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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And that's the motivation I needed, the motivation
Speaker 1: I needed, And there's motivation. This weekend, boys, the boys
Speaker 1: took ourselves on a four hour, twenty minute flight at
Speaker 1: what six am, A six to ten departure flight to
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Nevada, Dude, where dreams are either made or broken. Now,
Speaker 1: it almost got bad quick in a hurry. The day
Speaker 1: before we do a podcast. We're not gonna say who,
Speaker 1: because that's gonna come out in about two weeks. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be amazing. You guys are all gonna enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll do big numbies. Yeah, because you guys
Speaker 1: are putting up big numbies for us. But I asked
Speaker 1: Will as he's leaving the bus, I say, hey, would
Speaker 1: fly to you one because what was thinking about taking
Speaker 1: the one o'clock flight or that six am flight with
Speaker 1: me and the boys as we ventured off in Vegas
Speaker 1: with hopes and dreams. He goes, oh, man, I'm probably
Speaker 1: gonna take that afternoon flight. So I pull out my
Speaker 1: figurative journal and my figurative pen. I take a no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna remember that buss. I'm gonna remember that. Nothing
Speaker 1: else was said. I'm packing that night. I'm having a
Speaker 1: great time. I look, I'm put all my stuff together,
Speaker 1: getting a couple of fire fits together, and I can't
Speaker 1: even sleep because it's the old Line trip and I
Speaker 1: can't wait. Not only as an old line trip, but
Speaker 1: we went to Vegas to also shoot a couple of
Speaker 1: pods that are going to be equally as fire as
Speaker 1: that two hundred pieces. Those are gonna be amazing. It
Speaker 1: is five thirty two. I'm sitting him at my day
Speaker 1: that we bored in eighteen minutes, I get a phone
Speaker 1: call from Will Compton. I think this man doing up
Speaker 1: this early? Huh he's fighting Jocko again, Like, what's going
Speaker 1: on with my boy?
Speaker 3: Got his little imagination notebook and pen and stuff. I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I got him right where I want it? Right?
Speaker 1: Where are you right where you wanted me?
Speaker 3: And I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I a's the phone and Buddy sounds out of breath
Speaker 1: like he's been running. He's just in the truck driving.
Speaker 1: Will you go how fast you're going?
Speaker 3: Speed limit?
Speaker 1: The speed limit plus five? Right, Yeah, you know the
Speaker 1: speed limit. So why don't you go ahead and break
Speaker 1: down what happened that evening that morning?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so basically I set my alarm for four for
Speaker 2: whatever reason. The boy doesn't hear it, and I guess,
Speaker 2: and you know, when you're what's surprising to me is
Speaker 2: the iPhone. It's going off right, But I'm never like
Speaker 2: you got to touch the stop down at the bottom
Speaker 2: of the screen. All you got to do is grab
Speaker 2: and like touch one of the side buttons and it
Speaker 2: it snoozees the alarm. I don't know how I turned
Speaker 2: it off, but I turned it off, and next thing
Speaker 2: I know, GP's call him a five thirty in the
Speaker 2: morning because we're supposed to meet at the bus at five.
Speaker 2: Now that is it's all. It's obviously all on me.
Speaker 2: But I was curious, like, why why would they get
Speaker 2: on you?
Speaker 4: In a little bit on Apple correct, yeah, in a
Speaker 4: little bit on JP and Mitch, I feel like, because
Speaker 4: you think it because if you if we're supposed to
Speaker 4: meet at five and it's five oh five, Like I'm thinking, okay,
Speaker 4: you got to call at some point, but you but
Speaker 4: you wait, you ate thirty minutes to give the boy
Speaker 4: a phone call.
Speaker 3: Now into the absolute panic, jpek.
Speaker 1: Ald maybe maybe Mitch.
Speaker 3: Maybe if you guys, you.
Speaker 2: Guys thought hypotheticals on he could be doing this, he
Speaker 2: could be doing that. Either way. Thirty minutes went by
Speaker 2: the panic. For whatever reason, JP's called me, and I
Speaker 2: hear the vibration of the phone call, wake up to that,
Speaker 2: trying to cut it, like, hey, what's up?
Speaker 3: JP?
Speaker 2: And he was like, Hey, do you want to just
Speaker 2: meet at the airport? Pull it back see five thirty
Speaker 2: on my phone? Oh, absolute panic flings off at six twenty.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, Charles starts earing, repainting, like I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we get on the phone, Charles start services, So what's
Speaker 2: going on? Like flight leaves in fifty minutes. I'm not
Speaker 2: making it's over, Like I'm not making it, and kind
Speaker 2: of just stood there and like kind of put my
Speaker 2: head down, like I ain't making this.
Speaker 3: And she's like, you can make it. You can make it.
Speaker 3: What time is it? She's like, what do you need
Speaker 3: me to help you to do?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you know, I'm scatterbrain, I'm fucking shit
Speaker 2: hit the fan, and I'm not responding the right way. Fortunately,
Speaker 2: everything was basically packed. I just had to throw a
Speaker 2: couple of things on and uh hit the road. I
Speaker 2: hit the road and you know, as you guys know,
Speaker 2: I'm going to speed limit. But I call Taylor and uh,
Speaker 2: Taylor's me out, what are you doing up this early?
Speaker 2: That's like the first thing he says, kind of with
Speaker 2: the smile, kind of like okay, what's that's fine? You
Speaker 2: feel yeah, oh, what's going on?
Speaker 3: I said?
Speaker 2: I got good news and bad news, and he's like,
Speaker 2: tell me the bad news. I was like, bad news
Speaker 2: is I just woke up. The good news is I'm
Speaker 2: supposed to be on that flight at six twenty.
Speaker 1: Which fires me up. Dude. Yeah, I'm like, oh fuck.
Speaker 1: But then it sets in like I look at my phone,
Speaker 1: I pull I'll do the pull back, and I look
Speaker 1: at him like, damn, yeah, he ain't gonna make it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm wanting to walk up. I'm want to
Speaker 3: roll up and be the hero. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna it was reaction point the poison one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I'm thinking there's no fucking way, dude end up
Speaker 2: pulling the ship.
Speaker 3: Off, naked off while the A while the A list is.
Speaker 2: Going still make it. It's like the back half of
Speaker 2: the A list, and then see the boys. We get
Speaker 2: on the flight, but I'm I'm gonna full sweat my
Speaker 2: back to an ascid already sweat, and they sweat the
Speaker 2: entire flight for our flight. We got a mammoth two
Speaker 2: seatso rifle us just snoring their ass off.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah in your aisle. Yeah yeah, logs like crazy.
Speaker 1: But even before that, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a bit of a deal on the plane.
Speaker 1: Flight was It started off with a lot of adversity,
Speaker 1: thankfully I answered the call. Well, I don't know if
Speaker 1: we'll see we'll determine, and you guys can determine whether
Speaker 1: I answered this call or not, because I can see
Speaker 1: where I might have went wrong a little bit right.
Speaker 2: But at first it started because I get on the
Speaker 2: plane and and the uh what are what are they called?
Speaker 3: The airline flight attendants.
Speaker 2: You can tell she's in a mood like, oh, we
Speaker 2: got a group of fucking dudes going to Vegas.
Speaker 3: Got rest face on?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, she for her dude, it's Nashville at six am. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're going to barely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're bringing different vibes. I'm like, should I sit here?
Speaker 2: Should I sit there? I like go over to sitting
Speaker 2: next to Ben Jones and realized, like he's too big
Speaker 2: and I want to sit next to him, So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go sit another seat. Michi's in the middle next
Speaker 2: to me, and I like lean back and I'm like
Speaker 2: talking with the boys.
Speaker 3: I think I just say shit.
Speaker 2: You come to find out it's like that's fucking bullshit,
Speaker 2: is what I ended up saying. I thought I thought
Speaker 2: I basically just said all like something something shit, and
Speaker 2: she literally goes, watch your mouth and I'm thinking Jesus Christ, like,
Speaker 2: what's up her ass? Come the fin out later cors like, bro,
Speaker 2: you said, like, dude, it was fucking bullshit.
Speaker 3: Yeah he was. It was loud about it. Yeah that might.
Speaker 1: I wish we'd do the progressive like pull the red
Speaker 1: challenge flight on that because I don't know if you
Speaker 1: said I.
Speaker 2: Think I would love to see the tape. But if
Speaker 2: that's true, like, okay.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: You know there's probably kids around. I'm like, oh, that's
Speaker 2: fucking I'm just hype for the boys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and everyone plays the same game when they get
Speaker 1: on Southwest flight. If you're lucky enough to have like
Speaker 1: that A one through thirty, if you're able to sit
Speaker 1: in that beginning little section, you think, and you're with
Speaker 1: a buddy, Hey, let's sit here. We'll try to make
Speaker 1: ourselves as big as possible. Put some shit in the
Speaker 1: middle of the seat, put the head down, give yourself
Speaker 1: like you're fucking like you might be mad in the world,
Speaker 1: like you might be a bit of a loose cannon.
Speaker 1: I don't want to sit next to that, right.
Speaker 3: Right, So I'm sitting next to but you know, there
Speaker 3: are a couple of stragglers.
Speaker 5: In the.
Speaker 3: Flight too. You think all people are going to miss
Speaker 3: this fight. Yeah, like me.
Speaker 1: I was sitting next to Corey. Yeah, Corey was in
Speaker 1: the window seat. I was in the aisle seat. We
Speaker 1: don't do too much, we don't get too elaborate. I
Speaker 1: take my tickets. I had a paper ticket for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: When I put my bag down, they said, do you want
Speaker 1: to take us? And no, I'm good to Hey, you
Speaker 1: get a free drink coupon, you might want to take
Speaker 1: the ticket. So I hit the ticket. I said, we
Speaker 1: both have our tickets. We put our tickets in the middle.
Speaker 1: That's really it. Then we're talking. We're doing the clothes
Speaker 1: talking with the aisles here, but.
Speaker 3: We're we're in the lean up. Yeah, mice comes.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell the Mischigan go back there. I
Speaker 2: was like, no, notice, sit in the middle, sit in
Speaker 2: the middle next to Will.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and so, and this lady is sitting I'm
Speaker 1: in the exit row. She's sitting in the exit row
Speaker 1: right next to me, kind of watching all this shit
Speaker 1: go down. And obviously I wasn't realizing at the time,
Speaker 1: but was not enjoying my process of trying to save
Speaker 1: my seat. So while people are starting to come in.
Speaker 1: The flight is getting fuller, But it's really we're not
Speaker 1: at a point of panic. Gay, We're not really in
Speaker 1: the crunch time of the game where you're gonna find
Speaker 1: out like are you catching this, w you're catching this L.
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out, Well, we have the two tickets
Speaker 1: up there, and I'm kind of we're playing chess with
Speaker 1: everybody else on board. You've got you have gotten that
Speaker 1: part of the story. What I don't realize this flight
Speaker 1: attendant seeing me and thinking to herself that she needs
Speaker 1: to be the vigilane to stop this entire process from happening.
Speaker 3: So what happens is trying to get She's trying to
Speaker 3: get one up on all the and get one up
Speaker 3: on us.
Speaker 1: She realizes that, okay, she's identified us as the group
Speaker 1: going to Vegas, the ones that are a little too
Speaker 1: excited that early in the morning, and she wants to
Speaker 1: put out that fire right and.
Speaker 3: There's a whole bunch of us. We're talking.
Speaker 1: I'm leaning forward, I'm looking to the right, I'm leaning
Speaker 1: to my back like there's a whole bunch of talking.
Speaker 3: A lot but a lot of head movement going on.
Speaker 1: She leans over to me and says, sir, can you
Speaker 1: uh move those tickets out the way so somebody can
Speaker 1: sit there. I'm thinking, bro, these are some fucking tickets,
Speaker 1: like well, and I go, yeah, no problem. So I
Speaker 1: take the tickets and I put them in there.
Speaker 3: What else?
Speaker 1: I look at her and I go, I can understand
Speaker 1: why that's a huge problem. I'll make sure to move
Speaker 1: those out of the way, little fucking four little tickets,
Speaker 1: And so I have That's probably the first point in
Speaker 1: which I could have handled myself a little bit different.
Speaker 3: Sure, ain't that yes, ma'am? No problem. Hit it with
Speaker 3: a yes, ma'am and move on.
Speaker 2: If you're her, you're like, all right, Ben, Yeah, yeah, she.
Speaker 1: Dialed that in. Now what happens after this? She did
Speaker 1: do a little bit more, looks can you say something
Speaker 1: else to well? We'll find out at the end of
Speaker 1: the story, Willy, We will find out the end of
Speaker 1: the story. As people are coming down, this heavy set
Speaker 1: black gentleman is walking down the aisle, she points. She goes, sir,
Speaker 1: they're starting to fillip in the back. Why don't you
Speaker 1: just go ahead and sit right here? Why don't you
Speaker 1: just go and sit in this seat right here? Looking
Speaker 1: in between me and Corey looking through me into the seat.
Speaker 1: Go sir, why don't you just go ahead? This seats
Speaker 1: open my hair? Go ahead. I take a quick peek
Speaker 1: back right, I catch my six. I look back. Ben
Speaker 1: Jones is doing the big elbows and he's got He's
Speaker 1: in that two seat piece in the exit row. Here's
Speaker 1: the two seat because the third heat's missing, so that
Speaker 1: last row behind it, that person's lottle leg room. Nick
Speaker 1: petite Ferrera took that he's a rookie. Is that okay
Speaker 1: for him to do? I wouldn't say that, but I'm
Speaker 1: not a guy to say, hey, rookie, get up, let
Speaker 1: me sit there. Instead, I let him have it. He
Speaker 1: wanted it, he got it. That is the way the
Speaker 1: game is played. He won that battle. And I'm looking around, like, bro,
Speaker 1: there's like three more aisles behind me with not only
Speaker 1: middle seats, but aisle seats as well. Fucking aisle seats
Speaker 1: are in this thing. People start to fill in. Everybody
Speaker 1: sits down, She goes to leave. She is now walking
Speaker 1: out of the row right next to me. She's walking out,
Speaker 1: and I could have done nothing, but I look up
Speaker 1: at her. I go, hey, I really appreciate you. Facilitating that.
Speaker 1: Thank god, we got that done. She fucking looks at me.
Speaker 3: You you got three big dudes, three big dudes in that row,
Speaker 3: in that.
Speaker 1: Row, bro, And then I'll get in more of the
Speaker 1: flight because there was some shenanigans that went down later.
Speaker 3: Well minutes in, like you know, yeah, yeah. She fucking
Speaker 3: points at me.
Speaker 1: She goes, sir, come here, gives me the finger, puts
Speaker 1: it in my face like this, and goes, come here,
Speaker 1: come with me to the back the plane. My first
Speaker 1: thought was, bet, we're going to the back of the plate,
Speaker 1: not the front of the lane. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: get keep off this plate. She takes me the back
Speaker 1: of the plane and basically is like, why are you
Speaker 1: being an asshole?
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, I was just kind of given.
Speaker 1: What I was getting, like I I And then I
Speaker 1: fucking did what every person should in this situation.
Speaker 3: You said, we're gonna have a problem. We gonna have
Speaker 3: a problem, We're gonna have a problem. And I tell
Speaker 3: her I was just gonna I was just giving what
Speaker 3: I was getting. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Bathrooms and I'm staying behind the bathrooms in a little whirling.
Speaker 3: Giggling like he just got called the principal's office. Yeah exactly, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I fucking I did what any individual should do in
Speaker 1: that situation. I took that fucking tail so far between
Speaker 1: my legs like it was it was touching my fucking belly.
Speaker 1: But I apologized to her. I said, I'm really sorry.
Speaker 1: And then she realizes that I am retracting everything. I
Speaker 1: am moving back. I have literally waved that white flag,
Speaker 1: and the game is over for me. She is now
Speaker 1: turning her personality into Hey, listen, I'm from Chicago. I
Speaker 1: have addressing to humor too. I take to myself that
Speaker 1: ain't dry. You just mad?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you were.
Speaker 1: Just you were mad at me for whatever reason from
Speaker 1: the get go. From the get go, she made a
Speaker 1: decision about us. Now the rest of the flight, sweetheart, Sweetheart,
Speaker 1: During it, she says, I haven't got my coffee yet.
Speaker 1: I see her about an hour later during the flight,
Speaker 1: I go coffee. She smiles at me and says, yes,
Speaker 1: every time she walks by, she's giving me a little
Speaker 1: extra attention.
Speaker 3: He can to get you into the coffee.
Speaker 1: Are you're all right? Laughs at my bad jokes, and
Speaker 1: she moves on. So we got through the flight.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: The guy sitting next to me. He was chicken pecking
Speaker 1: his way through South America. Dude, he was just bobbing
Speaker 1: and weaving the whole fuck.
Speaker 3: Up, putting his arm around on the end of like, yeah,
Speaker 3: at we.
Speaker 1: Have a little photo. I will send you guys a
Speaker 1: photo so we can put it up on the YouTube.
Speaker 1: But I go to the bathroom. At one point, that
Speaker 1: motherfucker had all of my aisle, Like I was in
Speaker 1: that corner like this dude sitting for like an hour
Speaker 1: and a half, like it was tough. Well, we get
Speaker 1: to Vegas, and I feel like Wily should take a
Speaker 1: little bit more that because I have been talking for
Speaker 1: a long time.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying we should probably pace because we
Speaker 2: still got to cover the NFL.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we start going into the halls like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're going, details, We're going.
Speaker 3: Was an incredible time.
Speaker 1: We had an amazing Some guys won, some guys lost,
Speaker 1: and some guys in between. There were a couple of
Speaker 1: big losers.
Speaker 3: Three grand Yeah yeah, welly good fucking shit. The ball
Speaker 3: to say what I lost, it's not important. What I
Speaker 3: did do is I won in friendship. I had a
Speaker 3: great weekend with my buddies.
Speaker 2: But yes, the first day, bro, we get to the
Speaker 2: we get to the hotel probably what.
Speaker 3: Nine o'clock, yeah, nine fifteen later at.
Speaker 2: Fifteen we're gambling early, gambling fast often early, drinking all
Speaker 2: of it. We get in a little high limits room
Speaker 2: just because the big dogs aren't there for the weekend yet,
Speaker 2: they moved the minimum down to like one hundred dollars
Speaker 2: a hand. By the weekend, they're saying there's five million
Speaker 2: dollars buy ins and the minimums on the table like
Speaker 2: five grand. Right, But we find us ourselves a nice
Speaker 2: little corner and we get a little that we're flowing.
Speaker 2: The energy is high. Hi, we realize we want to
Speaker 2: take a break, go upstairs, Like.
Speaker 3: We'll get a cigar down at three pm? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: cigar down early. What was that thing around? We're just
Speaker 3: language and terminology the high point of the weekend, but.
Speaker 2: We want to go upstairs for I guess just to
Speaker 2: take a break and wait for somebody else.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, power hour. Yeah, and like, hey, let's play
Speaker 3: this game.
Speaker 2: Lucy accy ac deocy a c deucy bro explain the p.
Speaker 1: And quickly explain the details of the game. That's a
Speaker 1: very simple game, all.
Speaker 2: Right, So ac ac deucy say jack, we are playing,
Speaker 2: and we put in a hundred dollar minimum. That's what
Speaker 2: the minimum was, one hundred dollars, so we're throwing it
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars. You put in you face up one card,
Speaker 2: face up another card.
Speaker 3: Say it's a four and a jack.
Speaker 2: You either want to hit and play the game, meaning
Speaker 2: you're thinking, the next card out of my hand is
Speaker 2: going to be in between a four and a jack.
Speaker 2: If you're like you would say pot, meaning you're betting
Speaker 2: what's in the pot, you would say pot, I flip
Speaker 2: up the card.
Speaker 3: If you're within the jack and the four, you win
Speaker 3: the pot.
Speaker 2: If you're outside of the jack and four, it's just
Speaker 2: outside of it, not jack or four.
Speaker 3: Outside of those two cards, you lose. You would just you.
Speaker 2: Would have to pay whatever you Yeah, if you bet
Speaker 2: the pot, you have to pay what's in the pot.
Speaker 2: So if it's five hundred dollars in the pot, you
Speaker 2: gotta pay five hundred dollars in the pot. If you post,
Speaker 2: meaning you hit the jack or the four, you have
Speaker 2: to double the pot. I learned very quickly that this
Speaker 2: is not gonna be the game that I want to
Speaker 2: partake in. I think after three hands, I was like,
Speaker 2: first two hands, it doesn't even get around to me.
Speaker 2: I don't even get the guess right, Like somebody either
Speaker 2: wins or somebody one right away, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I just lost. I just lose my money gone. And
Speaker 2: the next time I got to go, it's like I
Speaker 2: got like a nine and a seven. So I didn't
Speaker 2: get to Actually, I was like skip, because if you
Speaker 2: don't want to bet, you just say skip. Money stays in,
Speaker 2: it just goes to the next person. So, Bro, these
Speaker 2: hands are massive. I'm talking stair typical. You want an
Speaker 2: idea of NFL players gambling up in a hotel room,
Speaker 2: this is it.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 1: You could literally there was so much money on the table.
Speaker 1: At one point you could buy pay in full a
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three Honda Civic. Yeah, there was a Honda
Speaker 1: Civic on the table of money.
Speaker 2: Now when it stopped, when there's there's stuff in between
Speaker 2: that we can hit on too. Because Taylor, there was
Speaker 2: a big one where I'm like one, I'm telling Taylor
Speaker 2: and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like no, right, because it was I think the number
Speaker 1: was at eleven thousand and a half.
Speaker 2: Okay, ten and a half was it ain't cash in
Speaker 2: the fucking middle of the table, and I'm getting nervous,
Speaker 2: and you can see it's one of those things where
Speaker 2: if you lose your money, you're not losing it to
Speaker 2: you're you're not losing it to the casino where it's like, fuck,
Speaker 2: I bet ten grand and I lost it, Like that's
Speaker 2: all on you for betting that kind of money. You
Speaker 2: see your money go to your boy's hand and you're
Speaker 2: just trying to like the guys are trying to barter
Speaker 2: with each other, like trying to like, hey, help me out,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. You can see it's like getting I'm
Speaker 2: sweating and uh, there's ten and a half in the middle.
Speaker 3: And Taylor goes around.
Speaker 2: Telling Taylor I go, hey, brother, I go, even if
Speaker 2: it's an ACE two, you shouldn't do it.
Speaker 1: And as he's saying that to me, it's my turn
Speaker 1: on what pops up boys A two.
Speaker 2: But he's kind of making this I know, but if
Speaker 2: it happens, He's like, we won't know if until it
Speaker 2: actually gets there. But I'm like, just the chances of
Speaker 2: an ACE two hitting because as high too low, like
Speaker 2: you're you're not guarante the odds are very much in
Speaker 2: your favor.
Speaker 3: So Taylor comes around, what shows an ACE and a two?
Speaker 3: And I'm like that or ten thousan five hundred dollars
Speaker 3: four cards left?
Speaker 1: Now that I did not know that at first, it's
Speaker 1: right away, I go pot and whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa?
Speaker 3: Just wait? Did you say pot? Yes? I go fucking pot? Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I was like no, no, no, no, no, no, just wait.
Speaker 2: I was like I cannot Like. I was like, Taylor,
Speaker 2: what if an ACE or two happens, you have to
Speaker 2: pay not only the pot because you can't just miss
Speaker 2: you either post. You're paying twenty one thousand dollars to
Speaker 2: the middle one twenty one grand.
Speaker 3: I would have to twenty one extra grade in there.
Speaker 2: Right, ten and a half times to twenty one grand.
Speaker 2: He would have to put twenty one grand if he
Speaker 2: happened to Post. I'm like, I get that the odds
Speaker 2: are really in your favor, but if for whatever fucking reason,
Speaker 2: it's an ACE or two, you gotta spend twenty one grand.
Speaker 3: It's the afternoon on day one.
Speaker 1: Day one, Like it's one pm. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: fucking one PM outside.
Speaker 2: I told Taling, like, if you want to do it,
Speaker 2: like everybody's kind of like, you know you you don't
Speaker 2: have to say pot. You can say I'll bet a
Speaker 2: thousand to the towards the pot. So if you win,
Speaker 2: you only win a thousand. If you lose, you pay
Speaker 2: a thousand or.
Speaker 3: Two thousand if you post. I Will and I are
Speaker 3: a legit.
Speaker 1: Now Will has taken me like a parent parental figure
Speaker 1: and brought me over to the corner of the room
Speaker 1: to give me a stern conversation about what could and
Speaker 1: could not happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we the second walk. I got that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I got taken.
Speaker 1: For a walk by Will. Will goes Bro says the
Speaker 1: whole conversation. He just said to me, I look over,
Speaker 1: I go, hey, how many cards are left? They said four. Now,
Speaker 1: while everyone's arguing, because everyone is once the money is
Speaker 1: getting this high, everyone's arguing about what I should do
Speaker 1: in this situation. While people are arguing, I do the
Speaker 1: number one thing you shouldn't do when you're playing cards,
Speaker 1: Taylor tries looking for I started moving the cards out
Speaker 1: of the way to see how many aces, how many
Speaker 1: two's I can see?
Speaker 3: I saw one ace and one, two, so four cards.
