 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.400 And he comes and he goes the guys who downstairs 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:03.240 you might if they come up. 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.079 I'm like, yeah, no problem. 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:09.400 So you know it was not of them, no, right, 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.360 So I can picture this, right. So they come up 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.800 to say, we got a video, right, yeah, protect your next. 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:17.800 So they put the video in and they start performing. 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.839 So some guy comes in a jumpsuit, so I don't 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:23.079 know if he's in the metal, I don't know who 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:23.320 he is. 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.240 He comes and slams the doors. 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.640 That's that ship comes in. 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.080 It goes out. I've never seen him again. I still 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.480 got a million dollar check waiting and I signed him 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:35.000 just I don't know if they set me up and 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:36.600 they hired this guy to come in as an actor, 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:36.920 if he. 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.120 Really never asked them, if they didn't see I mean. 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.640 Beings like you know, Rizza is like, he gives me 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:44.640 a smile, and. 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:47.000 We signed him. 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.160 You know, the deal was done with in like two weeks. 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:50.240 Wow. Wow? 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.920 And I noticed this is a cliche kind of question, right, 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.720 but some people could just see talent off the top, 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:00.040 and sometimes the tallet has. 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:03.400 To be proven. Did you no off top by looking 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:07.280 at I mean the energy, like, how do you not? 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.560 I mean dirty doing his verse to protect your neck 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:15.720 like standing on the desk. I mean I meant, I mean, wow, 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.920 did I know thirty five years later that that yeah, 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:21.160 because we take it for granted now. 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.400 But even the name Wu Tang clans sound crazy? 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.520 Well, I mean you know that W to me is 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:31.120 in the top five brands in music, right. You have 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.160 the Rolling Stones tongue, you have the Grateful Dead Skull, 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.680 you know, and then the wou w you know, And 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.120 I know, so. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:50.600 That's what's a fucking amazing, man, this is hip hop music. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.320 Hip Hop was predominantly at this time was not known 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:59.760 to cross over, and when it did cross over, it 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:03.600 was looked like, oh, it's almost frowned upond Wu Tang 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.000 was one of these groups that cross over that no 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.600 one that they never compromised their music. It always stood 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:13.320 the same, always down the street. Was there ever a 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.200 time where they try to change that? Like now I'm 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.120 talking about not the group I'm talking about who signed 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.560 with BMG and all these other like. 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:21.920 If they did, I would tell them to go fuck them, right, 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:25.240 because I never considered myself an A and R guy. 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.040 To this day, I don't consider myself an R G. 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:32.440 I consider myself a marketing and a promotion guy. Right, 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.000 So you know I own the name Street Team, right, 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:36.800 and that's all fire. 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:38.240 I knew how to do. 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:40.760 Like you know, when I left from Loud to start 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.680 SRC Records, you know, I thought I was gonna build 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:49.960 Loud Point too, right, but Universal didn't understand Street Records, right, 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.120 you know. And God blessed me with a kon, God 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.680 blessed me with David Banner right with that, you know, 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.840 and then it was like I found something. We just 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:00.640 moved and I just found some thing where you know, 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.680 Akon had the number one and number two pop record 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:07.360 in the country at the same time. And who was 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.840 it clapped at? It was smacked that, sack that and 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:10.880 I want to fuck you. 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.000 And I want to fuck to every Voga records. 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:15.800 One was with them and then you know the other 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:20.160 one was with Snoop right and like, and the universe 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.040 was saying, you got to move one of the records 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:23.680 and I was like, you laughed in my face and 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:25.200 I said, this will be the biggest shot outs in 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:25.600 my career. 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:27.200 I was like, nah, you guys are gonna lose your 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:28.000 bonus on this one. 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.720 Do you think Akon created afrobeats? 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.400 I don't know if you created afrobeats, but he has 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.400 a big he has a big saying. 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.240 You know, he was promoting going to Africa first. 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:40.840 I mean, he's from Africa. 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:45.960 I'm walking around, joking around, joking around. What's what's your 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:47.000 favorite era of music? 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:49.040 Nineties nineties? 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:53.240 You remember early nineties or late nineties, middle nineties or 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:54.280 just in the nineties period. 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.520 I'm going to say, like from ninety two to you know. 0:16:56.560 --> 0:17:00.080 Okay, ninety two, Okay, that's where who dropped. 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:02.600 Right, Well, who dropped ninety three? When the Digital Underground drop. 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:06.160 That's late eighties, late eighties, eighty ninety nine, ninety. 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:12.960 Yeah, okay, what is that? That's when did you do underground? 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.680 And so when you're starting your label and you're saying 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.240 you to go back because it's a big deal, you 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:21.800 said you trademark Street Team. 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.439 Yeah, I trade trade. I trademark Street Team after the label. 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:27.520 But yeah, I didn't even want a label. 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:27.920 Man. 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:32.840 I was like, I was, you know, my late twenties. 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:36.280 I was making six figures, you know, and I thought 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:40.400 I was rich. You know, I was cool. I would 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:42.680 leave the office every day. I mean, if you were, 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.320 but you know, at that time, for sure, I was 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:47.560 leaving the office every day at three o'clock, go to 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:49.359 the park, play ballf for two hours, come back to 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:53.359 your office, do my reports. And and somebody said you 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.080 got to have a label. I was like, nah, I'm cool. 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.800 And they ended up calling my father. 0:17:59.040 --> 0:17:59.879 So I'm in this. 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:06.200 I'm staying at the hotel on fifty fourth Street, and 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:11.159 he said I need to talk to you, and no, 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:12.720 actually I was just saying at I was staying at 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:17.280 my partner at rich Isacson's apartment, yeah. He goes, I 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.480 need to talk to you. And I'm like, all right, 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:21.480 I'll have a bunch of you tomorrow. He goes, no, 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:22.200 come to the house. 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:22.360 Now. 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.440 My dad lived in Long Island, which was forty five minutes. 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:26.640 I'm like, Dad at ten o'clock, he goes, I don't 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:27.639 give a fucket over here. 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:31.800 Now he put out the first hip hop record. 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:38.000 Yes, and you know when he when my dad talks 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:41.600 like that, I really you know, it's not smart to 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:46.560 say no to anybody. So I take the Long hon 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:51.000 rail row take the train, and he said, Paul Marshall 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:54.359 called me. I'm like okay, and he goes, you turned 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:59.280 down a label. I'm like yeah, he goes, you're a 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:03.399 fucking idiot. He goes, you know why. I was like, 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.879 you know, it's not the first time you've called me 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:12.000 an idiot, and just like why, dad, He goes. With 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:14.520 the company that you have, now, you're doing extremely well, 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:19.080 but you're only as good as your last contract. M 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:22.360 you want a brothers, you can get fired and then 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:26.480 you're left with your dick in your hand. With this 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:30.040 having a record company, you own something, you're making money 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:35.480 while you're sleeping right right, And I couldn't disagree with 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.159 him on that. 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:44.480 But before you get into that part, what I wanted 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:45.960 to find out is how did you get into the 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:48.120 street team and marketing side and things like what drove 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:48.480 you there? 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:54.320 So I was major lea dyslexic as a kid. I 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:55.520 don't know how to read it right till I was 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:59.920 fourteen fifteen years old, Wow, And I was in Jeuviie 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:03.879 and just I was getting in a lot of trouble 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:07.840 and my grandfather was living down here. And my grandfather 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.600 was a I don't know what he was, but he 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:16.840 was a tough motherfucker right. And he called me and 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:18.600 he says, you got to change I was eighteen, nineteen 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:20.680 years old. He says, you got to change your life. 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:22.000 I'm like, what do you mean. He goes, I want 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:24.760 to be like you. He goes, this is why I'm 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:26.679 living down here now, don't I don't want to be 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.320 that what I was. He goes, you could end up 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:34.000 dead or in jail. And he goes going to the 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:36.359 music business. I said, my father wants nothing to do 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:39.240 with me. He goes, I'll take care of that. And 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:41.600 two weeks later he calls me. He goes, pick me 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.640 up Eastern Airlines at JFK. 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:49.240 Your father's signed James. 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:52.000 Yeah, my dad's timed James Brownton. 0:20:56.200 --> 0:21:00.440 And we went into the city and we sat down 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.680 with my father and uncle and they said, we're gonna 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:07.120 put you on the road, so you'll you'll fly back 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:10.040 to Florida with Grandpa and then from there and they 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:16.800 gave me around. You know, I drove from Fort Lauderdale 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:21.119 to make in Georgia, then to Atlanta, Alabama. Don't get 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:24.199 there's no GPS, no matter, right, I'm just learning how 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:26.840 to read like so remember, you know, so it's like 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:32.040 I would call the stations. So if I'm making Georgia, 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:33.800 I would call the station in Atlanta say how do 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:35.840 I and literally write directions? 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:38.080 Then, right, I. 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:39.439 Didn't I didn't even know. I didn't even know how 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:40.000 to read the map. 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:44.520 I mean, I was so but I'm eighteen years old 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.560 hanging out with forty fifty year olds, and I was like, 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:48.360 let me go to the colleges. 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:49.720 Right, what are we going to talk. We're going to 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:52.040 talk music, We're to talk sports, we're gonna talk girls. 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:52.640 All right. 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.240 That was never really about money, right, So. 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:00.679 That was only supposed to be three months and it 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:03.480 lasted three and a half years. 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:06.400 So when I was. 0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:10.240 Done, I actually got really good at it, and I 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:14.040 just kept in touch with a lot of the college DJs. 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:20.000 And when I moved out to LA, I was managing. 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:22.119 I moved out to LA to start managing New Addition 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:26.439 and then after that ran its course, I needed to 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:28.560 do something, so I started calling the record labels. 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:31.280 I said, hey, I'll help promote your hip hop records. 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:33.399 And that's when I put the whole TLD to. 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:36.840 Hip hop record help promote, Oh promote, Okay, okay, but 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:38.240 you went to manage New Addition. 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:41.120 Yeah, al must pushed as you get at that time. 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:45.560 So this is a great story. 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:46.480 Did a good story. 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:52.919 So we're in Saint Thomas, h they're performing at Hal Jackson. 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:56.960 Remember how Jackson from wbls OOP. I'm sorry, not that old, 0:22:56.960 --> 0:23:00.119 all right, So how jack he was the one of 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:04.199 the owners of blis Hal Jackson's Talented Team contest. And 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:08.440 we're flying back from St. Thomas to LA and they're 0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:13.040 talking about how many they went through. I thought they 0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:14.160 were talking about for the weekends. 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:15.840 Oh yeah, okay. 0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:19.720 They're talking about per day day right. So when it 0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:22.680 came up to mind, I thought I did good, right, 0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:25.080 They said, you were doing that per day and I 0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:27.120 was like, no, I did that for the weekend. They said, 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:29.040 now we're talking about per day. 0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:37.000 I gotta smell the ass. And because for urs of 0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:40.480 R and B different there are different times too. 0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:42.320 But there was a different times where they had to 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:42.919 come see you. 0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:47.560 There was no Instagram, there was the count in fantasize. 0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:49.240 They had to go and see you. It was a 0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:52.040 little different things, but. 0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:55.159 That was that was after the new edition was new 0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:59.639 audition was like eighty six. 0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:01.240 How many people in his room? Mighty took your mom's down. 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:05.080 This is fact, but but but this was a great 0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:08.400 thing with new addition. The reason why I let Wu 0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:12.960 Tang do all their solo records because to. 0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:16.400 Me, the group was always bigger, bigger than the whole. 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:20.600 So when Ralph wanted to do a solo record, that's 0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:24.800 why we put Johnny in the group and everything else. Ralph, Treasurent, 0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:27.679 we all said, the group will still be bigger than 0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:28.439 the solo. 0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:32.480 So that's how I lay until Bobby Brown started. That 0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:33.720 makes a lot of sense to. 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:39.520 Bobby sold more records, but touring Michael sold more records 0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:41.720 than the Jackson five. But Michael could have toil the 0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:43.920 way that right when Michael went back with the Jackson 0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:45.960 five for that victory tour that you know, and that 0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:47.919 day that was that was the biggest tour in the 0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:48.800 world ever. 0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:52.840 Now, but this is crazy because it makes sense how 0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:55.880 you would have had that foresight to make that type 0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:58.439 of deal with Wu Tang because based on that what 0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:00.720 you went through with new addition total sense. 0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:03.880 But at that time, uh, because I believe Wu Tang 0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:06.399 was on Loud, but you actually let Math go to 0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:06.920 Depth Jam. 0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:08.520 You had to give per mission for that or that 0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:10.560 was that's what he's saying. He got that. That's where 0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:11.000 I got. 0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:12.280 Because a new edition. 0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:16.120 So when I signed and they gave me, I wasn't 0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:17.880 gonna say no no matter what, because it was about 0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:21.840 survival of the fitish right, So I was like, go ahead, 0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:23.480 if we can match it. I didn't have the money 0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:27.320 to match it, and it wasn't even crazy money match 0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:28.760 match Steph. 0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:29.719 Jams the oar. 0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:30.200 Yeah. 0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:33.320 Yeah, but then you had Genius some believe was one 0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:38.040 Geffen Dirty was on Electra and and we ended up 0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:39.280 having Right and Deck. 0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.479 So when they already had those deals before, no, no, no, 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:46.719 that was after Jesse had math had dirty? 0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.760 Was that Electra Then when protection Neck and the teacher 0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:51.720 d Man came, def Jam came and got mad. 0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:55.159 Right, Okay, Now did Leo had to actually have a 0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:59.639 mission for that or well under yes, But but it 0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:01.720 was really that said, you know, this is what we. 0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:03.520 Wanted because that's how you did the deal that it 0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:04.520 would allow those things. 0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:06.720 But but what was the agreement as long as Wu 0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:08.959 Tank get back together, that you'll. 0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:11.440 Be with that. That's fucking genius. 0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:14.760 It sounds so simple nowadays because we've seen so many 0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:17.080 examples of it, but prior to that we have noticeas 0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:18.800 on examples of it. And I never even put two 0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:20.479 and two together with the new additions, right, and we 0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:21.280 take into just. 0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:23.000 Now we could take for granted the fact that had 0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:25.880 you not experienced what you a new addition, you might 0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:27.639 not have done that type of deal. We might not 0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:29.000 have had the Wu tang on the way we have 0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:29.440 them today. 0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:31.439 That's amazing. 0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:34.240 And shut out the new addition though for being a 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:36.480 part and shout out to Hiram Hicks too. 0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:39.919 It's genius because in a certain way, when you have 0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:42.960 artists that's making these albums where all the artists is 0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:45.320 on the group. It's like they're actually helping these other 0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:48.080 labels to help them promote not only the group, but 0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:50.040 other artists like you know what I mean, Like like 0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:56.399 for instance, ghost Face album, I remember him, I remember him? 0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:58.280 What is the Supreme Client Cells is. 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.720 The other one where Ray Raycorn is right there. So 0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.080 it's like, you know it is in your best interest as. 0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:04.800 Yeah, the bigger they are the bigger, right And no, 0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:08.760 forget they would pay us, not Rizzo, but Sony would 0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:11.560 pay us, Elector would pays, would pay us for the 0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.120 clear samples of the artists to market the record. 0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:17.120 What the fuck did they about they're playing? 0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:20.880 Yeah, I had expertise and I had the blue plane. 0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:23.200 Yeah you know how to promote him? You already sold 0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:25.359 millions of records with them as the. 0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:28.040 Crew, and the branding ultimately helps the group because they're 0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:29.440 all screaming Wutan at the end of the day and 0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:31.160 exactly Wu Tang is on left. 0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.640 Did you ever did you ever see streaming? Like did 0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:35.440 you see this coming? 0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:36.000 So? 0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:39.000 Man, let me right before I got the Florida Okay, 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.960 you know in twenty thirteen, I had my heart attack, right, 0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:47.919 and I stopped working from twenty thirteen to today. My 0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:52.639 Catalog has done twenty three billion streams. 0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.480 I called my lawyer. Yeah, on my way, here. 0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:03.399 Me some fucking money, right, Because the truth is I 0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:06.080 sold the company and I think it generated. 0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:07.680 I don't really know. 0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:10.000 The math, but my son said it was like one 0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:13.800 hundred and forty million dollars and this is Catalog, right. 0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:16.760 I'm like, you sold the catalog I sold. I got sick. 0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:19.080 I didn't think I was going to lift, so I sold. 0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:26.000 I think Akon's like fourteen billion at them out of it, right, 0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:26.960 But I am sorry. 0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:28.880 Right, And then you have Joe with lean back. 0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:34.800 That's I think two right, And I was like, somebody 0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:36.600 should throw me something right. 0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.320 Very true. I agree with you. Who would it be? 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:40.240 The universal? 0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:40.760 Universal? 0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:44.760 Universal motherfuckers, get your life together, make sure you break Steve. 0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:49.760 But that's Jamie. I got another one, Jamie. 0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:57.160 Yeah, Well, I wanted to pick quick Thomas line, but 0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:59.360 I guess we got to wait for if you could. 