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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. Paul

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Speaker 1: Pierce went viral for said he's the best pure score.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I mean, name come to mind,

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Speaker 1: and like maybe Kobe Hard Jordan KD.

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Speaker 2: Not said that he was a hell of a score. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and people was my guy. I mean, he's my guy.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: We came out to drive together in ninety eight from

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Speaker 2: the lockout year. We worked out together Inglewood High School

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Speaker 2: every single day. Like that's my guy. But he said

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Speaker 2: some crazy stuff, you know. But nah, I mean I'm

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Speaker 2: taking away like like I always say, just because Bron's great,

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Speaker 2: don't mean Katy.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't isn't great, because it isn't like, yeah, Peep was

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Speaker 4: a great score. Right footwork, post on the elbows, catching,

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Speaker 4: shoot threes off. He could do it all.

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Speaker 2: So he's not lying about that, you know. So he

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Speaker 2: gets a lot of you know, but he could definitely score.

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Speaker 2: But like you said, when you you know, say KD

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Speaker 2: and you know Cob and Georgia, I got your feet

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Speaker 2: the line more than him, Yes, but I love it.

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Speaker 4: That's why he is who he is because hit the

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Speaker 4: confidence he had right know what I'm saying, That's why

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Speaker 4: he is who he is, So what was it?

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Speaker 1: Because I remember the last time Lebron was in Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: you guys beat him, and he had a monster game.

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Speaker 1: I think he had twenty seven, nineteen and twelve. That

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Speaker 1: game six, y'all end up beating before he went to Miami.

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Speaker 1: Proud of that, I mean, but proud of you know,

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Speaker 1: you guys getting KG and Ray Allen. You know, it

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Speaker 1: was more he I think he beat you guys a

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Speaker 1: little bit more than you guys beat him. But when

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Speaker 1: he goes to Miami and that year, y'all got him,

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Speaker 1: and I remember KG said it's over y'all beat him.

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Speaker 1: Y'all beat him in game five in Miami, you're up

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Speaker 1: three to two. KG said it's over it. We ain't

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Speaker 1: coming back down here. And then Lebron in game six

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Speaker 1: that everybody says, that's the greatest game he's ever played.

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Speaker 1: Did you did you get a sense? I mean, how soon,

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Speaker 1: how early in the game did you know for we

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Speaker 1: we got, we got, we're in for it?

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Speaker 2: I know, I mean I started looking in his eyes,

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Speaker 2: you know, when he first stood on the floor, and

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Speaker 2: just his mentality to start the game, how aggressive he was,

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Speaker 2: and we were always scared and Doc was always scared

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Speaker 2: to like trapping double teaming, right because of his past,

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Speaker 2: and so he figured that, Like I figured, it's like

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Speaker 2: he's gonna get everybody's involved, and now everybody's gonna get going.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna get his anyway. But we didn't think he's

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Speaker 2: gonna get forty five, right, and like that game when

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Speaker 2: he's what he's able to do that game like that,

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Speaker 2: that's what really took him to the next level, Like

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Speaker 2: forty five, go to Miami, game seven, win Game seven,

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Speaker 2: and then you know, to move on, Like, but that

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Speaker 2: game was, Man, I still have night messes about that.

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Speaker 1: What was was Miami heat Lebron? What that's the best

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Speaker 1: Lebron we've ever seen?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think twenty eighteen Broun.

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Speaker 4: The year we went to the finals when Kyrie was going.

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Speaker 1: Kyrie was gone the way the way he put in,

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Speaker 1: y'all go to Boston and that game seven and y'all

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Speaker 1: beat Toronto, y'all beat Toronto, y'all beat Indiana. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: he had what like eight forty point games in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: He had that fifty one against Golden State. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: was just in Miami. He was extremely efficient efficient. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you talked about somebody shooting fifty five fifty six perield.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 2: He was super efficient in Miami. But I ain't get

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Speaker 2: a chance to watch it like I wanted to. You know,

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Speaker 2: of course, you can't see every game, but what he

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Speaker 2: did in Cleveland, you know, you get.

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Speaker 1: Him back, he comes back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that stretch he did have in Cleveland, I think

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Speaker 4: that was so.

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Speaker 1: You think you think the second the second, the return

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Speaker 1: to Cleveland might have been his best lebron Yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 1: I can't say I disagree.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the year.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen, the sixteen seventeen season, we went back to the final,

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Speaker 2: we played against Katie for the first time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like that season right there, I think was one of

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Speaker 2: the best seasons, like you said, they's ever had. And

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Speaker 2: then I can't remember who that playoffs was. The playoff

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Speaker 2: run he had that might have been the best playoff

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Speaker 2: run eighteen. That was eighteen. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, we had

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Speaker 2: a here. I think he had eight forty point games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you guys end up y'all swept Toronto, who

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Speaker 1: was the number one seed at the time, and then

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Speaker 1: you go on the road in Game seven.

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Speaker 4: And Boston gave all forty eight minutes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that period at fifteen and eighteen, I think that

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Speaker 2: might have been his best basketball ever played.

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Speaker 1: People always you know, and you get this a lot,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure you've heard it. He wouldn't have done

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Speaker 1: that if he played the nineties, he wouldn't have done that.

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Speaker 1: And he played in the eighties, he couldn't have played

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Speaker 1: back run. The dude got Karl Malone's body. He can

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Speaker 1: have on the ball like magic. He got Karl alone body.

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Speaker 1: He's more athletic, who's been that kind of athleticism that

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Speaker 1: can do all the things that he can do.

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Speaker 4: I mean, ask you, I mean I played in the nineties.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't so like I said, Lebron James can't play

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Speaker 4: in the nineties, Like come on, man, like.

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Speaker 2: What we're talking about, Like it don't even makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Like if you're great, I don't care where are you playing,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Great, right and it is what it is coaching the Clippers,

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Speaker 1: So you're not you're at the Clippers. You no, I

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Speaker 1: would have got this. I'm gonna talk about the h

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Speaker 1: the Cavaliers situation because when David Black, he gets you

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Speaker 1: were in line to get the job. You were supposed

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Speaker 1: to get the job.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we interviewed the same time for the job,

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Speaker 2: and my agent called me is like, you know, Dan

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Speaker 2: Gilbert decided that you wanted to go with you know,

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Speaker 2: David Black, But I got a crazy thing to tell you.

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Speaker 4: They want you to be associate head coach.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, no, Like I'm cool, Like, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm stay here with Doc because I figure like if

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Speaker 2: I'm a Doc, who's the best coach in the league.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm gonna at a job next year, I'm just coming,

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Speaker 2: you know. So I'm not gonna leave Doc. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: be loyal to Doc. And he said, but you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: believe how much money offered you. And I was like,

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Speaker 2: well what they offered, say, want to offer your million

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Speaker 2: dollars a year to be the sociate head coach And

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Speaker 2: at the time, I'm making three seventy five with the Clippers.

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Speaker 4: Dude, I don't think I think I could do that.

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Speaker 4: Well Noah, I still said no.

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Speaker 1: I said no. Yeah. I was like even in California.

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Speaker 1: I was like can you.

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Speaker 4: And so I was like, man like, no, I ain't

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Speaker 4: doing i' gonna stay with Doc. It's like you sure like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I can't do it.

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Speaker 2: So he came back an hour later said they said

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Speaker 2: I was like, nah, man, like I'm gonna stay with Doc.

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Speaker 4: I ain't gonna do that, like I'm gonna be loyal

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Speaker 4: to Doc. So I called you know, b Shaw. I

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Speaker 4: was like b shaw. He said, what you man, you

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Speaker 4: gotta you you gotta take your job. I said, man,

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Speaker 4: I ain't doing it. And then so I called Jerry

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Speaker 1: You mother you?

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Speaker 2: What are you thinking? If you don't take this job,

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Speaker 2: I'll never give you another job ever again. Think you

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Speaker 2: can't leave Doc's umbrella whatever other. So I was like, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm not doing it, and so he's like going crazy.

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Speaker 2: So my agent called back again. He said like, they said,

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Speaker 2: well what do you want? I said, well just tell

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Speaker 2: back said they said yes, you're like yeah, I say yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I was like I got a good doc.

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Speaker 2: So I called Doc and Doc was like you know what,

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Speaker 2: time Like, it's gonna be hard for us to match that,

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Speaker 2: he said, but I think you're ready to like leave

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Speaker 2: my umbrella and like, you know, and do your own thing.

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Speaker 4: I think it'd be good for you. And I was

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Speaker 4: like you sure.

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Speaker 2: He's like, man, I think it'd be really good for you.

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of how it happened. I ended up

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Speaker 2: going to Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: So now, okay, you on the bench that first year,

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Speaker 1: y'all go to the NBA Finals, you lose to the

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Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors, and six halfway through the season, they

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Speaker 1: make a change. You get elevated. Now, being a head

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Speaker 1: coach is one thing. When you're the head coach and

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Speaker 1: now you're coaching the best player in the NBA, that's

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Speaker 1: something entirely different to Loo. Yeah, it is you and Lebron.