Speaker 2: But right when he touches, everybody's kind of like, oh,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like, hey, you can't do that.
Speaker 3: I'm on Taylor's side, but I'm like, you can't. I know,
Speaker 3: and that is fair, that is that is a fair
Speaker 3: thing you did.
Speaker 1: But I really in that position, it was like, I
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck how people view me.
Speaker 3: I need to make sure I'm.
Speaker 2: Bro like, but that's how high them, that's how high
Speaker 2: this game was getting.
Speaker 3: So in like what do you have there?
Speaker 2: And like, let's just say Taylor had like five grand,
Speaker 2: He's like, you can do half of that, just bet it.
Speaker 2: So then if you lose, you just pay what you
Speaker 2: have available. Because some people are having a start, you
Speaker 2: get to where it's like it's not even there money,
Speaker 2: the cash.
Speaker 3: Isn't even there anymore.
Speaker 2: You got a venmo at this point, right, you're in
Speaker 2: the digital it's in the air.
Speaker 3: And so Taylor ends up betting it. What flips over
Speaker 3: to A two?
Speaker 2: A fucking two, And I'm like, bro, Fortunately he had
Speaker 2: whatever he had bet at that.
Speaker 1: Moment, so all my money was now, all this money
Speaker 1: was gone, My cash was gone.
Speaker 3: His cash.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had other ways of getting getting money with
Speaker 1: the casino.
Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, we'll be all right.
Speaker 3: And then I think it's a big one on like
Speaker 3: a King three.
Speaker 1: Hey, let's not say too many names. Now, pot gets
Speaker 1: up to seventeen thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: And someone pots it because it was age three, age.
Speaker 3: Four, it was King three.
Speaker 1: I think it was King three pots it.
Speaker 2: It hits a you know it posts or a King
Speaker 2: thirty two or thirty four grand to the middle. That's
Speaker 2: when everybody was kind of like, all right, this has
Speaker 2: gotten out of hand. We should figure out a way
Speaker 2: to stop this.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So people ended up kind of getting some of their money.
Speaker 2: People got most of their money back, and whoever played
Speaker 2: the best game got a little bit more on top.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you bullshit, but that's not We're not
Speaker 1: it's not worth going into right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got your you got your kid, you got
Speaker 3: got my money back.
Speaker 1: I got I basically got my money back, which I'm
Speaker 1: very great before.
Speaker 3: So but that was fucking nuts. Bro.
Speaker 2: I'm talking and I'm sitting there looking at like JP
Speaker 2: and Mitch, like I don't even know what these guys
Speaker 2: are thinking. They're thinking, they're thinking all their things that
Speaker 2: they could probably do and buy and live for like
Speaker 2: years off of ye.
Speaker 1: At one point, Mitch goes, hey, that's a year's worth
Speaker 1: of rent just sitting there right now. Yeah, yes, crazy,
Speaker 1: were you about to say that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I was like, that's five months rent. Oh God on
Speaker 6: the table and you guys are just throwing it around
Speaker 6: like it's nothing, and I'm r I was sweating for
Speaker 6: you guys, and I had nothing to do with what.
Speaker 3: Was going on the way. It was wild, bro.
Speaker 6: It was the most money I've ever seen in my
Speaker 6: entire life.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We we were down on the tables once and we
Speaker 2: asked this the dealer, like, what's the most money you've seen.
Speaker 3: Lost in one of these casually?
Speaker 2: She says eighty seven million dollars on one hand in
Speaker 2: blackjack one hand. And she says, also the highest I've
Speaker 2: ever seen one was the same guy in the same
Speaker 2: sitting one hundred and twenty seven million, Bro, how do you?
Speaker 3: How do you? Fucking?
Speaker 1: And I hope she was lying for theatrical purposes, like
Speaker 1: low key shoot that maybe the story will get out there.
Speaker 3: I know that's nothing to them, that would be nothing.
Speaker 3: That's what's crazy about the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Crazy dude, that night, things went really well. This gentleman
Speaker 1: named Marty in the high roller table he was leaving.
Speaker 1: We've had plenty of drinks by this point, we're hugging
Speaker 1: Marty and his juju, and that hug gave us we
Speaker 1: We got a dub night one at the Aria, we
Speaker 1: got a big dub.
Speaker 3: All of us.
Speaker 1: Everybody won big except for one individual who we will
Speaker 1: not name at this point. They lost pretty bad, but
Speaker 1: it was an incredible It was an incredible time.
Speaker 3: The next two days we did pods.
Speaker 1: It was amazing, maybe the best pods Will and I
Speaker 1: have facilitated.
Speaker 3: I think we both did a very good job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, Yeah, it was fucking They were also
Speaker 1: hear them, They're gonna be awesome. Now I get home Sunday.
Speaker 1: Obviously the Saturday game has already played. Jacksonville lost. We
Speaker 1: I mean, we all kind of thought that could happen.
Speaker 1: They put up a good fight. They had a phenomenal season.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Jacksonville is on the up and up. A
Speaker 1: lot of people are using the phrase changing of the
Speaker 1: guard in the AFC south of the Jacksonville Jaguars. I
Speaker 1: hope that's not true, because obviously your boys a Titan
Speaker 1: for life. But at the same time, like if that
Speaker 1: is like if I'm a Duvall fan, I am extremely
Speaker 1: happy about all the turmoil that they have gone through
Speaker 1: and now are Lawrence is starting to play, He's started
Speaker 1: to play ball, started to play ball to life.
Speaker 3: They lose who What's the night game?
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 3: Eagles Giants?
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought Jalen Hurts would be a little
Speaker 1: rusty coming off being injured and stuff like that, but
Speaker 1: they fucking I forgot how good.
Speaker 2: The Eagles And without asking, Yeah, I forgot how good
Speaker 2: the Eagles were.
Speaker 3: It's like they are dominant, they are like that in
Speaker 3: the trenches.
Speaker 1: Juligit really did forget who they were. Like as far
Speaker 1: as how good they are across the.
Speaker 3: Board, they didn't have it.
Speaker 2: I don't think they really had the primetime games like that,
Speaker 2: or if they did, it was like Jalen wasn't in.
Speaker 3: It was Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 2: And then they had the bye week, so you kind
Speaker 2: of again kind of forget for a sake, and then
Speaker 2: you're like, are they going to seem like the Baltimore
Speaker 2: Ravens in twenty nineteen coming off the bye week? But bro,
Speaker 2: they are fucking Juggernauts. Dude, the Niners are gonna have
Speaker 2: their hands full big time, especially after the way they
Speaker 2: played the Cowboys, because I don't Cowboys didn't play that well.
Speaker 1: No they didn't, but I would say that, like we
Speaker 1: said this before in the last part, the Eagles and
Speaker 1: the Niners are the two best put together teams in
Speaker 1: the NFL, and I think, but I think the big
Speaker 1: difference is going to be the quarterback and that's gonna be.
Speaker 3: A big difference.
Speaker 1: And I hate Yeah, I don't know if you want
Speaker 1: to put out who's gonna win that now, but I'm
Speaker 1: really ready to say mine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's gonna be tough, man. I think
Speaker 3: it's gonna be hard.
Speaker 2: I'm going back and forth just because we got bet
Speaker 2: the bus this week and I'm really, like I've said,
Speaker 2: Niners are winning the Super Bowl for the last couple
Speaker 2: of weeks now, and after watching this past weekend, it's like, fuck,
Speaker 2: the Eagles are tough.
Speaker 3: They're tough. Bro.
Speaker 7: That release is gonna be dicey too, with only two
Speaker 7: games on the board, right, two.
Speaker 3: Games of the board and probably double the money then,
Speaker 3: so du.
Speaker 2: Bro, because we went too and two I think on
Speaker 2: the if you just go by games like I was.
Speaker 2: The parlay parlays fucking just killed me, dude. I chase
Speaker 2: them all, I chase all the parlay Let me just
Speaker 2: have one more leg here. Oh that looks good.
Speaker 1: And you're saying all conservative bets you made this weekend.
Speaker 1: Do what A couple of your parlays were very conservative,
Speaker 1: like oh, these you even put the meter down.
Speaker 2: To the point, I like moved the line on. I
Speaker 2: just did like the Niners money line. I did the
Speaker 2: over under. I moved it down like forty and the
Speaker 2: Niners to score twenty four points, and they fucking.
Speaker 3: They don't do it right, they don't do it.
Speaker 2: And again I feel like they just missed out, Like dude,
Speaker 2: the situational awareness by the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Both teams honestly were playing really bad ball at the
Speaker 3: end of the game. Yeah, because who was Mitchell Mitchell?
Speaker 1: Mitchell, Well get the first down and runs out of bounds, Like, bro,
Speaker 1: you have to make a hard left turn in that
Speaker 1: situation and just go down. Yeah, you don't need yards
Speaker 1: at that point. You need to suck up time.
Speaker 2: I always wanting a touchdown because they were at nineteen points.
Speaker 2: I wanted somebody to break one and get up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeahs Derek Henry run away for me exactly, and that
Speaker 1: likely if I'm I'm Ezekiel Elliott, I am blaming Mitchell
Speaker 1: for that because if they would have done that, the
Speaker 1: game would have been over and they would have never
Speaker 1: been in that position to that dumb ass play they
Speaker 1: did before.
Speaker 3: Bro, how about that last play of the game, Like,
Speaker 3: what were you thinking?
Speaker 1: I was thinking, everybody has this play. Everybody has like
Speaker 1: we used to call it Cheetah when kesin Ken wiz
Speaker 1: Hunt was in where you would literally be like all
Speaker 1: the offense linemen off the field except for the center
Speaker 1: because the center would snap the ball and then it's
Speaker 1: basically just playing backyard football. Lateral pass is only hoping
Speaker 1: to God like it's it's your hail Mary attempts when
Speaker 1: you're out of a hail Mary range. Now, Guy, when
Speaker 1: I saw Zeke do that, how legit just felt bad
Speaker 1: for him. Hands were outside, he had not a lot
Speaker 1: of need. Ben like that's bad all.
Speaker 3: You know, thinking this is gonna be fucking horrendous. No,
Speaker 3: I think the the opposite.
Speaker 1: I think when they put that play in probably week
Speaker 1: two of the season, maybe even during camp and you
Speaker 1: going over situational stuff on Saturdays. Zeke gets like, hey, Zeke,
Speaker 1: you're gonna snap and he's probably bragging the boys. Like, man,
Speaker 1: I watched this ship and he's snapping and it's hitting
Speaker 1: Dak right in the chest. He goes, man, anybody can
Speaker 1: do this, Like he's literally probably bragging the guys. Now
Speaker 1: situation comes up and my man gets his hands hands
Speaker 1: put on him.
Speaker 3: I saw that happen. I go, this play is fucking dead.
Speaker 1: The minute I saw a Zeke start stumbling to the ground, go,
Speaker 1: this is It's over. And then Dak throws the ball.
Speaker 1: He throws a fucking muffin to Buddy and he gets
Speaker 1: his ass fucking smelling. I'm like, what a stupid fucking play. Yes,
Speaker 1: the only worst play I've ever seen in that is
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts on that on that uh fake punt.
Speaker 3: But yeah against the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Now, Pat McAfee has come out and said they weren't
Speaker 1: supposed to snap the ball in that situation. If we're
Speaker 1: going to believe Pat in that type of situation, then
Speaker 1: that is the worst football player I've ever seen. That
Speaker 1: shit is. That shit was so embarrassingly terrible, and I
Speaker 1: can't imagine they hate right now.
Speaker 3: I know Stephen A.
Speaker 1: Smith, him and his hairline were fucking laughing their ass
Speaker 1: off at Dak Prescott because they hate the cowboys, him
Speaker 1: and his hair.
Speaker 2: It's like, basically like people are saying like a legacy game,
Speaker 2: like yeah, you know, how's that gonna?
Speaker 3: I kept saying it on.
Speaker 1: The broadcast, so like, hey, things are shaping up exactly
Speaker 1: like last year's game. Things are shaping up for Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott to have his statement game that he's gonna do X,
Speaker 1: Y and Z, and he just couldn't put together. I
Speaker 1: can't play quarterbacks. I have no room to throw shade.
Speaker 1: But the ship looked bad. And also another person to
Speaker 1: blame is that fucking tight end casually catching the ball
Speaker 1: and just stepping out. Buddy, this ain't college. You gotta
Speaker 1: put both of them little boys in the ground before
Speaker 1: you hit the white paint.
Speaker 2: You try to make sure you get four steps in,
Speaker 2: like you don't just think, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just go to the ground, put them bitches in
Speaker 1: and fucking fall in the pocket.
Speaker 2: Running because he look he was casually going out of
Speaker 2: bounds and then just kind of walked versus like fighting
Speaker 2: forward to get.
Speaker 1: Out of them and brock Perty had another bad play
Speaker 1: too at the end of half was it the end
Speaker 1: half of the uh? Was it? I can't really remember,
Speaker 1: but I remember it was like it was the end
Speaker 1: of a half and there was like eight seconds left
Speaker 1: and he looks and look and goes to his like
Speaker 1: third third or fourth read.
Speaker 3: It's like bro out of the Yeah, before the you
Speaker 3: have enough time. They almost they almost lost that.
Speaker 2: I mean, big work day for Madden ratings people. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the awareness and bring those awareness ratings down on some
Speaker 2: of those guys.
Speaker 3: That ship is bad.
Speaker 1: Bro the Shultz that was that's just really bad ball
Speaker 1: of Mitchell. It was a mistake that a lot of
Speaker 1: people have made in the past, but you would think
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan goes over that ship every single week. And
Speaker 1: you got to know four minute like no penalties if
Speaker 1: you there's no holding in four minute like if you hold,
Speaker 1: you get beat for a TfL.
Speaker 3: That's better than a hold.
Speaker 1: There's no penalties, stay in bounds and if you're injured
Speaker 1: unless it's like broken, you have to get.
Speaker 3: Off the field, like unless you're dying.
Speaker 1: And that happened in two minutes for the Cowboys as well.
Speaker 1: They're going into half and they were throwing the ball
Speaker 1: and Paulard gets a high ankle. Spring hinkle, Spring's hurt.
Speaker 1: I've had them.
Speaker 3: That shit sucks.
Speaker 1: But you gotta hobble your way off that field to
Speaker 1: keep that the clock running or I'm sorry, you have
Speaker 1: to hobl off the field so they can either clock
Speaker 1: it or go because they had to burn a time
Speaker 1: out in that situation. Yeah, that's just that's just tough.
Speaker 1: That is a tough, tough deal.
Speaker 3: What then you go to the What's up? No go ahead?
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, then you go to the AFC,
Speaker 2: the Bill's Bengals. Yeah, Joe Burrow's fucking I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I always feel like I end up just not thinking
Speaker 2: about the Bengals. But the last couple of years now,
Speaker 2: like Joe Burrow is the fucking man bro.
Speaker 1: And it's it's it's sad if you're a Josh Allen fan,
Speaker 1: because before this season, in the middle of the season,
Speaker 1: it was Patrick Mahomes Josh Allen one A one B,
Speaker 1: Like those are the two dudes in the AFC, and
Speaker 1: everyone's kind of like, hey, Joe Burrow is a fucking stud, Like,
Speaker 1: don't get a twisted my man can sing that thing,
Speaker 1: he can rip that thing. He can rip that thing
Speaker 1: all over the yard. The only situation is is like
Speaker 1: these are these these are the two studs. That is
Speaker 1: what it is. Josh ends up declining late in the season,
Speaker 1: a lot of turnovers, he wasn't thrown as well. He's
Speaker 1: got an elite skill set that a lot of guys
Speaker 1: don't have, using his legs in certain situations. But now,
Speaker 1: after the game yesterday, you kind of sit there and
Speaker 1: if you were to go one, two, three, right now,
Speaker 1: it's Mahomes, Burrow, Allen. If you're going to rank those
Speaker 1: quarterbacks just based off of this last game.
Speaker 3: My question is, do you think Joe Burrow becomes number
Speaker 3: one if.
Speaker 1: He gets a Super Bowl this year? It's hard to say.
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, right, Mahomes is only on one.
Speaker 2: I would think, so he went to the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: last two years and if he wins it this.
Speaker 1: Year, yeah, But the argument is, Mahomes has been in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl it seems like every year. And I
Speaker 1: know that's a skewed number, right, They've lost the AFC Championship,
Speaker 1: they've lost in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: But I feel like, but if jot that.
Speaker 2: Joe wins this weekend. He will have beat the Chiefs
Speaker 2: the last four games in.
Speaker 1: A row, four games in a row, And I honestly
Speaker 1: believe with a with a Patrick Mahomes ankle, you got
Speaker 1: to lean towards the Bengals.
Speaker 2: I think the Bengals are winning it. I think the
Speaker 2: Bengals are winning this weekend because I really think, like,
Speaker 2: I know, Pat's going to be a badass and be
Speaker 2: out there and player do everything possible to play up.
Speaker 2: But I just think coming off of a high angle spring,
Speaker 2: I mean you you know how high englesprings are.
Speaker 3: Some guys might miss up to six weeks with a high.
Speaker 1: Offering, Dude, High gol springs suck, and you can only
Speaker 1: like you legit make it worse for you playoff it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like he played on it because you got the
Speaker 2: only going. You know, he took a tourd all shot
Speaker 2: in the locker room like you're doing all these things. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the next two days, bro, you probably feel like your
Speaker 2: leg is broken with the hankles brings.
Speaker 3: He's probably in a boot right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably in a boot right now, and he
Speaker 1: still grimaces when he walks in a boot.
Speaker 2: Thinking to myself, how in the fuck Am I about
Speaker 2: to make this happen this week?
Speaker 3: Right now? You know he's going to do anything possible
Speaker 3: to shoot that shit out. That thing's going to be
Speaker 3: taped to the nines. He is going to do whatever
Speaker 3: it takes.
Speaker 1: Now, on the flip side of saying, Joe Burrow, if
Speaker 1: he wins, he's like the number one quarterback. If Pat
Speaker 1: Mahomes takes this team with the Super Bowl and wins
Speaker 1: the super Bowl with.
Speaker 3: That ankle, go go, this generation's j You just that
Speaker 3: they'll win real fast, buddy.
Speaker 1: But this generation's quarterbacks, which are an incredible group of
Speaker 1: quarterbacks right the three we've already mentioned. Lamar Jackson's in
Speaker 1: there for Lawrence is now coming along like there is
Speaker 1: a crazy amount of talent at the quarterback position in
Speaker 1: the NFL right now at a very young age. He
Speaker 1: goes and takes them boys to the super Bowl and
Speaker 1: wins the super.
Speaker 3: Bowl on that ankle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is go to to that generation. Generation of
Speaker 1: that generation, dude, Yeah, agree with that. It is fucking cool. Now.
Speaker 2: I do think the I think the Bengals are gonna
Speaker 2: I think the Bengals are winning fairly easy.
Speaker 1: Oh, it seems like the Bengals do a great job
Speaker 1: on defense.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And I feel like they'll get after I feel they'll
Speaker 2: get after Pad a little bit.
Speaker 1: Kansas City is like the Big twelve.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 1: They air rate that thing out, but for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: like they'll go shot for shot in games with other
Speaker 1: teamscuse their defense. I can't get it done. And I
Speaker 1: don't know that that probably hurt to hear from camp.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't feel like they got an O
Speaker 2: line like that that's gonna protect him because also the
Speaker 2: high angles praying and it is right ankle, that's.
Speaker 1: His back foot. Yeah, I think I think it's his
Speaker 1: right ankle. It is all right.
Speaker 2: I think the Bengals see blood in the water and
Speaker 2: it's going to be a long day for the Kanca Chiefs.
Speaker 3: That's what I think. Wow, that's what That's what I think.
Speaker 1: What's the funny You're undecided on on uh San Francisco
Speaker 1: and Eagles, which is fair, I am right now you're
Speaker 1: willing to stamp it well.
Speaker 3: You and the Chiefs have got a weird fucking deal
Speaker 3: going bro.
Speaker 2: And I know that's that's what peop might think. But
Speaker 2: also if you look at what's what just unfolded over
Speaker 2: the weekend.
Speaker 3: I think that's a fair thing to say, right, but
Speaker 3: you can't cannot Pat Mahomes.
Speaker 1: That dude was literally jumping in the air just to
Speaker 1: throw a little little toss over to Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 3: He was doing some things even then. Now I'm counting Chad.
Speaker 1: Is it Chad Henny Michigan legend takes him on a
Speaker 1: ninety eight yard fucking drive, does an incredible job. Dice
Speaker 1: is the boys up like it's no big deal at all.
Speaker 1: Was literally out there being a field general, crushing it
Speaker 1: for the boys. You put him in the game. He's
Speaker 1: a stud too. Now they have fucking they have an
Speaker 1: elite offense. I don't know what their defense is statistically,
Speaker 1: but it really seems to me like they're obviously the
Speaker 1: lacking piece that needs to figure it out, which is Chiefs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they have Frank Cark, they got Chris Jones like
Speaker 1: they have. They have an elite front that is scary
Speaker 1: to play against.
Speaker 3: But Joe Burr's about to get nasty on them. Boy,
Speaker 3: he was about to get nasty. Joe is Joe cool?
Speaker 1: Dude? The fucking we were talking about this when we
Speaker 1: were working out this morning. That slow mo video in
Speaker 1: the snow where Joe fucking rips that thing and it
Speaker 1: hits us spinny hits a three sixty piece and then
Speaker 1: the receiver is not even in the fucking screen at
Speaker 1: that point. So he's like, Yo, where's where's he shipping
Speaker 1: off this rocket to He shifts that rocket off to
Speaker 1: the left side. He just does a cool little spin
Speaker 1: arms flop it in the air like Gumby, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, that little thing just places it perfectly
Speaker 1: that wide receiver. It's incredible at this.
Speaker 3: He's just so fucking that is just like cool, that
Speaker 3: is cool.
Speaker 1: Before Joe Burrow got to the Bengals, I don't care
Speaker 1: who you are, don't even care if you're a Bengals fan.
Speaker 1: You look at those helmets of that uniform and that team,
Speaker 1: he'd be like, man, they fucking suck. Joe Burrow makes
Speaker 1: that shit cool as hell.
Speaker 2: I don't know shot Shadow Josko. Back when he was
Speaker 2: playing the they had a couple of twelve and four seasons.
Speaker 1: They was nice Adie Dollond Dude, the red rocket was
Speaker 1: this Palmer, Yeah, Carson Palmer, I mean, but still like
Speaker 1: they would never like a team. He'd be like, Oh,
Speaker 1: we got to watch out for them. Joe Burrow is
Speaker 1: legit making them super Bowl contenders a year like he said,
Speaker 1: his year and a year out now right.
Speaker 3: He said, as long as he's there, they will always
Speaker 3: have a shot out.
Speaker 1: What they were talking about the AFC Championship game in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: say go ahead and get those refunds Boston.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they win by double digits.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's getting stronger. I don't know about double Diggi's
Speaker 1: on me. I don't know about double duty's, but I do.
Speaker 1: I think right now, if you're just looking at the game,
Speaker 1: this is a Monday, this comes out on Tuesday. You
Speaker 1: gotta look at and say, you have no idea how
Speaker 1: pass feeling. He can shoot up all the things in
Speaker 1: the world, all the turtle in the world.
Speaker 3: He can literally numb the ankle. It's still gonna fucking hurt, dude.
Speaker 1: I'm picking the Bengals, not by double digits, but I'm
Speaker 1: picking the Bengals in that game.
Speaker 3: What do you think, Jack, You're back there like laughing.
Speaker 7: No, I was laughing just because you have a vendetta
Speaker 7: against He really does bro.
Speaker 2: Which is tough, which is tough too, because you know,
Speaker 2: obviously Nebraska fans are tuned into listening to Matt Rupot
Speaker 2: and Nebraska loves their chiefs too, because that's like the
Speaker 2: closest pro team.
Speaker 7: No, I think I think the Bengals are gonna win.
Speaker 2: I think they're going.
Speaker 3: Back to Super Bowl. It's the Eagles forty nine Ers
Speaker 3: game is the toss up to me.
Speaker 7: But I I want to see the forty nine ers
Speaker 7: in it, especially for our benefit once we're out in
Speaker 7: AZ for the Super Bowl, because like we have a
Speaker 7: lot more connections with the forty nine ers. But I
Speaker 7: don't see the Eagles letting up after this past game.
Speaker 7: It's tough to say that the forty nine ers gonna
Speaker 7: be able to handle them. But that's the game I'm
Speaker 7: looking forward to.
Speaker 3: I think most yeah, that one O. That game is
Speaker 3: going to be elite. Dude, it really is. Both games.
Speaker 1: I'm legitimately excited to watch football this weekend.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be incredible.
Speaker 1: One thing to mention on the Buffalo Bill side, man,
Speaker 1: is what a fucking story that would have been if
Speaker 1: they were able to pull it out against the Bengals
Speaker 1: and go win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: The Damar Hamlin University. He was there. There was a
Speaker 3: hilarious picture by the way that.
Speaker 7: The guys seen, though the conspiracy theories going around that
Speaker 7: that wasn't even Damar Hamlin at the game because they didn't.
Speaker 7: They don't show his face one time on the broadcast too,
Speaker 7: So there's something there. I'm not saying that's my conspiracy.
