1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Time to evaluate how did this go wrong and it 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: has become unacceptable? I don't know how else to kind 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: of evaluate it other than that. Welcome into Northside Territory. 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm Sahadev Sharma with Patrick Mooney, 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: your hosts and Cubs beat writers for The Athletic. Patrick, 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: I think it's time to wake that up and talk 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: some Cubs. I'm fired up here in my basement, all 8 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: rowled up over another Cubs loss where they got two 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: hits in one run. So getting all fired up like 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: Justin Steele did on Saturday did not rally the troops. 11 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: It did not lead to a hot streak. Not yet. Hey, 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: maybe they win the next six, you know, like you 13 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: can live in a fantasy land and pretend that's going 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: to happen. But I get fans wanted to see that. 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: What happened on Saturday. Justin Steele, if you're not sure 16 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. After an inning that we frankly 17 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: saw three times this series, three bad innings nearly led 18 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: to a sweep right each game they had a just 19 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: a forgettable innings on Saturday was a bad rundown ball 20 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,919 Speaker 1: that a bunt. I think that Justin Steele couldn't feeld 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: cleanly and it led to two runs after they'd taken 22 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: a two zero lead on the first two pitches of 23 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: the game, and Steele, walking off the field heading into 24 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: the dugout, appeared to say. He didn't address exactly what 25 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: he said. Nobody addressed what he said, but it looked 26 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: like the cameras caught him saying, wake the f up. 27 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if he said that. Either way, he 28 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: was fired up and showed some emotion. And I actually 29 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: said this. It was a topic before the game. It 30 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: was a topic before the game. Council was asked about it, 31 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: and he's just His point was, you just have to 32 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: act the way you are right, behave the way you 33 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: your personality is. And I get it, like Justin like, 34 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: fans want to see the emotion because they're fired up. 35 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: You know, they're upset, they're ticked off. Like what am 36 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: I watching? What am I rooting? For? My point is hey, 37 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: Like from my perspective, yeah, I want them to do 38 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: things like that too, because it's fun to write about it. 39 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: It makes it a lot more interesting than watching them, 40 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, get two hits and score one run right. 41 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: But I don't think it matters. I don't like. I 42 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: don't think they don't care because they're not doing that. 43 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: I like me as a person. I don't get fired up. 44 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: I don't lose my cool. That doesn't mean I don't 45 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: care about things. I just don't like. That's not how 46 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: I react to situations. There are a lot of players 47 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: in that clubhouse, and we've talked about this, Patrick who 48 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: wrote about it like they they maybe lack that edge. 49 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: It's been a topic. It was a topic this weekend. 50 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: They asked tay On about it after Friday's loss, and 51 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: he he said something similar to council like, you just 52 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: have to behave the way you you know, people react differently. 53 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: Everyone compartmentalizes these things differently and and it comes out 54 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: in different ways. Uh So if it's not natural, then 55 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: it's not going to work today. It didn't lead to 56 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: anything today. You know, Ian Happ makes that mistake. You 57 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: can't make mistakes behind Kyle Hendricks and and it's a 58 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: seven to one loss, another series loss, and and just 59 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: more evidence that this team isn't going to do what 60 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: they need to do. 61 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: So Snottive, I'm in the booths for visiting Baseball operations officials. 62 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: So I'm assuming this is the booth where there was 63 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: those great like memes or gifts of like you and 64 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: Jed just like slumps down, you know, kind of hands, 65 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: you know, head in their hands, or like slumped to 66 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: the one side, you know, leaning on their shoulders. And 67 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: so that's kind of you know how it feels covering 68 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: this teams, and you seem very spry and refreshed. You 69 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: probably have like a nice day, you know, family. You know, 70 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: I was not a good history buff question for you. 71 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: Where were you June thirtieth, twenty twenty one, exactly three 72 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: years ago? 73 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: Was that the Jake Arietta game? 74 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: Yes, you were here. 75 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: I was here here. 76 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: That's where you are. 77 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: Meant when Jed privately conceded that they were going to 78 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: have to sell, and to me, I just looked this 79 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: up before we started recording, it was just amazing symmetry 80 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: to me that three years later the Cubs trade away 81 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: all these guys, they hire Craig Council, the Brewers trade 82 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 2: away Corbyn Burns, Brandon Woodruff gets hurt, and I believe 83 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: the Brewer's Division lead is now a eleven and a 84 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: half games heading into July. Just a staggering kind of 85 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: lack of progress, I would say, and that to me, you. 86 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 3: Wrote about it Friday night. 