0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:05.640 Do it twice. If so, Cassidy, Casside will be here soon, 0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:08.920 explain explain this relationship. So we wait for him. No, 0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:11.560 he let me say it first, and then. 0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:16.480 I haven't called. 0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:18.600 Bro. 0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:22.880 So Cassie's like a son to me right. I gave 0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:25.040 him his first record deal with O Neil McKnight. But 0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:30.240 when I had sr C, we threw probably the best 0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:33.320 party in the history of parties two thousand and seven 0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:36.760 at my house. Right after the beat et or so 0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:41.120 during COVID he calls me. He goes, I need you 0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:45.480 to see something immediately, and like please, it's gonna take 0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:49.720 thirty minutes. So he sent him talking to me and 0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:52.880 he sends me this video of a show called Pastor Mic. 0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:57.640 So I watch it and I said, this is going 0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.000 to change your life. This is going to change my life. 0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:02.640 I'm gonna make a deal for you on tv. 0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:04.520 M. 0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:09.200 And we made a deal with b ET and then 0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:13.600 we discussed. I got a call that somebody said that 0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:14.720 they want to make this a tour. 0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:16.000 Oh wow. 0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:22.040 So Shelby Joyner, who has Black Promoters Coalition called. We 0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:26.120 did a deal with Shelby for like eight nine cities 0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:31.840 and and did extremely, extremely well. 0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:36.760 And now we have this residency in Vegas with Live Nation. 0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:39.360 And now who who is we know? 0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:44.360 Uh By Joe and Dougie Fresh, doug Dougy Fresh, sick 0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:47.480 Rick and then we have Ray and Goals coming one 0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:52.040 night public Enemy Coming, one Night, Akon Coming for a weekend, 0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:56.280 Jermaine and the Bratt one night, laurrange In Too Short, 0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.600 one night. That's gonna be for the month of July 0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:02.680 and Vegas. Yeah, we're gonna start off just one month. 0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:08.200 Do you think, what do you Is residency something that's good? 0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:10.120 I think so. 0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:14.600 I mean, look how it restarted Ush's career. Yeah, and 0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:18.640 it's it seems like, I mean, depending on the caliber 0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:21.160 of artists. But the money that, at least in Vegas 0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.440 they're giving up for these residencies is crazy. 0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:25.240 That's why we need that. That's why we need to 0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.720 do this residency with you guys. You'll make more money 0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:28.920 than you'll love them make in your life. 0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:30.920 You didn't have a residency, But I don't know if 0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:33.800 you remember after all your Becando hit number one, I 0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:36.720 got highed for the like all the Wednesdays of one month, 0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:40.000 you don't remember, Like I kept going out just one place, 0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:43.760 same exact place, did the same exact show. Can't Coo 0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:45.800 in Mexico? Yes, yes, So, I don't know if that 0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:46.440 was considered. 0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.840 The rest of that was because these deals in Vegas 0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:50.760 are totally. 0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.360 Yeah, so Vegas again, like if you have merged, right, 0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:53.920 And why. 0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.320 Is residency so so popular in Vegas? 0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:59.040 Because everybody's in Vegas for the weekend for in those hotels. 0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:00.520 They need to attract the people to get him in 0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:05.440 the casino, and this is what's attracting them. Show no, No, 0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:10.720 it could be weekly, it could be relaxed, buddy, one 0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:11.960 time to make a republic. 0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:14.920 Yeah, you can do it. 0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:16.120 You can do it. We can do it. 0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.760 There's people that do it every day. 0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:22.760 All right, Cassidy, ten minutes out? 0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:27.600 Okay, your your your residency once a year. 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:39.440 You got like because I remember like the residency when 0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:41.040 I first heard of something like that, it was like 0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:42.080 the rat pack type of thing. 0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:44.640 It was like, that's that's the original residenced. 0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:46.200 Okay, I'm my bugget no, that's. 0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:49.040 The originally that was Frank Sammy at the beginning of 0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:55.160 Jean Lewis, Sammy, Well you said Sammy, Frank, Dean Lewis, 0:32:56.200 --> 0:33:00.240 Jerry Lewis, and then then there's you know some you know, 0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:01.240 they had their own beefs. 0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:03.920 So so I also remember you had something to do 0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:05.080 with Mary's residency. 0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:07.719 Was that the truth or would you would manage her 0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:08.160 at the time? 0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.920 Yeah, it was a it was a quick stint. What 0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:12.880 it was quick? 0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:13.120 You know? 0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.280 Yeah, they wanted her to replace Usher. 0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:20.840 Wow, and she didn't take it, or she did. 0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:23.480 She had to deal with Live Nation to do this tour. 0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:25.600 So she's gonna do the tour first. 0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:28.600 Okay, and you're I heard you say this a couple 0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:31.480 of times. You're down with Live Nation now yeah? 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:32.360 What what? 0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:32.120 What? 0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:32.840 What? 0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:36.040 I'm round the FID who manages Usher. 0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.320 Is probably the biggest management company in Live Nation, and 0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:45.480 he's a good friend. Then he said, come in giving 0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.120 you know, an empty whiteboard to do whatever the hell 0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:48.600 you want to do. 0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.920 So and so, so what does that mean that you're 0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.680 you're more on the concert side. I could do whatever 0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:57.360 I want a lot. 0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:57.760 Yeah. 0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:00.120 So if it's Cassidy, if it's Mary, if it's like 0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:03.280 if we could get the residency with you guys, I'm 0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:03.800 starting out. 0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.880 Doesn't mean you have to live there, no, no, no, 0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:08.600 It just means you're gonna be there. 0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:09.000 Consecution. 0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:22.520 It probably originated like those guys used to have penthouses 0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:24.040 in the in the hotels back in the day, So it. 0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:24.920 Probably started with that. 0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:31.200 That's probably where the name probably, I mean, at least 0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.200 he's using a word understanding. 0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:34.520 What it means, so I guess I guess that's the 0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:36.440 point that if it is trying to say, is it 0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.839 has to be because you don't want to fly back 0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:39.200 and forth. 0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:40.640 You live in New York. You might want to stay 0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:41.279 there the whole month. 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.319 Yeah, you know what I mean, like because now we're 0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:44.799 gonna have a good time. You know, my uncle has 0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:47.600 his restaurant down there, so it's like, what's the name 0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.560 of the restaurant picking up Piero's. Piero's sounds good. 0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:53.359 One thing I know about Steve, he knows how to eat, 0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:57.040 so you know, I mean, the best, best, the best. 0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:03.640 You got some good eat with Steve Nobles. 0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.160 That's right, that's right. Remember you ain't got to blow 0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:06.920 it up, damn. 0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:14.719 Because other people listening, Sonny, Yeah, oh yeah, Oh that 0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:18.839 wasn't no, that wasn't Noble. That was the original one, 0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:20.960 the first None of us knew how to order. 0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:27.520 That what. 0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:31.840 Little things like I don't know if I don't know 0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:33.600 if it was like this the whole time, but it 0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:36.480 was only raw and we couldn't like, we couldn't like, 0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:38.640 we couldn't defrigerate. 0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.480 What what was what was what was good? I mean, 0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.319 but we were in Paris. Yes, he was eating at 0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:48.759 the final stress. I was like what me. 0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:50.520 And Sonny was I think we were texting each other 0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:51.320 like which one. 0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:56.839 Is what we could We couldn't. We couldn't get the savon. 0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.920 Right, guys, don't worry anything. You guys want I got 0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:06.040 that said, I want to stop something that looked like 0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:07.320 fire fresh from. 0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:17.720 By the way, but by the way, that's that's the crazy. 0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:19.960 That's crazy because that. 0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:23.200 Night walking we walked to see Steve. I don't know 0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:24.080 if you remember. 0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:27.359 Sonny and Diego where where are die Go at? We 0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:30.600 walked to see Steve and we saw NICs right before 0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:32.760 we walked and see it was like a legendary nights 0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:34.680 were like who the point just walks into l A 0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:38.480 and you see fucking nas basketball sitting down there. So 0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:41.480 we're sticking to thee naves. We take a picture and 0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:43.880 then I tell Nas the name of the restaurant. Was 0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:46.480 the name of the restaurant about I came to pronounce it, 0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:50.680 you know my dislexias, and. 0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.160 I was like you could get in it. 0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:55.760 And I was like, yeah, Steve, and then like apparently 0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:58.319 come other people called me and I was saying that 0:36:58.320 --> 0:36:59.920 that's where I'm at and it's like you can get 0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:00.879 did you get in there? 0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:02.440 Like no one could get a reservation. 0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:03.640 And that's that. 0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:06.480 From that moment on, I knew Steve was a rest 0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:12.319 of guarda. 0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:15.399 You know, they looked at Steve. 0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:18.799 They was like, you know, I tell you this, and 0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:21.560 you tell me if there's this works works out for you. 0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:27.719 One of my favorite CEOs that I got to work with, 0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:30.840 you know me and you are friends. We never actually 0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:32.719 got to work right, but one of my favorite CEOs 0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:37.600 is Leo Combs, and Leo Comes would show me how 0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:41.240 he would walk in a restaurant and he knew everybody. 0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:43.440 When I tell you everybody. 0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:47.440 He knew the guy mopping, he knew the person wiping 0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:51.840 the tables, he knew the owner, he knew the matre d, 0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:54.759 he knew the person that walk you and give you 0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:57.040 the menus. 0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:58.520 He knew everybody. 0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.440 So it was a strategy for him because when you 0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:05.120 walk into a place and everybody knows you, it's hard. 0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:06.600 For me for you to say no to that person. 0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:08.919 Like I knew he was tricking me this whole time, 0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:11.480 but then I started to do it. 0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:15.319 I started when you eat it the same at every 0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:25.879 at every time. Look so. 0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:32.680 And a half hours. 0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:34.440 We know. 0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:38.520 So I mean that is a skill though, right, because 0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:41.120 I mean even like even like something. 0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:42.080 Simple like here. 0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:47.439 Back from here, Okay, even when you think of something 0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:51.960 like simple like Cheers. Cheers told us sometimes you want 0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:54.080 to go where everybody knows your name. It was something 0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:58.239 something simple like that. And I remember me always doing that, 0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:01.680 me frequent into the same restaurant. But I did during COVID. 0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:04.040 During COVID, nobody could get a carbo on reservation. 0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:08.480 Oh well, it's not destroying. 0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:14.279 Every like posting it people were like people people would 0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:15.040 hate it so much. 0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:16.239 But I learned that. 0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:18.320 I learned it from the York But I also do 0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:20.759 so is that something you do with your artists too, 0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:22.520 like you bring them to these restaurants and put them 0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:23.200 on or. 0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:27.520 I mean, if it's a good restaurant, like it's not. 0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:31.800 I'm not that way where you know, I'm not really flashy, 0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:33.719 so I'm not I'm not trying to show up. 0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:37.759 So when I started going to my Tahisa, yeah that. 0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:40.080 Was really after my heart I mean I was I've 0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.040 been going since ninety healthy, healthy, so when I had 0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:47.080 my heart attack, No Boos truly a real friend, so 0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:49.120 he would I would come and he would say, this 0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:50.080 is what you have in tonight. 0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:54.480 He would charge me, but he was like your dietician. 0:39:54.600 --> 0:40:01.160 Yeah, that's fucking that's fucking fly. He knew you. Oh 0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:02.120 that's kind of ill. 0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:04.040 I think I thought I was special about getting chicken 0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:09.080 pomeago on the cupbo got no movie telling Let me 0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:11.880 just what you're eating. That's that's fucking fire. What is 0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:13.799 your favorite restaurant in the. 0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:15.720 World, in the world, in the world. 0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:20.960 There's an old school Italian restaurant in New York on 0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:25.319 forty third between second and third called Piero's Pueros, that's 0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:28.520 what Pietro's Pietro's Pietro. And then my uncle's restaurant in 0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:33.880 Vegas is called Piero's. Yeah yeah, Piero's in Vegas and 0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:35.760 Pietro's in the city. 0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:38.760 So so it's safe to say your favorite food is Italian. 0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:46.560 Yeah, yeah, okay, there what the chicken pot at Pietro's, 0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:46.960 you had it? 0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:51.320 No shit? And my uncle's. 0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:55.960 Restaurant massive, the one because we go. 0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:57.479 The one on forty third is. 0:40:59.480 --> 0:40:59.840 Crazy. 0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:06.239 Compare it to Raos, Well you like better? I see 0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:07.960 you want you want? Tommy Ma told up in Rails. 0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:08.640 I see y'all. 0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:10.200 I like, I like Beatrix. 0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:13.960 Rails is more of a vibe like yeah, I mean 0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:17.120 you got your reserve table, you have everything, but okay, 0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:18.200 food wise. 0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:21.000 So let me ask you an old wives tale. 0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:26.600 They always said that Raos it was five tables, right, 0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:30.919 they said, no, excuse me, they said it's five five 0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:35.520 on mafia families right, But in Rails they have six tables. 0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:37.920 So you said they had a table for every family. 0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:39.799 That is what you're saying. Yeah, that's no, I don't 0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:41.359 know that's one. I don't even think that's a room. 0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:43.759 That's one hundred percent like how they sell rals, Like yo, 0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:47.399 five Italian families bought these tables and then so it's 0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.360 like you like, yeah, so it's like you got this 0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.520 experienced where in Rails it's six tables. And I always 0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:55.680 wanted to ask, like, somebody who's close to that world, 0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:56.319 is there. 0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:57.840 A secret family that we don't know about? 0:41:58.400 --> 0:41:58.920 No, I think that. 0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:06.160 Security I have no The Canadians, they would say, the Canadian, Yeah. 0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:08.480 There's a there's a Drake. 0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:10.040 You remember we went to Vancouver. 0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:16.160 No you don't remember. No, man, I'm not gonna say that. 0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:17.840 Homie was putting us that. 0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:20.960 I always want to. 0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:22.920 Hell, yeah, yes, yes, yes, So. 0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:27.200 I'm gonna make one call. 0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:29.120 Okay, go ahead, Yeah yeah. 0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:39.200 I left the hotel two hours and forty five minutes ago. 0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:41.759 But but I don't know how you all got here. 0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:44.200 You must have been coming from a different direction. I'm 0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:47.000 flattered you guys came. I called Steve. I said, I'm 0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.680 guessing no one's coming. He said, I'm almost there. 0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:50.080 We'll see. 0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:51.759 He called me and said, you guys are all here. 0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:56.440 I was parked on one street, bumper to bumper, four 0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:57.440 feet of water. 0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:57.920 Wow. 0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:00.719 Wow, I don't even know how we got past it. 0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:02.640 But I can't believe you guys all made it. 0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:04.920 Yeah, yeah, we don't play some games we don't play. 0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:08.480 We're very serious to be here and flattered that you 0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:11.000 guys made it here. I thought this for sure was 0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.960 a cancellation, but I'm so happy we made it through. 0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:18.960 The You're one of the you're one of the biggest 0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:22.799 DJs on the planet, right, you got to You got to. 0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.120 That's a very big statement. I don't know if I 0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:27.040 accept it, but I'm flattered that you say that. But 0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:27.680 I don't know if that. 0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:28.719 You are true. 0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:33.760 I love the fact that so many people have great 0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:37.040 relationships with you. Is how did how did you develop that? 0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:38.960 Is that something that that you do? You did on purpose? 0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:42.080 So that's something that you developed a long time. 0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:45.719 Well, I've been djaying since I was ten years old. Wow, 0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:53.440 so hm, it's been three decades of relationships. And I 0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:58.800 think at the foundation of every career and every life, 0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:03.640 not to sound over you know, poetic, but his relationships. 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.799 And you know, as a ten year old kid, I 0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:09.839 never dreamt of doing any of the things I've done 0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:13.160 as a DJ. My only dream as a ten year 0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:16.560 old DJ was for my favorite rappers to know my name. 0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:19.120 If you'd have told me when I was ten years 0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.840 old that Trench would know my name, I would I 0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:23.040 could have died a happy kid. 0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:26.960 So that was really the only dream I ever had. 0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:35.000 And in celebrating my heroes, I developed relationships with nearly 0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:38.160 all of them. And I think the greatest gift of 0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:43.879 my career thus far, by far, has been developing friendships 0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:49.120 with those who I idolized as a child. By far, 0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:51.719 the greatest gift of not only my career, of my life. 0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:56.759 I like that let me ask me, let me ask 0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:58.839 you to hi, let me ask you a low. Has 0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:00.839 there ever been somebody that you looked up to that 0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:02.880 you was as a ten year old kid and you 0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:06.200 met them and he was like, because I've met plenty 0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:07.799 that disappointed me. 0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:09.400 You know. 0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:11.919 The one person that comes to mind, and I don't 0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:13.799 know if this is going to sound cliche if you've 0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:16.120 heard this before, is actually no one in the music 0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:19.680 business or hip hop. Everyone in music and hip hop 0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:26.000 always actually really treated me as their fans with kindness, 0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:28.279 And to this day, when I meet someone new, I 0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:31.200 couldn't even think of a negative encounter. But I had 0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:34.160 one negative encounter with Michael Jordan once as a child. 0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:36.720 Yeah. 0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:39.680 So I wasn't a sports fan. I was never a 0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:42.560 sports fan. I only cared about Michael. You was a 0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:45.719 DJ when this encounter happened, or I was? 0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:46.120 I was? 0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:46.960 I was a child. 0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:49.080 Okay, turns hele Okay, cool. 0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:49.239 Cool. 0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:51.160 So the answer is yes, But he would have never 0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:53.240 known I was a kid. I was twelve thirty. 0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:55.240 I didn't understand where's going good. 0:45:56.920 --> 0:46:05.759 Michael I DJ, Michael Jordan's you know, birth Since then, So. 0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:09.920 I'm on a family vacation. 