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Speaker 1: Hike and everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The I'm feeling them good Vibes. Addition,

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Speaker 1: as the new look Bengals get ready for the start

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Speaker 1: of training camp coming up, you'll hear from three people. First,

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Speaker 1: head coach Zach Taylor as he discusses the challenge of

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Speaker 1: getting Joe Burrow ready to take over at quarterback with

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Speaker 1: no OTA's mini camps or preseason games. Second, I'll talk

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Speaker 1: to Sam Hubbard about trying to play football during a pandemic.

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Speaker 1: And Third, it's one of the best receivers in Bengals history.

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Speaker 1: T J. Hushman Zada as he discusses John Ross T.

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Speaker 1: Higgins AJ Green in his unique connection to Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: during Joe's time at LSU. The Bengals Booth Podcast is

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Speaker 1: It's the greatest thing since the State of Maine. I

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Speaker 1: recently went on a family vacation to a Kadia National

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Speaker 1: kayakt watched the sunrise on the top of Cadillac Mountain,

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Speaker 1: the best sunrise I've ever seen, and eight lots of lobster.

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Speaker 1: So if you are yearning to spend some time in

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Speaker 1: reason why most of the license plates in that state

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Speaker 1: say Vacation Land. Now, let's get to football. I'm recording

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Speaker 1: this on Wednesday, the day after Bengals veterans reported to

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Speaker 1: there will be several days of COVID nineteen testing before

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Speaker 1: the players are actually doing anything related to football. Zach

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Speaker 1: Taylor did a fifteen minute zoom call with reporters on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: but would not say if anybody was considering opting out

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Speaker 1: of playing this year. You know, we'll keep that to

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Speaker 1: ourselves right now. If players feel that way. On our

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Speaker 1: team or any other team. I'm sure they'll make it public,

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Speaker 1: we'll support those decisions. There's a lot of reasons for him,

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Speaker 1: any comment on it. Zach was also asked about the

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Speaker 1: the virus. It's something you have to consider and talk through,

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Speaker 1: Zach answered several questions about Joe Burrow, ranging from the

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Speaker 1: Were you able to do that at all over zoom calls?

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Speaker 1: He's a great leader. He's a very competitive individual. I've

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Speaker 1: he's just a true pro. He goes about a business

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Speaker 1: the Bengals defensive line is the tenth best in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: How does DJ Reader impact the entire group? And do

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Joe Burrow. You were one of the

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Speaker 1: so if he can maintain his level of confidence when

429
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Speaker 1: things are always great, the fingers are going to have

430
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: a problem on their hands with Aja Tyler boy drafting

431
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: Tea and Ross because he told me so many balls

432
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: to go around. But Ross is the only guy on

433
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: that team that can do what he does and that

434
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: will always separate them. You played with a chip on

435
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 1: your shoulder going back to the draft, and you always

436
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: thought you were one of the best players in the

437
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: league and played like it. How do you put that

438
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: attitude into John Ross? It's just talking for him and

439
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 1: just letting him. I tell him all the timeline, bros.

440
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: You were drafted in the top ten for a reason

441
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: and share yourself that way. Don't worry. And I get

442
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: it though it's it's me and him has had long

443
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: discussions about I get it. If you go through go

444
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: back to his rookie year. I don't know if you

445
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: recall this, but I recall it. The first time he

446
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 1: cuts the ball in the NFL game. Do you know

447
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: what happened? He fumbled? He fumbled, and they didn't play

448
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: him the rest of the year. They didn't play him

449
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: the rest of the year. Now, you tell me any

450
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: human being, what would that do for your confidence? Kill it?

451
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: And so it killed his confidence because he's sent any

452
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: video of practice and I didn't even know him that

453
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: well at that time. I hadn't even started working with him.

454
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: And the video that he's sending me a practice, nobody

455
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: can cover him. And so you're playing well in practice,

456
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: but they're not giving you an opportunity who possibly played

457
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: well or not play well in the game. And so

458
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: I believe it affected him mentally and it killed his confidence.

