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Speaker 1: think Rick lies about what now that we're recording Rick
Speaker 1: uh Rick here says that when we kind of like
Speaker 1: pitch them sell them so to to female listeners, that
Speaker 1: it doesn't work. No, I think it does work. I
Speaker 1: think that heat may be uh seal the deal. No,
Speaker 1: you know it works on r end, it doesn't work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys are doing everything you can. I just have
Speaker 1: a real hard time believe in it that we could
Speaker 1: say here on this show, like here's this guy Rick,
Speaker 1: nice guy, drone enthusiast um, drone pilot, and then say
Speaker 1: that that he's open to all comers, all female. No, No,
Speaker 1: that's not the right words. He's opened U, he's opened up.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure. About about five minutes
Speaker 1: before we started this podcastment, I think I said, ah,
Speaker 1: let's not talk about that. No, No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: but you said it in a way. We're like. I
Speaker 1: was like, Rick, we're gonna talk about You're like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm cool. He said that he knew that we would. Ye,
Speaker 1: he's he was just saying that because so nothing trickles in. No.
Speaker 1: I get some uh, I don't know. I get a
Speaker 1: few Instagram mess just and then what do you how
Speaker 1: do you vet them? I mean there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of vetting. Maybe every most mostly don't respond. Are you
Speaker 1: on any dating um applications right now? Rick Smith? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But I mean how many Like I don't like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, how many Rick Smiths could be running around
Speaker 1: a lot? Oh, dude, there's probably like a dozen in Bozeman.
Speaker 1: Richard Smith's really pretty common name. Yeah, so people can't
Speaker 1: go find that. You know what probably has happening now,
Speaker 1: I think about I just getting lost in the I
Speaker 1: think there's so many Rick Smiths that we we plugged you.
Speaker 1: I don't say, you know any nice enough guy, and uh,
Speaker 1: the women all come to find you, but they want
Speaker 1: up marrying other ricks other Ricks Smith. That's probably that's
Speaker 1: probably what happens. Well, eventually all those Rick Smiths will
Speaker 1: be married. They'll be like, there's gotta be a single
Speaker 1: Rick Smith out there somewhere and they'll find you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Seth likes this line aquory as much as Steve does,
Speaker 1: which is saying a lot because this is Steve's favorite thing,
Speaker 1: you know, because here's the thing, man, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I've been married a long time, so when I got married,
Speaker 1: there was no When I was like single and dating,
Speaker 1: there were no uh applications an dating apps. You had
Speaker 1: to go like talk to talk to him, you had
Speaker 1: to go down to the bar, so you couldn't just
Speaker 1: sit there, you know, and be flicking through people. So
Speaker 1: I'm interested, and I'm very interested in people who are
Speaker 1: having this experience that I was never able to live. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's not as cracked up as people,
Speaker 1: you know, people that are in committed relationships that look
Speaker 1: look back and be like, oh, I wish there was
Speaker 1: a digital dating app when I was dating. I think
Speaker 1: it's I think it's not that helpful, creates laziness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just a weird. It's hard to tell from a
Speaker 1: picture like how people are, like whether you're attracted to
Speaker 1: them or not, So you end up going what there's
Speaker 1: a lot about a person that doesn't come through on
Speaker 1: a photo that is instantly uh, like you're aware of
Speaker 1: it when you meet the person in like a real stety. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. I don't know that this conversation is gonna
Speaker 1: be interesting, um to our listeners. But I'm sure I
Speaker 1: really do not agree. I could tell pretty much everything
Speaker 1: I need to know, well, because I look at what
Speaker 1: they're doing. No, but it's all curated. I look into
Speaker 1: their I look into their eyes, and I can tell
Speaker 1: you you can do the whole thing if I was
Speaker 1: on there, and uh, you can be well no, I mean,
Speaker 1: let's just say for I mean, for me, heaven forbid,
Speaker 1: I had let's just say factors in life led me
Speaker 1: to have to go beyond there. I would look at
Speaker 1: the pictures and I'd be like, oh, this person's fishing,
Speaker 1: and um, I'm like, oh, you know, I'm attracted to him.
Speaker 1: But then that was the only picture that I'm fishing
Speaker 1: because I would I would look and I'd be like,
Speaker 1: I can tell they really like to fish. They seem
Speaker 1: like a nice person. That's that's very possible. And maybe
Speaker 1: like my god, that girl's got split shot underneath your lip,
Speaker 1: she keeps her wax burns in her lip. I know, click,
Speaker 1: i'd swipe. Yeah, what do you do when you want them?
Speaker 1: You sleep right left? You don't even know? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm done talking about aren't you guests night? How did
Speaker 1: you guys meet your wives? Normal? Yeah? I kind of
Speaker 1: regret that I didn't. You know, see, have any of
Speaker 1: those dating apps right away? You were around? They were
Speaker 1: part of your generation. Like I eight, I already knew her,
Speaker 1: Like when I was I don't know, nineteen, I met her,
Speaker 1: But you still weren't. You didn't You weren't participating in
Speaker 1: the tinder to know, and like right after we started dating,
Speaker 1: Tinder came out. I'm not gonna lie, it was a
Speaker 1: little tempted to just make one to check it out.
Speaker 1: But you met your wife at nineteen? What being in college?
Speaker 1: She's from the farming ranch world? No? No, and you
Speaker 1: met her in college stuck with her? How long you
Speaker 1: been married? Four years? Now? Is it going good? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's great? Has she threatened? She got mad at you
Speaker 1: and acted like she doesn't want to be married anymore?
Speaker 1: Dated from nineteen to twenty four. I guess that seems
Speaker 1: like a reasonable nount of time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Sorry,
Speaker 1: about your name, Danny Morrison married four years. Yes, sir Sean,
Speaker 1: you bet Sean Weaver, just married, just married. Married into
Speaker 1: the farm and ranch community. Married into the farming ranch
Speaker 1: community four months ago. Dream dream we were creative company.
Speaker 1: That's your company, that's right, travel around doing video stuff.
Speaker 1: Did you marry um? Did you marry her just because
Speaker 1: of the land. Now, I always say that I'm the
Speaker 1: guy that everybody hates because he played way above his
Speaker 1: pay grade, meaning like if I knew you and hung
Speaker 1: out with you, I would. I would, That's all there
Speaker 1: is to it. I'd be like, oh, he'd probably know.
Speaker 1: Then I'd meet your wife. And I think that there
Speaker 1: was a mistake. Yeah, definitely, I still think there is.
Speaker 1: She should have swiped left or yeah? What uh to everybody?
Speaker 1: Where you guys live. I live in Volga, South Dakota,
Speaker 1: which is by Brooking, South Dakota. And I live in Britain,
Speaker 1: South Dakota. And you guys met in college in a
Speaker 1: real trashy rental house. Yeah. I liked some of the
Speaker 1: stories you're talking about that you uh, good South Dakota story.
Speaker 1: Do you live with two muskrat trappers? Can we talk
Speaker 1: about this? Live with two muskrat trappers. One was a
Speaker 1: big weed smoker yep, and one didn't like the smoke weed.
Speaker 1: But they like to trap muskrats together. Yep. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: That's a team. It's a good premise of a little film.
Speaker 1: And they didn't just like casually trapped muskrats. It was
Speaker 1: like all day every day. You said they stacked them up.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they had like five deep freezers going with muskrats.
Speaker 1: Did they get You said they got about eight hundred? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that winner I think and nose are in that little
Speaker 1: mini muskrat boom that was a few years ago when
Speaker 1: price is shot up. Uh, my buddies tell me, like,
Speaker 1: what are you saying? They were getting like eight or nine.
Speaker 1: My buddy was saying, like muskrats out of Horroric on Marsh,
Speaker 1: he was getting like eighteen for big big rats. I
Speaker 1: believe it. It was crazy. I mean our one roommate
Speaker 1: like went and bought a brand new mud boat with
Speaker 1: a fancy you know, surface to drive motor and all
Speaker 1: that off muskrat money really set him up. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Now he bought it to go get more muskrats, or
Speaker 1: he bought it, well, he bought it with muskrat money
Speaker 1: and used it to go get more muskrats. Can we
Speaker 1: talk about what later happened to him? Oh he became paranoid? Wow?
Speaker 1: Or no? I mean yeah, okay a little bit. He
Speaker 1: thought it brought up a question we brought up here before,
Speaker 1: just the foundation of the paranoid Well, it just it
Speaker 1: brings up this interesting thing. Uh. Do people to smoke
Speaker 1: a lot of weed like I us think that's smoking
Speaker 1: a lot of weed aide you paranoid? Like it made
Speaker 1: you think the government was doing stuff to you or whatever,
Speaker 1: where there's aliens hanging around whatever. It's all the things
Speaker 1: that weed smokers like to do it with their time. Uh.
Speaker 1: But my brother one day brought up He's like, no,
Speaker 1: I just think that there's the same kind of guy
Speaker 1: that likes to think about aliens and likes to think
Speaker 1: the government's out to get them. Um, likes to smoke weed.
Speaker 1: He could have gone both ways on that deal. Hard
Speaker 1: to know. It's like, you know a lot of people
Speaker 1: I think like all the both. Yeah, he's like, no,
Speaker 1: I like to think about aliens, I like to think
Speaker 1: that the government's out to get me, and I like
Speaker 1: the smoke weed. And that's but I wonder if if
Speaker 1: it's if if it causes it. Smoking a lot makes
Speaker 1: you like alien. I think there's probably a level of
Speaker 1: weed you can smoke to actually get paranoidal, absolutely right,
Speaker 1: it's like or to get it to become an alien
Speaker 1: enthusia Oh yeah, maybe you were just nailing enthusiasts and
Speaker 1: then you smoked a lot of weed and became a professional. Yeah,
Speaker 1: someone will probably send in because we didn't. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been talking like I I got throw in a
Speaker 1: quick correction that uh, A listener sent in a study
Speaker 1: that proves that, um, gluten intolerance is not in fact
Speaker 1: a partisan ailment. M M. I'd always thought it was
Speaker 1: a thing that strikes people on the left, which maybe
Speaker 1: always think it was a weird sickness, like how many
Speaker 1: sicknesses are just well, maybe they're just more vocal about it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: But in fact, gluten intolerance can, in fact does, in
Speaker 1: fact strike both side left hand right, because it's a
Speaker 1: real thing. They actually did a study on this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they asked people like you know whatever, you you know,
Speaker 1: ask them about their politics and asked if they had
Speaker 1: gluten intolerance. And it turns out the right wing people
Speaker 1: can get gluten intolerance. I just say they keep quiet
Speaker 1: about it. That's because they don't want to admit that
Speaker 1: they have some sort of you know, because it's viewed
Speaker 1: as a partisan condition. When I hear it, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: disappointed about Hillary Clinton, all right. I just I just know,
Speaker 1: like gluten intolerant. I'm like, oh, I don't know a
Speaker 1: place like Italy, which they're all about their wheat and
Speaker 1: they have like a whole gluten free deal, because people
Speaker 1: really are gluten gluten in tolerant. I'm pointing out. I
Speaker 1: don't want to dwell on it. I'm just pointing out
Speaker 1: the place whereus wrong. And I just wanted to clarify
Speaker 1: to connect. Correction. Uh, no, one, move on. Are you
Speaker 1: blowing your two toes off with the shotgun? Right? Tell
Speaker 1: us about that. Yeah, So me and a few buddies
Speaker 1: were out hunting geese and a wheat field and uh
Speaker 1: and we were in a layout blind uh kind of
Speaker 1: a deal. And wait, you were in your own or
Speaker 1: you were all we're not. We're playing that game where
Speaker 1: you try to see how many people. Okay, so out
Speaker 1: blind is a coffin? Think of like a coffin with
Speaker 1: doors with doors, right, um and uh. The doors open
Speaker 1: basically like your chest from the tip of your head
Speaker 1: to the in between your toes is bisected and you
Speaker 1: erupt from this coffin in like a semi laying position.
Speaker 1: And the bat there's a little bit of backrest that
Speaker 1: could you a little bit of pitch because if you
Speaker 1: have some powerful abs and you're used to doing sit ups,
Speaker 1: there's no problem. But if you have unpowerful abs, you
Speaker 1: can just be stuck. You can just be stuck. I've
Speaker 1: seen that springboards where you pull a lever up. I
Speaker 1: got one. Yeah, it's an old man when he comes
Speaker 1: up because he used to always be way behind. Be like,
Speaker 1: dang it, Daniel, we gotta we gotta get a new blind.
Speaker 1: I wish made one that spring and I see one
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, the lord of that for him. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: you did a great job, but we should probably set
Speaker 1: the stage a little bit where explain the situation where
Speaker 1: you used a layout blind whichever you guys want. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're out scouting for geese. You see him in a
Speaker 1: wheat field eating. We're gonna go out there and put
Speaker 1: some field decoys out and then lay it out of cover. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: which means you can't right. Well, sometimes use it when
Speaker 1: there is cover, like on a fence line or something
Speaker 1: like that, or in like a kosher patch. That's pretty
Speaker 1: effective too. But let's say you're out on the wheat
Speaker 1: field and there's nothing to hide in and this scenario
Speaker 1: there wasn't. We took the straw gathered up kind of
Speaker 1: fill in. They got this little straps on the side,
Speaker 1: and you just, yeah, you make it look like maybe
Speaker 1: you're like a little hill. Your blinds are you try
Speaker 1: to have a gradual like a graduate. Yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: want to hard anything, so you might brush in the
Speaker 1: edges and stuff anyway. So uh, and then the birds
Speaker 1: come in and they get real clothes, their feet come out,
Speaker 1: and I knows you guys call them their boots down
Speaker 1: to the boot bags. And then you go take get them,
Speaker 1: take them, shoot them, kill him whatever, and everybody pops up.
Speaker 1: Grandpa throws the spring on this thing. Is that like
Speaker 1: a push button? How does that work? It's like a lever?
Speaker 1: You yang? Yeah, the spring shoots you up. So now
Speaker 1: you don't even need to have Now you don't need
Speaker 1: to be able to do any sit ups at all,
Speaker 1: and you can still hunt goose up doesn't need to
Speaker 1: be calibrated. I'm really worried about him. Did Grandpa end
Speaker 1: up on his heels a couple of times? Daniel whind
Speaker 1: that thing down a little bit, just coming a little hot.
