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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Are you ready, It's about to hit

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Speaker 1: the fan. Welcome to Unsanctioned Thursdays. Un wrestling with Fready?

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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? And welcome to Unsanctioned Thursdays.

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Speaker 2: You like that voice.

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Speaker 1: We spend a lot of money on that voice, so

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Speaker 1: I hope you appreciate the sacrifices that I make. No

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Speaker 1: Jeff died today, You're stuck with me. We are in

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Speaker 1: October and Halloween is coming. It's Halloween e time. It's

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Speaker 1: time for the Boogeyman. It's time for Cain, the Devil's

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Speaker 1: favorite demon. It's time for the Undertaker. It's time for

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Speaker 1: who else? Is it time for who else? Who else?

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Speaker 1: It's time for Lunovshan. What It's time for Lunavashan. Y'alls

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Speaker 1: get ready? Halloween is coming. I hope you guys are excited.

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Speaker 1: I know my kids are. My son is dressing up

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Speaker 1: as a giant inflatable banana, and I'm pretty sure he's

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Speaker 1: doing it so that it's the closest thing to a

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Speaker 1: penis joke that he can make at school without getting

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Speaker 1: in trouble. Every joke he has is about these nuts.

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Speaker 1: These nuts here, these nuts there. These nuts are everywhere.

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Speaker 1: It's making his mother slowly insane. But he's you know,

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Speaker 1: he's an eleven year old boy and that's what his

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Speaker 1: friends joke about. Our dicks and balls and parts. Man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why women ever get attracted to us ever,

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Speaker 1: because I'm still laughing at it right now. But party on,

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Speaker 1: way to go, Mint, Let's go anyway. We kind of

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Speaker 1: talk about anything on these shows. It's not always it's

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Speaker 1: not always wrestling. So today I thought we would talk

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Speaker 1: about what I did at WWE and how it related

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Speaker 1: on that, and then maybe you can read into that

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Speaker 1: what you will and psychoanalyze me. I was an acting

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Speaker 1: coach and a writer and a producer at WWE for

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Speaker 1: a couple of years because I was an actor and

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Speaker 1: a writer before that, and now back to writing and acting.

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Speaker 1: I ran an acting class there, and it made me

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Speaker 1: think of the reason to do this side quest, which

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Speaker 1: is all unsanctioned Thursdays are most of the time, and

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Speaker 1: talk about my experience in acting class and sort of

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Speaker 1: the art of the audition and all that stuff, because

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Speaker 1: that's what I tried to teach these wrestlers, I would

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Speaker 1: give them monologues from movies that they liked. I would say, Hey,

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Speaker 1: tell me your favorite movie, and then I would find

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Speaker 1: that whatever speech was the coolest one, right Like dolfh

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Speaker 1: Ziggler is a great example. On his Instagram years ago,

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Speaker 1: he posted this black and white video of him doing

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Speaker 1: this rewritten version of Alec Baldwin's speech from Malice, And

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Speaker 1: if you're familiar with that's speech, it's the one where

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Speaker 1: he says, do you.

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Speaker 1: And in that in that raspy Baldwinian voice of his,

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Speaker 1: and he did the same thing but with wrestling and

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Speaker 1: talked about his amateur and professional accomplishments and then finished

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Speaker 1: with the same with the same line. And that was

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Speaker 1: the speech that I gave him when I back in

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Speaker 1: the day when I worked there, and some people would

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Speaker 1: Girls the ROSI O'Donnell's speech and she was like, man,

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Speaker 1: I feel really weird doing this because it's like talking

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Speaker 1: shit about all of us. I was like, that's why

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Speaker 1: and make yourself uncomfortable. Make this do it so much

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Speaker 1: all your other promos. And she totally bought into the

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Speaker 1: The cool thing about the acting class I went to

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Speaker 1: and if there's any actors listening, and they're in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: His name is Andrew mcgerian and he still worked locally

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Speaker 1: They were partners at the time. They're not now.

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Speaker 2: This was Jesus uh thirty years ago.

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Speaker 1: Wow, but they still are both kicking it and they

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Speaker 1: have great resumes and stellar reputations. They worked with everyone,

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Speaker 1: for me to Kirsten Dunns, to my wife, to every

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Speaker 1: I remember I was only eighteen years old and so nervous,

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Speaker 2: The scene opens with you ballin' and.

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Speaker 1: I was scared that I wouldn't be able to do it,

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Speaker 1: It was a Vietnam vet going through some serious shit.

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Speaker 1: And that was after I had already been trying to

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Speaker 2: They were just dry as a bone, and I stood up.

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Speaker 1: I was pissed off because I was embarrassed, and I

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Speaker 1: And he goes that right there, going there, right now.

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Speaker 1: He was real cool with it because it wasn't just

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Speaker 1: He had a strategy and a philosophy behind it. Everybody

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Speaker 1: philosophy was no, no, no, screw that. That's a sucker's play,

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Speaker 1: You go in there and you're off book, but you

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Speaker 1: Everybody was like, this is next level because we had

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Speaker 1: that was the single best advice and strategy that anybody

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Speaker 1: go to acting class. That's that's important. Have people challenge

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Speaker 1: That's what that That's what acting class was for me.

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Speaker 1: I was up against Philip Seymour Hoffmann because we're always

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Speaker 1: a little movie called Montana with Kira Sedgwick and I

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Speaker 1: and I said, no, please, just let me read. Let

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Speaker 1: best one I'd ever done. Like I knew I booked

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Speaker 1: what happened? Who got it? He said, Philip Seymour Hoffman.

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