459
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: And so working with me and just yeah we work

460
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: physical obviously a lot, but it's really the mental part

461
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: of don't let what happened a few years ago message

462
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 1: your confidence. And I believe Zach Taylor tried to give

463
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: him that confidence back Earl. I mean, if Ross doesn't

464
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: get hurt early last year, who knows what type of

465
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: season he has because he came out gun blazing. He

466
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: came out to shoot and did very well early. And

467
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: so I try to give you my confidence in and

468
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: just make everybody has that confidence. You just gotta keep

469
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: it in you. I was angry and that way. I

470
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: felt like I was overlooked, and I played that way

471
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: and I practiced that way every day. He's not me

472
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: and I'm not him, but hopefully some of that rubs

473
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 1: off on him. So TJ. Leading up to this year's draft,

474
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: you did work with T Higgins, and the Bengals called

475
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: you to pick your brain about him before taking him

476
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: with the first pick of the second round. Describe T

477
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: to the good player man. He's he kind of reminds

478
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: me of AJ. Tall, big dude, can really run routes

479
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: and think the tips, gets in and out of breaks

480
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 1: like a little guy, big catch radius if and that's

481
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: the things they have. Weapon like T is if he

482
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 1: reaches his potential and he matches out, he has the

483
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: potential to be one of the better receivers in the

484
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Speaker 1: game of football. If he doesn't leave any meat on

485
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: the ball, so to speak. He just has to reach

486
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: his potential. And the good thing is he can learn

487
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: of somebody like AJ. He's a little taller than AJ.

488
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: But AJ always gets overlooked when you say who's the

489
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: best receivers in the league because he's been hurt the

490
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: last couple of years. But if he if he's healthy, Um,

491
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be good for Tea because he's gonna be

492
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: able to learn from one of the better receivers in

493
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: the game. Did you have T ranked as the second

494
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: best receiver in this class? I thought T was probably

495
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: top three receivers. I thought Jerry Judy was the best receiver.

496
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: And then you can kind of you can kind of

497
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: pick and choose. Did you like the speed of Rugs?

498
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: Did you like the toughness and the run after the

499
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: catch and seeding lamb? Did you like everything that justin Jefferson? Did?

500
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: I think I used prom Arizona stage. Is gonna be

501
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: a really really good player, but all those guys, I

502
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: thought he was the first round pick, to be honest

503
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: with you, but again you it's gonna in Cincinnati's gonna

504
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: be tough because even if T is it's ready to play.

505
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: AJ is gonna be the best receiver run team that

506
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: he's healthy. Oh, Tyler Boyd can play too, and so

507
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: they pick that guy that can play. And if Ross

508
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: stays healthy, Oh, he does something on the team that

509
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: nobody else can do. He stretches the field with great

510
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: speed and great quickness, and so beingles have a problem

511
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: on her hand and take good problems. But if everybody's healthy,

512
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: h it's gonna be tougher team. Just because he's a

513
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: rookie and it's different, but again, it's a good problem

514
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: to have, is that Tyler will figure it out. I'm

515
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: glad you mentioned John Ross because he reminds me of you.

516
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: He doesn't get a ton of hype, but he's tough

517
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: as nails, great route runner, good feel for the passing game.

518
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: Do you see some of that when you watch him?

519
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: Do you mean Tyler Boid? Yeah, I'm sorry if I

520
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: said Ross, I mean Tyler Boyd yep. And Tyler Boyd

521
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: is he's not He's not gonna I mean a lot

522
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: of it too, though he would probably get a little

523
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: more credit if the Bengals start to have some success

524
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: because when you think the Bengals, honestly, you probably think

525
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: Geno Atkins, AJ Green, maybe Joe Nixon and so everybody

526
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: else tends to get overlooked if the team will start

527
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: to have it said, trying to PoID is good. He's

528
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: a good route runner, he gets in and out of breaks,

529
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: and that's why the Bengals have receiver. I mean, you

530
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: can just look across the league. If you say top

531
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: three receivers, if everybody plays up to their potential, the

532
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: Bengals easily. We have one of the better receiver cars

533
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: in the league. And if Joe can play well early,

534
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: it's going to be a surprise for people. But it

535
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: won't surprise me because he has guys around him like

536
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: he had at LSU. Joe does a good job of

537
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: giving his receivers a chance to win, and he's accurate

538
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: with the ball. And if he can do this in Cincinnati,

539
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: the Queen City gonna be rolling again on offense like

540
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: we had when we were playing. Would love it to

541
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: be two thousand and five evolved over again. Aj Green

542
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: turns thirty two on the last day of the month.

543
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: How much great football does he have left in him?

544
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: And age? Like people, the way the game of football

545
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: is now like honestly, aj can play if he stays healthy,

546
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: he can play at a high level for four to

547
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: five more years. High level, high level, and that the

548
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: game of football is different like others. I'm forty two,

549
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: I have weighed the same for twenty years. I still

550
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: in shape, I still have ASPS. I only work out

551
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: a couple of times a week, the game of football

552
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: is different. If guys are standing in shape. AJ in essence,

553
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: his body should be healthy if gets healthy, if that

554
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: makes any sense, because he's been hurt for the last

555
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: couple of years and so AJ phenomenal man. I tell

556
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,719
Speaker 1: people all the time, if you want to learn how

557
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: to get off of press coverage, even if the release

558
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: isn't a great release, it will be a great release

559
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: by watching like AJ is just so violent at the

560
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage that even if it's not good, it's

561
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: gonna work because he believes in it. And yeah, I'm

562
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: looking forward to AJ reminded people that he's AJ Green.