Speaker 1: So there you are, you're lay outbline, you blow your
Speaker 1: toes off. Well, let's not we're jumping ahead here. So
Speaker 1: a group of geese coming in with a few buddies
Speaker 1: and uh, it's probably like twenties strong. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just getting named up. It was my first year
Speaker 1: in South Dakota. I was like, oh, yeah, man, never
Speaker 1: really hunted geese much Louisiana Northwest Corner. Yeah, anyway, geese
Speaker 1: are coming. So you rested you a lot of hunting
Speaker 1: and fishing down there. Yeah, you grew up with it. Ye,
Speaker 1: a lot with my grandpa and my dad. Your grandpa's
Speaker 1: still down there and Oklahoma's where he lives and he
Speaker 1: lived there at the time. Did you guys go down
Speaker 1: south catch crayfish much? No? But I did work for
Speaker 1: a crawfish catering company. We boiled up crawfish and no
Speaker 1: it's not. But we've received bags and then cut up
Speaker 1: your arms when you handle them and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: You guys hunt ducks down there all the time. Did
Speaker 1: you fish car a little bit with a ski rope?
Speaker 1: Just red fish and whatnot a little bit, not much
Speaker 1: because it was like six hours away, so none of
Speaker 1: the coastal activities somewhere. No, not really. Do you guys
Speaker 1: get fish, catfish? Oh yeah, flatheads, channels, blues, squirrels, a
Speaker 1: lot of jug lining squirrels. Absolutely. Rabbit still do rabbits, Yeah,
Speaker 1: with dogs. Rabbit that's what I want to do. Man,
Speaker 1: there you are, you blow your toes off. Alright, So
Speaker 1: laying there, geese are coming in, so the way fresh
Speaker 1: El Louisiana, all still pretty Southern accented, freaking out over
Speaker 1: geese coming in because I wasn't used to hunting candy
Speaker 1: geese anyway. So the way the gun lays, there's a
Speaker 1: bar in front, like in between probably about your knees,
Speaker 1: and then there's the feet in front of the bar,
Speaker 1: and so I had to shoot your feet, yeah though
Speaker 1: phoebe being mine and uh so you like rest your
Speaker 1: shotgun on there, and as the geese are coming, I
Speaker 1: slipped the safety off early. Yeah, it's getting ready and
Speaker 1: getting excited. They're about twenty yards away and then uh
Speaker 1: I I'll take him. Gun goes off as a start
Speaker 1: coming up and then I just boom, boom, shoot too
Speaker 1: all excited. Hold on minute, the gun goes off in
Speaker 1: the blind. So I thought in my head, I okay,
Speaker 1: you just don't. I didn't know what's going on. It
Speaker 1: was so excited about the geese blacking out. Still do
Speaker 1: it sometimes, especially with archery. That's just it's tough for
Speaker 1: me anyway. So these uh so, anyway, so I come
Speaker 1: up and then I shoot two geese and I'm like,
Speaker 1: something feels weird. You know, there's pressure. You're you're you're
Speaker 1: I want to dwell on this minute. You're so excited.
Speaker 1: The your gun goes off in not in the blind
Speaker 1: like the guns in the blind. Well, so barrels out
Speaker 1: of the blind. I lift my my the back end
Speaker 1: of the gun so I can vision this as the barrel,
Speaker 1: lift the back end, you know, gun goes off. Boom,
Speaker 1: So the tip of the barrel goes down towards in
Speaker 1: the blind, I mean, not aiming it out at the geese.
Speaker 1: And you were just well, I still got two left.
Speaker 1: I didn't got left, kept going. At what point did
Speaker 1: you realize that your toes were gone, well, I thank you, Seth. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel today at night, I'm getting undressed for this,
Speaker 1: so I'm feeling a little pressure, a little heat, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, something's wrong. So I look at my
Speaker 1: buddies and I then I realized what happened. Stand up,
Speaker 1: free out start running around on it, and I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: I don't. I remember saying like I don't. I think
Speaker 1: I just like kind of grazed him, like I think
Speaker 1: we can keep on because I was so excited to shoots. Oh.
Speaker 1: My buddies like, no, dude, you're you're you're there's a
Speaker 1: hole in your foot. So did you get any geese
Speaker 1: at the two shots shot? Yeah? I believe I doubled
Speaker 1: and my friends say I did. They did, but more
Speaker 1: probably had a sympathy than anything else. Yeah, whatever, that's
Speaker 1: a great story. That is my question. What I had
Speaker 1: tennis shoes because it was August early. That doesn't help.
Speaker 1: And my buddies always said, if you would have had
Speaker 1: steel toe boots, man, just fine, steel toe boots, I
Speaker 1: don't think you would. The thing with a Crimpton You're
Speaker 1: out there was sneakers. Yeah, but this was very noticeable.
Speaker 1: If it's sneakers. Oh yeah, like bottom blown out you
Speaker 1: say that sneaker, No I should have Let's see the shop.
Speaker 1: And so you only lost two on the table. Does
Speaker 1: your wife like this foot? She likes that foot. You
Speaker 1: got a good hunk of look at that. But how
Speaker 1: we explain? How does the big one? And yeah, we've
Speaker 1: got a good shot of this folks who are interesting?
Speaker 1: That interesting and uh, of course you can follow. You
Speaker 1: can sign it on Instagram. Let me let me just
Speaker 1: so no damage to the big toe. Yeah, we gotta
Speaker 1: make sure that the biggest toe in the group. And think, god,
Speaker 1: there was kicking the phone out of my way. Man,
Speaker 1: And she posted I can send you the surgical pictures too,
Speaker 1: please if you can spread those apart, I can get
Speaker 1: Steve's heading to clean the gap. I mean, he'lled up
Speaker 1: pretty nice. Were you married at the time? I was not.
Speaker 1: I like how they kind of man. I like how
Speaker 1: they're solely came back in towards each other. Lobster foot
Speaker 1: a little flaw there. So you got the middle ones,
Speaker 1: a lot of nicknames, three toes, eight toes. You ever
Speaker 1: get athletes foot on that foot? No, not really, just
Speaker 1: on the other one. Yeah, because the toes are tied together.
Speaker 1: I mean, it speaks very much too how close the
Speaker 1: foot was to the barrel, right, because how can it
Speaker 1: there was other toes aren't scratched at all, and it
Speaker 1: being other toes. I didn't know you punched the middle
Speaker 1: out of there, that's probably yeah. Yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: thought you'd whittle away at the edge. I didn't know
Speaker 1: you just blast the middle out of your toes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is missing your two front teeth of toes. Goofy
Speaker 1: if he was missing the edge toes? Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you probably walk a straight linestone. I'm just fine. So
Speaker 1: at what point did like the pain start? Man? About
Speaker 1: five minutes in the pounding and feel like every heart
Speaker 1: beat and where was all that toe pulp? You know
Speaker 1: there wasn't m It's kind of yeah vaporized, didn't vapor
Speaker 1: out there on a steel pellet somewhere it was? It
Speaker 1: was did you look around? Like like if I didn't
Speaker 1: look around, it was freaking out. If I took your
Speaker 1: two toes and a generous cut, because that's a generous cut,
Speaker 1: like it dug down in there. I took those two
Speaker 1: toes up when I put them in a blender and
Speaker 1: ground them up and flung them around you. They're damn sure,
Speaker 1: be puns a foot around this room. Yeah, you're probably right.
Speaker 1: So what happened to the toes? I'll sprayed all over
Speaker 1: the wheat somewhere. It look. I still have the blind
Speaker 1: that I used, and you can see the shot going
Speaker 1: in where it went in the boot bag and then
Speaker 1: coming out the other end. Any blood stains whose hunting
Speaker 1: spot was this? It is mine? Oh? Really? Okay, that's
Speaker 1: tell the land on what happened. You still still haunt
Speaker 1: that spot? H No, I haven't. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: like to go back in that area. I was thinking.
Speaker 1: I was thinking, so it wasn't dan spot. That could
Speaker 1: have added to the hysteria, right, because you're new and
Speaker 1: excited to hunting geese, and if it's your spot that
Speaker 1: I got invited to and I just blew my toes off,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh my god, I'm never gonna get
Speaker 1: invited again. Oh that would go through my mind for sure. Man,
Speaker 1: we were going, You're like, well, yeah, I don't care
Speaker 1: if you it's my spot. We were going. We went
Speaker 1: with a guy that day who like, had never gone before.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever gone since. Imagine nothing trauma
Speaker 1: reducing the competition. So in a couple of minutes, it
Speaker 1: starts to throb in a nake and at first I
Speaker 1: I like that. You said that it felt like a pressure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just pressure and heat, heat and pressure. So then my
Speaker 1: buddy goes and grabs are hunting van. But you still
Speaker 1: hopping around in your sneaker. I did right away, and
Speaker 1: then they were like, calmed down, lay down, pick it up.
Speaker 1: You took the sneaker off. You take the sneak off.
Speaker 1: Sneaker came off at the hospital. Yeah, that's because I
Speaker 1: wanted to do X rays. No, no, no, I don't
Speaker 1: don't know why didn't I take it off. Because we're
Speaker 1: prevented too. It's good to leave that stuff. Did you
Speaker 1: go into shock? Yeah? Oh yeah yeah really yeah? Wow?
Speaker 1: Did I remember my so my buddy just ripping out there.
Speaker 1: We had like this hunting van. Hunting van called it Philly.
Speaker 1: I don't know why we called it Philly, but it
Speaker 1: was a little philly. Yeah, it was a brown band anyway,
Speaker 1: rolled out there. Actually, funny story about this man. One
Speaker 1: time we were pretty tired heading out hunting, almost like
Speaker 1: falling asleep, tired, college, tired and uh out drinking uh
Speaker 1: night before, not too late, but or you were drunk
Speaker 1: when you blew your toes off. No, no, absolutely. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we were out in the van one morning and you
Speaker 1: know that scene from Tommy Boy when the hood, Well
Speaker 1: that happened to us. Everybody is about half asleep. I
Speaker 1: don't know the scene. Oh, so they're driving and the
Speaker 1: hood of the of there is it a van or
Speaker 1: what they have? It was a car, but you can
Speaker 1: just call it your van. And what happened and the
Speaker 1: wind catches the hood and it just slaps up against
Speaker 1: the winch. I bet in cars when that's happened. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: scared the crab. But that was that was a side note.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I remember my buddy Tommy ripping out there
Speaker 1: to grab me, and that's that's about all I remember,
Speaker 1: like because I went after that until we got to
Speaker 1: the hospital. So did your hunting buddies were they? Did
Speaker 1: they help you in any way where you'll be in
Speaker 1: the van, because at that point I was just laying
Speaker 1: on the ground. Wow, were you crying and moaning or
Speaker 1: what I was moaning? I wouldn't say crying. Do do
Speaker 1: you like the moan? You're doing rick. You do it
Speaker 1: no because like and remember you're a young man from
Speaker 1: a tree report. Give us some Yeah, let me set
Speaker 1: your Louisiana used to work for a crawfish care. You
Speaker 1: have a roommate who's a two muskrat trafford roommates once
Speaker 1: mores weed one don't. And you are so excited to hunt,
Speaker 1: very excited, stoked, all your toes off. Now here comes
Speaker 1: shock sets in no moan how he would do it.
Speaker 1: I'm fictured he's going he's going on yeah, yea, but
Speaker 1: a little more twang from a little more, little more learning.
Speaker 1: So they run you down and the cops probably get
Speaker 1: involved because you can't shoot yourself. That's really That's who
Speaker 1: showed up, just asked me how it happened? All right,
Speaker 1: hunting accident, had to report it whatever, Oh, no place
Speaker 1: had to record it. Yeah. I thought any time like
Speaker 1: a any kind of something like that happens, it was
Speaker 1: police involved, No, I guess. But he but the game warden,
Speaker 1: what do you do? When he showed up, he just questioned,
Speaker 1: make make sure you get a plug in your gun,
Speaker 1: checking for wings on and then he said, son, how
Speaker 1: many geese did you get? Was he was the game
Speaker 1: warden sympathetic or what? Oh? Yeah, he felt horrible. He's
Speaker 1: interviewing me. Sorry, was the game warden sympathetic? Yeah? He
Speaker 1: felt horrible that he was even like talking to me
Speaker 1: about it right away because he knew there was no
Speaker 1: monkey business. Right. Probably happened to like seven am, and
Speaker 1: this was nine am by the time he was there
Speaker 1: already morning hunt. Yeah, did you feel like you did
Speaker 1: something irreversible like that you weren't gonna walk? Oh? Man,
Speaker 1: I was so worried. Oh really, yeah, worried about what
Speaker 1: not being able to walk? I didn't tell the severity
Speaker 1: in my head. I didn't know, Like, how did you
Speaker 1: tell what was going on down there? Or was it
Speaker 1: just kind of pulpy weird? Yeah, you could just see
Speaker 1: the like a straight hole through the shoe how many
Speaker 1: years ago? Ten hole through the shoe? Oh, and yeah,
Speaker 1: you didn't want it. There wasn't much blood though, which
Speaker 1: I thought was weird. Oh that is weird. And then uh,
Speaker 1: did they sedate you when you get there? The freaking
Speaker 1: called my parents to make sure that I like a yeah,
Speaker 1: you do not know. They called my parents to make
Speaker 1: sure I wasn't like allergic to morphine or whatever. And
Speaker 1: I was just like, give me the morphine right now,
Speaker 1: you know. And I did an X ray out morphine
Speaker 1: and that was extremely painful. Took the sock off and
Speaker 1: everything is without morphine. Yeah, just because they wanted that
Speaker 1: X ray right away. Just a flesh wound. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: did they did they entertain the idea of or was
Speaker 1: it just like flat out like they're gone. You just
Speaker 1: don't have them anymore. They're gonna make a fake one
Speaker 1: or anything. Not at all. So what's interesting is that
Speaker 1: top weird looking part is actually skinned from my toes.
Speaker 1: I didn't get a good look at the top the
Speaker 1: bottom view. I can show it to you later. I
Speaker 1: got the cow's photo. The skin they got, they got
Speaker 1: that skin. They got that skin on the top. They
Speaker 1: grafted it on there from uh my middle toe and
Speaker 1: the would be the like the pointer finger to the
Speaker 1: index toe. They borrowed some skin from the neighboring toe.
Speaker 1: Ye put it over the wound. But what had happened
Speaker 1: was the one that this toe, that index toe, I
Speaker 1: was just hanging there by a thread. So they cut
Speaker 1: that off right away. The other toe on impact the
Speaker 1: bone had blown out of that toe, so there's no
Speaker 1: bone in it, but they were trying to save it.