Speaker 3: You are the one saying it right now.
Speaker 1: The internet is go look it up.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of people out there bugging about the
Speaker 7: DeMar Hamlin was not actually at that game and they
Speaker 7: had someone just dressed up as him as a way
Speaker 7: to get the fans ready, because you they had him
Speaker 7: on the broadcast the whole time and he's complete letely
Speaker 7: put it up, covered face toe, like you don't see hands,
Speaker 7: you don't see anything.
Speaker 3: Just something to think about. I think I want to
Speaker 3: buy that stock too, Do you really? I think?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 3: What do you think tomorrow is?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 3: I don't know. The rabbit hole goes deep and.
Speaker 2: We all know, like before the game they were talking
Speaker 2: about announcing him walking out of the tunnel, and the
Speaker 2: person we were seeing tomorrow or not, he seemed like
Speaker 2: he had some you know, well, it seems like you're
Speaker 2: there like moving well, like when he got off the
Speaker 2: golf cart. It was almost like get a little jug
Speaker 2: into the locker room.
Speaker 7: Some some person stitched it on TikTok and they were
Speaker 7: talking about their mom is a cardiovascular surgeon, and they're saying,
Speaker 7: with what he went through that you shouldn't be able
Speaker 7: to put your hands above your head this far out
Speaker 7: of what was.
Speaker 3: Happening to him.
Speaker 7: And they show closer with him in the box and
Speaker 7: he's doing this and he's like cheering, Well, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I I have no stance on this.
Speaker 3: I just like to present it.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and and that's a great job going through
Speaker 1: those rocky waters, right, because we don't be disrespectful to
Speaker 1: tomorrow in his situation, he might be an absolute alien
Speaker 1: and having amaze like doing what he's doing is according
Speaker 1: to the cardiovascular mother, it's a big deal. I was
Speaker 1: told by people that are in the world of knowing
Speaker 1: cardiovascular stuff that when this first went down, this is
Speaker 1: literally the next day I'm having a conversations people that
Speaker 1: like they were saying, he's got a little to any
Speaker 1: chance of even not being a wheelchair for the rest
Speaker 1: of his life or not being you know, supported in
Speaker 1: some type of way. Now, I'm incredibly happy that he
Speaker 1: is is now being all right, Like, what a scary
Speaker 1: scene we could have all because we literally moved the
Speaker 1: pod because of it. Like we are trying to be
Speaker 1: a sensitive possible situation. We're just talking about what we
Speaker 1: were told and what's out there having a conversation, and
Speaker 1: it's all speculation. One thing to not speculate, though, is
Speaker 1: the Nebraska corn husters got themselves.
Speaker 3: A fucking head coach.
Speaker 1: Boys, Hey, they got themselves a fucking stud. This man
Speaker 1: that rule came and sat on this on this little
Speaker 1: bitty couch and was out there putting out fucking He
Speaker 1: was like a modern da philosopher.
Speaker 3: The way he was talking to us.
Speaker 1: He was talking about how his foundation goes to the team,
Speaker 1: what he does the president, he's going to set what
Speaker 1: he does and does not want in the building, the
Speaker 1: types of guys that are going to take Nebraska back
Speaker 1: to those that nineties prevalence.
Speaker 3: I believe the word is he was. I got fired up.
Speaker 1: Even as a Michigan fan, You're like, damn, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be great for the Big ten. A guy like him,
Speaker 1: his attitude, his mindset can only imagine how you feel willy.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows where I'm at. I think Nebraska will be
Speaker 2: back sooner than we all like to speculate on. How
Speaker 2: I say we all, I mean the haters. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Well no, I think we're you know, I think we're
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're going bowling this year.
Speaker 3: Well you're going bowling no matter what.
Speaker 2: We're going bowling, no matter what. But I think we're
Speaker 2: gonna have a winning record. I think we hit at
Speaker 2: least seven wins this year.
Speaker 1: Beat Michigan.
Speaker 3: I'm sure.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'll find a way to figure that out
Speaker 2: by the time and that game comes.
Speaker 3: A win or lose.
Speaker 7: Though we can all agree Matt Rule is a guy
Speaker 7: that you want leading your team, right he is all
Speaker 7: the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the real deal. And I love his transparracy.
Speaker 2: I love the way he was talking about the adversities
Speaker 2: he's went through, even in the instance where we were like, okay,
Speaker 2: you get fired, but obviously people, you know, being a
Speaker 2: fired head coach these days, you get the what is
Speaker 2: it called the money that they get, what's that called
Speaker 2: the buyout? The buyout money.
Speaker 3: That they get.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, what kind of adversity were you really
Speaker 2: in and then he goes in and talk about it.
Speaker 3: I think people will enjoy hearing that.
Speaker 1: They're enjoyed a lot. And there is a very important
Speaker 1: document that is discussed on this on this bus that
Speaker 1: you will have to turn in tune into, and I
Speaker 1: hope you guys really enjoys we get through the episode.
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Speaker 2: If you zoom in on Jack's beanie, all of our
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Speaker 3: So the pocket teas are best seller.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, with that being said, let's get to the episode
Speaker 1: right after. Wait, do we do shout out? No free
Speaker 1: shoutout on this pod show?
Speaker 2: Shout out goes to the vibe, the day one take off,
Speaker 2: going to Vegas with the boys, the hype, the energy,
Speaker 2: the vibes.
Speaker 3: They cannot be killed. That's my shot out.
Speaker 1: No free shut out, My shoutout, no free shodout is
Speaker 1: going to when you're in college and you have a
Speaker 1: hard fought grind Monday through Friday, and you have that
Speaker 1: early Friday workout and you get done, take that deep exhale,
Speaker 1: and you know, hey, we worked hard. Now it's not
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Speaker 1: get to the Matt Rule episode Special guest with Us Today,
Speaker 1: Coach Matt Rule. Let's give this man a round of
Speaker 1: applause for being out here today, Big ten Championship Coach
Speaker 1: Matt Rule from you coming on this bus travling all
Speaker 1: the way to Nashville, the see US. I wanted to
Speaker 1: give you a gift. Will and I talked about it
Speaker 1: and we thought you should have this, Oh, the University
Speaker 1: of Michigan Compton Jersey.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: And I thought you might want to hang that up
Speaker 1: in your so much. Yeah. Will really, when we went
Speaker 1: to Michigan, Will really wanted that. He thought, I want
Speaker 1: to be a part of something special. So we got
Speaker 1: that for him. We were up there in ann.
Speaker 3: Arbor, Michigan.
Speaker 2: They saw how well it went in Nebraska and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: we gotta we gotta do some jerseys for the boys too,
Speaker 2: because Nebraska.
Speaker 3: You know how they take care of you in Nebraska.
Speaker 1: Now they really do. I was wildly surprised when we
Speaker 1: went their last spring how they were literally for the
Speaker 1: boys the whole way so much showed that the next
Speaker 1: week we were going to Michigan, and I was like
Speaker 1: sending text to people like, hey, I need you guys
Speaker 1: to be straight. I need you guys to handle my boy.
Speaker 1: And they hooked the boys up and everything. Both outstanding schools.
Speaker 1: So let's get right into it, dude, how do you
Speaker 1: defeat Michigan?
Speaker 5: They are they're rolling, they roll until they get to
Speaker 5: the playoffs.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean it's a great game that game.
Speaker 5: I was actually in Mexico and my wife she uh,
Speaker 5: she set up whale watching and.
Speaker 3: Like during the game, during the game, a great.
Speaker 5: Picture of my son on the phone, like there's a
Speaker 5: literally a whale jumping out of the water and my
Speaker 5: son's over there watching the game. Oh no, it looked
Speaker 5: like it was gonna be a blowout. But credit to
Speaker 5: coach Harball, the boys fought back. I mean, you know,
Speaker 5: big ten, you know Big ten.
Speaker 1: There you go, that's what we need to do because
Speaker 1: as the Big ten, we had guys in the back
Speaker 1: of her SEC fans. Garrett and Jack are SEC fans,
Speaker 1: and they're like No, it's every man for himself out there.
Speaker 1: That's the wild West and the Big Ten. We have
Speaker 1: to come together, There's no doubt.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because because I think, I personally think like the
Speaker 5: future of the Big Ten.
Speaker 8: We get SC, we get u c l A In.
Speaker 5: I think it's going to be like the Premiere Conference
Speaker 5: and so but that boys, when when the playoff expands,
Speaker 5: I'm excited to see what happens. I think our league will,
Speaker 5: you know, especially when they start playing some home games.
Speaker 5: You know, if that if that ends up being the deal.
Speaker 5: It's imagine that game being played in ann Arbor with
Speaker 5: what the difference would have been.
Speaker 3: To stand a chance.
Speaker 5: So I as I walk across f Nebraskas Campus sometimes
Speaker 5: and feel that wind whip through you, I want to
Speaker 5: play games at home.
Speaker 3: And just.
Speaker 2: When you get to the side of the Hawks, you're
Speaker 2: going to get some food. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that wind just eats you up. Bro, it's in Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Let's play football in that. But let's play football in
Speaker 5: those conditions. If you want to win the championship, you
Speaker 5: have to go on the road and play against somebody.
Speaker 5: So as they put together the College Football Playoff, I
Speaker 5: really hope that the home component is a big part
Speaker 5: of it. How what's been your first impression in Nebraska.
Speaker 8: I've been blown away. I've been blown you know, in
Speaker 8: this in this world.
Speaker 5: Like I took the job at Baylor, Like I show up,
Speaker 5: there's a camera in my face, and it's like, this
Speaker 5: is Baylor.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, pretty cool. Like get to Carolina, know this
Speaker 3: is Carolina.
Speaker 5: I actually I actually got to go out and check
Speaker 5: out Lincoln and I really thought, like I thought it
Speaker 5: was going to be like the small little town like
Speaker 5: still Water, Oklahoma or something. I got there and the downtown,
Speaker 5: the haymarket, the campus community. Like I've been blown away.
Speaker 5: I had no idea though. I mean, I'm in Mexico,
Speaker 5: I'm at wherever I am. Someone comes up, go Big Red,
Speaker 5: like just.
Speaker 3: The the really.
Speaker 8: Like that, no doubt.
Speaker 1: I went to we were in Arizona and I literally
Speaker 1: had to go to like a bank to sign like
Speaker 1: a document for a loan. And I just brought Will
Speaker 1: with me because we're going somewhere right after. And the
Speaker 1: guy was like at first excited to meet me and
Speaker 1: then saw Will and moved him out of the way
Speaker 1: just to say go Big Red. And it was the
Speaker 1: Will Compton Show for the next twenty five minutes.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: Got me a couple of percentages down on that interest
Speaker 1: right after guy brother, that's my fucking boy right there everywhere.
Speaker 3: Bro, the Nebraska fan base is like second to none.
Speaker 3: That much sounds like a game.
Speaker 2: Obviously I'm biased, but I do think Nebraska's fan base
Speaker 2: is second to none out there.
Speaker 5: No I that that much I've seen, and but I
Speaker 5: just I like the place, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: And I you know, you need to take over a
Speaker 5: new team, you never know what they're gonna be.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 5: This is a really good group of guys too, Like
Speaker 5: they they want to win. And I look back at
Speaker 5: this season, you know it could have gone any which way.
Speaker 5: You guys have been in teams where you know things
Speaker 5: don't go the way you want them. They battled, you know,
Speaker 5: and to beat Iowa at the end of the year,
Speaker 5: they showed some grit and some toughness. And there's a
Speaker 5: lot of guys there that really really love Nebraska. So
Speaker 5: I'm anxious to get started for them, do the best
Speaker 5: I can for them.
Speaker 3: What do you feel like, did it for you?
Speaker 2: Like if you take out the the fluff of saying
Speaker 2: like all the right things, like you got leaving Carolina,
Speaker 2: getting fired in Carolina, getting fired because it's good because
Speaker 2: I was sitting there like, should I say got fired
Speaker 2: from Carolina?
Speaker 1: That's You've opened up a whole lot of doors for
Speaker 1: us in this interview.
Speaker 5: Oh, I mean I got fired, like it is what
Speaker 5: it is like, especially in that league. But it's been
Speaker 5: so I'll say this, it's been so good for me.
Speaker 5: When I'm talking, I'm talking to recruits and I me
Speaker 5: even talking to the guys in this team. They're like, Coach,
Speaker 5: I've been through this, or you know, I just transferred
Speaker 5: because of this. I'm like, bro, I was just the
Speaker 5: same thing, same thing just happened to me. That's happening
Speaker 5: to you, like you know so often as a coach,
Speaker 5: like the coach and then the player like like to me,
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm on the same level with them
Speaker 5: because I just went through I went through elite adversity.
Speaker 5: Not many head coaches go through adversity because once you
Speaker 5: get fired, you usually out of it. I was just
Speaker 5: able to get fired and then two months later find
Speaker 5: a job that fit me. So like I feel like
Speaker 5: I'm on a whole I'm so much better for having
Speaker 5: been through it, not not having the chance of coaching.
Speaker 3: I felt that was really cool.
Speaker 5: But to get fired and to be made fun of
Speaker 5: and to be a meme and all that stuff like
Speaker 5: that that either breaks you or turns you into something
Speaker 5: like supernatural.
Speaker 8: Like I'm not saying I'm supernatural, but I'm.
Speaker 3: Working hard Internet right now. It fires me up.
Speaker 8: Oh, it's just it's been really good for me to
Speaker 8: go through that.
Speaker 2: When you say elite adversity, and people would sit back
Speaker 2: and in the comments or anything else, talk about relate to. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's real tough going through that adversity with
Speaker 2: a buyout that you have a lot of coaches when
Speaker 2: they get fired, they get bought out Scott for literally
Speaker 2: everybody when.
Speaker 3: Bo got fired. But big Bio, there's big buyouts for
Speaker 3: coaches when they get fired.
Speaker 2: Explain the adversity you're talking about a little bit more
Speaker 2: because a lot of a lot of people do. It's
Speaker 2: like you do get fired, but there's a nice bag
Speaker 2: still sitting there for you.
Speaker 3: That does happen.
Speaker 5: No, I just mean more like, yeah, you know it's
Speaker 5: it's it's the money's the money, right, and the money's ridiculus.
Speaker 5: Shouldn't shouldn't be this much money to coach. But the
Speaker 5: market's the market, and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 5: say no, right right. I just think it's you know,
Speaker 5: it's your kids, it's your family, Like, uh, you know,
Speaker 5: people have a tendency. I think we all kind of
Speaker 5: look at athletes as like even me as a coach,
Speaker 5: like you look at athletes as you know, just this entity.
Speaker 5: You guys are people, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 5: your people. You look at coaches and you see them
Speaker 5: as like this person we're just gonna criticize. But there
Speaker 5: were people, right and so like for me, like walking
Speaker 5: out of a stadium and put my arm around my
Speaker 5: son and you know, they just had fifty thousand people
Speaker 5: chanting for his dad.
Speaker 3: To get fired.
Speaker 8: Like that ain't fun. They had every right to do it.
Speaker 8: I got no issue with it.
Speaker 5: You try to teach lessons, but like you go through
Speaker 5: all that, your daughters come home and she's like we
Speaker 5: have to move again, Like that's real. And I'll never
Speaker 5: forget brad children. He has no coach. Childress was a vikings.
Speaker 5: He called me, texted me, didn't even I don't even
Speaker 5: know him. Yeah, he said, Matt, You'll be so much
Speaker 5: better of a coach for having gone through this, cause,
Speaker 5: you know, part of my job I have to fire coaches.
Speaker 3: I have to. I've had to fire players if it
Speaker 3: had to cut players.
Speaker 5: And when you go through it and you see what
Speaker 5: it feels like, the empathy, the how public it is,
Speaker 5: I just think that's that part of the probly, the
Speaker 5: public part of it. We're like you walk into the
Speaker 5: grocery storeft doors and people look like you like you're
Speaker 5: dead man walking, and it's like they didn't kill me.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm still here. I'm still alive. So that part,
Speaker 5: maybe just as a dad, is hard. But now to
Speaker 5: your point, you make great money. It's all part of it,
Speaker 5: Like this is the life I've chosen. It's like the mafia,
Speaker 5: like I chose to be a coach. The highs and
Speaker 5: lows of it, but you go through some The diversity's
Speaker 5: pretty tough for your kids when you know you're sitting
Speaker 5: there like, oh, I hope they're not reading this. I
Speaker 5: hope they're not reading that. Usually they are so old,
Speaker 5: are your kids? I had an eighteen year old son. Yeah,
Speaker 5: everything when he came out he's like, he's like dad, Dad,
Speaker 5: Stephen A.
Speaker 8: Smith is going in on you.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, no, it is what it is, buddy.
Speaker 5: But but nine and seven year old daughters, and they're
Speaker 5: the ones, you know, my son kind of knows that
Speaker 5: my daughter's I kind of when my son was I
Speaker 5: don't know, maybe nine or ten, I was coaching at Temple.
Speaker 5: I was an assistant coach at the time, and Andy
Speaker 5: Reid was kind of coming to the end in Philly.
Speaker 5: We went to a game and the Patriots got up
Speaker 5: on the Eagles, and the whole crowd started chanting fire Andy.
Speaker 5: And so my son sitting there, he's eight or nine,
Speaker 5: he's going fire.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no.
Speaker 5: When I started channing to fire me, I'm like, pretty
Speaker 5: good company, buddy, And hey reads he's the goat. So yeah,
Speaker 5: but I got a cool family. Eighteen nine and seven. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's awesome, dude.
Speaker 2: As a very new parent, Taylor, obviously he's a he's
Speaker 2: a dad of two five.
Speaker 3: And five and two five and two. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hearing you talk about your son being eighteen and seeing
Speaker 2: absolutely everything, I'm more so asking like, what is that
Speaker 2: mindset for you? When you know he's reading and seeing
Speaker 2: all this stuff, and he's either approaching you like, oh,
Speaker 2: I wonder how my dad's gonna respond. How important for
Speaker 2: you is it to like respond in the correct way,
Speaker 2: to show a lesson in those moments, because I feel like,
Speaker 2: even though he's seen any he's probably feeling like.
Speaker 3: Fuck, man, I wish he wasn't blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: But then he goes in and sees the way you
Speaker 2: respond and it kind of rubs off on him, like, man,
Speaker 2: he's kinda he's responding this a way I probably wouldn't
Speaker 2: respond that way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean at some point in his life.
Speaker 5: And I think as parents, the mistake we sometimes make
Speaker 5: is we try to protect our kids for everything. No,
Speaker 5: we can't protect them because it's coming no matter what.
Speaker 5: Like if you protect them till they're eighteen, the adversity
Speaker 5: or the crack that they have in their lives comes
Speaker 5: when they're thirty, when they're forty, So it's about just
Speaker 5: teaching them how to respond to it. And I think
Speaker 5: for me, like, if I've done one thing, well, I
Speaker 5: hope that after every game I've ever coached, win or lose.
Speaker 5: When I've been I've been coach of the Year and
Speaker 5: I've been fired, Yeah, like be the same guy, you know,
Speaker 5: like come home after the game and don't take it
Speaker 5: out on your kids, don't take it out on your life.
Speaker 5: Don't don't know and talk to me like if I
Speaker 5: say that my true per like I love football is
Speaker 5: my passion. My purpose in life, I think is to
Speaker 5: be a great man, a great husband.
Speaker 3: Great father.
Speaker 5: So if I say that, I got to live up
Speaker 5: to that, and I have to live up to it
Speaker 5: in the hardest of moments, like the day after I
Speaker 5: got fired, Like did I, you know, did I take
Speaker 5: my kids to school or did I sit home and
Speaker 5: feel sorry for myself? Like let them see what it
Speaker 5: means to truly be a man, to truly be the
Speaker 5: person you say you are in the hardest of times.
Speaker 8: And so that's that's what I try to do.
Speaker 5: And I tried to lean into it, and I try
Speaker 5: to have the conversations with my son because you know,
Speaker 5: when I was at tempolet I remember we beat Penn State,
Speaker 5: we ranked walking down the street, he was younger and
Speaker 5: someone was like, coach, Rul, I love you, and I'd
Speaker 5: always say to him is that real, and say, wow,
Speaker 5: didn't you love that?
Speaker 8: So it's not real. Is that real? It's not real.
Speaker 5: What's real to me is that my players say, you know,
Speaker 5: coach did the best he could for me. My coaches
Speaker 5: say that, and my family says that. And if I
Speaker 5: teach that to my kids, you know, I don't want
Speaker 5: my kids growing up thinking the world, you know, how
Speaker 5: the world sees them as who they really are. Who
Speaker 5: they really are is what they do when no one's watching,
Speaker 5: you know, Like I got my Twitter game. I'm trying
Speaker 5: to perfect my Twitter game. It's not very good, but
Speaker 5: I'm trying right now. That's but that's not who I am.
Speaker 5: It's just something fun that I do. Like who am
Speaker 5: I in my darkest of moments, my toughest of moments?
Speaker 8: And then who? Who are the people in your lives
Speaker 8: or show up in those moments?
Speaker 5: There was you know, think about this in the NFL
Speaker 5: there were there were players on the Panthers who drove
Speaker 5: to my house just to check in on me and
Speaker 5: my family. That's all like like, that's like it's so
Speaker 5: like it didn't work out for me, but I know
Speaker 5: I had some sort of an impact at least on somebody.
Speaker 5: It wasn't perfect, but if they see that, if my
Speaker 5: kids see that, then hopefully they live a life and
Speaker 5: your kids live a life where it's like, you know what,
Speaker 5: we're gonna have adversity.
Speaker 8: How do we handle it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're when you're a head coach of a team.
Speaker 1: Now on the other side, you have to actually go
Speaker 1: on fire these guys and your son being eighteen years old.
Speaker 1: Has your son ever stepped in and been like, hey,
Speaker 1: I love this person or I love or why would.
Speaker 3: You do that player?
Speaker 1: Like a player, Like if you had if you had
Speaker 1: to cut a player, and like your son was like
Speaker 1: a big fan of was I'm sure he would come
Speaker 1: to the practices and meet these guys, and as all
Speaker 1: kids are, they kind of get drawn to one or
Speaker 1: two players and sometimes you have this ta goodbye to
Speaker 1: those one or two players, Like how do you handle
Speaker 1: that with your son?
Speaker 5: Really hard And honestly, if you have a if there
Speaker 5: was a drawback for me as a pro coach, is
Speaker 5: that I really struggled with that, Like after being a
Speaker 5: college coach for a long time, like I was used
Speaker 5: to like, you know, when you're a coach, you can
Speaker 5: you're kind of you're kind of taking this path, but
Speaker 5: you see where the end could be you see the
Speaker 5: potential in somebody, like, hey, in three or four years,
Speaker 5: so I'm gonna pour into that person.
Speaker 8: Knowing I get in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Man, I was like, it's Saturday after a walkthrough and
Speaker 5: they want GM walks down like, hey, we got to
Speaker 5: make a roster move.
Speaker 8: Who do you want to get rid of? And it's like,
Speaker 8: oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Well they phrased it to you like that.
Speaker 1: They usually don't is it sorry, I hate to cut
Speaker 1: you off, But if a GM walks down, he's like,
Speaker 1: we had to cut a guy.
Speaker 3: Who do you want to who do you want to cut?
Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes it's like, hey, we need to make a
Speaker 5: move here is it this guy or this guy?
Speaker 3: How do you see it?
Speaker 5: Or we got to you know, sometimes they're like hey,
Speaker 5: let's get you know, every place is probably different, but
Speaker 5: you know, I work for some great gms and they
Speaker 5: always wanted to like, hey, Matt, how do I work?
Speaker 5: You know, let's work together. But I I just had
Speaker 5: a hard time with that relationship part of it, cause
Speaker 5: it's like there's always this wallet between you and the
Speaker 5: player because when you walk down the hallway, they're like, hey,
Speaker 5: that's the guy that's eventually gonna cut me, and it's
Speaker 5: gonna come to an end at some point. You know,
Speaker 5: I had the unique perspectives of a couple guys I
Speaker 5: had coached in college were playing for me in the NFL.
Speaker 5: So I had this one relationship with them as our
Speaker 5: college coach as being like when they look back Ianidis,
Speaker 5: and I taught me more than I'm preparing to be
Speaker 5: a really good college coach, because Matt taught me a
Speaker 5: lot after having played for me in college and then
Speaker 5: gone through being in the NFL for seven years, and
Speaker 5: he trusted me like him and I would sit there
Speaker 5: and just kind of talk, and he would talk.
Speaker 3: To me about what it felt like perspective.
Speaker 8: He's awesome, and he said things to me that changed
Speaker 8: my coaching style. Like I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't take into account because I can just not
Speaker 5: look at my Twitter. I don't take into account what
Speaker 5: it's like for a twenty four year old guy. Like
Speaker 5: one of the things I think's wrong with the NFL
Speaker 5: is every play is graded, like every play is greated
Speaker 5: by someone else, and so like you know, oh my
Speaker 5: good goodness. And so I'm not talking about anyone. I
Speaker 5: want to get myself crust on this whatever, but like
Speaker 5: guys are coming off the game and it's like, you know,
Speaker 5: the world is telling them whether they played what good
Speaker 5: or they played.