0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:13.960 And someone tells us that Michael Jordan is in the 0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:19.920 lobby lounge, and I think I was wearing the elevens, 0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:22.040 but not the padd of leather elevens, you know, the 0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:25.960 low ones with the net, the gray concrete. 0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:27.239 And then they had the net in them. 0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:30.000 They were like the summer elevens, but they looked nothing 0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:33.040 like the pedal leather. So someone tells me Michael Jordan 0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:36.080 is in the is in the lobby lounge, and I 0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:39.200 go down there and he's in a meeting. 0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:40.479 He's having a drink with a guy. 0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:43.719 And I walk up to him very politely, and I 0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:46.000 thought I thought I could get away with it because 0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:47.600 I was a child. I don't think I would have 0:46:47.600 --> 0:46:49.640 walked up to him as a twenty year old. 0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:52.160 And I said, could you sign my shoe? 0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:55.879 And he said something like I'm having a drink right now, 0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:58.360 so and that was it and I walked away. 0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:01.480 It was the no. It was the only disappointing moment. 0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:04.760 But as as an adult, I can appreciate why Michael 0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:08.880 Jordan doesn't sign every shoe he's asked to sign, so 0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:12.040 I wasn't left. If I was left a little salty, 0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:15.799 then I was not. As an adult, especially when your 0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:20.400 signature is worth however much money, I can only imagine 0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:21.600 you're not just going to be. 0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:23.560 Signing every sneaker that comes your way. 0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:26.640 But that really is the only negative encounter that I 0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:29.840 can even imagine. I've been really blessed. I have found 0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:37.959 that all my heroes, especially in music, have have really 0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:42.319 proven to me why they're legends. And I mean I 0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:45.640 could give you, you know, example after example, but so. 0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:49.880 I think run in DMC. 0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:53.080 I think that's why we always have one like a 0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.480 hat like that, you're paying homage to Run DMC to. 0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:58.760 So when I was a kid, I idolized run DMC 0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:01.360 and I idolized Michael Jackson, and. 0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:03.439 I can see them both. Yeah, see both. 0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:07.319 And you know I always thought as a kid that 0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:10.400 everyone I looked up to looked like a superhero. You know, 0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:12.040 as I was saying a minute ago, I was never 0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:14.320 into sports. I was into Michael Jordan for the clothes 0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:17.160 and the speakers. I was never into sports. I was 0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:21.600 into hip hop, right, So hip hoppers were my superheroes. 0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:27.239 They were my Michael Jordan, they were my Superman and 0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:31.960 Spider Man. Well, and so I looked up to grand 0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:35.080 Master Flash Cool Heirk in Africa, Bambada, and not because 0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:36.879 I knew much about them as a young kid. 0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:38.480 I knew later on as a teenager. 0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:42.239 I researched them as a young teen, But eight nine ten, 0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:44.000 I don't think I knew much about them, but I 0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:47.600 knew what they looked like, and they looked like superheroes. 0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:50.640 Cool heirk in the convertible with the speakers. I know 0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:54.279 you guys know that image and flash with the outfits. 0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:57.200 They literally looked like superheroes and. 0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:00.880 Alone on that one, I. 0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:09.320 Was enamored by that, and they later influenced my career 0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:12.280 and how I dj'. But initially I didn't know about 0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:14.480 all that, but I just knew what they looked like, 0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:16.879 and they look like superheroes. 0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:18.959 And then you cut to run DMC. 0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:26.560 Three superheroes times a thousand. You know, if an alien 0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:29.680 came from outer space to this day and said what 0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:32.000 is hip hop? And you could only show them one thing? 0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:34.560 You couldn't show them ten examples, you could only show 0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:37.279 them one thing. I think I still might show them 0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:39.560 run DMC and jam aster J. And if I could 0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:42.160 only play them one thing, I think I might play 0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:47.719 them Sucker MC, because that looks and sounds like hip 0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:50.600 hop to me, and I know that's different with everyone 0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:55.160 that's not fact. But so they were my superheroes, and 0:49:55.200 --> 0:50:02.520 I always wanted as my career grew to to not 0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:09.200 necessarily look like them, but to have a look like them. 0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:14.800 And so I think I started experimenting with hats because 0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:17.320 of Run DMCGM, Master J and Michael Jackson. 0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:18.400 I think I were. 0:50:18.280 --> 0:50:20.160 How early were you starting to experiment with the look? 0:50:21.480 --> 0:50:24.080 It gets started in my late teens, early twenties, but 0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:26.799 by my late twenties became really solidified. I don't think 0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:31.440 the boter hat became my signature to my late twenties, 0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:34.560 but I mean every kind of bit of my style 0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:37.640 I could trace back to someone in something where my 0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:41.560 pants really short, that's Michael Jackson. Every little bit is 0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:45.120 some kind of influence in a blender. 0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:48.160 As a kid, I idolized Bobby Brown. 0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:50.799 He's also become a friend, and he just looked like 0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:52.240 the coolest person on earth. 0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:54.560 The leather outfits. I got that from him. 0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:58.800 So you know, I've been idolizing people for a long time, 0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:02.120 and of those people are my friends today, but they're 0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:04.759 still my idols. And I say to my idols that 0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:08.160 have become my friends, I'll say to them, I'll say 0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:11.560 I'll say to Run, I'll say Joey. 0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:14.880 No matter how close we grow, Joey I get, I get. 0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:18.120 To call jo you don't call him Joey. 0:51:18.239 --> 0:51:19.680 I don't quote nobody. 0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:22.279 I call all my hip hop heroes by the hip 0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:22.759 hop names. 0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:24.799 So he has three names, right, Joey Rev. 0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:31.200 Yes, okay, So, but but i'd say Joey or Run. 0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:32.799 I do call him Run. I don't call him Rev. 0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:37.319 I'll say Joey or Run. I'll say, no matter how 0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:41.400 close we go, I'll say, no matter how close we 0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:46.319 grow as friends, you will never stop being Run to me. 0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:51.520 And I think those two things can coexist. I think 0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:54.040 you can idolize your friend. I think you can look 0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:56.560 up to your friends. I think you can admire your friend. 0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:00.560 I'll tell that to all the time, so it doesn't 0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:02.920 dumb down my fanness, the fact that we're friends. 0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:06.200 I was at a birthday dinner in La two nights ago, 0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:11.520 and it was for one of my best friends, Mark Burnbaum, 0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:13.479 who's owner of Catch, the restaurant Catch. 0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:15.160 I love the flow continue. 0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:20.319 So I walked into the to the restaurant that maybe 0:52:20.360 --> 0:52:23.160 fifty people there a cocktail hour, ready to sit, and 0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:26.440 I run right into nas in ll So they were 0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:28.160 walking to sit. I walked with them, and for the 0:52:28.160 --> 0:52:31.239 next three hours, the three of us sat and had 0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:32.360 the greatest conversation. 0:52:32.800 --> 0:52:34.040 This was literally three nights ago. 0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:37.399 You nas, yeah, make some noise for you and. 0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:40.640 Let's and I don't. 0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:41.000 I don't. 0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:43.439 I don't think that's normal. No, I didn't. I didn't 0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:45.480 look in my phone for three hours. As we all know, 0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:47.600 at a dinner that you know that never happened. You're 0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:50.279 constantly checking your text, you're on Instagram, you're posting the 0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:51.040 birthday nothing. 0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:52.520 It looks on his phone right now. 0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:59.719 And every time, every time someone from the dinner came 0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:01.239 over to me to say, hello, oh a. 0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:04.000 Long time, don't see I kept can we talk later? 0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:08.000 I'm right, I'm listening to Ellen nods and I wanted 0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:10.520 to get rid of everyone, because how often do you 0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:13.839 get to spend realities with Ellen NOAs. 0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:15.359 But here's the point I wanted to make. 0:53:17.000 --> 0:53:22.080 Watching the two of them together, these giants, right, giants 0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:28.040 from Queens Giants was such a beautiful thing. I don't 0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:30.000 even know that three days later, I know yet how 0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:31.839 to put in words. I tried to tell them at 0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:35.160 the end of the dinner and I hope I articulated 0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:36.960 myself so that they understood. 0:53:37.000 --> 0:53:37.600 I think they did. 0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:41.120 First of all, watching Nas talk to one of his 0:53:41.280 --> 0:53:45.640 heroes was first of all obvious that it was one 0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:47.120 of his heroes. You could have come in and know 0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:49.280 nothing about hip hop and you would have known something 0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:49.920 was going on. 0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:53.880 It was a beautiful thing. It was beautiful. 0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:56.040 I told them, I said, this has been the most 0:53:56.080 --> 0:54:00.440 touching experience and watching the respect ELLLL had for Nas, 0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:04.200 and you know, I chimed in here and there, but 0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:06.239 I really just wanted to let them go because I 0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:08.040 don't know how many times they've done that. 0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:11.560 And Nas started quoting. 0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:14.839 Songs off of ELL's first album and talking about their 0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:19.120 favorite songs of each other, and you know, it was 0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:21.319 a beautiful moment. But I'm only bringing this up because 0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:25.040 we were talking about being a fan and a friend, 0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:30.040 and you look at those two who are megastars way 0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:35.120 beyond hip hop culture, just global superstars in so many ways, and. 0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:38.840 You forget sometimes that stars are fans. 0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:43.960 Yeah, And watching them together and watching them together was 0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:47.960 so beautiful. And I also think that it speaks to 0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:53.719 a camaraderie and a fraternity like environment in hip hop 0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:54.840 that's truly special. 0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:55.239 Yep. 0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:58.520 Maybe basketball has it, maybe baseball, maybe sports has it. 0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:01.160 I wouldn't know, not my terrorists, but I don't know 0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:07.400 how many businesses in this world that exists in And 0:55:09.600 --> 0:55:12.400 it's clearly more than a business. It's a culture. But 0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:17.279 there's such a fraternity and a camaraderie amongst I think 0:55:17.320 --> 0:55:20.920 people in hip hop, and it was a beautiful thing 0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:21.480 to watch. 0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:24.839 Specific you were witnessing a full circle moment between these 0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:25.640 two artists. 0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:30.200 You know, you're known for DJ and some of the 0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:33.560 biggest parties, right not as hip hops in gentlemen, Have 0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:35.080 you e a DJ for Michael Jackson? 0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:35.640 No? 0:55:35.800 --> 0:55:38.920 So, Michael Jackson when he died was one. He was 0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:40.880 the only person that I had never met that I 0:55:40.920 --> 0:55:41.440 wanted to. 0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:43.360 You about to say, DJ is a funeral. 0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:55.719 You met Prince, I've met me so so Prince and 0:55:55.800 --> 0:55:57.720 I performed at the White House together. 0:55:58.520 --> 0:55:59.440 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 0:55:59.280 --> 0:56:02.239 Talking about so Prince and I performed at the White House. 0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:04.200 It was one of the many times I DJ at 0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:08.200 the White House years of the Obama administration. 0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:11.799 I need to ask, Okay, did Prince invite you? 0:56:11.880 --> 0:56:12.000 All? 0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:13.680 This was Obama administration. 0:56:14.520 --> 0:56:17.080 So I got a call but I guess I have 0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:19.920 to give some context. Please, over the eight years of 0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:21.800 Obama's administration. 0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:22.919 I've never been invited to the White House. 0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:25.839 Well, it was a special time. 0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:28.799 I don't know that now you can feel exactly like 0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:29.520 what that felt. 0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:31.799 A lot of hip hop'st were going on at the time. 0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:34.160 I just think for so many reasons, I think that's 0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:36.000 that was a time that just. 0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:39.799 It was. Yeah, it was a special moment in time. 0:56:40.000 --> 0:56:42.000 And so did you smell weed at the White House? 0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:42.640 No? 0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:45.520 I didn't, No, No, I didn't. They'll tell me if 0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:45.799 you did. 0:56:45.840 --> 0:56:55.520 Anyway, So I was the first DJ to ever play 0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:59.000 a presidential inauguration, and I was the first DJ to 0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:02.839 ever DJ the White House. So you know, there's this 0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:05.319 guy I forgot his name, and I don't know if 0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:05.960 he's still there. 0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:07.760 But okay, can I be fair though, because he didn't 0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:11.080 in w a perform there. So when the interview performed, 0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:15.839 the performed the way he went to a Republican party thing. 0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:16.360 But don't. 0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:19.960 I don't know, but a group might have had a DJ. 0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:22.880 Okay, yeah, yeah, but you DJ is you did the 0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:23.840 party there? Right? 0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:25.680 So the first time I was at the White House 0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:31.320 was actually not the first, the first presidential inauguration that 0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:32.120 Obama had. 0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:33.960 The first, the first inauguration, his. 0:57:34.000 --> 0:57:36.840 Parties were not at the house, Okay, they were at 0:57:36.840 --> 0:57:39.840 a convention center, and I performed live at one of 0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:42.320 those parties. He didn't have access to the house yet. 0:57:42.560 --> 0:57:46.800 In the first inauguration, you get inaugurated January twenty. 0:57:46.880 --> 0:57:48.320 No, I think you move in that day. 0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:53.160 So you could have, but perhaps that was the reason. 0:57:53.160 --> 0:57:55.640 But anyway, it's a big convention hall and there's like 0:57:55.760 --> 0:57:58.440 eight different parties going on, so I was like the 0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:01.440 curator of the music for all the rooms, and I 0:58:01.480 --> 0:58:03.560 played live in one of the rooms. But it was 0:58:03.560 --> 0:58:07.520 fairly impersonal, right. So a year or two later, the 0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:11.720 President is turning fifty and I get a call that 0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:14.400 the President would like you to play his fiftieth. 0:58:14.000 --> 0:58:18.160 Birthday at the White House. That big man. 0:58:18.400 --> 0:58:21.360 So I show up at the White House for soundcheck, 0:58:22.360 --> 0:58:26.480 and it was a moment I'll never forget. There's moments 0:58:26.480 --> 0:58:27.919 in your career. I don't even want to say career, 0:58:27.960 --> 0:58:32.160 there's moments in your life life, yes, where you just 0:58:32.240 --> 0:58:34.200 say how. 0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:34.840 Did I get here? 0:58:35.000 --> 0:58:37.360 You know that song by Talking Heads once in a lifetime, 0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:39.600 And I asked myself how did I get here? As 0:58:39.720 --> 0:58:44.120 the days go right right, so I walk in, I 0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:48.680 go how did I get here? And at that at 0:58:48.760 --> 0:58:52.200 that point, I think I left that night saying this 0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:55.240 was the greatest night of my life because I felt 0:58:55.280 --> 0:58:58.000 that what I did had a little meaning. I mean, 0:58:58.040 --> 0:59:00.200 I wasn't the leader of the free world, but I 0:59:00.320 --> 0:59:03.880 just thought that I left with a little more meaning 0:59:03.960 --> 0:59:05.960 than I had gone in. 0:59:06.680 --> 0:59:08.880 Let me ask you something, does the president pay? 0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:12.600 I did not accept money from the president. 0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:16.280 But did he say you want the bag or you 0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:18.880 just the first one would have been the DNC. I 0:59:18.920 --> 0:59:19.640 can't second one. 0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:23.440 I can't speak for others, but I never accepted money 0:59:23.440 --> 0:59:24.160 from the president. 0:59:24.240 --> 0:59:26.520 For me, it was an honor they had that the 0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:27.360 thing that you got in. 0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:33.760 Friends as funny as that. 0:59:33.880 --> 0:59:35.400 I want to know that. 0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:37.400 So did it take care of travel at least? 0:59:37.480 --> 0:59:37.640 Yeah? 0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:39.120 Of course travel and equipment. 0:59:39.160 --> 0:59:41.640 And the crazy thing is is my sound guy at 0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:45.440 the time he fully outfitted the White House. So years 0:59:45.520 --> 0:59:48.120 later when the party with prints happened, it's my sound 0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:48.920 guy outfitt this out. 0:59:49.000 --> 0:59:49.720 Like these were. 0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:54.440 Full on parties, full on parties. So what unfolded that 0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:58.640 night after I walked in? I was not even prepared 0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:02.880 for Okay, I'm. 1:00:02.680 --> 1:00:03.480 About to go on. 1:00:03.840 --> 1:00:06.280 And when I say go on, if you're looking at 1:00:06.320 --> 1:00:09.720 the White House, if you can picture the pillars right, 1:00:09.720 --> 1:00:10.480 there's windows. 1:00:10.840 --> 1:00:12.040 I don't know what the room's called. 1:00:12.240 --> 1:00:14.200 I did it ten times, but this is the last 1:00:14.280 --> 1:00:16.040 room on the left, the last window on the. 1:00:16.040 --> 1:00:19.040 Left, Lincoln Room. 1:00:19.040 --> 1:00:19.360 I don't know. 1:00:19.960 --> 1:00:21.480 We're not so we're not. 1:00:26.120 --> 1:00:29.920 So we're not talking about a tent or in a 1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:31.480 dndum event area. 1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:33.840 We're talking about the White House. 1:00:34.320 --> 1:00:34.880 That's crazy. 1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:38.919 Eleanor Roosevelt designed rooms in the White House, the Blue Room, 1:00:38.960 --> 1:00:41.240 Green Room, Yellow Room, in Red room years ago and 1:00:41.320 --> 1:00:43.240 now they're where the tourists go to see. You see 1:00:43.240 --> 1:00:45.000 the Red room, the Blue room, and next to all 1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:49.640 these rooms is the party room. Coincidentally, the red room 1:00:50.000 --> 1:00:52.280 was the green room, meaning the dressing room. 1:00:52.640 --> 1:00:55.800 So I'm in this red room and. 1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:59.720 I call my grandmother at that time, eighty years old Holocaust, 1:00:59.800 --> 1:01:03.960 you know, survivor came to America with nothing, and I say. 1:01:03.760 --> 1:01:06.520 Mama, guess where I am. 1:01:06.680 --> 1:01:09.720 And she knows, obviously, she says where And I. 1:01:09.680 --> 1:01:12.760 Said, I'm in the Red Room at. 1:01:12.600 --> 1:01:13.320 The White House. 1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:18.400 And you could just hear her having chills down her spine, 1:01:18.400 --> 1:01:20.600 and at that moment I knew that this night, if 1:01:20.640 --> 1:01:23.360 I never did it again, if I never came here again, 1:01:24.440 --> 1:01:27.080 this moment was special. So I get a tap on 1:01:27.120 --> 1:01:30.760 the shoulder and someone says, hi, DJ Cassidy, Stevie Wonder 1:01:30.800 --> 1:01:34.880 would like to talk to you. So I immediately say, 1:01:35.040 --> 1:01:38.920 why is anyone asking my permission for Stevie Wonder to 1:01:38.960 --> 1:01:39.920 come say hello to me? 1:01:40.040 --> 1:01:40.120 Like? 1:01:40.320 --> 1:01:47.480 Yes, can he please? Where is he? I'll go, hello, Steve. 1:01:52.960 --> 1:01:53.960 He saw you on his way in. 1:01:54.480 --> 1:01:59.600 So already this is starting off bizarre, like overly polite, 1:01:59.680 --> 1:02:01.200 like you know, strange, like. 1:02:01.240 --> 1:02:02.480 Why are you asking it? 1:02:02.600 --> 1:02:06.920 Stevie Wonder, of course come interrupt my phone call. I 1:02:07.000 --> 1:02:08.920 literally said, Mama, I'll call you back. I got to 1:02:08.960 --> 1:02:15.400 talk to Stevie Wonder. So Stevie comes up. So let 1:02:15.480 --> 1:02:17.480 me paint this picture. I'm in the Red Room. It's 1:02:17.480 --> 1:02:19.600 a famous room, you can google it, very Louis the 1:02:19.640 --> 1:02:20.440 sixteenth or. 1:02:20.480 --> 1:02:22.479 Nate Versailles, like all gold, red. 1:02:24.440 --> 1:02:26.200 And the party people are in this room right to 1:02:26.280 --> 1:02:29.560 my left, five hundred people and the president is on 1:02:29.800 --> 1:02:34.040 stage thinking Janelle mone for performing, about to bring me on, 1:02:35.640 --> 1:02:37.840 but very casual. This is not a black tie event. 1:02:37.880 --> 1:02:42.440 This was like Sunday afternoon vibes. So Stevie comes up 1:02:42.440 --> 1:02:45.920 to me and goes DJ Cassidy. So I was thinking 1:02:45.960 --> 1:02:48.640 we could do some I've done things with him at 1:02:48.640 --> 1:02:49.600 this point before. 1:02:50.240 --> 1:02:51.320 So he goes Cassidy. 1:02:52.320 --> 1:02:55.560 I was thinking, maybe we could collaborate and I'll come 1:02:55.600 --> 1:02:57.960 on and sit at the keyboard and surprise the President. 1:02:59.080 --> 1:03:01.760 I said, I'd love that. So he goes, maybe I'll 1:03:01.840 --> 1:03:04.240 just do sign Sealed Delivered? Could you drop a beat 1:03:04.280 --> 1:03:09.200 to that? So I'm thinking I have a solid fifteen 1:03:09.320 --> 1:03:12.840 minutes to prepare. What beat I'm gonna loop in serato 1:03:13.040 --> 1:03:14.840 for him to play sign Sealed Delivered. 1:03:15.280 --> 1:03:17.800 That fifteen minutes was fifteen seconds. 1:03:18.720 --> 1:03:21.880 Stevie walks on stage with the guy you know that 1:03:22.800 --> 1:03:25.400 holds his hand, and the next thing you know, the 1:03:25.400 --> 1:03:28.720 President goes, oh, looks like we have a guest unexpected 1:03:29.200 --> 1:03:33.760 Stevie Wonder. And Stevie Wonder sits at the keyboard and 1:03:33.800 --> 1:03:36.520 I follow him. I don't know what I'm about to do, 1:03:37.880 --> 1:03:41.040 so I have about thirty seconds to say to myself, 1:03:41.320 --> 1:03:41.919 what beat? 1:03:42.080 --> 1:03:44.840 I just caught that he followed Stevie or stage. 1:03:45.000 --> 1:03:46.600 I followed Stevie on stage because he. 1:03:46.560 --> 1:03:47.840 Wanted me to jam with him. 1:03:48.800 --> 1:03:54.560 Literally stee moddy, so. 1:03:56.960 --> 1:03:58.120 Very independent. 1:03:58.320 --> 1:04:02.240 Yes, So Stevie was being got it, and I knew 1:04:02.560 --> 1:04:07.520 that if I wasn't there, he wouldn't realize I wasn't there. 1:04:07.600 --> 1:04:10.520 He thought I was ready to rock with him. So 1:04:10.560 --> 1:04:13.240 in thirty seconds, I'm thinking, what the hell am I going. 1:04:13.200 --> 1:04:14.640 To do with sign Sealed Delivered? 1:04:16.680 --> 1:04:19.760 So the President still talking, The President now announces Stevie 1:04:19.800 --> 1:04:22.880 Wonder and DJ Cassidy and he plays the first chords 1:04:22.920 --> 1:04:28.600 to sign Sealed Delivered Dan and I pull up Billy 1:04:28.640 --> 1:04:33.160 Squire Big Beat, praying that I have those first four 1:04:33.240 --> 1:04:39.480 bars looped on serato, not looped so I'm sure you 1:04:39.560 --> 1:04:44.080 guys know, but for those listening, Billy Squire Big Beat 1:04:44.880 --> 1:04:47.120 is a song from the seventies, a rock song that 1:04:47.320 --> 1:04:49.600 was first made famous when run DMC used it. 1:04:49.680 --> 1:04:52.600 For here we Go, Here we Go, Here we Go, 1:04:52.760 --> 1:04:55.160 Here we Go, Here Here, Here we Go and. 1:04:55.280 --> 1:04:58.120 Run DMC's performance of here we Go was never recorded 1:04:58.120 --> 1:05:00.280 in a studio, was recorded live at the Fund and 1:05:00.320 --> 1:05:02.560 you can hear Jim Master j going back and forth 1:05:02.640 --> 1:05:05.480 every four bars, and I think there's one or two 1:05:05.560 --> 1:05:07.400 times he kind of messes it up, but he catches 1:05:07.480 --> 1:05:10.160 it r Wow, and then Rick Rubin used it for 1:05:10.280 --> 1:05:14.600 ninety nine problems, so I know it's about the same 1:05:14.720 --> 1:05:16.720 tempo as sign Seal Delivered. 