Speaker 1: Doctor comes in one day and he's like probably two
Speaker 1: days into surgeries and stuff. He's like, man, you don't
Speaker 1: want that thing hang hanging on stuff and yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: catching on corners. He's like, as well, just cutting off
Speaker 1: we can use it to graphic sure, Doc. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I was like, well what if I keep the toe
Speaker 1: in a jar? You mean I was thinking a jar
Speaker 1: like a necklace for sure, you know, from aldehy or whatever.
Speaker 1: And he was like, oh no, no, no, and mind you,
Speaker 1: this is why I'm while I'm on morphine still and whatever.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh no, no, tons of paperwork. You don't
Speaker 1: want to do that. And for some reason, one of
Speaker 1: my biggest regrets to this day is not having that
Speaker 1: toe in my possession. Oh yeah, man, i'd have It's
Speaker 1: part of me. It's just you know, waste. Yeah, i'd
Speaker 1: have it like a call in your where you put
Speaker 1: your bands and whatnot. I want to I woant to
Speaker 1: took it out and try to catch a walleye with it.
Speaker 1: Some drink with a toe. It's like a bar. There's
Speaker 1: a bar where people lose their toes to frostbite. And
Speaker 1: it's like a, well, I don't know what yeah really was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this happens a lot people lose toes. To know, it's
Speaker 1: like one bar, like you show up to lose a toe. No,
Speaker 1: it's like it's a I don't know, it's at the
Speaker 1: end of the idea roun every space like a little Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: so I don't know what it is. It doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like you do. Know. This is never gonna mean if
Speaker 1: they do, and if we do lure him in, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna hold on him like this, Rick, You see,
Speaker 1: this is one we need Yanni. He's not hearing Google. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I forgot. Yeah, Yanni's still on assignment. So then I imagine, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was like some physical therapy and stuff. And actually
Speaker 1: what's funny is when I met my wife, I would
Speaker 1: never take my socks off because I was so embarrassed
Speaker 1: about it at all. Oh yeah, here we go, even
Speaker 1: though a lot of people down information about my that's fine, right.
Speaker 1: Sour toe cocktail Dawson City. It's a tradition that an
Speaker 1: actual human toe that has been dehydrated and preserved and salt.
Speaker 1: He was a garnish or direct drink of your choice. Oh,
Speaker 1: how much that run a fella, it's the sour tail cocktail?
Speaker 1: How much? So so they have a human toe one
Speaker 1: or multiple Dawson Ukon territory and they'll they'll let you
Speaker 1: have the pleasure of having a drink with the toe in.
Speaker 1: It has to file a lot of paperwork. It's a
Speaker 1: it was a well, there's been multiple toes that have
Speaker 1: been used, but the first one was belonged to a
Speaker 1: minor and rum runner named to Louis. We had a
Speaker 1: frost bitten appendage. It was preserved in alcohol and then
Speaker 1: fifty years later Envy three brought it down to the bar,
Speaker 1: the Sowar Saloon and they put it started putting in
Speaker 1: drinks sour toe cocktail. So just yeah, no, you were
Speaker 1: I was on legacy. You were dead on, he verified himself.
Speaker 1: There you start dating your wife, then, yeah, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: take the socks off, did you? Did you know that?
Speaker 1: You were? Oh? So like she didn't know, so there
Speaker 1: are so you didn't tell her about it. And then
Speaker 1: it comes to be your wedding night. There you are
Speaker 1: in one stipa no, yeah, you get comfortable. So then
Speaker 1: she sees it and she'll discovered here foot's cold. No.
Speaker 1: Then she sees it and bless her art, she thought
Speaker 1: it was a deformity. And then she got worried that
Speaker 1: if we had kids one day that they would also
Speaker 1: have it. Then she asked me about it, and you
Speaker 1: have to be like, well, I can't guarantee you that
Speaker 1: they're not, so back up, back up. That's why you
Speaker 1: gotta tell the tree up front. You hide it from
Speaker 1: that sucks a metaphor start dating, or you hide it from.
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden she sees it whatever however
Speaker 1: that happens. She gets a look at it, and there's
Speaker 1: that little crazy crab claw there. And you don't go like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I shout it off with a shotgun. You
Speaker 1: just be like, yep, it's my foot. That's the way
Speaker 1: it is. I just didn't talk about it. She like
Speaker 1: saw it when I I don't know, when I was
Speaker 1: putting shoes on or something. I don't know, and she
Speaker 1: wasn't like, good God. She didn't say anything for a
Speaker 1: little while. Then she brought it up. That's a good woman.
Speaker 1: She was a good woman. I like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: because you have to say, like, through the act of reproduction,
Speaker 1: our children are not likely to have this not exactly,
Speaker 1: but I cannot guarantee you that our children will not
Speaker 1: have this. They grew up to be goose hunters. There
Speaker 1: is the man if they black out, when twenty geese
Speaker 1: are locked up, blackout to start shooting random directions, shooting
Speaker 1: doubles and toes Well, that's a good argument for keeping
Speaker 1: your gunpoint in safe direction and for not taking your
Speaker 1: safety off fairly in the lamp line. I'm real strict
Speaker 1: about it now any time this morning, man, I I
Speaker 1: can't tell you how many times I told the safety
Speaker 1: quickly quickly. Well, yeah, but you're also in like a
Speaker 1: safe position, yeah, sitting there. What I'm saying that Like?
Speaker 1: I do it though, Yeah, it's hard not to. I
Speaker 1: don't throw it. If I'm using a shotgun with a
Speaker 1: with a tang safe on it, you know, like a
Speaker 1: film safe, I'll just usually throw it when I go
Speaker 1: to shoulder of the gun. But with a trigger guard safety,
Speaker 1: I'll click it ahead of time. It's really hard not to.
Speaker 1: But in a layoutline, I advise everyone not to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, got two doubles with three shells, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: two doubles double on geese, double on toes um And
Speaker 1: how long it take the heel all up. I was
Speaker 1: hunting again like two weeks. Good for you, my buddy.
Speaker 1: Big shout out to my bud Tom Novak. He uh,
Speaker 1: he's always helping me, carrying decoys out, taking me hunting
Speaker 1: because you were a little limpy. Oh yeah, doctor got
Speaker 1: all mad at me for hunting all the time. And
Speaker 1: actually my mom came and stayed with me for a
Speaker 1: while when I was first. Did you do your mom
Speaker 1: came out and stayed with you because you shot your
Speaker 1: toes off just for a couple of weeks. What do
Speaker 1: you think about when I was going through physical therapy
Speaker 1: and stuff? Oh it was that serious. Did it feel
Speaker 1: funny walking around? Yeah? Oh, you can't lose a toe
Speaker 1: without doing physical It was really part of the foot.
Speaker 1: You're not a flip flop man, Absolutely not, my buddy,
Speaker 1: though I can tell by looking at you. On my
Speaker 1: twenty first birthday, my buddy made me one of those
Speaker 1: flip flop sandals and puttied to fake toes. You guys
Speaker 1: hang out with a good, good crew of guys. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Physical therapy Huh? Do you still have those shoes with
Speaker 1: the whole on it? I don't. They're probably threw them
Speaker 1: with because the bio bio hazard. Yeah, thanks for Sharon.
Speaker 1: I can't think of any more to ask you about
Speaker 1: just now. Are you glad it happened or not glad
Speaker 1: to happen? I don't know. It's kind of part of
Speaker 1: my identity now. I'm lucky that it wasn't worse. Safer
Speaker 1: hunter now probably a lot safer hunter. And I'm mindful
Speaker 1: of other people in layout blinds, and that's something people
Speaker 1: need to remember. I'm trying to think of any good
Speaker 1: application for lying where you'd be like, um, I could
Speaker 1: count on my hands and feet, you know what. You
Speaker 1: know what my least favorite how many times I write
Speaker 1: and people's right ahead goes their their head goes to twenty,
Speaker 1: but you're talking about eighteen. Yeah, at least favorite ducks.
Speaker 1: At least favorite expression is shot yourself in the foot
Speaker 1: on that one. Hey, when guys say that to me, huh,
Speaker 1: all right, that's great, man. I mean, I'm not glad
Speaker 1: that it happened, but it's just really well, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: my father was shot in the foot by a shotgun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he he because of who shot him. My dad
Speaker 1: hid what happened and lied about what happened and had
Speaker 1: a hobble around on crutches, and they didn't tell anybody.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. How severe was it he had? I think
Speaker 1: it was camera was like thirteen or he had a sigh.
Speaker 1: He had a huge foot, he had a size thirteen ft.
Speaker 1: But I feel like camer was like thirteen or twenty.
Speaker 1: Pellets are stuck in the um stuck in his foot? Really?
Speaker 1: Yea palets? No, he got it from a distance then, nope,
Speaker 1: point blank, point blank hunting rabbits guy was walking along.
Speaker 1: You know how you do thumb cock in your shotgun
Speaker 1: and releasing the hammer. Yeah, so he's one of his
Speaker 1: guys walking around fiddling around, cocking it, releasing it, cockingant,
Speaker 1: releasing it, just nervously thumb slip. Yeah, crazy Yeah. Right
Speaker 1: after this was right after the war, refer Wal War two.
Speaker 1: And he said that it always the irony of it
Speaker 1: that he uh made it all through World War two
Speaker 1: and never got scratched by a bullet and then came
Speaker 1: home and probably got shot in the foot. Yeah something,
Speaker 1: uh man, I want to talk about duck hunting a
Speaker 1: little bit. Call tell everybody about our duck hunt. Um well,
Speaker 1: I guess as far as like duck hunting goes. It's
Speaker 1: just very good duck hunting. There's a lot of birds around.
Speaker 1: Good as it could be. I mean, I mean, I
Speaker 1: I really think so. I mean, you could, I guess,
Speaker 1: be in a situation where you go bay, wait wait, wait, right,
Speaker 1: and everybody's got their limits really fast, and you're at
Speaker 1: the coffee shop at seven in the morning or something
Speaker 1: like that. But um ours are taking a little bit
Speaker 1: longer here in two days. But it's I mean, you're
Speaker 1: never in that situation where you're really feeling like we
Speaker 1: are in the wrong area. This isn't gonna work out. Um.
Speaker 1: There's always ducks flying, and it's just very incredibly ducky.
Speaker 1: Like the UM. I struggle with the word habitat. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm not describing it well by saying habitat.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's just a giant food source right now.
Speaker 1: There's soybeans and corn everywhere that have not been cut. UM.
Speaker 1: The fields are flooded heavily with water, not by um
Speaker 1: really like the constructs of man. They're just it's just
Speaker 1: crazy weather cycle. M that this area is holding a
Speaker 1: ton of water and that water is spilled out into
Speaker 1: the agricultural fields. So the fields have cover by the
Speaker 1: way of un harvested food crops. They have food because
Speaker 1: their food crops like soy and corner bean, corn, soy
Speaker 1: and corn and m and then there's water. So it's
Speaker 1: like an absolute utopia for ducks. Um, Yeah, corn fields
Speaker 1: and needy water. Well, I don't know if is that
Speaker 1: deep in some spots for sure. I'd say where we
Speaker 1: were sitting today it was any Oh, yeah, we were
Speaker 1: in a needy corn field. Yeah, can you talk? Can
Speaker 1: you discuss Shawan? The scope of the flooding here pretty
Speaker 1: much from well now in North Dakota too, they weren't
Speaker 1: flooded earlier in the year. They're flooded now. Well, I
Speaker 1: guess the best way to put it is northeast South Dakota.
Speaker 1: All of eastern South Dakota really is at like three
Speaker 1: above annual preset on the air so man, which is
Speaker 1: an unrealistic number that seems like a weird number to
Speaker 1: just like throw out there kind of casually. But the
Speaker 1: lakes in general have risen anywhere from like five to
Speaker 1: twelve feet depending on the lake. And then you have
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of acres of flooded corn and beans,
Speaker 1: and even counting this spring, you know, you had two
Speaker 1: point eight million acres of like unplanted crop in southa
Speaker 1: wet to plant, to wet to plant. So and it's
Speaker 1: that we're saying around here, zero heart, zero harvest, no
Speaker 1: one's harvest, no one's harvest, is the thing we were
Speaker 1: commenting on our drive back tonight. We finally saw a
Speaker 1: combine starting to roll. Oh, just as we are leaving town,
Speaker 1: there was a combine rolling. But that that's the only
Speaker 1: combine I've seen Catton Corner in the field. So there's
Speaker 1: the first one. When I hear the word flood, I
Speaker 1: think of like a river. No, that that's so weird
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, it's like it's the whole time you're
Speaker 1: getting ready for this and you're talking about the flooding. Right.
Speaker 1: I had the same image too, that you're like in
Speaker 1: a big floodplain of a river and the waters high. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that the strange part about here. We're in what's
Speaker 1: called the Catoda Prairie. It's a set of hills in
Speaker 1: eastern South Dakota formed by the James Lobe of a glacier.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of glacier. Off the top
Speaker 1: of my head. The James Lobe and the Des Moines
Speaker 1: Lobe split parted around these hills, which eventually formed the
Speaker 1: James River Valley and then the Des Moines River Valley,
Speaker 1: and those glaciers kind of cut around this set of hills,
Speaker 1: and the hills are wand right out flattened it right out,
Speaker 1: and the hills are a closed water basin, meaning there's
Speaker 1: no real rivers, I mean on the sides or south
Speaker 1: end of the cat or the north end of the
Speaker 1: So there's a couple of creeks and rivers, but in
Speaker 1: general the water doesn't leave. So it's the water here
Speaker 1: is pre sip dependent, Like the water can't come from
Speaker 1: anywhere else. It comes from here, and here a loan.