563
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm looking I'm looking forward to that because he doesn't

564
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: talk a lot. He's not gonna hyping type himself up.

565
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: And I don't even know Aja that well, but I'll

566
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: hype him up. He I'm looking forward to him reminded

567
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: people how good he really is. Joe Burrow has never

568
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: thrown to these guys. No OTAs, no mini caps. It

569
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: looks like there will be no preseason games. Now, how

570
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: big of a problem is that it could be? It

571
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: could be a hinder if it could be uh, someone

572
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: of a problem. But you would think in practice, they're

573
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: gonn They're gonna get a ton of reps in practice

574
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: and train account and hopefully that's enough. It's gonna take

575
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: some time where guys like the ball um what Joe likes.

576
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 1: But this is the NFL. You know, we're workout. They

577
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: don't work at it every day, and so again, everybody's

578
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: in the same position for the most part. Tom Brady

579
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: Camphen they've been working out. Um a little different with

580
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: the Bingers. I don't believe Joe has throne with any

581
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: of them. Joe is thrown with Ross. I got them together,

582
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: but that was so long ago that you kind of

583
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: got to rediscover that cohesiveness they had. But it will

584
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: be different. I believe they'll they'll find a way to

585
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: uh figure it out. But yeah, it does put them

586
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: at somewhat of the disadvantage with no OTA and maybe

587
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: no preseason games. Who knows what happens. I have two

588
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: questions left for t J. Hushman's out A Number One,

589
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: when Steelers fans recognize you, do they give you crap

590
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: for shining your shoes with a terrible towel after winning

591
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. Uh yeah, still to this day. But it's

592
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: all it's all fun, it's all you know, it's all

593
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: it's not enough malicious. But yeah, may Man, what made

594
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: you do that? And I was like, I don't know,

595
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: it just kind of just happened. I didn't plan it,

596
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't premeditating. It just will spurred them all the

597
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: type of thing. But yeah, they'll still give me crap

598
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: about it, and ver remind me how they beat us

599
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: in the playoffs thanks to Kimo van Alhof and unfortunately.

600
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: All right, final question, do you remember the time that

601
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: you pranked me? No, what happened? This was great. So

602
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: March of two thousand and five, you're about to sign

603
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: your first big contract extension with the Bengals. I'm working

604
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: for Fox nineteen at the time. I think there was

605
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: a midnight deadline for you to make a decision. So

606
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm calling you and trying to get an update before

607
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: going on the air at on the ten o'clock news

608
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: And I get you just before going on and you say, man,

609
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: I've decided to leave. Had a great time in Cincinnati,

610
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: but I'm moving on. So I'm writing down on a

611
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: notepad and I'm bummed out because you know you were

612
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: You're just coming into your own. I was really excited

613
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: about it, and then just about the moment I was

614
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: going to hang up, you said, man, I'm playing with you.

615
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 1: I'm I'm resigning with the Bengals. So the good news

616
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: is I had a scoop for the top of the

617
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: ten o'clock news. The bad news is you almost broke

618
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,479
Speaker 1: my heart. Yeah that probably that does sound like someone

619
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: would do it. I'll do that. I'll do that often

620
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: messing around. Yea would Yeah, I don't recall that, but

621
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: that is something that is not that you said it

622
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: to me. I'm like, yeah, that is something that I

623
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: would do. I'd actually do that often still to this day. Yeah,

624
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: matter with it. That's what somebody and they really think that.

625
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: Oh wow, and then I gotta tell them like, no, no,

626
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. You

627
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: had me. But the good news is, you know, before

628
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: I went out in the air, you set me straight.

629
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: So it turned out fine. I just had about a

630
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: one minute stretch of being heartbroken. Oh wow. Yeah, it's

631
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: a good thing that h I didn't let it go

632
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: a little longer. You got off the phone and I'm like, oh,

633
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: let me let me know. Plat it around yeah, especially

634
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: because that was pretext days, so you would not have

635
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: been able to fire me off a quick text to

636
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: send me straight in change right, pretext, pre social media crazy. Hey,

637
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you doing this. I always love getting

638
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: your insight. I love the work you're doing for FS one,

639
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: and I hope to see you Paul Brown steady when

640
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: that's allowed again. I won't be there, and I appreciate it.

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