1:05:17.200 --> 1:05:23.360 Right, So Stevie starts singing as that is pretty so long. 1:05:24.200 --> 1:05:28.560 That is still wrong. Baby here here, I am sign 1:05:28.680 --> 1:05:32.800 sealed delivered. I'm yours pool boo boo boo boo boo 1:05:33.040 --> 1:05:36.640 boo boo, poo boo boo. 1:05:37.320 --> 1:05:41.600 And I do that for the next five minutes while 1:05:41.800 --> 1:05:45.640 he not only performs sign Sealed Delivered, but an extended, 1:05:46.040 --> 1:05:53.680 improvised version of sign seals so I can picture it 1:05:53.800 --> 1:05:56.600 like it was yesterday. He's right here, everyone's right here, 1:05:56.640 --> 1:05:59.000 and I'm kind of tilted. They were gonna move me 1:05:59.080 --> 1:06:01.560 out straight. I was on wheels, but because he was there, 1:06:01.600 --> 1:06:06.960 now I'm tilted and I'm cutting up this song, praying 1:06:07.040 --> 1:06:10.120 that I just stay on, you know, on beat. Every 1:06:10.240 --> 1:06:14.000 four bars. Stevie's rocking, and I kind of turned to 1:06:14.120 --> 1:06:17.640 my right. I didn't wear glasses then, so it's probably easier. 1:06:18.160 --> 1:06:22.080 And I see Jay Z and Chris rock the White 1:06:22.120 --> 1:06:24.520 House still and they're nodding their head. You know that 1:06:24.680 --> 1:06:26.760 mean face you make at the studio when you like 1:06:26.800 --> 1:06:28.880 a beat. You know that face and the head nod 1:06:30.480 --> 1:06:38.840 there boom, and I look at them and they see 1:06:38.920 --> 1:06:41.760 me seeing them, and at that moment. 1:06:43.480 --> 1:06:44.520 All the pressure went off. 1:06:44.760 --> 1:06:47.040 Then I was rocking when I saw that, and it 1:06:47.120 --> 1:06:48.640 was one of the greatest moments in my life. 1:06:53.960 --> 1:07:03.680 That's okay in there and it wasn't like the street party. 1:07:04.720 --> 1:07:05.720 Where are you segueing to that? 1:07:06.040 --> 1:07:09.720 He said, this Babo story cot in the way he said, 1:07:09.760 --> 1:07:10.800 Stevie dropped. 1:07:10.600 --> 1:07:11.600 Steve dropping. 1:07:15.280 --> 1:07:17.919 Yo, listen on the way one listen. 1:07:18.280 --> 1:07:20.240 You know, you know what's crazy about Stevie wonder we 1:07:20.320 --> 1:07:21.880 have so many people who come on the show. 1:07:22.400 --> 1:07:22.919 He love Steve. 1:07:22.960 --> 1:07:24.160 Be one of the stories if you have so many, 1:07:24.240 --> 1:07:28.000 because Shack is still the best that Jack said, that's. 1:07:27.880 --> 1:07:30.320 What he was like. He believed like it was believable 1:07:30.360 --> 1:07:30.960 the way he said it. 1:07:31.600 --> 1:07:33.919 Jack said he got in the elevator with Stevie, wasn't 1:07:34.240 --> 1:07:34.880 by himself. 1:07:35.040 --> 1:07:39.800 Just must say. He pressed the butt. He said, what's up, 1:07:39.880 --> 1:07:42.640 Shack up? Yeah, and I think he said he present. 1:07:42.680 --> 1:07:43.200 But after. 1:07:44.680 --> 1:07:49.160 Walking the snow the Rosley said. Roy said he saw 1:07:49.240 --> 1:07:52.520 Stevie walking across the street street on the busy street, 1:07:52.760 --> 1:07:55.280 and he said he went, they went and got him, 1:07:55.440 --> 1:07:59.680 but we right I forget, I forget exactly what he was. 1:08:01.280 --> 1:08:06.600 Everyone a Stevie story that transcends logic because he's actually 1:08:06.720 --> 1:08:07.880 not a logical person. 1:08:08.080 --> 1:08:10.520 But there are really if you think about it. 1:08:11.680 --> 1:08:14.800 Just then doctor called him at five am. 1:08:15.320 --> 1:08:16.439 Yeah he's he's not. 1:08:16.960 --> 1:08:21.040 But that's why there's very few artists that that have 1:08:21.240 --> 1:08:25.400 this level of genius. So it makes sense that most 1:08:25.479 --> 1:08:29.679 of the stories we hear are beyond you know, daily logic, 1:08:29.800 --> 1:08:33.320 because his whole being is is is a superhuman. 1:08:33.800 --> 1:08:38.960 Yes, I want to talk about a different super human. Recently, 1:08:39.280 --> 1:08:41.560 a friend of mine is just released his trailer to 1:08:41.640 --> 1:08:45.800 a movie. Uh, he made me a lego character. His 1:08:45.920 --> 1:08:48.320 name is will What is what is your connection with 1:08:48.400 --> 1:08:49.040 Harrel Williams. 1:08:50.080 --> 1:08:53.840 I've known Pharrell for years and actually Pharrell called on 1:08:53.960 --> 1:08:58.160 me to DJ his three three of his closest friend's weddings, 1:09:01.640 --> 1:09:06.360 DJ Shay's wedding from N E r D and two 1:09:06.520 --> 1:09:10.599 other very close people in his life. So I've known 1:09:10.640 --> 1:09:14.360 Pharrell throughout the years. He's been a supporter of my 1:09:14.520 --> 1:09:18.160 career and on various occasions that were important to him. 1:09:19.880 --> 1:09:22.880 I was kind of his gift to the wedding, which 1:09:22.960 --> 1:09:25.800 is very flattering, I mean and never. I take that 1:09:25.960 --> 1:09:30.240 responsibility very seriously. Get I get nervous to DJ parties 1:09:30.280 --> 1:09:34.759 to this day, especially if it's for someone whom I admire. 1:09:34.880 --> 1:09:36.960 You know, when Pharrell calls you to DJ a party, 1:09:37.000 --> 1:09:39.360 Farrell could call any DJ, and any DJ would go, 1:09:39.439 --> 1:09:41.599 would jump at the opportunity. 1:09:41.439 --> 1:09:42.040 As do I. 1:09:43.160 --> 1:09:47.120 And so when anyone of that stature, with critical ears, 1:09:47.760 --> 1:09:50.519 with extremely critical ears, who most people on Earth hold 1:09:50.600 --> 1:09:54.320 on a very high pedestal, We're not just talking about 1:09:54.320 --> 1:09:57.920 your average producer, someone who's commonly thought of as the 1:09:58.000 --> 1:10:02.840 ears you want to respect you. So when he calls 1:10:02.960 --> 1:10:06.439 me for a wedding of his three best friends, it's 1:10:06.520 --> 1:10:09.600 something I take very seriously. But I could say that 1:10:09.680 --> 1:10:12.599 across the board, whether it's the White House or fell 1:10:12.680 --> 1:10:14.920 or anyone of that nature. 1:10:15.080 --> 1:10:17.040 Beyonce, Beyonce and Jay. 1:10:18.000 --> 1:10:19.040 You worked with them both. 1:10:19.720 --> 1:10:20.400 I did their wedding. 1:10:20.840 --> 1:10:24.120 That's fucking awesome. What kind of DNA? 1:10:24.439 --> 1:10:24.760 What is that? 1:10:24.920 --> 1:10:30.280 NDA? You had to sign for that? And DA? 1:10:30.400 --> 1:10:32.439 I mean it was a long time agoing now, I'm sure. 1:10:32.479 --> 1:10:35.479 I just I'm known for reading things over and over 1:10:35.560 --> 1:10:37.400 and not signing them on site. I'm sure I just 1:10:37.439 --> 1:10:40.400 signed it. I do remember I didn't bring anyone I 1:10:40.600 --> 1:10:43.800 was asked not to bring like a side man or 1:10:43.880 --> 1:10:46.280 like a tech. I think I might have been able 1:10:46.360 --> 1:10:49.960 to bring my tech to sound check. It was at 1:10:49.960 --> 1:10:53.080 their apartment in Tribeca. It was very small, you know, 1:10:53.800 --> 1:10:56.240 like you got to understand, no matter how big your 1:10:56.320 --> 1:11:00.200 apartment is in Manhattan, it's still an apartment, right, It's 1:11:00.200 --> 1:11:03.479 still not a house. Okay, So I think I might 1:11:03.560 --> 1:11:07.000 have brought someone for sound check, but no one at night, 1:11:08.160 --> 1:11:11.439 and I remember it being like a marathon, like I 1:11:11.560 --> 1:11:13.720 must have got there and ate. But here's the funny thing. 1:11:14.520 --> 1:11:16.880 So the only photo of that wedding is me walking 1:11:16.960 --> 1:11:20.240 into the lobby. So apparently they sent me a car 1:11:20.400 --> 1:11:22.160 to pick me up in my apartment. The car never 1:11:22.200 --> 1:11:23.519 showed up, so I took a taxi. 1:11:28.760 --> 1:11:30.760 I'm just gonna get this correct. Did you us just 1:11:30.800 --> 1:11:31.759 say you took a taxi? 1:11:31.920 --> 1:11:33.760 I took a taxi to their weddings because the car 1:11:33.880 --> 1:11:35.599 service never showed up and I didn't want to be late. 1:11:36.439 --> 1:11:37.680 I didn't want to be late, so I left the 1:11:37.720 --> 1:11:42.439 apartment hailed a taxi. This was way before any apps. 1:11:42.560 --> 1:11:43.360 Yeah, so. 1:11:45.360 --> 1:11:48.600 All the celebrities are directed from the car services on 1:11:48.720 --> 1:11:49.120 where to go. 1:11:49.760 --> 1:11:50.960 So down the garage. 1:11:51.160 --> 1:11:55.040 Right, So all the paparazzi shots or of the celebrities 1:11:55.160 --> 1:11:58.360 like through the SUVs. But the one shot they have 1:11:58.479 --> 1:12:00.519 of the whole wedding is me walking in the front 1:12:00.560 --> 1:12:03.960 door of the main lobby in my like black velvet texto. 1:12:05.000 --> 1:12:05.639 I took a tax. 1:12:06.120 --> 1:12:06.280 Yeah. 1:12:06.320 --> 1:12:08.320 Had I not done that, there would have been you know, 1:12:08.479 --> 1:12:10.160 no first song was Was. 1:12:10.280 --> 1:12:14.120 There any black class from them? They're like, oh, nah, okay, now, 1:12:14.600 --> 1:12:15.439 so okay. 1:12:16.560 --> 1:12:19.320 I've done so many events, you know my mouth was 1:12:20.320 --> 1:12:22.120 you know, I never had a big mouth at these things. 1:12:22.160 --> 1:12:24.439 I mean that was part of why I was there. 1:12:24.680 --> 1:12:27.080 It was getting high. Okay, one person around a little bit. 1:12:27.200 --> 1:12:30.320 One thing I know is very private people. 1:12:30.680 --> 1:12:33.200 So how do you get this call? And then how 1:12:33.240 --> 1:12:34.640 do you get the first time you got to work with? 1:12:34.800 --> 1:12:37.479 Right? So I think this was anyone could google it. 1:12:37.520 --> 1:12:39.560 But I think they got married in two thousand and 1:12:39.720 --> 1:12:42.679 seven or was it fourteen? 1:12:42.920 --> 1:12:46.400 I don't know why. I'm thinking it was seven. No, 1:12:46.520 --> 1:12:47.160 I think it was. 1:12:49.400 --> 1:12:52.400 It wasn't fourteen. I think it was seven. I think 1:12:52.439 --> 1:12:52.960 it was seven. 1:12:53.520 --> 1:12:54.040 It was seven. 1:12:56.720 --> 1:13:00.360 Nobody cares about when you got married, sir, And I. 1:13:00.400 --> 1:13:01.920 Think it was April fourth. 1:13:02.840 --> 1:13:06.479 I think they're two thousand and eight April fourth, and 1:13:06.600 --> 1:13:10.639 I think they're lucky. Number is four, so was the fourth. Yeah, 1:13:10.680 --> 1:13:14.519 so it's four to four and blue Ivy ivy is 1:13:14.560 --> 1:13:14.920 a four. 1:13:15.960 --> 1:13:16.120 Oh. 1:13:18.720 --> 1:13:23.800 So I had already been djaying Jay's parties for at 1:13:23.920 --> 1:13:27.680 least five years. Wow, So I got my first call 1:13:27.800 --> 1:13:31.200 from J. I think I was still in school, so 1:13:31.280 --> 1:13:34.400 I must have been maybe twenty. And so I would 1:13:34.520 --> 1:13:39.400 dj all all his parties, his birthdays, then Beyonce's parties 1:13:39.439 --> 1:13:42.920 when he threw them the forty forty club opening in 1:13:43.000 --> 1:13:47.320 Atlantic City and Vegas and all of those and college. Heah, 1:13:47.320 --> 1:13:51.160 I was in college at that point, and so I 1:13:51.240 --> 1:13:53.280 had been doing all his parties. So the call to 1:13:53.400 --> 1:13:55.919 do his wedding was not at all abnormal. 1:13:56.160 --> 1:13:58.240 Yeah it was. It was not abnormal at the time. 1:13:58.320 --> 1:14:01.240 But still, as I say, you know about all these things, 1:14:01.280 --> 1:14:03.840 I don't want to say the same thing every time. Granted, 1:14:04.640 --> 1:14:07.760 look that's the two greatest entertainers of our time. Mind you, 1:14:08.200 --> 1:14:10.759 this is now fifteen years later, even more the greatest 1:14:10.840 --> 1:14:11.880 entertainers of all times. 1:14:11.920 --> 1:14:14.439 Right, Like we knew then, but you know now right, 1:14:15.200 --> 1:14:18.479 and you know they could have anyone, you know, anyone. 1:14:18.560 --> 1:14:20.720 And also This wasn't a wedding where they bring out 1:14:21.280 --> 1:14:22.920 you know, this R and B singer to sing the 1:14:23.000 --> 1:14:25.400 first dance and this band to do now it was 1:14:25.720 --> 1:14:30.280 it was literally just me, wow and control the entire 1:14:30.360 --> 1:14:31.439 party from beginning to end. 1:14:31.479 --> 1:14:33.280 How do you approach that playlist? Do they tell you 1:14:33.800 --> 1:14:34.160 you too? 1:14:35.000 --> 1:14:35.040 So? 1:14:38.080 --> 1:14:40.160 No, I don't think there was any talk of music 1:14:40.240 --> 1:14:42.720 other than like the first dance and the entrance song, 1:14:42.880 --> 1:14:45.360 like those songs you know that the bride and room choose. 1:14:46.520 --> 1:14:49.160 I think there was no discussion of music because I 1:14:49.280 --> 1:14:53.679 had been doing this with him now for years. Yeah. 1:14:53.680 --> 1:14:56.600 I don't think they were coming to me to direct it. 1:14:56.960 --> 1:14:59.800 I think they were coming to me for me, you know, 1:15:00.080 --> 1:15:03.000 to do me right. But i'm you know, still to 1:15:03.120 --> 1:15:06.000 this day, and I I mean, I swear to God, 1:15:06.040 --> 1:15:07.880 I think about this sometimes, like when I go to 1:15:07.960 --> 1:15:11.280 her concerts, right like the Renaissance Store, I think about it. 1:15:11.479 --> 1:15:17.240 I sit there thinking about it. I DJ their wedding. 1:15:17.560 --> 1:15:20.000 It still feels like a very big deal to me. 1:15:22.439 --> 1:15:26.840 I don't let those things. I don't allow myself to 1:15:26.920 --> 1:15:30.519 become jaded. I actually keep those memories as memories that 1:15:30.680 --> 1:15:34.519 continue to inspire me and hype me up because the 1:15:34.640 --> 1:15:36.880 two greatest entertainers in the world. 1:15:39.200 --> 1:15:40.360 Could really call anyone. 1:15:40.560 --> 1:15:43.519 You know, their rolodex doesn't exist because they can get 1:15:43.600 --> 1:15:48.280 everyone's number. And so you know, I was as honored 1:15:48.320 --> 1:15:49.920 then as I am now. In fact, I think I'm 1:15:49.960 --> 1:15:52.720 more honored now by the memory. I think then I 1:15:52.800 --> 1:15:54.880 was probably just so in it. But now when I 1:15:54.960 --> 1:15:57.400 look back, I say, damn, you know, thirty people at 1:15:57.439 --> 1:15:58.200 that party. 1:16:02.640 --> 1:16:07.400 Sounds rich to be. Let me. Let me just look. 1:16:07.400 --> 1:16:10.280 I've been analyzing all night. I want to see if 1:16:10.479 --> 1:16:13.600 I'm correct. Is that the Cardia nail and is that 1:16:13.680 --> 1:16:14.519 the Cardia panther? 1:16:14.680 --> 1:16:16.760 No, so there's no I'm not wearing one name brand. 1:16:16.920 --> 1:16:19.040 Okay, break this down for me. 1:16:19.320 --> 1:16:21.439 So the only thing I'm wearing this is very dev 1:16:22.240 --> 1:16:23.439 I respect it, thank you. 1:16:23.560 --> 1:16:25.599 So the only thing that's name brand that I'm wearing 1:16:25.760 --> 1:16:28.640 is my sneakers air Force ones okay, just white air 1:16:28.720 --> 1:16:33.640 Force one so so oh, and Polo Polo shirt. But 1:16:33.760 --> 1:16:35.880 the suit is custom made. I have all my suits 1:16:35.920 --> 1:16:40.920 made on my stage, attire made. Contrary to what many 1:16:40.960 --> 1:16:44.120 people think, it's not more expensive than buying fancy name 1:16:44.160 --> 1:16:44.719 brand clothes. 1:16:45.040 --> 1:16:46.680 It's not at all. But it's not a money thing. 1:16:47.320 --> 1:16:48.160 It's a fit thing. 1:16:48.560 --> 1:16:50.840 It's I never want to walk on stage or walk 1:16:50.880 --> 1:16:52.760 into a party and someone else has my suit that 1:16:52.840 --> 1:16:56.200 they bought at tom Ford or Gucci. And also the 1:16:56.280 --> 1:16:58.320 crazy you know, the crazy ship I wear I could 1:16:58.360 --> 1:17:00.960 never even find in a store. You know, I'm tall 1:17:01.000 --> 1:17:04.240 and skinny. My body never fit things growing up. You know, 1:17:04.360 --> 1:17:06.559 my posture was always bad. I was lanky. I could 1:17:06.640 --> 1:17:09.200 never fit a suit or a tuxedo. So over the 1:17:09.320 --> 1:17:11.840 years I started custom making clothes. So and I buy 1:17:11.920 --> 1:17:14.720 all my fabrics. So I literally like, if someone ever 1:17:14.800 --> 1:17:17.280 says to me, what do you do besides music, I say, 1:17:17.320 --> 1:17:19.479 I make clothes, But I don't make clothes. 1:17:19.280 --> 1:17:19.760 To sell them. 1:17:20.040 --> 1:17:22.160 I don't go to fashion shows. I know nothing about 1:17:22.280 --> 1:17:25.240 the brands on Fifth Avenue. I know very little about 1:17:25.560 --> 1:17:27.000 about the fashion industry. 1:17:27.400 --> 1:17:28.439 Fashion oval. 1:17:31.720 --> 1:17:34.360 I actually would though. You know, the things I do 1:17:34.520 --> 1:17:38.599 buy are cheap, too expensive, there's no there's no rhyme 1:17:38.720 --> 1:17:41.120 or reason. But really most of what I buy are basics, 1:17:41.240 --> 1:17:44.800 the Air Force ones, the polos. But I have fun 1:17:44.920 --> 1:17:47.360 going to the fabric store. All the fabrics I choose, 1:17:47.400 --> 1:17:51.559 the fabric, I choose the buttons. The jewelry is vintage 1:17:51.600 --> 1:17:52.360 that I either bought. 1:17:52.680 --> 1:17:53.240 I didn't care. 1:17:55.000 --> 1:17:58.559 Okay, so the brooch, so the broke. Oh I should 1:17:58.600 --> 1:18:01.240 have said the glasses are name brand, but the the 1:18:01.360 --> 1:18:08.000 brooch and the cuffs are straight vintage stores, antique stores, 1:18:09.640 --> 1:18:11.160 flea markets, estate sales. 1:18:11.560 --> 1:18:13.920 Don't say flee marketers. He's gonna go crazy and but 1:18:14.080 --> 1:18:18.200 but that's what I do. That's what I do. I 1:18:18.240 --> 1:18:22.519 don't think we give him a bow. He goes to 1:18:22.560 --> 1:18:25.240 the bad it's a different free market. He's a. 1:18:26.760 --> 1:18:30.680 Different market. I can already tell that we've been in 1:18:30.800 --> 1:18:31.320 the same. 1:18:36.800 --> 1:18:37.880 I could give you all the spots. 1:18:37.920 --> 1:18:41.800 You know, they used to be a show you got 1:18:41.880 --> 1:18:42.559 shopping together. 1:18:44.640 --> 1:18:47.600 That's so weird that a state sales champion. 1:18:52.160 --> 1:18:55.439 State sales is where you find all the heat because 1:18:55.479 --> 1:18:56.680 the rich old women die. 1:18:56.920 --> 1:18:57.680 That's that's what I'm saying. 1:18:57.680 --> 1:18:59.599 People don't know he said when he said, that's people 1:18:59.600 --> 1:19:01.920 that passed and they're selling. 1:19:01.680 --> 1:19:02.320 Off the estate. 1:19:02.600 --> 1:19:04.559 I don't wear a name brand jewelry. 1:19:04.680 --> 1:19:08.040 Nothing is expensive, nothing is real gold or diamonds. 1:19:08.080 --> 1:19:10.559 It's costume jewelry, right, it's costume jewelry. 1:19:11.040 --> 1:19:13.120 I don't walk around with anything expensive, and it's not 1:19:13.160 --> 1:19:14.600 it has nothing to do with money. It's just what 1:19:14.680 --> 1:19:20.479 I like I like vintage costume jewelry. The hats are 1:19:20.479 --> 1:19:23.640 all custom made, and I started wearing Boater hats. It 1:19:23.800 --> 1:19:27.040 was I experimented with hats for many years. And so 1:19:27.160 --> 1:19:28.760 there was this hat store in New York where I 1:19:28.800 --> 1:19:31.519 grew up on thirty second and Fifth called JJ Hat Center. 1:19:32.400 --> 1:19:35.080 I used to have a studio on thirty second of Madison. 1:19:35.320 --> 1:19:38.040 So you must know that store was there forever small store. 1:19:38.320 --> 1:19:43.760 So this store was like the classic men's hat store. 1:19:44.680 --> 1:19:46.640 And every time I would go in there, they'd give me, 1:19:46.840 --> 1:19:48.960 you know, something that looked like a run DMC or 1:19:49.080 --> 1:19:54.200 Michael Jackson felterstr And there was always this straw, stiff, thick. 1:19:54.160 --> 1:19:57.280 Boater hat with this brim that was like a it 1:19:57.439 --> 1:19:58.439 was like hard, like a. 1:19:58.880 --> 1:20:02.240 Fucking, you know, weapon, and it looked very old school 1:20:02.360 --> 1:20:05.519 in a stately and I thought maybe I could like 1:20:06.920 --> 1:20:09.240 kind of transform that and it would give me this 1:20:09.400 --> 1:20:12.960 kind of like classic thing, but I would do it, 1:20:13.640 --> 1:20:15.559 you know, in a different way, in a hip hop way, 1:20:15.680 --> 1:20:19.720 or just in a different, you know, modern way. So 1:20:19.800 --> 1:20:22.719 I start experimenting with the boter had it became my signature. 1:20:23.200 --> 1:20:23.800 But then as. 1:20:23.720 --> 1:20:28.599 Styles evolved, I wanted a larger brim. So the machines 1:20:28.640 --> 1:20:32.640 in America can only make the two inch brim, so 1:20:32.800 --> 1:20:35.400 the three inch brim has to be customye. But there's 1:20:35.439 --> 1:20:37.519 only one machine in the world that can make a 1:20:37.640 --> 1:20:40.960 three inch boter hat because of the way the quirk is, 1:20:41.439 --> 1:20:44.200 and that's in Florence, Italy, and one old man has 1:20:44.280 --> 1:20:45.600 that machine, and when he. 1:20:45.720 --> 1:20:46.559 Dies it's a rat. 1:20:47.760 --> 1:20:47.960 Wow. 1:20:48.280 --> 1:20:49.960 So I ordered these hats and you get them when 1:20:50.000 --> 1:20:51.600 you get them, and sometimes you never do. And the 1:20:51.680 --> 1:20:53.600 man's literally an eighty year old man making them in 1:20:53.680 --> 1:20:56.080 this one machine that can make make them he can, 1:20:57.280 --> 1:20:59.519 and then the wrong sizes come and they're all padded. 1:21:00.080 --> 1:21:02.880 So it's a triple layer. You see one, two, three 1:21:02.960 --> 1:21:05.599 layers of cork three inch brim hat, So no one 1:21:05.680 --> 1:21:06.879 really has the three inch. 1:21:10.520 --> 1:21:12.880 I mean a straw boater hat. It's kind of a unique. 1:21:12.960 --> 1:21:14.680 I never knew that's what that was. Cool called the 1:21:14.760 --> 1:21:15.280 boter hat. 1:21:15.479 --> 1:21:18.640 Yeah, I never knew that. I never knew. So let 1:21:18.680 --> 1:21:19.040 me ask you. 1:21:19.840 --> 1:21:23.160 You've been all over the world, what is one of 1:21:23.200 --> 1:21:24.920 the strangest places you ever performed? 1:21:24.960 --> 1:21:27.760 At Kazakhstan? 1:21:28.040 --> 1:21:30.040 You ain't performing Borax country. 1:21:30.280 --> 1:21:38.200 Yeah, So it's nothing like present, which is why that 1:21:38.320 --> 1:21:39.559 country tried to sue him. 1:21:39.560 --> 1:21:41.040 I mean with the whole country. 1:21:41.400 --> 1:21:44.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they were highly offended for. 1:21:44.960 --> 1:21:48.120 The whole country. Yeah, the whole country. Okay, But one 1:21:48.240 --> 1:21:50.880 interesting thing in Kazakhstan is that they eat horse. 1:21:51.720 --> 1:21:53.840 Excuse me, there's not the only country, though, there's other countries. 1:21:54.120 --> 1:21:55.280 It was the first one that I had been. 1:21:55.360 --> 1:21:58.200 So I go to this country to DJ a black 1:21:58.280 --> 1:22:03.479 tie gala like what you would imagine. I'm trying to 1:22:03.520 --> 1:22:06.040 think of an American example, but they're all like European 1:22:06.160 --> 1:22:09.240 galas that would acquaint to that, you know, like a 1:22:09.320 --> 1:22:15.240 gala in can Am Far but in Kazakhstan. And you know, 1:22:15.280 --> 1:22:17.679 I'm seated, I'm a guest before I go on stage, 1:22:17.880 --> 1:22:21.320 and every single portion of the meal was horse meat. 1:22:21.560 --> 1:22:24.000 So that was a bizarre experience. 1:22:29.080 --> 1:22:30.360 Walked, walked the horse. 1:22:30.560 --> 1:22:31.280 This is your office. 1:22:31.560 --> 1:22:32.439 Have you ever had kasaks? 1:22:33.800 --> 1:22:35.519 Have you had then the horse? 1:22:42.760 --> 1:22:45.760 The former US s are No, okay, we had him 1:22:45.920 --> 1:22:46.880 speak about it earlier. 1:22:48.720 --> 1:22:53.719 I had buffalo, buffalo, buffalo wings. 1:22:57.880 --> 1:23:00.280 You were you were going to say something, sir, Oh no, no, 1:23:00.320 --> 1:23:04.080 no oh, yeah, So we spoke about Steve. You spoke 1:23:04.120 --> 1:23:06.360 about it earlier. But how did you come up with this? 1:23:06.720 --> 1:23:09.439 Past of my idea. Was it during the pandemic. 1:23:09.600 --> 1:23:16.120 Yeah, so in April twenty twenty, early pandemic, early when 1:23:16.240 --> 1:23:19.439 no one really knew what was going on. When I was, 1:23:19.560 --> 1:23:22.960 you know, cleaning my groceries with Clorox wipes, that whole era, 1:23:26.000 --> 1:23:29.240 I was facetiming one night with my friend and mentor, 1:23:29.439 --> 1:23:31.839 Verdeen White of Earth Wind and Fire, whom I mentioned 1:23:31.840 --> 1:23:36.519 earlier when we started Nice Floors continue, And so Verdeen 1:23:36.800 --> 1:23:38.800 has been a hero of mine as far back as 1:23:38.800 --> 1:23:40.360 I can remember, and I can tell you the story 1:23:40.400 --> 1:23:42.040 about how we met after. 1:23:42.240 --> 1:23:45.120 But he and I go to dinner every now and then, 1:23:45.160 --> 1:23:46.200 once every couple of months. 1:23:46.240 --> 1:23:48.120 So I called him to check in on him in 1:23:48.240 --> 1:23:52.200 this crazy time, and we were facetiming. Now, for those 1:23:52.240 --> 1:23:56.920 who know Verdeen, everything I say about my clothes and 1:23:57.000 --> 1:24:01.160 my fashion, he's times a thousand. I mean, he's the originator. 1:24:01.960 --> 1:24:05.599 He's the originator. And so I FaceTime him and he's 1:24:05.600 --> 1:24:08.599 sitting on his couch and like red silk pajamas, looking 1:24:08.720 --> 1:24:12.240 like verdein White should And while I'm facetiming with him, 1:24:12.320 --> 1:24:14.800 the Earthwind song That's the Way of the World comes on. 1:24:14.960 --> 1:24:16.839 My son no speakers in the bat. 1:24:18.040 --> 1:24:21.320 And verdein hears his own song and he begins to 1:24:21.439 --> 1:24:28.040 casually sing along. Hearts of Fire Create Love Desire. So 1:24:28.240 --> 1:24:31.680 this ballad on a regular day gives me chills. It's 1:24:31.720 --> 1:24:36.280 one of those ballads that just touches me. But in 1:24:36.400 --> 1:24:41.639 this moment, those chills were multiplied. It's a crazy time 1:24:41.720 --> 1:24:44.840 in the world. I was literally alone for three months. 1:24:45.080 --> 1:24:48.120 I didn't have I didn't have human contact for three months. 1:24:48.160 --> 1:24:50.760 But at that point it was still new and he 1:24:50.840 --> 1:24:56.160 starts singing along the first three months and he starts 1:24:56.200 --> 1:25:00.200 singing along just like nothing, to his own song. And 1:25:00.600 --> 1:25:03.080 I didn't take that moment for granted. I said to 1:25:03.200 --> 1:25:07.320 myself as he's talking, how fortunate am I to have 1:25:07.479 --> 1:25:10.960 relationships with so many of my musical heroes, and how 1:25:11.040 --> 1:25:14.960 fortunate am I to be able to experience their music 1:25:15.280 --> 1:25:16.639 in this intimate way. 1:25:17.520 --> 1:25:19.720 It's crazy how we started this conversation. 1:25:20.439 --> 1:25:24.479 However many you know now it's you know, an hour maybe, 1:25:25.240 --> 1:25:28.639 and it all comes back to the same thing, because 1:25:28.640 --> 1:25:30.759 the first things you asked me were about my heroes 1:25:30.800 --> 1:25:34.160 and my friendships and relationships, and that's what sparked the 1:25:34.200 --> 1:25:34.559 whole thing. 1:25:35.080 --> 1:25:36.719 So I said to myself at that moment. 1:25:36.920 --> 1:25:40.080 Maybe there's a way for me to give people around 1:25:40.120 --> 1:25:43.519 the world during this crazy time the feeling that I 1:25:43.640 --> 1:25:47.320 have right now, at this moment, of interacting with their 1:25:47.439 --> 1:25:51.479 favorite artists and experiencing their favorite songs in. 1:25:51.560 --> 1:25:54.760 A more personal way than ever before. And a light 1:25:54.840 --> 1:26:01.600 bulb went off, and I imai. I immediately envisioned what 1:26:02.000 --> 1:26:03.040 became past the mic. 1:26:03.439 --> 1:26:08.000 I envisioned myself in my living room in front of 1:26:08.040 --> 1:26:12.200 the fireplace with the palm trees and the flamingo wallpaper 1:26:12.240 --> 1:26:15.839 and the lights dim down low, and I envisioned myself 1:26:16.000 --> 1:26:21.120 dropping iconic hip hop and R and B records and 1:26:21.400 --> 1:26:24.880 bringing on screen the legendary hip hop and R and 1:26:24.960 --> 1:26:28.160 B icon who sings that song to sing along. 1:26:29.680 --> 1:26:31.680 And I said, Fortina, I got to call you back. 1:26:32.520 --> 1:26:34.200 And I called my editor Ian. 1:26:34.280 --> 1:26:36.600 And I said Ian, I said, we all know on 1:26:36.760 --> 1:26:38.760 zoom and FaceTime, if I trigger a song, no one 1:26:38.800 --> 1:26:39.920 can sing along in real time. 1:26:39.960 --> 1:26:41.040 They'll be five seconds late. 1:26:41.080 --> 1:26:41.680 How can we do it? 1:26:43.360 --> 1:26:45.240 And forty eight hours later we. 1:26:45.439 --> 1:26:49.760 Concocted a way to break the code and have me 1:26:49.880 --> 1:26:52.800 trigger songs and have people sing along in real time. 1:26:54.200 --> 1:26:59.640 And I started calling every icon of nineteen seventies and 1:26:59.720 --> 1:27:02.880 eighty R and B that I had relationships with. Now 1:27:03.240 --> 1:27:05.200 I knew I couldn't call people that I had never 1:27:05.320 --> 1:27:05.960 met because the. 1:27:06.040 --> 1:27:07.880 Idea was so crazy. No one would do this. 1:27:08.160 --> 1:27:11.200 They had to have some level of trust in me. 1:27:12.080 --> 1:27:15.280 And so I called back for Dean and his partner 1:27:15.320 --> 1:27:17.920 in crime from Earth Win and Fire, Philip Bailey and 1:27:18.120 --> 1:27:21.120 Cool from Cool in the Gang and Patrese Russian and 1:27:21.240 --> 1:27:24.240 Ray Parker Junior and Chryl Lynn and Howard Hewitt and 1:27:24.280 --> 1:27:29.000 Steve Arrington, and I said, guys, I have this idea. 1:27:29.840 --> 1:27:32.920 I'm gonna sit in my living room in front of 1:27:32.960 --> 1:27:35.400 my turntables, and every time I drop one of your records, 1:27:35.439 --> 1:27:37.120 You're gonna pop on screen to sing along. 1:27:37.640 --> 1:27:42.360 Right now, did verses come out before this or the 1:27:42.479 --> 1:27:45.720 d Nice? Is this before that or this just after 1:27:46.320 --> 1:27:46.840 the same time. 1:27:47.120 --> 1:27:48.439 It's all around the same time. 1:27:49.120 --> 1:27:51.680 Come to fish. Yeah, I know. 1:27:51.880 --> 1:27:57.000 D Nice started djaying on Instagram Live almost immediately when 1:27:57.040 --> 1:28:01.400 the lockdown started, so that probably preceded this phone call 1:28:02.160 --> 1:28:04.720 versus I'm forgetting the exact month they started, but I 1:28:04.760 --> 1:28:08.240 think it was all around the same few months, March, April, May, June, July. 1:28:08.479 --> 1:28:08.960 It was all. 1:28:09.640 --> 1:28:13.120 It was all very much happening, and. 1:28:13.200 --> 1:28:18.320 I start calling everyone, and shockingly, everyone says yes, except 1:28:18.400 --> 1:28:22.160 Philip Bailey of Earth Wind and Fire. So I called 1:28:22.240 --> 1:28:25.560 Redeen and I Goverdeen, can you talk to your you know, 1:28:25.800 --> 1:28:29.360 best friend of you know, fifty years And he goes, 1:28:29.439 --> 1:28:32.120 you know, Philip is very cautious and he likes to 1:28:32.200 --> 1:28:35.200 understand what he's doing. So I called Phillip's daughter, Trinity. 1:28:35.240 --> 1:28:39.040 I said, Trinity, can you help me? And finally I 1:28:39.200 --> 1:28:40.679 finished the entire episode. 1:28:41.800 --> 1:28:43.160 You never told me that? He said no. 1:28:43.439 --> 1:28:46.800 He said no, no, my best friends, you know, at 1:28:46.840 --> 1:28:49.000 your birthday party when I wanted to strangle. 1:28:49.000 --> 1:28:52.960 Oh god, I wasn't ready. It wasn't ready. I wasn't 1:28:53.000 --> 1:28:54.000 ready send a block. 1:28:54.360 --> 1:28:55.519 There's a lot of things we got to put a 1:28:55.600 --> 1:28:57.960 pin in. That's one we'll yeah. 1:28:58.760 --> 1:29:03.360 So I filmed the whole show and edited the whole show. 1:29:03.680 --> 1:29:06.559 Now, some things that people don't realize about the show 1:29:06.640 --> 1:29:09.519 is the show took me anywhere from four to eight 1:29:09.600 --> 1:29:15.880 weeks to create, to conceptualize, to playlists, to reach out 1:29:15.880 --> 1:29:19.960 to the artists, to film them all individually, and then 1:29:20.000 --> 1:29:21.040 to put everything together. 1:29:21.400 --> 1:29:23.400 So it looked like I never got up from the chair. 1:29:25.360 --> 1:29:29.120 So the first episode is now assembled, and it's for 1:29:29.240 --> 1:29:32.439 Dean White playing bass on the song that inspired the 1:29:32.520 --> 1:29:35.920 whole thing, that's the way of the World. Into Sayita 1:29:36.000 --> 1:29:38.439 Garrett doing her duet with Michael Jackson. I just can't 1:29:38.439 --> 1:29:41.000 stop loving you and to picture He's Russian to and 1:29:41.120 --> 1:29:45.680 remind me into Denise Williams, so on and so on, 1:29:46.560 --> 1:29:48.880 and now there's twenty R. 1:29:48.880 --> 1:29:49.839 And B icons. 1:29:50.680 --> 1:29:54.200 And I called Philip Bailey's daughter and I say, can 1:29:54.240 --> 1:29:57.080 I please speak to your dad? So she puts them 1:29:57.080 --> 1:29:57.439 on the phone. 1:29:57.479 --> 1:29:58.360 I go film. 1:30:00.120 --> 1:30:01.240 The thing I was talking about. 