Speaker 1: So if you have a heavy winter of snow and
Speaker 1: heavy summer of rain, you're gonna have a lot of water,
Speaker 1: and then you know, you go into your drought cycles,
Speaker 1: and it's the other way around. The water rising here
Speaker 1: is so extreme that there are um farm houses with
Speaker 1: water up to the ground floor windows. Yeah, silos that
Speaker 1: are submerged. You have entire like old farmsteads, you know,
Speaker 1: we can even say maybe fifties sixty year old farmsteads
Speaker 1: on islands, but then you have you know, newer houses
Speaker 1: house is built in the last fift twenty years now
Speaker 1: on islands, like livable houses that people had to move
Speaker 1: their stuff, had to move their stuff out of this
Speaker 1: summer by boat and they're not living out there, not
Speaker 1: living in their own house. And roads that vanish. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole state highways. Yeah, like somebody went about playing
Speaker 1: those highways thinking, oh, these highways are in a place
Speaker 1: that's probably not going to get flooded, right, oh very yeah,
Speaker 1: these are like full on roads. Yeah. They were thinking
Speaker 1: that this is just a road now and then it'll
Speaker 1: just be a road. Yeah. But like people playing around
Speaker 1: the huge like okay, maybe a year or two we
Speaker 1: get like some heavy rains and these areas will be
Speaker 1: low lyne and get flooded. So we're gonna build this
Speaker 1: road in this place that doesn't flood and it's under yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean there's US Highway eighty one. Highway was for
Speaker 1: a while ten has gone underwater, yeah, or portions of
Speaker 1: it gone. A lot of them have been built up since.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like US Highway eighty one right now still closed,
Speaker 1: been closed since May or June. I want to talk
Speaker 1: about what it means for the for the lakes and
Speaker 1: lake access, But first of all, about what it means
Speaker 1: for I mean, obviously it's it's devastating to farmers, but
Speaker 1: are people on average that's something that's covered on average
Speaker 1: by UM. This flooding is a crop insurance and stuff
Speaker 1: and and and I honestly don't know much about that.
Speaker 1: Um to what degree you're economically exposed when this happens.
Speaker 1: It can't be pretty, No, it can't be um luck
Speaker 1: not luckily. I really don't think there's an insurance situation where, uh,
Speaker 1: you're not missing a beat right where it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: thank got it all flooded. Yeah, we'll get it. We'll
Speaker 1: get it better next year. Yeah. I don't think I
Speaker 1: can't look around here and imagine that situation. I think
Speaker 1: I think some folks are getting real hard hit to
Speaker 1: the point where, um, they're looking at different means of livelihood. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I saw an article today I didn't authenticated, so that
Speaker 1: might not be true, but it was South Dakota News
Speaker 1: article forty three farms in South Dakota have gone bankrupt
Speaker 1: in the last two weeks. So, I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: hard on people. Prices aren't exactly good either, so oh
Speaker 1: grain prices right, which it doesn't matter if you can't
Speaker 1: go out stuff anyway, So that'll that'll drive him up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So ducks love it, man, ducks love it. It's well
Speaker 1: soybean fields underwater. I mean like he was, thousands and
Speaker 1: thousands of acres of crop land underwater. And because this
Speaker 1: area is so rich with slow environments. To begin with,
Speaker 1: a lot of these fields have you know, slews that
Speaker 1: were in the field where the farmers have driven around
Speaker 1: him planted around them. But then those slews have bloated
Speaker 1: and flooded up into the habitat around So now you've
Speaker 1: got these isolated slews out of sight, out of mind,
Speaker 1: which is what a duck wants out in the middle
Speaker 1: of nowhere, just loaded. Then the cover is food and
Speaker 1: they can land out there and swim up into the
Speaker 1: cornfields land and open water in a slough and then
Speaker 1: swim up into the corn sleep and eat, be lazy. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: ducks like it. Uh. One of the more interesting things
Speaker 1: around here is what it means like this, this historic
Speaker 1: high water, which is happening a couple of times in
Speaker 1: the last thirty years, right, is Uh, it's kind of
Speaker 1: interesting to think about. Where as anyone who's listening knows
Speaker 1: you got like a lake, right, Uh, in a lake
Speaker 1: will have a boat launch and or whatever. It's a
Speaker 1: beach boat launched whatever the hell of park. And you
Speaker 1: go down and you put your boat in the lake.
Speaker 1: You then proceed you just drive around the lake. You
Speaker 1: don't need to go, You don't go ask everyone who
Speaker 1: lives on the lake's permission if it's okay for you
Speaker 1: to be out on the lake. Right, it's just once
Speaker 1: you're on the lakes, the boat launch, you're on the lake,
Speaker 1: You're where you want, You're out in the water, and
Speaker 1: it's just like the lake is treated as public land. Uh. Here,
Speaker 1: there's a it's a fair to call it a fight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's real contentious there for a while. It's kind of
Speaker 1: taking a back seat now, but yeah, it's real contentious
Speaker 1: for a while. We're imagine that you have so imagine
Speaker 1: like everyone who's listening to imagine their own lake. They
Speaker 1: know about where they put it, where they've ever taken
Speaker 1: a boat out boating, And you have the point where
Speaker 1: you launch the boat and then you just proceed to
Speaker 1: go where you want. Now, imagine that that lake increases
Speaker 1: in size tenfold and it's now spread up uh and
Speaker 1: subsumed houses, fields, yards, fences, fences, and you put your
Speaker 1: boat in at the boat launch. Do you now do
Speaker 1: you like you always done and go wherever the lake is,
Speaker 1: or do you now impose these imaginary lines of where
Speaker 1: the lake used to be and the new part of
Speaker 1: the lake is off limits. That's a pretty good way
Speaker 1: of putting it. That yard that used to be here
Speaker 1: is feet below you, with a fans line and a mailbox,
Speaker 1: maybe underwater, underwater, the whole kitten caboodles underwater. But what
Speaker 1: you see is lake lake. So if a guy didn't
Speaker 1: know it hadn't been there before, and he goes down
Speaker 1: there and launches his boat, he just thinks it's a
Speaker 1: big damn lake. But then all of a sudden, as
Speaker 1: someone saying, hey, you're riding your boat over my yard. Yea,
Speaker 1: which is below you, he says, I don't get out
Speaker 1: of my yard, get off my law. You were saying,
Speaker 1: you know, this is a major issue now. Property taxes one.
Speaker 1: You know, if it's seasonally flooded, it's one thing, But
Speaker 1: then the window seasonally flooded become like permanently flooded, and
Speaker 1: then the lakes like it's there right, there's there's so
Speaker 1: many facets to it all, like we're talking about hundreds
Speaker 1: of lakes, hundreds you're talking altogether. I want to say,
Speaker 1: can't remember the number. It's around three hundred thousand acres
Speaker 1: of water we're talking about altogether of Is that public
Speaker 1: or is it not? And so you have two classifications.
Speaker 1: And I was gonna say, now, go back in time
Speaker 1: to the when they back when they used just come
Speaker 1: up with weird explanations and stuff and talk about when
Speaker 1: South Dakota was founded. So in eighteen sixty eight, the
Speaker 1: federal government, federal massacre. Very true, very true. Eighteen sixty
Speaker 1: eight they or the first patent for the diaphragm call
Speaker 1: m right around there. Can you believe that? Crazy? Was
Speaker 1: it a sixty eight kl? Yeah? Sixty? And also this
Speaker 1: some bitch had he patented that year. Cal was pointing out,
Speaker 1: why was he not busy with the Civil War? No? Six? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: the yeah, the uh how did we cover that? No,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the guy that came up the first
Speaker 1: patented the diaphragm, and he patented basically what we used today,
Speaker 1: same exact things, there's different materials, and you pointed out
Speaker 1: it seems like you'd have been thinking about other things
Speaker 1: back then, Yeah, because he was from Alabama, Alabama, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about a reconstruction in the SUS
Speaker 1: dealing with the car post Sigars Civil War like and
Speaker 1: Yankees running around trying to tell you what I thought
Speaker 1: it was a good thing to where it was like
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, we check this out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he still got just trying to take his mind
Speaker 1: off more. But no matter what springs are coming, So
Speaker 1: what tell we're talking about? Someone comes and says, what, hey,
Speaker 1: you guys need to figure out what's a lake and
Speaker 1: what's not. So a bunch of guys rode around and
Speaker 1: if it was more than four ft deep and they
Speaker 1: believed it had a permanent shoreline, they classified it as
Speaker 1: a meandered lake, which is a deceiving term. It's so deceiving.
Speaker 1: I wish I would have just called it, like a
Speaker 1: cupcake lake or whatever, a meandered lake, because it's the
Speaker 1: opposite of what it should be. But they so they
Speaker 1: drive around right around, Yeah, probably on horses or whatever,
Speaker 1: and they're they're like yeah that's a lake. Yep. Another
Speaker 1: thing like nah lake and they mark them all yep.
Speaker 1: And so they classify I want to say it was
Speaker 1: two seventy by these of water or something like that
Speaker 1: as meandered. So the the lake bed with state owned
Speaker 1: property of South Dakota, the ones they felt looked like
Speaker 1: a lake, right, the ones that they felt would go dry,
Speaker 1: and some of them they said, you know, lake, but
Speaker 1: could go dry. Uh. Yeah, there's even old map where
Speaker 1: we're standing. There's an old map that says like something
Speaker 1: lake and says could go dry. Yeah, lake but could
Speaker 1: go but but could go dry and uh, those were
Speaker 1: classified as non meandered. So those were put into deedon
Speaker 1: title private property available for purchase, and a large portion
Speaker 1: of that land ended up being waterfowl production areas South Dakota,
Speaker 1: game production areas, you know, things of that nature. Probably land.
Speaker 1: H Well, then I believe it's the sixties. Pretty much
Speaker 1: everything goes dry, even the meandered lakes. Like I said before, yeah,
Speaker 1: big drought. These lakes are so dependent on precipitation, like
Speaker 1: they're gonna wildly fluctuate because they don't have a consistent
Speaker 1: they don't have water coming from the north, or water
Speaker 1: coming from the west or anything like that. Whatever happens
Speaker 1: here is what happens to the lakes. There's not a
Speaker 1: big mountain range getting packed full of snow every winter
Speaker 1: and in the spring that snow comes down and fills
Speaker 1: up the lake. And so what's happening not at all,
Speaker 1: And so you have these lakes all go dry. Some
Speaker 1: of our biggest lakes, like Lake Thompson is a good
Speaker 1: example of one, one of the biggest natural lakes in
Speaker 1: South Dakota completely bone dry. What about that one we're
Speaker 1: fishing not tonight that's never been dry? Has it? Um?
Speaker 1: I don't think it was ever completely dry. I know
Speaker 1: is waitable at one point really like you could duck
Speaker 1: on it. Did you say, like in the sixties it
Speaker 1: was like yeah, tiny, yeah, small, real small. And now
Speaker 1: it's twenty rear fishing, Yeah, I think it's Ye went
Speaker 1: from a puddle thirty five thirt you know, thirty five
Speaker 1: thirty six ft deep spots And so, Rick, did you
Speaker 1: enjoy what did you enjoy more? Did you enjoy more
Speaker 1: filming me getting all those ducks or getting all those walleyes?
Speaker 1: What was better for you? Keeping in mind that I
Speaker 1: got that really big walleye. I mean, that's pretty that's
Speaker 1: pretty enjoyable. Any time you get your when you get
Speaker 1: a big smile on your face and I'm filming, it
Speaker 1: makes me happy. Insides, Do you like you liked me
Speaker 1: getting the For the record, Stephen Ronella was healing some
Speaker 1: smiling to big smile that large water force TV. You smile,
Speaker 1: but like a gent and genuine, first genuine smile. If
Speaker 1: only your mother could have been here to see it. Well,
Speaker 1: now we got to tell him how big the wal
Speaker 1: I was monster, big old fat belly guilted into turn
Speaker 1: and loose, and somehow cal got to keep his there's
Speaker 1: another monster cat that night. A lot of folks, a
Speaker 1: lot of folks said it couldn't be beaten. But with
Speaker 1: a lot of hard work and determination. Oh, Steve came through,
Speaker 1: came through and whooped it. Uh. So that lake has
Speaker 1: always had some water in it. Yeah, so go on
Speaker 1: to what happened. So historically they're like, this is a lake.
Speaker 1: But then low and behold, it does go dry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they go dry. And then and when the lake
Speaker 1: goes dry and you live on the edge of the lake,
Speaker 1: your yard does grows and grows and grows and then
Speaker 1: the water comes up in your yard, shrinks and shrinks
Speaker 1: and shrinks. The basin of Lake Thompson, they used to
Speaker 1: graze cattling, and now this year it's overtaking homes. So
Speaker 1: what happened is, you know, in the seventies, it's it's
Speaker 1: progressed since seventies. The lakes filled back up in the seventies,
Speaker 1: or at least the basins did. The eighties they expand more,
Speaker 1: and then the nineties they hit a unreal growth pattern
Speaker 1: that everyone says is never gonna happen again, you know.
Speaker 1: And is this one to start hearing the word flood.
Speaker 1: This is when you hear the words flood highest water
Speaker 1: they had in a hundred years, at least by far,
Speaker 1: because it's the highest water they've had since the surveying
Speaker 1: in eighteen sixty eight. And that was mainly, you know,
Speaker 1: n I believe it was floods being the worst. So
Speaker 1: early to mid nineties, all of a sudden you have
Speaker 1: these lakes that were confined to a basin filling out,
Speaker 1: flooding private land like you were mentioning, those are the
Speaker 1: Meandered Lakes. But then all of a sudden you have
Speaker 1: these uh, slews, really marshes that no one considered lakes
Speaker 1: all of a sudden now way too deep to be
Speaker 1: considered just a slough. Now, all of a sudden, there's
Speaker 1: there's lakes that are nineteen twep that before we're just
Speaker 1: you know, a duck marsh and the map doesn't show it,
Speaker 1: and the map doesn't show it as a lake. And uh,
Speaker 1: I mean there's stories out there, you know, farmers moving
Speaker 1: their cattle up out of these basins the night it
Speaker 1: started raining hard and they've never seen the land again since,
Speaker 1: and and and correct me if I'm wrong here. But
Speaker 1: eventually people started putting fish in these things too, right, yeah, so,
Speaker 1: and not just people, but sometimes the state a lot
Speaker 1: of times state. Yeah so you have a you have
Speaker 1: a mix of the state seeing recreate, recreational opportunity, value, value, revenue.
Speaker 1: We got to do something with this water. Well, let's
Speaker 1: put fish in it. Why wouldn't you, especially when I
Speaker 1: see some water Heck, yeah, I get the one in
Speaker 1: both that especially because you had, you know, public right
Speaker 1: aways going through this, and you have a pretty substantiated
Speaker 1: history of public water access, you know, like the Public
Speaker 1: Trust Doctrine, the Desert act Um, there was a U. S.