87 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: The fact that Jed Hoyer is publicly acknowledging the possibility 88 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: of a sells off means there's a very strong likelihood 89 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: of a sell off, because you know, watching this team 90 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: every day and like, believing in a turnaround just requires 91 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: a certain detachment from reality. 92 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like, I you know, I pushed back. I 93 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't say I pushed back. I had to make sure 94 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: that that was what he was saying. I like made 95 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: sure he like clearly asked him, like, so you're not 96 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: taking a cell off the table, And I knew, I 97 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: know he can't. We know Jed well enough that he 98 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: doesn't rule these things out right, but you need to 99 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: hear it from him, And yeah, you have to be 100 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: a realist about the situation. Is this tell you what 101 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: he said, and I think we all see what the 102 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: situation is. This offense is like playing at an unacceptable level. Frankly, 103 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: like they have too much talent. They should be better 104 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: than this, and they're not. The way they're performing is 105 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: below is well below expectations and well below talent. Level. 106 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: Sometimes that happens, and sometimes you have to reevaluate the mix. 107 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked all about it, the lack of 108 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: star power, but it is it's a little jarring how 109 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: consistently we're seeing these types of games. Whether it's one 110 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 1: day like today, like Sunday is complete absence of offense. 111 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: Other days it's even in Saturday's win, they were one 112 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: for twelve with runners in scoring position, just unbelievable. And 113 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: then the mistakes that are being made are the types 114 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: of things at Patrick, you covered the game today. I 115 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: was at home and I watched my son's travel game. 116 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: What drives me nuts when I watch those games the 117 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: sloppy defensive place where at they're at an age level 118 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: that they shouldn't be. They should just be making the 119 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: defensive plays. When I see that on Saturday with the 120 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: rundown at a major league game, like that's unacceptable, Like 121 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: that type of stuff, it's like, what is going on? 122 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: And I get why Justin Steel's yelling when he comes 123 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: to the doug out when he sees stuff like that, right, 124 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: but it's it's it has to be maddening, and and 125 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: it's just like sometimes it's just like really again, How 126 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: are they making these types of plays? How are these 127 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: types of mistakes happening? I think Hoyer A lot of 128 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,119 Speaker 1: the response that I got from that piece was Hoyer 129 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: shouldn't be making these decisions. I understand that the frustration 130 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: there and the desire to make a change. I don't 131 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: think it makes any sense to get rid of Jed 132 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: Hoyer before the trade deadline and not allow him to 133 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: make the moves, because then who's making the moves. Are 134 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: you saying that Carter Hall should be making the moves? 135 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: Are you Are you saying that Tom Ricketts should be 136 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: making the moves because you're not replacing Jed Hoyer mid season? 137 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. We'll see. I think the assessment of 138 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: Jed Hoyer has to come at the end of the season. 139 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: I also don't think he's been that bad when it 140 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: comes to making trades. They haven't all been perfect, but 141 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: I think, uh, he's gotten value. We'll see if he's 142 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: gotten actual results on the field. As far as those 143 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: prospects go right, they're valuable. That's that's the one thing. 144 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: I still think there's a way you can you can 145 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: handle this deadline in a way that helps you beyond 146 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: this year. And also immediately, I think they kind of 147 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 1: have to look at it that way, because what do 148 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: you First? I guess the biggest question is what are 149 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: you moving? And we we can we can focus more 150 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: on that later, I think, right, but yeah, the whole 151 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: month of yeah, but but I just don't really have 152 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: a lot of pieces that and and one big reason 153 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: is Cody Bellinger is not hitting for power, and that's 154 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: that makes him a questionable contract, right, and then the 155 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: rest are just like I don't know what you do. 156 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: I don't know who you move. Unless you're looking to 157 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: take a solid step back, it would have to be 158 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: combined with other moves, because a step back is unacceptable. 