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Speaker 1: What type of relationship did you have with Lebron before

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Speaker 2: So I had a relationship with Lebron, Rich and Mad

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Speaker 2: we always been cool and tight. So like we always

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Speaker 2: Like that's this family. So you know, when I took over,

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Speaker 2: like I said, I was scared because you know, anybody

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Speaker 2: done that. You know, like especially on that social media,

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Speaker 1: And now you got it. Okay, what you do? You

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly, you know, And.

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Speaker 2: So moving over six inches, you know, it's tough, and

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Speaker 2: lose no Kevin Love, no Kyrie, and now you want

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Speaker 2: to replaced coach Black who done a hell of a job.

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Speaker 2: And if we don't make it to the finals and

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Speaker 2: you know. So that was it was scary and I

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Speaker 2: don't even know if I could do it, because like

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Speaker 2: you're coming through halfway through the season, you haven't really

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Speaker 2: had a training camp, you haven't implemented what.

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Speaker 4: You want to rule you want to. You got to

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Speaker 4: stick to what and you got the best player in

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Speaker 4: the world, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: And so it was, it was it was tough, you know,

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Speaker 2: back one hundred percent. Like whatever you want to do,

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Speaker 1: But the natural thing is like man, t lou undermine

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Speaker 4: That's not my personality. And I believe it will come

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Speaker 1: So what was it about Coach Black with his message

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Speaker 2: It's a different dynamic. And so just understand that dynamic

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, You just can't.

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Speaker 2: And like his offensive system like was great, like I was,

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Speaker 4: Kevin Love is not a.

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Speaker 2: And so it was just the offense they ran over

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Speaker 4: So that was it.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember who y'all played? First? Play the Bulls?

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Speaker 4: I don't even remember.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, I got tough skins, Like

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Speaker 1: I deserve to get cred. Y'all lost ninety six to

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Speaker 4: Okay, but.

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you understand what you did? They fired

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Speaker 1: three games were on the road. How do you lie

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Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is that I really, I swear

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Speaker 2: to God, thought that we can win. Like even we

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Speaker 1: Could what you had just lost? You it just went

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Speaker 2: But I'm saying we lost the two first the two

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Speaker 2: win game three, Yes, we should have won Game four.

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Speaker 4: DV was like, man, what the hell is he doing?

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Speaker 4: Like why he said, listen, just trust me, you know

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Speaker 4: You know, you don't want to beat the exactly, so

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Speaker 2: And so it worked like Jayon Srump locked in and

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Speaker 2: You gotta love your chance. So that's you know, kind

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Speaker 1: Was it ever a situation that you had, like because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, halftime in game seven. You halftime in game seven,

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Speaker 4: Man? What you mean? So you gotta do more? Like

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Speaker 1: Like what you want me to do?

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Speaker 2: T Lou, I'm like, because he had twenty points and

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Speaker 2: I said, you gotta guard Dramond, better score the basketball,

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Speaker 4: Lou Man? Call me all like that, that's some boy

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Speaker 4: Why not trust him?

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Speaker 2: He's like, if you you know, you go to James Jones, James,

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Speaker 4: Did he lie? So then Bron snatched his step out

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Speaker 2: He blocked that, yeah, and dance right, And so we

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00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,040
Speaker 2: called time out and the thing about bron was exhausted,

440
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,879
Speaker 2: and so we get to the bench. I mean, he's like,

441
00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,320
Speaker 2: he's done. So I'm like, you know, it's time.

442
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 4: Of dance, you know what I'm saying. So we want

443
00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:18,680
Speaker 4: to run pick and roll, you know what I'm saying.

444
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,000
Speaker 2: Because Clay was a great defender and like said Steph,

445
00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,800
Speaker 2: you know towards that now, defensive wise, like he took

446
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,840
Speaker 2: a huge step and take pride in garden, you know now.

447
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,880
Speaker 2: And so they had no weak links. You didn't want Dramond,

448
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,920
Speaker 2: you didn't want Ego Dollar, you didn't want Clay. So

449
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,199
Speaker 2: I was like, but we got to try to get

450
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,919
Speaker 2: step in action, you know. So you know, we run

451
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,119
Speaker 2: a pick and roll. You know, Kyrie gets to switch.

452
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,360
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna shore three, you know what I'm saying.

453
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,640
Speaker 1: And so but that's that's that's the shot side stept.

454
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 2: So he gets to that right wing he said, dancing

455
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,680
Speaker 2: and he shoots it, and like, man, like from that

456
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 2: point on, I was just blacked out, you know what

457
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:55,360
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

458
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 4: Like, once he made that shot, I like blacked out,

459
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 4: Like I remember kay.

460
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Speaker 1: Love like.

461
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 2: Guard step yeah, guarded Steph. And I remember it was

462
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,680
Speaker 2: at the end of the game we were up three

463
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 2: four Yeah, bron gets fouled. We up four and they

464
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,719
Speaker 2: and it was two things that we worked on. They

465
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 2: ran two kneed three plays for shots, and so the

466
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 2: whole series before we got to the series leading up

467
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 2: to it and the series, I was like, listen, we're

468
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 2: gonna work on these atos, but on their kneed three plays,

469
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 2: guys are gonna be in different positions. So every day

470
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 2: we worked on their need three plays. I said, it's

471
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 2: gonna come a time we're gonna need it. So like

472
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 2: Kyrie and man, are we doing this again? Like because

473
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 2: all the games will blowout. It wasn't no close games

474
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Speaker 2: till Game seven, right, and so we never had to

475
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 2: use it. And so we worked on it every day.

476
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 4: On this play, Kyrie, you guard this guy, Tristan, you

477
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 4: guarding this guy Bron you here on this play when

478
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:50,959
Speaker 4: they do it, now you guarding over here.

479
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 2: Like, So we had guys in different spots. So when

480
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 2: Draymond goes to take the ball out of bounds, you

481
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 2: see it. He's like, man, what the because the matches

482
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,919
Speaker 2: was crazy, but we knew how we wanted to switch right.

483
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 2: We got a deflection, so the ball goes out of bounds.

484
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 2: So they called the second play. They run at O

485
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 2: wise for knee three and guys go to different matchups,

486
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,640
Speaker 2: and Dymond was like, man, what the Like it messed

487
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 2: them toe. So then we win the game.

488
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 4: So that next day like see, that's why we work

489
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 4: He said, man, you was right, And we worked on

490
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 4: it for set like eight days before the series started,

491
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 4: and then every every day we worked on a knee

492
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 4: three and they talked trash to me, Man, we ain't

493
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 4: gonna never use this, it's stupid, And then end of

494
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 4: the game we needed it.

495
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 1: How are you able to earn the players trust in

496
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 1: Cleveland so quickly?

497
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 2: I would say, being around of players I coach and

498
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 2: play with, I think that's one. I think winning I

499
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 2: think with something, and then I think just having a

500
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 2: relationship with braun like. I think having a relationship with

501
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 2: Bron really just hit the tone for everybody else. And

502
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 2: I had a relationship with Jr. You know when they

503
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 2: first came in the league. You know, he used to

504
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 2: come and work out us with us in Vegas, and

505
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 2: so I knew Jr. But the other guys I didn't know,

506
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 2: like you said, But having brons respect and having the

507
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 2: friendship le Bron, that really helped me earn the respect

508
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 2: to everybody else in the locker room.

509
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: You're the first NBA You're the first coach in the

510
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 1: NBA history that when it first post ten postseason game,

511
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: you know that. Yeah, I don't think they're gonna be broken.

512
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: Somebody almost broken recently. They did almost were You're good.

513
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: They got to start over again.

514
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 4: Somebody almost broke it first year. I can't remember what

515
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 4: it was. Was it, Let's see, was it Missoula? Did

516
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 4: they go it's yeah, you might be right. Yeah, I

517
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 4: think he broken. The guy closer tired us.

518
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 1: I don't know.

519
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 4: I mean, it was right there. I know I know

520
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 4: that happened.

521
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: I read the story that you're uh, is this true

522
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 1: about the money that you put up in the ceiland

523
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: or you made that up?

524
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 4: True?

525
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: You knew that you knew after winning Game five that

526
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: you guys were coming back for game seven because you

527
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 1: didn't feel there was no way they could beat you

528
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: in game six in your building.

529
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 4: I didn't think so.

530
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 2: And so after game five, our owners and you know,

531
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 2: front office, they are in the locker room. Everybody's going crazy,

532
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: we hype whatever. So I walk in the locker room.

533
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 2: I said, all right, everybody give me two hundred dollars.

534
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 4: It's like what it was like.

535
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: Everybody give me two hundred dollars. I'm gonna put it

536
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: in the ceiling and we're coming back to game seven

537
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: and get our money. And said, oh yeah, they going crazy.

538
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 2: So everybody gives two hundred, two hundred, the owner, Dan, Gilbert,

539
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: Nate four, they all give money, put it up in

540
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: the ceiling. But I got it from Doc because Doc

541
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: did it. We played the Lakers in La Christmas Day

542
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: and they blew us out, and Doc said, listen, y'all

543
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 2: remember this, remember how it feels. Because we're gonna play

544
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 2: them in the NBA Finals and we come back to

545
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 2: get our money and we put it hid in the attic,

546
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: I mean in the ceiling.