Speaker 8: Bad, and no one really knows.
Speaker 5: Like maybe when I could grade the film, we're two coaches,
Speaker 5: we might disagree. So the amount of pressure, the amount
Speaker 5: of stress and anxiety on these guys is overwhelming. And
Speaker 5: you know, the locker room and the coaching staff, it
Speaker 5: has to be a safe player. You have to come
Speaker 5: in and you know we can coach you. But you know, Matt,
Speaker 5: Matt would Matt did a great job of teaching me, Like, hey, Matt, Matt,
Speaker 5: these guys are these guys.
Speaker 3: Are a lot of pressure.
Speaker 5: They're under a lot of pressure social media wise, a
Speaker 5: lot of pressure like with their families. Like let's let's
Speaker 5: let's build a space where we can coach them hard,
Speaker 5: but we can also we can also coach them the
Speaker 5: right way, you know. And so I think, as I
Speaker 5: come back to college, I'm seeing the same thing, man,
Speaker 5: Like everything these guys do, it's it's especially you know
Speaker 5: in major college football, it's it's seen. And so wanted
Speaker 5: to make sure it's a place where we push them
Speaker 5: but also kind of a safe space as well, where
Speaker 5: you can make a mistake and know that you're still
Speaker 5: cared about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, besides the cutting part, it seems like college is
Speaker 1: much more ruthless. The fan base is go way harder,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know how it is at Nebraska, but
Speaker 1: Michigan will skin you alive if you they think you
Speaker 1: had a bad game or something like that. And that
Speaker 1: is that is tough when you're a college player. And
Speaker 1: I feel like the coaching staffs too well, Like in
Speaker 1: the wintertime that you start doing those six am morning workouts,
Speaker 1: guys are killing you. And I feel like just the
Speaker 1: process of college is much harder than process of the NFL.
Speaker 1: The games are obviously more difficult in the NFL, but
Speaker 1: it is a long time to be around those kids.
Speaker 3: He's around them all the time.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it changes now because and I
Speaker 1: I had guys from Michigan say, hey, I'm off the
Speaker 1: whole month of March. I'm thinking to myself, we never
Speaker 1: had a month off. Did you ever a month off?
Speaker 3: I think it was like May, not like a month.
Speaker 3: We'd have three weeks off. Oh shit, I never had
Speaker 3: that what they call like fifth semester in between like
Speaker 3: the end of the spring and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yah, yeah, Oh I never had anything like that
Speaker 2: in the spring ball until you start summer workouts, there's
Speaker 2: always like a three week thinkuse. So some guys can
Speaker 2: go back to class and they got to take like
Speaker 2: three or four hours of one class per day just
Speaker 2: to get that credit. Some guys wouldn't have to do it.
Speaker 2: Oh they from your home with a workout program for
Speaker 2: like three weeks.
Speaker 1: You missed out.
Speaker 3: I missed out big time.
Speaker 1: I was in school always stooped you bro, Hey, you
Speaker 1: were in school always you know? Yeah, them grades weren't
Speaker 1: the best. I was the king of two point zero.
Speaker 1: I made a very a plan, a choice, and that
Speaker 1: is it when I got to college. But it is
Speaker 1: I feel like you're dealing with with different maturity levels
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 3: I mean, the kids are eighteen years old.
Speaker 1: You're basically like you have to do a gudget of
Speaker 1: a good job of implementing the offense defens of special teams.
Speaker 1: But you're also your job is on the line with
Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty two year olds. Like does that add
Speaker 1: a level of stress to you or is it more
Speaker 1: of like, hey, we get to mold in a certain
Speaker 1: way as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think I think for me like being in the
Speaker 5: NFL and seeing guys every week that I had coached
Speaker 5: playing on other teams. I think having a chance to
Speaker 5: coach some of them, and then after you get fired,
Speaker 5: like those guys reaching out to you, like you know,
Speaker 5: I've always said, you know, my sort of my core
Speaker 5: philosophy is I want every player that plays for us
Speaker 5: to look back and say, like, you know what, playing
Speaker 5: for them made my life a little bit better, whether
Speaker 5: it's you know what, I've got to play in the NFL,
Speaker 5: I got a great degree. They taught me something and
Speaker 5: so sometimes when you go through that, like sometimes you
Speaker 5: don't know how people feel about you till you're dead.
Speaker 5: When you get fired publicly like I did, a lot
Speaker 5: of guys reached out to me and it meant a
Speaker 5: lot to me, and I was like, you know, I
Speaker 5: crave that.
Speaker 3: I want to get back to that.
Speaker 5: I think the good thing for me coming to Nebraska
Speaker 5: is it's my fourth head coaching job in eleven years.
Speaker 5: Like the mistake I made early on, I'm almost embarrassed
Speaker 5: about things I did at Temple, but I've learned. I've
Speaker 5: I've mastered kind of that craft of working with those
Speaker 5: guys over time, I hope, and so like I want
Speaker 5: to go there, I want to push them, I want
Speaker 5: to coach them. I'm old school, like we're gonna we're
Speaker 5: gonna practice hard, and I'm gonna coach them hard. But
Speaker 5: that doesn't ever have to that doesn't I can demand them.
Speaker 5: I don't have to demean any anyone.
Speaker 3: I don't have to.
Speaker 5: If I look back, even in my time in Carolina,
Speaker 5: I feel like there's only one time that I truly regret.
Speaker 5: But really, I don't think I've ever ever threw anybody
Speaker 5: under the bus. Like I don't think I ever said like, well,
Speaker 5: we just don't have this, or we don't have that,
Speaker 5: or it's this guy's fault. I tried to always made
Speaker 5: for some awkward moments because sometimes I was probably trying
Speaker 5: to overprotect the guys.
Speaker 3: But I always feel like that's my job.
Speaker 5: Is that, Like you want to be a leader, get
Speaker 5: out front man, like take the bullets for your guys,
Speaker 5: and we'll hope that your guys respond for you. And
Speaker 5: so I think if I do that, I'll have a
Speaker 5: chance to affect some of those guys' lives. And as
Speaker 5: I built my staff, I built a staff that I trust,
Speaker 5: like I have fourteen former players working for me in
Speaker 5: some way. I got three guys from the play for
Speaker 5: me at the Panthers, even like working in different areas.
Speaker 5: I got guys from Carol, from Carolin, I got guys
Speaker 5: from Temple, from Baylor. I'm not hiring them because they're
Speaker 5: my friends. I'm hiring them because I trust them, like
Speaker 5: they're gonna work hard for the players, and I think
Speaker 5: that's what the guys need. They need people they can
Speaker 5: look up to and they can help them through the
Speaker 5: trials and tribulations of being eighteen nineteen twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: That one time he regret in Carolina. Are you free
Speaker 1: to talk about that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: No, absolutely. You know, Cam Newton's one of my favorite
Speaker 5: favorite players I've ever been around, Like the brutal honesty
Speaker 5: that he would share with me, the conversations.
Speaker 8: Every Tuesday, him and I would meet for an hour.
Speaker 5: We played Buffalo and we called a play and it
Speaker 5: was four fourth and one. We went for it and
Speaker 5: Cam threw the bubble out. There was incomplete and after
Speaker 5: the game they asked me, like what happened? And I
Speaker 5: wasn't even thinking about it with Cam, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. I was thinking about it more like frustrated
Speaker 5: with us as coaches that we had that, you know,
Speaker 5: and so we're thinking that's going to be a quarterback run,
Speaker 5: get a yard.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: They rotated the safeties, which changed the mic point. So
Speaker 5: Cam knew he was in trouble. So Cam's such a
Speaker 5: high level thinker, he knew it. So he threw the
Speaker 5: bubble out. So when they asked me afterwards, I said,
Speaker 5: we didn't call that to throw the bubble, Like I
Speaker 5: didn't want to throw a bubble there. Right next time,
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my gosh. You know, sometimes they beat
Speaker 5: up coaches, you know, they beat up Zach Wilson after
Speaker 5: the Jets game. They beat up coaches with I wish
Speaker 5: people knew what it felt like to go have your
Speaker 5: adrenaline at like two hundred and have your heart rate
Speaker 5: of like one ninety, and you know, you go walking
Speaker 5: in and some media person's like, here's this. They're gona
Speaker 5: ask you this, They're gonna ask you this, They're gonna
Speaker 5: ask you this, and you have about eight seconds to
Speaker 5: get ready for the postgame press conference. And then that's
Speaker 5: one time for me, it just got away from me,
Speaker 5: and I didn't mean I apologize to Cam.
Speaker 8: He was great, I mean, ultimate professional's coach.
Speaker 5: I got it, but I just hated it, you know,
Speaker 5: because it came across like I was saying that about him,
Speaker 5: and there's no guy like that guy was there at
Speaker 5: eleven o'clock at night, and that guy was there at
Speaker 5: five o'clock in the morning, like Cam Newton was a grinder.
Speaker 5: And so that's the last thing I wanted to do
Speaker 5: was put him on the spot. And it just came
Speaker 5: out that way. And you know, it's hard to put
Speaker 5: the toothpaste back in, yeah, and the bottle after that.
Speaker 5: But you know, it's just sometimes I let my frustration
Speaker 5: get me one time because it was mad because I
Speaker 5: thought we had a chance and uh, you know, we
Speaker 5: just made a bad play.
Speaker 3: Call probably damn dud. Why don't you think it worked
Speaker 3: out in Carolina for me? Yeah?
Speaker 5: You know, I think I think I took over kind
Speaker 5: of a tough situation. Like you know, there's a lot
Speaker 5: of Hall of famers on that team that were that
Speaker 5: were leaving, and you know, right off the bat, you know,
Speaker 5: you know, they end up letting Cam go and then
Speaker 5: Luke retired, and so I think if I look back,
Speaker 5: I would have just tried to do it faster. You know,
Speaker 5: I would have tried to. I was trying to be
Speaker 5: a little more aggressive in free agency. I had tried
Speaker 5: a big trade, but that wasn't really the plan. I'm
Speaker 5: kind of a loyal guy. Like if you tell me,
Speaker 5: like this is how I want to do it, then
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do it that way, and I'm gonna take
Speaker 5: responsibility for it, even if maybe it's not always what
Speaker 5: I agree with. Like if we say, hey, we're doing
Speaker 5: it this way, we'll do it. So I just you know,
Speaker 5: I never got the offense going. Like we we went
Speaker 5: from like the worst defense in the league the first year,
Speaker 5: we were second. The second year, I thought the defense
Speaker 5: was coming on. And even this year, like I was
Speaker 5: proud the way they played down the stretch, like they
Speaker 5: played well enough and Steve did a great job.
Speaker 8: But I knew that team.
Speaker 5: Like if you go back to my press conferences earlier,
Speaker 5: I said, guys, we just signed Baker, like just give
Speaker 5: him a chance that we have to play, Like you know,
Speaker 5: a lot of teams start off one and three, one
Speaker 5: and four and they kind of make a run. You
Speaker 5: saw that this year with some teams. So I just
Speaker 5: thought once they won a couple games, the pressure would
Speaker 5: come off. I thought we got past the forty nine ers,
Speaker 5: because that's a pretty good team. But you know, it
Speaker 5: wasn't for me, And it was one of those things
Speaker 5: where had picked up so much steam, Like the fan
Speaker 5: base was pretty agitated about me at the end of
Speaker 5: last year. They were agitated about me, and once that happens,
Speaker 5: it's it's really hard to stop it. So yeah, there's
Speaker 5: all kinds of things like what if we'd have done this,
Speaker 5: what if we would have done that. But I kind
Speaker 5: of tried to do in the NFL what I did
Speaker 5: in college, which was like a slow build to have
Speaker 5: a really good team. Whoever gets that job, I think
Speaker 5: they have a pretty good roster. I mean, you got
Speaker 5: Brian Burns, DJ Moore, Derreck Brown, the offensive lines.
Speaker 8: You was drafted Dicky last year.
Speaker 5: You know, of course the Corbett towards ACL, but Taylor
Speaker 5: Moten's on a long term contract. I think like twenty
Speaker 5: to twenty two starters are under contract next year. So
Speaker 5: I think it's a job that people should take because
Speaker 5: they'll they'll have they have a pretty good roster there
Speaker 5: and a good culture in that locker room.
Speaker 1: When you when you first get in there and you
Speaker 1: said be more aggressive in free agency, bigger trade, Like
Speaker 1: how much of influence did you have in those things
Speaker 1: with the GM, Like like, I don't know how things
Speaker 1: work outside of the Titans. I was only with the Titans,
Speaker 1: but it seemed like John Robinson like he was running
Speaker 1: the show and that's and that's what it was.
Speaker 3: And I don't I don't know how it usually worked
Speaker 3: with a head coach at a GM.
Speaker 5: I think, you know, so I had I was the
Speaker 5: head coach basically was there a head coach for two
Speaker 5: years in five games? I had two GMS in two years,
Speaker 5: so you know, obviously you have one and then you're
Speaker 5: trying to work with another one. I had Barty Hernie,
Speaker 5: who's awesome, and the Scott Fitters as classy a dude
Speaker 5: as there is. There's not one like major trade we
Speaker 5: could have had that we didn't do, Like, oh, we
Speaker 5: should have built the triggered on it. More like looking back,
Speaker 5: it's like, hey, if you only have two years, man,
Speaker 5: let's let's go.
Speaker 3: Let's go shoot our shit up. Yeah, you could have
Speaker 3: been under the influence that you had time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like well yeah, so like for me, if you say, like, hey,
Speaker 5: let's I just want this kind of built over three
Speaker 5: or four years.
Speaker 3: We'll build over three or four years. If it's two years,
Speaker 3: it's two years.
Speaker 5: And so I would have probably just probably maybe made
Speaker 5: a trade, maybe traded up for a quarterback.
Speaker 8: Or something like that.
Speaker 5: You go back over. We tried a lot of things
Speaker 5: at quarterback. You know, we traded for Sam. I was
Speaker 5: happy to see the way Sam played down the stretch,
Speaker 5: you know. We traded for Baker. We we brought Cam back,
Speaker 5: you know. So we tried a bunch of different things.
Speaker 5: So you know, it just it just wasn't Maybe it
Speaker 5: wasn't meant to be. Wasn't the right time, maybe the
Speaker 5: right place. But I like the players there, I mean
Speaker 5: I really do. Like I I turned on the forty
Speaker 5: nine ers. I love watching Christian run wild, like I
Speaker 5: love watching the Panthers play, Like I could watch Frankie
Speaker 5: Lolul who play all day long. Man, he's one of
Speaker 5: the best playing football players I've ever been around. So
Speaker 5: I had good memories from it, but just just didn't
Speaker 5: quite work out the way I thought it would.
Speaker 3: Was It like seeing Christian McCaffrey go to the Niners.
Speaker 5: So so you know, it's funny. He he got trade.
Speaker 5: I texted him right away, like because I got fired.
Speaker 5: And also in a week later he gets traded and yeah,
Speaker 5: and he was like, hey, he said, he said, he said, hey,
Speaker 5: he called me.
Speaker 8: He's like, I'll call you right back, So don't call me.
Speaker 8: You got enough going on.
Speaker 5: So just if you ever need me, call me. And
Speaker 5: he's like, you know, he's such a great tude man.
Speaker 5: So the next day, my wife and son are at
Speaker 5: the airport. They're gett ready to fly up to Penn State.
Speaker 5: It's my alma mater and there's a white out and
Speaker 5: the ad there's a good friend of mine. So we
Speaker 5: just wanted to my son, you know, we wanted to
Speaker 5: go to college, visit, just get them away. So they're
Speaker 5: at the airport. I'm gonna babysit the nine and seven
Speaker 5: year old. I'm daddy for the weekend. And they were
Speaker 5: like the FBO and Christian comes walking in and my
Speaker 5: son sees him. Christians just got trade and he's getting
Speaker 5: ready to go to fly to San Francisco. The turns
Speaker 5: makes the left, walks over, hugs my wife and I
Speaker 5: was just my wife is one of those wives like
Speaker 5: even in the NFL. Just even in the NFL, she
Speaker 5: would have a different position group over every Thursday during
Speaker 5: the season. Never managed to not like hey, we need you,
Speaker 5: like DJ Moore and Robbie Anderson. It was like twelve
Speaker 5: fifteen at night, She's like, guys.
Speaker 3: You have to leave. It's time to go.
Speaker 5: Like those guys would come over, we would kick it
Speaker 5: and hang out. So she felt part of the team.
Speaker 5: And so I get fired. She doesn't get to see anyone,
Speaker 5: Like there's no closure for her either.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So so Christian walks up, hugs her, hugs Bryant and
Speaker 5: says something I'll keep you know, just said some really
Speaker 5: positive things to them. They kind of needed that, and
Speaker 5: that's that's that's who he is.
Speaker 3: Man. So like when I see what he's.
Speaker 5: Doing right now, I'm fired up. I'm fired up for
Speaker 5: him because he deserves this opportunity. You know, he got
Speaker 5: run a lot last year at Stanford, his first couple
Speaker 5: of years in the NFL, Like his percentage of carries,
Speaker 5: I mean was elite. So unfortunately during my time, you know,
Speaker 5: he had some injuries. I feel like though his body rested,
Speaker 5: and you know, he didn't make all he didn't make
Speaker 5: the Pro Bowl this year.
Speaker 3: I told himself, well, just settle for being this Super
Speaker 3: Bowl MVP. How about that? I think he could.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and my first overall draft pick in the Fantasy nice. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was still late.
Speaker 1: When we played the Panthers, it was always like that's
Speaker 1: you stop him, you win the game. Like he was
Speaker 1: like a ridiculous percentage of touches like running and catching
Speaker 1: the ball.
Speaker 3: Guy's elite, truly elite. He is what.
Speaker 2: Being the head coach there and then seeing him get
Speaker 2: traded is it kind of like what are what?
Speaker 3: Why would the Panthers trade him away? He's the best player. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm afraid to touch.
Speaker 1: But I think I just think that all the question
Speaker 1: because he is. Yeah, because once they fired you and
Speaker 1: they got rid of him, with everyone's like, yo, what
Speaker 1: are the Panthers doing?
Speaker 8: And I think that's a lot of credit to the
Speaker 8: guys in the lock him because they made a run.
Speaker 8: Like I told him that. When I got fired, I
Speaker 8: went to you know, I went and talked to the
Speaker 8: team after I got fired.
Speaker 3: And it's just not happened.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I you know, and mister Tepper gave me
Speaker 5: the opportunity, which I appreciate, and I told and I
Speaker 5: and I went in. I talked about the game first,
Speaker 5: like I went in like like they didn't know I
Speaker 5: was fired yet. I went and I said, here, here's
Speaker 5: what I see from the game, Here's how I think
Speaker 5: it affects us. And then I said, hey, I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna be your coach anymore. I said, but you know,
Speaker 5: all I ask every guy every year is like, hey,
Speaker 5: in the offseason, handle your free agency, handle your business,
Speaker 5: handle your money, do what's right for you. But once
Speaker 5: we sign up for the year, just just just just
Speaker 5: ride it out to the end of the year full board.
Speaker 5: So I was here for you guys the whole year.
Speaker 5: I'm being asked to leave, but that doesn't mean I'm
Speaker 5: not in it with you. Like I hope you guys win,
Speaker 5: and I expected you guys to win, because when I
Speaker 5: started the year off, I looked at Tampa Bay, and
Speaker 5: I looked at Atlanta the first couple of games, and
Speaker 5: I looked at New Orleans. I said, guys, we're gonna
Speaker 5: have a chance to beat all these teams. Now, I
Speaker 5: don't know about the rest of you know, FC West
Speaker 5: and all that, how they're but I thought we had
Speaker 5: a chance. And so they came down the stretch. Credit
Speaker 5: to Steve Wilkes. He's a really good coach. Kept them
Speaker 5: together and the guys did a good job and they
Speaker 5: had a chance at the end to go win it.
Speaker 5: So that's good experience for them because they might have
Speaker 5: a chance to make a run next year if they
Speaker 5: can keep that, you know, team together.
Speaker 1: Steve took over his intermhead coach at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so they're still trying to find a head coach now.
Speaker 1: They are him, Yeah, he is he a candidate or no.
Speaker 3: I don't They don't, They don't know.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure he Usually they say like hey, this Internet,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be blah blah ball. We're gonna start
Speaker 1: interviewing these guys and.
Speaker 3: Stuff like that.
Speaker 2: You speak on coach Wolkes for a second, just because
Speaker 2: I know, back when I was in Washington, I feel
Speaker 2: like he's been a name that's been in the circuit
Speaker 2: for years now.
Speaker 3: On being a head coaching candidate.
Speaker 5: Well, he went out to Arizona, it was the head
Speaker 5: coach in Arizona and just kind of in that transition, right,
Speaker 5: and like the same thing I talk about sometimes you
Speaker 5: just kind of get caught up you're you're a great
Speaker 5: head coach. It's just the right the wrong place at
Speaker 5: the wrong time. I think Steve right around him After
Speaker 5: about a month, I remember saying to him like, Hey,
Speaker 5: you know, I don't know what will happen here, but
Speaker 5: if I can ever help you in this, because I
Speaker 5: just could tell his leadership and his command and so
Speaker 5: like they're gonna go through the head coach and searches
Speaker 5: right now, and they just went through it in college.
Speaker 5: You're gonna go through the NFL and they're gonna talk
Speaker 5: about all these really cool coordinators and to me that
Speaker 5: you know, being a head coach of being the coordinators
Speaker 5: about like you know, you're both doctors, but you know
Speaker 5: one's a one's a you know, cardiologist, and ones an oncologist.
Speaker 3: Like like it's completely different.
Speaker 5: Like the things you deal with as a head coach,
Speaker 5: especially in the NFL, you're dealing with the GM, you're
Speaker 5: dealing with the owner, you're dealing with you know, player issues,
Speaker 5: you're dealing you're dealing with all these things. You're dealing
Speaker 5: with game management, you're dealing with situational football. Steve, I
Speaker 5: think is great at all those things. I think he's
Speaker 5: an elite head coach. He has experience. You know a
Speaker 5: lot of times you get fired as head coach and
Speaker 5: they don't bring you back. Well, you got all. You
Speaker 5: have experience. You know you've seen what worked, you've seen
Speaker 5: what doesn't work. And the coaches I look up to
Speaker 5: the most Andy Reid, the Bill Belichicks, those guys, by
Speaker 5: the way, those are the first guys that reach out
Speaker 5: to a guy like me when I get fired.
Speaker 3: Those are the first guys. That's awesome.
Speaker 8: I mean, like they're classiest, but like they went somewhere.
Speaker 5: They were head coaches, they went through what I went through,
Speaker 5: and they're better at best days were ahead of them.
Speaker 8: So that's why when I came to Nebraska, I was like,
Speaker 8: can we do it here?
Speaker 5: I walked around, I looked around, saw the fan base,
Speaker 5: saw the support, so all everything. I said, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: come here, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to make sure
Speaker 5: my best days are ahead of me, not behind me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, buddy, can I do it here?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I believe he can.
Speaker 1: But if you look at your history as a head coach,
Speaker 1: it's it's a slow burn. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I were at Temple, Were you guys three and nine
Speaker 1: first year. First you were two and ten, two and ten. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but then after after a while you said, you guys
Speaker 1: be Penn State. You guys were ranked right and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So how do you see it going in
Speaker 1: Nebraska the first year? Cause two years ago best three
Speaker 1: and nine team in the in the NCAA argue with that, well, well,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's even arguable anymore.
Speaker 3: People still like to argue it, yeah, because people like
Speaker 3: to punch up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's just yeah, it's factual. And so then
Speaker 1: last year it just didn't go as well as possible.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of turmoil. Obviously, Scott Frosketty fired earlier
Speaker 1: in the year. You guys lose off American soil, it
Speaker 1: does not count. But that's maybe put you in a
Speaker 1: little bit of a spin, right, So now, like you're
Speaker 1: looking at your roster. One of your big time leaders
Speaker 1: was a Garrett Nelson, that's his name goes to the NFL,
Speaker 1: who like, when we spoke to him in spring, he
Speaker 1: was like lived, breathed corn, like he was the example
Speaker 1: of like, yes, black shirt, yeah, black shirts, and so
Speaker 1: who do you I mean, we're not gonna talk about
Speaker 1: your roster, because I don't even know the guys on there,
Speaker 1: and I would never ask you to speak about your guys,
Speaker 1: But how do you see it go your guys? This guys,
Speaker 1: how do you see it going in this first year? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because you got some winnable games the first three games.
Speaker 1: That fourth one is gonna be tough, but that you
Speaker 1: can you have an opportunity to possibly be three and
Speaker 1: l going into the bus and bowl.
Speaker 3: That's you know what I'll say this.
Speaker 5: I always look like I always said to myself, when
Speaker 5: you go to a place, the first thing you have
Speaker 5: to do is established, like the foundations of how do
Speaker 5: we work? So I went to Temple had been I
Speaker 5: had been an assistant coach the year before. I left
Speaker 5: and went one year of the Giants and came right
Speaker 5: back to be the head coach. But we were moving
Speaker 5: up in conference. They were going from the Mac to
Speaker 5: the kind of the biggie slash American as it was
Speaker 5: for me. So there was a there was like a
Speaker 5: we go up in conference something you know hard. So
Speaker 5: we went to high school four and now you're going
Speaker 5: up to five as so like we were playing better competitions.