1:30:01.320 --> 1:30:01.800 He said yeah. 1:30:02.240 --> 1:30:05.439 I said, look, I finished the whole episode. I left 1:30:05.479 --> 1:30:10.200 the space for you to sing with Maurice White. Maurice White, 1:30:10.720 --> 1:30:12.800 who died I think now about ten years ago, the 1:30:12.840 --> 1:30:16.439 founder of the group. He sings half the song. The 1:30:16.560 --> 1:30:19.080 song is Maurice White and Philip Bailey. I said, I 1:30:19.160 --> 1:30:22.400 want you to sing with Maurice White. So I said, look, 1:30:22.439 --> 1:30:24.799 I'm going to send you the episode. Okay, let's schedule 1:30:24.880 --> 1:30:26.360 a time to do it. I'm going to send it 1:30:26.439 --> 1:30:29.760 to you. If you don't love how this turned out, 1:30:30.400 --> 1:30:35.519 we never had the call. Good but on everything I've 1:30:35.600 --> 1:30:38.439 ever said, on everything we've ever collaborated on, and we 1:30:38.520 --> 1:30:40.960 had collaborated on a few things. I said, give me 1:30:41.080 --> 1:30:44.240 thirty minutes of your time and you have my word 1:30:44.439 --> 1:30:47.760 that you'll be proud of the product. So he did it, 1:30:49.320 --> 1:30:52.040 and I edited it and I sent it to him, 1:30:52.280 --> 1:30:55.320 and five minutes later his daughter texted me in said approved. 1:30:57.160 --> 1:31:01.000 And that was the beginning of what became something I 1:31:01.080 --> 1:31:05.759 could have never ever imagined. And I finished this episode 1:31:05.840 --> 1:31:09.240 in late May early June, and I didn't premiere it 1:31:09.320 --> 1:31:12.320 till a month later, and I texted it to Steve, 1:31:12.760 --> 1:31:16.840 who didn't know anything about it at that point, and 1:31:16.920 --> 1:31:18.639 I said, Steve, watch this and call me back. 1:31:18.760 --> 1:31:22.400 And you had you had recorded it online on Instagram Live. 1:31:22.400 --> 1:31:25.920 I would no, no, no, no, you just pre recorded. 1:31:26.280 --> 1:31:28.600 Okay, So Instagram had nothing to do with past the 1:31:28.640 --> 1:31:33.160 Mike Evra YouTube. It was premiered on YouTube, and it 1:31:33.320 --> 1:31:35.840 was never filmed on Instagram Live or Zoom or any 1:31:35.880 --> 1:31:37.080 of the common apps we use. 1:31:37.600 --> 1:31:37.880 Okay. 1:31:38.880 --> 1:31:41.920 It was a show that I filmed individually, edited. 1:31:42.520 --> 1:31:44.479 But when you couldn't go to anyone's house, it was 1:31:44.640 --> 1:31:47.759 quite a puzzle to put together on how to teach artists, 1:31:47.800 --> 1:31:50.439 some of whom at that time were over the age 1:31:50.479 --> 1:31:55.320 of seventy the computers, so I sent it to Steve. Now, 1:31:55.400 --> 1:31:58.760 before I sent it to Steve, I had sent this 1:31:58.920 --> 1:32:06.280 to every block, every website, every magazine, every network, and said, 1:32:06.320 --> 1:32:09.040 would you premiere this for me? Now? You know, like 1:32:09.120 --> 1:32:12.040 a new single, premiere's, new music video premiere. It's a 1:32:12.080 --> 1:32:14.240 little vanity thing. It's not a big deal. Couldn't get 1:32:14.240 --> 1:32:15.080 one person's a premiere? 1:32:15.200 --> 1:32:15.400 Wow? 1:32:15.479 --> 1:32:19.919 Yeah, And my YouTube subscribership was low. I'm not a YouTuber. 1:32:20.120 --> 1:32:23.799 I have a basic subscribership. I've had six music videos. 1:32:24.800 --> 1:32:28.160 So I send it to Steve Rifkin, who's my dear 1:32:28.240 --> 1:32:30.320 friend and mentor for many years, and I say, Steve 1:32:30.400 --> 1:32:30.720 watched this. 1:32:30.800 --> 1:32:32.479 Now he has no idea what he's about to watch. 1:32:34.320 --> 1:32:37.720 So he calls me twenty eight minutes later and says, 1:32:37.800 --> 1:32:40.479 this is the greatest thing I've ever seen. And I 1:32:40.600 --> 1:32:46.439 said since COVID And he said no. Ever, he said, 1:32:46.479 --> 1:32:49.120 this is going to change your life. And it changed 1:32:49.200 --> 1:32:50.240 my life really. 1:32:56.080 --> 1:32:59.920 Because I feel like we're hearing all the name dropping 1:33:00.080 --> 1:33:02.479 that you can, that you're saying, and all the things 1:33:02.520 --> 1:33:04.559 that you've done up to this point. But I want 1:33:04.560 --> 1:33:08.400 to go further back. How does this ten year old 1:33:08.520 --> 1:33:12.360 DJ who starts to get these turntables, starts djaying you're 1:33:12.400 --> 1:33:14.479 in Then you go to the high school college. What 1:33:14.720 --> 1:33:18.840 is the break that makes you feel that, Okay, there's 1:33:18.880 --> 1:33:21.080 something here, I could really do this, I could do 1:33:21.160 --> 1:33:23.360 a career in this view. What's the break, what's the 1:33:23.479 --> 1:33:25.360 what's the thing that starts to get these people to 1:33:25.720 --> 1:33:28.160 call you to do these parties, to give you these 1:33:28.360 --> 1:33:30.759 these collaborations, connects you with these artists. 1:33:32.360 --> 1:33:35.200 There were many moments, and I'll tell you as as 1:33:35.240 --> 1:33:37.200 many as you want to hear. But I mean started 1:33:37.240 --> 1:33:43.439 when I was ten years old, and I DJed every 1:33:43.640 --> 1:33:47.280 single possible opportunity. I had to be in front of people. 1:33:48.160 --> 1:33:52.000 I never enjoy DJing in my bedroom. I was never 1:33:52.240 --> 1:33:55.320 a real scratch master. I was never that guy. I 1:33:55.479 --> 1:33:58.720 was never a competition style titles. I was never a 1:33:58.800 --> 1:33:59.479 turntable list. 1:33:59.520 --> 1:34:00.360 I was a part DJ. 1:34:01.800 --> 1:34:03.479 So there's only so much you can do in your room. 1:34:03.880 --> 1:34:06.200 Can't practice routines. You need to be in front of. 1:34:06.240 --> 1:34:08.400 People because you feet off the crowd. 1:34:08.520 --> 1:34:08.720 Yeah. 1:34:09.040 --> 1:34:14.360 So I would DJ every Rinky Dink school carnival. 1:34:14.479 --> 1:34:16.040 The first two guests who drink the monster. 1:34:16.680 --> 1:34:17.679 Yea, really. 1:34:23.880 --> 1:34:25.439 We appreciate Yeah, we appreciate that. 1:34:28.280 --> 1:34:34.320 Yeah, so we just raised the value, but guests usually 1:34:34.479 --> 1:34:34.680 just go. 1:34:34.640 --> 1:34:35.360 Straight with the drinks. 1:34:36.439 --> 1:34:38.479 I re appreciate y'all, but ahead can't continue. 1:34:38.760 --> 1:34:44.680 So I DJed every possible thing I could, and I 1:34:44.760 --> 1:34:49.679 brought my milk rates of records and my turntables to school, 1:34:50.400 --> 1:34:53.920 and although it sounds silly, it gave me my first 1:34:56.720 --> 1:35:00.559 experiences in front of anyone. Now I didn't value these 1:35:00.680 --> 1:35:04.360 kids musical opinion. In fact, I kind of had disdain 1:35:04.520 --> 1:35:08.240 for it. I wanted to be in real life. But 1:35:09.320 --> 1:35:12.600 as a sixth grade, seventh grade, eighth grade kid, and 1:35:12.720 --> 1:35:17.320 then into high school, it was a beginning school homecoming parties, 1:35:17.320 --> 1:35:22.840 school dances, school proms, and then in this era of 1:35:22.960 --> 1:35:25.680 New York, there were a lot of underage nightclubs that 1:35:25.760 --> 1:35:27.560 were just out in the open, and I don't know, 1:35:27.640 --> 1:35:30.360 I don't know how this existed, but there were full 1:35:30.400 --> 1:35:31.920 on nightclubs that high school kids. 1:35:31.760 --> 1:35:33.759 Went to and everyone knew it and there was no party. 1:35:36.280 --> 1:35:36.479 Yeah. 1:35:37.520 --> 1:35:40.560 So I started djaying some of these parties, and that 1:35:40.680 --> 1:35:43.320 was kind of chapter two because I was out there. 1:35:44.760 --> 1:35:47.519 And then one thing led to another, and I met 1:35:47.600 --> 1:35:50.800 some party promoters who at the time I thought and 1:35:50.960 --> 1:35:57.720 were real deal party promoters in actual New York City nightclubs, 1:35:58.760 --> 1:36:00.880 and I went from doing these kind of high school 1:36:01.000 --> 1:36:06.320 underage parties to actual New York hotspots to some degree. 1:36:07.760 --> 1:36:11.200 No no, no, by this I'm now seventeen, eighteen nineteen. 1:36:12.640 --> 1:36:15.599 That would have been crazy if he was sad. Yeah, well, 1:36:16.320 --> 1:36:18.400 I had to learn how to use the turntable first, 1:36:22.439 --> 1:36:26.280 and those clubs were really the first exposure to real. 1:36:27.560 --> 1:36:27.880 People. 1:36:30.880 --> 1:36:33.519 You know, in the nineties, everyone wanted to be an 1:36:33.560 --> 1:36:38.880 intern for a hip hop label, and if I was 1:36:38.960 --> 1:36:40.880 old enough at the time, I would have wanted to 1:36:40.960 --> 1:36:43.680 intern for Steve at Loud Records. That was you know, 1:36:43.760 --> 1:36:46.200 there were a few labels you would have interned at, 1:36:46.400 --> 1:36:49.200 you know as a Dream Loud Records, Deaf Jam Records. 1:36:50.960 --> 1:36:53.760 I remember when he was thirteen years old, he would 1:36:53.760 --> 1:36:55.479 be at the office and would give him. 1:36:55.360 --> 1:36:59.720 Records because you know, back in the day there was 1:36:59.760 --> 1:37:04.040 aviously no Internet and the only way to get the 1:37:04.120 --> 1:37:08.439 newest hot record was to get it from the record label. 1:37:08.640 --> 1:37:10.360 To be in the record pools. Being in the record 1:37:10.600 --> 1:37:11.320 on their list that. 1:37:11.439 --> 1:37:13.960 Was years old, you already had a name in the industry. 1:37:14.200 --> 1:37:16.679 I had no name, but I was meeting everyone I could, 1:37:17.400 --> 1:37:19.120 and when somehow gets a Loud Records. 1:37:19.200 --> 1:37:21.720 You know, the babysitter was dating somebody that worked for me. 1:37:22.439 --> 1:37:25.200 Oh ship, that was So that's what was one in. 1:37:26.080 --> 1:37:26.640 That was one in. 1:37:28.880 --> 1:37:31.240 That was was fucking everything. 1:37:31.840 --> 1:37:39.840 And the babysitter, wait, his baby baby sitter, bab was 1:37:40.040 --> 1:37:45.960 fucking comb who controlled every beautiful woman in New York City. 1:37:47.280 --> 1:37:50.599 And the babysitter was also very good friends with Stretched Armstrong. 1:37:52.960 --> 1:38:03.479 Shut babysitter baby had two babysitters and Diane. I'm sure 1:38:03.479 --> 1:38:05.280 they might hear this. That's why I just shouted them out. 1:38:05.960 --> 1:38:11.599 And and they were friends, were Stretched Armstrong. They were 1:38:11.640 --> 1:38:14.559 friends with someone who worked for lab Rec't. 1:38:15.080 --> 1:38:17.960 So yeah it was. And so that wasn't the moment 1:38:18.040 --> 1:38:18.800 that changed the game. 1:38:18.880 --> 1:38:22.200 But I had my antennas out right, and so what 1:38:22.280 --> 1:38:24.280 I was saying was, you know, you wanted to intern. 1:38:24.400 --> 1:38:27.640 So so one of the places I interned as a 1:38:27.720 --> 1:38:31.960 high schooler was actually not for someone in the music business, 1:38:32.000 --> 1:38:35.040 but in the fashion business. But in this era, djaning 1:38:35.200 --> 1:38:37.760 for this person was as good as djang at a 1:38:37.840 --> 1:38:42.800 record label. Can anyone guess what that might be? Andy 1:38:42.880 --> 1:38:48.960 Hill figure? So I so I interned for Tommy Hill 1:38:49.000 --> 1:38:54.800 Figure's brother Andy now Tommy Hill Figure in the mid 1:38:54.880 --> 1:39:00.599 to late nineties was a revolving door of hip hop artists. 1:39:01.080 --> 1:39:03.880 So being an intern for Andy Hill Figure met you 1:39:04.040 --> 1:39:08.439 folded rugbies and polos for q Tit and for Ray Kwan, 1:39:09.920 --> 1:39:15.040 and for Snoop and and so that was another kind 1:39:15.080 --> 1:39:19.160 of path that led me out into the world. I 1:39:19.160 --> 1:39:22.880 remember Andy Hill Figure took me to Andre Herrel's white 1:39:22.920 --> 1:39:26.559 party at Tavern on the Green in nineteen ninety five. 1:39:26.640 --> 1:39:31.400 I was fourteen, so Andre Herrel became a very dear 1:39:31.520 --> 1:39:37.200 friend and mentor to me. When he passed, I was 1:39:37.280 --> 1:39:42.040 filming past the mic and I always wished he could 1:39:42.040 --> 1:39:44.800 have seen it because so much of what I do 1:39:44.960 --> 1:39:47.920 on the microphone comes from Andre Herrel. But that's I 1:39:48.000 --> 1:39:50.160 want to get to that, because that's a whole important. 1:39:49.800 --> 1:39:50.559 Piece of the puzzle. 1:39:50.600 --> 1:39:56.400 But so the Hill Figures bring me to Tavern on 1:39:56.439 --> 1:40:00.320 the Green in Central Park for Andre Heral's fa aimed 1:40:00.400 --> 1:40:09.639 white party, and I remember watching Kid Capri m tear 1:40:09.760 --> 1:40:12.720 down that party. Now you have to remember I've only 1:40:12.760 --> 1:40:16.160 maybe been to three parties. It wasn't like I had 1:40:16.240 --> 1:40:18.200 been to thirty of these. I know, Kid Capri killed 1:40:18.240 --> 1:40:20.320 that one more than the other twenty nine. I hadn't 1:40:20.320 --> 1:40:20.919 been anywhere. 1:40:21.760 --> 1:40:22.680 I just heard about it. 1:40:23.880 --> 1:40:28.559 So I'm watching Kid Capri, He's a master, the master, 1:40:29.800 --> 1:40:33.920 and I'm watching Andre Herrel MC the party, and I 1:40:33.960 --> 1:40:36.280 can picture myself where I was standing a tavern on 1:40:36.320 --> 1:40:40.479 the green and I looked at Andre and I looked 1:40:40.479 --> 1:40:42.640 at Kid Capri and I said, I want to do that, 1:40:45.600 --> 1:40:47.000 and that became one of my goals. 1:40:48.720 --> 1:40:49.840 God damn, it makes a noise for that. 1:40:52.200 --> 1:40:53.519 So I want to tell you something else. 1:40:53.960 --> 1:41:00.439 So the years, I think two thousand and two, I 1:41:00.560 --> 1:41:04.120 interned for def Jam as well in those years. And 1:41:04.240 --> 1:41:06.960 now I'm just making a name for myself. So I'm 1:41:07.000 --> 1:41:09.560 finally getting the records from the labels without having to 1:41:09.680 --> 1:41:14.879 beg And it's two thousand and two and the hottest 1:41:15.000 --> 1:41:18.200 record in the clubs is a song called nothing Oh 1:41:18.320 --> 1:41:27.840 Goddamn by Noriega. And maybe I went to and excuse 1:41:27.920 --> 1:41:30.280 my voice to damn a little horse, but good, you 1:41:30.320 --> 1:41:31.760 need some more water even no, I'm. 1:41:31.640 --> 1:41:33.400 Good, but that's why I'm drinking a lot. So I 1:41:33.479 --> 1:41:34.160 am a little horse. 1:41:36.920 --> 1:41:41.240 So I hear Flex playing this record, you know, over 1:41:41.320 --> 1:41:44.400 and over and over, and I'm now knee deep in 1:41:44.439 --> 1:41:46.519 the club, so I know this is the hottest record. 1:41:46.600 --> 1:41:49.160 I'm I'm DJing at Cheetah on twenty first Street. 1:41:50.320 --> 1:41:53.320 Twenty first threet of Justice is right down the blot, Yeah, 1:41:53.560 --> 1:41:54.880 across the Yeah. 1:41:55.080 --> 1:41:55.519 How old? 1:41:57.000 --> 1:41:57.720 I was twenty one? 1:41:57.920 --> 1:41:59.439 Okay, So I. 1:41:59.479 --> 1:42:00.439 Don't have to record? 1:42:01.120 --> 1:42:01.559 Oh wow. 1:42:02.960 --> 1:42:05.240 So I go to Fat Beats. They don't have the record. 1:42:05.280 --> 1:42:07.000 I go to Rock and Soul they have a bootleg. 1:42:07.000 --> 1:42:12.960 I don't want a butleg. So I was always like 1:42:13.000 --> 1:42:19.800 a sonic, you know. So I go to def Jam 1:42:21.320 --> 1:42:23.519 and I say, I need two copies of nothing. 1:42:24.240 --> 1:42:25.439 What I tell you. They didn't want to give me 1:42:25.479 --> 1:42:26.000 two copies. 1:42:27.400 --> 1:42:27.880 It was so. 1:42:29.960 --> 1:42:32.760 It was so on fire. It's like the scene and 1:42:32.840 --> 1:42:35.599 Crush Groove when they're printing. It's like that or King 1:42:35.680 --> 1:42:38.320 of Rock in the movie, and they can't keep them 1:42:38.360 --> 1:42:41.000 on the ses. I couldn't get a copy. So they 1:42:41.080 --> 1:42:44.160 finally give me two copies. And I go home and 1:42:44.240 --> 1:42:47.280 I put on the turntable to practice a few things 1:42:47.720 --> 1:42:48.400 and it skips. 1:42:49.840 --> 1:42:52.320 So I take it off and I put on the 1:42:52.400 --> 1:42:54.080 double and it skips. 1:42:56.479 --> 1:42:57.880 I worked the record out here. 1:42:58.160 --> 1:42:59.600 Oh so, don't kill my punchline. 1:43:02.120 --> 1:43:05.280 So I go to def Jam back the next day, 1:43:05.320 --> 1:43:07.439 and I wish I remembered who was doing the streets team. 1:43:09.280 --> 1:43:10.080 Well, he was ahead of it. 1:43:10.200 --> 1:43:12.559 It definitely could have been Rob Love. All right, let's 1:43:12.560 --> 1:43:14.599 make it Rob up. So I go into Rob Love's office. 1:43:15.320 --> 1:43:17.880 It's definitely and I say I need too, And so 1:43:17.960 --> 1:43:20.880 I say I need two more. He says, said, no, 1:43:21.000 --> 1:43:22.960 he just gave you two. You begged for them yesterday. 1:43:23.280 --> 1:43:25.439 I said, they're skipping at an integral part of the song. 1:43:25.800 --> 1:43:28.679 It's not even the third verse, it's like at the beginning. 1:43:31.800 --> 1:43:33.840 So I said, he goes, well, those are your two. 1:43:34.840 --> 1:43:36.439 I said, the whole batch is fucked up. 1:43:36.479 --> 1:43:37.040 I'm telling you. 1:43:38.160 --> 1:43:40.840 He goes, you're crazy to get out of here. So 1:43:42.800 --> 1:43:45.040 I say, you have a turntable here? He says yeah. 1:43:45.360 --> 1:43:49.800 I said, who whose office is the turntable in? So 1:43:49.880 --> 1:43:52.960 whose ever office that was? And we take the vinyl 1:43:53.600 --> 1:43:56.120 and I say to him, take two vinyl from anywhere 1:43:56.200 --> 1:43:59.400 in this stack top middle bottom. I'm like David Blaine 1:43:59.479 --> 1:44:03.760 with the cards. Just pick a vinyl. So he puts 1:44:03.840 --> 1:44:08.040 them on same spot, same spot, same pot. I said, 1:44:08.040 --> 1:44:09.639 I just discovered a flaw in you're pressing. 1:44:11.320 --> 1:44:14.160 I did. 1:44:14.280 --> 1:44:16.240 I did hear it, but I didn't remember it, Like 1:44:16.320 --> 1:44:18.040 how he just described. 1:44:18.800 --> 1:44:20.360 The whole pressing was fucked up. 1:44:22.080 --> 1:44:22.960 But this is what's ill. 1:44:23.040 --> 1:44:25.320 This is how big the record was. People were still 1:44:25.760 --> 1:44:29.679 playing the fucking record. You can't stop a hit record, 1:44:30.400 --> 1:44:31.960 and you can't stop wearing the mouth right. 1:44:32.160 --> 1:44:36.000 So, at the end of the day, and in my 1:44:36.160 --> 1:44:39.680 early days of djaying, when I felt I don't want 1:44:39.720 --> 1:44:41.479 to say when I was getting hot, When I felt 1:44:41.520 --> 1:44:43.400 I was getting hot, I'm not. I'm in no place 1:44:43.439 --> 1:44:45.120 to say I was getting hot. That's for other people 1:44:45.240 --> 1:44:47.439 to say. But when I felt I was getting a 1:44:47.479 --> 1:44:47.920 little hot. 1:44:49.760 --> 1:44:54.880 There were there were four hip hop. 1:44:54.840 --> 1:44:59.639 Records of that era that were the biggest and greatest 1:45:00.280 --> 1:45:06.439 club records ever at that time, and they have also 1:45:06.479 --> 1:45:09.200 had to test the time and remain songs that kids 1:45:09.280 --> 1:45:11.880 in their twenties now it's in every word too, and 1:45:12.040 --> 1:45:17.000 those songs are jay Z, give it to Me, gnoring 1:45:17.120 --> 1:45:22.439 nothing for else, fifty in the club, and lean back. 1:45:24.840 --> 1:45:25.160 Now you. 1:45:27.160 --> 1:45:30.000 There's no way to explain what those songs did if 1:45:30.040 --> 1:45:32.280 you aren't there. You can try some things. 1:45:32.320 --> 1:45:33.240 You just have to feel. 1:45:34.439 --> 1:45:37.400 You can't explain what it was. We could play the 1:45:37.479 --> 1:45:41.280 song four times in a row and it was a 1:45:41.400 --> 1:45:46.320 magical moment in New York. And you know, I always 1:45:46.360 --> 1:45:50.480 tell people there's a lot of things that allow your stars. 1:45:50.200 --> 1:45:53.479 To align in life. It's not just talent, it's not 1:45:53.680 --> 1:45:54.040 just luck. 1:45:54.160 --> 1:45:58.160 There's so many stars that have to align, and one 1:45:58.200 --> 1:46:00.560 of them is being a New Yorker who rose to 1:46:00.680 --> 1:46:02.479 prominence in the era of that music. 1:46:02.880 --> 1:46:03.639 That's luck. 1:46:05.120 --> 1:46:07.439 Because if I was coming of age now in New York, 1:46:07.680 --> 1:46:10.400 I don't think my life would have taken the same 1:46:10.520 --> 1:46:12.080 course because the music is different. 1:46:13.040 --> 1:46:14.200 It's still disposable now. 1:46:14.280 --> 1:46:17.840 It's kind of like, yeah, and hip hop is different. 1:46:17.920 --> 1:46:19.880 DJ culture is different, is different now. 1:46:19.920 --> 1:46:20.920 Yeah, but I was. 1:46:21.600 --> 1:46:23.120 I was coming of age. I don't even want to 1:46:23.160 --> 1:46:26.479 say rise to prominence. I was coming of age in 1:46:26.600 --> 1:46:30.160 an era of New York hip hop that was magical. 1:46:30.800 --> 1:46:31.400 Yeah, and. 1:46:33.479 --> 1:46:38.879 I agree, And it gave me a platform because those parties, 1:46:38.960 --> 1:46:41.879 as you talk about the hot parties, the exclusive parties, 1:46:42.600 --> 1:46:45.320 you can't DJ them if they're not happening, and they 1:46:45.360 --> 1:46:47.920 were happening, and they were happening in my backyard. And 1:46:48.080 --> 1:46:50.280 all the music you played at those parties was being 1:46:50.400 --> 1:46:53.120 recorded in my backyard from people who grew up in 1:46:53.240 --> 1:46:53.679 New York. 1:46:54.640 --> 1:46:55.920 And that's the stars aligning. 1:46:56.080 --> 1:46:57.960 You could have been born anywhere else, so you could 1:46:58.000 --> 1:46:59.800 have you could have been brought up anywhere else. 1:47:00.920 --> 1:47:04.559 Well, I want to stop for a second. I want 1:47:04.600 --> 1:47:06.599 to let you know that our show is about giving 1:47:06.640 --> 1:47:10.000 people their flowers. You know why they alive, you know, 1:47:10.680 --> 1:47:12.200 you know what I mean, why they could smell them. Man, 1:47:12.200 --> 1:47:14.360 we wanted to give y'all both even though. 1:47:25.880 --> 1:47:28.479 Okay, yeah, so before you start, quick time, I'm gonna 1:47:28.479 --> 1:47:29.160 take a quick piss. 1:47:32.320 --> 1:47:34.120 Well I was gonna thank you on air, but I'll wait. 1:47:34.560 --> 1:47:39.920 Yeah, oh ship, look soone me flooded. 1:47:40.120 --> 1:47:45.320 Yeah, because to stop we're sleeping here tonight. 1:47:45.479 --> 1:47:49.360 Yes, I can't. I couldn't believe it though, but we did. 1:47:49.600 --> 1:47:52.240 Didn't make it right there you go, we we. 1:47:54.240 --> 1:47:54.639 We are. 1:47:55.360 --> 1:47:57.640 We almost crashed, by the way. I'm just let you know. 1:47:57.800 --> 1:47:59.640 I don't know what was that. 1:47:59.720 --> 1:48:02.120 That's honey, Did you just take a shot of honey? 1:48:02.800 --> 1:48:09.960 That this was the dangerous on the way to work 1:48:10.120 --> 1:48:12.839 is the most dangerous has ever been. We were swerving. 1:48:13.200 --> 1:48:14.080 We couldn't get here. 1:48:14.680 --> 1:48:19.240 We could uh, but uh, I can't believe you came. 1:48:19.400 --> 1:48:21.960 I kept thinking Steve was gonna call and say everyone's 1:48:22.000 --> 1:48:22.800 not coming or left. 1:48:22.840 --> 1:48:24.839 I mean it was not water. 1:48:24.840 --> 1:48:27.479 Because once, yeah, once I hit Steve and I was 1:48:27.560 --> 1:48:29.280 like you know, and he was like, let's let's let's 1:48:29.320 --> 1:48:29.800 make it happen. 1:48:29.840 --> 1:48:31.920 I was just like, you know what, let's just let's 1:48:32.000 --> 1:48:34.240 just let's just do it. Let's just make it. But 1:48:34.439 --> 1:48:35.160 I'm not gonna lie. 1:48:35.200 --> 1:48:38.320 I regredit on the way here because I was so scared, 1:48:38.400 --> 1:48:40.479 Like like at first it was it was it was like, 1:48:41.000 --> 1:48:42.439 was that the not exciting? 1:48:42.640 --> 1:48:47.240 I didn't want to I want to limits? Yeah, right, I. 1:48:48.920 --> 1:48:52.880 Saw cars on the water and then we got to 1:48:52.960 --> 1:48:53.760 the highway and. 1:48:59.040 --> 1:49:01.600 Yeah, it was not a good idea. It was not 1:49:01.760 --> 1:49:08.160 a good idea. I was scared of. Yeah, that was us, 1:49:08.439 --> 1:49:10.799 so hold on, Yeah, I was scared. 1:49:10.960 --> 1:49:15.600 So look, literally, let me ask, because you said you 1:49:15.680 --> 1:49:17.519 did a whole bunch of past mics, what made you 1:49:17.680 --> 1:49:21.519 pick for your residency right one of us in Vegas? 1:49:22.040 --> 1:49:23.679 What made you pick these artists? 1:49:25.240 --> 1:49:25.680 You know? 1:49:25.760 --> 1:49:27.599 Actually both? You know what I mean? Which whoever want 1:49:27.640 --> 1:49:31.120 to go first? How did you make the decision. 1:49:32.640 --> 1:49:33.160 Before you go? 1:49:33.400 --> 1:49:38.960 Yeah, when it comes to curating music, I feel he's 1:49:39.000 --> 1:49:42.000 probably the best DJ in the world I respect when 1:49:42.200 --> 1:49:44.760 it when it comes to somebody curating the show. 1:49:45.760 --> 1:49:50.000 So he's always going to come with the mural, right, 1:49:50.400 --> 1:49:51.759 And then I'll say you know what, maybe. 1:49:51.640 --> 1:49:55.200 Had this color ad that color. But to me, he's 1:49:55.240 --> 1:49:56.360 one of the best DJs in the RW. 1:49:56.439 --> 1:50:01.439 I'm not going to question his th Sometimes I'll say, 1:50:01.520 --> 1:50:04.880 you're out of your fucking mind on this, but I mean, 1:50:05.080 --> 1:50:07.960 he puts us face, he puts this together, so. 1:50:10.200 --> 1:50:14.880 I'm really time. I'm not going to question his curation. Okay, 1:50:15.000 --> 1:50:18.120 So before you say this, how does this work? Does 1:50:18.640 --> 1:50:21.240 the Vegas registery reach out to you and then you 1:50:21.320 --> 1:50:24.559 say to Steve, Yo, listen, listen, how does this work? 1:50:26.520 --> 1:50:28.320 So first of all, thank you, Steve, because those are 1:50:28.439 --> 1:50:31.479 very very big, very big words to say the greatest 1:50:31.560 --> 1:50:35.040 of anything. And I just want to I want to 1:50:35.040 --> 1:50:37.280 answer your question. But can I take sixty seconds just 1:50:37.360 --> 1:50:40.320 to say that I'm a product of so many people, 1:50:41.200 --> 1:50:45.200 I'm a product of Dougie Fresh. Without watching him over 1:50:45.200 --> 1:50:47.160 the years, I would have no idea how to unite 1:50:47.280 --> 1:50:51.040 artists on stage. He's the godfather of that and in 1:50:51.120 --> 1:50:53.360 many ways has I don't want to say past me 1:50:53.439 --> 1:50:57.559 the torch allowed me to hold the torch, and he's 1:50:57.600 --> 1:51:00.680 another hero that has become a dear friend. And and 1:51:00.800 --> 1:51:03.360 I studied of course Flash HRK and Bambada, but also 1:51:03.479 --> 1:51:07.960 Kid Capri and SNS and Funk Master, Flex Legend, And 1:51:08.520 --> 1:51:10.920 without all of those people I just named, and Andre 1:51:11.040 --> 1:51:13.960 Herrell as a Master of the microphone, there would be 1:51:14.200 --> 1:51:16.720 no DJ Cassidy and certainly no Past the Mic. I mean, 1:51:16.800 --> 1:51:19.880 everything I say on the Mic is all of those 1:51:20.000 --> 1:51:26.040 guys in a blender, right. So there were chapters to 1:51:26.160 --> 1:51:28.120 this journey. You know, I told you the story of 1:51:28.200 --> 1:51:32.880 the first episode. After the first episode, I knew I 1:51:33.000 --> 1:51:36.200 wanted to celebrate my hip hop heroes. And whereas the 1:51:36.280 --> 1:51:39.599 first episode started with earth Wind and Fire, the second 1:51:39.640 --> 1:51:43.599 episode started with Run DMC. And when from Run DMC 1:51:44.360 --> 1:51:47.840 to Elo cool J, you got DMC two Run and yep, 1:51:47.880 --> 1:51:50.599 and they did Sucker mcs together, and then LL did 1:51:50.720 --> 1:51:53.880 Radio and then Chuck d did Rebel without a Pause, 1:51:54.479 --> 1:51:56.920 and then Rock Him did Eric be as President, and 1:51:57.000 --> 1:51:59.240 then Dougie Fresh did the show and Big Daddy Kane 1:51:59.240 --> 1:52:02.400 did Warm it Up. And you know, over twenty five 1:52:02.520 --> 1:52:04.559 artists were on that show, most of which who then 1:52:04.680 --> 1:52:07.080 joined us at my Radio City Past the Mic show 1:52:07.160 --> 1:52:10.360 last summer, which was a full circle moment. But and 1:52:10.400 --> 1:52:13.320 then after volume two, there was a volume three where 1:52:13.360 --> 1:52:15.519 I wanted to pay homage to my R and B 1:52:15.640 --> 1:52:18.160 heroes of the nineties the New Jack Swing era, and 1:52:18.280 --> 1:52:20.360 that show featured Keith, Sweat and Boyce to Men and 1:52:20.400 --> 1:52:23.360 TLC and SWV and all six members of New Edition 1:52:25.439 --> 1:52:28.400 and then in a very long story short, the show 1:52:28.479 --> 1:52:34.120 went from Steve Rifkin to Jesse Collins, renowned television producer 1:52:34.280 --> 1:52:37.719 of every award show known to man, to Connie Orlando 1:52:37.800 --> 1:52:42.559 at BET. Volume one that I did completely on my own, 1:52:43.080 --> 1:52:49.960 premiered in July, Volume two, August, Volume three, October Volume four, 1:52:50.080 --> 1:52:53.160 a television special November twenty nine, five weeks later that 1:52:53.240 --> 1:52:54.799 over two million TVs watched. 1:52:56.160 --> 1:53:00.160 And I don't want to speak free, I'm curious or 1:53:00.160 --> 1:53:00.639 your opinion. 1:53:00.840 --> 1:53:04.760 I could have never, in my wildest imagination thought that 1:53:04.880 --> 1:53:07.519 that would become a full on television special in a 1:53:07.600 --> 1:53:13.240 matter of five weeks, with millions of TVs tuned into 1:53:13.360 --> 1:53:15.519 in on its first airing. 1:53:18.280 --> 1:53:20.400 I told you your life was going to change. So 1:53:21.040 --> 1:53:22.400 at the end of the day, I mean, I knew 1:53:22.439 --> 1:53:27.280 what this was and I knew how he curated. Let 1:53:27.320 --> 1:53:27.920 me ask something. 1:53:30.240 --> 1:53:33.920 The first one that you did was everybody involved in it, 1:53:35.000 --> 1:53:38.320 strictly off of all the relationships you've been like it 1:53:38.439 --> 1:53:41.680 wasn't It wasn't about like you're hiring these people to 1:53:41.800 --> 1:53:42.000 do this. 1:53:42.160 --> 1:53:42.679 It was all. 1:53:42.680 --> 1:53:45.720 Relither people that were in my phone or people those 1:53:45.800 --> 1:53:48.200 people knew and conference in right. 1:53:48.520 --> 1:53:51.080 Right, but really because it's important for people to understand 1:53:51.200 --> 1:53:53.240 like the power of relationships. 1:53:53.360 --> 1:53:54.760 Yeah, so let's go through it. 1:53:54.800 --> 1:53:57.040 If I can remember so Berdein and Philip, I've told 1:53:57.040 --> 1:54:00.519 you that story, Sayita Garrett, who wrote and Man in 1:54:00.560 --> 1:54:03.120 the Mirror from Michael Jackson and saying on I just 1:54:03.240 --> 1:54:04.000 can't stop love. 1:54:04.080 --> 1:54:05.439 Ain't you is a dear friend? 1:54:08.280 --> 1:54:11.880 But Terrees Russian who sings Remind Me, which has been 1:54:11.960 --> 1:54:15.840 sampled and hip hop a thousand times and Forget Me nots, 1:54:15.840 --> 1:54:19.920 which became men in Black. I called her directly, she 1:54:20.080 --> 1:54:22.879 was a friend. Howard Hewett of Shalamar called him directly. 1:54:25.360 --> 1:54:25.720 Who else? 1:54:25.800 --> 1:54:28.240 Ray Parker Junior called him directly. I said, Ray, you 1:54:28.320 --> 1:54:29.960 played on to be Real by Sherylynn right? 1:54:29.960 --> 1:54:30.479 He said yeah. 1:54:30.479 --> 1:54:32.560 I said, do you keep in contact with her? He said, 1:54:32.600 --> 1:54:35.560 of course, now she's on the phone. And the list 1:54:35.640 --> 1:54:40.800 goes on. When I called Big Daddy Kane to take 1:54:40.880 --> 1:54:45.120 part in volume two, I looked at my text. I 1:54:45.200 --> 1:54:47.880 hadn't spoken to Big Daddy Kane in six years. I 1:54:47.920 --> 1:54:50.960 don't call Big Daddy Kane, but I do have his number, 1:54:51.920 --> 1:54:55.520 and I called him in July of twenty twenty, so 1:54:55.680 --> 1:54:58.320 almost four years ago, and he picks up the phone 1:54:58.360 --> 1:55:01.160 and goes, hey, Ca, if you're calling me about that 1:55:01.240 --> 1:55:04.600 past the mic thing I'm in. And those were the 1:55:04.760 --> 1:55:08.480 kind of answers I was getting strictly based on Volume one, 1:55:09.640 --> 1:55:12.840 and so Volume one, two and three were just a snowball. 1:55:14.640 --> 1:55:17.280 And by the time it went from Steve to Jesse 1:55:17.400 --> 1:55:21.440 Collins to Kanye Orlando, it's now a series of bet specials. 1:55:21.520 --> 1:55:24.760 And it went from twenty five thousand people watching on 1:55:24.880 --> 1:55:29.160 YouTube Live to one hundred on YouTube Live to maybe 1:55:29.280 --> 1:55:32.640 quarter a million to literally Nielsen ratings like two point 1:55:32.760 --> 1:55:38.440 one million televisions on the first airing, and long story 1:55:38.520 --> 1:55:44.640 short after seven television specials and ten episodes all together, 1:55:45.840 --> 1:55:48.200 I had passed the mic to two hundred and twenty legends. 1:55:49.640 --> 1:55:52.360 And those two hundred and twenty legends spanned forty years 1:55:52.440 --> 1:55:55.640 of hip hop and R and B, earth Wind and Fire, 1:55:55.720 --> 1:56:01.320 Gladys Knight, Patti LaBelle, Charlie Wilson, Hall and Oates, New Edition, TLC, 1:56:01.600 --> 1:56:11.400 S w V, and Vogue, He sweat Teddy Reiley and 1:56:11.520 --> 1:56:15.879 that was just the first three, and then Missy Elliott, 1:56:16.800 --> 1:56:21.200 Y Cleve, Jean, Buster Rhymes, Wu Tang Clan, Ice Cube, 1:56:21.400 --> 1:56:26.640 Sean Paul, Shaggy, super Cat, Maxy Priest. I mean, we 1:56:26.800 --> 1:56:29.800 did a whole we do anything you guys, super Cat 1:56:30.040 --> 1:56:32.280 so and we did, and we did a whole episode 1:56:32.320 --> 1:56:37.680 of reggae music. And I want to thank this amazing woman, 1:56:37.800 --> 1:56:43.440 Sharon Burke. Sharon Burke is kind of like the mayor 1:56:44.400 --> 1:56:49.280 of reggae music. And I met Sharon because she helped 1:56:49.280 --> 1:56:52.600 me get Shaggy. No, I'm sorry, she helped me get 1:56:55.000 --> 1:56:58.280 show me get Beanie Man on a previous episode, and 1:56:58.400 --> 1:56:59.840 we hit it off and I called and I said, 1:57:00.600 --> 1:57:02.240 I told b Et, I want to do the next 1:57:02.280 --> 1:57:03.360 episode all reggae. 