547
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 4: Came back and it was there, and Doc passed the

548
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 4: money out. The only difference with me, I kept, I'm gonna.

549
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: Tell you how crazy Bron is, how tight he is.

550
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 1: So we win the championship.

551
00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 3: We just won.

552
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 4: Man, they in the block, they spread champagne Bron, Man,

553
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 4: what a two hundred?

554
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: That?

555
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 3: Like?

556
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 4: Come on, man, we just want to you won about two.

557
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 4: I said, Man, I think this ball boy stolen, not

558
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 4: no more.

559
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

560
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 4: So I kept that I deserved it. I deserved it, man,

561
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 4: Bron two hundred, he wanted it. I wasn't giving it back.

562
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: They've been whispers about Lebron possibly returning to Cleveland. Do

563
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: you think he's going to return to Cleveland? Before you

564
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: answered that, are you surprised? This is the first time

565
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: in Lebron's career Lebron James is on the expiring contract.

566
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 4: I'm surprised about that. I mean, I mean, look, this

567
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 4: is a player that like.

568
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: He's, he gave you twenty four, eight and seven last year,

569
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: and he's.

570
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 2: Changed the game like he's. He's made it to where

571
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 2: these guys were able to go to whatever teams they

572
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: want to go. Yes, and like you said, build, build

573
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 2: their careers and do like he was the one that

574
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: first step, yes, you know, and so he took all

575
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 2: the heat, all the heat, you know, to get to

576
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: this point where now you see everybody's doing it, you know,

577
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: and he paved that way.

578
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: Yet, you know.

579
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 2: So I think if he's on an expiring contract, I

580
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: think it's something he wants. I don't think that, you know,

581
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 2: like the Laker said, we really gonna give you your

582
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 2: finish this year out and that's it. I think that

583
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 2: if he's on a one year contract, that's where he

584
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 2: wants to be going back to Cleveland.

585
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, Like, can you see it?

586
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I mean, I don't. I don't know.

587
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: You went to LA. You've done everything you can do

588
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, right, I think you finish it up in LA.

589
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how much longer, how much longer they

590
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: want him in LA. But I think the thing else

591
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: he finishes up in LA. I don't think he's done

592
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: after this year. No, I don't think he's done. I don't.

593
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: And the thing is t I was telling I was

594
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: talking to somebody else to day, I said, if you

595
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: play twenty four, you might as well go and get

596
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: that twenty five.

597
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not done this year for sure, but.

598
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: I think he wants to sit in that record there.

599
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: He wants to sit in that record. There ain't nobody

600
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: gonna get it. They can't catch it because KD. He

601
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,959
Speaker 1: thinks KD is the closest. But KD is ten thousand

602
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: points away. That's ten thousand so if you average, that's

603
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: another seven eight years, that's right now. Yeah, Lebron plays

604
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: another two three years. I think's gonna be a forty

605
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: five thousand point.

606
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 4: I mean, it's gonna be hard to catch that because.

607
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: You have to play a lot, you have to play,

608
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: you have to have sustained greatness. Well because nobody thought

609
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: Kareem and hell they're healthy, and hell because nobody thought Kareem,

610
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: the record would be broken because first of all, only

611
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: Biggs played that long exactly. And then you could play

612
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: that long if you're big, because I guess what, you

613
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: go down to the block, they dumb it down, tell

614
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: you you ain't try to get up and down the court.

615
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 4: Like an eight nine ten points.

616
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. When you get that old,

617
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: it's a big Yeah. Like the are great bigs when

618
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: they played, you know, past their prime. Yeah, they have

619
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 2: eight nine ten points. Bron happened twenty five.

620
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, like.

621
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: So, I mean, I think he's gonna put it out

622
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: of reach where it's gonna be hard to it's gonna

623
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: be hard to get there.

624
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: But he was working at the court. I saw that.

625
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: You know, he post the video. He's working at the

626
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: clip of facilities.

627
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I see now, yeah, I saw that. What

628
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 4: that means, I didn't know if I can speak on nothing.

629
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,239
Speaker 1: You gave him the key.

630
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's working out at the old practical facility. Yeah,

631
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: the one that we had implying, So yeah, put that

632
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: out there. The one applier he went at facility. You

633
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I can't say nothing about that.

634
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: Had Lebron and Kyrie stayed together, they won another championship.

635
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, yes, sir. And I think I also think

636
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 2: if KD doesn't go to Golden State, but they.

637
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: Had to get him. They had to get him. They

638
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: were never gonna beat you guys to gain.

639
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 2: T Yeah, if KD doesn't go to Golden State, I

640
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: think we win three in a row, and I think

641
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: Kyrie stayed because you can't leave after that, right, you

642
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

643
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 4: And so I think he stays. And I think, like

644
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 4: I said, we could, we had a chance to win

645
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 4: two or three.

646
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: Is there anything you could have done differently to maybe

647
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: keep Kyrie and Lebron together? Or has Kyrie made his

648
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: mind up that he wanted to go elsewhere?

649
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: He had made his mind up. But that's like another

650
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: Kobe and shacksage. I would never let it happen, right like,

651
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 2: and I begged complete it. I begged complete it, you know.

652
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: Coche Lebron said, he begged please say hey, don't trade him.

653
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: He still got a year on his contract, don't trade him.

654
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: Bron was doing an autograph signing with jerseys and stuff

655
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: for his foundation. So I come sit next to Bron.

656
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: We're sitting there handling the phone Sports Center. Kyrie Everans

657
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: just been traded to the Boston Celtics man. Bron dropped

658
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: the marker drop and just lays back in his chair

659
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: for about ten minutes, doesn't say a word, like just

660
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: pissed off. And Bron was crushed. And I saw when

661
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: that happened. I thought things would like I thought Bron

662
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: would would do something different, you know, sooner or later, and.

663
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 4: That's what he did.

664
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: So you don't you believe Lebron would have stayed in

665
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: Cleveland had Kyrie staateing us?

666
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 4: I think so.

667
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: Damn. I mean you've seen breakups. You were there, I

668
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: mean you you weren't there at the time, but cobD

669
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: and Shack, you saw Blake and CP three, you saw

670
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: Lebron and Kyrie. If somebody would have told you in

671
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: the beginning how well it was working, that this was

672
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: going to be the ultimate outcome, would you have believed it?

673
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: As far as what them them partying ways, all those guys, Yeah.

674
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: No, no, I mean I couldn't see it, you know,

675
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: the way it happened, you know, especially like said Covid

676
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: Shack being in it every single day in the locker room,

677
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: like because it had too many great guys around them,

678
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: like you had a lot of great buffers, you know,

679
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: like Rick Fox, Robert Already, b Shaw, Harp, like they

680
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: were old enough to like understand likes what was the

681
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: stake and understand.

682
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 4: Like something special, Yeah, something.

683
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: Special, And so they would never let it come to

684
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 2: where it came to, you know, So that was tough.

685
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: And then you know, I think Kyrie his biggest thing

686
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: is like because he's a competitor. Yeah, he's a killer,

687
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: and so he wanted to show kind of like Kobe

688
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: did you know, that's his mentor Yeah, I want I

689
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: could win, you know, without Broun and for me to

690
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: take that next step, this is what I gotta do.

691
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: And so to have his own team and to do

692
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: that like that was his That was his goal, and

693
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: that's what he wanted to do. So I don't think

694
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: it was nothing though ill will against Brown. It was

695
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: just something he wanted to do for his career.

696
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: KD. He starts outing and OKC goes to Golden State,

697
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: wins two or three, goes to Brooklyn Leeds, Brooklyn goes

698
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: to Phoenix. Now he's in Houston. How different are we

699
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: looking at KD if he doesn't go to the Warriors.

700
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: As far as if you want or not, Yeah, I

701
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: mean I think the only difference would be if you

702
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: want an OKC, and which they could have. They could

703
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: have easily done that too, you know, So I mean

704
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: I wouldn't look at him different.

705
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 4: You know, I think a lot of great players like

706
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 4: they think, you know, you have to win a championship,

707
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 4: to be you know, to be on this tier.

708
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's the media. We've done that because we

709
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: say you're bump. We say you're not any good. We

710
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: don't say your bump, but we say you're not any good.

711
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: Or they put who's the greatest NBA player that's never

712
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: won a championship? So rings are everything. Now we'll take

713
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: a guy that's averaging ten points and put him above

714
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: somebody that's historically great because he has a ring.

715
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: And Katy's one of the best players of all time

716
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: all time. Yeah, So like it's just it's just, you know,

717
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: everybody doesn't win, you know, so.

718
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: And they shouldn't exactly. No, No, what's the what's the

719
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: value of it? What's the value of a championship if

720
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: every great player won it?