Speaker 1: Supreme Court ruling. Anyway, there's a few different you know,
Speaker 1: historic pieces of not legislation, well legislation and judicial rulings
Speaker 1: that they are. They looked at as, oh, this is
Speaker 1: justification that that's public water, and so why wouldn't the
Speaker 1: state put fish in public water. So you have the
Speaker 1: state pulling down flooded roads dumping fish. You have um
Speaker 1: people doing bucket biology. That's what a lot of people
Speaker 1: call it. Champion Yeah, catch going and catching some yellow.
Speaker 1: A lot of people did it when I was going up.
Speaker 1: I mean every I mean, nothing happened just where I'm at.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like you go out, we'll just take tonight,
Speaker 1: for instance, we went out and caught a bunch of walleye.
Speaker 1: We would have saved some of those walley for eating,
Speaker 1: but maybe we keep a couple alive. And on the
Speaker 1: way home, we swing into some spot that's a little
Speaker 1: bit closer to home and we just let a few
Speaker 1: of those walleye go. I always picture it happened like
Speaker 1: this too. Where you go out your fishing. Say you
Speaker 1: go off fishing blue gulls, and you gotta bucket and
Speaker 1: you got right away, baby, have you got three and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh man, I'm gonna clean up a whole
Speaker 1: mess him. Well, then fishing goes to ship. You got
Speaker 1: three bluegos in your bucket? Or four? Would I say?
Speaker 1: How many? You get? These three? So he's got three
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, I really want a dirty to
Speaker 1: knife over this. You know what I'll do dump them
Speaker 1: in that in the lake by my house. Oh, you man,
Speaker 1: a great example. I'm not sure what the statute of
Speaker 1: limitations are here, but uh, we don't. We'd always go
Speaker 1: fish these bass ponds when you were young, early early
Speaker 1: on in high school, and one of us his folks
Speaker 1: had a water feature, little pond in their backyard that
Speaker 1: they like to maintain and keep looking nice. And we
Speaker 1: thought it'd be funny or cute or something to take
Speaker 1: a readier sunfish, pumpkin seed or whatever, um and that
Speaker 1: we had caught and throw it in that water feature,
Speaker 1: which that is funny and cute. And our buddy's mom
Speaker 1: thought it was great. But then eventually, as the summer progressed, um,
Speaker 1: and you know, we had long forgotten about this thing.
Speaker 1: Um fall comes in and they're going to turn the
Speaker 1: water feature off, and she's you know, we show back
Speaker 1: up at some point doing whatever we were doing, and
Speaker 1: the water features dry and we're like, oh, some of
Speaker 1: it gone. What happened to that fit? And she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know had turned this thing off, so I just
Speaker 1: took it down throw it in the river. Right, So
Speaker 1: there's another leg incidental, Yeah, another way it happens. I
Speaker 1: don't know why the hell we're on this, but it's
Speaker 1: just interesting. You would you used to be able to
Speaker 1: they're trying to change us now, but you'd go and
Speaker 1: like get bait. So you buy fishing bait. Like in
Speaker 1: the winter, you're going be like, oh, I'm gonna buy
Speaker 1: a dozen sucker minos to fish northeast, and you get
Speaker 1: your sucker minos and then you wind up driving over
Speaker 1: three counties and you fish. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you just dumped suckermentos down the whole. And then maybe
Speaker 1: they got maybe the things that are in there, maybe
Speaker 1: supposed to have a thing of fat headed mentals, but
Speaker 1: you just got a bunch of baby suckers, like real suckers.
Speaker 1: Because now and then, on my late growing up, now
Speaker 1: and then there's no suckers in that lake. But now
Speaker 1: and then you stand on the dock and here comes
Speaker 1: cruising by a freaking giant sucker and rs so much
Speaker 1: was ours. That's like an ice fishing bait sucker that
Speaker 1: he never found a mate, but he just lives in
Speaker 1: the lake. He's got a little circle hunk scar in
Speaker 1: his back. Yeah, and his dorsalman's got all below it
Speaker 1: because some guy was ice fishing with them. So I
Speaker 1: think we've established the people's moving fish around. So yeah,
Speaker 1: And honestly, I think most of it was a state.
Speaker 1: But in general, lakes get stocked because what else are
Speaker 1: you gonna do with the access of water. Well, as
Speaker 1: you've learned too from Col, if you listen to Cow's
Speaker 1: we can review. Uh everybody eyes you say when you're
Speaker 1: a kid, they'd say, oh, fish fish eggs stick to
Speaker 1: the bird's feet, and the birds fly around and move
Speaker 1: the eggs everywhere. But Cal reported on the case an
Speaker 1: instance where um fish eggs were surviving in bird ship.
Speaker 1: Remember that, Cal, Yeah, in the Yeah, I mean that
Speaker 1: makes sense. It was shutting out birds stuff so fast
Speaker 1: shout out viable fish eggs. They probably eat a lot
Speaker 1: fish and moved fertilized a bird moved fertilized fish eggs
Speaker 1: and delivered it to a new water system and its species.
Speaker 1: Things about that, right, And they're not like actively trying
Speaker 1: to eat fish eggs. They're just down there sipping through
Speaker 1: and eating grasses and everything. And think all the eggs
Speaker 1: that are and then all the stuff that lays eggs
Speaker 1: ait stick on like cart lay eggs a stick on grass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then frogs and salamanders and all that stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: they're just siving that stuff out that spoon bill my
Speaker 1: shot today. It was probably a carrier of a vector
Speaker 1: of all sorts of species. And Cal found three salamanders
Speaker 1: dandies too, yeah, big old big honk and salamanders one
Speaker 1: the size of of a hand human hand. And then
Speaker 1: he found two of them making love. Oh, and I
Speaker 1: mean it just keeps getting better because when I was
Speaker 1: backing in the boat today, jumped out of the truck,
Speaker 1: caught a frog with my left hand, and caught a
Speaker 1: toad with my right hand. This place is like her
Speaker 1: central I mean for herpetologist. Yes, I mean, if if
Speaker 1: you're an overgrown kid like myself, this place is just
Speaker 1: a wonder Rick's tender handle as rong as your jokes
Speaker 1: I can make about that. Uh So, people move fish
Speaker 1: all over damn place. They get the lakes get full
Speaker 1: fish yep. And it turns out that some people don't
Speaker 1: like fishermen over their land, even if those fishermen are
Speaker 1: trying to target fish. That there's sting to the state, right.
Speaker 1: And so you have a well recorded history of the
Speaker 1: water itself being held in the public trust, and then
Speaker 1: you have public or you know, state owned or state
Speaker 1: stocked fish in those public waters. But then the argument is, well,
Speaker 1: just because it's public water doesn't mean you have the
Speaker 1: right to access my land. Yeah. Now this is where
Speaker 1: this is where I This is where this starts to
Speaker 1: make its own gravy, as they say, right, so this
Speaker 1: is where it gets goofy because I ask you a
Speaker 1: series of questions. Go ahead, this is how I'd like
Speaker 1: to handle this. We got an existing lake, and everybody,
Speaker 1: like those boys back in, those boys are like, that's
Speaker 1: a lake, okay, And there it lives. And the lake
Speaker 1: just lives there. Then all of a sudden, lo and behold,
Speaker 1: last handful of years, the lake metastasizes. That's not a
Speaker 1: word I use often, but I don't use it lightly.
Speaker 1: The lake a task asize us and grows big and
Speaker 1: there used to be a boat launch, but now the
Speaker 1: boat launch is gone. The boat launch is on our
Speaker 1: twelve ft of water, and the lake girls girls, girls,
Speaker 1: girls grows and covers up a highway, covers up a road.
Speaker 1: In that case, where it was everyone agreed that it
Speaker 1: was a lake, and the lake now pass up the
Speaker 1: boat launch and covers a highway or a county road.
Speaker 1: Public right away, a public right away. Are there people
Speaker 1: saying that you can't use that lake at its current shoreline? Correct,
Speaker 1: because they're saying you'd have to cross my property to
Speaker 1: get to what used to be the lake. And even
Speaker 1: then they just in general, it doesn't matter if you're
Speaker 1: crossing or not. They don't want a boat over top
Speaker 1: of their land. But what about what used to be
Speaker 1: the lake? If you can somehow magically get your boat
Speaker 1: to the middle, let's say you could, you could manage
Speaker 1: you could helicopter your boat in and get it to
Speaker 1: what was the lake. People they'd be cool with that, right,
Speaker 1: but they don't want you crossing putting it in ten
Speaker 1: ft of water on the new part of the lake. Yeah, yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: you know. There's so there's so many different like opinions
Speaker 1: on what certain people want some guys want to buoy off.
Speaker 1: You know, they're forty acre flooded piece, so they want
Speaker 1: to like mark with boies what it used to be
Speaker 1: the lake and that's where everybody can hang out and
Speaker 1: nobody can fish in this forty acre piece because that's
Speaker 1: my forty acres to fish. But then you know, and
Speaker 1: they'll go out and market with buoy's. Yeah yeah, so
Speaker 1: like mark your like a fence but booi's and they're like,
Speaker 1: by god, this is my part of the lake because
Speaker 1: it used to not be a lake. Right. It's really weird.
Speaker 1: I season driving trucks like right down, a bunch of
Speaker 1: signs sitting on the say no trespassing. They put te
Speaker 1: posts in the ice with signs on them like every
Speaker 1: what would you say, thirty yards forty yards to have
Speaker 1: their own private fishing spot. So everybody's lined up on
Speaker 1: the edge thinking that's where it's going to be good.
Speaker 1: You know, to catch him right on the edge of
Speaker 1: that private we'll see him lined up her head on
Speaker 1: that edge. Always. Oh yeah, like man, if I had
Speaker 1: permission on that should be three bigger. It's so weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know what, but I want to put my
Speaker 1: spin on it. I want my spin on it about
Speaker 1: like what's what I think is right and wrong? Okay,
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna do it till later. I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to explore this more because
Speaker 1: it's two. It's such an amazing thing though, because man, like,
Speaker 1: what's the timeline, right? I mean, if it's like you
Speaker 1: got sucked in by some shady real estate agent who
Speaker 1: knew the place was going to be underwater in three months,
Speaker 1: but it was like I just saw that you were
Speaker 1: kind of a rube and was like, hey, I'll give
Speaker 1: the lakefront property, give you a heck of a deal.
Speaker 1: I gotta move town. Mom sick in the next county. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, your properties underwater. You'd
Speaker 1: probably be like, man, I got taken advantage of this
Speaker 1: is crazy. But on the out of here, it's going
Speaker 1: to be in the basement to three hundred years or
Speaker 1: a hundred years or eighty five years or Grandpa had
Speaker 1: no idea the water was that ever going to get
Speaker 1: that high? You know, then you got a little bit
Speaker 1: more of an attachment to the property, right like for
Speaker 1: a lot, you know, the nine ines was an act
Speaker 1: of God. But now the flooding this year has been
Speaker 1: just as bad, if not worse than anything that happened
Speaker 1: in the nineties. My question is, is this just a
Speaker 1: precipitation thing that's above average? Was it? What else is
Speaker 1: going on besides just rainfall? Is it just like more
Speaker 1: rain equals more lakes? Where is there? I mean, we're
Speaker 1: so much above We're so much above what this area
Speaker 1: is supposed to get traditionally on preset and then it's
Speaker 1: just been a year after year it's just been and
Speaker 1: above average, above average. But you know, there's plenty of
Speaker 1: argument and talk about change in land and farming practices
Speaker 1: and all that, but I'm not really super interested in
Speaker 1: that being a part of it, because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, we're we've got way more water than traditionally,
Speaker 1: at least in the you know, hundred and fifty years
Speaker 1: of people settled here and records, we've got more water
Speaker 1: than we would have had that hundred fifty years, sir.
Speaker 1: So how many lakes have how many lakes have we
Speaker 1: lost access to because the lake grew up onto what
Speaker 1: was regarded as private property before. During the initial fight
Speaker 1: on this whole meandered versus non meandred waters the Meandered
Speaker 1: waters are safe. They haven't been closed down or anything. Um, well,
Speaker 1: unless you can't get onto them. Well there's the states
Speaker 1: pretty much been able to gain access. Okay, so they've
Speaker 1: gone into made deals, right, and a lot of them
Speaker 1: they have public land that butts up to it. You
Speaker 1: know a lot of those Meandered lakes they owned game
Speaker 1: production areas or whatever that they then now go put
Speaker 1: a boat ramping on what used to be duck hunting
Speaker 1: ground or hunting ground. Um. The non Meandered lakes is
Speaker 1: where the real issue was. Let me let's paint a
Speaker 1: scenario where people understand where this comes up. Okay, now
Speaker 1: let me throw one out there. Uh. Here, you have
Speaker 1: a lake that you're never two people historically didn't have
Speaker 1: access to. Okay, so we'll have it's a nonmandered lake yep. Okay,
Speaker 1: so it's never been regarded as a public waterway. And
Speaker 1: it's small. Now it's huge, and there used to be
Speaker 1: no point of access because someone owned all the land.
Speaker 1: But now the lake grows so much that it grows
Speaker 1: up and covers up a county road. So now you
Speaker 1: can't drive your car, correct because it's underwater. You could
Speaker 1: drive your car to where it hits the water and
Speaker 1: be like, now I will continue on my way in
Speaker 1: my boat, right And and so you're like, I now
Speaker 1: have public access to the water because I'm legally entering
Speaker 1: the water, and once I'm on the water, legally I
Speaker 1: can just take my canoe and go where I want
Speaker 1: to go. But these cases they're saying, no, you can't.
Speaker 1: Even though you got in where a public roadway is,
Speaker 1: you can't zoom around the lake at all and fish yep.
Speaker 1: And that's another part of this. Yeah, that's that was
Speaker 1: the most contentious part of it that started all this
Speaker 1: was you have water that goes up to a public
Speaker 1: easement that the public pays for. But because a couple
Speaker 1: of holser Is back in said yeah, that's a lake, right,
Speaker 1: because because they didn't think it was a lake all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now you're not supposed to have access
Speaker 1: to that it was and full of walleeah. Never mind
Speaker 1: that the state has been paying to put fish in it.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like I have your cake and eat
Speaker 1: it too. This type of scenario did just kind of
Speaker 1: down on me that Dan here maybe with three toes
Speaker 1: playing a bit of a game. Oh you're playing a
Speaker 1: game with us Dan Louisiana fun time, right he uh,
Speaker 1: he's from place where he's seen plenty of houses on stilt.