Speaker 5: The roster had to catch up, so you're two and ten.
Speaker 3: I played.
Speaker 5: I just played all the freshmen. I said, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: play these guys, and then four years were gonna win
Speaker 5: a championship, and we did right. I played the seat
Speaker 5: saying I played the seniors that wanted to do it
Speaker 5: my way, and some of them were awesome. I just
Speaker 5: inserted a lot of the young guys as well. When
Speaker 5: I went to Baylor, there was I think forty five
Speaker 5: scholarship players. We had three offensive linemen. I moved the
Speaker 5: two tight ends. I moved one to center and I
Speaker 5: moved one to left tackle. And so I was coming
Speaker 5: taken over after a scandal, like we were one and eleven.
Speaker 5: I mean, but it was it was hard, but that
Speaker 5: was more about what the out the.
Speaker 3: Experil was more of like a welcome mat in the
Speaker 3: Big twelve. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well time well, and so it's just I was taking
Speaker 5: over a hard place at a hard time. I was
Speaker 5: just so I don't want this to be a slow burn.
Speaker 5: I want to start off because I feel like that
Speaker 5: year for them was last year. And the thing that
Speaker 5: I respect about the team because because this opportunity was
Speaker 5: around for a while and I was just watching games
Speaker 5: and what I respected about Nebraska was the players. They
Speaker 5: had just lost their coach, They had some tough losses
Speaker 5: along the way, but they just kept battling, And like,
Speaker 5: to me, that's half the battle. Like if you can
Speaker 5: get a group of people to commit to playing hard
Speaker 5: and fighting even when you're kind of out of bowl contention.
Speaker 5: Like if you go to Iowa the last game of
Speaker 5: the year and Iowa has to win that to go
Speaker 5: to the Big Ten West and you beat them, there's
Speaker 5: something in that locker.
Speaker 3: Room so solid. It was both that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I don't know, I don't know how good
Speaker 5: we are. I don't only think, but like I just
Speaker 5: know this. I know that we're starting from a place
Speaker 5: of like a big, physical looking group, and I think
Speaker 5: we've done a good job recruiting so far. And you know,
Speaker 5: they change football on me and during my time away. Now,
Speaker 5: like we're already up to like thirty two players that
Speaker 5: we can sign. Like when I got to Bailer, I
Speaker 5: can only sign twenty five twenties. You know, I can
Speaker 5: find a way to sneak somebody, and they're kind of
Speaker 5: some unique rules, but I have more options available to
Speaker 5: me right now, So I'm excited, you know, I I
Speaker 5: just want us to be the kind of a team,
Speaker 5: and sometimes it's hard when you have a fan base
Speaker 5: that's really passionate. I just wanted to be the kind
Speaker 5: of team that's really humble, like, hey, we feel like
Speaker 5: we can win every game. We also know we have
Speaker 5: a chance to lose every game. So let's just let's
Speaker 5: just work worry about today. Like I got guys talking
Speaker 5: to me about the bowl games next year, I'm like, WHOA,
Speaker 5: let's just go to the weight room.
Speaker 3: Guys, Yeah, go to go eat cause I'll be handling that.
Speaker 3: No matter what, you guys are going to a bowl
Speaker 3: next year. No matter what, you guys will be in
Speaker 3: a ball. You're the bust and bawl. Bust and Bawl.
Speaker 3: We trained a bowl so we could be balls.
Speaker 1: So no matter what, you guys will be in a bowl.
Speaker 1: So you talk about bail, you're walking into a situation.
Speaker 1: But if a scandal going on, it was an empty
Speaker 1: roster to say the did your mindset change when you
Speaker 1: walked into Nebraska and you're like, could we do this here?
Speaker 1: Because when you walk into Baylor, I'm sure there's a
Speaker 1: piece of you that's like this is a lot to
Speaker 1: work with Yeah, this is a lot like how am
Speaker 1: I going.
Speaker 3: To make this work?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm curious to why Nebraska? Like, again, you
Speaker 2: come off a head coaching job in the NFL. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you got your once you got fired. It was
Speaker 2: like your name was everywhere for a lot of big
Speaker 2: college jobs, and I'm just curious, like, yeah, why Nebraska?
Speaker 3: What was so enticing about it? Yeah?
Speaker 5: So to go there, I think for me, it's one
Speaker 5: thing to go somewhere and try to take a program
Speaker 5: to someplace they've never been. You know that this is
Speaker 5: getting some a program back to where it has been,
Speaker 5: and that's completely different because you know they have the resources.
Speaker 5: You know, they've been there before, they've seen that rare air.
Speaker 5: And so for me, it's like, Okay, they've done it,
Speaker 5: so we know that. So what are my questions? Well,
Speaker 5: do they have the facilities? Absolutely? Really, a big lesson
Speaker 5: that I've learned is to make sure that I am
Speaker 5: my plan is similar to the plan of the people
Speaker 5: that I'm around. You know what happened in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Like you, sometimes you have different views. And so when
Speaker 5: I talked to the athletic writer Trev Albert, who had
Speaker 5: played there, he believed in the same things I believed in.
Speaker 5: So it's not like I'm trying to convince them, No,
Speaker 5: this is the way to do it.
Speaker 3: Trust me.
Speaker 5: Like He's like, no, Matt, I see exactly what you
Speaker 5: how you feel. Ted Carter, who's the president of the university,
Speaker 5: Like when I talked to him, he was the admiral
Speaker 5: at Navy when they were running, when they were rolling
Speaker 5: in the triple option, and we went down there and
Speaker 5: beat them, so he knew what my teams look like
Speaker 5: at Temple. He was like, Matt, just build that team
Speaker 5: here like that physical. Like I want to run the
Speaker 5: ball and I want to play defense, and that's not
Speaker 5: some fan bases don't really like that. Like some fan
Speaker 5: bases like if you're not going no huddle spread, they
Speaker 5: don't want to come to the games. Nebraska people want
Speaker 5: us to run the football and play defense. They want
Speaker 5: us to dominate the line of scrimmers. They want us
Speaker 5: to be physical, and that's kind of who I've always been.
Speaker 5: So those things all came together. But the biggest question
Speaker 5: I had was can we recruit here? Like can I
Speaker 5: get players here? And I actually looked at Michigan, I
Speaker 5: looked at Ohio, State looked at Penn State and whereas
Speaker 5: maybe maybe fifteen years ago Penn State or Ohio State,
Speaker 5: you know, most of their kids came from that state.
Speaker 5: Everyone's kind of recruited nationally now, right. So I went
Speaker 5: back and said, let's watch the kids. There's some really
Speaker 5: good football players Nebraska. I thought, hey, you know what,
Speaker 5: we can get players. Because if we get good players there,
Speaker 5: we'll coach them, I think, and we'll play hard and
Speaker 5: we'll find a way to win. And I took a shot,
Speaker 5: and my wife knew it the whole time. She's like,
Speaker 5: this is the place for you.
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I've been married for twenty twenty four years,
Speaker 5: twenty going on twenty fi Like, I've learned to listen
Speaker 5: to her.
Speaker 3: She said, this is the place for you.
Speaker 5: This, this is where you fit because she knows the
Speaker 5: way I want to play football. I want to go
Speaker 5: out there and just make it a battle of physical wills.
Speaker 5: And I think that resonates with people in Nebraska.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you got to go hear voice Nebraska doing well.
Speaker 1: So if you're trying to sit down a foundation you wanted,
Speaker 1: this is the way you want to play football. You
Speaker 1: go up in the locker room right, and the old
Speaker 1: line locker room in the Tenesseee Tians. That's speed off
Speaker 1: the ball, physical toughness, like those are foundational pieces. What
Speaker 1: do you what is day one implementation of making sure
Speaker 1: your foundation is set?
Speaker 3: At Nebraska?
Speaker 5: So I I have about four things I believe and
Speaker 5: then I'll talk about I had my first team meeting
Speaker 5: last night, and I'm almos, guys, I don't want cameras
Speaker 5: in be a camera follow me around. I wanted always
Speaker 5: to be the players. But there's there's a there's a
Speaker 5: book called The Greatest Salesman in the World biog Mandino.
Speaker 5: In it, they have ten scrolls and there's one called
Speaker 5: the Scroll mark three. It's I will persist until I succeed.
Speaker 5: And at one point it says, it's just long. You
Speaker 5: know if I read it to the team. I started
Speaker 5: off by reading it to the team. Yeah, And it
Speaker 5: basically says, you know, I am not a sheep. I
Speaker 5: refuse to walk talk. I think like a sheep. The
Speaker 5: slaughterhouse of failure is not my destiny. And it's so
Speaker 5: it's like I am a lion, like so like so.
Speaker 3: Like reading that out loud to me, I want to
Speaker 3: keep hearing this.
Speaker 1: Like I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't do it. I have it on my phone.
Speaker 5: But but that's like my life first, like, and that
Speaker 5: goes back to I said what happened to me?
Speaker 3: When I said happened, I got fired.
Speaker 5: It was like all these things I've been saying to
Speaker 5: players forever, Hey, control what you can control. I have
Speaker 5: this little saying like what's next, Like, Hey, what's whatever happened?
Speaker 3: Good Bye? What's next?
Speaker 1: One.
Speaker 8: I literally had to wake up every morning and.
Speaker 3: Go what's next? Control?
Speaker 5: So I I am so clear minded now, like hey, guys,
Speaker 5: like all we're gonna ask you guys to do not
Speaker 5: be perfect. I'm gonna be perfect. I'm just be a
Speaker 5: lion every day, attack everything in your life. And that's
Speaker 5: really how I see it. So you know our core
Speaker 5: values that we want to be tough, we want to
Speaker 5: be hard working, we want to be competitive. I mean
Speaker 5: I want them to compete at everything they do. I
Speaker 5: want them to work hard, and I want them to
Speaker 5: be tough. I want them to overcome overcome the excuses
Speaker 5: of life and just attack everything in their lives.
Speaker 3: And so if they are.
Speaker 5: Those three things, tough, are working, competitive, then we'll be well,
Speaker 5: we'll build a big physical team that's that sound and
Speaker 5: smart and accountable.
Speaker 1: I'm just so, hey, hey, that was some fire ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like that was from a book though with energy. Like
Speaker 1: some people can just read a book and be like,
Speaker 1: oh that's cool. But the way you said it, Hey,
Speaker 1: the boys are gonna play next year.
Speaker 3: What were when you did come into Nebraska.
Speaker 2: What were some things that you're like, all right, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have to, you know, address these things, Like what
Speaker 2: were some issues coming into Nebraska that you identified that
Speaker 2: you you want to hit head on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think the biggest thing for me is
Speaker 5: making sure that all the all the most up to
Speaker 5: date training and recovery modalities are part of our process,
Speaker 5: you know, like everything from massage work bodywork to cupping
Speaker 5: to scraping to sensory deprivation tanks.
Speaker 3: I really believe in all this stuff.
Speaker 5: I believe that one of the most important jobs for
Speaker 5: me is to make sure my players are as healthy
Speaker 5: as possible and the culture of recovery and regeneration all that,
Speaker 5: like either A, schools have a bunch of stuff but
Speaker 5: guys don't use it, or b they don't have it,
Speaker 5: And so I think, you know, one of the things
Speaker 5: I can do for these guys is really help them
Speaker 5: with that process. Like the reason I had a chance
Speaker 5: to be a head coach in the NFL was because
Speaker 5: I had so many guys in mind that were kind
Speaker 5: of later round drafted guys that went.
Speaker 3: To the NFL that were ready to be pros.
Speaker 5: And you know, anybody can get you to the NFL,
Speaker 5: but who can teach you how to be a pro. Like,
Speaker 5: who can get it to where you get a second contract.
Speaker 8: One of my.
Speaker 5: Goals for my guys is to always make five million
Speaker 5: dollars after the rookie contract. Like that to me is
Speaker 5: a goal, like get through your rookie contract, let's make
Speaker 5: five million more with your second contract, and then then
Speaker 5: after that it's all gravy.
Speaker 8: So I look at it like, how do I invest
Speaker 8: that into them?
Speaker 5: Well, I put all those we have all these resources,
Speaker 5: Let's not spend them on waterfalls for recruiting. Let's spend
Speaker 5: them on things that can help our guys train, let's recover,
Speaker 5: be as healthy as possible. And so that to me
Speaker 5: is something that if we do that at a high level,
Speaker 5: will really help our players because healthy team wins a
Speaker 5: lot more games.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 5: That was one of the biggest things. And I just think,
Speaker 5: you know what, just be in there for the guys,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Like at the end of
Speaker 5: the day, Like, at the end of the day, I
Speaker 5: didn't I don't have to coach.
Speaker 8: Like I had four years left in my contract.
Speaker 5: I could have gone and done like a TV show maybe,
Speaker 5: or play golf or something.
Speaker 3: I'm only coaching because Thailand.
Speaker 1: Whatever you want, Yeah, live your life. That's exactly right.
Speaker 5: So like I'm doing this because I truly feel like
Speaker 5: passionate about Hey, I want to work with young people,
Speaker 5: and I want to do it at a place that
Speaker 5: that that jibes with me, and that's why I found
Speaker 5: it Nebraska. So I think the best thing I can do, man,
Speaker 5: is just really lock in with these guys. Because the
Speaker 5: hardest thing I said it to my the first time
Speaker 5: when I got hired, I say, hey, guys, listen, I
Speaker 5: know you guys. I know you guys didn't choose me,
Speaker 5: because I get that, so but just remember us, I
Speaker 5: chose you. I want to be here with you, guys,
Speaker 5: So I hope you stay. Very few guys going to
Speaker 5: the portal.
Speaker 3: I'm not one of those.
Speaker 8: I didn't walk in say, y'all need to get in
Speaker 8: the portal or changing all this those.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not bringing my own baggage, Louis. Those guys welcome.
Speaker 3: I care about them.
Speaker 5: Those guys care about Nebraska, right, and they're good kids.
Speaker 5: Like my son's eighteen, he's going. All I want for
Speaker 5: my son at eighteen is for him to go off
Speaker 5: and be around good people who care about him. All
Speaker 5: I went, So, shouldn't I do the same thing for
Speaker 5: the guys I'm coaching and recruit and I should be
Speaker 5: a good guy for them.
Speaker 3: If you do that, you win games.
Speaker 5: Like everyone thinks, well, if I get this may stuff,
Speaker 5: If you treat young people right and and give them
Speaker 5: what they need to be successful, you'll be successful as
Speaker 5: a team.
Speaker 3: I believe that.
Speaker 2: I don't mean to put you on the spot with this,
Speaker 2: but ultimately that's what this question is. But a lot
Speaker 2: of recruits and you know it like you sit in houses,
Speaker 2: you sit in these uh you know, you sit in
Speaker 2: living rooms, talk to parents and talk about.
Speaker 3: I chose you.
Speaker 2: What does that mean when you could easily have you know,
Speaker 2: maybe you get another opportunity to go back in the
Speaker 2: NFL after a couple of years. Yeah, or to Penn
Speaker 2: State your alm like, yeah, sure, yeah, Penn State your
Speaker 2: alma monitor. After like a couple of years of dominating
Speaker 2: and winning to big the championships and natties at Nebraska,
Speaker 2: what if those shiny new toys come into your life
Speaker 2: to want to pluck you out and go back to
Speaker 2: the NFL.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of guys like that's the
Speaker 2: whole big thing around the portal, right, It's it's a
Speaker 2: reason why players argue about all the nil stuff and
Speaker 2: everything else. Coaches get these opportunities to come in they
Speaker 2: establish themselves in the seat as a head coach. I
Speaker 2: know for me, you know, I like chose Nebraska because
Speaker 2: of the staff and like hindsight, like I've listened to
Speaker 2: Verbele talk about and everything else. You want to choose
Speaker 2: a school based on the school because you never know
Speaker 2: with some of the coaches. Yeah, speak on that because
Speaker 2: I know for me, like you could you could easily
Speaker 2: get me to go somewhere because I'm like, oh man,
Speaker 2: I want to play for boat plenty. But you know
Speaker 2: there are probably times where he might have left had
Speaker 2: he had the right opportunity.
Speaker 5: I think it's really hard because you know, I don't
Speaker 5: want to be a hypocrite because I've left twice. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 5: so I'll just say this, like, even after I left Temple,
Speaker 5: I went back like the next day and watch practice.
Speaker 5: I get rid of the ball game, and I got
Speaker 5: most of the guys were good with it. They understood
Speaker 5: like I came there. We built up from two to ten.
Speaker 5: We went to the championship game, we lost. I had
Speaker 5: a chance to take a bunch of jobs. I did,
Speaker 5: and I came back. We finished the deal. We won
Speaker 5: the championship the next year, and I felt like I did.
Speaker 5: I left the place better than I found it, and
Speaker 5: I moved on to a new challenge, you know, to
Speaker 5: go to Baylor. And I think most of the guys
Speaker 5: were good with it. But it's still hard, right, So
Speaker 5: I get that. I went to Baylor and was like, okay,
Speaker 5: we took over a scander bit in program. We went
Speaker 5: one to eleven, and then we went six and seven
Speaker 5: and six, then we went eleven and three, went to
Speaker 5: the Sugar Bowl. I went to the conversation machine, went
Speaker 5: to the Sugar Bowl. So I think most times I've left,
Speaker 5: I've always gone for something like a step up in competition.
Speaker 5: So I think the guys got it. But I don't
Speaker 5: need to move anymore, you know, like I also have.
Speaker 5: I I've seen what it does to my kids, and
Speaker 5: I've seen what it does to my family to have
Speaker 5: to you know, like you know, to have to move
Speaker 5: this many times. And so that was part of this deal,
Speaker 5: was like, hey, where can we go and be for
Speaker 5: a while. That being said, you know, I have to
Speaker 5: answer that question for recruits because I've done it.
Speaker 3: I've done it a couple of times.
Speaker 5: And you know, I don't I don't know that. I
Speaker 5: don't know that I'm you know, I don't know that
Speaker 5: I'll ever go back to the NFL. I don't know
Speaker 5: that that's in my heart, Like I don't. I don't
Speaker 5: know if I'll ever reconcile the business part of it
Speaker 5: for me, Like it's just it just was really hard
Speaker 5: for me to cut players and to be involved in that,
Speaker 5: Like it just it just didn't connect with me like
Speaker 5: I thought of it. I loved when I was assistant
Speaker 5: online coach of the Giants and I was just in
Speaker 5: the room with the Fellas and Christine and David Deal
Speaker 5: and all those guys. I loved it, Like I loved
Speaker 5: that brotherhood, that community in there.
Speaker 3: I did not.
Speaker 5: The role that I was in was really hard for me.
Speaker 5: At Nebraska, I I am.
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 5: I get to make the decisions you know that I
Speaker 5: can make along with it those and I get to
Speaker 5: develop those guys and watch them grow. I think it's
Speaker 5: more who I was. I I believe in transfer portal.
Speaker 5: I believe guys should have a chance to go where
Speaker 5: they want to go. I believe in and I believe.
Speaker 5: I just think what happens is sometimes adults we take
Speaker 5: advantage of a rule meant to help a young person,
Speaker 5: we turn into something it doesn't have to be, Like,
Speaker 5: let's let's give guys an opportunity to make money off
Speaker 5: their name, Let's get guys, give guys an opportunity to
Speaker 5: go to school where they want to go to school.
Speaker 5: It's just not abuse it. You know, we're supposed to
Speaker 5: be the adults. We're supposed to set a good example.
Speaker 5: Like I shouldn't be calling a guy in your roster saying, hey,
Speaker 5: come play for me, Like if he's happy there, let
Speaker 5: him be happy there, I mean unhappy and he wants
Speaker 5: to go in the portal.
Speaker 1: Fine, all's fair in love and war though, well, meantimes
Speaker 1: you gotta do businesses.
Speaker 3: Business is being done.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you, but like at the end of
Speaker 5: the day, like someone's gonna come recruit your guys' kids
Speaker 5: some day. Let's say they say the first thing I
Speaker 5: say is hey, I want to help you be the
Speaker 5: best man you can be to But then they start
Speaker 5: that off by the first thing they do is cheap.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I'm almost like like the money the wins that will
Speaker 5: come and go. When we're all old, we'll look back
Speaker 5: and say, like, you know, who was I? Not what
Speaker 5: did I do?
Speaker 3: But who?
Speaker 5: I really believe that who was I? And maybe it's
Speaker 5: good for me because, as I said, I've been I've
Speaker 5: won some coaching a Coach of the Year awards, I've
Speaker 5: been fired. I've seen both sides of it, and it's
Speaker 5: like there has to be something more other than just this.
Speaker 5: Now I'm gonna compete at the bighest level. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: do everything I can. I just think, you know, sometimes
Speaker 5: when we do this, does we tamper with a kid
Speaker 5: to come here? Sometimes we mess their lives up. Sometimes
Speaker 5: we get them out of a good situation into a
Speaker 5: worse situation, and we're responsible for that as adults. So
Speaker 5: hopefully I'm doing it the right way. It's really hard
Speaker 5: because there's the lines are very blurred right now, and
Speaker 5: you know what's legal it's not. I just think I'll
Speaker 5: do whatever I can to win in Nebraska as long
Speaker 5: as it's both legal and ethical, if I can live
Speaker 5: with it, if I can say that's that's the right
Speaker 5: thing to do. We have some rules, like if I
Speaker 5: saw a junior in high school, I can't talk to him.
Speaker 5: I think that's that doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 5: I can do I can't do that, but his agent
Speaker 5: can call me and say he needs five hundred thousand
Speaker 5: dollars to come here. Like there's some rules that are antiquated.
Speaker 5: I'm not worried about though. I'm talking about, you know,
Speaker 5: making sure that we put in young people's their their
Speaker 5: best interest at heart.
Speaker 8: Are we really doing that or not? Like, especially at
Speaker 8: a place like Nebraska.
Speaker 5: If you do that, the players, I believe they will,
Speaker 5: they will lay everything down for the corn Huskers.
Speaker 3: To win if we do that. Amen.
Speaker 1: So how do you navigate such as such a gray area?
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 3: With nil deals?
Speaker 1: Guys are getting money now and I don't believe coaches
Speaker 1: can promise money, right, we can't promise money.
Speaker 3: But to get in.
Speaker 1: Nebraska, We've talked about this in the podcast. To get
Speaker 1: in Nebraska to where it used to be, there's got
Speaker 1: to be more of a selling point than Lincoln. Because
Speaker 1: it's the Internet lives. You can see Miami and these
Speaker 1: really nice climate areas, and guys, look at Nebraska in
Speaker 1: the winter time. I've been there seven degrees it's freezing.
Speaker 1: So how do you sell these kids in a legal
Speaker 1: way to come to Nebraska to be great?
Speaker 8: You do think I'm giving you coaching answers, but I really.
Speaker 1: Think, first off, I think you're doing a phenomenal like this.
Speaker 1: This podcast has truly fired me.
Speaker 5: Up, so I don't I don't try to convince anybody
Speaker 5: any more to come, because no one's gonna convince me
Speaker 5: to come, right. I just try to tell people, like
Speaker 5: what our plan is for them and what we have,
Speaker 5: Like here's what we have, here's our plan for you,
Speaker 5: like I think we do. I'll just say this, like
Speaker 5: I talked to recruit, especially guys are think about transferred.
Speaker 5: I'm like, if you want to be a lawyer, do
Speaker 5: you go to medical school? No, if you want to
Speaker 5: be a doctor, a doctor, do you go to law schoo.
Speaker 5: So if you want to play in the NFL, why
Speaker 5: woudn't you go somewhere that's going to prepare you for
Speaker 5: the NFL. So like, if you want to go play
Speaker 5: d line in the National Football League, well come play
Speaker 5: for Terrence KnightMan who played for eight years and pot
Speaker 5: Rose has still he still shows his bridgestone commercial every
Speaker 5: chance he gets coached in the NFL, like, go play
Speaker 5: for us with him God's strength. Coach came from the NFL.
Speaker 5: I like, like, go somewhere that's going to prepare you
Speaker 5: for that. So I think us doing a really good
Speaker 5: job of showing people here's our plan for you. Everyone
Speaker 5: can talk, everyone can talk slick like, here's our plan
Speaker 5: for you.
Speaker 8: Academic, here's our plan for you. Socially, here's our plan
Speaker 8: for you.
Speaker 5: And then the great recruiting has not changed in that
Speaker 5: when the current players and the team tell you, hey,
Speaker 5: they mean what they say.
Speaker 3: You're gonna win.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: You see a lot of schools having mass exoduses because
Speaker 5: they got promised, maybe a lot, and the coach players
Speaker 5: are like, hey, don't come here. They're not doing what
Speaker 5: they said. I don't mind if a player doesn't like
Speaker 5: what I say, but I can't live in a world
Speaker 5: where they say we coach lied to me. You can
Speaker 5: be disappointed with what I said. I might be wrong,
Speaker 5: but I'm not gonna lie to you. And I think
Speaker 5: that's again when you get to year eleven and you
Speaker 5: have sort of the stability that I have, Like why
Speaker 5: why did I ask for an eight year contract? Because
Speaker 5: I don't want to have to bow to the whims
Speaker 5: of like, well, if I don't win this game, we're
Speaker 5: out after year two. I want to have the time,
Speaker 5: not because I think we're not gonna win right away,
Speaker 5: but I want the stability that people can say, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna come there and play for him, and I can
Speaker 5: do things the right way. But I just think if
Speaker 5: I do a good job with the current players, then
Speaker 5: more players will come. And you know, it's also about
Speaker 5: finding the right guys, about finding guys that know, Hey,
Speaker 5: this is what Lincoln, I'm not lying to you.