721
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: But you know, he goes to Golden State and went,

722
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: oh where he went to Golden State? But what you

723
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: ain't gonna do if he don't win, you're gonna say

724
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: he didn't criticize it. Goes and wins, it's criticized as well.

725
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: It's just not fair, you know.

726
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: And so.

727
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 4: I mean, what else can you say?

728
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: He's a bad he's a bad dude, whether he won

729
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: a championship or not won a championship or whatever, Like,

730
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: he's one of the best greatest players to play this game.

731
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: And so what did you guys need when he goes

732
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: to the war if he when he goes to the Warriors,

733
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: what did Cleveland need to combat that? Because I don't believe.

734
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: I don't believe with IKD. I believe with IKD they're

735
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: not gonna beat you again. Yeah, after you beat them

736
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: at twenty sixteen, coming back from three to one, I

737
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: don't believe they can beat you again.

738
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: I think we had the blueprint on how to beat them.

739
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: Like Steve kerris a masterminds, so he probably figure something out.

740
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: But I thought we had the blueprint. But for us,

741
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: probably I would say, like a dominant center, like a.

742
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: Guy you can throw the ball to up and down

743
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 1: to him and punish inside.

744
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Draymond's not helping all over the place. And

745
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: because Trician was a you know, a really good player,

746
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: but like offensively being able just to throw the ball,

747
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: post the basketball and and make plays because k Love

748
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: played more of the force, right, But I think a

749
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: bigger center that can you know, can protect the rim

750
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: could be dominant on the block. I think that would

751
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: have helped us out a lot. But it was just

752
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: when they got KD.

753
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: Like you.

754
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: With Steph Draymond's the best pocket, catch the ball in

755
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: the pocket. And now you got Clay instead, I mean

756
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: Clay and KD sitting in the court like I mean,

757
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: I mean eagle Dollard.

758
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 4: For the lob. Clay in his corner, KD in his corner,

759
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 4: like what you're gonna do?

760
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: And you still you still worried about step Yeah, like

761
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: it just it was unfair that last year you guys

762
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: had d Rolls, you guys had uh d Wade and

763
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: it just didn't. It just didn't. It wasn't working. It

764
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: wasn't working. Why wasn't it working?

765
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: I think d Wade and let's said d ro you know,

766
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: coming down towards the end of they could but de

767
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: Rosie not playing a lot longer than he thought he

768
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: was gonna play. But you have, like I said, great players.

769
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: You know, d Rose one of my favorite players like

770
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: to play the game. And then d Wade you know

771
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: as well. And then were they being able to do

772
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: with other teams and then comes to Cleveland Lebron, I

773
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: think like Bron gave him the leeway to do whatever

774
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: they want. But I just think just trying to figure

775
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: it out playing with each other, the spacing, the shooting,

776
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: you know, all those components play the factor and it

777
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: just wasn't a good fit. Like it wasn't they could

778
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: still play, it just wasn't a good fit, you know,

779
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: basketball wise, And that's just kind of like how it

780
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: didn't work. And but if I had a little bit

781
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: more time, I would have been able to figure it out,

782
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: you know. But it's just like it just didn't fit

783
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: the style that we wanted to play or had the

784
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 2: player need to play.

785
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 4: It just didn't fit.

786
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: Adam Silver says he's changing the All Star Game. It's

787
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: becoming watcha with tlu. It ain't number threes, it ain't

788
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: number threes and dunks. And that ain't way man, nobody

789
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: bro I grew up on the All Star Game they played.

790
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: I ain't saying you gotta play it like it's a

791
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: Game seven. I ain't saying you got to play it

792
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: like a playoff game. But this is unacceptable. So they've

793
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: changed the format. Uh, it's the US worst of the world,

794
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: is it. Yeah, So your kitch. Luca Jannis embiid Shaye

795
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: gonna be Steph Katie lebron book. Yeah, and what's the

796
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: if they win? Then what na we want to We

797
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: want to see some action. We don't want to see

798
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: the man we always had a two hundred somebody almost

799
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: scored two hundred points in the All Star Game.

800
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But it's like in baseball,

801
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 4: if you win, like you know.

802
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: Well, that's what you should diad. We should have go

803
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: back to the East West and the winning side get

804
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: home court banded. No matter what the record is, whoever

805
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: wins the All Star Game gets the home courterbanded. Then

806
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: you'll start playing because this, come on joking shooting seventy threes.

807
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, man, I don't whatever.

808
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: I mean.

809
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 4: However, Adams was gonna fix it.

810
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: It's gonna be great because, like I said, he he

811
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: makes sure he doesn't you know, he does a great job.

812
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 4: So I believe in him.

813
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: It's been a while since we had an American boy

814
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: MVP T Lou It's been a minute. I mean, Yoki's

815
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: got three, Giannis has got two, and Be's got one.

816
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: Now we got shape, maybe not as a hole a hole,

817
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: but are is the world catching up with us as

818
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: far as basketball, like, not overall, because each player is

819
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: from a different it's from a different country. Yeah, but

820
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: they are getting better.

821
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're getting better.

822
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you know it ain't a four gonna concluding

823
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: twenty eight. Now, you do realize that, right because thank

824
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: but what it took T Lou. It took herculean effort.

825
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: T Lou. Now, T Lou, I mean it took.

826
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 4: Took the basketball still comes through here, T Lou.

827
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: It took Lebron, it took KD, and it took steph.

828
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 4: Okay, that's why we the best.

829
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be there at twenty eight.

830
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 4: How many Amy Peace Brown got both? I mean KD

831
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 4: got one, Step two.

832
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: You try to have you try to have them around

833
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: for twenty and for twenty eight.

834
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: Now I'm just saying, I'm just saying, like that's why

835
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: we the best players in the world. I mean they

836
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: have like Joker like they have great players too. What

837
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 2: I'm saying is they're not gonna be able to catch

838
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: us because it's one or two guys in each country, right,

839
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: like we were one place, right and we have all

840
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: the talent, we have all the skill, we have all

841
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 2: the athleticism.

842
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 4: But I said they are. They are really good.

843
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: I mean they're great because they're playing. Because the thing

844
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: is TLU is that the Germans they've been playing together

845
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: their whole life, right, the Slovenians, the Serbians, the Lithuanians, Australians,

846
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: they've connect they've been playing together ten years old.

847
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, we come.

848
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: Together for two weeks, come to Thaga for two week practice,

849
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: then we go to somebody to do play like three

850
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: exhibitions and then they go play.

851
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: Right now, I do think weinby oh Wemby, I think,

852
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: but I don't know, man, I just yeah, we No,

853
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 2: we're the greatest.

854
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: You got We got this at twenty eight.

855
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, yeah, for sure.

856
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check out the game now.

857
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: If you can rewind the tape in three years and say,

858
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: you know what, but Noah, we know we're gonna win.

859
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 1: You were on the staff at the Clippers when Shaye

860
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: was there. No, you were there. I was in.

861
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 4: When Shae got there.

862
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: I was he was still in clipping Cleveland.

863
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was in Cleveland. Yeah.

864
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: Doc said he pleaded with them, says, look, this guy

865
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: gonna be special. Don't trade him. But to appease Kawhi.

866
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: You had to because Kawhi is like, I ain't got time.

867
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: I need somebody that's proven. PG was proven, he's been

868
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: an all NBA player, can play both ends of the court.

869
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: But watching him, I mean watching Shae, did you know

870
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: Shane was gonna be this?

871
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 4: No? No, I didn't, And we talked about it all

872
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 4: the time, and.

873
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: You know, thirty gms or presidents or whatever, even like

874
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: like if it would have been done all over again,

875
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: I mean I'd have done the trade too, yes, Like

876
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: PG was second in NBP vote, Yes, like two way player,

877
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: Like it was like Jordan Pippen, you know what I'm saying,

878
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: and Shane like said he was a really good, you know,

879
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: young player, but you know he's gonna be this, right,

880
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: you know.

881
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 4: And I think it was the best thing for Shae

882
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 4: because Shane was stayed with the Clippers.

883
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: He wouldn't be Yeah, he wouldn't have been exactly, and

884
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: so he was able to grow and figured out.

885
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 4: Have his own team.

886
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: Yes, And like I mean anything hindside twenty twenty, you

887
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: can say, oh, I would have never done that, but

888
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 2: who wouldn't have traded, you know, a first year player

889
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: for a guy like PG, you know, to team up

890
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: with Kawhi, like anybody would have done that. They lied,

891
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: they said they wouldn't have you know, so now shave

892
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: with Shane now, like, yeah, don't you don't. It's not

893
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: it's not a question. But that was that was ann

894
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: than me.

895
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: Did you try did you try to get did you

896
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: guys try to trade for Paul George when you was

897
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: in Cleveland? Yeah, when he was in Indiana and and

898
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: why didn't happen?

899
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: I don't remember?

900
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: Damn.

901
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, we try to get.

902
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: Him, PG, Lebron and Kyrie. Then I see that might

903
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: have been enough. That might have been enough to to

904
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: come back. Yeah yeah, yeah, because you because now you

905
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: can throw Lebron. I mean obviously you let PG start

906
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: with him, and then you can have Lebron. But you

907
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: still got guys. Now you got three guys that can

908
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: really score the basketball. Yeah, Lebron, Kyrie and and uh PG.