159 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: I think when when I say step back, I mean 160 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: beyond twenty twenty four. I understand you may have to 161 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: change the mix for twenty twenty four, but twenty If 162 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: you're looking at a step back in twenty twenty five, 163 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: then then you're talking about Jed Hoyer's job undoubtedly, right, 164 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: Like then you have to bring it up and say, 165 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: what what is happening here? 166 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 167 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: I mean, no one's going to miss this team, Like 168 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: if he whoever gets traded away, however, they reshuffle it 169 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: like no one's going to look back fondly on the 170 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four cause be like, oh man, you know, 171 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: remember this misplay or this brutal loss, like it hasn't worked. 172 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: I think last I checked, their record is like thirteenth 173 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: out of fifteen National League teams, which is kind of 174 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: staggering as well. I believe they ended today on an 175 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: zero for twenty six run against the Brewers. I think 176 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: we're not too far off from kind of the spin 177 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: zone of you know, this is this next whatever seventy 178 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: sixty games, whenever it kind of gets deconstructed of you know, 179 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: Miguel Amaya, Pico Armstrong, Chris Morrell, Michael Bush. 180 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: This is runway for them, see what we got. 181 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: And you know, maybe if they trade certain veteran pictures, 182 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: it's shedding some salary, making sure they say underneath the 183 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: CBT and oh wow, we have these power arms in Iowa. 184 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: We want to see what we got in those guys, 185 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: but you know, to see to see it. 186 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: Disintegrate this quickly was not something I had anticipated at all. 187 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: I thought with their starting pitching and just the overall 188 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: state of the National League, it would not be all 189 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: that hard to sustain at least the illusion of competitiveness. 190 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: And the fact that that has not happened. 191 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: Thus far heading into July, I think, really leaves everything 192 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 2: on the table, everything up for scrutiny. 193 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're when you say it that way, the 194 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: thirteenth out of fifteenth that like it maybe do double take, 195 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: but yes, you're I knew that there are only two 196 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: teams behind them in the wildcard race. It's just hearing 197 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: that like works. 198 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: Than last place thirteenth out of fifteenth when those other 199 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: two teams are the Marlins and Rockies. 200 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: Like they're quickly because like I was gonna say, the 201 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: Marlins and the Rockies especially like they're they're a you know, 202 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: they're the butt of jokes right in baseball world, and 203 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: the way the Cubs are playing, they're not that much better. 204 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: And that's like that's just so far away from what 205 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: they're supposed to be. And and it's just I mean, 206 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: you said it it like I'm I'm surprised how far 207 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: it's gone off the rails. Like I said, Friday, Saturday, 208 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: and Sunday, they were just innings where you're just like, 209 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? And there are moments like it's 210 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: like really again, with this offense, and it's just it's 211 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: on repeat. We're seeing the same story over and over again. 212 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: And it's stuff like that that makes me think, like, oh, 213 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: I get why fans want to see people screaming and yelling, 214 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: because how else are they reacting? Like like I it 215 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: makes sense to me. It's like, oh, yeah, well, I'm 216 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: hearing the same I watched the what Council at to 217 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: say in postgame and listen, He's not saying anything offensive 218 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: or crazy or or it's wrong. It's just at a 219 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: certain point us hearing it is just like I don't 220 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: know what what I'm supposed to do with this, Like 221 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: it's the same he's and I think he's struggling to 222 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: like what else am I supposed to say here? Like yeah, 223 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: I was. 224 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: You can't be a phony in that job. 225 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: And if you tried to, you know, it would be 226 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 2: like if if Joe Madden's you know, tried to be uh, 227 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 2: you know, kind of a tough guy or the sheriff 228 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, like that doesn't work right, Cross 229 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: kind of took on a totally different persona than the 230 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: guy that everyone knew when he came up. You just can't, 231 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: I can't live that way. And I was curious of 232 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: what You've known Jed a long time. You've covered him 233 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: a long time, you have a good relationship, like you 234 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 2: kind of can read the tea leaves whenever he talks, 235 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: like what what was that scene? Like when I'm assuming 236 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: he sat down in the visiting dugout and talk for 237 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: it sounds like a really long time, right. 