Speaker 1: Comes up here in a steadily rising tide. Mary's a
Speaker 1: local gal, maybe a Knox, A couple of toes off
Speaker 1: with an endearing story, you know in the uh the
Speaker 1: land of the rising rising waters, the Louisiana man, maybe
Speaker 1: king right could be Yeah, rising waters yonder. I like
Speaker 1: the white while I taste. Can you import some gator?
Speaker 1: So what what's your guys gripe with all this, Like,
Speaker 1: what's your take on all this? Well, the biggest it's
Speaker 1: something you guys talk a lot about. Yeah, So the
Speaker 1: biggest problem was first, when this fight started, they wanted
Speaker 1: to give no, no due credit to the history of
Speaker 1: public water public trust doctrine said, now it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if the water is public. The whole argument is recreation.
Speaker 1: Is it a beneficial use? Is it a public right?
Speaker 1: And the landowners say, yeah, the public has, you know,
Speaker 1: rights to the water, but they don't have rights to
Speaker 1: recreate on the water. The sportsman say, of course we do.
Speaker 1: Or sportsman, that's what we do. And um and every
Speaker 1: town that I've been in South Dakota. It seems to
Speaker 1: absolutely celebrate sports mom, Yeah, with signs that basically say
Speaker 1: please come in here. Yeah, come in here and buy
Speaker 1: some beer, buy some gas. Yeah. But the biggest problem was,
Speaker 1: or is that you had a breakup of what was
Speaker 1: legal and what was not. So you had certain lakes
Speaker 1: with certain rules and other lakes following a different rule.
Speaker 1: So we have here what's called injunction lakes. They're non
Speaker 1: meandered lakes, so they're not official lakes. They're not official lakes.
Speaker 1: Some of them have public land under them, so don't
Speaker 1: and but they flood up over a public right away.
Speaker 1: But because the landowners of those lakes, you know, fought
Speaker 1: in court for those lakes to be shut down to fishing,
Speaker 1: they are now completely private lakes, like absolute, even with
Speaker 1: public landing. So why do the guys what's uh, what
Speaker 1: what's motivating the landowners? Do you think of fishing privileges
Speaker 1: or just like general like not one. Yeah, there's all
Speaker 1: sorts of stuff. Um, but the injunction lakes specifically isn't
Speaker 1: like what I have a problem with. It's that you
Speaker 1: have a non meandered lake in this county or over
Speaker 1: here ten miles away five miles away, having to abide
Speaker 1: by a completely different set of rules than that injunction lakes.
Speaker 1: So here's a good example. You have non meandered lakes.
Speaker 1: They should all fall under the same rules and guidelines,
Speaker 1: but you have three different sets of rules they have
Speaker 1: to follow. You have these injunction lakes that are not
Speaker 1: accessible at all, completely closed public fishing. Then you have
Speaker 1: the twenty seven exemption lakes that the state said have
Speaker 1: a proven and recorded history of lots of ortsmen use that.
Speaker 1: For a landowner to close their land off in those lakes,
Speaker 1: they have to file pretty much appeal I guess to
Speaker 1: the state saying why their land should be closed um
Speaker 1: otherwise if and the state so the that's like a
Speaker 1: game commission or whatever that decides whether their application or
Speaker 1: there you know, argument is valid. So they can apply
Speaker 1: on those twenty seven lakes. Let's say Dry Lake number two.
Speaker 1: That's a good example of one of the lakes, Dry
Speaker 1: Lake number two. Those landowners would have to go to
Speaker 1: the state and say, hey, I think I can close
Speaker 1: my land off on this lake. The state says yea
Speaker 1: or nay. So far they have not said yes to
Speaker 1: any of it. On those twenty seven lakes. But then
Speaker 1: the rest of these nonmandered lakes, all you know, two
Speaker 1: hundreds some of them all can be is that land
Speaker 1: owner will but only their land and they have to
Speaker 1: follow a specific set of signage and buoying of the lakes.
Speaker 1: Am I correct in saying that the injunction lakes were
Speaker 1: ones with public access provided by the state um as
Speaker 1: in boat rams, well public easements, not necessarily rams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But so you have these lakes that are all supposed
Speaker 1: to be under the same classification, that all are following
Speaker 1: different set of rules, and there's not really a clear
Speaker 1: precedent on the existing law because this existing law has
Speaker 1: different rules for these lakes, different rules for these, and
Speaker 1: different rules for these, and none of it really makes sense.
Speaker 1: Are there any unexpected players in this? Meaning? Is everyone
Speaker 1: in this their viewpoint on it makes sense when you
Speaker 1: look at what their perspective is, meaning, Like we offer
Speaker 1: times as humans. This is the point I was gonna
Speaker 1: make about this, or like sort of the take home
Speaker 1: for me on it. If you look at what we
Speaker 1: do as humans, we'll have something happened that's not good
Speaker 1: for us, are good for us, right, and we'll take
Speaker 1: it and take the perspective that's advantageous to us and
Speaker 1: sell it as what's right yeah, when really all it
Speaker 1: is is like what's right for me? Meaning how could
Speaker 1: it be Let's take some examples of stuff everybody knows about.
Speaker 1: How could it be? Like Bill Clinton lies about a
Speaker 1: relationship you had with Monica Lewinsky. How could it be
Speaker 1: that the people that don't think that's bad belong to
Speaker 1: his political party, but the people who think it's bad
Speaker 1: belong to another political party. Or you'd have someone and
Speaker 1: be like they're getting some trouble with the Ukraine, and
Speaker 1: people who don't belong to his political party, I think
Speaker 1: that's bad, but people who do belong his little party,
Speaker 1: I think it's not bad. Meaning they're all acting like
Speaker 1: they think it's good or bad, but that's not what
Speaker 1: they're talking about there, talking about what's good for me,
Speaker 1: And then I'll tell people about it as though I
Speaker 1: care about the truth. So my perspective on I would
Speaker 1: just say, like if I lived here and I was
Speaker 1: in this fight, I would say, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to confuse it and act like, uh that I'm
Speaker 1: a moral like I'm doing what's morally correct. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you that I generally like people to have places
Speaker 1: to fish, So I'm gonna take the side of this
Speaker 1: that opens up the most fishing for everybody, because that's
Speaker 1: just my groove. And people would be like, I'm the
Speaker 1: kind of guy who likes to have a bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff for myself and I don't want other people to
Speaker 1: be able to do stuff. So I'm gonna act like
Speaker 1: I think it morally bad for you to come on
Speaker 1: my lake. Like is anyone surprising? Is there anybody who's like, um,
Speaker 1: I own all this lake, but by god, I want
Speaker 1: everybody to come on it. Um or people being like, man,
Speaker 1: I love to fish, but it just wouldn't be right
Speaker 1: for me to fish that lake. Maybe a couple of individuals,
Speaker 1: but you haven't met him, you know. I want to know, like,
Speaker 1: is there did you get what I'm saying? Is there
Speaker 1: like a multigenerational ranch family out there? And it's like
Speaker 1: Grandpa was like, yeah, we grew such and such, ran
Speaker 1: all these fat cattle on this ground, but one day
Speaker 1: it's gonna flood. I told my son. And then when
Speaker 1: my son got it, he's like, yeah, we ran some
Speaker 1: fat cattle. But then the floodwater started to rise just
Speaker 1: like Grandpa said it would. And I told my son, hey,
Speaker 1: this is what's happening. But out in the field, and
Speaker 1: got blues toes off, you know, the old toad pasture.
Speaker 1: But one day that pasture is going to be dry again.
Speaker 1: And now we're gonna be another hundred years down the
Speaker 1: road and there's gonna be more people in South Dakote
Speaker 1: in that land. They're gonna be worth more. Whatever you do,
Speaker 1: hang on to it. I don't care how long. I
Speaker 1: don't care how many wall I are living on it.
Speaker 1: Don't let no beercrats take the land. Yeah, the like
Speaker 1: who's square? Forget all that? Who's squaring off in this sportsman? Yeah,
Speaker 1: are squaring off against landowners? Are people representing landowners? So
Speaker 1: sportsman squaring off against private property interest groups? Yep, exactly
Speaker 1: who's generally winning? Oh, I think without a doubt private
Speaker 1: property now so so sportsmen are getting locked out. Now
Speaker 1: see the private property interest groups or donors or whoever
Speaker 1: would argue against that. Because there hasn't been a whole
Speaker 1: lot of water shut down. I think we're at like
Speaker 1: five thousand acres or something, which it's a lot, but um,
Speaker 1: you know, percentage wise it's not it's not a lot. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not worried about what's happening right now.
Speaker 1: I'm worried about, you know, the long term eventually, like
Speaker 1: what happens when when the non meandered waters running into
Speaker 1: the meandered waters. Yeah, that we've ran into that issue.
Speaker 1: So you have any public lake that is public by
Speaker 1: definition from the state constitution, even through this relatively new amendment,
Speaker 1: and now it joins up across it, so that non
Speaker 1: meandered water then becomes part of the meandered lake. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that becomes fair game. So there's been some lakes
Speaker 1: ago way bigger to this year that we're split nonmandered
Speaker 1: and meandered at the start of the year and are
Speaker 1: now meandered. They coupled. They coupled, So that's a net
Speaker 1: gain if you're on the pro sportsman side. Right. Here's
Speaker 1: a good way to think about it. It's a great point,
Speaker 1: Cal read he brought it up. Let's think about like this,
Speaker 1: do sportsman, hunters and anglers in this neck of the
Speaker 1: woods here has their total acreage you might not know
Speaker 1: the answer to this. Has their acreage that's accessible to
Speaker 1: them increased or decreased due to the flooding. Total acreage.
Speaker 1: He edited it all up. I would still say before
Speaker 1: or after the new law. Right now, with the flooding,
Speaker 1: it's increased. Yeah this year, this year before and after
Speaker 1: the law, it's still in that decrease. God, I got you.
Speaker 1: So this new round of flooding helped set things straight
Speaker 1: a little bit, but it helped a little bit, but
Speaker 1: it didn't completely offset what changed with the new law.
Speaker 1: But it's so interesting too, because what if you don't
Speaker 1: consider yourself a u fishy kind of sportsman, what if
Speaker 1: you're more of an upland game to have a sportsman,
Speaker 1: You're just screwed here. Yeah, everything's under water. Yeah, pheasants
Speaker 1: are all swimming around all the spots you would pheasant
Speaker 1: hunter slesing full of ducks. They got booy's tied to them.
Speaker 1: Now what I worry peasant does on my land? What
Speaker 1: I worry about in the long run, It's just that
Speaker 1: there's no real precedent set because you have like I
Speaker 1: just can't imagine, you know, on let's say the US
Speaker 1: Supreme Court. I can't imagine where these three types of
Speaker 1: you know, these three different lakes that are all non
Speaker 1: meandered being treated different. I can't imagine how that would
Speaker 1: hold up as any precedent that, oh, this one gets
Speaker 1: special treatment because they fought it in court in you know,
Speaker 1: or something, but this one didn't fight it in court,
Speaker 1: so it gets treated differently. But this third one had
Speaker 1: more sportsman using it than option to, so it gets,
Speaker 1: you know, more preferential treatment than option two. I just
Speaker 1: don't understand how that would ever fill up in the
Speaker 1: long run as any precedent. So I'm not worried, you know,
Speaker 1: in the short run about our access. We've still honestly,
Speaker 1: the law has done its job for both sides, and
Speaker 1: it's hard for me, you know, it's hard to me
Speaker 1: sometimes that means that everybody's piste off. It's it's allowed.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of landowners the option of close
Speaker 1: off land if they choose to. But for the sportsman,
Speaker 1: you know, a plus is a lot of landowners haven't
Speaker 1: wanted to and haven't made a fuss and so but
Speaker 1: in the long run, you're not comfortable with the way
Speaker 1: things are left up in the air. Things are left
Speaker 1: up in the air. So my brother has a sign
Speaker 1: on his property it says trespassers welcome. I like that man,
Speaker 1: you don't see me signs and he had to have
Speaker 1: a custom made he couldn't find one. Is the state?
Speaker 1: Is the state buying up land that that that private
Speaker 1: landowners can't um. They're like not allowed to um. I
Speaker 1: don't know there's like a known net uh state property,
Speaker 1: but they're lost or something like that. They're at least
Speaker 1: so like one lake they're leasing the access to for
Speaker 1: eight thousand dollars a year and you can only fish
Speaker 1: it for it's like six months or what is it,
Speaker 1: five six, seven months, it's it's pretty much basically winter
Speaker 1: you can't fish it right fall in winter you can't
Speaker 1: fish it. Um eight thousand a year and then the
Speaker 1: landowner sets the fish limits and what they want to
Speaker 1: be done with the fish biology. I was getting to
Speaker 1: a spot where but I mean, no, that's that's European system, man.
Speaker 1: That is not how we do things in the United
Speaker 1: States of America. Ain't American, No, no, man, I mean
Speaker 1: I think it's it is a raw deal. If you
Speaker 1: have water that the state puts fishing into and then
Speaker 1: you make up the bag limits. Yeah, it's goofy, but
Speaker 1: it's like a new lake and the thing is like
Speaker 1: if your initials s R, there is no limit. It's
Speaker 1: different from every lake is like not every lake. Every
Speaker 1: lake that the state leases is on a case by
Speaker 1: case basis because like you can imagine a golf course
Speaker 1: and somebody just makes a lake in the middle of
Speaker 1: their private property and they can just do whatever they
Speaker 1: want with it. Nobody would freak out about that. It's
Speaker 1: not really true, man, because it depends Like if you
Speaker 1: have a private lake, you're not exempt from fishery laws.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You don't like you could
Speaker 1: own all around a lake, like you just talk about me, Well,
Speaker 1: you can't shad in there goldfish. No, No, there's a lot.
Speaker 1: There's a lot, there's fermiting, there's permitting processes for all this. Right,
Speaker 1: even if you just have like a little it's different.
Speaker 1: You don't set but you don't Like if you own
Speaker 1: a farm, Okay, yeah, you know you own a big farm.
Speaker 1: You don't say you don't set the deer season and
Speaker 1: set the bag a limit for deer on your farm. Right,
Speaker 1: the state does because the state's wildlife. You're just hosting it, right,
Speaker 1: But like if you put a bunch of goldfish in
Speaker 1: your pond in the middle of your little private like
Speaker 1: can be illegal in your yard. You have to well
Speaker 1: the state of South Dakota, for instance, And all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, your little private pond grows exponentially and connects
Speaker 1: to ten other ponds, and then you're goldfish. For some reason,
Speaker 1: didn't read the property boundaries on the plat map and
Speaker 1: connected themselves. Yeah, you got it all full of mermaids
Speaker 1: lake with goldfish m Yeah, which but I mean, and
Speaker 1: the state wasn't then for a long time, didn't care
Speaker 1: about invasive right, They just stocked all sources of stuff.