909
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, so that about man, we tried, Damn.

910
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: You you gotta answer me this. This is what I

911
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: want to know, the bubblem, because this is what I got.

912
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 4: Man.

913
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: The Clippers didn't even want to be there, Okay, they

914
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: wanted to be there when they got the three one lead.

915
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: There was they law, they didn't want to be that.

916
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, am I am? I wrong? Uh So?

917
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: And so tell er explain to the people that was

918
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: in the bubble, because I see a lot of people

919
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: that didn't win try to undermine it. I think, who's

920
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: that that says something the other day about it? Jim?

921
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: Was it David Griffin? No, the one that the one

922
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: at Philly Maury. Yeah, Daryl Murray, Darryl Murray. Now he

923
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: almost blew the whole thing up talking about what he

924
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: was talking about and that he want to talk about

925
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: the championship don't mean nothing. Now, had he won it,

926
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: I guarantee you he and been talking about that.

927
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 4: I'll take it. Give it to me, I'll take it. So, how.

928
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: With the team that you guys had, did you lose

929
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: a three to one lead? And you guys had double

930
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: digit leads in every game?

931
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: Man?

932
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: Jamal Murray and and and Joker like they took it

933
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: to another level? Yeah, you know, they took it to

934
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: another level and they they played great.

935
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, like I said, you if you

936
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 4: build a sixteen fifteen sixty point lead, like you was

937
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 4: doing something right right, you know?

938
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 3: And so.

939
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: It just they played better than we did, you know,

940
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: coming down the stretch, you know, and so if you

941
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 2: get hired at the right time, like you said, it's tough,

942
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: and so being up three to one and have an

943
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: opportunity to close him out, and we would have done that.

944
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: I think we could have won. We could have won

945
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 2: the bubble, We could have won. Yeah, out of ticket,

946
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: Doc would have took it.

947
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 4: What you mean, Yeah, we took it. But after that.

948
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: Doc ends up getting fired. He and PG have a

949
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: back and forth. PG said, well, I'm not playing the

950
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: kind of basketball that I want to play running you know.

951
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: Maybe he said I think he wanted to run pandine

952
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: and Docs had him running players. So whatever the case may,

953
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: you know, whatever the case may be, I've really never

954
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: heard you say anything about you know, obviously, players move on,

955
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: and you understand that, having played in this game, having

956
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: coached in this game, that players are gonna move on.

957
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: And sometimes we might have never get out. But we

958
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: don't see eye eye. Me and the player don't see

959
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: eye to eye. Is there ever a scenario where you

960
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: feel you would players said something that you would counter that,

961
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 1: or you just let it walk.

962
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 4: I let it walk. I mean that's just something that's egregious.

963
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: Or is you a testing my man? You're like you

964
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: want to scrap. We can know I ain't running from that,

965
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: I like, but yeah, I ain't running from that. But like,

966
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: you know, players are gonna be upset, they're gonna, you know,

967
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: they're gonna say what they're gonna say. But I think

968
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: if you're the leader and your coach, like you gotta

969
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: take the higher role, right, you know, I do believe

970
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 2: in that, and so you know, to me, like, I'm

971
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: a only gonna take the blame whether I'm wrong or

972
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: not right.

973
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 4: You know.

974
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: So if you're the leader at any corporation or any profession,

975
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 2: like if you the leader of the team, like you

976
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: should take the responsibility and you should take the blame

977
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: even though you know one hundred percent it wasn't but

978
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: my job to take the pressure off you guys, so

979
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: you're not getting you know, crucified. And and so that's

980
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: just how I feel it should be, you know. And

981
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 2: so I wouldn't go back and forth with a player,

982
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: you know, I wouldn't do that.

983
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: The Lakers had a vacancy, you was in the running.

984
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: I think Lebron called you a couple of times wanted

985
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: you to take the job. Why didn't you take the job?

986
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: I mean you played for the Lake. I mean I

987
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: think it's always a good story when when when a

988
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: guy can go back and coach the team that he

989
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: played for.

990
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 4: I would have loved it. I mean have been a

991
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 4: dream coming true. Yeah, why do you take the job?

992
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: One?

993
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 2: They offered me short years. They offered me three years,

994
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: and I wanted to do five. I guess they were

995
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 2: trying to tie me to Lebron.

996
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 4: Two.

997
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 1: The money was low, and no, no, no, don't don't

998
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: they know the cause of living in l A.

999
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying it wasn't load, like for me personally

1000
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: the money, it was load for the head coach and

1001
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: for what it meant to everybody else going forward. It's

1002
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, the Players Association, if you

1003
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: take a bad deal, they're gonna give us all bad deals, right,

1004
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: And so I just felt for me being a championship

1005
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: coach and being black, you know, I thought it was

1006
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: up to me to make sure I set the standard.

1007
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 4: If I take a bad deal, then what's everybody else

1008
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 4: gonna get?

1009
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: You know, A worst deal?

1010
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, a worst. So I just thought it was up

1011
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: to me, you know, to make sure I did that.

1012
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: And then for me and I it's hard because you know,

1013
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: loyalty is tough. But then I couldn't pick my coaching staff.

1014
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 2: You know, well they won't let me pick my coaching staff.

1015
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: So they was gonna pick my coaching staff for me.

1016
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: And so I had to leave a lot of guys behind.

1017
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: What what what what? What? What? What?

1018
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 3: What? What?

1019
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: What do you mean pick your coaching staff?

1020
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 4: They wanted to pick my staff for me.

1021
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 1: So another word, instead of saying I want to hire

1022
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: you know John Drew or this guy, that guy, They're like, no,

1023
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: you got you got him him and him, Yeah, but

1024
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: you don't know them like that.

1025
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: I knew some of the guys. I mean, it wasn't

1026
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: it wasn't a thing why the didn't like the guys

1027
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: they wanted me to hire. My thing was just leaving

1028
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: guys behind. Like so if I'm fired, my guys are

1029
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: out of work, then you know, I get a job

1030
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: and just say I'll forget them and to leave them behind,

1031
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: like we want to championship together, went the four straight

1032
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 2: finals together, like you know what I'm saying. And so

1033
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: without what we've done we showed is it worked, you know,

1034
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 2: and so I just felt that that wasn't that wasn't

1035
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: something that I wanted to do. And so those three

1036
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: things kind of you know, knipped in the bud and

1037
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: you know, we went. I mean, it wasn't no bad blood, like,

1038
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: it's just it was what it was. It wasn't And

1039
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: then you know, Manti Williams saved the world, you know

1040
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, getting that big deal. And then because

1041
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: we had coaches and meetings in Chicago just talking about

1042
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: you know, it's gonna be hard to fire co is

1043
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: if we're making more money, right, you know, and so

1044
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: they don't really respect us as leader as an organization,

1045
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: like we're running a billion dollar organization. You know, they

1046
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 2: don't really respect us like we're getting three four million.

1047
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: I messed a lot of mon but I'm just saying,

1048
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 2: like in the coaching world, they can just let you go.

1049
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: They paying you know, something's paying three four or five coaches,

1050
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: you know, like Manni Williamsy.

1051
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 4: So I told Steve Kerr, I told Phoenix, Uh, I.

1052
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: Told Doc, I told Spoe like because this is like,

1053
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: you know, for your y'all, y'all, the face of the

1054
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: league far as coaches like y'all got to get the

1055
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: money up, like you know what I'm saying, right, And

1056
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: they're like, well, you know whatever.

1057
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 4: So two years later, MANI goes and gets get detroyed.

1058
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he gets the bag, then Spoe, then

1059
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: Steve Kerr, then Pop and then me. You know what

1060
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Then now everything's going up, you know. And

1061
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: so and I think it's fair. I think, you know,

1062
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: when you you have a coach and there's fifteen players

1063
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: and you like the four thirteen fourteen high paid player,

1064
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean out of the players and the

1065
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 2: coaches like that, Ain't that ain't fair? Like, you know,

1066
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: And so I thought he did a really good job

1067
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 2: of just, you know, showing appreciation for coaches and you know,

1068
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: because it's a hard it's a hard job.

1069
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to ask you this, why do you, like,

1070
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: I look at you. You give John Wallace an opportunity,

1071
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: You give Russ an opportunity, You give Ben Simmons an opportunity.

1072
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: What what is it about that? Why do you why

1073
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: do you? Why do you? Why do you do that?

1074
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: Give guys an opportunity? Because you know, Ben, for whatever reason,

1075
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: seemed like he lost his confidence. And we'll touch on

1076
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: this a little later. John Wall had a situation, he

1077
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: went through some stuff with his mom and had some

1078
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: tough injuries. Russ, Uh, why why do you do that?

1079
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 2: Because I played and I understand, and so you know

1080
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 2: a lot of times you just need, you know, a

1081
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: coach that can give you confidence and get you back

1082
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: to you know, where you want to get to, you know.