238 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say it was said nearly 239 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: thirty minutes, just under thirty minutes. I think it was 240 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: twenty six minutes on my recorder, twenty six plus. And honestly, 241 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: he didn't seem like I've seen him, more like flummixed 242 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: and more frustrated and and just like in a bad mood. 243 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: I didn't get that sense he Like I asked, is 244 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: there you need to kind of reevaluate what the like, 245 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: what you've done, like what you've put together here, like 246 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: you we like And I've written this so it's I'm 247 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm guilty of it too. But Jed goes back to 248 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: we were good offense last year, the first month of April, 249 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: good offense. Okay, what point do we have to stop 250 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: saying that? 251 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: Right? 252 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: And just like this is what it is what's gone 253 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: wrong and what did we do wrong? And and he 254 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: admitted that he's like, listen, that's a good question. I 255 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: can't answer it on June whatever date that was twenty 256 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: eight And I get why he's saying that because in 257 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: baseball you cannot make these types of rash decisions and overreact. 258 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: And I know people say two months is a long time. 259 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: It just isn't. It just isn't right. I'm I'm not 260 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: convinced that it'll change. I was a month ago, I 261 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: was another month of it has shifted my thinking. These 262 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: guys get like, are like are good at their jobs 263 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: for a reason. It's because they don't overreact to these things. 264 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: So he needs to he needs to assess it at 265 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: the end of the year. What did go wrong right? 266 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: What have what mistakes did I make? I think we 267 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: both agree that it's you need to be aggressive for 268 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: that superstar and that that could have been this past 269 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: offseason going for Wan Soto, it could have been five 270 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: years ago, going for Bryce Harper. When these opportunities arise, 271 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: you cannot you just can't sit on your hands right 272 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: and say like, well, this isn't the perfect time for that, 273 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: This isn't the right time for that certain point, you 274 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: just have to go and get the superstar. Right, this 275 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: guy's available, he wants to come play here. We got 276 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: to overpay for him. That's how it works. Yeah, there's 277 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: probably seven or a dozen names in between Bryce Harper 278 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: and Juan Soto that you could point out and say, like, 279 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: look at that terrible contract that this team is saddled with. Right, 280 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. I'm hindsight is twenty 281 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: twenty and im and I'm cherry picking a couple of 282 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: names there. But you know, and I was against this, 283 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: but maybe it would have made sense to be aggressive 284 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: for Aaron Judge. I don't know if it would have mattered. 285 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: He probably doesn't leave the Yankees, but they weren't in 286 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: on that right. Things like that, like when a superstar 287 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: hits the market, I think it's just time. Like that's 288 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: that's what Jed needs to start rethinking and evaluating. Like 289 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: a lot of it was, you know, searching for answers, 290 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: admitting that he needs to look inward. That was one 291 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: thing that was kind of new. We find we've started 292 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: approaching the subject of is it you know, are are 293 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: you on the hot seat? We didn't glad out ask 294 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: that just yet And I think that's probably next time 295 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: we meet with Jed. Just the straightforward Uh that that concept. 296 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: But how often is he talking to Tom Ricketts? And 297 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: he said, just as they're they're asking questions all the time. 298 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: And he said, if they it's when they stop asking 299 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: questions is when you have to get concerned. Uh. And 300 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: I get what he's saying there, when they're disinterested or 301 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: they're like if they don't see value in talking to Jed, 302 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: then uh, then that's a problem, right. They're they're trying 303 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: to figure these things out too. Uh. He said he's 304 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: looking inward, trying to figure out reevaluating everything and thinking 305 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: about all the decisions he makes. 306 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 307 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: So it's not like he's he thinks he's perfect. I 308 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: just don't like it's really hard for when things are 309 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: not going as expected. I I don't expect them to 310 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: just be like to have many answers. I thought it 311 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: was interesting. Maybe a week ago Chris Young made some 312 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: made they weren't major moves, but he was shaking things 313 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 1: up with the Rangers, Okay, And I get that, Like 314 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: there's not much sometimes you just have to shake things up. 315 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: I get it. I didn't look at those moves and 316 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: say like, oh, okay, yeah, this is going to change 317 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: everything for the Rangers. And I'm not sure that there 318 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: are those moves for the Cubs just yet, so that 319 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: something needs to be done. I know people don't want 320 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: to hear it there. They're five games out of the 321 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: wild Card, Like if they hang around, they need to 322 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: do something to shake this team up and find a 323 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: way to spark something, because you can still get in 324 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: this race, and they're they're at a point where they can't. 325 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: If there's even like that faintest hope, they have to 326 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: cling to it as far as where they are in 327 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: this contention cycle. 