Speaker 3: I'm bringing guys in. I got guys on visits right now.
Speaker 5: It's actually fifty today, by the way, but it was
Speaker 5: cold the last couple of days, and like, hey, this
Speaker 5: is what it is man like can you do it
Speaker 5: or not?
Speaker 8: Like what happens when you get drafted by Cleveland? What
Speaker 8: are you gonna do then?
Speaker 3: Like if you can't handle.
Speaker 5: This, then you probably not right for us, because going
Speaker 5: back to what I said before, I want guys who
Speaker 5: are lions, Like if you're worried about this, that and
Speaker 5: the third, and you're probably not right for me because
Speaker 5: I'm worried about I want to win, and I want
Speaker 5: to see you get a degree, and I want to
Speaker 5: see us win a championship like you'll see sometimes my
Speaker 5: emoji game is a degree, a ring, and you know,
Speaker 5: I try to find a shield one time, saying like,
Speaker 5: those are three things I want for you, Like have
Speaker 5: a great time, get an education, win a ring, and
Speaker 5: go off and get drafted the NFL, make a ton
Speaker 5: of money five million after your first contract.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about your emoji game. Well, got you in
Speaker 2: the emoji game? The secret emojis? Because Dave Portnoy would
Speaker 2: hit me up and be like, hey, I think.
Speaker 3: It could be.
Speaker 2: It could be a tough look for coach rule not
Speaker 2: not knowing what your age is. But he's out there
Speaker 2: tweeting emojis. I don't know if he'll be able to
Speaker 2: compete with Michigan. Michigan ain't out there tweeting emojis. So
Speaker 2: this is your opportunity to talk about your emoji game
Speaker 2: because you got a little.
Speaker 5: Subtle Yeah, I just say, uh, I got recruits asking
Speaker 5: me to at them, like like I I will. I
Speaker 5: can say people's names now, right, So Malci Coleman goes
Speaker 5: on his visit to another school.
Speaker 8: He comes back the last night. You can come see
Speaker 8: as he comes in.
Speaker 3: With the Colorado. Okay, I'm trying not to say too much.
Speaker 1: Got my bag.
Speaker 3: I don't want anybody I want.
Speaker 5: I don't want any smoke, any problems. But but now
Speaker 5: he comes in any play ping pong r. I'm a
Speaker 5: big believer in Ping pong. I think like you have
Speaker 5: to put your phone down when you play it right.
Speaker 5: You can't have your earphones in when you play it right.
Speaker 5: Like I've just seen it transform locker rooms. Like so
Speaker 5: I put ping pong tables in the lounge everything like
Speaker 5: like to me, everything goes from like nah, we don't
Speaker 5: really talk to him all of a sudden, like you're
Speaker 5: good and you're good always play each other right.
Speaker 3: So like I love the game.
Speaker 5: So I play him, I beat him, and he's like coaching, Hey,
Speaker 5: tweet tweet that out, but tweet it and emoji, So
Speaker 5: you know what, I got.
Speaker 3: A lot of people, a lot of people have been
Speaker 3: kind of fired up about it. I'm kind of that's
Speaker 3: how it started.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, and if you go back to Baylor, I
Speaker 5: would do it every once in a while, like when
Speaker 5: I had a subtle hint for maybe another coach something like,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm never gonna talk trash about but sometimes
Speaker 5: I have to. Like I'm not a sheep either, right,
Speaker 5: so I can't if I feel like you're coming at
Speaker 5: me in the wrong way and recruiting, I would maybe
Speaker 5: do something that they could kind of get. But uh
Speaker 5: so I've been trying to do I'm trying to just
Speaker 5: do it a little bit here and there. But haters
Speaker 5: are gonna hate. People are gonna say whatever. You know,
Speaker 5: it is what it is.
Speaker 3: So what happens when you're fucking popping?
Speaker 1: The emojis are the modern day morse code. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: descriptions they're trying to decipher. Ay you hear him talking
Speaker 1: about the ping pong tables.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's always headlines each year where there's a new
Speaker 2: coaching staff or something where there could be ping pong
Speaker 2: tables in a locker room. They get taken out, YadA, YadA, YadA,
Speaker 2: and so on. You're kind of the first coach. I mean,
Speaker 2: we had them in Washington, but you're kind of the
Speaker 2: first coach I've heard be like, oh, I'm pro I
Speaker 2: get a ping punk table And.
Speaker 3: What are we talking about?
Speaker 5: Like you know what you'll lose because someone jumps off
Speaker 5: sides or someone drops the ball. The coach tries to
Speaker 5: be clever and comes up with ten new plays like
Speaker 5: like don't we want guys, Like don't we want guys
Speaker 5: to be around each other? Like and that's hard now
Speaker 5: in the era of phone sometimes so like everyone looking
Speaker 5: at their phone. So anything I can do, whether it's food,
Speaker 5: whether it's golf, whether it's My.
Speaker 8: First two years in the NFL was COVID. Like this
Speaker 8: past year I was.
Speaker 5: Able to like go out and play golf with Shaq
Speaker 5: Thompson and Christian and Corbett Johnny Hecker, who might be
Speaker 5: the one of the coolest dudes ever to hang out with.
Speaker 5: Like how much fun that was just to get to
Speaker 5: know them as people After the craziness of COVID. So
Speaker 5: why I missed that so much? You know, you go
Speaker 5: to the NFL and COVID it was so hard, Like
Speaker 5: I want, I want to come to I want to
Speaker 5: spend time with the guys. I don't want to sit
Speaker 5: in my office all day like looking at a computer.
Speaker 5: I want to I want to hang out with the fellas. Right,
Speaker 5: I'm always gonna be the coach, and I'm all, I'm
Speaker 5: forty seven, almost forty eight, like I'm never gonna be.
Speaker 8: But I'm not gonna try to relate on things I
Speaker 8: can't relate on.
Speaker 5: But yeah, let's go compete. I'll fight you to the
Speaker 5: death on the ping pong table. If we won't play racketball,
Speaker 5: fight you to the death, like I want you to compete.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna compete with you and that to me build
Speaker 5: some relationships.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you want to see some cast
Speaker 1: in the locker room, get a kids basketball hoop and
Speaker 1: so many basketball will go off.
Speaker 3: No doubt.
Speaker 1: We put u.
Speaker 3: We also down. We made like four square.
Speaker 1: All started using the basketballs lines out the door during
Speaker 1: camp out the door.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, dudes love the ping pong. They love the
Speaker 3: ping pong. Tressway is the best ping pong player.
Speaker 2: I've ever seen play really ever ever seen really Yeah,
Speaker 2: Tressway the punter, sound like you're kind of good though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, are you pretty good? I'm when we're in Carolina,
Speaker 5: like Christian was better than me. Andre Roberts, oh, Andre
Speaker 5: Rogers scratch golfer, and then elite ping pong player then
Speaker 5: like the specialist.
Speaker 3: But don't you know J J. Jansen?
Speaker 5: But I don't know if they count because they're not
Speaker 5: going to meetings really right, Yeah, they're playing all day.
Speaker 3: I mean JJ's in elite. You hate those guys the
Speaker 3: most during camp?
Speaker 5: Well they just yeah, I mean yeah, you know, Johnny, guys,
Speaker 5: I missed you.
Speaker 1: Like go to the movies. I'm like dying at a
Speaker 1: two thirty meeting, like, fucked, dude, it's awful.
Speaker 5: Johnny Hecker's over there putting, you know. I mean he's
Speaker 5: an elite golfer. So but I'm I'm pretty good, not great.
Speaker 5: I'm pretty good playing that case. There's a table over
Speaker 5: here and on a tre No, no, no, no, no, I'm
Speaker 5: pretty good.
Speaker 3: You wold my ass. I'm not like that on the
Speaker 3: ping pongk I wish it was.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I can't play pool. I can't I can't billiards or anything.
Speaker 3: I just can't make it go with a nice little
Speaker 3: player's lounge in the breath. That is a nice little
Speaker 3: Papa shot thing too. Yeah. Yeah, it's got all the
Speaker 3: bells and whistles.
Speaker 2: And we'd circle around the big uh what's it called
Speaker 2: big TV?
Speaker 3: What's it called it? Pulls down projector nice?
Speaker 2: We'd circle around the projector on those couches and we'd
Speaker 2: be playing back when it was like Percy Harvin on
Speaker 2: the Gators. Percy Harvin on the Gators. You play that
Speaker 2: part return mode on n C double A. I think
Speaker 2: it was fourteen, right, I don't, I mean, personally, might
Speaker 2: have been sooner than that.
Speaker 3: But players lounge man, some good old times there. He
Speaker 3: gets old xboxes and then ever be fun. You should
Speaker 3: NCAA fourteen for all the guys. They would love that.
Speaker 3: That's so much fun. I'm back at some point here
Speaker 3: sooner or no. I think it's point twenty four, right.
Speaker 3: I just Bill.
Speaker 5: Walsh's college football me at Penn State nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 5: I played with eighty three Auburn Bo Jackson, unstoppable. I
Speaker 5: was about his game a long time all the time.
Speaker 2: How has you were in college before you went to
Speaker 2: the NFL. Obviously, now you're back in college, the world's
Speaker 2: completely changed with the NIL How how eye opening? How
Speaker 2: have you been navigating those waters?
Speaker 3: Being like, Holy fuck?
Speaker 2: This is it seems to me like it's a free
Speaker 2: agency twenty four to seven at the college level, Like
Speaker 2: it's not even it's not even NFL world where you
Speaker 2: have three year contracts that you can't break whether you
Speaker 2: overperform or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yes, the wild West of college football right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you know, it's hard for me to
Speaker 5: say because I'm just getting started with it. I think
Speaker 5: as I go through a couple of years will be
Speaker 5: I'll probably have a better feel for you know exactly
Speaker 5: what I think about everything. At his core, I believe
Speaker 5: in it right, Like it's funny. I was talking to
Speaker 5: RG three like a couple of weeks ago. I was like,
Speaker 5: can you imagine they would have had this when you
Speaker 5: played how much my good makes so much money? I
Speaker 5: do he would have I mean, it would been it
Speaker 5: would have been an insane So at his core, I
Speaker 5: believe in it. You know, one thing I've says, I
Speaker 5: want guys to get taken care of as long as
Speaker 5: they're coming for the right reasons because you.
Speaker 8: Know, I know this, I know how hard I'm gonna work.
Speaker 5: I expect my staff to work for each guy, like
Speaker 5: as a person, like to give them what they need.
Speaker 5: And so I want them to want that. They got
Speaker 5: to want the football, they gotta want the academic. If
Speaker 5: they want all that, then if they get taken care of,
Speaker 5: you know, over here, then great, I'm all for it.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm also a guy that kind of wants
Speaker 5: everyone to get taken care of, like I watch for
Speaker 5: you know, I walked on at Penn State. I was
Speaker 5: never a great player, so probably have a soft spot
Speaker 5: in my heart for.
Speaker 3: Guys who walk on.
Speaker 5: But I always see those dudes out there doing everything
Speaker 5: everyone else is doing, and they're paying to go to school,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, man, I wish, you know, I like,
Speaker 5: I've see some schools, are you know, do using some
Speaker 5: of that ni Ol money to help those guys, which
Speaker 5: I think is beautiful for a locker room. Because you
Speaker 5: guys know this, but I say this to recruits all
Speaker 5: the time. The NFL is so crazy. It's the only
Speaker 5: job in the world where like the left guard and
Speaker 5: the right guard or the left corner and the right corner.
Speaker 5: They both have the same work schedule, they both have
Speaker 5: the same assignments, they both have the same practice, they
Speaker 5: both have the same risk to bodily. But yet this guy,
Speaker 5: this left guard, plays for eighteen million and this guy
Speaker 5: plays for six hundred and sixty thousand. Like if I
Speaker 5: stop at Chick fil A on the way out of here,
Speaker 5: like this one woman doesn't work for one hundred twenty
Speaker 5: our dollars an hour and this guy works for twelve.
Speaker 5: Like it doesn't work that way anywhere else in the world,
Speaker 5: but it works that way in football. And so like
Speaker 5: they need to learn early about value, Like, hey, you're
Speaker 5: gonna get paid, and your value in the NFL is
Speaker 5: going to come off of what you did in college.
Speaker 5: Like Ryan Burns was All Pro for US as a
Speaker 5: third year player. They didn't give him a raise. He
Speaker 5: was playing off his rookie deal. So you got to
Speaker 5: play well in college to make money in the NFL.
Speaker 5: You got to play well your first four years to
Speaker 5: make money on your second contract. So I think learning
Speaker 5: about value is pretty good, But I just like it
Speaker 5: when everyone, you know, if everyone could kind of get
Speaker 5: taken care of and guys learn how to manage their
Speaker 5: money right. You know, if you invest money at twenty two,
Speaker 5: twenty three, twenty four, twenty five, your life could be
Speaker 5: pretty good at sixty and sixty five. So when done
Speaker 5: right with responsible you know, adults helping hopefully, hopefully, it
Speaker 5: can be really good.
Speaker 1: Can you guys put things in place to help with
Speaker 1: financial stuff or does that have to be from a
Speaker 1: third party. We can do all that.
Speaker 5: We can do education, we can do a ton of it,
Speaker 5: and our people have done it. You know, our people
Speaker 5: at Nebraska are working really hard to have a really
Speaker 5: good you know, for me, Like I didn't know much
Speaker 5: about finances, you know, in college, I kind of just
Speaker 5: got a credit card and all of a sudden, I
Speaker 5: was like, oh wow, this is the piles so quickly,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 8: So I wish I would have done a better job.
Speaker 1: But general studies major, I know, I still don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on.
Speaker 3: I'm doing the best I can. But yeah, and I'm
Speaker 3: with you, you.
Speaker 5: Know, so I think we can do all that stuff.
Speaker 5: You can provide all that education, and then you don't.
Speaker 5: I like it when guys learn how to go out
Speaker 5: and be entrepreneurs and market themselves. A true meaning of
Speaker 5: it I like, go go go start something, you know,
Speaker 5: go go build your brand so that you have something
Speaker 5: after football.
Speaker 1: Did you always have this mindset or is this like
Speaker 1: a because you're changing with the times, because it's a
Speaker 1: very new age coach mindset. You said, you're an old
Speaker 1: school guy. You want to run the ball, play good defense.
Speaker 1: But for a coach, the head coach to hear and like,
Speaker 1: I want guys to market themselves. I want when we
Speaker 1: were in college, it was what are you guys doing
Speaker 1: on Twitter? You don't need to you don't need to
Speaker 1: be on that.
Speaker 3: It almost took it for almost like a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so now it's become like you guys need
Speaker 1: to be on this and do it, just do it smart.
Speaker 1: And like has that been a thing for you that
Speaker 1: you're like, guys should market themselves or has that changed
Speaker 1: over time?
Speaker 8: It's probably changed a little bit. I think there's something
Speaker 8: to it.
Speaker 3: Like I'll still see I'll.
Speaker 5: See like a player who keeps retweeting every fan that
Speaker 5: says something good about them, like, you know, here's what
Speaker 5: I'm ranked. I'm like, but what are you doing, like
Speaker 5: just worry about playing football? Like I don't necessarily mean
Speaker 5: that like where you're just because kind of what I
Speaker 5: talked about before, like if you only see your value
Speaker 5: based upon what other people say about you, I just mean, like,
Speaker 5: build a business, build connections. You know you want to
Speaker 5: get you want to get into music, you want to
Speaker 5: get into fashion, you want to get into education, whatever
Speaker 5: you want to get into, Like build that brand, but
Speaker 5: just just make sure you're also handling football first, and
Speaker 5: make sure you're having your education first, like those things,
Speaker 5: because your ultimate brand will come off of what you do, right,
Speaker 5: like what you do on the football field, what you
Speaker 5: do in the classroom.
Speaker 3: So let's build that.
Speaker 5: But on the side, I think it's awesome when guys
Speaker 5: learn these things, and you know, part of it is
Speaker 5: like the minute you know, as you guys know, the
Speaker 5: minute you start getting paid in the NFL, then then
Speaker 5: when the time comes, are gonna try to take the.
Speaker 8: Money away from you. You know what I'm saying, Like you're good.
Speaker 5: I've seen guys making eight million dollars all a sudden
Speaker 5: they're cut, they're signing a minimum deal.
Speaker 8: You have to learn how you have to learn all
Speaker 8: that now.
Speaker 5: And I probably didn't understand this probably as much before
Speaker 5: I went to the NFL, and I'm so glad we
Speaker 5: can't get involved in an IL because I think, you know,
Speaker 5: a guy has a contract, he doesn't like walking in
Speaker 5: the locker room. A guy you pay someone else instead
Speaker 5: of him. I was really glad that I wasn't handling
Speaker 5: all that. So when guys walk in the locker room,
Speaker 5: I'm like with me, bro, it's these guys over here.
Speaker 5: And I also going back to me and my ability
Speaker 5: to move, Like, I make a lot of money. Our
Speaker 5: coaches make a lot of money, so it's hard for
Speaker 5: me to say I'm gonna make a lot of money.
Speaker 5: But hey, I don't want the players getting anything that
Speaker 5: just doesn't seem right to me. I mean, Football's opened
Speaker 5: up doors I never thought I would have. I want
Speaker 5: the doors open for my guys as well.
Speaker 2: You said something you've said some before, but it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, guy's retweeting what people say about them, your
Speaker 2: perception and everything else.
Speaker 3: You live for the cheers, you die by the booze.
Speaker 2: It's like the moment you do have a bad game
Speaker 2: and you are feeling feeding into that stuff, it's gonna
Speaker 2: affect your psyche, which is something that you were alluding
Speaker 2: to earlier when sitting and have a conversation with Matt
Speaker 2: on guys like feeling like they're under a lot of
Speaker 2: pressure and everything else.
Speaker 3: But are you surprised.
Speaker 2: By some of the I guess how naive guys can be.
Speaker 3: Like high school recruits.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like you're gonna go in thinking you're gonna
Speaker 2: go in and meet somebody, set out and talk a
Speaker 2: little bit of shot.
Speaker 3: But how quickly it gets to money?
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: I think I think a lot of the high school
Speaker 5: kids have been really good, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: Like I mean some you know, I guess it's some guys,
Speaker 5: some people get involved with some most people. I just think,
Speaker 5: you know, if I tell you I'm not gonna talk
Speaker 5: money with you, I'm not gonna talk I'm your coach,
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna talk money with you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So I just think I have to have that discipline.
Speaker 5: But I think it's I think probably where you see
Speaker 5: more of the anil stuff happening is within people's own rosters,
Speaker 5: and you know, as people come in and say, hey,
Speaker 5: leave your that roster, and then but also with the transfers,
Speaker 5: you know, and and I'll be honest with you, like
Speaker 5: like you know, you guys talked about Garrett Nelson earlier, right, Like,
Speaker 5: Garret's a guy that you know could have maybe come
Speaker 5: back or could go off to the NFL. Like you know,
Speaker 5: maybe NIL can help a guy like that. Hey, if
Speaker 5: I do come back, I get I get taken care
Speaker 5: of pretty good because I could be making money in
Speaker 5: the NFL.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 5: I was fired up for Garrett about his decision. You know,
Speaker 5: I was happy for him. He was first class and
Speaker 5: did everything the right way. But you know there's times
Speaker 5: or if you have a draftable grade and you're thinking
Speaker 5: about coming back, if the NIL people or some people
Speaker 5: want to take care of you, I think that makes
Speaker 5: total sense to me. But you know how recruiting is,
Speaker 5: like one guy's completely different from the next, and just
Speaker 5: trying to find people who really want to come for
Speaker 5: you know what it used to.
Speaker 2: Be, you know what I mean, maybe maybe I phrased
Speaker 2: that wrong, but have you come across those situations you're like, Okay,
Speaker 2: it seems like his head's kind of a one where
Speaker 2: you're going to hit somebody up, Like, hey, he's you
Speaker 2: hit up? You know, t night you were seeing a
Speaker 2: d Lineman You're like, hey, he's not a type of guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we we say, oh, you'll see I say, oh,
Speaker 5: it's like one of us, like like, you know, I
Speaker 5: don't I tell you guys all, I don't care what
Speaker 5: I don't think. Brother, I don't care. I don't care
Speaker 5: how you carry your hair. I don't care you know
Speaker 5: what music you listen to. I don't care how you dress,
Speaker 5: care about how you do your football, how you treat people,
Speaker 5: and full So if I come across some way that's
Speaker 5: not about that, they're just not going to be a
Speaker 5: good fit. Like, yeah, I've learned my lesson when I
Speaker 5: made way too many mistakes early on trying to chase
Speaker 5: people getting seduced by talent. So if someone's not you know,
Speaker 5: again and again, I draw the distinction between the transfer
Speaker 5: guys who's proven what they can do and incoming freshmen.
Speaker 3: Like an incoming freshman's talking to me about.
Speaker 5: All this other stuff, like we should be talking about
Speaker 5: our study hall structure, like like, you know, you got
Speaker 5: to prove some things before, you know, I want to
Speaker 5: And again we stay out of that, but I do.
Speaker 5: I do think that, yes, there's a lot of people
Speaker 5: that they want to know what's in it for them,
Speaker 5: and they want to know what it is, and that's
Speaker 5: only natural. I just think as a coach, you have
Speaker 5: to say this is how we're gonna do it. I
Speaker 5: don't talk about this, you know, I talk about the school.
Speaker 5: Then if if you're interested, then you know, talk to
Speaker 5: these people over here. Yeah there's opportunities for you.
Speaker 3: Then great.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be fucking crazy in a couple
Speaker 2: of years. Yeah, I think the way it's.
Speaker 3: Gonna be wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But the next couple of years are going to
Speaker 1: be crazy because it seems like the Big Ten and
Speaker 1: the SEC especially are like kind of just taking as
Speaker 1: many colleges as possible, as the thought of the UCLA
Speaker 1: and USC being in the Big Ten five ten years
Speaker 1: ago would be just blasphemed as to be ridiculous. How
Speaker 1: do you think the college landscape is going to change?
Speaker 1: If you really are going to be at Nebraska for
Speaker 1: eight years, you're probably gonna see it.
Speaker 3: Do you see?
Speaker 1: Do you think there's an opportunity that the Big Ten
Speaker 1: and the SEC and maybe one other big conference and
Speaker 1: splits away from the NC DOUBLEA with all this new
Speaker 1: and ile stuff and il stuff going on and making
Speaker 1: their own like league.
Speaker 5: Almost you know, that's a great question. I've heard people
Speaker 5: say that I don't. I don't know that.
Speaker 3: I do think.
Speaker 5: I do think to your point, I think the Big
Speaker 5: Ten has kind of become like this coast to coast
Speaker 5: almost like yeah, college's NFL, you know. I mean we've
Speaker 5: from four will because Yah had a way to use
Speaker 5: to La like we got everything in between. So it
Speaker 5: becomes a really national brand, and that's I think that's
Speaker 5: actually kind of good for us. Like when I look
Speaker 5: at like when I look at like Texas, I went
Speaker 5: to Nebraska to be Texas as a Big Ten team.
Speaker 5: When I look at like west of here all the
Speaker 5: way till there's all those prospects from Arizona to Utah
Speaker 5: in between. Zone that doesn't have that doesn't have a
Speaker 5: that doesn't have a place to go, and if they
Speaker 5: want to play in the Big tennant, so it's the
Speaker 5: Big Ten to go to. As we go to sixteen
Speaker 5: teams and the Big ten's getting three to four teams
Speaker 5: in every year to the College Football Playoff, Hey come
Speaker 5: to Nebraska. I think that's one of the things I
Speaker 5: saw in the SEC is certainly the SEC and then
Speaker 5: we have.
Speaker 3: To defeat them. Yeah, we got to beat them.
Speaker 2: I think something like that that helps Nebraska because I
Speaker 2: in my opinion, I loved like I got to play
Speaker 2: two years in the Big twelve, two years in the
Speaker 2: Big Ten.
Speaker 3: I loved when we got to go to the Big Ten.
Speaker 2: But now hindsight, I almost feel like it hurt us
Speaker 2: to go to the Big Ten because we became We
Speaker 2: recruited so much California, especially Texas, and I know coaches
Speaker 2: now think thinking about from the coach's perspective, you're sitting
Speaker 2: in these living rooms in Texas and being able to
Speaker 2: at least tell families you'll be able to see these
Speaker 2: guys play a couple times a ye're at Baylor, at Texas,
Speaker 2: tech A, and m at the time, you'll be able
Speaker 2: to see him. And then you know you can still
Speaker 2: come to Nebraska. Now Nebraska before UCLA and USC's join it.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like you're gonna fly over Michigan, Ohio.
Speaker 2: You know, all this, all these states just to play
Speaker 2: at Nebraska, and you can't necessarily recruit Texas as well,
Speaker 2: because like, oh, we don't play there at all anymore.