1:57:04.000 --> 1:57:05.480 I said, will you co produce it with me? 1:57:06.080 --> 1:57:07.400 And she did and we. 1:57:07.520 --> 1:57:13.960 Produced this episode that featured Shaka de mis Imploied Terror, 1:57:14.080 --> 1:57:18.400 Fabulous sister Nancy doing bumb Bomb. And you know, her 1:57:18.520 --> 1:57:21.560 story is incredible. She deserves her flowers because that song 1:57:21.640 --> 1:57:22.280 has been used. 1:57:22.840 --> 1:57:24.520 I think she got a documentary right now. They've got 1:57:24.520 --> 1:57:25.760 a documentary about it right now. 1:57:25.800 --> 1:57:27.720 Right So it all just came full circle. 1:57:28.360 --> 1:57:30.680 She never made a sense from this track or the 1:57:30.760 --> 1:57:34.560 top line or the song for years, and so she 1:57:34.800 --> 1:57:39.080 was on the show. And so Sharon calls me and says, 1:57:39.120 --> 1:57:42.040 you have to come to Kingston for the premiere. So 1:57:43.320 --> 1:57:46.080 I'm used to watching the show in my living room 1:57:46.120 --> 1:57:49.160 with a couple of friends. I never did anything, She says, 1:57:49.200 --> 1:57:52.120 you know, just after COVID we're just flying again. She 1:57:52.160 --> 1:57:55.360 said you have to come to Kingston. And so I've 1:57:55.400 --> 1:57:59.800 never been to Jamaica, let alone Kingston. And so Sharon 1:58:00.320 --> 1:58:04.760 throws this event for me and all the artists who 1:58:04.800 --> 1:58:06.760 were on the show, the mass majority of live in Kingston, 1:58:06.880 --> 1:58:07.520 so they all came. 1:58:07.640 --> 1:58:10.000 Junior Reid who did want Blood on the show. 1:58:11.520 --> 1:58:17.040 And words can't really explain what I felt on that trip, 1:58:17.560 --> 1:58:20.320 you know, for me past the mic was and in 1:58:20.440 --> 1:58:23.840 some sense it still feels like my living room show, 1:58:24.680 --> 1:58:27.120 in which I'm surprised if anyone who I don't know 1:58:27.320 --> 1:58:31.080 has ever heard of it. So when I walk into 1:58:31.160 --> 1:58:34.320 Kingston and everyone knows that the show's happened, it hasn't 1:58:34.320 --> 1:58:37.000 even aired yet, and everyone knows it's airing, and there's 1:58:37.000 --> 1:58:40.120 a whole show dedicated to reggae. It was really it 1:58:40.200 --> 1:58:42.720 was quite a feeling, and honestly, in many senses, I 1:58:42.840 --> 1:58:45.520 have favorite episodes for different reasons, but that's my favorite 1:58:45.520 --> 1:58:49.040 episode because I think we stepped out of the comfort 1:58:49.080 --> 1:58:50.800 of hip hop and arm beat to some respect. But 1:58:51.200 --> 1:58:53.360 as a kid, dance hall music was hip hop. Yea, 1:58:54.200 --> 1:58:56.800 you know, I learned dance hall music through funk Master Flex. 1:58:56.880 --> 1:59:01.040 That was my in to knowing Super Cat Records. I 1:59:01.200 --> 1:59:03.040 learned it through hip hop, just like I learned soul 1:59:03.160 --> 1:59:09.640 music from hip hop. So after ten episodes, two hundred 1:59:09.680 --> 1:59:15.400 and twenty icon spanning forty years, and then Steve gets 1:59:15.400 --> 1:59:19.080 an email from the Black Promoter's Collective, who's an independent 1:59:19.200 --> 1:59:22.480 concert promoter who was very hot that year with the 1:59:22.560 --> 1:59:25.760 New Edition tour and the Mary Tour and the Maxwell Tour, 1:59:26.160 --> 1:59:28.080 and they said, have you thought about taking the show 1:59:28.160 --> 1:59:32.040 on the road, And of course we had, but they 1:59:32.080 --> 1:59:38.520 saw the vision. And over the past year we've been 1:59:38.560 --> 1:59:42.120 putting on past the Mic live concerts across the country 1:59:43.400 --> 1:59:46.200 and I've been walking out in front of arenas. 1:59:47.800 --> 1:59:50.440 That are sold out with ten to fifteen thousand people. 1:59:51.240 --> 1:59:54.920 And there's no feeling like this because at the end 1:59:54.920 --> 1:59:58.440 of the day, this whole thing started with this little 1:59:58.520 --> 2:00:02.480 idea of calling artists and convincing them to do this 2:00:02.640 --> 2:00:06.920 crazy concept to bring celebration to people at a crazy time, 2:00:07.480 --> 2:00:11.040 and it turned into a celebration of the soundtrack of 2:00:11.120 --> 2:00:14.400 our lives. It turned into a celebration of our favorite 2:00:14.440 --> 2:00:17.560 songs and our favorite artists, a celebration of our heroes. 2:00:18.720 --> 2:00:22.480 And so I have this incredible. 2:00:24.600 --> 2:00:26.880 Over the past year, I've had this incredible opportunity every 2:00:26.960 --> 2:00:31.560 month to walk on stage and experience that celebration in 2:00:31.600 --> 2:00:34.280 front of ten to fifteen thousand people with my heroes 2:00:34.320 --> 2:00:37.840 on stage, and every one of those shows has been 2:00:37.880 --> 2:00:41.800 a unique show. The show in North Carolina was different 2:00:41.840 --> 2:00:43.560 than the show in New Jersey. It was different from 2:00:43.600 --> 2:00:45.720 the show at Radio City. So every show is like 2:00:45.800 --> 2:00:51.240 a special event curated specifically for that time and place. 2:00:52.280 --> 2:00:56.160 And the show at Radio City was the greatest night 2:00:56.240 --> 2:01:04.560 of my life. Sugarhill Gang, Curtis, Blow, Cool Mo, D, Busy, 2:01:04.640 --> 2:01:08.480 b krs one mc shan. But listen to what I 2:01:08.600 --> 2:01:11.800 just said though on one stage, Cool Mo, D, Busy, 2:01:11.920 --> 2:01:21.600 B mc shan, krs one, Infamous Beefs, and Naughty My 2:01:21.720 --> 2:01:25.120 Nature and Rock came in, Big Daddy Kane and Karras 2:01:25.160 --> 2:01:27.680 one and Dougie Fresh and Slick Rick and Lords of 2:01:27.680 --> 2:01:30.960 the Underground and the Fushnickens and EPMD and. 2:01:34.080 --> 2:01:37.360 I will never forget every minute of that night. I don't. 2:01:37.360 --> 2:01:39.040 I don't think it can be topped. It's it's my 2:01:39.240 --> 2:01:39.960 thriller now. 2:01:40.120 --> 2:01:42.640 It's like in its own I just I can't touch 2:01:42.760 --> 2:01:44.840 that in my own in my own heart and soul. 2:01:46.200 --> 2:01:48.640 It was everything that I ever dreamt of. And I 2:01:48.840 --> 2:01:51.560 felt I don't feel it often, but I felt that 2:01:51.760 --> 2:01:55.520 night that I had made some contribution, that I did 2:01:56.360 --> 2:02:00.000 something for the music and the culture that gave me life, 2:02:00.000 --> 2:02:06.000 life and identity. And you know, I remember some artists 2:02:06.000 --> 2:02:08.800 saying that night that they had never been to Radio City. 2:02:10.640 --> 2:02:13.000 And I got a call from Roxanne Chante the next 2:02:13.040 --> 2:02:18.560 morning telling me just that, and so it's it's it's 2:02:18.600 --> 2:02:20.400 you know, we talked about a lot of memories early on. 2:02:20.520 --> 2:02:21.960 I think in one of the stories I said at 2:02:21.960 --> 2:02:24.000 that time, that was the greatest night. This was the 2:02:24.080 --> 2:02:28.160 greatest night of my life. So all this led to Vegas. 2:02:28.640 --> 2:02:31.600 And and you know you asked about the artist and 2:02:32.680 --> 2:02:36.240 how did you pick those artist? It's always been I 2:02:36.360 --> 2:02:38.680 just want to say about the artists, right, I'm really 2:02:38.920 --> 2:02:43.200 just the messenger. I'm just really I have the fortunate 2:02:44.160 --> 2:02:51.360 position of being a bridge, right and if I'm nothing 2:02:51.440 --> 2:02:54.240 else in my life but that bridge, I'm happy with that. 2:02:55.800 --> 2:02:58.320 And I really feel. 2:03:01.960 --> 2:03:05.480 Again, sorry for this voice, but I really feel that 2:03:08.440 --> 2:03:10.720 this is going to sound very poetic. But I feel 2:03:10.800 --> 2:03:13.080 in all episodes and shows that passed the mic, the 2:03:13.240 --> 2:03:19.240 artists have chosen themselves. I think it It was always 2:03:19.360 --> 2:03:26.560 just clear, you know when when when Steven live Nation 2:03:26.920 --> 2:03:33.520 first started talking about Vegas, I was immediately inspired by 2:03:33.960 --> 2:03:38.320 the shows that we think of as the iconic Vegas shows. 2:03:38.960 --> 2:03:42.720 The rat Pack, That's what I said earlier. Yeah, I 2:03:42.760 --> 2:03:44.480 said that we were talking about that earlier. 2:03:46.000 --> 2:03:51.000 Elvis Presley, Liberaci. Steve always calls me Liberaci, so. 2:03:51.680 --> 2:03:52.360 He definitely did. 2:03:54.320 --> 2:03:55.920 So I can't wait to hear what was said before 2:03:55.920 --> 2:03:56.280 I got here. 2:04:01.200 --> 2:04:06.760 So, the rat Pack, Elvis, Presley, Liberachi, Wayne Newton. 2:04:07.440 --> 2:04:09.120 And these are the first people with residencies. 2:04:10.480 --> 2:04:12.640 They were the first ones to have a long term, 2:04:13.000 --> 2:04:14.760 the most definitive residencies. 2:04:14.800 --> 2:04:15.920 There were people in between. 2:04:16.920 --> 2:04:18.280 H I'm sorry for cutting it. 2:04:18.600 --> 2:04:19.280 I did forget. 2:04:20.120 --> 2:04:23.680 My father did bring Elvis to Vegas. He brought him 2:04:23.720 --> 2:04:25.560 to Elvis. He brought Elvis to Vegas. 2:04:25.760 --> 2:04:28.080 Yeah, the International Hotel, and he's told me that before. 2:04:28.360 --> 2:04:28.680 Wow. 2:04:29.040 --> 2:04:34.320 So so that's that's the DNA of this conception. And 2:04:34.440 --> 2:04:38.320 when this started, I didn't know that. As the esthetic 2:04:38.400 --> 2:04:41.120 and vibe started to form, he told me that. So 2:04:42.760 --> 2:04:47.640 I've always been fascinated with old world Las Vegas, with 2:04:47.800 --> 2:04:53.560 Freemont Street, the old hotels, the gangster stories, the neon signed, 2:04:53.680 --> 2:04:55.520 the lights, the glamour. 2:04:55.360 --> 2:04:57.520 The black and white of it all, the mob exactly 2:04:57.760 --> 2:04:58.440 black and white of it. 2:04:58.680 --> 2:04:58.840 Yeah. 2:04:58.880 --> 2:05:01.400 Yeah, the black and white of it all, even though 2:05:01.480 --> 2:05:07.280 it was actually very bright, very bright. So I thought 2:05:07.320 --> 2:05:09.960 about the rat Pack, and I thought about. 2:05:11.320 --> 2:05:16.240 Who are they? Were they unknowns? Now they were five stars? 2:05:19.120 --> 2:05:21.160 Is that we saw a flyer? When you see the 2:05:21.240 --> 2:05:23.320 basket of min it's like almost like the rat Pack. 2:05:23.360 --> 2:05:25.400 I didn't even I didn't even think of that exactly. 2:05:25.520 --> 2:05:31.200 So the rat Pack is five stars Frank Sinatra, Sammy 2:05:31.280 --> 2:05:35.600 Davis Junior, Dean Martin, Joey Bishop, and Peter Lawford. 2:05:39.880 --> 2:05:40.080 Yeah. 2:05:40.120 --> 2:05:44.120 So these guys were singers, actors, comedians. They didn't need 2:05:44.600 --> 2:05:46.320 each other. They were stars. 2:05:47.440 --> 2:05:48.040 But what did they do? 2:05:49.200 --> 2:05:54.960 They came together and formed an ensemble that the world 2:05:55.080 --> 2:05:59.400 had never seen. That you could only see in one. 2:05:59.280 --> 2:06:01.280 Place, and that place was Las Vegas. 2:06:02.240 --> 2:06:05.640 And remember how we started, And I said, if an 2:06:05.680 --> 2:06:08.120 alien came from outer space and said, what is hip hop? 2:06:08.800 --> 2:06:10.960 I would show him a picture run the MCGM massage 2:06:11.000 --> 2:06:15.640 and playing this is the Sucker. If an alien came 2:06:15.680 --> 2:06:18.080 from out of space and said what is Las Vegas? 2:06:18.120 --> 2:06:24.000 I would show them rap back. So I thought there 2:06:24.120 --> 2:06:30.000 was an opportunity to create something groundbreaking and something trailblazing. 2:06:30.880 --> 2:06:35.440 There is very little hip hop in the concerts space 2:06:35.560 --> 2:06:38.720 in Las Vegas. There is almost no hip hop in 2:06:38.800 --> 2:06:44.200 the residency space. Yeah, and they have new September and 2:06:44.240 --> 2:06:48.800 that's brand new so and drink chams were coming soon. 2:06:49.480 --> 2:06:51.360 Yeah, there you go, we need you. 2:06:51.440 --> 2:06:56.560 In July, Usha and Ussher and Ushia even though marriage 2:06:56.600 --> 2:07:00.160 considered a hip hop overall, they don't polyse. 2:07:00.440 --> 2:07:02.640 Because Usher and There's been a bunch of R and 2:07:02.720 --> 2:07:07.520 B for sure, okay, but virtually, with maybe one or 2:07:07.560 --> 2:07:11.560 two exceptions, there's been no hip hop in the residency space, 2:07:11.800 --> 2:07:16.160 very little in the concert space. And certainly DJs have 2:07:16.280 --> 2:07:20.120 always existed in Vegas in the world of nightlife, but 2:07:20.280 --> 2:07:24.200 not in the world of concerts. So I saw a 2:07:24.280 --> 2:07:28.560 tremendous opportunity to take inspiration from those that made Vegas 2:07:28.640 --> 2:07:31.840 what it is and to redefine it through a hip 2:07:31.880 --> 2:07:35.640 hop lens, through a New York lens largely, and to 2:07:35.760 --> 2:07:41.040 create an ensemble cast of five artists that all have 2:07:41.240 --> 2:07:44.960 their global careers, that don't need to come together, but 2:07:45.200 --> 2:07:48.120 choose to come together to create a once in a 2:07:48.240 --> 2:07:52.080 lifetime experience that you can only see in Vegas and 2:07:52.480 --> 2:07:56.440 all roads led to Job Rule, Fat Joe Slick Rick, 2:07:56.520 --> 2:07:59.280 and Dougie Fresh and myself as the core five. 2:08:00.040 --> 2:08:09.960 Our Rule has coined us the rap pack Mmm looks 2:08:11.440 --> 2:08:15.320 and you know, every night, so it's every night this goes. 2:08:15.400 --> 2:08:16.760 So it's it's, it's. 2:08:16.760 --> 2:08:20.680 It's because it's just as long as there's every week 2:08:20.760 --> 2:08:21.120 every night. 2:08:21.840 --> 2:08:26.600 This is every weekend for the month of July, every weekend. 2:08:26.360 --> 2:08:31.400 Yes, Friday Saturday. So on night one. 2:08:32.720 --> 2:08:35.360 We have Ray Kwan and ghost Face as our special 2:08:35.440 --> 2:08:39.760 guests every night one, No just on night one of 2:08:39.880 --> 2:08:43.720 the residency, every first night of the weekend. On on 2:08:43.960 --> 2:08:48.400 night two of the Residency, we have Public Enemy joining 2:08:48.480 --> 2:08:49.120 us on stage. 2:08:49.160 --> 2:08:51.680 Now, I just want to talk about this for a second. 2:08:51.840 --> 2:08:54.120 Public Enemy, first of all, has only performed once in 2:08:54.240 --> 2:08:59.160 America in seven years wow, meaning seven years ago right right. 2:09:03.440 --> 2:09:06.160 Out of all the people involved in the residency, for 2:09:06.320 --> 2:09:12.320 some reason, Chuck has been the person who has hosted 2:09:12.640 --> 2:09:13.839 the ad for the show. 2:09:13.760 --> 2:09:17.080 More than anyone. I cannot tell you what that means. 2:09:18.400 --> 2:09:24.120 There's really no words to explain how I feel when 2:09:24.200 --> 2:09:28.720 I see Past the Mic live on Chuck the Instagram 2:09:29.880 --> 2:09:33.760 the Ultimate Truth like capital t r U t H, 2:09:34.280 --> 2:09:39.920 there's no more truth. Night three and four we are 2:09:40.000 --> 2:09:47.800 welcoming a global icon a Steve Rifkin label mates and 2:09:48.080 --> 2:09:55.160 Discovery Akon and Night five we are welcoming Jermaine dupri 2:09:55.440 --> 2:09:58.360 and De Brat together doing something. 2:09:58.280 --> 2:10:00.640 Very special that we're Carl curated. 2:10:02.200 --> 2:10:04.920 And Night six we're welcoming too Short and War and 2:10:05.000 --> 2:10:08.320 g and it's going to be very special night. Obviously 2:10:08.480 --> 2:10:10.920 Vegas is in the West Coast, so that's going to 2:10:10.960 --> 2:10:12.280 be a particularly. 2:10:12.360 --> 2:10:14.840 And just to be clear for the people watching listening, 2:10:15.040 --> 2:10:18.520 when you say welcoming to the addition to fact, Joe. 2:10:21.920 --> 2:10:23.440 In addition, right, and the. 2:10:23.480 --> 2:10:25.680 Great thing about the month of Live for this year 2:10:25.800 --> 2:10:31.000 is you have the NBA Summer League in Vegas, but 2:10:31.120 --> 2:10:36.040 you also have the Olympic team practicing. Oh so pretty 2:10:36.120 --> 2:10:38.840 much eighty five percent of the NBA. It's going to 2:10:38.880 --> 2:10:42.080 be in Vegas, So this will literally be the number 2:10:42.120 --> 2:10:44.240 one residency for the month of Joe. 2:10:44.440 --> 2:10:47.839 The hotels is that Seasons Seasons, okay, plan in Hollywood, 2:10:48.160 --> 2:10:54.040 owned by Caesars so and and when this all started, 2:10:54.080 --> 2:10:57.080 Steve was very adamant about July. You know, I'm not 2:10:57.120 --> 2:10:59.640 a sports guy. As I've said several times, Steve is 2:11:00.400 --> 2:11:02.880 and so Steve goes No, I go to Vegas every July. 2:11:03.120 --> 2:11:06.320 It's you can feel the energy, the culture. We have 2:11:06.440 --> 2:11:07.080 to do it in July. 2:11:07.160 --> 2:11:07.800 And he was right. 2:11:08.800 --> 2:11:12.360 And you know, Jaw and Joe and Rick and Doug 2:11:12.440 --> 2:11:19.040 and myself are designing inexperience like you've never seen before. 2:11:19.560 --> 2:11:21.560 If you've been to a past to my concert over 2:11:21.640 --> 2:11:26.360 the past year, you've seen a three hour continuous show 2:11:27.200 --> 2:11:31.520 with no intermission and no breaks and no moments of 2:11:31.640 --> 2:11:37.520 silence and no opening acts and no headliners. It's straight 2:11:37.640 --> 2:11:41.120 one hundred miles per hour from eight pm to eleven pm. 2:11:42.000 --> 2:11:45.360 But in Vegas, we're taking that and multiplying it times ten. 2:11:45.960 --> 2:11:46.640 So what does that mean? 2:11:47.880 --> 2:11:51.240 We are creating a show that is more interweaved and 2:11:51.400 --> 2:11:53.080 collaborative than ever before. 2:11:54.480 --> 2:11:56.320 If I didn't believe in this, I was supposed to 2:11:56.400 --> 2:12:02.360 do Allow thirty on July fifth, and knowing what he does, 2:12:03.480 --> 2:12:07.160 I said, Cassidy, I'm gonna shut my show down. And 2:12:07.240 --> 2:12:09.480 I was doing the big theater T Mobile which hold 2:12:09.520 --> 2:12:13.640 twenty two thousand people, and I had WU three six, 2:12:13.760 --> 2:12:18.520 I had everybody, and I debit it for this. That's 2:12:18.560 --> 2:12:23.160 how much I believed in this. Because even though it's 2:12:23.400 --> 2:12:26.520 a month, this is going to be you know when 2:12:26.560 --> 2:12:29.080 he mentioned Wayne Newton or you know, this is going 2:12:29.160 --> 2:12:32.280 to be, this is gonna last. Because what they're doing 2:12:32.440 --> 2:12:35.080 is it's an experience. It's just not a typical hip 2:12:35.120 --> 2:12:37.200 hop show. This is really going to be a real 2:12:37.360 --> 2:12:40.720 fucking experience and take it to a whole different place. 2:12:43.520 --> 2:12:46.360 I respect that. I think I'm giving you a contact. Huh, 2:12:47.200 --> 2:12:51.440 he's not. I keep looking. I'm like he said, Aye, man, I. 2:12:51.840 --> 2:12:57.320 Was losing my voice before I got it. I was 2:12:57.400 --> 2:12:59.400 losing the voice already, but now it's taken to a 2:12:59.400 --> 2:12:59.920 different level. 2:13:00.040 --> 2:13:02.920 You want to explain him the rules with quick Thomas Live. 2:13:04.360 --> 2:13:07.320 Oh yeah, actually just hitting me back, and I was 2:13:07.360 --> 2:13:10.480 just time you got you play quick time already with us. 2:13:10.560 --> 2:13:12.880 Once you're you're new to quick time. So this is 2:13:12.920 --> 2:13:15.760 what we canna give you two, two different. 2:13:17.120 --> 2:13:19.440 I lost my choices. Choices. 2:13:19.880 --> 2:13:23.200 You get to pick one, and we don't drink. If 2:13:23.240 --> 2:13:26.080 you say both are neither. We all drink, but you're not. 2:13:26.280 --> 2:13:28.440 You guys aren't drinking. So you get to pick. 2:13:28.640 --> 2:13:38.640 He could be your designated drinker. This I got some drinking. 2:13:39.560 --> 2:13:40.480 Shout to us to drink. 2:13:41.960 --> 2:13:50.120 Yeah, right here they drink, right, Yeah, you're my drinker. 2:13:51.040 --> 2:13:52.240 You drink. Who's drinking? 2:13:52.920 --> 2:13:53.520 You're my driver? 2:13:53.640 --> 2:13:54.160 Hey, come. 2:13:57.120 --> 2:13:59.600 He's not going to be I can bring it. 2:14:00.040 --> 2:14:03.800 He drinks, right, Come on, you're my teammate. 2:14:04.720 --> 2:14:05.320 You gotta drink. 2:14:06.640 --> 2:14:08.160 You got one hair? 2:14:09.000 --> 2:14:11.800 You got I got with the hoodie? What you want? 2:14:11.840 --> 2:14:12.040 You want? 2:14:13.800 --> 2:14:14.640 I can't have the driver. 2:14:15.560 --> 2:14:15.760 Driver. 2:14:16.760 --> 2:14:20.920 I mean, let's go away. I'm funked up right now. 2:14:21.400 --> 2:14:25.280 You got Sonny, Sonny, listen, we. 2:14:25.320 --> 2:14:28.720 Got Yeah, you got the fleet market show. You gotta relax. 2:14:28.800 --> 2:14:30.240 I don't think you're gonna have to drink at all. 2:14:31.280 --> 2:14:33.600 What we call I don't know, because now it's too 2:14:33.640 --> 2:14:39.920 free to contest. If he State sales Champs, the state champs, 2:14:40.520 --> 2:14:42.280 this is yeah. 2:14:42.640 --> 2:14:45.560 Bring up? Come on, who's producing the. 2:14:47.200 --> 2:14:47.480 Hold on? 2:14:47.920 --> 2:14:54.640 Bring up? Bringing back I take the first two. I'm 2:14:54.760 --> 2:14:56.680 give the let's get his drinker up there. 2:14:57.400 --> 2:14:58.680 But where's this drinker? 2:15:05.040 --> 2:15:05.280 Then? 2:15:05.400 --> 2:15:05.800 Happened to me? 2:15:05.920 --> 2:15:07.320 Man, I can't even talk anybody. 2:15:08.280 --> 2:15:12.200 Hey, yeah, let me do the first two. I'm giving 2:15:12.200 --> 2:15:12.840 them both to Steve. 2:15:14.760 --> 2:15:19.960 Let care, I want his man Go ahead, man, you 2:15:20.000 --> 2:15:21.280 can sit next to it. 2:15:21.400 --> 2:15:24.280 Doesn't We got to stay right here for you? 2:15:26.480 --> 2:15:28.440 What what if I just answer everything and no one 2:15:28.520 --> 2:15:29.240 has to drink. 2:15:31.760 --> 2:15:34.680 Both for y'all going bounce back and forth. So because 2:15:35.160 --> 2:15:37.680 you explained of that, if you say both, yeah. 2:15:37.520 --> 2:15:39.080 We're giving you to let me say it because I 2:15:39.120 --> 2:15:40.600 don't know why the fuck I can't even talk. But 2:15:41.080 --> 2:15:41.960 you get two choices. 2:15:42.320 --> 2:15:43.120 You say this or that. 2:15:43.840 --> 2:15:47.040 If you pick one, nobody drinks. If you say both 2:15:47.160 --> 2:15:47.560 or neither. 2:15:48.480 --> 2:15:50.200 Correct, I got it. We all drink. That's it. 2:15:50.560 --> 2:15:51.360 I get it right. 2:15:51.480 --> 2:15:57.040 So I'm gonna start with you, Steve Tupac or d 2:15:57.200 --> 2:16:05.120 m X both, but when they're not drinking. 2:16:07.720 --> 2:16:09.040 Silo Hello, sollo. 2:16:09.000 --> 2:16:11.160 Drinking cheers cheers, cheers. 2:16:11.240 --> 2:16:16.640 Yeah, okay, Also to you against my life this moment, 2:16:16.680 --> 2:16:19.720 wanted this one. Yeah, I think you're gonna I think 2:16:19.720 --> 2:16:21.720 you're gonna let me not, let me not leave the 2:16:21.760 --> 2:16:25.480 witness yeah, don't lead the winnows m O P or 2:16:25.560 --> 2:16:28.120 mob D Come on, no hear? 2:16:28.120 --> 2:16:28.880 I mean, what the fuck? 2:16:31.000 --> 2:16:33.800 It should be sense? And I mean they're both loud. 2:16:33.840 --> 2:16:36.520 I mean, how can I Oh yeah, I'm thinking. 2:16:36.320 --> 2:16:41.040 About people's first Yeah, no, this is not this. There's 2:16:41.040 --> 2:16:44.520 a guy who white questions over there. I wouldn't say both, 2:16:44.560 --> 2:16:45.279 but I'm saying. 2:16:45.120 --> 2:16:46.320 I mean the witness. 2:16:46.360 --> 2:16:51.680 Now I'm gonna you know, I had more records with 2:16:51.879 --> 2:16:55.000 Mob Deep, okay, than I did with m O P. 2:16:55.280 --> 2:17:00.160 So you're saying, but Annie Up might be one of 2:17:00.200 --> 2:17:01.600 my favorite records of all time. 2:17:05.280 --> 2:17:12.520 Christmas cop out Rift, damn you all right, man, let's go, 2:17:12.720 --> 2:17:18.959 all right, let's go Cassidy NOAs or Kiss Jada Kiss. 2:17:18.800 --> 2:17:22.200 To be exactly, m hmm. 2:17:23.440 --> 2:17:26.280 I would like to answer elaborate. 2:17:26.440 --> 2:17:29.119 You can say why your criteria, why you would say 2:17:29.120 --> 2:17:30.160 one or the other or both? 2:17:30.600 --> 2:17:30.920 Nos. 2:17:32.000 --> 2:17:35.240 My my favorite album of all time is Illmatic, and 2:17:35.360 --> 2:17:39.240 it holds a very special place in my heart, and 2:17:39.480 --> 2:17:44.160 so anything that includes NAS might go to NAS because 2:17:44.200 --> 2:17:44.360 of that. 2:17:44.720 --> 2:17:53.800 Okay, that's fair, all right, Steve Pete rock and you 2:17:53.920 --> 2:17:56.920 gotta he did he did it masterfully. So I mean 2:17:57.200 --> 2:17:58.440 I'm not as smart as she is. 2:18:00.120 --> 2:18:03.080 You are you have to be. 2:18:08.080 --> 2:18:11.600 Wow, man, Let's let's just say, oh, they are both louder. 2:18:14.360 --> 2:18:15.760 I mean you can say, bo I ain't mad at 2:18:15.800 --> 2:18:25.800 both goth Steve. Let them give me a real question, 2:18:28.280 --> 2:18:29.920 all right, let me do this one. 2:18:32.360 --> 2:18:32.800 You can do that. 2:18:34.160 --> 2:18:38.680 I'm not talking to anymore. Let's go Wu Tang or 2:18:38.800 --> 2:18:42.720 n w A Wu Tang. Hello fast, I'm from New York. 2:18:43.240 --> 2:18:46.960 You know, it's just it's a good I experienced it. 2:18:47.200 --> 2:18:47.800 I'm not talking. 2:18:48.360 --> 2:18:51.160 It's not music versus music for me, It's just memories 2:18:51.280 --> 2:18:54.480 versus memories. I experienced it in a different way as 2:18:54.520 --> 2:18:57.040 a New Yorker. I experienced n w A in the 2:18:57.120 --> 2:19:00.520 moment more secondhand. So I don't I don't have the 2:19:00.600 --> 2:19:03.480 same kind of memories with that music. Although I love 2:19:03.520 --> 2:19:06.039 it and I know every word, I didn't I didn't 2:19:06.080 --> 2:19:07.400 experience it the same way. 2:19:08.000 --> 2:19:08.200 Yeah. 2:19:08.240 --> 2:19:10.600 I think that's one of my favorite arguments on drinking 2:19:10.680 --> 2:19:13.800 chances with you and Tony yo yo the same. But 2:19:13.920 --> 2:19:16.480 I feel like that he just broke it down, No, bro, 2:19:17.160 --> 2:19:21.320 because that's right, he broke it down. 2:19:21.400 --> 2:19:24.240 When he broke it down, the experience, Yeah, yeah. 2:19:24.200 --> 2:19:26.360 That's what I meant by it, Like I'm not bringing, 2:19:26.400 --> 2:19:30.520 but still no, I still Tony ye Hill completely missco 2:19:30.720 --> 2:19:31.959 screwed the whole thing. 2:19:34.360 --> 2:19:35.840 I told him who it was. 2:19:36.200 --> 2:19:38.840 He did not like it, and an engage in argument. 2:19:39.840 --> 2:19:40.879 I love it beautiful. 2:19:40.920 --> 2:19:43.240 Ye asked you top five rappers of all times? Yeah, 2:19:43.280 --> 2:19:46.040 and I've always been the biggest ice Cube fan. I 2:19:46.120 --> 2:19:48.240 said ice Cream was my in my top five. He 2:19:48.360 --> 2:19:51.560 was my number one, and he didn't like to hantswer 2:19:51.840 --> 2:19:54.800 ice Cube did past the mic. Yeah, ice Cube did 2:19:54.879 --> 2:19:56.400 do past the mike. He was the two hundred and 2:19:56.440 --> 2:19:57.160 twentieth artist. 2:19:57.440 --> 2:20:00.280 God damn big of ice Cube. Wherever you at, needs 2:20:00.320 --> 2:20:03.360 you back on drink chaps. Okay, jay Z a big 2:20:03.440 --> 2:20:03.880 daddy king. 2:20:04.760 --> 2:20:05.680 I'm gonna go with jay Z. 2:20:06.959 --> 2:20:08.080 Look at you answering that. 2:20:09.560 --> 2:20:14.320 I'm going with you, and then I'm coming something even 2:20:14.959 --> 2:20:17.560 on this one. And you can say it at the 2:20:17.600 --> 2:20:22.279 same time. If you want Big Pun or Biggie Smalls. 2:20:22.600 --> 2:20:25.359 M Stee, you go first. I'm going. 2:20:26.760 --> 2:20:28.440 I just have to say he's my heart Pun. 2:20:29.879 --> 2:20:30.600 I'll say Biggie. 2:20:31.400 --> 2:20:32.720 Okay, who do you need to say that? 2:20:33.000 --> 2:20:33.600 Technically you do? 2:20:34.280 --> 2:20:37.240 I mean to say, we're not gonna be Yeah. 2:20:37.360 --> 2:20:38.119 I'm taking a shot. 2:20:39.879 --> 2:20:42.039 I mean, if you seems questions are really fair. I mean, 2:20:42.080 --> 2:20:44.080 you're making between I. 2:20:44.120 --> 2:20:47.200 Think you've got to be on there good. I think no, no, no, Look, 2:20:47.240 --> 2:20:49.520 I mean I obviously I can't for you in your mind, 2:20:49.720 --> 2:20:51.920 you can't. But when we're telling our guests to have 2:20:52.080 --> 2:20:54.400 their criteria, was very close to you. 2:20:54.520 --> 2:20:57.680 So by that, that's why I wouldn't I wouldn't let that. 2:20:57.879 --> 2:21:01.680 I wouldn't let that change my decision. I kind of 2:21:01.720 --> 2:21:04.160 think that they both lived a short career, like they 2:21:04.240 --> 2:21:07.160 both had so much more to go, So I would 2:21:07.240 --> 2:21:08.840 say both, we're not really. 2:21:08.680 --> 2:21:11.080 Talking about careers because remember we're telling the guests it's 2:21:11.120 --> 2:21:12.959 whatever your criteria, that's my. 2:21:21.200 --> 2:21:21.760 I just not. 2:21:23.560 --> 2:21:26.720 But don't we don't we expect Steve to favor those 2:21:26.800 --> 2:21:30.000 artists his careers that he absolutely guided. 2:21:30.360 --> 2:21:33.280 That's why he's been so great guiding those careers. 2:21:33.400 --> 2:21:36.200 Yeah, I think the only hard questions for Steve are 2:21:36.280 --> 2:21:38.600 not a loud artist for someone else's when it's too 2:21:38.720 --> 2:21:39.360 loud artists. 2:21:39.520 --> 2:21:40.960 Yeah, So that's why we're gonna go to this wo 2:21:42.440 --> 2:21:46.240 project Pat Flip. It's just not fair. 2:21:49.400 --> 2:21:50.680 You're killing him project Pat? 2:21:51.360 --> 2:21:52.200 Wow? You big? 2:21:53.480 --> 2:21:57.480 There a reason in there that you big? Yeah, I mean, 2:21:58.720 --> 2:22:01.040 Flip was the last artist. I signed the lad before 2:22:01.240 --> 2:22:05.600 they kicked me out, so I had the record with him, 2:22:05.879 --> 2:22:11.840 but with Project Pat and Hypnotized Minds and three six. 2:22:13.200 --> 2:22:14.800 I don't think you guys realized it. 2:22:14.879 --> 2:22:18.720 Was Project Pat first before Unfield three three six came first. 2:22:19.120 --> 2:22:21.879 And then then you know, you know Pat was Pat 2:22:21.959 --> 2:22:25.800 and Juicy are brothers, right, brothers like that? 2:22:26.000 --> 2:22:29.320 Blood blood brother I'm almost positive blood brothers. 2:22:29.560 --> 2:22:37.960 Wow, Google, you said another? He said, I'm gonna go somewhere. 2:22:38.040 --> 2:22:40.959 They were like, he didn't know, We're gonna google this motherfucker. 2:22:41.480 --> 2:22:46.000 You got technology, you know, but we had you know, 2:22:46.959 --> 2:22:51.119 we had two monster records with Pat and the Chicken 2:22:51.560 --> 2:22:54.480 and then and then he got in trouble and what else? 2:22:54.760 --> 2:22:56.280 And then he got no. Then he got in trouble. 2:22:56.760 --> 2:22:57.800 Yes, right, so. 2:22:59.440 --> 2:23:02.000 Well, wow, I never knew that. 2:23:02.640 --> 2:23:07.959 He said, what I listen, take a shot for no reason. 2:23:08.000 --> 2:23:12.480 I'm taking I'm gonna tak a shot. I don't know why. 2:23:12.480 --> 2:23:14.720 I don't want I'm like, no, no, stas man. 2:23:14.959 --> 2:23:19.160 I just always love to see Project God name Project Past. 2:23:19.240 --> 2:23:23.920 He's telling you where he's coming from, and he definitely don't. 2:23:28.760 --> 2:23:29.400 So what should call you? 2:23:29.520 --> 2:23:30.800 Fleet Market, Sunny. 2:23:33.800 --> 2:23:37.800 State, s Sunday State, sales. 2:23:41.240 --> 2:23:43.240 I'm not taking anything away from clip. 2:23:46.520 --> 2:23:48.480 Artist dude w B T. I mean. 2:23:51.520 --> 2:23:54.279 A few a few years ago, Flip Kane. 2:23:54.080 --> 2:23:57.280 Flippers, we would yeah you know, Flip yeah, yeah, that's 2:23:57.280 --> 2:23:57.640 what we want. 2:23:57.720 --> 2:23:58.440 That's what you want. 2:23:58.520 --> 2:24:01.119 Yeah yeah, Pat can't packed came, three to six came, 2:24:01.360 --> 2:24:02.480 So now Flippers don't know. 2:24:02.879 --> 2:24:05.199 So I'm just saying, I mean, he's. 2:24:05.040 --> 2:24:09.520 A drink Chambala la, Okay, we'll move on. 2:24:10.560 --> 2:24:17.959 You got it from Motana Ross, French Montana, you. 2:24:17.920 --> 2:24:18.920 Don't have bunny style. 2:24:20.320 --> 2:24:21.480 I don't know, maybe it's a cop out. 2:24:21.480 --> 2:24:23.560 I have a personal relationship with him, so I just 2:24:23.760 --> 2:24:26.800 I just connect him in a different way. I love 2:24:26.879 --> 2:24:31.440 Rick Ross, but you know, I've seen French in the studio. 2:24:31.480 --> 2:24:34.760 I kind of been there. I just have different experiences 2:24:34.920 --> 2:24:38.480 for me. You know, these questions aren't just like who's 2:24:38.520 --> 2:24:39.320 a better lyricist. 2:24:40.440 --> 2:24:41.760 We actually respect both people. 2:24:41.800 --> 2:24:44.520 We always mention. Yeah, it's about it's. 2:24:44.440 --> 2:24:49.160 About just having these conversations everything conversation Who you know, 2:24:49.200 --> 2:24:51.280 who do I connect with on some kind of level. 