1083
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: And so I've been a player when you know the

1084
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: times almost up, you know, like the clock is running out,

1085
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,479
Speaker 2: and you know, you never want to see those guys

1086
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: go out like that. And having a relationship with those

1087
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: guys right and giving them opportunity.

1088
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 4: I will always do that.

1089
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: And so you know a lot of guys have career

1090
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: years playing under me because like I said, I give

1091
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: them confidence or guys they didn't want to play the

1092
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: game no more, like Reggie Jackson and Nick Batoon and

1093
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: then they're playing six seven, eight more years, you know,

1094
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: when they was ready to retire, you know. And so

1095
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: it's important to be able to give back, you know,

1096
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: to our guys, and in any way I can, and

1097
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: so I really enjoy that.

1098
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: What happened with Ben Simmons. You talk about a guy

1099
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: that was Rookie of the Year, he was an All

1100
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: NBA player, he was a perennial All Star, and then

1101
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it just didn't click. It's something

1102
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: something happened me. I traced it back to that Atlanta

1103
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: game where he had a layup. I mean, he had

1104
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: a looked like a dunk and he passed it, and

1105
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: his coach was critical, the best player was critical, and

1106
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: I remember I was on the undisputed was kipt. I said,

1107
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: it's so over. I said, he's never gonna be the same.

1108
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: And he said, why you say that, I say, because

1109
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: the head coach said what he said, and his best

1110
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: player said what he said. I said, he broke his confidence.

1111
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: I said, and that city and then you know, you

1112
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: see the meme with this has been similar than us

1113
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: a trash can going down the street because the city

1114
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: is flooding. They fok is confident and he hadn't be.

1115
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: He hasn't been the same player since. Now. I know

1116
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: he's had some injuries, But how how do you when

1117
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: a guy he's the first overall pick, he's Rookie of

1118
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: the Year, he's perennial, a perennial All Star. How does

1119
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 1: confidence confidence is that big of a thing in basketball,

1120
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: t Lou.

1121
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: Confidence is everything in life, whatever you do, you know,

1122
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 2: and I come from one of the most confident places

1123
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: in the world Mexicans Earth Listen, I'm telling you you

1124
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: would think everybody that is Michael Jordan. I'm saying everybody,

1125
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 2: you know what, it doesn't matter, like you know, from

1126
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 2: all my God dam into Jay Rold to Conrad, the Stacey,

1127
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: the filth, like everybody think they think they're it, you know.

1128
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 2: So having that confidence plays a big factor in everything

1129
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 2: you do. For me, I think I equated to just that,

1130
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: you know, that play whatever. I don't think that changed.

1131
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: I think the injuries really set him back, having two

1132
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: back surgeries, you know. Then we acquired him this year,

1133
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 2: seeing with his knee, you know, seeing like how his

1134
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: knee was, you know, all things he had to fight

1135
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: through to be able to get on the floor. I

1136
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 2: think played a big role. I think you saw in

1137
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: Brooklyn last year like he was, he was, he was good,

1138
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: he was back to being you know who he is.

1139
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: And the thing didn't work with us, you know last year,

1140
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 2: which I'm pissed off of myself about, is that.

1141
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 4: He needs a ball in his hands. And so does James.

1142
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 4: And then SOA's cool, you know what I'm saying.

1143
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: So it was hard, you know, And it was hard exactly, Yeah,

1144
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: and you should want him to because the way he plays,

1145
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: the way he passes his pace, the way he plays

1146
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: the game, and how he can make people better, you

1147
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: don't want him off the ball, you know. So it

1148
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: was just a tough dynamic and I take full responsibes,

1149
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: be like, I didn't figure it out the way I

1150
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: needed to, So he really didn't have a fair shake.

1151
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 4: So I'm I'm still pissed about that. What's it like?

1152
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: Russ? No matter what you think about him, he has

1153
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 1: the most career triple doubles. He's to every triple double.

1154
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: I think what three seasons he ain't gonna teach you?

1155
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: You know exactly what you're gonna get, Russell Westbrook A.

1156
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna get an outstanding play, you're gonna get a turnover,

1157
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna get an airball, you're gonna get a big three.

1158
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: But he gonna give you everything he has and you

1159
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: can appreciate that.

1160
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 4: Every single night, every single practice, every single day. And

1161
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 4: the thing that.

1162
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: Which you know I equate him with with Lebron, Like

1163
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 2: when you have great players like that. Yeah, always on time,

1164
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: early to the bus, early to the meetings, never late,

1165
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: like you know that that means a lot, you know,

1166
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 2: that should show just respect for your teammates, with the

1167
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: staff and for you know who you're working with. And

1168
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: every day he's gonna bring it no matter what. Practice.

1169
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: Like I said, games shoot around. You know what you're

1170
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 2: gonna get every single day, and you can respect that.

1171
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: So that's why so many people love Russ because you

1172
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: know every single day you're gonna get this and you

1173
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 2: can't ask for anything anything more.

1174
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: What's it like being a coach for Steve Barmer? You

1175
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: see him there. I've never seen an owner that has

1176
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: more emotion watching the game. I mean he is a

1177
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: true fan because he goes through the gamut of emotions

1178
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: just like I'm like, bro, you do realize you got

1179
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: like one hundred big and you're supposed to be just

1180
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: sitting there just like stow it and he hey, every

1181
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: shot turnover. I mean you could tell.

1182
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, he's fully invested and one thigh. You know,

1183
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 4: people just see the.

1184
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: Games and like how the game and you know his

1185
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: actions and reactions or whatever. But what I've learned from

1186
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 2: him is, Shannon, is that no matter how much money

1187
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: you have or how rich you are, you know you

1188
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: could be a good person.

1189
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: Yes, And that's what he is.

1190
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: Like to treat people the way he treats him like

1191
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 2: is like if you got a guy who's worth one

1192
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty billion, and to treat everybody like, I mean,

1193
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: everything's so personable, everything is like genuine. You know, he's

1194
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 2: not faking, he's not He doesn't have to, right, he

1195
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: doesn't need anybody right. But just see how he treats

1196
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: people like it just goes to show like and that's

1197
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 2: why I try to be good. Everybody don't know that

1198
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 2: you come across because you know, you never know. And

1199
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: I'm just seeing how Steve Bomber did for me in Mexico,

1200
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 2: what he's done for this organization, what he's done for

1201
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 2: the city of la what he's done for the city

1202
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 2: of Seattle. Like he's just a genuine person. That's a

1203
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: great person. And you know, you don't see you don't

1204
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 2: see too many better human beings than he is.

1205
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: Oh oh, he went back to you to Mexico, Missouri

1206
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: with you on the private yet and stay of the

1207
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: best Western.

1208
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: Best Western, instead of some of the best sleep he's

1209
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 2: had a long time. So I say, you know what,

1210
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: if he can come and stay anybody, I don't want

1211
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: to hear nothing from no abody. Anybody can come and

1212
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: stay in Mexico. If mister Obama can come and stay

1213
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 2: in Mexico, only where five other people can say they can't.

1214
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 4: Outside of that, everybody should come.

1215
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Who's your favorite player to watch in the NBA

1216
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: right now today?

1217
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 4: I have a few? I love Aunt man, m h.

1218
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 2: I love Tatum just from guys that are not on

1219
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: my team. You just said love Steph. You know still

1220
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 2: what he brings whom I'm missing, fellove, Oh, Kyrie, Yeah, dancing,

1221
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 2: I mean, just so many great pleasures. It's hard to

1222
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: like remember, but like, yeah, Kyrie loves see him dance.

1223
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1224
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: I love ant Man the stuff talking and I think

1225
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: and I love you know watching You know Tatum play.

1226
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: You But Tatum is a cousin of yours? Correct, y'all

1227
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: play real cousin play play cousin cousins, Okay, cause you

1228
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: know uptime you know we are two girls to play. Yeah, man,

1229
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: you but you know, but you know I could we

1230
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: are well cave called somebody and we be closer caying

1231
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: to a German shepherd than the actual person.

1232
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 4: Yeah for sure.

1233
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, what you gotta help me understand where all this

1234
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: hate for JT come from? What? Hey, man, they be

1235
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: killing j T man heady dude is And I want

1236
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: to ask you, because you were there, how that man

1237
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: a three time all the NBA selection. They can't get

1238
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: but two minutes a game in the Olympics. Two minutes

1239
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: a game, yeah, okay for five No, they.

1240
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 4: Played more than that.

1241
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 1: Tu. You gotta figure it out, you you You told

1242
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: me We've been sitting here for over an hour and

1243
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: a half and you say you can figure out how

1244
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: to get guys made of how to get guys shot.

1245
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: You mean to tell you you couldn't figure out how

1246
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: to get that man more getting that man on the

1247
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: coach motivat.

1248
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1249
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: I mean I take responsibility because I'm part of coaching staff, right,

1250
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 2: So whatever we decide to make as a as a

1251
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: as a staff, I'm never gonna go against that. I'm

1252
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 2: not gonna go whisper and saying oh we should like no,

1253
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 2: like once the decisions.