Speaker 2: So I feel like getting to the West coast like
Speaker 2: USC in UCLA that helps Nebraska a little bit more,
Speaker 2: because now if you're recruiting, you know, California and the
Speaker 2: West coast a little bit more, you'll at least be
Speaker 2: able to say, hey, we're closer than all these other
Speaker 2: fucking big time schools, you know on the East.
Speaker 5: And plus, like when I was at Baylor, I could
Speaker 5: tell people like, hey, nine out of our nine of
Speaker 5: our twelve games or ten of our twelve games this
Speaker 5: year are in the state of Texas. Well, that's gonna change,
Speaker 5: you know, the Big Twelve is changing now. They're bringing
Speaker 5: in Cincinnati and some other teams. So now you are
Speaker 5: leaving the state every year. And now even you know
Speaker 5: Texas and Texa, A and M. Now as they go
Speaker 5: to the SEC, they're playing in Alabama, they're playing and George.
Speaker 5: So all of college football is pretty becoming pretty regional.
Speaker 5: I'm old school man. I miss like Pitt Penn State,
Speaker 5: and then I miss you know, Nebraska playing Colorado Nebraska.
Speaker 5: Ou like, I missed all the old school games, you know,
Speaker 5: But it's what's happened. It is what it is, right,
Speaker 5: So I think this this move with USC and UCLA
Speaker 5: coming in the day, ten, moving up the playoff, expanding
Speaker 5: to twelve teams. It's the perfect time for Nebraska, a
Speaker 5: perfect time for us. It's one of the major reasons
Speaker 5: I was like, I see an opportunity here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's start it with some you know, early little
Speaker 2: bit of fun. You brought up Nebraska Colorado. That rivalry
Speaker 2: gets to kind of reignite itself this year. Dionna is
Speaker 2: now at Colorado. There's a lot of fluff. There wasn't
Speaker 2: an amusing scene the ad bag for Colorado fans like please, let's.
Speaker 1: Not they're red travels now yeah, back and seeing him
Speaker 1: like I tell you what I I.
Speaker 5: There's a picture, there's a thing in our media guy
Speaker 5: of all the different pictures of us taking over stadiums
Speaker 5: and the sea of red and traveling and I just
Speaker 5: you know, you know, I've worked with some great places,
Speaker 5: but I've never had that, like I've never had that
Speaker 5: home field advantage, that road advantage. So I can't wait
Speaker 5: for it, you know, I can't wait to have that chance.
Speaker 5: And I think, you know, it's funny. I have so
Speaker 5: much respect for dion but like our last official visit weekend,
Speaker 5: they have they have the mad in nextbox whatever on they.
Speaker 3: Have to and it's like it's it's it's it's it's
Speaker 3: his prime on there.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, guys, take off the we're trying to
Speaker 5: beat Colorado on recruits.
Speaker 3: They're like, it's Madden. What are we gonna do. He's
Speaker 3: he's on the cover of Madden.
Speaker 5: As it scrolls through the thing, I'm like, it's kind
Speaker 5: of hard to be with one of the greatest football
Speaker 5: players of all time.
Speaker 3: So but but you know what, I'm sure players though,
Speaker 3: might not be best coach of all times.
Speaker 5: Well, and you know, I'm sure he's done a great job.
Speaker 5: I just now I will see that. I but I
Speaker 5: believe in our staff. I believe what we're doing, and
Speaker 5: we're gonna, you know, we're gonna put it together and
Speaker 5: go out there and play. It'd be a great game.
Speaker 5: I think it'll be a great thing for I think
Speaker 5: it's a great thing for college football though, like Nebraska Colorado.
Speaker 5: Like when I was going through this process, showing my
Speaker 5: wife and my son, like you know, the eighties and
Speaker 5: nineties and those rivalries and coach McCartney and coach of
Speaker 5: Osborne and just those are some great games, man, and
Speaker 5: so like to have this game. And I think the
Speaker 5: last two times we played them like rolling two against them,
Speaker 5: you know, in the last two games against Colorado. So
Speaker 5: you know, to start off at Minnesota and then come
Speaker 5: back and go with to Colorado.
Speaker 3: That's that's gonna be fun. That's gonna be just a little
Speaker 3: warm up with Minnesota the Gophers.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was funny though about that ad begging, right,
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 8: It was funny trying to get me in trial, bro,
Speaker 8: trying to.
Speaker 1: You don't have to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll ask you your question.
Speaker 1: Do you fully expect Nebraska to go into Colorado and
Speaker 1: totally have a sea of red and boulder.
Speaker 3: I expect our fans to show up. Let's go. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it would be there. I'll be there and let's go.
Speaker 3: I expect our fans to show up.
Speaker 5: I as I've gotten out to the western part of
Speaker 5: the state and seeing all the like the die hard,
Speaker 5: die hard, Like I'm in I'm in Scott's Bluff and
Speaker 5: we're a little group pub downtown and there's people figured
Speaker 5: out that we were there, me and the OC, and
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, there's just people there like shaking
Speaker 5: our hand.
Speaker 3: Like those people, those people out there, they're excited about
Speaker 3: Nebraska football.
Speaker 5: So I think it's I'm hoping that people come from everywhere,
Speaker 5: and then I'll be honest with you, I can't wait
Speaker 5: for our first home game, you know, uh, the Northern Illinois,
Speaker 5: Like I like, I just can't wait to walk I
Speaker 5: walk by that field in the mornings.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 8: I get into work whatever time and walk out there.
Speaker 5: Man, it's like I'm gonna coach here like and it's
Speaker 5: kind of like humbling like and also like, hey, you
Speaker 5: better get your aub I mean, like make sure we're
Speaker 5: ready to go, because I want those people to see
Speaker 5: a team that they that they really like.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: You talked about good football players in Arizona. There's some
Speaker 3: studs out there right now. There's some really good players,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Would you say Arizona is probably a top five state
Speaker 1: in recruiting.
Speaker 8: I say it's it's pretty important.
Speaker 2: Pretty there's a lot about where the best players come from.
Speaker 8: It's pretty important for us right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Arizona's pretty important for Nebraska.
Speaker 5: Arizona's a really good place for us. You know a
Speaker 5: lot of people from Nebraska have second homes there or
Speaker 5: vacation that when Will came into town, there's damn parade going.
Speaker 8: So it's it's it's a it's a it's an easy trip.
Speaker 3: And so it's, uh, it's got some good quarterbacks in Arizona.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, big Kyler, Murray Finn Yeah player. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and you know at all levels, you know, college.
Speaker 2: High school, absolutely, all levels.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at all levels.
Speaker 2: Hypothetically, I think we got to go all in on
Speaker 2: whoever the number one recruit is, like the best.
Speaker 5: I think, I think I think Nebraska should. I think
Speaker 5: Nebraska should recruit the best of the best. And also,
Speaker 5: let guys know that what an unbeieble opportunity to come be,
Speaker 5: you know, like I want to be one of the
Speaker 5: people that you know, brings us to glory. And so
Speaker 5: the players that choose to come here in this class
Speaker 5: and maybe like next year's class, they're the ones who
Speaker 5: who I think people remember for a long time. Like, Hey,
Speaker 5: the state wants us, you want us, everyone that loves
Speaker 5: Nebraska wants us to be great again. So let's let's
Speaker 5: let's let's get the right players and coaches here and
Speaker 5: people will remember those guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah the Nebraska good answer, Hey, you are playing an
Speaker 1: excellent game of chests.
Speaker 3: Right, We'll say this one thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because Jalen Petree just I think it's just at
Speaker 5: the NFL record for Jen for Uh play second round
Speaker 5: draftter for the Texans, played for me at Bayol, then
Speaker 5: played for coach Randa Uh. He was the only player
Speaker 5: that stayed committed in the recruiting class after the scandal
Speaker 5: had happened at Baylor and I got there, I didn't
Speaker 5: even know him, and I introduced myself to him. I
Speaker 5: remember the two tour guys are walking with him, and
Speaker 5: the one tour guy started crying and she was like,
Speaker 5: I just want you to know, like I know, you're
Speaker 5: the only person that when everyone else left the program,
Speaker 5: you're the only kid who stayed. And so he well,
Speaker 5: someday probably have a statue built for him at Baylor
Speaker 5: because he's the guy who bridged the gap. He's the
Speaker 5: He's the one, like I got some credit that I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 3: He's the one.
Speaker 5: And now he said an NFL record this year as
Speaker 5: a rookie. He's a special, special person. So that sense
Speaker 5: of legacy, it's you go to a place like Nebraska
Speaker 5: and you walk by the All Americans, you walk by
Speaker 5: the Heisman.
Speaker 3: I mean it's pretty hard.
Speaker 5: Like I used to walk through the halls of Penn State,
Speaker 5: Like we I'll never be the first to do anything here.
Speaker 5: We've done it all. But when your your program hits
Speaker 5: a little bit of adverse here, the people who show
Speaker 5: up now, kind of like Jalen did at Baylor, they'll
Speaker 5: they'll remember you for a long.
Speaker 2: Long time, right, like a quarterback who could be sitting
Speaker 2: out there somewhere in any state on the west.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Soona, there's none as a top five recruiting school.
Speaker 2: Or with the recruiting state, you'd be part of some
Speaker 2: legacy type shit. Legacy stuff. Do you understand? I think
Speaker 2: you're like you're obviously going to say yes, But do
Speaker 2: you truly understand how rabid these fans are in Nebraska?
Speaker 2: Not go back and watch some old pressers from bo Pliny,
Speaker 2: just some old school ship like you gotta you gotta
Speaker 2: buckle in around linked Nebraska, keep.
Speaker 3: Your hands in the card at all times during the
Speaker 3: ride type stuff.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think I do believe this.
Speaker 5: I believe, like I said, after everything I've gone through,
Speaker 5: the good and the bad, I think that's got me
Speaker 5: this point where I'm like as stoic and as zen
Speaker 5: as possible, Like I was on the plane the other
Speaker 5: day flying you know, I flew back from Charlotte from
Speaker 5: the Coaches convention and commercial commercial yeah, and I was
Speaker 5: was fortunate that was able to sit up for They
Speaker 5: started chanting go Big Red as we were landing in Omaha,
Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, this is real. Okay, So
Speaker 5: but you know what, I would much rather have passion
Speaker 5: than apathy and knowing that on both sides of it
Speaker 5: there can always be you know, sometimes it can be.
Speaker 5: But I've met a lot of really great people, and
Speaker 5: I think I think people in Nebraska right now are
Speaker 5: so starved to like just like, let's just go see
Speaker 5: what a go back to a Bowl game, Like, let's
Speaker 5: just do that. Like so I can feel people are
Speaker 5: getting excited about here, we're gonna do this with it.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to stay in the moment, like did everyone
Speaker 3: go to community service today?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 5: Did everyone go to practically everyone showed up lifting this morning.
Speaker 5: That's great, stay in that that kind of that space.
Speaker 5: But I'm excited about what maybe we can do.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like.
Speaker 2: It's almost like that's what Nebraska just wants to do again.
Speaker 2: You thought everybody thought we had it with Scott with
Speaker 2: like him playing in the nineties him being a successful coordinator,
Speaker 2: head coach coming to Nebraska. We got our fucking guy,
Speaker 2: and for it to not happen, it's kind of like, fuck, man, Like,
Speaker 2: what is even the expectation anymore?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? No, I thought you were
Speaker 3: going to cry for a second. You almost do.
Speaker 2: It's like you come into this job and it's like
Speaker 2: somebody takes on this responsiblity because a lot of people
Speaker 2: argue that it's a fucking hard job to want to
Speaker 2: go into because the expectation is so high, and you
Speaker 2: already alluded to it the little apathy quote you had
Speaker 2: Passion over apathy. It's like the expectation is so high
Speaker 2: and recruiting can be a little dicey because you're trying
Speaker 2: to get these kids to Middle America again when you
Speaker 2: can play anywhere.
Speaker 3: It's it's like I'm excited. I'm excited. And you texted
Speaker 3: your boy like on day one, like coach rule text
Speaker 3: on all like Will texted me at the minute he
Speaker 3: texted you texted him brother.
Speaker 2: It's like the president gets he becomes the president of
Speaker 2: the first one hundred days, it's like on your list.
Speaker 3: Get in with the boy. You know what I mean,
Speaker 3: was that on the list.
Speaker 5: On the list, probably number one on the list, calling
Speaker 5: my wife and making sure she was but it was
Speaker 5: in the top five.
Speaker 3: Oh shit.
Speaker 5: But no, In all seriousness, like, as we went through
Speaker 5: this process, we had so much time.
Speaker 3: Like I watched all these things.
Speaker 5: I watched all the tunnel walks, I watched Coach Pollini,
Speaker 5: I watched Coach Osborne, I watched Coach So I watched
Speaker 5: all these different things.
Speaker 3: But I watched you guys.
Speaker 5: I watched, I went I went back and watched when
Speaker 5: you guys had Coach Pollini on here, Like I watched,
Speaker 5: I had a chance to really immerse myself and say, okay,
Speaker 5: Matt is you know because I'm when I go in,
Speaker 5: I go in, I go all in, like all in.
Speaker 8: I was like, are you ready to go all in
Speaker 8: on this? And but you guys were part of that
Speaker 8: process from me.
Speaker 5: That's why being here, honestly, it's unbelievably cool because I
Speaker 5: get to talk about Nebraska. I got to do it
Speaker 5: in a way that's fun, and I get to talk
Speaker 5: about football, and I get to kind of laugh at
Speaker 5: myself a little bit, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 5: I got to see that from you guys, And that's
Speaker 5: important to me. You know what I'm saying. You can
Speaker 5: you can lose yourself when you when you have when
Speaker 5: you're a coach, you can lose yourself and think you're
Speaker 5: too important, you know what, Like let's let's just let's
Speaker 5: just be ourselves.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like from a first impression standpoint, like
Speaker 1: I have never met you. Today's the first day with
Speaker 1: you and I have talked. I liked you, and I
Speaker 1: feel like if I'm a recruit, I'm watching this like
Speaker 1: I like that guy too, Like you got high energy,
Speaker 1: You're passionate, You're ready.
Speaker 3: To get after it.
Speaker 1: You know what, the kind of football you want to play.
Speaker 1: You talk about your lows. Yeah, yeah, and that's a
Speaker 1: huge thing too. It's because people like to run away
Speaker 1: from their mishaps. There's things that happened that didn't go
Speaker 1: their way. You're you're facing a head on. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: the spear, butd you're this spear for the breast of corners.
Speaker 2: Everything you said about watching busting is like you're like,
Speaker 2: you know, did I get caught up or wrapped up?
Speaker 2: And seeing people laugh at themselves. I think it's super
Speaker 2: important man, because you can't get lost, no doubt in
Speaker 2: the identity of like I'm here, man, everybody's fucking coming
Speaker 2: after me to come down. Like you know, you said,
Speaker 2: what do I do? You know, take my kids to
Speaker 2: school or go home? And Pat, I'm sure you did both.
Speaker 2: You probably took them to school, fucking that's.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Pat it on the way home almost busting
Speaker 1: with the boys. Maybe, no doubt, Yeah, dude, because we
Speaker 1: talk about all the time that there's people that either
Speaker 1: are on pedestals or put themselves on pedestals and just
Speaker 1: refuse to take a giggle at themselves, know when they
Speaker 1: fucked up.
Speaker 3: And it's like, dude, if.
Speaker 1: You just do that, life, the anxiety of life dwindles
Speaker 1: and you feel so much better. Now. I do have
Speaker 1: a very important this might be the most important question.
Speaker 1: This might be not the rodback, but this is definitely
Speaker 1: a massively important question. And the way you answer it's
Speaker 1: going to change the directory of our friendship. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you and Will are going to be the
Speaker 1: fourth game this season you will playing. You will be
Speaker 1: playing the Michigan Wolverines in Lincoln, Nebraska. Now, there are
Speaker 1: talks that last year Michigan won the first inaugural bus
Speaker 1: and Bowl official or unofficial. That's the argument that people
Speaker 1: are putting at it, putting up with it. Are you
Speaker 1: willing to sign papers saying that Michigan or Nebraska will
Speaker 1: be playing for the first official Busting Bowl against Michigan
Speaker 1: next year?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Also, here's what I do you know a lawyer
Speaker 3: right right now? Stream of the bust and Bowl, I'm
Speaker 3: not so.
Speaker 2: We we did the spring tour last year where we
Speaker 2: went to UH, we went to Nebraska, we went to Michigan,
Speaker 2: we went to Tennessee. We didn't interviews, sat out with
Speaker 2: Scott coach Chintz, Uh, Trev Alberts, he's been on the bus.
Speaker 2: We went to that Michigan game the last year and UH.
Speaker 2: We were sitting down on the spring tour and Taylor's like, hey,
Speaker 2: I got an idea and talked about like, hey, I'm
Speaker 2: going to ask if we can do the bust and Bowl,
Speaker 2: Like I'm gonna Askcott Frost if he'll say yes. He
Speaker 2: got fired up, said yes. We went to Michigan. Scott
Speaker 2: was like, look, if R. A. D's on board and
Speaker 2: Michigan's on board, I'm all for it. Like, let's sign it.
Speaker 2: We go to Michigan.
Speaker 3: Hold on, do we have the clip? Do you have
Speaker 3: do you have the clip of Harpball? He's grabbing the Uh.
Speaker 1: He he's grabbing the contract right now, So go ahead.
Speaker 1: Will this is your this is your story.
Speaker 2: We go to Michigan and we asked Carball and Harpball's
Speaker 2: all about it. We have our legal team drop a
Speaker 2: document to to make this thing official. Jim Harball is
Speaker 2: the only guy who has signed it.
Speaker 3: He was all in.
Speaker 2: He was hitting his chest like he was getting into
Speaker 2: you felt it. He's all about competing, just like yourself.
Speaker 2: We'd love to see a ping pong game there. But
Speaker 2: he signed it along the way, it got lost a
Speaker 2: little bit of translation. I'm I like to feel like
Speaker 2: I'm connected at Nebraska and I was told that we
Speaker 2: would get this thing signed. Training camp kind of got
Speaker 2: away from all of us for a little bit. You know,
Speaker 2: you got your ten up in the air.
Speaker 3: Where we going here? Where we're going there?
Speaker 1: Camp?
Speaker 3: And unfortunately Nebraska had the year that they had.
Speaker 2: I tried making it happen, knowing that it's like this
Speaker 2: probably isn't gonna get signed because there's so many more
Speaker 2: important things going on than signing a document. To make
Speaker 2: the bust and Bowl official when Nebraska's like losing game in,
Speaker 2: game out, and so our side didn't necessarily sign it.
Speaker 1: So Taylor and car Ball signed it before we even
Speaker 1: finished the question. Yeah, that's right, signed it before we
Speaker 1: even finished the question.
Speaker 2: And so Taylor and I still took it upon ourselves,
Speaker 2: like we're gonna still make this thing unofficially official, but
Speaker 2: we're going to go to Michigan.
Speaker 3: Bring the trophy mass it's forty pounds. It's sitting in
Speaker 3: it's sitting in the Michigan locker room in their trophy.
Speaker 1: Right next to Paul Bunyan. Pull it up right now,
Speaker 1: well you can, you can?
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say? No, I
Speaker 2: want him to see that it's this is a this
Speaker 2: is a living breath November. Yeah, dude, can't sponsor the trophy.
Speaker 2: We have a full on trophy made with little you
Speaker 2: know them little things. We can write the name in
Speaker 2: etch the name and everything else. It's a legit trophy.
Speaker 2: And so we're excited about next year. As you can tell,
Speaker 2: I need the what you what you usually need. You
Speaker 2: need the head coach on board, you need their signature,
Speaker 2: you need the A D signature. I know Trev would
Speaker 2: be on board this. He's got to play his game,
Speaker 2: and he said the right thing. He's like, well, I
Speaker 2: know you respect. We got a lot of things going
Speaker 2: on right now, and I was like, hand up, fully understand.
Speaker 2: Had to ask because the game's coming up.
Speaker 3: Yeap. So that's why we asked the question, are you
Speaker 3: willing to make this thing official?
Speaker 2: Brass trophy? Love it that's sitting in like recruit see it.
Speaker 2: And when they went to the game, because I know
Speaker 2: all of Nebraska's gonna watch this. When we went to
Speaker 2: the game, even in the recruiting area they had with
Speaker 2: the lights you know the lights that you guys put
Speaker 2: in the Hawks to decorate all the ball, big bull
Speaker 2: bull lights sing busting bull. The day came playing the game,
Speaker 2: I know Nebraska could do well, Nebreska. I'm just letting
Speaker 2: you know that's what's happening behind enemy factual. What do
Speaker 2: you know, our legal team made up a contract right
Speaker 2: here perfect. So all you're gonna do is I write
Speaker 2: your name and then you can read through it if
Speaker 2: you like. There's a lot of language here, but I
Speaker 2: would if you want.
Speaker 3: To h this is this is history. This is history brother.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, well is that.
Speaker 1: A real signature.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of loops.
Speaker 1: I was just making sure that's a lot of loops,
Speaker 1: all right, now, Yes, So when we were at.
Speaker 3: The game, there another signature ship. You're right. See, I
Speaker 3: think he's gonna dip on the boys. I don't think
Speaker 3: it's important to him like it is coach rule. But
Speaker 3: I think, no, he's not dipping on the boys.
Speaker 1: He said a statement he's he fully plans to be
Speaker 1: a part of the Michigan Wolverines twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: State would have doctored statement right there by his agent.
Speaker 1: They wrote it, didn't they Now twenty million dollars a year,
Speaker 1: he allegedly got offered by the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of mutual interest.
Speaker 1: Money does talk, And I wouldn't be mad at him,
Speaker 1: but i'd be real I would I would cry because
Speaker 1: it's over.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't smile because it happened, which I know you're
Speaker 3: not supposed to do.
Speaker 2: Now, this.
Speaker 3: That was huge what you did there, That was that
Speaker 3: was Yeah. I might need a moment of silence real quick. Hey,
Speaker 3: can we get a moment of silence for the buzzleball
Speaker 3: Coachurill sending it. Thank you. That was big. They went
Speaker 3: hand to the heart. I didn't know what to do.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, man, hey the iconic. That was iconic. Man,
Speaker 3: this this has been one of my favorite episodes. Thank
Speaker 3: you having you on it all the time. Oh good time, dude.
Speaker 1: We have a great time on this bus. But sometimes
Speaker 1: guys come on, you're like kind of fishing trying to
Speaker 1: find things to talk about. But really you've been great.
Speaker 1: If you've spoken well, I think you've done yourself a service.
Speaker 1: These recruits that are probably watching this episode get to.
Speaker 3: Know Matt rule.
Speaker 1: Here you go. You have an hour and twenty one
Speaker 1: minutes plus happening. By this Baby's not over yet.
Speaker 2: All of Nebraska will be tuned in. I'm sure you're
Speaker 2: probably aware.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they do go hard man.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: The coolest thing about Nebraska is I went there. I
Speaker 1: played there in twenty thirteen because you were you were
Speaker 1: lest years twenty twelve. I went there and no, that's
Speaker 1: the year we got our aspey. It was twenty twelve.
Speaker 3: Wee me, yeah, yeah, we got our asspyt.
Speaker 1: The stadium was rocking, extremely loud lights, The boys were
Speaker 1: playing well, Donar got hurt.
Speaker 3: That's why we lost.
Speaker 1: We probably could have won that game, but we ended
Speaker 1: up not winning that game, ended up just getting absolutely
Speaker 1: pile dry for sixty minutes after the game. There's fans
Speaker 1: that are kind of lined up as you're walking out,
Speaker 1: and they are the nicest.
Speaker 3: Hey, great job. Hey, you'll get them next time. You guys.
Speaker 1: Keep it up, have a great rest of the season.
Speaker 1: A feeling you don't really get when you play football
Speaker 1: against opposing fan bases.
Speaker 3: It was it is very cool place.
Speaker 5: The greatest feeling in the world as a coach. You know,
Speaker 5: the greatest thing you can ever say to someone as
Speaker 5: a coach. You welcome f you've won. You walk up
Speaker 5: and say, hey, your boys played hard today.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Joey Maguire, the coach Text to Tech taught me that
Speaker 5: I just whenever I can, you know, just you boys
Speaker 5: played hard today. Boys played harder, Boys played hard today.
Speaker 1: Do we want to do a tier talk? Because I
Speaker 1: have one in my head that we could do. I
Speaker 1: know we talked about maybe possibly doing emojis, but just
Speaker 1: to keep the Nebraska theme, we could do our tier,
Speaker 1: our top tier, top three selling points at the University
Speaker 1: of Nebraska.
Speaker 2: MM see sometimes I don't like when it's just centric
Speaker 2: on one thing because they say you do emoji, it's
Speaker 2: the head coach or universal. We can have him list
Speaker 2: his top three things selling points at Nebraska and we
Speaker 2: can all rate it by one word. It's almost like
Speaker 2: it's almost like, yeah, it's and it would probably be
Speaker 2: basic because it's going to be education.
Speaker 3: But what he's already said, it's gonna be Nebraska U
Speaker 3: Educational University.