2:24:51.320 --> 2:24:53.360 You know, Nas to me is cheating because that album, 2:24:53.480 --> 2:24:56.320 to me, just is the greatest. So most questions will 2:24:56.360 --> 2:24:58.720 be him. You know, French, I know is a person 2:24:58.879 --> 2:25:01.400 I hung out seen him records. I just feel it 2:25:01.480 --> 2:25:02.119 in a different way. 2:25:02.320 --> 2:25:04.480 You look, you go to the same karate class with some. 2:25:05.959 --> 2:25:11.720 Fresh ones rap Smockfield, I got the next one. Okay, 2:25:11.760 --> 2:25:16.000 go ahead, my bad all right, Steve u g K. 2:25:16.240 --> 2:25:19.640 Out casts. No excuse me, You're getting much harder questions 2:25:19.680 --> 2:25:24.600 than me. I'm gonna say, out casts, okay, any reason why? 2:25:25.520 --> 2:25:29.520 I mean they want album of the Year was a 2:25:29.600 --> 2:25:34.080 double album? Oh yeah, I forgot and you know l 2:25:34.160 --> 2:25:38.600 A and you know Face like brothers to me. So 2:25:39.280 --> 2:25:42.120 I was just closer to them. That's La eating baby Face. 2:25:43.400 --> 2:25:46.039 I like how you like seldomly say like some of. 2:25:46.080 --> 2:25:48.279 The through the executive reason why. 2:25:50.280 --> 2:25:50.560 Artist? 2:26:00.280 --> 2:26:02.400 I'm going to ask y'all both, but I'm gonna start 2:26:02.440 --> 2:26:04.480 with you, so I think I know your answer. 2:26:04.640 --> 2:26:07.240 Ready illmatic or ready to die. 2:26:09.320 --> 2:26:09.840 Ill madic? 2:26:10.360 --> 2:26:11.119 No madic. 2:26:13.200 --> 2:26:15.680 Illmatic too, but ill madic ready to die in reasonable 2:26:15.720 --> 2:26:18.520 doubt is always a fun and difficult conversation because there's like. 2:26:18.600 --> 2:26:19.440 No wrong answer. 2:26:19.959 --> 2:26:21.840 It's I don't think it is no wrong as. 2:26:24.800 --> 2:26:27.760 I said, NOAs, but I mean all all three and 2:26:27.879 --> 2:26:33.359 I threw in a third wait, didn't, didn't, didn't. Kendrick 2:26:33.520 --> 2:26:36.240 just post something about reasonable doubt and allmatic. Yeah. 2:26:36.760 --> 2:26:37.039 I saw. 2:26:37.400 --> 2:26:40.720 I don't know if because he said reasonable talk amongst yourselves. 2:26:40.800 --> 2:26:43.320 Yeah, yeah, he put reasonable doubt over ellmatic. I saw 2:26:43.440 --> 2:26:45.880 something he was like following me. I don't know where 2:26:45.920 --> 2:26:47.440 that came from. I think it was a Twitter post 2:26:47.520 --> 2:26:47.840 or something. 2:26:48.640 --> 2:26:53.320 I think, you know, my Street team, my New York 2:26:53.360 --> 2:26:59.279 Street Team would have fights in the office about reasonable 2:26:59.320 --> 2:27:03.240 doubt and maadic like you know, but in the Arab 2:27:03.360 --> 2:27:06.400 when Buddha was was in this, it was Buddha, Goby 2:27:06.640 --> 2:27:09.720 and oh j I mean it was was it was 2:27:09.920 --> 2:27:14.080 all of them and definitely, I mean they literally would 2:27:14.120 --> 2:27:14.520 go at. 2:27:14.480 --> 2:27:15.000 Each other. 2:27:17.400 --> 2:27:20.200 And you know when reasonable that came up, they did 2:27:20.240 --> 2:27:25.720 that independently. So you really but that wasn't the question though, right, No. 2:27:27.280 --> 2:27:28.600 Great conversation regardless. 2:27:28.680 --> 2:27:31.720 Yeah, reasonable I just feel like it's the third. 2:27:31.920 --> 2:27:34.040 But but but at the end of the day, you know, 2:27:34.840 --> 2:27:37.480 Bigs Jay and Dane they did that ship themselves. 2:27:37.920 --> 2:27:39.840 You know, they didn't have a Sony muscle. They didn't 2:27:39.879 --> 2:27:43.600 have That was what freezing priority originally. Yeah, it was 2:27:43.720 --> 2:27:46.240 freeze and was a priority. 2:27:46.320 --> 2:27:46.520 Yeah. 2:27:48.680 --> 2:27:53.320 It's it's crazy that you think that like three masterpieces 2:27:53.640 --> 2:27:57.880 that really just kind of changed everything. Like I agree, 2:27:58.080 --> 2:28:00.680 all came out in a consolid the amount of time. 2:28:00.680 --> 2:28:03.879 I mean because when the two of them were ninety four, right, 2:28:03.959 --> 2:28:05.840 and when it was ninety six. 2:28:06.120 --> 2:28:08.000 And because reasonable doubt was ninety six. 2:28:08.080 --> 2:28:10.280 Yeah, yeah, so ninety four, ninety four, ninety six. But 2:28:11.200 --> 2:28:14.400 it's just to me crazy when these conversations happened. I 2:28:14.440 --> 2:28:16.720 think all the answers are the right answers because when 2:28:16.760 --> 2:28:19.080 you talk about to these three, there's no wrong It's 2:28:19.160 --> 2:28:22.200 like off the wall and thriller, like, there's no wrong 2:28:22.280 --> 2:28:23.039 answer there me. 2:28:23.120 --> 2:28:25.720 Personally, let me just reiterate kind of what you were 2:28:25.760 --> 2:28:26.360 saying earlier. 2:28:26.680 --> 2:28:30.280 Atmatic changed my life like personally, but so did the others, 2:28:30.320 --> 2:28:32.400 but in a different way. But Ellmatic was the first 2:28:32.440 --> 2:28:36.560 time I identified with rap music when I actually I 2:28:36.720 --> 2:28:39.320 knew where this guy was talking about without me having 2:28:39.400 --> 2:28:41.720 to even be there, Like just listening to that, I 2:28:41.800 --> 2:28:43.720 was like, what the fuck? Like the way he was 2:28:43.800 --> 2:28:46.760 describing certain things, I was just like, go into it. 2:28:46.879 --> 2:28:49.600 Yeah, I was so there. I was so there, Got 2:28:49.640 --> 2:28:50.480 you want to go to the next one. 2:28:54.760 --> 2:28:57.680 I haven't made one person drink, by the way, I 2:28:57.840 --> 2:28:59.760 haven't you drink, but not because of me. 2:29:00.720 --> 2:29:02.600 I haven't said I haven't said both once. 2:29:02.840 --> 2:29:06.800 Hold on, hold on, hold you so, let me ask 2:29:06.879 --> 2:29:10.880 this one. Now, you're gonna make him drink Fat Joe 2:29:11.120 --> 2:29:11.320 or j. 2:29:15.240 --> 2:29:16.440 Yeah, let him drink. 2:29:19.320 --> 2:29:20.720 They're gonna take it versatile. 2:29:21.280 --> 2:29:22.600 You're gonna have to take a shot of that, Honey, 2:29:23.600 --> 2:29:25.959 don't cancel your register, said drink. 2:29:26.640 --> 2:29:29.240 I'm trying to sell tickets, ladies and gentlemen. Drink away. 2:29:32.160 --> 2:29:32.520 Cheers. 2:29:35.400 --> 2:29:38.320 Great answer, because you know they just did verses too, 2:29:38.360 --> 2:29:39.560 you know, remember back then? 2:29:39.920 --> 2:29:41.600 So yeah, and they had together. 2:29:41.720 --> 2:29:43.320 That's you knew you were getting me there. 2:29:43.440 --> 2:29:44.520 Yeah, yeah, yes, yes. 2:29:44.720 --> 2:29:45.800 If you come with Slick. 2:29:45.600 --> 2:29:47.440 Record Zugie Fresh, you're getting the same answer. 2:29:48.280 --> 2:29:48.920 Let's go with that. 2:29:52.280 --> 2:29:55.280 Drink, right, Slick Rick and Zugie Fresh, Let's drink. 2:29:55.640 --> 2:29:56.400 Let's drink. Okay. 2:29:56.640 --> 2:29:58.760 I'm not giving this question to Steve because I feel 2:29:58.800 --> 2:29:59.800 like I know we all go with it. 2:30:00.160 --> 2:30:00.440 Okay. 2:30:00.720 --> 2:30:04.279 Cassidy beating nuts with alcoholics, yes. 2:30:04.240 --> 2:30:12.360 Yes, oh shit, I would say be nuts. Okay, because 2:30:12.440 --> 2:30:13.959 as a DJ, you stay in New York. 2:30:14.040 --> 2:30:16.280 Let's just be honest. You you very New York. 2:30:17.920 --> 2:30:20.480 They had two songs off the Books and Watch Out Now, 2:30:20.560 --> 2:30:24.119 which were big DJ records. They were big club party 2:30:24.200 --> 2:30:27.560 songs be Nuts at two Big Big and they started 2:30:27.560 --> 2:30:30.320 as a very hardcore group. Yeah, and they had some 2:30:30.400 --> 2:30:33.520 big Was that Pun's first published verse? Yeah, yeah, I 2:30:33.560 --> 2:30:36.120 think that's what his big big hit first hit, you know. 2:30:36.200 --> 2:30:39.000 But the great thing about both both groups, you know, 2:30:39.520 --> 2:30:41.600 even though I really talked basketball, I have to go 2:30:41.720 --> 2:30:46.119 baseball here, like the Alcoholics, you know, the number two 2:30:46.200 --> 2:30:50.119 hit it and the number six hitter are so fucking important, yes, right, 2:30:50.520 --> 2:30:53.640 And to me, like I knew what I was going 2:30:53.720 --> 2:30:55.840 to get with both groups. I knew I was going 2:30:55.920 --> 2:30:59.520 to sell three hundred and something thousand records. What was 2:30:59.560 --> 2:31:02.400 your group with the Licks and the beat Nuts. I 2:31:02.440 --> 2:31:03.920 knew they would be just going to get on base 2:31:04.920 --> 2:31:07.280 exactly what they were just going to get on base 2:31:07.400 --> 2:31:09.680 and somebody else was first for you. 2:31:10.160 --> 2:31:11.600 Yeah, I inherited the beat. 2:31:11.680 --> 2:31:13.400 Right and all them. 2:31:14.200 --> 2:31:16.480 But at the end of the day, I knew what 2:31:16.640 --> 2:31:19.480 I had. It was like putting like the Yankees together, right, 2:31:19.720 --> 2:31:23.760 so they lab were they on first? 2:31:23.879 --> 2:31:24.400 Relativity? 2:31:24.480 --> 2:31:25.000 Relativity? 2:31:25.240 --> 2:31:29.279 Relativity beating us relatives? Yeah, that's just saying I inherited 2:31:29.360 --> 2:31:31.000 Joe relative as well. 2:31:31.080 --> 2:31:34.360 Right, Both amazing legendary groups. 2:31:36.000 --> 2:31:40.080 I always thought a baseball roster one do not. 2:31:40.560 --> 2:31:44.240 Yeah, that's I always loved when a hip hop group 2:31:44.360 --> 2:31:48.080 that wasn't known for making party records made one just 2:31:48.240 --> 2:31:52.160 by chance, of course, because it was so natural and yeah, 2:31:52.160 --> 2:31:54.480 it's organic. You got the sense no one was trying 2:31:54.520 --> 2:31:56.320 to make a club record or a party record or 2:31:56.360 --> 2:32:00.280 anything that it crossed over in any way. But those 2:32:00.280 --> 2:32:03.800 two records, it was just like this organic. Well, the 2:32:03.879 --> 2:32:05.600 females were dope producers themselves. 2:32:05.720 --> 2:32:08.760 Yeah, they were exactly. They were one like they were twins. 2:32:08.800 --> 2:32:12.400 One's East coast, one's West coast, you know, as I felt. 2:32:12.240 --> 2:32:17.640 The same way alcoholic No, no, but literally twins, he said. 2:32:17.560 --> 2:32:18.920 One from one place to one. 2:32:19.000 --> 2:32:20.400 But they would have seen it. 2:32:20.800 --> 2:32:22.560 They were just from the East coast, once from the west. 2:32:22.600 --> 2:32:28.720 And the no that they have, yeah, I mean they 2:32:28.959 --> 2:32:29.320 were both. 2:32:29.959 --> 2:32:33.440 They were both contained. But the but the licks on 2:32:33.480 --> 2:32:35.840 the West coast, you mean make room only when I'm dropped. 2:32:35.840 --> 2:32:39.240 The next level were tremendous, tremendous, tremendous club records. 2:32:39.400 --> 2:32:43.760 Yea, and coming from King t Yeah, like that whole 2:32:43.800 --> 2:32:44.720 lineage was crazy. 2:32:45.280 --> 2:32:49.440 Okay, so I'm sending this to you, Cassidy Timberland or 2:32:49.480 --> 2:32:51.279 Swiss Beats, Swiss. 2:32:53.120 --> 2:32:53.280 Going. 2:32:54.760 --> 2:32:56.119 He's not trying to get you all. 2:32:57.280 --> 2:32:59.360 I mean, I'm right, I don't know. We were waiting 2:32:59.400 --> 2:33:00.640 for seventeen hours today. 2:33:02.040 --> 2:33:04.080 By the way, I wanted to announce that to you. 2:33:04.280 --> 2:33:06.720 We they rappers. We have so much of a bad 2:33:07.560 --> 2:33:10.640 name coming late today. We had one of the famous 2:33:10.920 --> 2:33:13.400 DJs in the world and one of the biggest executives 2:33:13.440 --> 2:33:14.600 in the world, and they were both late. 2:33:14.800 --> 2:33:15.920 But it was rappers. 2:33:15.959 --> 2:33:18.400 We all stop this getting for. 2:33:19.200 --> 2:33:21.280 The record for the five feet of water. 2:33:23.040 --> 2:33:26.240 Just take it. Just take it, Cassidy. But we were 2:33:26.280 --> 2:33:27.040 all here though. 2:33:30.040 --> 2:33:31.880 I know that it's very true, and I still don't 2:33:31.920 --> 2:33:37.160 understand how you guys a marine flood with five ft away. 2:33:37.000 --> 2:33:38.879 The sneakers are still fucking spotless. 2:33:39.600 --> 2:33:48.480 Did you see that? That's the difference. We are literally 2:33:48.520 --> 2:33:52.720 in the trenches. The next one, let me see, Barker, 2:33:52.800 --> 2:33:53.520 what is the next one? 2:33:55.320 --> 2:34:01.040 Artifacts of Cela Dwellers because they were online. Yeah, I mean, 2:34:02.480 --> 2:34:05.600 I mean, they're both dope, but I would have said 2:34:05.720 --> 2:34:10.360 advanced the boardwalk funk flex or DJ clue funk flex. 2:34:11.000 --> 2:34:11.440 I like that. 2:34:14.959 --> 2:34:17.360 Let me explain answers, but I haven't explained the past few, 2:34:17.400 --> 2:34:18.800 but record. 2:34:18.600 --> 2:34:20.920 Explain the answers. What flex and clue I will love that. 2:34:21.640 --> 2:34:23.560 What was the last one I wanted to explain? I 2:34:23.600 --> 2:34:26.000 guess it's past the point. Swiss and Tim never mind, 2:34:26.240 --> 2:34:27.360 but I'll explain Flex and. 2:34:27.800 --> 2:34:32.800 Okay, you can explain both. It's okay. We waited for 2:34:32.879 --> 2:34:33.120 you all. 2:34:33.280 --> 2:34:39.160 Yeah, we got seventeen hours. I got three hours. 2:34:41.160 --> 2:34:43.320 He told you one White House story. There's many many 2:34:43.400 --> 2:34:46.880 more to go. One involving the song fight the Power. 2:34:46.959 --> 2:34:51.200 We can come back to that later. So what's that 2:34:51.600 --> 2:34:54.360 Flex and clue? Yeah, so both are friends of mine 2:34:54.400 --> 2:34:56.880 and mentors of mine. Came before me, looked up to both. 2:34:57.400 --> 2:35:01.520 Flex just symbolizes something that is, you know, to me 2:35:01.680 --> 2:35:04.800 growing up, it was like Hulk Hogan and funk Master Flex. 2:35:05.400 --> 2:35:07.039 I always compare Flex to Holk Hogan. 2:35:07.120 --> 2:35:09.560 You know how in the WWF they kept on taking 2:35:09.680 --> 2:35:12.920 the belt away, like they kept trying to take the 2:35:13.000 --> 2:35:16.720 belt away from Hulk, And whoever they made champion couldn't 2:35:16.760 --> 2:35:21.160 be Champion Ultimate Warrior. He just wasn't Hulk. Macho man, 2:35:21.440 --> 2:35:27.320 he just wasn't Hulk Rick Flair, he just wasn't Hulk. Yeah, 2:35:27.400 --> 2:35:33.120 ro limos woo, Yes, no one is funk Master Flex. 2:35:33.800 --> 2:35:36.440 It's why since I was in the sixth grade, I 2:35:36.600 --> 2:35:39.760 still hear the same voice on the radio. How uncanny 2:35:39.920 --> 2:35:42.560 is that? Think of how how hip hop music has 2:35:42.640 --> 2:35:46.800 changed from nineteen ninety three to twenty twenty four, and 2:35:46.920 --> 2:35:49.720 yet the person at the helm of it in New 2:35:49.800 --> 2:35:51.680 York City is the same voice. 2:35:53.000 --> 2:35:54.720 How insane is that? 2:35:55.000 --> 2:35:58.440 And he defies everything that everyone always thinks about hip 2:35:58.440 --> 2:36:02.280 Hop's a young man's game, you know, there's you know, 2:36:02.320 --> 2:36:04.800 there's a revolving door. You know, everything that's everyone said 2:36:04.840 --> 2:36:06.840 over the years. It's not really true in every sense 2:36:06.920 --> 2:36:07.200 at all. 2:36:07.360 --> 2:36:07.560 True. 2:36:07.680 --> 2:36:11.320 It's not but people say it. But isn't he like 2:36:11.760 --> 2:36:15.200 one of the greatest examples of how that's not true. Absolutely, 2:36:15.600 --> 2:36:18.760 And so for me, there's you know, hard to get 2:36:18.760 --> 2:36:20.000 a ticket, hard to get a ticket. 2:36:20.480 --> 2:36:22.560 Yeah, you know what, you know, it's crazy. 2:36:23.959 --> 2:36:27.120 We still went to New York twice, like just you know, 2:36:27.360 --> 2:36:31.279 since you know, we work out here, and I literally 2:36:32.760 --> 2:36:36.080 sometimes can't enjoy my city unless I listen to Flex 2:36:36.240 --> 2:36:39.760 on the radio and I see him tear it down. Absolutely. 2:36:40.240 --> 2:36:42.480 I love if there's a hit record that he's playing 2:36:42.600 --> 2:36:43.480 he tells people. 2:36:43.280 --> 2:36:44.480 To pull over. I love it. 2:36:44.520 --> 2:36:47.440 When he told people go on the cash register, I 2:36:47.480 --> 2:36:49.680 was like, wait a minute, this might be too far. 2:36:50.160 --> 2:36:54.160 But yeah, I love that. That makes me feel like 2:36:54.200 --> 2:36:54.879 I'm back home. 2:36:55.000 --> 2:36:55.600 Yeah, passionate. 2:36:55.879 --> 2:36:58.119 I mean he's home. I love Clue too, don't get 2:36:58.120 --> 2:36:58.520 it too love. 2:36:58.879 --> 2:36:59.640 I love Clue too. 2:36:59.680 --> 2:37:01.800 I love and Clude changed the game in many ways, 2:37:01.840 --> 2:37:06.400 and no one else did. THET albums of course too. 2:37:06.760 --> 2:37:12.240 But you know what you just said is so it's 2:37:12.280 --> 2:37:14.560 so Surreally, he's like the voice of home. 2:37:15.080 --> 2:37:16.000 Like like like when he. 2:37:16.040 --> 2:37:19.640 Says pull over, sometimes I pull over, Like I literally 2:37:19.800 --> 2:37:21.879 listened pull over New York City. 2:37:22.040 --> 2:37:28.360 I'm like he'll say something crazy like. 2:37:30.920 --> 2:37:32.120 Don't rock up your window. 2:37:34.000 --> 2:37:34.840 I listened to it. 2:37:34.959 --> 2:37:40.960 It's like, so I remember, I remember where it was. 2:37:41.120 --> 2:37:46.720 Drake and Meek was battling right, and this was like 2:37:46.959 --> 2:37:49.120 this was like the first King Drink and you know 2:37:49.520 --> 2:37:52.560 Ken Drinck and Drake is now the biggest battle. That 2:37:52.720 --> 2:37:56.720 is the biggest battle ever. But at this point, Meek 2:37:56.840 --> 2:37:59.480 and Drake was the biggest. And I remember Flex saying 2:37:59.680 --> 2:38:03.960 I got this record. I literally missed my flight. I 2:38:04.120 --> 2:38:06.160 was like, I can't get on the this is before 2:38:06.280 --> 2:38:08.320 like I was on a plane. It's like that I 2:38:08.360 --> 2:38:10.640 could I could have still caught my flight. Like an idiot. 2:38:10.640 --> 2:38:12.879 I'm at the airport. I'm damn there down the block. 2:38:13.000 --> 2:38:16.920 This is when you flew commercial listen. 2:38:17.000 --> 2:38:20.200 I was like, Yo, I said, hold up, I can't 2:38:20.280 --> 2:38:26.039 get on this flight knowing how you know, hip hop 2:38:26.360 --> 2:38:29.920 just fails without I got to hit listen to both 2:38:30.040 --> 2:38:31.360 both of these ships going on. 2:38:32.400 --> 2:38:34.640 Come to find down they have no record. Yo. 2:38:34.800 --> 2:38:37.680 Oh my god, I missed the flight. It was everything, 2:38:37.760 --> 2:38:40.920 but it was It meant so much. Even if I 2:38:41.160 --> 2:38:43.800 probably would have been offered, YO, just listen to the 2:38:43.840 --> 2:38:45.000 Apple on the flight. 2:38:45.160 --> 2:38:46.040 You know you have Wi Fi. 2:38:46.480 --> 2:38:49.640 Even if I even offered that, I probably wouldn't have 2:38:49.680 --> 2:38:51.680 wanted to do it, because you know why, I wanted 2:38:51.720 --> 2:38:53.600 to be in the city listening to it. 2:38:53.760 --> 2:38:58.520 Yeah, it's a different feeling. And Flex has always gave. 2:38:58.440 --> 2:39:00.760 Me that, like it's a different film Christmas Eve. 2:39:00.840 --> 2:39:03.880 He plays classics, and he uses only vinyl, and he 2:39:03.959 --> 2:39:06.280 brings viral up to the station. He's done it for overtime, 2:39:07.080 --> 2:39:09.280 and I really know that, and I rarely miss the 2:39:09.360 --> 2:39:13.760 Christmas Eve and that for someone reason. Hearing him play 2:39:13.879 --> 2:39:16.600 hip hop from the seventies and eighties and soul music 2:39:16.640 --> 2:39:19.640 from the seventies and eighties, now it feels like Christmas 2:39:19.680 --> 2:39:22.400 Eve to me because it's really that music is really 2:39:22.440 --> 2:39:26.040 the sound of celebration. It's probably why I would imagine 2:39:26.040 --> 2:39:30.160 he he he chose that night to play that music. 2:39:31.040 --> 2:39:32.920 And you know, I moved to LA six years ago 2:39:33.640 --> 2:39:36.240 and I've listened to that on so notes. And to 2:39:36.360 --> 2:39:38.640 compliment what you just said, it's not the same. You 2:39:38.720 --> 2:39:39.360 gotta be there. 2:39:39.440 --> 2:39:41.480 You gotta be there. You gotta be out of the city. 2:39:41.680 --> 2:39:43.879 You gotta like, look at the guy with the frank stand, 2:39:44.480 --> 2:39:45.760 you know what I mean. You gotta look at the 2:39:45.840 --> 2:39:49.120 guy you know that's walking by selling peanuts, you know 2:39:49.160 --> 2:39:50.520 what I mean? Like that shit is like it like 2:39:51.160 --> 2:39:52.960 like I immediately get mad when I go back to 2:39:53.000 --> 2:39:53.600 New York City. 2:39:56.000 --> 2:39:56.480 You have to. 2:39:57.959 --> 2:40:00.960 We have a certain type of anger that comes with 2:40:01.080 --> 2:40:03.000 the city. And if you don't, you know, if you've 2:40:03.000 --> 2:40:04.920 got to be a little bit mad when you land back. 2:40:05.200 --> 2:40:07.600 You gotta just look at somebody, look at you know, well, 2:40:09.720 --> 2:40:12.080 because if not, the city will hit you up. 2:40:12.160 --> 2:40:12.360 Man. 2:40:13.200 --> 2:40:17.920 It's it's it's it's a beautiful, negative, most beautifulest place 2:40:18.000 --> 2:40:18.680 on the earth. 2:40:19.240 --> 2:40:21.560 But that energy you have to match it that. 2:40:21.800 --> 2:40:25.199 You cannot not be a lion in the lion's cage. 2:40:26.160 --> 2:40:30.240 Well setting even if you're not a lion. You Why 2:40:30.280 --> 2:40:31.520 are you in that lion's cage? 2:40:31.560 --> 2:40:35.520 You better act like it, get your get your ass 2:40:35.560 --> 2:40:37.640 out of there because you that. 2:40:38.640 --> 2:40:40.400 But all right, cool, let's go to the next one. 2:40:43.040 --> 2:40:48.080 Let's see what we got. Definitely you take this podcast 2:40:48.120 --> 2:40:48.560 of radio. 2:40:50.400 --> 2:40:52.959 I'm with you guys podcast radio. 2:40:54.200 --> 2:40:56.920 By the way, you just want to be let me 2:40:57.040 --> 2:40:58.920 just point out that you're the first person that I 2:40:59.120 --> 2:41:00.920 ever see honey. 2:41:01.720 --> 2:41:04.160 Like, like, like, did you plan this out? That shot 2:41:04.280 --> 2:41:05.560 takes two hours to get done. 2:41:05.600 --> 2:41:07.560 I'm losing my voice, so I asked the hotel for 2:41:07.680 --> 2:41:08.680 these little jars of honey. 2:41:08.840 --> 2:41:11.240 Oh, so you knew this was happening. So it's not 2:41:11.360 --> 2:41:13.080 my weed. It's not like that. 2:41:13.440 --> 2:41:17.280 Cool Now I'm thinking. I'm thinking, I'm like, yo, man, 2:41:18.400 --> 2:41:20.480 this is not right. The fans gonna look at this and. 2:41:20.600 --> 2:41:21.280 Like what is. 2:41:23.080 --> 2:41:23.200 Man? 2:41:23.800 --> 2:41:29.520 Like? Cool? So I he's so everyone knows. Nor did 2:41:29.600 --> 2:41:32.880 I try to out trying to smoke him the fuck out? 2:41:33.000 --> 2:41:35.840 No, he already knew his voice was cracking. Here he 2:41:36.280 --> 2:41:38.560 had pre honey. I never seen somebody with pre honey. 2:41:38.720 --> 2:41:41.520 That ship is fucking fantastic. I ain't gonna lie. I'm like, 2:41:42.520 --> 2:41:45.800 still your still your idea? Get you publishing on it though. Okay, 2:41:53.800 --> 2:41:59.160 I'm gonna give it to Okay, three six Mafia or a. 2:41:59.280 --> 2:41:59.760 Boy m J. 2:42:02.160 --> 2:42:05.080 You're giving him very tough, loud affiliated. 2:42:04.600 --> 2:42:10.800 Questions six and I'm going to you too, three six Okay, Okay, 2:42:14.879 --> 2:42:20.199 this is definitely you brand Nubian or tribecal. 2:42:19.840 --> 2:42:24.320 Quest tribe called quest you just RAPI fire. I'm very 2:42:24.400 --> 2:42:26.080 definitive in my hip hop emotions. 2:42:26.200 --> 2:42:27.680 Do you would you like to explain it? Because I 2:42:27.760 --> 2:42:29.480 know you've you didn't like that. 2:42:29.640 --> 2:42:30.920 Could explain that you could? 2:42:31.080 --> 2:42:32.160 Can you please? Yeah? 2:42:32.240 --> 2:42:35.400 My other favorite album of all time is Midnight Marauders. Okay, Wow, 2:42:37.400 --> 2:42:40.119 so they're not going to lose too many questions. 2:42:40.480 --> 2:42:42.960 Okay, where was you at when you first heard mid 2:42:43.040 --> 2:42:43.680 Right MARDs? 2:42:45.600 --> 2:42:49.800 That was twelve, about the same age as Elmatic, maybe 2:42:49.800 --> 2:42:50.400 a year younger. 2:42:54.520 --> 2:42:56.039 I think you can tell like. 2:42:58.040 --> 2:42:59.680 Kind of the era people grew up in in many 2:42:59.760 --> 2:43:02.160 cases by what their favorite hip hop albums are, because 2:43:02.240 --> 2:43:05.240 my three came out in like a three year time span, 2:43:05.440 --> 2:43:06.600 the thirdest Cuban links. 2:43:07.440 --> 2:43:17.760 Wow. Yeah, they definitely been setting you up all night. 2:43:18.120 --> 2:43:19.920 By the way, it's your friend mister Lee who fucking 2:43:20.320 --> 2:43:24.560 writes these questions, So don't don't look at me, mister 2:43:24.680 --> 2:43:26.160 Lee and Hazard a sound. 2:43:31.040 --> 2:43:32.600 Exhibit or Rascal. 2:43:32.800 --> 2:43:36.320 You're really doing this? This this guys, that's not good. 2:43:36.560 --> 2:43:40.039 I mean they're best friends, they're extremely close, but don't 2:43:40.600 --> 2:43:42.640 you know you go with the ex Yeah. 2:43:42.680 --> 2:43:45.360 Do you remember when me and next had an argument? No, 2:43:46.879 --> 2:43:48.480 and me and you, you would come by the office 2:43:48.520 --> 2:43:48.959 to say. 2:43:49.600 --> 2:43:52.360 Oh, okay, okay, you back town. Recently, I'm like, damn, 2:43:52.400 --> 2:43:54.640 you had an argument yesterday. What happened? 2:43:54.959 --> 2:43:59.040 No, Jesus Jesus you you really haven't given Steve the 2:43:59.240 --> 2:44:01.280 hardest one of this category. 2:44:01.560 --> 2:44:04.280 Okay, es if you don't go there, I kind of 2:44:04.360 --> 2:44:05.960 want to. I kind of want to throw it out there, 2:44:06.200 --> 2:44:07.160 throw it out you want to take. 2:44:08.959 --> 2:44:09.200 Let's go. 2:44:09.480 --> 2:44:12.240 Okay, So I'm gonna ask the three of you. Okay, yeah, 2:44:12.360 --> 2:44:14.760 and rak Onon or ghost Face. 2:44:16.040 --> 2:44:23.760 Both? Okay, shot crowd. I'm proud because is really both wall. 2:44:23.600 --> 2:44:26.480 Wait, we're getting there. Okay, give up your answer yet. 2:44:26.720 --> 2:44:27.440 We're waiting for you. 2:44:27.959 --> 2:44:30.400 This is opening act, right, Okay, Yeah, this is the 2:44:30.480 --> 2:44:32.520 same question, the same question, Nori. 2:44:32.920 --> 2:44:36.240 Yeah, rak One the chef or ghost Face killer. 2:44:36.440 --> 2:44:39.440 I just said both. You said both of ye What 2:44:39.560 --> 2:44:41.840 that means the shot took it. Yeah, yeah, I said both. 2:44:41.720 --> 2:44:46.400 Steve Rifkins, I'm saying both, so we we I mean, 2:44:47.640 --> 2:44:49.640 you dank a hard question. 2:44:49.760 --> 2:44:53.720 That's like saying which kid you like better? Okay, that's fair. 2:44:55.200 --> 2:44:55.440 For me. 2:44:55.520 --> 2:44:59.160 It's like saying which foot you like better? I like? Okay, Yeah, 2:44:59.320 --> 2:45:10.920 go ahead, ask no, Yes, Premiere or Pete Rock? Okay? 2:45:13.480 --> 2:45:19.400 Got me? And I'm taking it back. Can you one more? 2:45:19.400 --> 2:45:20.920 And taking it back? Okay? 2:45:21.480 --> 2:45:23.680 And so we asked the same question to others. You 2:45:23.879 --> 2:45:26.680 a different one ahead, but I'm gonna ask the same 2:45:26.720 --> 2:45:29.359 to you. I'm curious what you he took a shot already. 2:45:29.040 --> 2:45:31.480 No, no, I didn't, but I would take a shot 2:45:31.520 --> 2:45:31.920 and say. 2:45:31.800 --> 2:45:35.760 Both, say both, Steve, DJ, Premier, Pete. 2:45:35.560 --> 2:45:38.760 Rock both definitely got the next one? All right? I 2:45:38.760 --> 2:45:39.320 can't do one more? 2:45:39.440 --> 2:45:40.880 Yeah, please go on more around for you? 2:45:41.080 --> 2:45:47.360 Yes, three three is my lucky numbers. Three and holding 2:45:47.440 --> 2:45:54.840 on to that rock him where big Daddy came? Okay, 2:45:55.280 --> 2:46:01.080 got me gain, Yeah that's what the game was. I'm 2:46:01.120 --> 2:46:03.480 not gonna fight you. I'm not gonna fight what was it? 2:46:03.560 --> 2:46:10.240 What was it? A yein rock came my big Daddy game. Okay, 2:46:10.320 --> 2:46:11.320 now it's back to me. 2:46:11.480 --> 2:46:14.959 I passed the mic back digital analog. 2:46:16.600 --> 2:46:17.800 Is it DJ or a listener? 2:46:19.000 --> 2:46:21.360 It's your criteria game all night. 2:46:23.400 --> 2:46:23.800 Digital? 2:46:24.240 --> 2:46:24.520 Okay. 2:46:26.040 --> 2:46:28.760 I just like having more songs with me. There's so 2:46:28.879 --> 2:46:32.000 much I like about Vinyl better. But having a million 2:46:32.120 --> 2:46:33.640 songs is better than having a thousand. 2:46:34.080 --> 2:46:35.520 Like, you couldn't have win just the crack. 2:46:35.640 --> 2:46:36.200 I missed a lot. 2:46:36.320 --> 2:46:39.160 You couldn't have went to jay Z and Beyonce's wedding 2:46:39.280 --> 2:46:39.760 with Vinyl. 2:46:39.879 --> 2:46:41.320 Oh, no I did. I went all over the world 2:46:41.360 --> 2:46:42.080 with Vinyl. 2:46:42.080 --> 2:46:45.160 Because they use only one guest invited, right, he was only. 2:46:45.080 --> 2:46:47.120 You, and I would have had to carry my own crates. 2:46:47.480 --> 2:46:49.360 You to carry your own I did that for many years. 2:46:49.640 --> 2:46:50.240 God damn it. 2:46:50.640 --> 2:46:51.600 That's made some noise for that. 2:46:54.200 --> 2:46:56.600 Any DJ that was worth anything to carry their own 2:46:56.640 --> 2:46:59.240 creates for a while. Eight crates in the trunk of 2:46:59.320 --> 2:47:01.240 a New York time. See one in the front, one 2:47:01.280 --> 2:47:05.720 in the back. You could bring eight crates in a cab, but. 2:47:08.240 --> 2:47:09.280 I ain't doing the cab though. 2:47:10.520 --> 2:47:11.240 That's horrible. 2:47:12.080 --> 2:47:15.400 Damn, I don't even like that's that's so yeah, because 2:47:15.400 --> 2:47:16.560 I'm trying to stick to the trunk. 2:47:16.600 --> 2:47:17.800 One in the front, one in the back. But it 2:47:17.840 --> 2:47:19.880 took five cabs to get one that let you do that. 2:47:20.480 --> 2:47:22.400 Diego couldn't even put up pizza in here today. 2:47:23.040 --> 2:47:23.440 He smell. 2:47:23.920 --> 2:47:31.879 He said, you carry the person. 2:47:34.160 --> 2:47:34.840 So listen to this. 2:47:35.000 --> 2:47:36.000 One night we were talking. 2:47:37.000 --> 2:47:40.400 Is the strongest guy on the strongest guy with the 2:47:40.440 --> 2:47:49.240 pizza pizza one of the strongest guys strong carry crates 2:47:49.240 --> 2:47:50.600 in the New York City taxi cab? 2:47:50.760 --> 2:47:53.400 Can you look at my front? Untell? What the hell 2:47:53.520 --> 2:47:53.960 is going on? 2:47:54.080 --> 2:47:57.520 In many In many instances in New York, you know, 2:47:57.640 --> 2:48:00.680 they would block the street off. So we talked about 2:48:00.760 --> 2:48:03.440 Cheetah for instance, right, I love so Cheetah was on 2:48:03.560 --> 2:48:06.760 twenty first Street between fifth and sixth Avenues, so if 2:48:06.840 --> 2:48:10.640 the club was extra popping, they would barricade the whole 2:48:10.680 --> 2:48:14.480 street on Fifth Avenue and sixth Avenue, and Cheetah was 2:48:14.520 --> 2:48:17.560 smacked in between fifth and sixth. So I would walk 2:48:17.600 --> 2:48:20.000 out of there a four point thirty and no cars 2:48:20.080 --> 2:48:23.200 could get through the club. So I was carrying a 2:48:23.240 --> 2:48:25.280 crate out of time to Fifth Avenue and had someone 2:48:25.360 --> 2:48:27.760 watch them while I went back and got the rest. 2:48:28.240 --> 2:48:31.519 So before Cheetah, it was a club called Privatize. 2:48:32.680 --> 2:48:36.240 Oh sound sound forty fifth Street, twenty first Street Privatized, right, 2:48:37.240 --> 2:48:38.240 It was just I. 2:48:38.240 --> 2:48:38.920 Got too excited. 2:48:39.640 --> 2:48:42.720 Strip club, Yeah, vip down the road, let me. 2:48:42.760 --> 2:48:47.920 Call myself down Yeah yeah, but okay, Private Eye privatized 2:48:48.040 --> 2:48:51.800 and it was the first video club. What does that mean? 2:48:52.600 --> 2:48:55.680 The club was full all videos. They would But what 2:48:55.800 --> 2:48:58.880 he did, like with past the mic it was the 2:48:59.120 --> 2:49:01.720 recorded is the DJ would play. 2:49:03.320 --> 2:49:05.160 The eighty three. 2:49:07.600 --> 2:49:11.400 Yes in sync with the DJ the videos playing Yeah, 2:49:11.480 --> 2:49:11.800 like it was. 2:49:12.480 --> 2:49:13.880 I mean it was, it was. 2:49:14.080 --> 2:49:16.240 It was amazing and the most beautiful woman in the 2:49:16.280 --> 2:49:16.680 world with it. 2:49:17.920 --> 2:49:21.960 A crazy, a crazy thing about Steve is, you know, 2:49:22.120 --> 2:49:24.800 much of the public associates Steve with Loud Records and 2:49:25.400 --> 2:49:26.800 hip hop New York hip hop. 2:49:27.240 --> 2:49:28.920 That's awesome, O. 2:49:30.000 --> 2:49:32.880 But Steve could tell you a place in time, in 2:49:32.959 --> 2:49:36.560 a story for every classic R and B record. You know, 2:49:36.760 --> 2:49:40.840 I do fancy myself somewhat of an encyclopedia. There's of 2:49:40.920 --> 2:49:43.920 course people who could you know, taught me. But every 2:49:44.000 --> 2:49:46.520 record I ever play or love or mentioned, there was 2:49:46.600 --> 2:49:50.680 an you know on the show pass to my Steve 2:49:50.800 --> 2:49:53.600 worked the record as a twenty year old, or Steve 2:49:53.760 --> 2:49:58.240 brought the record Frankie Crocker, or some crazy story that 2:49:58.360 --> 2:49:59.279 Steve was involved. 2:49:59.320 --> 2:50:01.440 He's like the far risk gump of like R and 2:50:01.520 --> 2:50:02.959 B promotion of the early eighties. 2:50:03.040 --> 2:50:04.840 We kind of already found out with this new addition 2:50:05.280 --> 2:50:06.840 added story. 2:50:06.640 --> 2:50:09.200 With you, it's always so new. 2:50:09.560 --> 2:50:11.879 Boom alight we moving on to the next one. Yes, 2:50:12.959 --> 2:50:16.920 oh god, I got, I got, I got hold up? 2:50:17.640 --> 2:50:19.400 Will be in her trap called quick. We said that 2:50:20.760 --> 2:50:22.720 I was in the bathroom. You didn't exhibit too? 2:50:23.040 --> 2:50:23.240 Yeah? 2:50:23.320 --> 2:50:26.080 Yes, yeah, you you said Kanye too? 2:50:30.600 --> 2:50:30.800 Yeah? 2:50:33.400 --> 2:50:47.080 Kanye or Pharrell? I'm going with you Pharrell, Like, do 2:50:47.240 --> 2:50:50.400 we take a shot because they're not on the same level. 