Speaker 1: Do you know about our Do you know about our
Speaker 1: controversial T shirt coming out? No? You know we had
Speaker 1: the T shirt of a gnome. We had the nome
Speaker 1: packing out. A unicorn T shirt was aware very popular shirt.
Speaker 1: It's a gnome. We got more coming out, sold him,
Speaker 1: sold out him. Oh, we sold him out and sold
Speaker 1: him out and sold him out again, and then they
Speaker 1: went off. Now they're coming back for the holidays. It's
Speaker 1: a gnome. What is bow And he's got a decapitated unicorn.
Speaker 1: He's got a unicorn head like a unicorn cape strapped
Speaker 1: to his backpack. Well, we got one coming out now
Speaker 1: it's the same Gnome. He's a recurring character, and he's
Speaker 1: on his boat's crazy little nome boat, and he's tied
Speaker 1: in with his crazy little Noome rod, like a level
Speaker 1: wine nome rod. And what he's hooked into. There's a
Speaker 1: mermaid fighting a mermaid circle hook. I don't know. You
Speaker 1: can't see the hook. You see her, but you can't
Speaker 1: see the hook. She's lip hooked, but you can't see
Speaker 1: your lips. It's a quarter of the mouth, or you
Speaker 1: can't see your face. But the lot, the direction of
Speaker 1: the line suggests that she's lip hooked. She's here one
Speaker 1: over for the day. Though people have found that some people,
Speaker 1: people who have got a sneak peek at this and
Speaker 1: have seen this or seen it on social media, it's
Speaker 1: generated some controversy, like people are suggested. Some people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're saying, um, it's okay to eat mermaids mermaids or
Speaker 1: some people feel that it has a sexual connotation, which
Speaker 1: makes me wonder what they do with fish they catch.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, it's a controversial t shirt. Even within
Speaker 1: our company. It's been some people who have tried to
Speaker 1: tried to censor shirt. So that'll probably make it more popular. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they're like, it's a mate believe creature catching a
Speaker 1: mate believe creature. But it's somehow so like a human
Speaker 1: can dress up as a mermaid pretty easily versus unicorn.
Speaker 1: Ridge founder felt that it should be someone scaling a
Speaker 1: mermaid's tail. The Norman is scaling its tail, which I
Speaker 1: didn't think it was great, But I okay. I think
Speaker 1: it's a courtship ritual between gnomes and mermaids. That's how
Speaker 1: they courtship. That's how they court. What's the creature created
Speaker 1: from a gnome mermaid? It's not that's uh, it's not viable.
Speaker 1: It's not viable. Off it's like a it's like it's
Speaker 1: like a mule. Yeah. I don't I don't think I
Speaker 1: have a judgment on it. It's a weird shirt. It's
Speaker 1: great shirt's best shirt ever made? Is your favorite best
Speaker 1: shirt ever made? Really think about having it printed to
Speaker 1: get this on baby blue, because I feel like that
Speaker 1: blue offset some of the impending violence. Soft. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you wouldn't put it on a Camo shirt. I mean,
Speaker 1: if the mermaid was catching the too aggressive. I like that.
Speaker 1: I like the mermaid catching the gnome, but the Nome
Speaker 1: does live under water. Well, the mermaids drowning the Gnome.
Speaker 1: Maybe she's like coming up out of one of those
Speaker 1: little backyard waterfall ponds she's in there, comes up grabbing
Speaker 1: the yard. Now it's not a yard, Noome like it's up.
Speaker 1: If that happens, then we can't come out with another
Speaker 1: T shirt. There. The third Gnome shirt is in the works,
Speaker 1: So you got another follow up. The follow up is
Speaker 1: in the involves the Gnome and another mythic creature also
Speaker 1: caught in a violent act. I mean, yeah, how do
Speaker 1: they bring it up? Cause I was talking about you
Speaker 1: having mermaid stocked in your pond and they all get
Speaker 1: away and get into the Yeah. So uh, here's why
Speaker 1: I think this is relevant even to people that are
Speaker 1: in South Dakota. One. You just never know driving around here.
Speaker 1: Cal has remarked three or four times in our in
Speaker 1: our last two great days of dark hunting in one
Speaker 1: day at Walleye Fishing, um Man, you think you're gonna
Speaker 1: tell little my nature how it goes, and you can
Speaker 1: now and then a little bit, but you think you're
Speaker 1: gonna tell my nature what's up? Or you like picture
Speaker 1: that the earth is away, but that's a field. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then also she's like it's not it's late. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: on time scales, surprise, this is so fast that it's
Speaker 1: a time scale that we can actually understand. Like we
Speaker 1: obviously know things used to be oceans or seas, her
Speaker 1: maids swimming around everywhere. Whatever. We'd like hear these things
Speaker 1: that geological history. But this is like so fast that
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, like five years ago there was no
Speaker 1: lake and now it's yeah. I mean you're talking about
Speaker 1: people that are sitting at the bar that remember when
Speaker 1: there was no water exactly, or you're trying to find
Speaker 1: follow your GPS system and you're now a towner with
Speaker 1: a rental vehicle and you're following your GPS system and
Speaker 1: keep d through a lake. Yeah. Uh. There's two lines
Speaker 1: from John mcfee's Pulitzer Prize winning book Animals of the
Speaker 1: Former World, which is like a geological history book. There's
Speaker 1: two lines that I think of hanging around here where
Speaker 1: you're like, man, it changed so much. But one is
Speaker 1: this one line from mcfee's book is that the top
Speaker 1: of Mount Everest the highest thing in the world. In
Speaker 1: our world, the top of Mount Everest is marine limestone. Wow.
Speaker 1: The other thing is this is that if you imagine
Speaker 1: the Earth's history as your arms stretched out, so it's
Speaker 1: a line, a number like a line, can you imagine
Speaker 1: it's history expressed by your arms being stretched out wide?
Speaker 1: He explains that you could remove the entirety of human
Speaker 1: history with one stroke of a nail file, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: there goes that part of the Earth's history off the
Speaker 1: number line. So when you think about all that, they're like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: of course no ship, like, no ship, it's lake now,
Speaker 1: Like of course that mountain that's twenty Yeah, that used
Speaker 1: to be the bottom of the ocean. Yeah, well just
Speaker 1: northeast to here. Lake Agasy, you know, used to cover States.
Speaker 1: Monster Lake. Yeah, you're talking about the big lake. You
Speaker 1: have all the dinosaurs winding around the edge of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So but the rapidity, it's so fast. It's fast enough
Speaker 1: that it makes sense in our we're not very good
Speaker 1: at long term things like all that stuff. We can
Speaker 1: kind of imagine it on some arm length metaphor. But
Speaker 1: it's fast enough that you're like, huh, I used to
Speaker 1: be able to drive down this road. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like when I was on my prime date. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: just a little bit ago. This was a county road,
Speaker 1: and you feel Rick Rick has commented a number of
Speaker 1: times that it's like welcome to the anthropascene. It's it's
Speaker 1: I mean, one, it's a super visual of like an apocalypse.
Speaker 1: Tell people what the anthroposne is, just like the human
Speaker 1: human age where we are sort of affecting the earth
Speaker 1: on a global Yeah, we had the place the scene
Speaker 1: Ice Age, the Holow scene, which we're in now. But
Speaker 1: some people feel the Hollow scene was cut short by
Speaker 1: the anthropasy and meaning man became the driving factor of
Speaker 1: the driving global factor, unlike a geologic geological uh, the
Speaker 1: worthy geological epicopic driver. And in this in this case,
Speaker 1: you know, irrespective of what's causing the increased rainfall, you
Speaker 1: just it feels apocalyptic in some ways. To see Barnes underwater,
Speaker 1: Barns underwater, it feels like a like a road to
Speaker 1: Go Nowhere movie kind of thing. Like there's just I'm
Speaker 1: not getting a horror vibe off horror. Yeah, there's just
Speaker 1: like whole buildings that are just like in a like
Speaker 1: flood horror. Yeah, we saw that. We saw a house
Speaker 1: that like looked fairly new, Yeah, fairly had water like
Speaker 1: the waves were hitting the side of the house. Yeah
Speaker 1: in the frame. Yeah, yeah, we were wanting that dude
Speaker 1: still living in there, not know. And then there's like sandbags,
Speaker 1: he's got his muck boots on. No, but then it's
Speaker 1: watching the pack. It depends who you are. If you're
Speaker 1: if you're a farmer in your field is underwater, it's
Speaker 1: like you can't harvest, it's like a loss on the
Speaker 1: year or whatever. But if you're horror movie, like that
Speaker 1: kind of horror movie, I see lots of horrors. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I feel like I could set like some spooky
Speaker 1: supernatural situation here. Yeah, but outside of the movie deal. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's just like depending on who you are, it's either like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is the greatest thing ever. Like the duck hunting
Speaker 1: aided by all these all this water is like increased habitat.
Speaker 1: The ducks seem super happy, thrilled, thrilled. Yeah. So there's
Speaker 1: like winners and losers in whatever change happens. And and
Speaker 1: as things whatever changed in the environment, there's there's winners
Speaker 1: and losers. These guys, well, I really love is uh
Speaker 1: that you guys have been catching walle um bouncing jigs
Speaker 1: down the road? Oh yeah, truthfully, and walleye off blacktop
Speaker 1: roads in April and May. There is absolutely not a
Speaker 1: chance there's any better spot to catch walleye than a
Speaker 1: road flat out. Every you go down the road, the
Speaker 1: road vanishes under lake your park. You put on your waiters,
Speaker 1: and you keep walking down the road casting. You wait
Speaker 1: till you're just at that point where your elbows would
Speaker 1: start to get wet. Don't go any farther, and then
Speaker 1: start casting the ditches into the ditch. Yeah, cast ditch
Speaker 1: work up along it, white plastics, catch one hook to
Speaker 1: a stringer, hook to your waiters, white plastics, and the
Speaker 1: ditches only one over. Yeah. I wonder if they'll be
Speaker 1: saying that about Miami, like, wow, amazing structure. Yeah, people
Speaker 1: are like people are getting like this coffee shop. But
Speaker 1: now I'm so happy because there's yeah where you get
Speaker 1: that group or a hotel, you know, the stone Crab place. Um.
Speaker 1: So it's really terrible. It's so weird to be here, man.
Speaker 1: And I mean, I keep trying to Here's the problem
Speaker 1: I keep running into as a human being. I keep
Speaker 1: running into. This problem is that I'll look around in
Speaker 1: some part like I look around, I look at all
Speaker 1: the ducks here and everything and all the fish, and
Speaker 1: some part of me is, um, I don't think. I
Speaker 1: don't want to say it's a bad part of me,
Speaker 1: but some part of me is like not horrified, like
Speaker 1: kind of like good nature won this deal or just
Speaker 1: some some sort of like I don't know, like just
Speaker 1: being like blown away by it, right and all the
Speaker 1: all the ducks. If you're looking at an absence of
Speaker 1: wildlife would be different, but you're looking and it's like
Speaker 1: it's like stuff using it. We've seen a huge white tails,
Speaker 1: giant salamanders, but the waterfowl everywhere. I forced myself to
Speaker 1: be like, but there are people who are losing their
Speaker 1: uh not losing their lives, but losing their livelihoods. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, and this is amazing, but remember but it's
Speaker 1: always the first thought I always have. It is like wow,
Speaker 1: then I gotta go. But don't feel too good because
Speaker 1: look what this means for people. But it's been like
Speaker 1: confusing for me because I'm an outsider too. And when
Speaker 1: you're an outsider, you don't um your empathy is a
Speaker 1: little bit tougher because you just don't know the people impacted.
Speaker 1: When you live here and you know the players. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe you get to where you look at it just
Speaker 1: all looks like disaster. But to be an outsider, um,
Speaker 1: to be an outsider here for the purpose of hunting, ducks,
Speaker 1: here for the purpose of fishing. You look and ducks
Speaker 1: and fish like water. You're looking like, man, this is
Speaker 1: like a wildlife paradise. And you go like, but you're
Speaker 1: kind of an asshole for saying that, because this is
Speaker 1: people's livelihoods, tons and tons and thousands and thousands and
Speaker 1: thousands of tons of food gone to waste. How many
Speaker 1: times this morning were we sitting there look out over
Speaker 1: that flooded bean field, and you know, the cloud gets
Speaker 1: up and we all go, wow, look at all those ducks.
Speaker 1: And in that moment you're like, you're so excited about
Speaker 1: that cloud of ducks, but you realize they just came
Speaker 1: out of a hundred acres of flooded crop that's not
Speaker 1: going to be harvestable and costs a lot of money
Speaker 1: to put in. A ton of money I made. I
Speaker 1: made the comment about um, when you look at this
Speaker 1: giant field, fields of corn and fields, and you know
Speaker 1: it might dry out and they get the corn used
Speaker 1: for silage or whatever. But you're looking at all this,
Speaker 1: but a lot of those a good disk into the ground. Um.
Speaker 1: You look at all that and you imagine just like
Speaker 1: the grain trucks and grain cars, and you think about
Speaker 1: the way, like I yell at my kids about not
Speaker 1: finishing the cobb of corn, they'll do the time, they'll
Speaker 1: do like three typewriter rolls off cobb of corn. They'll
Speaker 1: be done. I'll be like, no, no, I take that last.
Speaker 1: Don't waste that food. Shouldn't waste food, you know, annoyed
Speaker 1: at them. They got half a cop of corn and
Speaker 1: an eat quarter of that, and you're piste neither look
Speaker 1: at that corn field and you're like, oh, man, yeah,
Speaker 1: do you imagine scraping out into the trash. It's been
Speaker 1: so interesting being here. Man, all that tofu gone to waste.
Speaker 1: Shooting ducks over wasted tofu uh fed ducks. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: I don't think that they would This soy wouldn't wind
Speaker 1: up there because this is an organic soy means you know,
Speaker 1: does they make a non organic tofu that someone does? Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm sure I would imagine a lot. Yeah. But if
Speaker 1: you talk about eating ducks, you talk about them being organic,
Speaker 1: you got an earth thing common man, especially in this area.