Speaker 5: We have the most academic all Americans of any athletic
Speaker 5: department in the country, over one hundred more than Stanford.
Speaker 1: Well that might just be in Nebraska just giving out
Speaker 1: good grades. I'm just saying it could be I'm over here,
Speaker 1: I'm now, I'm now on outside. I've walked outside the box.
Speaker 1: If Michigan wantitude, that they would because they're a top
Speaker 1: fifteen public school in the entire world. We'll get just
Speaker 1: start dishing out as to the boys. Now, the whole
Speaker 1: team's academical Americans.
Speaker 5: It's all sports at just across the old department, one
Speaker 5: hundred more than Stanford.
Speaker 3: You're doing something, you're doing something, you're doing something, You're
Speaker 3: going to do something right. Tell them what stands for
Speaker 3: Nebraska I can't do it. Knowledge, I can't do it.
Speaker 3: I knew, I knew the joke, but I couldn't do it.
Speaker 3: I couldn't do it. That I got the joke, I
Speaker 3: feel like any other like, oh that's nice, that's nice.
Speaker 3: I can't do it, he said, I can't do it, dude,
Speaker 3: all right, we'll do emoji. So well, do you want
Speaker 3: to explain our tear talk?
Speaker 2: So tiar talk is essentially are you familiar with t
Speaker 2: your talks if you've caught up on some episodes, So
Speaker 2: tier talk is essentially tier one, Tier two, tier three.
Speaker 2: You can throw it an honorable mention if you'd like to,
Speaker 2: but essentially your top three emojis. Our tier talk today
Speaker 2: for this episode is going to be emojis, since you
Speaker 2: are basically the emoji king. I'm trying, do we need
Speaker 2: to take a second. I kind of need to see exactly.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out which avenue I want to
Speaker 2: go down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: There's some fun stuff out there. There's some fun stuff
Speaker 3: out there. Might try to be unprofessional in front of
Speaker 3: coach rule.
Speaker 1: Yourself, stay horny, my boy, exactly, all right.
Speaker 3: I think mine's gonna be my honorable mention, tipping the
Speaker 3: cap to the moon, the moon emoji, the dark moon emoji.
Speaker 2: In fact, when you throw that, if you add that
Speaker 2: to your bag and you saw that in there, it
Speaker 2: throws people off, like what does even mean by that?
Speaker 2: But it's funny looking. You just randomly throw it in
Speaker 2: a conversation. I'm telling you it's good. Added to your back.
Speaker 3: Boys. My Tier three, there's gonna be the waters. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we gotta stay hydrated out there. You gotta stay hydrated
Speaker 3: out there. Keep that H two O up. My tier two, big.
Speaker 2: Big vegetable guy, the egg plant, like the egg plant.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the egg plant for my two.
Speaker 3: My tier one.
Speaker 2: This is this, this emoji's been with me all time
Speaker 2: since since Earth. The eyes you shoot the eyes. The
Speaker 2: eyes are killer. Yeah, keep in the draft draft but
Speaker 2: eyes Tier one, egg plant, big vegetable guy. Tier two
Speaker 2: could be corn, you know, could be corn. Could be corn,
Speaker 2: big big cob energy. That's a big thing we're all
Speaker 2: about on Saturday's Memorial Stadium.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: But my tier in my Tier three water and typically cap.
Speaker 2: Salute to the moon. I love, I love the little
Speaker 2: moon emoji. Like that's my that's my tier that's my
Speaker 2: tiar talk. Now, what we do is everybody goes around
Speaker 2: and gives a one word response to your tiar talk.
Speaker 3: So we'll go around. You can go last, respectable, true.
Speaker 8: Hard, hornie, and I can't tell my mom to watch
Speaker 8: this now.
Speaker 3: No devious, Oh you know, I'm sorry. You know you're
Speaker 3: my boy. I have to be honest. Yeah, well too,
Speaker 3: I say two words, you just say hyphenated if you
Speaker 3: say too.
Speaker 8: Dephonated, too clever, well, too clever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a clever boy. Clever boy, clever boy.
Speaker 1: That egg plan got real clever back in the day. Respectable, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really, I really with that right now, my honorable mention. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's not used a lot, but when it is, it
Speaker 1: just means so much. That is the goat emoji. When
Speaker 1: you put out the goat emoji, you know we all
Speaker 1: know what that means. And that just like Will said,
Speaker 1: a tip of the cap to whatever individually you might
Speaker 1: be referring to at that time.
Speaker 3: My Tier three got to eat your vegetables. It's very important.
Speaker 1: This thing, since the dawning of its time, has really
Speaker 1: helped me send that Morse code out letting everybody know
Speaker 1: where I'm at. I need them vegetables, and that goes
Speaker 1: to the egg plant. My Tier two is a new
Speaker 1: one that's been introduced to me, I would say in
Speaker 1: the last six months. But I love it with a passion.
Speaker 3: That is the salute. I think this salute is.
Speaker 1: Move especially because it's half faced thing. It's funny and
Speaker 1: it packs upon dude. I probably overuse it. And then
Speaker 1: my tier one has to go to them eyes. You're
Speaker 1: trying to get so hey, especially you're in your group chat.
Speaker 3: I do it, will and I do it a lot.
Speaker 1: One of us will send a text, maybe we don't
Speaker 1: get a response for that person for a little bit.
Speaker 1: Other individual puts out the eyes like, hey, we're kind
Speaker 1: of waiting on you, bub We're kind of just waiting
Speaker 1: on you right now.
Speaker 3: You're going to respond to this or no, it's light hearted.
Speaker 9: It's lighthearted and that are That is my sir talking, strong, relatable,
Speaker 9: Jesus plaus approved.
Speaker 1: Con I was hoping you can say horny again, solid,
Speaker 1: thank you diabolical?
Speaker 3: All right, oh man, all right. So the first coach's
Speaker 3: is it partook? Are taken? Are taken? And not like partook?
Speaker 3: Better than partaking. He's the first coach that partok in
Speaker 3: our tier talk.
Speaker 1: I don't like it, the one the sentence, though, I
Speaker 1: don't like the word by itself more than the sentence.
Speaker 5: My honorable mention is the cloud of smoke with the poop. Yeah,
Speaker 5: the poop. It's like, you can use it in recruiting, like, hey,
Speaker 5: this dude's fast. You can like, if you've been texting
Speaker 5: the recruit and you don't text you back, you're like
Speaker 5: you vanished on me. Like there's a lot of things. Yeah,
Speaker 5: there's a lot of things usual late at night for us, though,
Speaker 5: that's my honorable mention. Gosh, I'm so scared what to
Speaker 5: say right now.
Speaker 3: Hey, if you don't Hey, if you don't like it,
Speaker 3: we can always I love it. I love it, I
Speaker 3: love it, love love.
Speaker 5: But I'm afraid there's gonna be like a like there's
Speaker 5: someone on Twitter is gonna translate what I really mean
Speaker 5: when I say why I use each one you're out there.
Speaker 8: Number three for me is the eyes. The eyes is elite.
Speaker 3: It's you guys. You guys covered it so well, so
Speaker 3: thank you for that.
Speaker 5: Number two is the absolute because I didn't even know
Speaker 5: what it meant when I first when jac Horn said
Speaker 5: it to me, one time, and I was like, what's
Speaker 5: that mean?
Speaker 3: I think we'll look it up, like why is it
Speaker 3: just half his face?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the most that's the biggest part about it,
Speaker 1: is like why is he hiding?
Speaker 5: Also, and so I'm going last as hard. You guys
Speaker 5: have taken all the good ones. My last one, and
Speaker 5: I use it a lot. Is is just the brain explosion,
Speaker 5: you know, just half the face and the brain coming out.
Speaker 3: Like, man, you blew my mind, Like, dude, that is
Speaker 3: a dad emoji, right. I love thee I love that
Speaker 3: you said that you pulled that one up.
Speaker 1: I don't think i've seen it that one. Oh your
Speaker 1: mind's blown.
Speaker 3: My mind's blown.
Speaker 8: Like oh yeah like that that that has so many
Speaker 8: different meanings.
Speaker 3: That's my deal. That's your deal. Oh oh you mind blown?
Speaker 3: I'm blown?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. One word.
Speaker 3: I'm not ready me either, Boss strong boomer. That solid good.
Speaker 3: He's getting initiated legend. This is this is hyphenated king ship.
Speaker 1: Okay, Mitch al right, Mitch husked, Dad, Hey, that was
Speaker 1: you did a really good job. You did that was outstanding.
Speaker 3: Hard to go last, I'm hard to go last.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I feel like we probably should let people
Speaker 1: go second after they see how it's done, like one
Speaker 1: of us goes first.
Speaker 3: But I thought I thought that was that was a
Speaker 3: good job. I love watching the conviction of him talking
Speaker 3: to this about the mind blowing emoji. Yeah, the cloud
Speaker 3: cloud of smoke too. Yeah. He was looking at me
Speaker 3: telling you, go, uh, is your son gonna watch this?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah see a busting fan. Oh yeah, oh
Speaker 3: yeah right, that's the right answer. Out of respect that there.
Speaker 3: I told him. I told him I was going to
Speaker 3: be on here today. So he's pretty fired up. So
Speaker 3: that's awesome. Yeah, it'll come out next week. It's a
Speaker 3: good move. I it's a good move.
Speaker 8: But coming on here, Yeah, why not?
Speaker 3: Hear?
Speaker 2: Of course it is because we're not gonna let other
Speaker 2: coaches do if we're gonna you know, Michigan, I mean
Speaker 2: we could let other coaches come on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll probably, I mean probably any coach that once
Speaker 3: we'll publicly. Yeah, we have anything else. The boys in
Speaker 3: the back. I've got one question, jack you can always
Speaker 3: count on Jackie Boy.
Speaker 7: In twenty twenty six, Nebraska scheduled a non conference game
Speaker 7: that will be taking place in Lincoln, and it's against
Speaker 7: the Tennessee volunteers.
Speaker 8: I would just like to know what your game plan
Speaker 8: is so we can be ready in.
Speaker 3: Three years repeat the Orange Bowl.
Speaker 7: But realistically, i'm because we'll obviously big husk here.
Speaker 3: I went to Tennessee.
Speaker 7: I'm a big balls fan, and I'm really excited for
Speaker 7: that game, even though it's three years away, because we
Speaker 7: don't get to have the same competitive nature that Will
Speaker 7: and Taylor do with Nebraska Michigan or how me and
Speaker 7: Garrett do is Alabama and Tennessee. So I'm excited to
Speaker 7: see some big ten SEC matchups. I guess, like a
Speaker 7: realistic question is with you being new there and Josh
Speaker 7: Hypel just coming in within the last two years, you
Speaker 7: do you think you're gonna be on the same page.
Speaker 7: How Josh has taking Tennessee not in the same necessarily
Speaker 7: ballpark and like in terms of success.
Speaker 3: But where am I going with us? We're going eleven
Speaker 3: and one into the Orange Bowl. Brothers, what you're.
Speaker 7: Saying, yeah, how do you plan on getting your guys
Speaker 7: to buy in the way Hypel's gotten his guys to
Speaker 7: buy in the last good way?
Speaker 5: To round it out, Jack, first of all, say this,
Speaker 5: I thing, I think Josh has done a great job
Speaker 5: he really has, you know what, I I don't try
Speaker 5: to get guys to buy in.
Speaker 3: I just try to do what we do. And I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I try to do what we do and hope that
Speaker 5: they believe in it. But I do think that these
Speaker 5: the guys at Nebraska are hungry to win.
Speaker 3: They want to win.
Speaker 5: It's not one of those deals where it's like, who's
Speaker 5: this guy that hopefully you know, they believe what we're
Speaker 5: going to do. And I didn't come to lose.
Speaker 3: I'll say that much. I didn't not come to lose.
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty six, before you go a bit, twenty twenty
Speaker 3: six awesome.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we came to chew bubble gum
Speaker 2: and beat ass and we're all out of bubblegum. Brother,
Speaker 2: that's what's happening in September twelfth, the twenty six.
Speaker 1: The tweet you sent yesterday about hypel was that from Eckler.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Oh, I might assume to receive a
Speaker 1: similar text.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's out there in the stars, you know what I mean, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's in the cloud. I don't know if I was
Speaker 2: a vessel where I came up with that on my own.
Speaker 1: All right, bro, you know what I mean. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry you had to be a part of that. That
Speaker 1: was That was a I probably could have waited till
Speaker 1: after the podcast, Mitchie. What's your question, bubb.
Speaker 6: So you're from Stay College, Pah, What was it like
Speaker 6: playing under Joe Pah?
Speaker 3: It was awesome.
Speaker 5: Know one thing about coach Paterno was he uh he
Speaker 5: like he was you know, he was a little bit
Speaker 5: older when I got there. He had so much energy
Speaker 5: at practice, like you could not you could not not
Speaker 5: go hard. And he held the best players the most accountable.
Speaker 5: Like a lot of a lot of coaches like they'll
Speaker 5: they'll crush the walk ons, they let the best players
Speaker 5: do what they want. Not Joe Like he was gonna
Speaker 5: hold our best players the most accountable. So a guy
Speaker 5: like me that was just like I was like, if
Speaker 5: he's gonna do that to Kyle Brady or catch on
Speaker 5: a Carter, I better stay.
Speaker 3: And I think that that that meant a lot to me.
Speaker 8: I learned a lot from him. And he was a man.
Speaker 8: He was a He was a maniac in a good way.
Speaker 3: At practice.
Speaker 5: Man, he would run around and I mean when I
Speaker 5: was on the scout team, I was on the scout team,
Speaker 5: and I forget it was Curtisinis whoever like was injured,
Speaker 5: say the green jersey, which means don't touch him. He
Speaker 5: can practice, but don't touch him.
Speaker 3: So I run up.
Speaker 5: They throw on the ball, I run up, I break up.
Speaker 5: I jump out of the way, and he comes running
Speaker 5: over and he's like, what.
Speaker 2: Are you doing?
Speaker 7: Like, let's practice.
Speaker 3: She gotta hit him.
Speaker 5: And I didn't know what to do because I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna talk back to my coach. And I said, coach,
Speaker 5: he has a green jersey on. Coach lost it. He's like,
Speaker 5: what do you mean the green jersey. He's like, I
Speaker 5: don't care if you heard you gotta be a high practice.
Speaker 5: And he also he walks away like eight feet. He
Speaker 5: turns around, he goes, he goes, oh he had the
Speaker 5: green jersey on. Good job, good job.
Speaker 1: It was me.
Speaker 3: Oh, he I got you. So he was awesome.
Speaker 5: I love the man and like he he like, you know,
Speaker 5: he we won, but we won. All of our guys
Speaker 5: got degrees and got educations and went on ahead good lives.
Speaker 3: So it was pretty cool.
Speaker 10: Gee, I don't really have a question, but from our
Speaker 10: previous experiences in Lincoln, it's always been a good time.
Speaker 10: And I think, like I can agree with what Taylor
Speaker 10: is saying, like you got a good energy, Like I'm
Speaker 10: fired up to come.
Speaker 1: To Lincoln this Yeah, that's gonna be a fun spring
Speaker 1: football tour this year.
Speaker 3: Like it's gonna be rocking. It already is rocking. But like, yeah, fan,
Speaker 3: for sure, we'll be there. We will absolutely be there.
Speaker 3: You'll be on, You'll be on again, except we'll be
Speaker 3: in your house. Let's do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be all I already told my onus. He's
Speaker 2: a Husker now he's an honorable Husker.
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. Oh and you got
Speaker 3: to coach a mirror too, Oh yeah, a mirror. How
Speaker 3: much of a stud is he?
Speaker 1: A mirror? A mirror?
Speaker 5: So we did those Thursday night dinners. So Mirror came
Speaker 5: over with the running backs and next week I had
Speaker 5: the receivers over and.
Speaker 3: Came over again.
Speaker 5: He's like, just pet the dog and hang out like
Speaker 5: I love when he when he left, he gave me
Speaker 5: a book and just his kind of guy. He is right, thoughtfully,
Speaker 5: just gave me a book that he thought I would like.
Speaker 5: I just I mean, he's a true pro. And when
Speaker 5: I got this job.
Speaker 3: I called him.
Speaker 5: I was like, hey, right before I took the job,
Speaker 5: I was like, hey, gonna head you have some questions
Speaker 5: here in a day or two. And then I took
Speaker 5: the job. And he's been unbelievable.
Speaker 2: He's the best man. He's a snud, he's a big study. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think I have anything else to you, No,
Speaker 2: I I am going to think greatly appreciate you coming
Speaker 2: on this podcast. I know you're super busy, so it
Speaker 2: was awesome to have you on. This was like legit awesome,
Speaker 2: thank you you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah when I when you shot the text, I
Speaker 3: was fired up.
Speaker 2: Hit the boys right away. But yeah, this has been incredible.
Speaker 2: This has been incredible. I'm trying to like, because you
Speaker 2: know your boys and your boys and some sage too,
Speaker 2: your boys in some player group chats of the Huskers.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think if there's anything that the boys
Speaker 2: will want me to ask, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I'm fired up that tea night's there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably heard me going some spiels in the
Speaker 2: locker room back in Washington about black shirts and what
Speaker 2: happened this.
Speaker 3: Week and that week. He better not a pot ROAs
Speaker 3: you better not be talking.
Speaker 2: To kids about losing weight now, because I remember your
Speaker 2: couple your last years in Washington talking about he wouldn't
Speaker 2: get on the scales, t about all his budgets changed.
Speaker 5: Is the best I was his position coaches when when
Speaker 5: I first went to Temple his sophomore I was the
Speaker 5: D line coach, and that whole first week I had him.
Speaker 5: He had done something wrong in school and I showed
Speaker 5: up whole first week every morning six am.
Speaker 3: Him and me like just that's how.
Speaker 5: Our relationship started. So now we're sitting there like in
Speaker 5: an academic talk talking to somebody, I'm like, who are
Speaker 5: you talking to? You know, he's he's he's a wonderful person,
Speaker 5: like and and uh, you know he played at two
Speaker 5: ninety five that year I made. I had to keep
Speaker 5: him onnder three hundred and he's not he didn't play
Speaker 5: it two ninety five in the week.
Speaker 3: Did not keep him. Yeah, under three hundred pounds. Washington
Speaker 3: was waging in Washington.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know, but we had to get him.
Speaker 2: I think we called a gap gas. But we had
Speaker 2: to gap him to the side of the tilt, like
Speaker 2: you know, the the YU pair. Yeah, we'd have to
Speaker 2: gap him to get going because you know you're you're
Speaker 2: anticipating stretch just to get him going so he wouldn't
Speaker 2: get cut off.
Speaker 3: Those are the best players to play games. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: he was a stud. I mean he made a lot
Speaker 3: of money, especially in Denver. He won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Like he was a STUS All State receiver. No ship,
Speaker 3: he was a receiver in high school.
Speaker 8: Grew into a tight end.
Speaker 3: Legit. But I was like, I was gonna bring that up.
Speaker 1: I was just bring that up for you.
Speaker 3: Oh it's so funny. But no ship. For real. He
Speaker 3: was a receiver turned tight end and when I got there,
Speaker 3: he was a d lineman and then he became pot roast.
Speaker 3: So yeah, man, he did become pot roast.
Speaker 2: He's in I think it was like Bridgestone tire commercially
Speaker 2: is that you said they'll break it?
Speaker 3: He has it on his phone. Other thinks about, oh
Speaker 3: you're talking about this, I haven't have it right here,
Speaker 3: go ahead.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask where were you at in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight?
Speaker 5: Two thousand eight, I would have been at Western Carolina
Speaker 5: University and no, no, no, no no, I was at
Speaker 5: Temple University as an assistant coach.
Speaker 1: Did you get offered by Temple m h. No, neither
Speaker 1: did die any recruit y'all.
Speaker 2: You know, I remember the Panthers offered to fly him
Speaker 2: in last year, year nine?
Speaker 3: Do you remember that? Yes? If if only I would
Speaker 3: have been there a little longer this year, we could
Speaker 3: have made something happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you think to bring Will confident again?
Speaker 1: You know what I I was.
Speaker 3: I was running for my life at that point. It
Speaker 3: was I was two guys ended up bringing in Ravens linebacker.
Speaker 3: He played at Ravens for a while.
Speaker 8: Josh Bines.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys ended up bringing him in.
Speaker 2: Uh because Perryman got traded?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I I do have a question. Chat was
Speaker 2: blowing up a little bit when they saw the wide
Speaker 2: receiver coach higher. How do you get a wide receiver
Speaker 2: coach being PC to sell the next guy who wants
Speaker 2: to be the next Julio Jones in a living room?
Speaker 2: Him be the coach, Him be the wide receiver coach
Speaker 2: in that room, correla room mainly of athletes being PC,
Speaker 2: staying PC. You're a wide receiver coach Higher, I'm assuming
Speaker 2: we're talking this coach is pale. He's yeah, he's he's
Speaker 2: a little pale. He's on the pale side, the small
Speaker 2: some people all are pale side.
Speaker 8: Some people like he's twenty three, twenty fourths. Some people
Speaker 8: say like why would you know?
Speaker 6: Young?
Speaker 5: Yes, young too, and like I I think, I think
Speaker 5: he's probably one of the best football minds I've ever
Speaker 5: been around. I think I'll be I'll struggle to keep
Speaker 5: him for three or four years. Like I he could
Speaker 5: have stayed in the NFL. It's just his loyalty to
Speaker 5: me that he would even leave the NFL. He he
Speaker 5: could have stayed for multiple piece. I think he's I
Speaker 5: think he's gonna be I think he's gonna be brilliant.
Speaker 5: And you know, for me, the program, will you know,
Speaker 5: I'll run the overall program, like you know, like there's
Speaker 5: the players are gonna be loved, but they're they're also
Speaker 5: gonna you know, we have standards. They're all everybody's gonna
Speaker 5: do it there you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one. There's
Speaker 5: gonna be ups and downs, and I'm low key about that.
Speaker 5: But we really want guys who want to be pros.
Speaker 5: We really want guys who want to be good players.
Speaker 5: And so to me, what I've learned over time is like,
Speaker 5: you know, sometimes people think I should go play for
Speaker 5: him because he played in the league this long.
Speaker 3: I actually go play for this.
Speaker 5: At the end of the day, the coach can help
Speaker 5: you be better, he can, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Like if if, like when I went to be the
Speaker 5: assistant online coach of the Giants.
Speaker 8: I'd never I'm not an old lineman.
Speaker 3: How could I help?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: I could.
Speaker 8: I could break down every move that Geno Atkins had done.
Speaker 5: I could go to these guys who are all pros
Speaker 5: and be like, hey, look I broke down two hundred snaps.
Speaker 3: Here's what I got.
Speaker 5: I found the way to create value for myself. So
Speaker 5: to me, the best coaches are the ones who can
Speaker 5: help you be a good player. And so when you've
Speaker 5: when you've coached in the NFL and now you come
Speaker 5: back to college, I just think he's I think he
Speaker 5: and some of the other guys that hired a young guys,
Speaker 5: I think they're brilliant. I just I got tired of
Speaker 5: hiring coaches with big names who didn't really want to
Speaker 5: put the work in. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 5: I got tired of hiring coaches who have like their
Speaker 5: own personal brand, Like I want guys who are in
Speaker 5: it for the players. As a player, I believe you
Speaker 5: can feel whether the coach is in it for you
Speaker 5: or not. And so if a player doesn't want that,
Speaker 5: then he's probably not right for us. But yeah, I
Speaker 5: had a lot of will say that to me, and
Speaker 5: I honestly, can I tell you how I really feel
Speaker 5: kind of like you guys brought me here because you're
Speaker 5: not winning, So why are you?
Speaker 8: Why are you worried about what I'm doing?
Speaker 5: Just let me do it, like like wait three years
Speaker 5: and then but sometimes you know there's so much interest
Speaker 5: you're gonna kind of be into it a lot, Like
Speaker 5: like I believe we're gonna win, and I believe we're
Speaker 5: gonna win doing it this way. You know, as I go,
Speaker 5: I'll adapt and learn. And I don't know Nebraska yet.
Speaker 5: But the smartest thing, hopefully that I can do is
Speaker 5: is put the right people in the building. And Garrett,
Speaker 5: I think is telling you I think he's gonna be
Speaker 5: a I think he's be a head coach today. And
Speaker 5: so like having Cooper my dB coach, I've I've had
Speaker 5: him with me forever. Some of the top coaches in football,
Speaker 5: like Fran Brown's a dB coach at George, like I
Speaker 5: gave him his first job. Elijah Robinson's a D line
Speaker 5: coach at A and M. He's making one point two
Speaker 5: million to be the D line coach. Everyone tries to
Speaker 5: hire him as their DC, like I hired him as
Speaker 5: from a player development guy. So I've always hired young
Speaker 5: people that I think that guy is gonna be special.
Speaker 5: And I watched them take off, and I think that's.
Speaker 3: What Gary will do. Mhmm. Coach, I appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you's been fucking awesome for retanding.
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Speaker 2: Nebraska dropped the B dropped the GBR. Also the big
Speaker 2: cop energy in the chat, all that stuff. Coach Rule,
Speaker 2: You've been phenomenal, phenomenal. Thank you, Big hugs, tiny kisses,