1254
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: Made, that's what that's everybody got to buy into it.

1255
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 4: That's what it is.

1256
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 2: And as much as it hurt me, like you know,

1257
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 2: he's like, damn cool. Yeah, Like I'm saying, like you

1258
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, I wanted to play. I thought

1259
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 2: you should be out there for like you know, once

1260
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: you make a decision, I'm not gonna go.

1261
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 4: But oh man, this is the no. I mean, that's

1262
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 4: decision that.

1263
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm not gonna never throw a coach on

1264
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 2: the bus or a player or nobody else, you know

1265
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

1266
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: So of course with my cousins, you know, of course

1267
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: you right, yeah, hell yeah. Upbringing Mexico, Missouri, Like what

1268
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: was it? Like what what what kind of town is Mexico, Missouri?

1269
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: What do you'll what do y'all grow? Is a livestock y'all? Have?

1270
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 3: You know?

1271
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 4: You have corn bricks?

1272
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 2: We was known for bricks, ap greens and nationals. We

1273
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: were we were known for having the number one was

1274
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 2: it fire brick? Yeah, firebrick I think in the United States.

1275
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: And so that's where all the money was generated from.

1276
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: And then when they closed those plans down, that's when

1277
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: you know, Mexico kind of went, you know, went down.

1278
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: But to me, it was like a small city, right,

1279
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: you know, because it's a town of eleven thousand people.

1280
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: Well back then it was thirteen to five, but now

1281
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,959
Speaker 2: it's like eleven thousand. But it was a small city

1282
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: because you had people that did everything. So if you

1283
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: want to gamble, yeah, all the guys taught you how

1284
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: to lock the dice or gree car mile you know,

1285
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 2: you look, taught you how to you know, whatever, you know,

1286
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: if you wanted to. You know, you don't get drugs.

1287
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: You had people who were you know, went to college.

1288
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: It had you know, god degree, so you had everything

1289
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: you needed around and it's a small community. So you're

1290
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: getting that every single day, you know, and so you

1291
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 2: learn about it, you know, every single day. What you're

1292
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: supposed to do, what you're not supposed to do, what

1293
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: to get into, what not to get into. And what

1294
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: it teaches you is like when I got to the league,

1295
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 2: you know, you get around those guys that grew up

1296
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: in the city and you and you look and they

1297
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: don't understand and see what's going with like guys are cheating,

1298
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: and when guys are locking the dice or.

1299
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 4: They don't know what's going on, and you looking like damn,

1300
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 4: these they're from a but they don't see what's going on, right,

1301
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 4: you know it kind of so like me, I'm like

1302
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 4: in Mexico, you learned everything at an early age, right,

1303
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 4: you know, ten eleven, twelve, you know a boy, gambla,

1304
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 4: you know about you know, if you're gonna be in

1305
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 4: you know, the drugs scene, if you're gonna go out

1306
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 4: and party, if you're gonna be whatever you're gonna be,

1307
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 4: you can learn.

1308
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: About it right now. And so I thought it really

1309
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 2: did a good job. Was just teaching me everything at

1310
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: a young age. So when I got older, I wasn't

1311
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 2: numb to none of the bulls.

1312
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I've seen it.

1313
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: I've seen it from every every angle and so that

1314
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 2: really helped me to grow. And like I said, just

1315
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: having a confidence that they have back home, like from

1316
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: a you know, a crackhead to what that confidence? You

1317
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: don't walk around you know, just as confidence as anybody else.

1318
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: And that's what I love about being in Mexico because

1319
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 2: everybody's together and everybody's one.

1320
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 4: It don't matter you know what you've done, if.

1321
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 2: You dropped out of high school, you dropped out of

1322
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: junior high whatever, Like we all people and we all together.

1323
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 4: And that's why, you know, I love I love it

1324
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 4: so much.

1325
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: You don't drink or smoke. Never got it because your

1326
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: father had a substance. Is that why? Abuse problem? Is

1327
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: that why?

1328
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1329
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 2: I could say that. You know my dad, you know,

1330
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: he smoke crack, you know, growing up, and I give

1331
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 2: him credit. You know, once he went to prison and

1332
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: got out, he's been clean for twenty three years. Yeah,

1333
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: never had a drink, never had a you know, any drug.

1334
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: And we form a really great relationship. And so shout

1335
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 2: out to Ronald Kim forgetting itself together. But you know

1336
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 2: it takes a lot.

1337
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, you know, being on drugs the way he

1338
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 4: was and to be clean and for us.

1339
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: Every day, yeah, you know what as an addict or

1340
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: recovering addict is every day, every day you got to

1341
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: drive by the liquor store, you got to drive by

1342
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: the package shop, you got to somebody smoking, right, you

1343
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: got to do this every single day for the rest

1344
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: of your life.

1345
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: And I'm a sugar addict, and I understand, and I understand. Well,

1346
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 2: Shirley Temple's come out on the table saying I see it,

1347
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: you know, like I saying, my grandpa he drank a lot,

1348
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 2: and so I love my grandpa Tyron, right, So just

1349
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 2: seeing those things and how it you know, when my

1350
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: grandpa drank, when you come on at night, how you

1351
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 2: would act, you know, and how my dad was and

1352
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 2: just you know, seeing those dynamics, you know, maybe you

1353
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 2: want to stay away. And then also like it was

1354
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 2: like a badger honor like all my friends or you know,

1355
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 2: they're drinking it. I don't want to do that, like

1356
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 2: I want to be different, you know. And so it's

1357
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 2: forty eight years now, so I don't need to do

1358
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: it now.

1359
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said you you lived with your uncle, and

1360
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: you spoke about your uncle live briefly earlier.

1361
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 4: Two different Yeah my uncle jays idolized basketball, okay, and

1362
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,919
Speaker 4: that's not the one you live with, no, okay. Yeah,

1363
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 4: And I went to live with my uncle Kevin.

1364
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: Is that your mom's brother, your dad?

1365
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1366
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: And so I saw more year in high school, I

1367
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 2: got some trouble back home in Mexico, and the family

1368
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: came to an agreement that you know, I needed to

1369
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 2: get out of there, like you know, and have a

1370
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 2: father figure being a bigger city and have a chance

1371
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 2: to cause like teams wouldn't coming college coach wouldn't come

1372
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 2: to Mexico to recruit, you know, and so to try

1373
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 2: to playing my uh took my talents to South Beach,

1374
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and went to Kansas City.

1375
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: My uncle, like I say, he took me in, you know.

1376
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 2: And as a sophomore, you know, that's tough, you know, yeah,

1377
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 2: and you know hit the ground running, you know, it was.

1378
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: It was hard because in Mexico you used to being

1379
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 2: out on the streets till one two in the morning.

1380
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 4: You know, you're being policed and by all the different

1381
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 4: you know, my mom's you know friend or.

1382
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, so ain't you such as like boy,

1383
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: you know better?

1384
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 4: Right, So you get to Kansas City.

1385
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 2: It's a big city, you know, and so it was

1386
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 2: the dynamics were different, you know, having to be you know,

1387
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 2: in at a certain time and you know, being you know,

1388
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 2: being more safe, and you know, it.

1389
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 4: Was it was, it was.

1390
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 2: It was an adjustment for me, but I needed it,

1391
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 2: you know, and so, uh, you know, Kevin took me

1392
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 2: in and I did my three years there and then

1393
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 2: I was able to go to Nebraska from there and

1394
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 2: then kind of you know, so I got my life

1395
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 2: on track because I was going the wrong direction.

1396
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 4: So it was it was very much needed.

1397
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: You had some health health issues. There was some chest

1398
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: pain this past season. Damn coaching stressful. Huh this season

1399
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: the last season a couple of years we were in Cleveland, Cleveland. Yeah,

1400
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: well this year I had my messed my backup. Yeah,

1401
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: my shoulder in my back.

1402
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 4: What did you do? I'm trying to get big, like

1403
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. You're trying to throw that

1404
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 4: wait around and all that. Just I know better man

1405
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 4: days are over, man.

1406
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I had, you know, I messed my

1407
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 2: backup that No, it was like it was like yeah,

1408
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 2: so but Cleveland is when I had the chest pains

1409
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 2: and I didn't understand what was going on, Like I

1410
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 2: feel like a heart attack, you know, or whatever a

1411
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 2: heart attack you think you feel like. And I was

1412
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 2: scared of sleep at night because like these sharp pains

1413
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 2: were like just like shooting my chest. Like I was

1414
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 2: scared to go to sleep because I didn't know what

1415
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: was going So I wasn't sleeping. And we did all

1416
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 2: the tests and so I went to Cleveland clinic and

1417
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 2: I did all like the e kgs, the echo tests,

1418
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 2: and the treadmill all that stuff, and so the doctor said, listen,

1419
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 2: you might die, but it won't be from your heart.

1420
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 2: Your heart is perfectly fine. So I'm like, damn, like

1421
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 2: what's so? I was like, Okay, I feel better about that,

1422
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: you know whatever. So we still kept trying to find

1423
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 2: what was going on. And a guy with a doctor

1424
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 2: and they said, oh, man, you're experiencing anxiety and depression,

1425
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 2: you know, and so like depression ain't I'm from Mexico.