328 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll obviously have way more time to do 329 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: like a full accounting of Jet's time. And I think 330 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 2: what we've said earlier still stands of inherited it under 331 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: difficult circumstances. 332 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: I think. 333 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: A lot of his moves like there's no real move 334 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: you're like, oh my god, what was that? Like, it's 335 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: a lot of defensible, like sensible moves. I think it 336 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: just will that get you to the place you want 337 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: to go. And I think how well the Brewers have 338 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: performed is just should be really embarrassing for the Cubs, 339 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: and I think that's going to be a big driving 340 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: force of change just generally speaking. I don't know if 341 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 2: Counsel is going to be like a COGM, but he 342 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: certainly has a lot. 343 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: Of authority and a lot of experience. 344 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 2: And obviously the Brewers were not some one man band. 345 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: It was not the correct council show. There have a 346 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: lot of talented people working here. I did think the 347 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: worst look for the Cubs is just you know, where 348 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 2: is that breath making prospect? And like, why haven't they 349 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: truly been able to figure out the bullpen here? 350 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 3: I mean, you've been on this for a while. 351 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: How many like X Cubs are on the Brewers and 352 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: performing really well or outside any sort of expected standard 353 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: or norm And like where's the trade for William cantreeris Like, 354 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: you know, I don't think you can truly defend trading 355 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 2: Josh Hater at that moment because of the impact in 356 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: the clubhouse. And that's not really an apple to apple 357 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: comparison to anything the Cubs could do. I mean, they 358 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: are on totally ano their financial stratosphere, but like, where's 359 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 2: some of the challenge trades or or the creativity? And 360 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: obviously you know, Michael Bush that looks like a good, 361 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: good trade showed him NAGA, great signing. We're seeing Justin 362 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: Steele really you know, follow up an All Star season 363 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 2: with really emphatic like you know, I want to take 364 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: this team on my back. And he still has what 365 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 2: I think zero wins, so like it just hasn't added 366 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 2: up at all. 367 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 3: And you know, I don't think Jed is someone who. 368 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: Would be exactly like Farhan in San Francisco to where 369 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: he's just basically like you know, calling I'm Scott Boris 370 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: trying to put together any sort of deal, But I 371 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: do think they will be. There will have to be 372 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: some sort of internal plan presented of like, Okay, this 373 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 2: is where he misevaluated, these are our weak spots. This 374 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: is how we address it. This is how we're going 375 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: to shake up this area. This is how we want 376 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 2: to enhance you know, this department, whatever it is. It's 377 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: just hard to you. 378 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 3: Know, run this back again. And I think that process 379 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 3: will probably start here in July. 380 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to, right, they need to start talking 381 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: about what like part of July is dismantling what went wrong? Right, 382 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: I know you again, Jed said you can't he can't 383 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: evaluate it just yet. It's a full season thing. But 384 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: if they don't start winning soon in the next two weeks, 385 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: three weeks, then we're talking about them moving pieces. And 386 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: when you're talking about that, then it's time to evaluate 387 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: how do this go wrong? And when you're moving pieces, 388 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: you have to find a way to I mean the timeline. 389 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: Remember the quote about the timeline when he traded you, Darvish. 390 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: These players' timelines are isn't the contention timeline own own 391 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: Case's in trile a. He needs to be added to 392 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: the forty man at the end of the year if 393 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: the Cubs aren't. If the Cubs aren't in the playoffs 394 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: this season, then Owen Casey's timeline is the same as 395 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: the Cubs, if not quicker, you know, becoming a contender 396 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: like That's so it has become on a acceptable by 397 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: even Jed's own timetable like it just like that's that's 398 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: where we are. I don't know, I don't know how 399 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: else to to kind of evaluate it other than that, 400 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: Like it's about wins and it's about playoff appearances. They're 401 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: not doing those things. So as nice as the system is, 402 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: and I think there are a lot of good things, 403 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: and you name some of them, Michael Bush Tray justin 404 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: steel development, all the pitching development in general, like the bullpen. Sure, 405 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm seeing