Speaker 1: These are not organic ducks. Like you said, there's probably
Speaker 1: not a non GMO duck in the country. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you killed a duck of the year up in Alaska, right,
Speaker 1: but once that thing hits the once that things a
Speaker 1: few months in lower forty eight, it's probably a little
Speaker 1: chance that he didn't at some point in time wind up,
Speaker 1: at some point in time wind up eating eating GMO,
Speaker 1: GMO products with pesticides and herbicides. And and how many
Speaker 1: ducks do we eat last night? Nice eight more than
Speaker 1: nine or ten of them? And I mean I didn't
Speaker 1: hear anybody complain about a single bite two big duck
Speaker 1: breasts and legs, and man, they were absolutely delicious. Or
Speaker 1: we clean our walleys yet no, no yet, man, Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: we can just ice those things for tonight. Um. I
Speaker 1: think it is a fascinating thought of like how we
Speaker 1: impose order over the landscape. Right. We got this area
Speaker 1: that's been in flux for thousands of years. I mean,
Speaker 1: where we are right now is how it is because
Speaker 1: of you know, this giant glacier that's at over the
Speaker 1: top of this place. Yeah, we used to be under
Speaker 1: a half mile ice so think about that. We're doing
Speaker 1: real good that ship for ducks and uh. And then
Speaker 1: we lay out this incredible grid system of fences, these
Speaker 1: neat tidy rows of crops, all running at right angles,
Speaker 1: all GPS mapped, these roads, county roads, highway as, interstates,
Speaker 1: all arounding, neat tidy squares, rectangles, and then it just
Speaker 1: fills up with water and eliminates that stuff. We're like,
Speaker 1: there will be order, right, and it's like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: there will not be order. Yeah, just wait a bit,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll come back, you know, and it will come back,
Speaker 1: and and and it's just it's fascinating to try to
Speaker 1: wrap your head around that. And then the fact that,
Speaker 1: you know, what we've been talking about is it is
Speaker 1: because of that change that this area, you know, it
Speaker 1: has been so good to us wildlife wise. And you
Speaker 1: gotta think, like, if this water continues to rise just
Speaker 1: a little bit more, nobody can get in those fields.
Speaker 1: All that vegetation lays over, you get a big ice
Speaker 1: cap on it. This winter, that vegetation dies, nukes all
Speaker 1: the oxygen underneath, right, so you just have this giant
Speaker 1: layer of decay. All that food is gone, Like, this
Speaker 1: area is not gonna get a bunch of ducks back
Speaker 1: in it, right, not not like we're seeing right now.
Speaker 1: What Yeah, One thing they were saying is it doesn't
Speaker 1: get picked, it will get disted in. If it dries
Speaker 1: out the spring look at dissed then like if that
Speaker 1: corn doesn't like like you're saying, if it doesn't lay
Speaker 1: over and all that, but if it's if it's standing
Speaker 1: but rotten, it'll all get disked in. And then there's
Speaker 1: a lot of corns sitting there for those ducks. But
Speaker 1: the stay is underwater. What's what's a what's a wet spring?
Speaker 1: Look like? Right? I can't get in the field. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's not just because let's say
Speaker 1: you're just like so pro duct you're like, yeah, screw
Speaker 1: the houses and the ranches, like let it, let it
Speaker 1: just go back to wildlife. It's not gonna be like
Speaker 1: it is right now. No, Like there's no sense of permanence.
Speaker 1: And I guess from up an interesting point as we've
Speaker 1: been driving around discussing this is uh Dan Sean have
Speaker 1: been saying, like wetland, it is the thing that goes dry.
Speaker 1: But we're talking about wetlands. We're talking about things that
Speaker 1: are intermittent by nature. They're temporary, that's what they're that's
Speaker 1: what their whole purposes. They get wet and dry out,
Speaker 1: get wet and dry out, and it makes them rich.
Speaker 1: H makes them not stagnant mud, you know, stagnant silt
Speaker 1: on the bottom gives them that richness. Yeah. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like the same sense of permanence. Right, It's like,
Speaker 1: well it's a wet land. Well, god, now it's dry.
Speaker 1: Is it still a wet land? And the guy who
Speaker 1: put in his fence in his house down here? Sense
Speaker 1: of permanence right is? I mean, it's just a it's
Speaker 1: an amazing thing to try to wrap your head around.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a wetland ten years ago, so it's not
Speaker 1: a wetland. Well, there's water sitting there now with grass
Speaker 1: growing and all sorts of wild You had a wetland
Speaker 1: hiding in plain sight. Yeah, and a bunch of kids
Speaker 1: dumped a bucket wall. I like that. It's not it
Speaker 1: sounds like a bad thing, but I like the indifference
Speaker 1: of nature doesn't care what you really want or how
Speaker 1: it all fits the puzzle, just it just kind of
Speaker 1: does its thing irrespective of of any end goal. Yeah, Kelly.
Speaker 1: Kelly talked with that in Cal's weekend review. When the
Speaker 1: hail storm killed honey ducks. Oh gosh, oh that was
Speaker 1: in Montana. Yeah. Thousands, yeah, ten thousand, I think. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was down like on the tongue big as hail
Speaker 1: balls killed, Yeah, thousands of ducks. But the way it
Speaker 1: was covered in the news, it was like the end
Speaker 1: of other Nature slaughters Mother Nature heartlessly, right, and it's
Speaker 1: like it's just hailed. It's just it's just hail and
Speaker 1: its gravity. There was no motivation. There was Yeah, there
Speaker 1: was no motivation. There's no motivation, and like she was
Speaker 1: trying to reclaim what it originally, you know, like mother
Speaker 1: natures like ducks. It's just like, yeah, I smite the Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no and game Warden's like on the report it
Speaker 1: was like, um, the lake's pretty full. Now. That was
Speaker 1: last week and it was a bit a lot of
Speaker 1: ducks made it through it or whatever. It'll be interesting
Speaker 1: in you know, a year, two years from now to
Speaker 1: see what this area looks like, because two years ago,
Speaker 1: if you told me this area would have two foot
Speaker 1: of water and all the corn and beans and thousands
Speaker 1: and thousands of ducks. This whole area two years ago
Speaker 1: was in a drought and that was crazy too. And
Speaker 1: so man, it's yeah, you're saying there was no water
Speaker 1: within twenty miles and there's no ducks. Yeah, there was
Speaker 1: no ducks. Yeah, that's time of year. You should look
Speaker 1: off in all in the horizon and see dust from combines.
Speaker 1: If you look off on the horizon, you see the
Speaker 1: clouds of stuff. Apocalyptic. It's the duck apocalypse. And a
Speaker 1: year from now you could be right back to dust,
Speaker 1: no standing water, none of that. No, just the nature
Speaker 1: of it. Well, Sean, give us your concluders and tell people,
Speaker 1: tell people about the work you do. Um film, show
Speaker 1: yep I film a bunch of stuff. But dream we
Speaker 1: were creative. Dream we were creative. That is how the
Speaker 1: business got its name. Is that song is right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That was my nickname growing up. So yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: good tape. What tape is that? It was? That a medkit.
Speaker 1: It's a great medical tape. Man, twenty nine and a
Speaker 1: half inch while I cutting up your thumb, No, that's
Speaker 1: my other cut. That's from Prayer of Scripts. That's some
Speaker 1: that's some rassling. The twenty nine inch Walleyes teeth. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: tell about to show you film. Uh dream. We were
Speaker 1: creative is my production business, and we film waterfowl show
Speaker 1: called The Grind, and UH travel all over chasing ducks
Speaker 1: and it's a man, it's been super cool. You got
Speaker 1: to meet a lot of cool people across the country
Speaker 1: and see something we didn't really talk about. But um,
Speaker 1: I love just learning duck behavior, learning the little different
Speaker 1: things they do in different areas. You know you pretty well.
Speaker 1: I've been impressed. You can go to Nebraska and see
Speaker 1: them when it snows a foot they'll just be in
Speaker 1: winter week because that's what they do there. But they
Speaker 1: wouldn't do that in South Dakota, you know. And um,
Speaker 1: I don't know when on my first duck hunt when
Speaker 1: I was nine and just been hooked since to the
Speaker 1: point I'm traveling chasing them for a living. So you
Speaker 1: learned a lot, man, Yeah, it was. It was fun too.
Speaker 1: It's been a lot of fun. It still got some
Speaker 1: more of those fat teal to stack up. That's my
Speaker 1: concluded saying he's got more teal stack up. We uh
Speaker 1: processed a few teal today. Um that looked like it
Speaker 1: was disproportionate in the amount of meat. Two lard. It
Speaker 1: looked like a like a large serving spoonful of red
Speaker 1: meat wrapped in snow cap lard. Yeah, when you breasted
Speaker 1: that teal out with the skin still on fast coming
Speaker 1: so low and so fast, and so I have swung
Speaker 1: on I think four groups of teal and have not
Speaker 1: squeezed the trigger one time time. I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: just a little seven ft behind that one. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: pulled up on a bunch. I thought about pulling up
Speaker 1: on more. I have not touched around off on the
Speaker 1: teal yet. I killed Drake Mallard that came in with
Speaker 1: some teal. That was cool because they all came through
Speaker 1: and blew my hat off the top of my head
Speaker 1: almost so else I realized there's a Mallard like man,
Speaker 1: You're like no, uh yeah, boy, Dan and Sean, thank
Speaker 1: you guys so so much for man helping us out
Speaker 1: the red carpet. Be an excellent host and um, you know,
Speaker 1: teaching us a lot or teach me a lot um,
Speaker 1: you know while I aired um climbing the chart as
Speaker 1: far as respectable fish go, that's for sure. After this evening, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she started out the evening anti Walleye. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: honestly pretty anti Walleye. I was like, the only good
Speaker 1: way to catch these things is trying to free dive
Speaker 1: for him with you're um and uh, these ones tonight
Speaker 1: they actually like hit your your lure, your your jig
Speaker 1: and instead of just licking it and they kind of
Speaker 1: tugged a little bit. That was cool. They were tussling.
Speaker 1: They were tusslers. Yeah, good eating to boot So so
Speaker 1: that was that was cool, man. And it's just yeah,
Speaker 1: and so much fun to be down here and um,
Speaker 1: yeah you guys living a sports with paradise man and
Speaker 1: back in like a duck camp again and looking at
Speaker 1: the little the social scene around here is pretty fun.
Speaker 1: So sports, We're happy to have you guys. It was
Speaker 1: a blast here, man. Ship. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: It's South Dakota around Holy cascrewed by and here. I
Speaker 1: am wanting to move to mont No, no, no, no, dude,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't move. I'd move here man. Yeah. You don't
Speaker 1: have enough toes for those mountains, damn. Yeah. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: need to live in the flat land with all the
Speaker 1: missing toes. So what do you got, Danny? You got
Speaker 1: your final thoughts? You wanted to wedge in there. I
Speaker 1: guess I I want to end on a local proverb
Speaker 1: whisky is for drinking and waters for fighting. That that's
Speaker 1: not local. It's used a lot locally. I bet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta salt the cow if you want to catch
Speaker 1: the calf local either right, too thick to drink, too
Speaker 1: thin to plow right. I don't know if I have
Speaker 1: a good concluder. If you want to catch the calf,
Speaker 1: I have a good one. Lauren told me that, but
Speaker 1: I cannot say it on this program. Please don't then
Speaker 1: the cow if you want to catch the calf rick Uh.
Speaker 1: Season eight out? Oh yeah, it's out on Netflix. Yeah
Speaker 1: it won't, it won't. This won't come out. It'll people
Speaker 1: still go watch and leave it on. So it seems
Speaker 1: that they're watching it a bunch of times in a row. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard to film these shows. Maybe unsubscribed from Netflix.
Speaker 1: Wa wait, you subscribe and then just why then leave
Speaker 1: the show on. It'll look like you got sick of
Speaker 1: it and quit and then this show came out and
Speaker 1: you went back and got it again. I think that's
Speaker 1: probably how a lot of the viewers feel. They like
Speaker 1: it that much. Yep, that's a great idea. Cal Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then make sure to leave it on. So it
Speaker 1: just seems like you can't get enough two weeks straight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that you got nothing. Thirty nine gross three nine year
Speaker 1: old man almost yeah, yeah, thirty nine year old man.
Speaker 1: Oh my, My real concluder is you walk extremely fast
Speaker 1: and uh in deep water. Yeah, it's a different kind
Speaker 1: of walk. I can't walk like you know me walk.
Speaker 1: I wasn't walking like I normally walk. But I just
Speaker 1: you know what it is. You drive your knees forward. No, well,
Speaker 1: once you told me that it's because you were a
Speaker 1: musk rat. You know, we come full circle to the
Speaker 1: must tramping. Yeah, muskrat trap. So just I mean I
Speaker 1: was driving my knees for They just don't drive forward
Speaker 1: as fast as you were. Did you watch me a
Speaker 1: bird dog that crippled Mallard today out in the grass strip?
Speaker 1: I watched you out there. That's a good retrieve. Like
Speaker 1: he was dancing. I gotta practice that because look like
Speaker 1: he was dancing out there in the water, keeping up,
Speaker 1: keeping up on her somehow. Duck hunting, You made duck
Speaker 1: hunting up active. Yeah, called Steve for like two hours
Speaker 1: walking through the Yeah, I didn't realize you duck hadn't
Speaker 1: by walking around. But you know we're doing a little
Speaker 1: we're doing a little looting. Yeah, of course, of course
Speaker 1: we were how to get the ducks up f uh
Speaker 1: no concluder which just awesome here, Yeah, just sportsman's paradise.
Speaker 1: Your right eyes bloodshot seth. It's almost midnight. I want
Speaker 1: to go to bed. That's my clu. I can't control
Speaker 1: my eyes. Almost midnight. Alright, let's go ice our walleyes. Guys,
Speaker 1: thanks so much, man, thanks, We're gonna come back hunt turkeys.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back again and hunt something else and
Speaker 1: do some ice fishing. Oh, come back on ice fish.
Speaker 1: Then I'll come hunt something else. Only hunt white tails.
Speaker 1: Sounds like we've got a couple. There's no white tails
Speaker 1: up here, dude. We saw just the ones that stand
Speaker 1: out lifetime driving, like crossing the road, buck of a lifetime?
Speaker 1: You mean, big body not? And I turned to Sean
Speaker 1: and I said, now that would be regarded as a
Speaker 1: shooter hereabouts, right, And he goes, oh, yeah, I was
Speaker 1: a kid. That's fun to make sure the same two
Speaker 1: hundred pounder all right, thanks guys,