1426
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 2: I ain't like like yeah, I ain't depressed like whatever.

1427
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 2: He's like, no, like that's what you're experiencing.

1428
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 3: It.

1429
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 4: So he was like, I want you to do this.

1430
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 2: So they had some medication for me to take for

1431
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks and I took some time off,

1432
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 2: which I give Cleveland g Yeah. Yeah, they were really

1433
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 2: like serious about it, and I give Kobe Albin a

1434
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 2: lot of credit.

1435
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 4: For saying, listen, take the time you need, don't on this.

1436
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 2: So took a couple of weeks off, changed my diet,

1437
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 2: you know, took some medication, started doing yoga and all

1438
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 2: that stuff and I may help. And then I got

1439
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 2: the medication like right after the playoffs. And so the

1440
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: guy the doctors in my happy places.

1441
01:04:56,080 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 4: Gambling, like being yeah, being in Vegas.

1442
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 2: And the playoffs. Really that was my happy place. And

1443
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 2: so he's like anytime you get a chance. So like

1444
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: what it's crazy. It's like our general manager, like Devid Griffin,

1445
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 2: he had come to the house two times a week,

1446
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 2: we have a poker game. You know, like they did

1447
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 2: everything they could, you know, keep me engaged. But once

1448
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 2: I found that out, but like it hasn't been a

1449
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 2: problem ever since. But like that was some stressful times.

1450
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: How many hours a night were you sleeping?

1451
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 4: Probably three tops?

1452
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: Damn hell, I might be stressed in anxiety. But I

1453
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: mean since I retired. I mean I used to sleep

1454
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: fairly good when I was, when I was a player,

1455
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: but once I got to a certain age, I don't.

1456
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but I mean, because you know, when

1457
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 2: you get older, you don't sleep with grandma sleep.

1458
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: I wonder why old people be up. Yeah they go

1459
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: to bed and seven o'clock, but up at three. Yeah.

1460
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 2: So but when you in the bend, you having chest

1461
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 2: pass and sometimes you's spending up blood like and you

1462
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on, right, you know, so like it,

1463
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 2: you know, because like coach is tough when you want

1464
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 2: to be the best when you want to win, and

1465
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: if the best player in the world.

1466
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: You know, you would't need too many oxtails and hagmall

1467
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: and stuff like that.

1468
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 4: No, No, you a lot of sugar.

1469
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: So you're like, so you got a sweet tooth. Yeah,

1470
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: because we see h coach Papa Bitch had to retire.

1471
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: I mean obviously coaching is very stressful, yes, because you

1472
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: coach your team and the expectations are very very high.

1473
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: You understand that. You understand when you get into this

1474
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: profession what is expected of you. So it ain't no

1475
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: pre chense well you know I want this team. It

1476
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: ain't that no more as now. And the players that

1477
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: you have. You got a guy that was a top

1478
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: seventy five player. As a matter of fact, you got

1479
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: two of them on your team. So the expectations are

1480
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: is to win. Yes, you feel that.

1481
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 4: I like that. Yeah, I like that because if you're

1482
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 4: in a position to win a.

1483
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 2: Championship, that's all you that's all you can ask for. Yeah,

1484
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 2: that's all you can ask for. If it was a

1485
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 2: situation where you're not playing for a championship, you're not

1486
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 2: conpeeding for a championship. What we're doing this for Yeah,

1487
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 2: you know, I like those expectations.

1488
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: Give me all time. Starting five teammates, your former teammates,

1489
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: guys that you played with as far as talent or

1490
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: who I love you give me your starting five. Who

1491
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna start with? You got you got five. You

1492
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: gotta start in five.

1493
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, who I like the

1494
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 4: most or who are the best players you.

1495
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: Had to put together? Start in five with the five

1496
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: teammates who wanted to be and why Shack Shack is one, Kobe, Kobe, Jordan, Jordan's.

1497
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 4: T mac t mac.

1498
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: Oh damn, y'all mean, yeah, we got y'all, Dirk Dirk j.

1499
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 4: Kid, I'm sorry if I leave you. So, I mean

1500
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 4: you're going by position right, So Shack, Dirk, Kobe Jordan.

1501
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: You can put team back in there. You can put

1502
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 1: your yeah, go big yeah, t.

1503
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 4: Mac Cole, Jordan, Dirk Shack.

1504
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: Damn. That's that's a little squad, y'all. Might has ring

1505
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: culture become a problem. We got to test on this

1506
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier because now you ain't got to

1507
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: Now you ain't got to ring huge.

1508
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 2: I think I think it has, I think it becomes

1509
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:27,759
Speaker 2: it's become a problem because now you have guys thinking

1510
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 2: that winning is more important than loyalty and doing it

1511
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 2: the right way. And it's not their fault, but it's,

1512
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 2: like you said, it's what it's projecting to the world.

1513
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 4: Now.

1514
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 2: I think it's hard to see franchises draft great players,

1515
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 2: young players and you're willing to grow with, but they

1516
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 2: leave to, you know, to try to pursue a championship

1517
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 2: because they think that's what's gonna give them, you know.

1518
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 4: To this point, the pinnacle.

1519
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: And so.

1520
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 2: I just think, yeah, it's it's definitely you know, cloud

1521
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 2: our game, you know, just as far as saying, oh,

1522
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 2: you gotta win, you gotta win chant like he's gotta

1523
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 2: be a great player and a great person. Everything's gonna

1524
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 2: take care of myself, you know.

1525
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: And so I know, Steve, it ain't no guarantee even

1526
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: if you go some place you're gonna win the championship, Yeah.

1527
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 4: Exactly, you know.

1528
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 2: And so I think winning the port like you play

1529
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 2: to win, correct, That's that's the number one goal, Like

1530
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 2: that's the ultimate goal, you know. But I think there's

1531
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 2: the right way to do it though, Like you can't

1532
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 2: sell yourself, you know, because you want to win a champion,

1533
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 2: Like I just you know, it's just so to me,

1534
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 2: being the best player you can be doing the right

1535
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 2: way grind to get to that point. I think it's

1536
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 2: important and it's it's more fulfilling when.

1537
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 4: You do it that way.

1538
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: Is the era of the super teams over?

1539
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 4: Yes?

1540
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 2: I think so, because of the way you know, the

1541
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 2: cap instructure now the first AP Yeah, it's gonna be hard.

1542
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: You want to spend a badon dollar the year to

1543
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 1: try to win the championship the NBA, by guess, and.

1544
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 2: Then also like, if you're gonna do it, it's gonna

1545
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 2: be with older talent guys is thirty five, thirty six,

1546
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 2: and it's gonna take less money to try to win.

1547
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 2: But I think the super teams and especially the way

1548
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 2: the game is playing now with all the cutting and

1549
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 2: slashing picking up full court like stars ain't doing like

1550
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 2: so you need three four guys around to do the

1551
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 2: dirty work, you know. So it's gonna be a little different.

1552
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: So it might be one here here or there, But

1553
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 2: for the most part, I think that's over.

1554
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 1: Expectations for the Clippers this season.

1555
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 2: To win at a high level. To me, I want

1556
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: to get to the conference finals or better. And we

1557
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 2: have a talented team to do it. Like our biggest

1558
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 2: thing is over the years has been health, you know,

1559
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 2: which has held us back. And still think about and

1560
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,759
Speaker 2: dreaming about my first year like a kawha, don't.

1561
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 4: Get hurt that year like that. The Utah series, Yeah,

1562
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 4: he gets hurt.

1563
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 2: We beat the number one CEE Utah and then were

1564
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 2: playing the conference finals against things go to game six.

1565
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 2: You know, PG had a hell of a you know

1566
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 2: a series and you know came up short, you know,

1567
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 2: And so every year has been something you know, co

1568
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 2: O's mess. Every playoff series. PG has been out for

1569
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 2: playoff series, and so it's just been tough. So for me,

1570
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 2: I think with our coaching staff, you know, the team

1571
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 2: that we've assembled with you know, Jeff Van Gundy, like

1572
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 2: I said, Brian Shaw has done a great job, Jay,

1573
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,560
Speaker 2: Larry Naga, you know, Larry.

1574
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 4: Drewmy Castleberry, Daunte.

1575
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 2: So we got a great group of guys that has

1576
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 2: played the game in some or that understands the game

1577
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 2: and been head coaches before. And so I think with

1578
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,560
Speaker 2: that dynamic with our players, i think we've got a

1579
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 2: chance to be pretty good. So I'm excited about it.

1580
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 1: Clippers head coaches, gentlemen, thank you.

1581
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 3: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle the price,

1582
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 3: one slice, got the all my life.

1583
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: I been grinding all my life.

1584
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 4: All my life, grinding all my.

1585
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 3: Life, sacrifice, hustle, pa price, one slice, doctor brother, all

1586
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 3: my life, I been grinding all my life.

1587
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 4: Attatatatatas