2:50:50.920 --> 2:50:54.000 Your connection with Yate? How did that form so so strongly? 2:51:00.120 --> 2:51:04.280 I didn't know him, Like when like his first few albums, 2:51:05.080 --> 2:51:10.240 he was at Matahisa at the restaurant, at the restaurant 2:51:10.320 --> 2:51:13.080 and I was there and Noboo comes up to me 2:51:14.160 --> 2:51:15.879 and says, you know Kanye. 2:51:16.000 --> 2:51:17.920 I said, actually no, I said, can you go back 2:51:17.959 --> 2:51:19.840 to him and see if it's okay. 2:51:23.800 --> 2:51:24.320 To say hello? 2:51:24.600 --> 2:51:27.520 So do you remember when you guys did to drink 2:51:27.600 --> 2:51:29.240 champs in my office in La Yeah? 2:51:29.320 --> 2:51:31.720 Yeah, so I was. 2:51:32.360 --> 2:51:35.680 I had a concept to do an album where I 2:51:35.720 --> 2:51:39.680 took nine of the most relevant rappers in like twenty seventeen, 2:51:39.680 --> 2:51:42.879 twenty eighteen, and Redo thirty six Chambers. 2:51:44.160 --> 2:51:46.800 And I wanted, wait, wait, okay, you going keep going? Wait? 2:51:46.800 --> 2:51:47.080 Wait wait? 2:51:47.200 --> 2:51:48.360 What was resil? 2:51:48.600 --> 2:51:50.560 And honest yeah, me and ris were partner really. 2:51:50.480 --> 2:51:54.960 Yeah and that was like every song that redo the 2:51:54.959 --> 2:51:55.480 whole album. 2:51:55.720 --> 2:51:55.920 Wow. 2:51:56.360 --> 2:51:59.080 And I wanted Yay to be Risen. 2:51:59.680 --> 2:52:00.560 Mm wow. 2:52:01.760 --> 2:52:02.119 We didn't. 2:52:02.120 --> 2:52:04.200 I could have called Scooter, but I knew Scooter as 2:52:04.240 --> 2:52:08.560 a manager. No matter, even though I raised Scooter, I 2:52:08.600 --> 2:52:09.600 would be he would. 2:52:09.360 --> 2:52:09.800 Have blocked it. 2:52:10.120 --> 2:52:12.840 And he just happened to be there. I said, is 2:52:12.879 --> 2:52:15.600 it all right if I come by tomorrow or whatever? 2:52:15.680 --> 2:52:21.160 He says please, And he's a huge basketball fan and 2:52:21.400 --> 2:52:25.160 he had a game every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and he says, 2:52:25.200 --> 2:52:27.280 you play ball. I said, yeah, but I just had 2:52:27.520 --> 2:52:29.880 heart surgery, so I didn't know how. I said, okay, 2:52:29.920 --> 2:52:32.200 if I bring my son, and I don't like to 2:52:32.320 --> 2:52:34.640 lose it. So you know, my son played college ball, 2:52:36.320 --> 2:52:40.280 so so I brought my son, and. 2:52:43.120 --> 2:52:44.400 You know, he was on my team. 2:52:44.440 --> 2:52:46.240 And with my son on the team, you know, we 2:52:46.320 --> 2:52:48.600 didn't lose a game. So it was cool and we 2:52:49.040 --> 2:52:50.480 you know, and we just started talking. 2:52:51.280 --> 2:52:54.200 And then I saw what type of sneakers though it 2:52:55.240 --> 2:52:58.920 He goes, they're gonna be the easy basketball shop. And 2:52:59.000 --> 2:53:01.320 I said, that's another big dollars for you right there. 2:53:01.320 --> 2:53:03.320 And I said, you know, I consulted Nike, you know, 2:53:03.360 --> 2:53:06.720 for Alicia. I was feel nice personal consultant, and he 2:53:07.240 --> 2:53:09.080 literally pretty much hied me on the spot. 2:53:09.680 --> 2:53:12.240 Wow mhm. 2:53:13.360 --> 2:53:16.480 And that relationship has been tested, yeah. 2:53:16.360 --> 2:53:19.720 I mean there's times when he hates my guts, like 2:53:20.200 --> 2:53:22.600 you know, and there are times that he loves me 2:53:22.680 --> 2:53:23.000 to death. 2:53:23.040 --> 2:53:27.200 But I'll always be that from right, even when I 2:53:27.280 --> 2:53:28.680 just even when I disagree with him. 2:53:28.720 --> 2:53:32.320 You guys saw it that one time when yeah, yeah, 2:53:33.200 --> 2:53:36.320 don't man, he felt like you wanted to address that. 2:53:36.760 --> 2:53:38.920 Huh, I said, we felt like you wanted to address that? 2:53:39.040 --> 2:53:42.600 But then or now? Uh right? 2:53:42.720 --> 2:53:42.840 Now? 2:53:43.000 --> 2:53:50.400 Yeah, no, I mean finally make sense. I mean, yeah, 2:53:51.959 --> 2:53:54.360 I know he has a heart of goals, right, and 2:53:54.760 --> 2:53:58.119 you know what he means basically. And if you remember 2:53:58.320 --> 2:54:02.640 when I hugged him that I was a true it 2:54:02.840 --> 2:54:05.400 wasn't a fake, you know hug and I was like, 2:54:06.280 --> 2:54:09.200 whoever is wherever it came from? 2:54:10.879 --> 2:54:19.440 He just said it wrong, right, and and that's what 2:54:19.600 --> 2:54:20.880 it it was. 2:54:21.640 --> 2:54:23.320 You know, if I said, hey, you know what, I 2:54:23.400 --> 2:54:26.480 need to borrow five million dollars just you know, he 2:54:26.640 --> 2:54:27.480 was happy to see. 2:54:28.240 --> 2:54:29.560 He would he would give me the money. 2:54:29.879 --> 2:54:32.920 That's without that's what That's not what we're talking about, though. No, 2:54:33.240 --> 2:54:35.520 so I I just think he has a hard time 2:54:35.600 --> 2:54:37.240 communicating really what he wants to say. 2:54:37.920 --> 2:54:41.040 And and then that's all and that's all it is, right, 2:54:43.040 --> 2:54:44.119 Kendrick or Drake. 2:54:45.160 --> 2:54:51.000 Huh No, got what he's Jesus, No, it's not really 2:54:51.080 --> 2:54:56.920 got him. It's not a both or the ear. I 2:54:57.080 --> 2:55:02.960 just have different Well you have to answer one. Steve 2:55:03.080 --> 2:55:15.720 got him. Okay, Kendrick, you're not like us. I gotta 2:55:15.760 --> 2:55:17.360 be honest with you. It has nothing to do with 2:55:17.520 --> 2:55:20.080 the with the Beef records, no, but but I'm just 2:55:20.120 --> 2:55:20.840 saying I am. 2:55:21.280 --> 2:55:22.440 But they're not like Uh. 2:55:24.520 --> 2:55:28.199 I just feel musically the songs. 2:55:27.879 --> 2:55:30.680 That I'm going to listen to forever there there there 2:55:30.720 --> 2:55:33.000 are songs in Kendrick's catalog. 2:55:34.600 --> 2:55:39.520 Musically that to me are just deep, just on another level. 2:55:40.000 --> 2:55:43.480 And so for one word answer Kendrick, but you know 2:55:43.560 --> 2:55:45.720 it's obviously way more complex. But having nothing to do 2:55:45.800 --> 2:55:47.480 with it. That wasn't a who won the beef question. 2:55:48.560 --> 2:55:51.160 We're just having fun with it. How about you, Kendrick, 2:55:54.400 --> 2:55:58.080 Steve hesitate. He said, they're not like us not. 2:55:58.200 --> 2:56:01.160 Like, but but if you if you look at my 2:56:01.320 --> 2:56:05.760 heritage of music, right, who who? Who is Kendricks? 2:56:06.160 --> 2:56:08.360 I don't know for sure. 2:56:08.400 --> 2:56:09.000 It's Prodigy. 2:56:11.200 --> 2:56:12.800 Yeah, the reason why he started rapping. 2:56:13.440 --> 2:56:14.160 He says, Prodigy. 2:56:15.040 --> 2:56:20.840 Google it again, he's gonna save Please. Hey, Google, I 2:56:21.040 --> 2:56:32.800 like how Steve knows the room. What you said? He said? 2:56:33.040 --> 2:56:35.359 He said, google us under the influence. 2:56:37.440 --> 2:56:38.560 That's a horridful. 2:56:39.720 --> 2:56:43.240 Jesus, Jesus. All right, yeah, but you tell us when 2:56:43.280 --> 2:56:49.600 they when Hey, hey, Google's not that slow, bro, It's 2:56:49.680 --> 2:56:52.040 called high speed internet. Bro, don't blame it on the 2:56:52.120 --> 2:56:57.320 rain neither. Why do you both have just say Kendrick 2:56:57.360 --> 2:56:57.920 and Prodigy? 2:56:58.959 --> 2:56:59.400 M hm. 2:57:02.600 --> 2:57:07.560 A little okay? Well yeah, all right, he's on you 2:57:07.680 --> 2:57:09.920 let us know when you find it. He's on dialogue. Yeah, 2:57:10.000 --> 2:57:12.360 what kind of Yeah you you on. 2:57:14.680 --> 2:57:15.280 On analog? 2:57:15.600 --> 2:57:21.039 That's present? Yeah? What happened? 2:57:21.440 --> 2:57:23.120 And Prodigy? 2:57:23.600 --> 2:57:25.120 Yeah? You that's all you got? 2:57:25.560 --> 2:57:25.840 All that? 2:57:33.800 --> 2:57:39.280 Holy? We better, bro? Better? 2:57:40.160 --> 2:57:45.080 What's worry? Don't talking to sese? 2:57:45.959 --> 2:57:47.280 What's will? I am ship that? 2:57:48.800 --> 2:57:48.959 Hey? 2:57:49.080 --> 2:57:49.480 I well? 2:57:49.560 --> 2:57:50.119 I am right? 2:57:50.680 --> 2:57:56.800 No, you know you're a law bro. You're ce Iah 2:57:57.080 --> 2:57:57.600 the next one. 2:57:57.680 --> 2:57:58.360 You got a name? 2:57:58.680 --> 2:58:01.120 She got what Kenner said? 2:58:01.920 --> 2:58:05.840 Kendrick noted Prodigy's influence on his early style and development 2:58:05.920 --> 2:58:10.000 as its writer, and an MC describing the original recording setup. 2:58:13.200 --> 2:58:14.199 It's weird. 2:58:19.240 --> 2:58:19.680 Right there. 2:58:20.800 --> 2:58:23.480 Yeah, well, not all of us went to school. That's 2:58:23.560 --> 2:58:24.760 why you gotta read it. 2:58:25.120 --> 2:58:28.920 You school, Google, bro, You know you can spell it 2:58:29.000 --> 2:58:31.000 roll and Google says, no, this is what you mean. 2:58:34.440 --> 2:58:37.040 At the next one, We're fucked in the future. 2:58:37.320 --> 2:58:38.240 I heard the next one. 2:58:38.760 --> 2:58:40.800 You heard it, right, I know Steve's answer. 2:58:40.800 --> 2:58:42.360 Dead Present Clips was that to me? 2:58:42.440 --> 2:58:42.680 It's a. 2:58:44.280 --> 2:58:44.560 Both. 2:58:46.400 --> 2:58:48.360 I mean, as much as I love Pusher, I mean 2:58:48.400 --> 2:58:49.720 I'm going with Dead Press. 2:58:51.680 --> 2:58:54.039 Now you too. And hip Hop is. 2:58:54.040 --> 2:58:55.720 One of my top five records of all time. 2:58:55.840 --> 2:58:58.760 I love that record, A pivotal record. 2:59:00.040 --> 2:59:02.480 You may between y'all, and I mean, I think that record. 2:59:02.280 --> 2:59:03.200 Means a lot to hip hop. 2:59:03.959 --> 2:59:06.720 Clips, his first album is one of my favorite hip 2:59:06.720 --> 2:59:08.960 hop albums in the past twenty years. Well now it's 2:59:09.400 --> 2:59:13.119 twenty years. God willing will and I love the Clips 2:59:13.200 --> 2:59:15.200 really really, I'm not telling you what I mean. 2:59:15.280 --> 2:59:17.400 But the Dead Press, I mean, at the end of 2:59:17.440 --> 2:59:22.160 the day, I mean that record to this day will 2:59:22.200 --> 2:59:23.800 still be played everywhere. 2:59:26.520 --> 2:59:26.680 Is that? 2:59:29.280 --> 2:59:33.040 Yeah, this is the last question for the interview, But 2:59:33.080 --> 2:59:34.720 this is the last question for a quick time with live. 2:59:34.920 --> 2:59:37.720 Okay, I'm not going to lead the witness. Don't lead 2:59:37.760 --> 2:59:41.120 the witness. Both for y' all you can answer at 2:59:41.160 --> 2:59:43.080 the same time. Just to look way. 2:59:43.120 --> 2:59:45.359 One of the questions the whiz. 2:59:46.840 --> 2:59:54.959 Loyalty or respect loyalty same? Please we need both explanations. 2:59:55.040 --> 2:59:57.160 Why for for me? I grew up. 2:59:57.200 --> 3:00:02.880 If you aren't loyal, You'll be swimming somewhere. Man, You've 3:00:02.879 --> 3:00:12.880 been swimming with the fishes. And listen, not for nothing, Steve, 3:00:13.240 --> 3:00:15.680 but you've been giving Martlasky vibes the whole time. 3:00:15.720 --> 3:00:20.960 We've been always so we know, we know, Bro, you 3:00:21.320 --> 3:00:23.080 got it shut out to your family. 3:00:29.000 --> 3:00:32.200 I think loyalty precedes respect if you're not loyal to 3:00:32.280 --> 3:00:34.440 people who are going to respect you both. 3:00:34.760 --> 3:00:35.360 This is the thing. 3:00:36.440 --> 3:00:38.880 You can't pick both, right, But it's the thing the 3:00:39.440 --> 3:00:41.840 game was to not to not say both. 3:00:42.560 --> 3:00:45.640 It's not the goal to make decisive decisions. 3:00:45.720 --> 3:00:48.640 It's decisive for you. Whatever is decisive. What is your 3:00:48.760 --> 3:00:49.520 decisive right? 3:00:49.680 --> 3:00:49.800 Right? 3:00:49.879 --> 3:00:51.039 So I'm saying it's not both. 3:00:51.440 --> 3:00:52.640 Okay, No, no, I get it, I get it. 3:00:52.680 --> 3:00:56.359 But wouldn't both in this situation be the ideal situation? 3:00:56.959 --> 3:00:58.560 This is why I'm always getting I thought, you have 3:00:58.680 --> 3:01:00.440 to choose one of the other you could only have, 3:01:01.280 --> 3:01:04.280 but you've you've been choosing too well, not you going 3:01:04.320 --> 3:01:05.480 crazy with got a second? 3:01:06.400 --> 3:01:07.039 Hold on a second. 3:01:07.280 --> 3:01:10.200 With every every single pair you've mentioned, not one of 3:01:10.280 --> 3:01:11.480 us have disliked the other. 3:01:11.680 --> 3:01:12.680 It was always which. 3:01:14.720 --> 3:01:15.120 Right, right? 3:01:15.240 --> 3:01:17.320 So respect loyalty, it's which one if you could only 3:01:17.400 --> 3:01:17.720 have one. 3:01:17.800 --> 3:01:19.840 But there's two different things, to be honest with you, 3:01:20.160 --> 3:01:22.640 But if you had the idea, if you could ideally 3:01:22.720 --> 3:01:30.360 have both, you would have people say to both of 3:01:30.800 --> 3:01:34.120 all the questions on everything they have. They have a 3:01:34.160 --> 3:01:38.400 hard time saying one. Well, because you, guys, I think. 3:01:40.280 --> 3:01:41.080 Two different things. 3:01:42.040 --> 3:01:45.400 I don't want to hear you right now. There are 3:01:45.879 --> 3:01:47.879 there are, there are two different blocks. 3:01:48.920 --> 3:01:49.800 At the end of the day. 3:01:52.360 --> 3:01:54.880 You can respect somebody and not be loyal to them, right, 3:01:56.360 --> 3:01:58.680 And you could be loyal to somebody and that and 3:01:58.760 --> 3:01:59.480 not respect them. 3:02:00.600 --> 3:02:02.560 But if you look in a great world where you 3:02:02.640 --> 3:02:05.000 could say, hey, I want you to but it's loyal 3:02:05.120 --> 3:02:09.039 and respect me, yeah, I mean yeah that I would. 3:02:09.160 --> 3:02:11.000 I would love for the whole world to be loyal 3:02:11.080 --> 3:02:13.120 to me, to respect me, to do But at the 3:02:13.720 --> 3:02:16.200 at the end of the day, how I grew up. 3:02:17.600 --> 3:02:20.840 It's about loyalty. You always got you always got to 3:02:20.920 --> 3:02:22.280 go into somebody's house. 3:02:23.400 --> 3:02:28.160 Well, now is we often get respect more than loyalty, right, 3:02:28.280 --> 3:02:29.400 That's what we often get. 3:02:30.040 --> 3:02:32.120 Anything else I would say, like a fifty five not 3:02:32.280 --> 3:02:33.080 I'd say more. 3:02:33.200 --> 3:02:35.959 People say I would prefer they respect me because they 3:02:36.040 --> 3:02:37.240 say loyalty. 3:02:37.640 --> 3:02:38.760 People because it's limits. 3:02:38.800 --> 3:02:41.600 They say, rights. 3:02:40.560 --> 3:02:42.680 Comes from quality. I mean, people. 3:02:42.560 --> 3:02:45.200 Respect you if you if you if you look at 3:02:45.280 --> 3:02:45.920 Rock Nation. 3:02:47.320 --> 3:02:51.400 Or any you know, if it's Kevin Hart's company, Jay's company, 3:02:52.720 --> 3:02:55.000 they're all so loyal to each other. It's a it's 3:02:55.040 --> 3:02:58.440 a beautiful thing to watch. I mean, it really is 3:02:58.600 --> 3:03:02.560 the reason why Loud one we were a team, you 3:03:02.640 --> 3:03:05.600 know from the art. I mean thirty years ago. Like 3:03:05.720 --> 3:03:08.520 I still have a relationship with Joe. I mean when 3:03:08.560 --> 3:03:10.440 I was gone for thirty five minutes, I was on 3:03:10.480 --> 3:03:11.480 the phone with Rizza. 3:03:13.440 --> 3:03:13.760 I have. 3:03:14.280 --> 3:03:17.080 I was like that, but no, no, no, but you're 3:03:17.160 --> 3:03:18.840 taking a ship talking to Rise at the same time. 3:03:18.879 --> 3:03:19.840 I get it. Yeah, I get it. 3:03:20.000 --> 3:03:20.960 No, No, let me say something. 3:03:21.080 --> 3:03:26.200 After the BT Hip Hop Awards that you are part 3:03:26.240 --> 3:03:28.840 of two years ago, Loud was honored, right, Yeah, and 3:03:29.040 --> 3:03:29.720 you guys were there. 3:03:32.240 --> 3:03:32.960 Yeah, they won. 3:03:33.760 --> 3:03:39.400 Maybe, So after after the awards we went to dinner. 3:03:39.560 --> 3:03:41.480 I think, yeah, I was gonna ask if you were there. 3:03:41.520 --> 3:03:43.400 You were there, okay, So Fat Joe made a little 3:03:43.400 --> 3:03:49.360 speech and he says something about Steve that was so 3:03:49.560 --> 3:03:54.040 dead on that he't capitalizes Steve to me, he said, 3:03:54.080 --> 3:03:59.280 first of all, who gets ten or more of their 3:03:59.760 --> 3:04:04.800 four more artists artists to show up for a tribute. 3:04:05.640 --> 3:04:10.640 Then he said who gets them to rehearse? Then he 3:04:10.720 --> 3:04:14.160 said who gets them to rehearse the day before and 3:04:14.280 --> 3:04:17.400 the day of? And then he said who gets them 3:04:17.480 --> 3:04:19.640 to rehearse the day before and the day of and 3:04:19.760 --> 3:04:21.119 say nothing but nice things? 3:04:27.720 --> 3:04:30.160 It's fantastic. We was there to witness at hold and 3:04:30.160 --> 3:04:30.480 he used the. 3:04:30.480 --> 3:04:33.640 Back We were definitely there, so we so we we 3:04:33.800 --> 3:04:38.480 finalized this this love and loyalty, love and loyalty, loyalty respect. 3:04:39.920 --> 3:04:40.160 Well. 3:04:40.240 --> 3:04:43.440 See, I think the entire game I was under the 3:04:43.480 --> 3:04:47.640 impression was to pick because if you're supposed to say 3:04:47.640 --> 3:04:49.680 both and I would like to renag on my Swiss 3:04:49.720 --> 3:04:50.800 and Timberland and my. 3:04:51.800 --> 3:04:55.720 And I thought you had to choose a favorite. 3:04:55.720 --> 3:04:56.280 You didn't have to. 3:04:56.760 --> 3:04:59.879 It was preferably to your criteria. You could pick one 3:05:00.080 --> 3:05:00.720 or the other or. 3:05:00.720 --> 3:05:03.400 Both, right, But I thought the cop out is saying 3:05:03.480 --> 3:05:05.640 both the cop right, it's the cop out. 3:05:05.680 --> 3:05:10.200 Okay, so all right, but you're actually the way you're 3:05:10.240 --> 3:05:12.640 saying it, you're right, man, that you're fucking right, And 3:05:12.720 --> 3:05:14.879 it sucks because. 3:05:14.600 --> 3:05:15.279 You're saying. 3:05:16.920 --> 3:05:17.840 No, no way. 3:05:18.080 --> 3:05:20.880 Steve says to me every day, you can't debate the 3:05:20.920 --> 3:05:23.440 guy right, because the way I'm trying to argue it 3:05:23.600 --> 3:05:25.560 is like, if I had the choice, these are the two, 3:05:25.600 --> 3:05:27.240 I would want both of those things. 3:05:27.680 --> 3:05:29.680 But then you're saying the way we put the game 3:05:29.800 --> 3:05:31.119 up is the cop. 3:05:31.240 --> 3:05:32.320 So let me tell you a funny story. 3:05:32.440 --> 3:05:34.680 So this is passing. 3:05:34.720 --> 3:05:37.360 Mic is really it's his baby, like I'm an uncle 3:05:37.560 --> 3:05:41.080 or a grandfather. Right, So when I really disagree with 3:05:41.160 --> 3:05:47.920 them on something, my fiance, she she knows how to communicate. Right, 3:05:48.080 --> 3:05:50.840 it takes me two weeks. I'll streaming him for two weeks, 3:05:50.879 --> 3:05:53.240 something about himself, hang up the phone. I mean, I 3:05:53.280 --> 3:05:56.400 won't talk to him, Mike. I I gotta get I 3:05:56.440 --> 3:05:59.920 gotta get myself ready, knowing I got to get myself 3:06:00.080 --> 3:06:02.160 two weeks because I know how he's gonna come back 3:06:02.360 --> 3:06:06.480 with the fucking thing. No when he has a vision 3:06:07.320 --> 3:06:10.240 there's no fucking way you could change his mind. So 3:06:10.400 --> 3:06:13.720 I got to come with every fucking fact, possible reason. 3:06:14.680 --> 3:06:19.960 And Aliyah, she really knows how to communicate. Well, so 3:06:20.560 --> 3:06:23.520 your wife, that's your wife fiance. Yeah, so I'm like 3:06:25.000 --> 3:06:29.560 rehearsing every fucking day for two weeks, pacing back and 3:06:29.640 --> 3:06:32.879 forth in my bedroom to go at this motherfucker. 3:06:39.320 --> 3:06:41.720 So it's very rarely that you're gonna win a debate 3:06:41.800 --> 3:06:42.040 with him. 3:06:42.840 --> 3:06:44.480 You have to go a different way around. 3:06:46.080 --> 3:06:48.080 So again, I haven't found the way. 3:06:49.400 --> 3:06:50.959 I just said, there's no fucking way. 3:06:51.360 --> 3:06:53.680 Listen, I don't think you really answered when I told 3:06:53.840 --> 3:06:56.760 when I asked you like that moment, those things that 3:06:57.000 --> 3:07:00.680 that moment that really I know you said, there's many right, 3:07:00.800 --> 3:07:03.120 it's hard they got you down, but no, no, but 3:07:03.200 --> 3:07:07.879 there has to be this pivotal thing that happened between 3:07:08.080 --> 3:07:12.000 a moment that you're just this DJ kid and then 3:07:12.040 --> 3:07:14.240 you become this other thing. 3:07:17.879 --> 3:07:20.280 Again. I think I know it sounds it's not a 3:07:20.480 --> 3:07:24.000 copy out of an answer. There were there was like 3:07:24.080 --> 3:07:24.840 a five year. 3:07:24.840 --> 3:07:30.280 Span from age an era, Yeah, age seventeen to twenty 3:07:30.360 --> 3:07:34.080 three or eighteen to to you know, seventeen to twenty 3:07:34.120 --> 3:07:36.040 two or eighteen to twenty three, maybe a five year 3:07:36.160 --> 3:07:42.000 span where every opportunity really snowballed into the next and 3:07:44.560 --> 3:07:50.160 all those things, from the school parties to the internships. 3:07:50.920 --> 3:07:53.760 To the first celebrity. 3:07:53.280 --> 3:07:57.600 Seeing me DJ all led to what came next, and 3:07:58.240 --> 3:08:02.520 everyone heard me at someone else's party and ended up 3:08:02.560 --> 3:08:02.920 calling me. 3:08:03.000 --> 3:08:05.680 And by the time I was in my low twenties, 3:08:06.440 --> 3:08:07.520 I became known. 3:08:09.560 --> 3:08:16.360 For playing not only celebrities parties, but hip hop celebrities parties. 3:08:18.320 --> 3:08:21.520 And I think over the years when I get asked 3:08:21.600 --> 3:08:25.080 most like, what why do you think that happened? Why 3:08:25.160 --> 3:08:27.320 did you end up the guy at that time in 3:08:27.400 --> 3:08:32.440 your life playing for the heavyweights of hip hop? And 3:08:32.800 --> 3:08:36.360 I always I hate answering that question because I don't 3:08:36.400 --> 3:08:38.520 like speaking for the people who called on me. 3:08:38.640 --> 3:08:39.760 The truth is only they know. 3:08:40.080 --> 3:08:43.920 But I think the real answer is why I was 3:08:45.160 --> 3:08:49.040 the DJ that all these hip hop heavyweights was calling 3:08:49.560 --> 3:08:53.480 was because of soul music. I don't think any of 3:08:53.600 --> 3:08:57.440 them were necessarily like a jay Z, attracted to me 3:08:58.480 --> 3:09:00.360 because of the way I played hip hop. Now, I'd 3:09:00.440 --> 3:09:04.599 like to think I played hip hop just greatly, yes, immaculately, 3:09:05.240 --> 3:09:10.320 But I think what that one special draw was was 3:09:10.720 --> 3:09:13.720 how I played the soul music of the seventies and eighties, 3:09:14.640 --> 3:09:18.680 and that music wasn't how I started. I was a 3:09:18.800 --> 3:09:21.039 hip hop kid, I thought very early on in life. 3:09:22.240 --> 3:09:24.280 I thought that to fully embrace hip hop, you had 3:09:24.280 --> 3:09:27.960 to hate everything else. I thought that to really be 3:09:28.080 --> 3:09:29.720 a part of hip hop, you had to hate. 3:09:29.640 --> 3:09:33.000 Rock and roll and everything else when hip hop is 3:09:33.000 --> 3:09:34.000 sampling all of this. 3:09:34.280 --> 3:09:36.680 And so we talked about Cool Hark, Africa, Bimbad, and 3:09:36.720 --> 3:09:40.200 Grandmaster Flash earlier. And remember when I said, I knew 3:09:40.200 --> 3:09:41.960 what they looked like, but I didn't know about them. 3:09:43.400 --> 3:09:46.760 So once I was a little older in twelve thirteen, fourteen, 3:09:46.959 --> 3:09:51.480 and I learned about them. I learned that they weren't 3:09:51.560 --> 3:09:55.400 playing hip hop music because there was no hip hop music. 3:09:55.520 --> 3:09:59.279 They were creating what became hip hop music through playing 3:09:59.600 --> 3:10:04.040 R and B, soul, funk, disco, rock and roll, Latin music, 3:10:04.160 --> 3:10:08.200 and all kinds of music. And that fascinated me and 3:10:08.360 --> 3:10:10.800 made me want to be this encyclopedia of music. And 3:10:10.959 --> 3:10:13.440 that journey led me to the sole music of the 3:10:13.520 --> 3:10:17.040 seventies and eighties, which in many ways became not what 3:10:17.160 --> 3:10:19.520 I played everywhere for everyone, but in many ways became 3:10:19.600 --> 3:10:20.600 my signature sound. 3:10:20.640 --> 3:10:23.640 Can I say something. I threw a party at my 3:10:23.720 --> 3:10:24.800 house after the B E. T. 3:10:25.000 --> 3:10:30.400 Walls Is it two thousand and seven around and I 3:10:30.480 --> 3:10:33.160 must have had five hundred of my closest friends at 3:10:33.200 --> 3:10:36.480 my house. Well and and I mean name some of 3:10:36.560 --> 3:10:37.360 these closest friends. 3:10:37.720 --> 3:10:39.800 I mean I'm joking the famous people and the most 3:10:40.000 --> 3:10:42.800 the most famous people in the world, like the Who's 3:10:43.520 --> 3:10:46.400 not the B List? Not to C List that AA 3:10:46.800 --> 3:10:51.160 from Barba streisand on down Jesus at the house right. 3:10:51.520 --> 3:10:51.600 So. 3:10:53.320 --> 3:10:54.080 He was the DJ. 3:10:55.760 --> 3:10:58.920 So then no, he it was two thousand, it was 3:10:58.959 --> 3:11:00.640 two thousand and seven, it was it was the beat. 3:11:00.720 --> 3:11:02.640 He was an after party. The party started at two 3:11:02.640 --> 3:11:04.600 o'clock in the morning and it went to ten o'clock 3:11:04.600 --> 3:11:05.039 in the morning. 3:11:06.320 --> 3:11:09.800 Quincy Jones came up to me, who was like a 3:11:09.879 --> 3:11:13.959 father to me. He says, where's Barbara. I'm like, Barbara who? 3:11:14.720 --> 3:11:16.880 And he goes Barbara Streis and I goes, she's here. 3:11:16.959 --> 3:11:18.959 He goes, yeah, she was just over there. 3:11:19.360 --> 3:11:19.800 Let you go. 3:11:21.760 --> 3:11:24.480 No, I mean, it was the craziest thing. 3:11:24.840 --> 3:11:27.200 And again when before he got here, when I talked 3:11:27.200 --> 3:11:31.320 about how he just curates, he had those five hundred people. 3:11:32.640 --> 3:11:34.200 When I'm saying a. 3:11:35.879 --> 3:11:36.400 Lil Wayne. 3:11:36.480 --> 3:11:38.360 That was the day his album came away. 3:11:38.400 --> 3:11:42.360 He scanned over a million units from Lil Wayne on 3:11:42.800 --> 3:11:46.200 down to every major basketball player. I mean, and it 3:11:46.360 --> 3:11:49.119 was he had when I'm saying, that whole fucking house 3:11:49.680 --> 3:11:50.840 in the palm of his hands. 3:11:51.440 --> 3:11:52.600 But I did get him one time. 3:11:53.160 --> 3:11:55.760 Not at two thousand and seven, he says he has 3:11:55.840 --> 3:11:57.119 never been punk before. 3:11:58.760 --> 3:12:02.080 Again, right and again. It took me a month to 3:12:02.160 --> 3:12:02.680 set this up. 3:12:02.800 --> 3:12:07.160 They know the background of your pranks. No, I mean, 3:12:07.200 --> 3:12:08.560 you got to give otherwise it makes this. 3:12:08.760 --> 3:12:13.160 I mean, I'll go into death to get somebody like 3:12:13.720 --> 3:12:18.600 like he's famous for this prank, big expansion, original punk. 3:12:19.320 --> 3:12:19.520 Yeah. 3:12:19.640 --> 3:12:22.400 So remember I before he was here, I said, I 3:12:22.400 --> 3:12:24.560 gave him a record, Dearly Head On Neil McKnight signed 3:12:24.600 --> 3:12:27.000 to his label, and we do this record, and we 3:12:27.080 --> 3:12:30.320 were talking about something where he goes, I'll never be pumped. 3:12:30.840 --> 3:12:31.480 It's like all right. 3:12:31.720 --> 3:12:33.480 So a month later I invite him out to later 3:12:33.520 --> 3:12:40.560 have dinner at my house. I hired ten stompmen to 3:12:40.680 --> 3:12:45.199 come through the glass windows and to kidnap. 3:12:44.959 --> 3:12:48.240 Us, like they were gonna tie us up. 3:12:48.680 --> 3:12:48.800 Right. 3:12:48.959 --> 3:12:52.879 I was gonna spend seventy five thousand dollars to get 3:12:52.920 --> 3:12:56.760 his ass, so I don't, so, you know. 3:12:57.440 --> 3:12:59.720 So we go over to the house, we have some drinks, 3:13:00.080 --> 3:13:02.480 it down for dinner as a chef, and. 3:13:02.920 --> 3:13:07.080 For whatever reason, my head of security and we're literally 3:13:07.200 --> 3:13:11.400 I'm here, he's right there, comes and he goes, I'm 3:13:11.480 --> 3:13:15.000 doing a walk and he dropped a gun right, which 3:13:15.080 --> 3:13:16.280 wasn't part of the prank. 3:13:16.959 --> 3:13:20.240 And he just puts his gun right on the table. 3:13:22.800 --> 3:13:23.480 He passed out. 3:13:27.320 --> 3:13:30.360 I wasn't. He saved me seventy five grand I didn't 3:13:30.400 --> 3:13:30.640 have to. 3:13:30.840 --> 3:13:34.040 Like, never happened. 3:13:36.840 --> 3:13:38.160 Never happened. That was the prank. 3:13:39.800 --> 3:13:42.279 Holy, No, they were literally gonna. 3:13:42.640 --> 3:13:43.360 Was out laughing. 3:13:43.560 --> 3:13:45.800 He couldn't even tell the story for for for a 3:13:45.840 --> 3:13:47.959 half an hour. And he said, I have ten people 3:13:48.000 --> 3:13:49.800 outside for hey to tie us up and kidnapped. 3:13:51.200 --> 3:13:54.080 And this is going to be on the real No, 3:13:54.760 --> 3:13:55.400 this is this. 3:14:01.680 --> 3:14:02.640 No, no, no, not that. 3:14:04.120 --> 3:14:06.520 Holy taking a shot of that. 3:14:09.440 --> 3:14:09.640 Shot. 3:14:09.800 --> 3:14:10.000 Yeah. 3:14:10.400 --> 3:14:15.800 Yeah, by the way, pick up these new monster cups they. 3:14:17.520 --> 3:14:19.640 Monster bro. Definitely. 3:14:21.760 --> 3:14:23.800 I think we did it all right, we did it. 3:14:23.920 --> 3:14:24.840 Yeah, So. 3:14:33.200 --> 3:14:35.280 Let's let's let's let's let's let's talk to the people 3:14:35.400 --> 3:14:35.920 one more time. 3:14:37.560 --> 3:14:39.960 When is the resident start? 3:14:40.480 --> 3:14:41.040 So? D J. 3:14:41.280 --> 3:14:43.680 Cassidy is an excuse this voice. It won't be like 3:14:43.760 --> 3:14:44.320 this In July. 3:14:45.720 --> 3:14:50.560 DJ Cassidy's Past the Mic Live the Iconic Las Vegas 3:14:50.840 --> 3:14:54.720 Residency starring Nightly. 3:14:54.600 --> 3:15:04.200 Hold On starring Nightly Job, Rule That Joke, Slick, Ring 3:15:05.280 --> 3:15:11.840 Doggie Fresh, with special guests, Rape Won, the Chef, Goat's 3:15:11.879 --> 3:15:21.760 Face Killer, Public Enemy Had, Jermaine Duprie, Dabron Too Short, 3:15:22.800 --> 3:15:23.320 Warren g. 3:15:24.360 --> 3:15:26.400 And special surprise guests. 3:15:30.680 --> 3:15:31.400 This July. 3:15:32.600 --> 3:15:35.880 This July at the Back Theater at Planet Hollywood. 3:15:36.080 --> 3:15:40.080 Tickets on sale right now on Ticketmaster and every night 3:15:40.200 --> 3:15:46.880 really is going to be a groundbreaking, trailblazing musical experience 3:15:46.959 --> 3:15:49.440 that we honestly think is going to redefine the Las 3:15:49.560 --> 3:15:50.439 Vegas Residency. 3:15:50.680 --> 3:15:53.000 If you trust my taste in the artist that I 3:15:53.120 --> 3:15:57.440 signed and no, no, but I'm just saying in general 3:15:58.560 --> 3:16:03.840 this show, this show is just as special as every 3:16:03.959 --> 3:16:06.440 artist that I signed. I would not have I would 3:16:06.480 --> 3:16:08.800 not have stick my neck out to Live Nation and 3:16:08.920 --> 3:16:11.120 trond La Feet to say we got to get this 3:16:11.240 --> 3:16:13.119 thing done and shout out to sit at Live Nation. 3:16:18.680 --> 3:16:22.640 By the way, tell them they are to us. We 3:16:22.840 --> 3:16:25.160 risked our life coming out tonight. 3:16:25.120 --> 3:16:31.920 Around swimming an alligator my calmost diggle foul. 3:16:33.360 --> 3:16:36.879 All still let's still still. 3:16:38.720 --> 3:16:56.800 Damn And they said tomorrow even me work, I get me. 3:16:57.320 --> 3:16:58.920 Oh there there, there you go. 3:17:01.120 --> 3:17:01.680 The pictures. 3:17:04.000 --> 3:17:05.600 Why are we taking pictures? 3:17:06.520 --> 3:17:08.480 Sign I come on? The audio might come on. The 3:17:08.560 --> 3:17:15.600 picture your out your mic picture? 3:17:18.720 --> 3:17:23.240 You know norm we get it today. We take youre film. 3:17:24.879 --> 3:17:27.640 By the labious. Let me guess something. 3:17:31.640 --> 3:17:34.640 Oh yeah, I've committed. Once I commit. 3:17:37.240 --> 3:17:37.840 Don't see you. 3:17:38.280 --> 3:17:40.760 I could have a pachuca got the army mine. 3:17:41.160 --> 3:17:42.480 Yeah, they just get some pictures with you. 3:17:43.520 --> 3:17:46.520 Yeah, and then you're gonna have to do dry hands. 3:17:49.080 --> 3:17:49.680 I can't believe that. 3:17:49.760 --> 3:17:50.960 The work. 3:17:55.360 --> 3:18:02.840 I thought we're going into the sun break. You want 3:18:02.840 --> 3:18:07.120 your hard up the legacy. Let me take some pictures. 3:18:07.320 --> 3:18:07.959 Drink yeah. 3:18:09.400 --> 3:18:17.800 Right here, Yeah, gonna stop. It's not sound. 3:18:19.240 --> 3:18:25.760 The ring so when it got dar it's boldy. 3:18:27.320 --> 3:18:37.160 That That's why I'm going to the gun draw No. 3:18:37.440 --> 3:18:41.959 Yo yo cha, I got a rock. 3:18:44.240 --> 3:18:44.760 You guys. 3:18:50.200 --> 3:18:53.560 Drink Champs is a Drink Champs ll C production hosts 3:18:53.600 --> 3:18:55.280 and executive producers N O. 3:18:55.480 --> 3:18:56.680 R E and d J. E. 3:18:56.920 --> 3:18:57.160 F N. 3:18:58.360 --> 3:19:02.480 Listen to Drink Champs on Apple, pot, podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, 3:19:02.760 --> 3:19:06.400 or wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us 3:19:06.440 --> 3:19:09.040 for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by Yours Truly, 3:19:09.200 --> 3:19:11.920 dj e FN and n O r E. 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