something though Porter Hodge and Luke Little the 406 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: last few maybe the last week, let's give it. I'm 407 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: seeing flashes and it's like, oh, that's stuff. Hey, there's 408 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: there's stuff and getting out. I I don't I don't 409 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: know if I trust it because a week of a 410 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: relief of good relief isn't isn't anything to rely on that, No, no, 411 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: but but I felt like it's important to mention it 412 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: just so I don't ignore that. Okay, I saw something 413 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: that that hey, maybe there's signs of life there. When 414 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: it comes to development, I do like what they've done 415 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: with pitching development. It's just not enough. And the offense 416 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: falling off the reels. I mean, Patrick, if we had 417 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: this podcast the entirety of theo jed like playoff teams, 418 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: how many times would have we talked about an offense 419 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: that we expected more from. How many times have written 420 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: about it. It's it's a completely different group and it's 421 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: the same it's not happening in the same way. But 422 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: the bottom line is it's underperformance and and and a 423 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: lack of power and runs scored bottom line, you know, 424 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: run scored that those those are important and the Cubs 425 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: don't do it. 426 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean hitting only gets harder, That's what we 427 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: keep hearing. And it just leaves a sense of like, 428 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: you know, are the Cubs keeping up? 429 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 3: Are the Cubs adapting? Are the Cubs on the cutting edge? 430 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: And and I do think, kind of circling back to 431 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: the beginning, this the whole idea of fire and showing intensity, 432 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: and I think there is a little bit something to that. 433 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 3: In terms of. 434 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: Being a Chicago Cup is a very comfortable existence. It's 435 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 2: not the same pressure as wearing the Yankee pinstripessane as 436 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 2: playing in Boston. 437 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 3: It's not. 438 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: Kind of the traveling circus that is the Dodgers that 439 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: keeps you on your toes. 440 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: So I do think that has to be examined. 441 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 2: But at its core, I think this is an issue 442 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: of just kind of roster construction and that the team 443 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: just simply not being good enough or not as good 444 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: as they had hoped. And that's gonna This wasn't the 445 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 2: second half of the season we anticipated covering and podcasting about, 446 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: but we definitely have to be open to that when 447 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: the team president says the selloff could be coming right. 448 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: Uh. We'll have two more episodes this week, one more 449 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: with previewing the Phillies coming into town with our friend 450 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: Matt Gelbt. Like the Phillies are kind of uh, I 451 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: think what Cubs fans would dream of, right, like that 452 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: they have the the team leader, slugger Babe Ruth looking uh, 453 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber, who the Cubs Cubs fans obviously loved at 454 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: one point and I'm sure I still do. And and 455 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: the superstar Nick Castillanos, who is a Cubs very favorite. 456 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: Uh and just like great veteran stud pitching. That the 457 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: type of guys that it's like, oh, we're going to 458 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: the playoffs with Aaron Nolan, Zach Wheeler at the front. Awesome. 459 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: And then they have these guys that pop up out 460 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: of nowhere like Ranger Suarez and I'm blanking, I'm the 461 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: Christopher guy that that they have just signed an extension, 462 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: right yeah, yeah Sanchez? Is that the same Christopher Sanchez? 463 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: Uh? 464 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: But he's been awesome. 465 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 466 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: You know, guys that you don't fully expect, Like that's 467 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: the type. They've built a really nice team, their powerhouse. 468 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: Now they've gone from fun, plucky uh team that that 469 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: was making runs in the playoffs the last two postseasons 470 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: two like, oh, now we're going to dominate the regular 471 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: season two. I think they're a fascinating organization, uh that've 472 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: done it with a lot and in a lot of 473 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: different ways. I'm curious. I'd like to hear more details 474 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: from galb about how, beyond just spending money, how this 475 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: has worked, because it obviously is more than that. The 476 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: Cubs need to figure those things out too, Like there's 477 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: there just hasn't there's not enough results and we know that. 478 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: I I don't know, I I I can't. I can't 479 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: complain about this team any longer. Patrick, So I'm gonna 480 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna move. 481 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 3: On and we'll talk to. 482 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: Enjoy enjoy your say, yeah, I got it. 483 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: Just writing. I gotta drive home from. 484 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: Say there's another podcast tomorrow, right, Yeah, we got another podcast. 485 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: So we got an the podcast tomorrow. Thanks to everyone 486 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: for listening This is Northside Territory. 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